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Yooo thats cool
@vivid quest i will start my learning French journey by singing French songs correctly
Hm i bet u can think of a better one
The thing is that it'll probably work

It will
I will speak french better than you
😎
lmao
these patterns are pretty algorithmic
once u figure out how to make the 3 version u figure out it all
Woah
without inner circle:
The construction lines are actually pretty too
ofc this is with all the uglier lines erased
lol heres a trippy pattern
this only requires 6 circles tho
lmao yea kinda
ooh yea
That is nuts
ok but what about 17-gons 
No. This is. 🥜 🌰
peanuts are not botanical nuts
I am
You're a botanical nut...
I'm incredibly disappointed in you
that's bollocks
There's no such thing as nuts. Everything's either a seed, a fruit, a legume, or a testicle.
Mangekyo Sharingan looking ass
isn't this from some mathematical theorem
And what is that I'm a bit new
smth from naruto
Oh I don't watch those things so nevermind
i dont either i just kinda know about em
100+7??
Universe say to me, 42
Shiru days earlier: lol hyperbolic sucks
Also Shiru:
Don't you just love hyperbolic geometry
I have nothing against hyperbolic geometry simply because i don't know shit 
Bedt way of not hating something
Ignorance
Controversial claim
Ignorance = Not Hating would be a very useful theorem if true
idt hyperbolic geometry is cooler than any other kind of geometry
You should
The name is cooler
what are the benefits
uhuh.
People freak out at the notion
cant say im impressed
Also, as I understand you can embed spherical and euclidean geometries inside
well i expect it to have smth special than just being a subset of riemannian
Those lines are pretty special my guy
hyperbolic is the best geometry I could ask for
Also I want to see hyperbolic geometry applied more to video games and VR
i get that its not flat and not spherical
I didn't know that, based
Hyperbolic Geometry is involved in Psychedelic Geometry
parallel lines diverging is cool i guess
meh
Modular forms is scratching the surface of how cool hyperbolic is
tsk tsk
ah yes, crankery
You replied that to probably the least cranky of the 3 articles imo
Lmfao
This is one of the few pieces I’ve seen that attempts to map actual phenomenal geometry using mathematically coherent models, and does so without retreating into mysticism “woo woo” or metaphor.
I approach consciousness from a synthesis of IIT, field models, and Wheeler’s “It from Bit”—seeing brains as boundary conditions rather than generators.
Do you think the hyperbolic curvature seen in high dose DMT states reflects a deeper structure of the consciousness field itself?
Or is it an artifact of how neural networks warp under altered symmetry thresholds something like a lossy compression of otherwise inaccessible topologies?
I’m trying to understand whether these states are just “hallucinated math” or genuine partial decodings of a deeper substrate. Your work seems to flirt with both interpretations.
Thanks for sharing
@neat lintel welcome to the mathcord!
Not my work but sure you're welcome
How’d you come across this ? It’s more than what 99%
Of all
Research labs are doing
and yet it is clearly crankery !!
Not really
The other 2 harping on about planck lengths and spacetimes are pretty wild
But that one about wallpaper groups and the symmetries experienced under psychedelia is rather grounded from what I can tell
kaleidoscopic experiences is one thing, while
Even the most contorted embeddings of the hyperbolic surfaces you experience cannot fit any longer in your normal experience of space on doses above 20 mg, so your mind has no other choice but to change the curvature of the 3D space around you! Thus when you go from “very high on DMT” to “super high on DMT” it feels like you are traveling to an entirely new dimension, where the objects you experience do not fit any longer into the normal world of human experience. They exist in H3 (hyperbolic 3D space). And this is in part why it is so extremely difficult to convey the subjective quality of these experiences. One needs to invoke mathematical notions that are unfamiliar to most people; and even then, when they do understand the math, the raw feeling of changing the damn geometry of your experience is still a lot weirder than you could ever anticipate.
is something else entirely
they straight up just claim that whatever they see exists in hyperbolic 3-space…
which seems wholly unfounded
simply crankery
Not really a problem
It's founded on conscious experience
You do not experience the image received by your retinas, you receive those images and use them in combination with the faculties of your brain and previous knowledge in order to create an actual 3D scene which is experienced
Optical illusions hint at this, and psychedelic experiences (i.e. the brain not functioning properly) make it more apparent that this is indeed how the brain functions and creates your visual experience
Therefore, the proposition is that the generated visual experience, whatever it is physically is irrelevant, is endowed with a hyperbolic 3-manifold structure
What
So the claim if you look, is actually that under intense experiences you can see symmetries and wallpaper groups which can only exist in hyperbolic space
And that therefore visual experience under intense psychedelic influence is a hyperbolic 3-manifold
These are concrete and testable claims imo, hardly crankery just unverified and very off the hinge
To be expected given the obstacles to doing serious psychedelic research
Legal, medical, technical, psychological, formal, and philosophical issues abound
how the hell did nixos get an extra letter?!
By being better than us
presumably two of those are two-letter ligatures which count as a single symbol

I’m so sad cuz every time I settle down w my computer something makes me feel like switching
I saw some really cool Nixos stuff and now I wanna try out nixos
But I also kinda wanna see what openBSD is like
Like completely from scratch sounds cool
:3
yay
:333333333333333
Currently sitting on the sine euler product
very important product
Is it?
yes
Where is it used?
number theory?
:3333
even in complex anal I do remember using it
but the stuff was fairly number theoretic

Intewesting
I am excited what comes next tbh. Like products were a fun chapter and all. But I want to see something truly magnificient

Enough of me though. What are you up to?
Last time we talked you got some sort of breakthrough I believe
hmm
I computed a lot of summations/products like the ones I showed you last time
found out I can just use q analogs to simplify the expressions
told advisor chan about it and she was happy with it
:3
but goddammit combinatorics is really hard

she proved something nicer tho
LMFAO
she showed you can commute stuff iff you satisfy something
but that something is not everything
but it's still something nice
one sec lemme show u
The proof is very easy I could've come up with it
idk why I didnt think of it lmao

so you see how T chi = chi T?
Mhm
yeah this is incredibly nice
it cancels with a lot of things in the messed up equation
but this only happens when alpha_j is orthogonal to every root in Delta^+_I

The what
Fuck combo
@solid yarrow
my advisor is like: wait here is some references
sends 10 pdfs
another email: i forgot some
sends 20 more

You know I think it probably would, but I decided after glancing that I no longer truly desire to know
Hello 
Hello
@neat lintel @dark patio welcome to the mathcord c:
Thanks
Thanks 🫡
what the hell is c:
c:
c:

Me daily
Do you want to do math again
sure
Then I guess you could pick up where u stopped
so
for example if the most recent level of math i did was algebra 1
i would resume at algebra 1?
after 5 years
and not go to a lower level math like pre-algebra?
like a 5 year gap is that what ur saying
Its is true what the bad languages says? That "when talking about ethics and morals, a phd in math that is tired of academia who is good goes to tech, and a phd in math that is tired of academia who is bad goes to finance"?
sure
finance math seems easy
just % interest compound basic addititon subtraction
that seems about it when it ocmes to finance
Good goes on and becomes a farmer. False news
yeah i agree that is outdated and tech people are bad too
Tech people are worse
but the good take is to not pursue status, money and other stupid but live simple?
i need to do what most people think is very cool cuz i'm a nerd that is cool
Sure buddy
The calc 2 flow is basically
- Integration: parts, partial fractions, trigonometric integrals, indefinite integrals (Riemann sums, antiderivatives/FTC, u-sub are usually in Calc 1)*
- Differential equations: basic idea, Euler step method, separable equations, integrating factor for first order linear stuff, possibly applications
- Sequences/series: convergence of sequences and series, series tests (divergence, integral, p-test, comparison, limit comparison, etc), power series, radius of convergence, Taylor series
- Possibly basics of vectors in 2D and 3D to pregame Calc 3
*Is the whole surface of revolution bullshit usually in Calc 1 or 2? I forget...
Anyway the thing people struggle with in Calc 2 is because:
- Integration doesn't have a clear flowchart. Differentiation you can always bash chain/product/etc rules until you win. With integration, you're not sure whether to start with a u-sub, a trig identity, parts... Like you just have to guess or intuit
- Also there is a lot of complexity/stuff to keep up with. Maybe you have an improper integral, so you have to take limits. Now there's a u-sub to do, make sure to change the bounds! Hmmm the result is weird... Ah wait it's because of a trig identity!!!
- Also it's an algebra and trigonometry pressure test
- Also sequences/series just completely break people's brains. So many people forget that there's a difference between a_n converging and sum a_n. Others think oh a_n -> 0 means sum a_n converges
@magic chasm
Clac 3 is about ricci calculus fr
i feel like there is some kind of irony in this
trig and trigs identitys are like a kind of its own algebra? Like they are periodic functions so that is why is special to study the,?
thats is a pretty solid response
Trig functions being periodic is a notable fact but there are also just a bunch of identities to remember about them
sin^2(x) + cos^2(x) = 1, variants like sec^2(x) = tan^2(x) + 1, all the double angle stuff
what about the inverse functions of such function like arctgx?
i think that i need to train more trig
somehow i do good without having proper intuition in thiis?
I mean, if it works it works, but it def won't hurt to have your trig down cold when in calculus
Honestly for a good block of the year in calculus, the main difficulty is with algebra/trigonometry
^
any unknown or slightly obscure tips for AMC10? prefarbly the A as it tends to be harder
Skip 10 and do 12
what
Which websites should I use
Math overflow
Mathematics Stack exchange
Quora
Or what
As a reply, math is a very extensive subject with a lot of branches, and so are the websites about them. Math overflow is geared toward a more professional and advanced type of mathematiccresearch, while MSE is geared to a broader math audience with 'simpler' questions, since math overflow was created because there is statistically a lower number of professional mathematicians with professional questions and professional answers. Quora can also be a nice place though it's a bit less decentralized in my opinion, which means you can ask questions that might take you 5 times to read and also simpleton questions from people who are too tired or busy to solve them. I also recommend the discussions on Khan academy, they relate to the videos being watched.
probably none of them unless you're advanced beyond an introductory text in the area in question.
khan academy is good, textbooks are good, MIT's open courseware is good.
Sadly some courses on MIT open courseware do not have lecture videos though
honestly just googling some university who's program you like and a class name often provides publicly accessible, full blown study guides, example tests and example test keys.
yeah some do not. Some do.
So what should I use to ask advanced questions
if it's advanced but known stuff, math stackexchange
if it's research level, mathoverflow
don't use quora
nothing wrong with it i just dont like quora
what's the guarantee that a prof teaches well or not
who can help me with cryptography?
A cryptographer
Alice
@hot hound welcome to the mathcord!
doesn't seem possible
also isn't the s-box 1D anyway
0 -> something
1 -> something
...
255 -> something
yeah u are right anyways any ideas expanding the demension?
wdym
dimension
block ciphers are always 1D
AES is represented as 2D because it looks cool but it's actually 1D
this is equivalent to making it larger
don't make it too large or it's weak
the inputs, i mean
how about insert any auto generated key series by some simple cipher like sponge?
by auto generated key you mean OFB?
or, do you mean key-dependant S-boxes
ok
Anyone interested in knowing the meaning of trigonometric derivatives?
im interested in knowing the meaning of motives
Awesome! I am preparing a desmos presentation. Will share with you soon
but u said trigonometric derivatives

Yup...it is explained with the help of the unit circle
i was referring to this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Motive_(algebraic_geometry)
In algebraic geometry, motives (or sometimes motifs, following French usage) is a theory proposed by Alexander Grothendieck in the 1960s to unify the vast array of similarly behaved cohomology theories such as singular cohomology, de Rham cohomology, etale cohomology, and crystalline cohomology. Philosophically, a "motif" is the "cohomology esse...
i do recall u need a proof for this?
,, \frac{d (\sin \theta)}{d x} = \cos \theta
アキラ (>⩊<)
if ur referring to this^
It is a sort of proof....It uses the premise that you prove it in a way you define it....Trigonometry is defined with the help of unit circle so the derivatives must also be proved with the same definition.
ok lets hear about it 🙂
Yup.. and the rest of the trigonometric derivatives as well
This exact thing...But a little more intuitively...I guess 😊
fair
the proof comes from my calc teacher in hs anyway
oh and yes I used delta a lot instead of d 
bc i thought it'd make it look cool
@acoustic mason welcome to the mathcord!
Hey Thanks @fresh comet
Someone had already made a good video on the derivative of sin(x)...So I took the liberty of sharing that.
nice
The rest of the trigonometric derivatives can be explained with a similar approach.
great video
I was taught it that way 😔
Math is good
Yup!...I think it is lot more effective to teach using visualizations,
in 3D we have length, width and height. What do we have in 4D?
real
physics?
I agree...Higher dimesional visualizations are not possible...But we can use some tricks to visualize(Understand the logic) them as well.
Geo>algebra>combi=nt
Yea
Even in physics...I believe the mathematical part can be explained more intuitively.
The meaning of the equations in terms of the physical phenomen is loosely explained.
fair
swap algebra and geo
I do combi and nt most of the time
☄️
When spring comesssss
Wow you stink
I really like geometric stuff in higher math but for high school competitions, geometry feels tedious.
Yeah high school math competitions usually have problems which fall under algebra, combinatorics, number theory, or geometry. Thats what themathguy was talking about when he was referring to these 4 branches.
My bad then
You're good 👍
Oh
All suck lmao
deltoid do you know Crazy Hot
No
its a funny song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7x32wX-BvQ
the lyrics are so inaudible you cant tell what language it is
Title: Crazy Hot
Circle: NJK Record
Artist: DJ Command
Vocals: 坂上なち
Album: TOHO EURO FLASH Vol.2
Original: メイガスナイト (Magus Night), 魔女達の舞踏会 ~ Magus (The Witches' Ball ~ Magus)
spoiler: ||its all english||
is it actually easier to qualify for AIME tho
Yes
I love some engrish
@grand karma @peak zephyr welcome to the mathcord 
Life is hell
If real estate exists does that imply the existence of fake estate
speculatory value of something that isn't there yet 
Perpendicularity
If a bisector doesn’t have perpendicularity then is it relative to the photosynthetic organelle of the derivative
@barren anchor and why is that
@tidal knot so is true
If d is an infitesimal change in x and y then why isn’t it x + d and y+ d instead of dy dx
Is Euler dumb?
Durrivatives
And if d is on the bottom and the top why doesn’t it cancel out? Did he forget?
@barren anchor someone must
As I sit and watch my father with advanced alcoholism, covered in his own shit and piss, unable to stand or make words
Kahani Ghar Ghar ki
I understand it fully
guys what is wrong with people like why they develop so whack
do you want money
Hii there
Lol
Okay bye @rigid obsidian
so many perpendiculwrities
So many bisectors to calculate
sometimes I lose track
constructions?
Hmm
lmao
just switch back and forth and post irrelevantly
reading up my new book I found for lin alg wbu
congrats on installing arch btw
I have heard u need 2 days for this right
fair
I installed my distro using usb 🙂
ic
debian
uh what's difference lol
this is what I have tho #1213610885277421588 message
but now u do 🙂
does it matter to ya
take a guess
where someones from isnt the only thing that shows their personality
what group
what'd you do to get banned
good
night
roblox for 2h 
its okay people are allowed to have fun an take breakls frpo m working and studying and learning
its important to not overwork onesel
jsut dont be addicted to a game or something i guss
i love cats
do u have a cat?
true
I used to be an addict for gd but not anymore
whats gd
geometry dash
im good! doing some trigonometry derivates probs
what other cats are there
thats super fun
on rolox?
u are good too?
roblox*
oh addicitng
thnk! Ima learning calculus I
nop, afk
yayy thats amazing
great, I hope u get soon
wow i wouldnt have been surprised if theres a calc game on roblo
x
HAVES A TRIGONOMETRY RP
I always use tan
tg
I'd say 75% bc I'm grinding with project sekai more than gd now 🙂
trig roleplay?
yeahhhh
can u not
miku game?
ya
my limit is lvl 24 but I can clear lvl 26
omelet
idk, lol
<@&268886789983436800>
whats my d
..
...

Hi
Serious question would all of khan academy algebra 1 algebra 2 trig geometry precalculus help me preparation for a college level calculus 1 class I need a math refreshe
yes
what's math 124?
Math 124 is calculus 1 with analytical geometry
Is it easier if you read the syllabus, reference, recommended readings, and then follow khan trying to fill the gaps, but Calc1 is pretty universal, but keep in mind that it depends on what you are majoring most of the time, for example I major in computer science and my university has math students with a different approach to Calc
Well listen
I haven’t done math in 3 years
And the math I did in high school
Wasn’t good at all
Like I got a D in algebra 1 cause I didn’t do the homework I got like a b and a b- in precalc at the university of Washington
The first thing you need to ask yourself is if you're doing mathematics, a science derived from math directly, or engineering.
Then I got an A in geometry for one semester then like a b- for the other semester
Then I got an A in algebra 2 for both semesters
But listen
I did not care for math at all like I did not take any notes at all
Like do u see my concern
maybe try doing the homework this time
u just need to practice
But what you're preparing for right now? what is your career choice?
it is not the same math for different fields
I’m trying to prepare for math 124
Because it’s a required class for the major I want to apply for
So I’m asking
yeah but we can't know what is math 124
I told you what math 124 is
u do it when u get off from social media 🙂
I mean what is your career choice?
yeah but that doesn't exactly helps besides recommending one of two books
Ok
the approach of Calc varies
Can you just answer this question please
Will khan academy algebra 1 algebra 2 trigonometry geometry precalculus
I'm trying to help you don't have to be defensive
All of this from khan academy
Is it enough
To help me understand the prequisites for that class
I mean u can use other sources if khan academy isn't too much
I cannot answer that, is not enough if you're a math student, but it is enough if you are for engineering
like Paul's notes
I switched to cs from engineering and now I'm literally restarting my math skills from geometry
If you are studying math you may need books like Spivak's
if you're doing engineering it is enough with khan, and maybe a little bit of Stewart's Calc book
don't know if anything else, honestly I focus more on computer science and algebra so I don't have more recommendations than that
well
im doing biology
ok ill do it
idgaf how long its gnona take me
it will be done
if you're studying biology and that is the semester you have to prepare for then yeah
Check the pre-requisites for the calc playlist inside khan's platform, if you haven't touch math from past 3 years your might need some algebra refreshing
it doesn't
i don't like
integrating
random eqns
assigning x = asin theta
,tex\LaTeX
0_א
you should
future
future?
he makes gr8 songs gotta agree
but te new album
kinda dogshit
nono not future the human
would thinking about your future motivate you?
hmmmm
not rly-
cuz wht im doing rn
has no relation with wht i wanna do in my future
damn
anyone know how to donegative indices?
is that cs
electrical & computer engineering?
seems like it has a good future if u know what ur doing 🙂
me neither lol and I'm a math student 
mb im a math student precisely because I don't like those types of questions
then don't do it 
simple as dat
why would u motivate urself to do something that isn't important to u
I thought Emilia was studying computer science
lol
th comp sci has a special place in my heart, because that's what I fell in love with when I was a kiddo
math has replaced it ig 
not claiming to know a lot of math. I just like it more
Hi, I'm working on a project to visualize derivatives...Anyone interested to colaborate?
I was hooked by computers as a kid too but later on it all got replaced with maths
hello people
I thought u were American USian 
i think that theoretical computer science gets the best of the two worlds, really recommend it!
My friends tell me I sound American so that's okay
hell, I like the USian word so much 
sounds almost like Asian, but, Usian

Halloo
smh they call me usian the way I be aiming for u 😌
Imagine getting a U, you have to go down all the alphabet of grades, damn
10^(-7) points or something
Anyone interested in visual math?
Yo
Hi
math is so cool
guys is pre calc super hard
Pre calc is my favorite😊
is it correct to say z=re^(iarg) instead of re^(itheta)
because i heard ln(z)=ln(r)+iarg
also yes
thanks
Someone can explain me the mathematical "null" element that absorbs everything?
I'm interested and I haven't found too much information
its basically like zero
like multiplying by zero "absorbs" any number
and leaves you with zero at the end
Or, maybe, its a neutral element, also like zero, that adding zero leaves the thing unchanged
You would have to provide a little more context to say exactly which
Welcome to the server @raw rose
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/L8uX4uUZUoM?feature=share
Neat explanation to the "Squeeze Theorem"
electronics and communication engineering
yesss
😂 fair
well, i want a good college, and to get that, i need to crack this entrance exam, and in order to crack this entrance exam, i need to study
ohhhhhh
so we were talking HS kind of math there...
I thought u were forced to take a differential equations class or something 
our HS math is your engineering math 😂
we do have this
@neat lintel welcome to the mathcord c:
thx man 🙂
Hi there
hey
I forgot what I was going to say
wow
!da2a
No need to ask “Can I ask…?” or “Does anyone know about…?”—it’s faster for everyone if you just ask your question! See https://dontasktoask.com/
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Guys I have a theory.. will anyone check that out, please ignore some glitches, refrences and code are glitched. I'll give you here if u want...
I was wondering if there were any meteorologists here because I was looking for some advice on how I could get into that field. I've been looking and noticed that math is really important, so I'm already looking into that. The problem is in choosing what master's and/or PhD to pick in order to do Numerical Weather Prediction or the likes
I've been looking into climatology, earth sciences and applied maths programs
I'm currently a CS major
not a meteorologist but we have a big program here at NYU (computational atmospheric and oceanic sciences)
anything around climate modeling / oceanic modeling / atmospheric modeling will be what you're looking for
this can be placed in an applied math department or in an environmental sciences department
Applied math is the best bet imo
But also you should be clear about what you want to do
Being a professional meteorologist and being a model developer are very different
Most meteorologists interact very little with the underlying NWP and deal almost exclusively with model output
How do they usually work, then?
Grant Sanderson is the creator of the coolest math youtube channel "3blue1brown". In this interview, we chat about a bunch of different topics, such as feelings towards abstract math, and even hear Grant read a piece from his poem. Enjoy Grant's beautiful thoughts and exquisite English!
Grant's channel: https://www.youtube.com/3blue1brown
Grant...
They get post processed model data and get it into a form interpretable by the public
Ok so model development
Do your phd in applied math
What country are you in
Or where do you want to do your phd
I am in Mexico
I think this could be an option. I checked it out and it was really focused on the modelling part
I would rather do in any other place than Mexico, but I'm not totally against it. I'm not sure where the computational modelling part is big
Does it depend on University? Country? City...?
Any recommendations for whiteboard pens
I use BIC Markers, I beleive it's a french brand.
I’m presently occupied but in a few hours I’ll ping you with info about who is doing modeling work and where
I appreciate it. I'll probably be asleep in a few hours, tho
Also, where can I look such information? So I can also look such information by myself in the future
I've been using Helix for about a year but despite buying 30 pens ive ran out
Im not sure what TCS is but isnt it just math?
Like a branch of math
Because why would you call it "theoretical" if it aint math
GUYS SOMETHING INSANE HAPPENED
I had made a c++ program to simulate emergent sentience
I left it run overnight
in the self talk mode
where it was asked 110 predefined questions on loop
The memory files are insane
Long term memory exceeds 20kb, and short term 4kb(it erases every now and then when it becomes too big)
I cannot believe my computer with >8gb ram can simulate 20kb memory
WOA
I can't believe my computer with 8bg ram can't compute the intersection of kernels of certain linear combinations of 15th symmetric powers of certain 6x6 integer matricies
8 bibagytes
Wow 20kb is definitely something for a C++ script
@warm umbra core
I knew it!
Does anyone use strava
I do
Oester?
In no particular order:
- Pedro Peixoto at USP
- Christiane Jablonowski at University of Michigan
- Nicholas Kevlahan at McMaster
- Jorn Behrens at Hamburg
- Martin Schreiber at Grenoble-Alpes
- Navid Constantinou at Uni Melb
- Jemma Shipton at Exeter
- Collin Cotter at Imperial
- Jean-Pierre Croisille at Lorraine-Metz
These are the main university people who would advise a good climate/weather modeling phd. A lot of research is done at various modeling centers including: - National Center for Atmospheric Research in the US (Peter Lauritzen)
- Sandia National Lab in the US (Mark Taylor, Oksana Guba, Chris Eldred, Peter Bosler)
- Geophysical Fluid Dynamics Lab in the US (Robert Hallberg)
- UK Met Office (Thomas Bendall)
- European Center for Medium Range Weather Forecasts
- Deutscher Wetterdienst in Germany (Michael Baldauf)
- Meteo-France
- RIKEN in Japan
- Bureau of Meterology in Australia (Dave Lee)
- Environment Canada
I know this because I am currently doing a phd on model development. The main journals for the field are the Journal for Advances in Modeling Earth Systems and Geoscientific Model Development. Feel free to dm if you have more questions
Thank you very much for the list! I will save it for when I look into things
wait Peixoto is a real surname?
in the epilogue of the Handmaid's Tale, the conference host's surname is Pixieoto
wait, Pieixoto
She MISSPELLED a very popular name between Portuguese people and their descendants.
ah
cool theorem by another peixoto
In the theory of dynamical systems, Peixoto's theorem, proved by Maurício Peixoto, states that among all smooth flows on surfaces, i.e. compact two-dimensional manifolds, structurally stable systems may be characterized by the following properties:
The set of non-wandering points consists only of periodic orbits and fixed points.
The set of fi...
okay, like, i did an llm search and it gave me an alt right source so... 👀
instant anti abortion propoganda
for clarity, it referred to eviemag
and fox business
what's gpt5's bias? bc doinf that makes it look like a mass red pill machine.
i worry llms will get more conservative over time, given p2025s committment to shift our culture, hence our internet, hence llm training material.
https://futurism.com/facebook-beauty-targeted-ads and this is what i was looking for
which i dont like.
their entire job was to hook people in, addict them and build dependencies, and then slowly fill them with corporate propaganda
mhm. if the product is free then you are the product.
i feel like that takes on a new meaning in light of 2025's ai powered surveillance capitalism
i wanna understand that platitude more atp. and privacy.
Even worse if the product is not free you could still be the product
Addicting them they surely did, seeing how many people demand GPT 4o back because it was extremely agreeable and they used jt as therapist or boy-/girlfriend
I'm glad OpenAI fixed that with GPT 5. It doesn't tell me with every response anymore what an awesome genius I am
But the cranks need that to feel good about themselves
Also the main goal of the AI businesses is to make as much money as possible, they might change their culture a bit to make themselves agreeable to the current president but I doubt they actually care about thag
:3
Grok is the exception to that but that's because its completely led by a single person that's also a moron

the preview is not showing but i wanted to link the screenshot
With GPT plus you only had 10 usages per week with 4.5
So this implies that he spend 200 dollar per month for an artificial friend, bruh
@barren anchor it's def becoming my fav note system so far. it's so flexible and helps me stay so real with myself and my reflections at the end of the day.
plus when things dont go as planned i can see precisely why and what ended up happening instead, and like, what i ate for dinner or breakfast or bought from the store a week ago. or what im esp curious about lately and proof of my consistency. so having a log in hindsight ig is helping me understand myself and how to move forward. im excited about it. ^^

I mainly like planning my week with it
Seeing it filled up makes me feel productive LMAOO
,av @steel vessel

Why do u always look at my pfp fully
I don't like urs
,av @barren anchor
,av .l.una.
it's honestly specimen
best on this server by miles
i like both ^^
Snake o.o
Yeah
I'm glad that this is a math server
Is this from a cartoon

not always
You can trust Wolfram Alpha to give you a computationally correct solution but it solves the problem it thinks you gave it, which might not be the same problem you wanted it to solve.
You gotta be precise
So, for me personally (aka this is not necessarily something I'm throwing out as a generalizable position), I process my morality vaguely through some mix of what's out there
The categorical imperative convinces me most out of the (secular) moral frameworks I know of, but applying it feels quite tricky. That said, it does seem to give a clear answer here, since it makes no distinction between humans and non-human rational beings.
In practice, my moral intuition is... Hmmm... It's a bit of a mix here.
If I say "I won't do X because X is wrong", my intuition for what makes X wrong is probably gonna be either one of virtue or that the consequence is unacceptable, which now that I think about it mostly means that it causes a harm which someone has "the right" not to experience (moral rather than legal right, and as for where these rights come from... Kinda nebulous, probably a mix of my religion, instinct, societal influence...)
If I decide that, among acceptable decisions, X > Y, then virtue may factor in somewhat but it's probably with more of an eye toward consequences (though my weighing of outcomes is not just most benefit for the most people... It's a mix of general welfare, prioritizing those dear to me...
)
As for society, where ethical considerations are balanced with the interests of society, the answer is probably going to be that the aliens being rational gives them more "rights" than non-human animals on earth do, but humans will probably be loyal to humanity first.
@vivid quest
Yes its u 
are the python full course videos on YouTube any good?
kinda looking to "master" it

I've tried reading some books in the past, too
but I really like helpful guidance from a teacher 
the only CS teacher who knew python well enough to teach it left after my first semester
CS 50P is an intro python course with videos, exercises, discord
noone taught me anything in python
it's all on my own
u can look up some basics and syntax and then write / build something
holy shit, you gotta be on meth to follow #discussion

Can't relate?
uhhhh
Guess not 😔

how do you get roles in mathcord
by rolefarming
wut da hail
also known as "shitposting relentlessly"
that's all I've been doing the whole time
Why are you typing Japanese
普通だ
@sonic wind I dont wanna start an argument again but what I was trying to say yday was that to get the halting problem, O can't be opaque to the host machine (and that can always be enforced). The way I've always seen it presented, that detail is omitted (probably for convenience). If you keep the oracle opaque but enforce that O must believe its output, then you've lobotomized O. You have to let M see how O "thinks", otherwise it's not a computational issue but a communication issue, which is what I was trying to say with A. You probably think this is an inessential detail not worth thinking about and that's probably where we disagree. Do you see what I'm pointing to here and would you agree with this nuance on its own terms at least?
...not really
it's not a computational issue but a communication issue
that doesn't necessarily follow
what you get is that it's either a computational issue or a communication issue
Well sure, O could be dumb I guess
if you combine this with an argument by the Church-Turing thesis that communication issues cannot exist (i.e. that it is not possible that some program can compute the correct answer in the middle of its computation, but no program can output the correct answer), then you get that it must in fact be a computational issue
That's an interesting way to describe the Church-Turing thesis. What do you by that?
it's not a way to describe the Church-Turing thesis
it's a way to describe a consequence of the Church-Turing thesis
or not really directly a "consequence", more just like
most arguments that something is "computable" just describe a procedure in English, because once you have enough experience with computability you can just know that it's possible to convert it to a TM without actually going through all the work
How do I know
and once you have that intuitive level of understanding of computability, it's just obvious that the problem arises from the fact that the halting problem is genuinely uncomputable and not the fact that it's somehow difficult to take a boolean that exists within the execution of the program and make it the output of the program
if my japanese isn't too bad, that means something like "hi everyone are you good?"
Sure I mean this is what I meant that you probably just see it as inessential because it's always possible to enforce O to be transparent. But I think it's an interesting detail to consider
programs in e.g. Python don't have "communication issues" (you can just print the value whenever you want to), and TMs are equivalently powerful to programs in Python (Church-Turing thesis), therefore TMs don't have communication issues
Well I mean imagine you write a function that's like O in python, and you don't let the host function see what it does. If it only looks at O's output, then you can write O such that whatever it returns, it also computes the actual outcome. That's what I mean by "communication issue".
To make it computational, the host has to look inside O. Then it's actually incoherent for O to compute the outcome, internally or otherwise
ok well this is the thing
if it "computes the outcome", then (by the ~nonexistence of communication issues) there is a function that computes the outcome and then outputs it
and like, this O is just... lying
and then you're only letting the flip machine see the lies, and then trying to claim that the truthful version of it is the halting oracle
Well no, that outcome here relies on O's opaqueness and conditionally computed outcome.
getting the contradiction (to prove that the oracle doesn't exist) is basically exactly the same as finding the actual answer in order to be able to claim that it's a halting oracle in the first place
if you have a truly opaque "oracle", then the standard halting problem argument tells you that sometimes it will give the wrong answer, and there is nothing else you can reasonably say about it, because if the oracle is opaque we can't look inside to see if it knows the correct answer and just lies sometimes
if you have an oracle and we're looking at its beliefs instead of its output, then the standard halting problem argument, applied to a function that computes the oracle's beliefs, tells you that sometimes its beliefs give the wrong answer
and we have a function that computes the oracle's beliefs because that is provided by the claim that it is a halting oracle
if you can't compute the real answer then you don't have a halting oracle, if you can compute the real answer then you can diagonalise and find that this answer is sometimes wrong
Right you're saying that the "opaque" function that can't communicate its answer necessarily leads to the halting problem. I agree, that's what I was saying with A. What I was trying to say that if you only consider the "opaque" case in vacuum, you haven't really shown why it's a computational issue. So if you were the very first person trying to prove this, you'd reproduce the standard setup and then say something like "and there are no pure 'communication' issues that can't be mapped to computational ones. QED"
Are u Japanese
おい
what about you?
Yeah but why are you writing it here
Is that ur biz
I'm just curious
Well don't be
ooh cool, that's another language i wanna learn!
Ok ok cool
This chat is dry
dead chat fr
Dead?
Tandoori Chicken
Some of us enjoy peace and quiet
not saying i dont enjoy it, peace and quiet's nice
mb I was asleep
do u mean colour roles? u need to chat here often (see #info )
@soft mesa welcome to the mathcord!
thanku im trying to enjoy math, this was step one :3
how'd you sleep?
pretty well
nice
i just noticed the ADO tag, didn't even know such a server existed
WORLD ADO-MINATION
omg another ado fan
let's gooo
I have been listening to her songs since 2022 and didn't know an ado server exists
well I found it like 2 months ago lol
Ado fans scream usseewa in their free time
same
thats a thing? wow
I love Ado's theorem
meow
Yo I got a question anyone care to answer
hi! welcome to the mathcord! 
Oh my god not again
Do you know how to construct a coordinate plane from point P and a line L?
Not asking how
Just if you know
There are infinitely many planes that contain that line
Thankyou 😊
Yuppp
I have a question, (I hope it is ok for me to ask): is it ok for me to ask if anyone knows anything about math? I need help
No. I study political science.
Some people know many things about maths
2 more weeks until classes start back up for me again 
I think so, yes!
People get really weird in this server
lesson learned: use your psychic powers to foretell the question people are about to ask(?)
bro...
Hey
What if
I counted 50 odd numbers?
1, 3, 5, 7, 9, 11, 13, 15, 17, 19, 21, 23, 25, 27, 29, 31, 33, 35, 37, 39, 41, 43, 45, 47, 49, 51, 53, 55, 57, 59, 61, 63, 65, 67, 69, 71, 73, 75, 77, 79, 81, 83, 85, 87, 89, 91, 93, 95, 97, and 99
Welcome to the server @keen valve @spare shell
Damn
Anyone interested in starting a Math and Physics Visualization community?
Manim server fr
Thankx
The loaf of bread is at the floor
Nope, Zan didn't manage to find the, and this kind of incompetence has to be punished
Heck yeah
there’s also one on linalg
i think my uni library has these i should have a look maybe theyre fun mwahaha
weeb
What kind of punishment?
I see a car on the floor though
Fermat Kitchen
anime this season too
but seems like the math is only decoration
Math has always been decoration in shows 
Math tutorials are the best anime. Re:Zero and Attack on Titan is nothing compared to this.
filler vid
An Evangelion Opening Parody
BGM: A Cruel Angel's Thesis (Neon Genesis Evangelion OP)
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_oZ9Pe0yRg and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiEvlwfxgAo
the setup for the show makes it seem like there could be more
but I think it's just gonna be numbers and random ass equations streaming by as he has kitchen epiphanies

worse nonsense than general abstract nonsense
I mean, I understand the protagonist of that anime wants to be like Mochizuki
So that tracks
he's an IMO aspirant
what did you expect

g circ h wrong order :/
Maybe the plot of the anime will be a series of insult fights with other mathematicians.
That could actually be fairly entertaining if done right 
@everyone gn gng
Very disappointing
hahahah this is the greatest word ever invented: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nonfirstorderizability
hi,im currently a junior in hs im taking ap calc and i want to get a 5 on the ap exam i heard professor leonard on youtube was really good will that be all i need? or do i need other souces?
i also heard that bc is onl two units more than ab so i should just study a little more on my own time
sure thats good. paul's online math notes is also great for worked examples and extra problems
make sure you do some exercises too, just watching youtube videos is usually not enough
so i should take the bc exam?
oh ok
i would say its a better idea usually

There's some smart people here right
I need yalls opinion
Told my friend that nuclear energy was very good, but he said tidal energy was better. Idk anything about tidal energy, so I was wondering if ones more efficient than the other, or pros and cons
Both are terrible
why is nuclear bad arent there safe ways to store the waste now
nuclear energy = bad is a psyop bruh
because
sometimes
nuclear energy go boom
especially if people are being dumb
and it also affects our environment negatively
so
what are we even talk about
what are YOU talking about
fossil fuels lol
nuclear is greener than fossil fuels or natural gas
nuclear energy is infinitely better for the environment so long as the waste is handled and stored responsibly which is totally doable
yeah it still impacts the environment 😭
everything does…





