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foggy meadow
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I just don't like the middle ages much.

neat lintel
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The middle ages were peak tho, i'd like to be a 10th century feud lord

foggy meadow
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I mean, I guess.

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I like the first century the most.

neat lintel
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Although, of course, we are living in the best period of human history

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so enjoy your life pal

neat lintel
foggy meadow
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That's debatable.

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Probably close to true or something.

neat lintel
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That's when God came down here. Certainly the best event in human history
But that was only in the first 1/3 of the century

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Everything else was cooked

foggy meadow
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I disagree?

neat lintel
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Oh wait idk if you are religious too

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Well who cares, we can agree to disagree on that matter

foggy meadow
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I am, but I think Jesus came at the peak of humanity.

neat lintel
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Oh ok

foggy meadow
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At the most ripe time. It also says something to that effect in the bible.

neat lintel
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Oh yhh

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That was the best time that He could've become a man

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But that's not the best time in history

foggy meadow
# neat lintel Oh yhh

But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law,

foggy meadow
neat lintel
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The best time in history for the average person to live is objectively rn

foggy meadow
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I just don't agree.

neat lintel
foggy meadow
neat lintel
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Although time travel is not logically possible

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So just imagine an alternate timeline

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Or a world pretty much identical to 1st century Rome

foggy meadow
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I wouldn't mind it because my ancestors would be in Gaul.

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Which would suck.

neat lintel
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Otherwise you would return 10/10 times

foggy meadow
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This assumes a lot.

neat lintel
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But

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Actually

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You would be crucified.

barren anchor
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best time to be alive was prehistory

foggy meadow
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Have you made arrow heads?

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Or like stuff like that?

barren anchor
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just a sweet ape eating berries and peanuts and bugs

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chilling on a tree branch watching dumb lions

foggy meadow
neat lintel
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Unless you renounced your faith

foggy meadow
neat lintel
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Or maybe you were lucky to live before Nero

neat lintel
foggy meadow
neat lintel
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Maybe close to Parthia then (far east of the roman empire)

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Gaul is not in the outskirts of the roman empire

foggy meadow
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Or Brittan area.

neat lintel
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Oh yh Britain

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So you would have to be there after Claudius conquered it

foggy meadow
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Ofc.

neat lintel
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So atleast halfway through the 1st century

foggy meadow
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North scotland would be fun.

neat lintel
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What

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That's not in the roman empire tho

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They never conquered Scotland

foggy meadow
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I said first century.

neat lintel
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Yh they never conquered Scotland

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The romans NEVER conquered Scotland

barren anchor
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that viking times?

foggy meadow
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Yep, or bactria would be cool to go to.

barren anchor
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pretty sure Scotland was at much at risk as the rest of great britain

foggy meadow
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I love greco-buddhism, the art was awesome.

barren anchor
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some dude just walks off a boat, slaughters your family and takes your oats

neat lintel
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The romans never advanced much into that part of Britain

foggy meadow
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Yeah they kept the older system of being.

barren anchor
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Romans are an entirely different problem

neat lintel
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I mean the romans didnt conquer Arabia too

barren anchor
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and yeah I agree not a concern there but the other concerns were also wilin

foggy meadow
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I also like Persia, but boy was it a mess.

neat lintel
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Your children die early but you got 10 children so that evens out

neat lintel
barren anchor
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I’d probably chill as an ancient hindu or native north american if I couldn’t be an ape

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if civilization is insisted upon

foggy meadow
neon garnet
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i think it's interesting. plus, you can step and watch through a lot till you get it too

barren anchor
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I enjoy prince of persia the videogame series, if that’s accurate man how dope

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Some dang sultan with a time spell always turning people into sand

foggy meadow
neat lintel
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When they introduced gymnasius in Israel

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Gymnasiums*

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Utterly crazy stuff ngl

dusky locust
foggy meadow
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you mean nude areas?
With the bros?

neat lintel
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Yh

foggy meadow
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Honestly would be lit.

neat lintel
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Nah that's crazy

foggy meadow
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That's me though.

neat lintel
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Actually that's part of the reason why the jews rebelled in the first place

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💀

barren anchor
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I’m a sucker for hellenistic greece

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I think it was just covering eachother in olive oil and wrestling, and debating

foggy meadow
neat lintel
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Give to Caesar what is Caesar's

foggy meadow
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Makes you think he was like "na, Rome is Rome."

neat lintel
foggy meadow
barren anchor
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more like low-brow

neat lintel
foggy meadow
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Okay that's meh, while a gym is ew.

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Gotya.

neat lintel
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it's not as bad a gymnasium ig

foggy meadow
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gymnasium is literally just working out naked.

neat lintel
foggy meadow
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It's like a communal bath, but for your body?

barren anchor
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Yeah gymnasium ok baths seem fine

foggy meadow
barren anchor
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Some cultures still do communal bathing

neat lintel
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I mean that communal baths wise ppl wouldnt necessarily be exposed to each other

barren anchor
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In Japan it’s not uncommon

neat lintel
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Cuz of the water yk

foggy meadow
neat lintel
foggy meadow
neat lintel
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@foggy meadow wait why are you sussing me out rn bro

foggy meadow
neat lintel
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That's the sus part

foggy meadow
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To me the whole is sus if nude.

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But, if we nude then we nude.

barren anchor
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I think it’d be kinda chill to just chill naked comfortably socially. It is comfortable in or out of a warm bath.

neat lintel
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I mean honestly, a communal bath could be completely ok if you could cover your body at all times

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Which is possible ig?

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Not at a gymnasium i think

barren anchor
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I ate the apple though by being raised modern western and now I’m ashamed

foggy meadow
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I mean a lot of places were nude.

neat lintel
barren anchor
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Is it only the abrahamic religions that nude-shame?

foggy meadow
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Yes.

neat lintel
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i think God is based though

foggy meadow
neat lintel
foggy meadow
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They were against gymnosophism.

foggy meadow
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I liked when he made the water, and then the earth.

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And then the other spirits.

neat lintel
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Just lobotomize yourself

barren anchor
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true but I gotta work with what I got

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the mind-cage I’ve built for myself

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It is a robe of the mind

neat lintel
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@foggy meadow but seriously tho, im only saying this cuz u are a christian aswell, greece was kinda lame tbh, and ancient times in general. In the OT you have Moses talking about the Levantine (Western middle east basically, and mesopotomia to its east too) pagan homossexuals and then you got Paul in the NT talking about the roman stuff that was influenced by the greeks

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That was a weird time in history

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But that's not special tbh.

foggy meadow
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It is, but deny that.

neat lintel
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U pretty much had the same stuff in other times, just more frowned upon

foggy meadow
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It said it was, and when I look into it.
It very very much is.

foggy meadow
neat lintel
foggy meadow
neat lintel
barren anchor
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A weird time

foggy meadow
neat lintel
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oh yh true

foggy meadow
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All the stuff I'm refrencing is from then.

barren anchor
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paganism and judaism side by side

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and ofc christianity

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baby christianity

neat lintel
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Tbh the emperors should have stopped promoting orgies in general, that only stopped in the 4th century and then u got stuff like the Tessalonika Massacre which was an overreaction

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I mean who can blame them? That's just grecian values in general

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Greece never stopped influencing the world

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Because the west is founded upon them.

neat lintel
barren anchor
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Im over it

vivid halo
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Greeks then: (builds civilization)
Greeks now: it's 11:30pm time to take my grandma and my niece to the nightclub

barren anchor
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Greeks r old hats

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the whole west is still trying it on

foggy meadow
neat lintel
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"oh well, we just crucified this one jew. Turns out people think he is alive and reached heaven (true) and now ppl are defying the emperors? Kill them"
3 centuries later: yh Christ is king - emperor Theodosius

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History is funny as hell

foggy meadow
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It's beautiful too.

neat lintel
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Yh i described the most beautiful turn of events in history

barren anchor
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it didn’t even take that long really

vivid halo
barren anchor
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I read a book called master and margarita that is just stunning

neat lintel
barren anchor
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It has portrayals from first person, well researched and historically true, with some nice magical color

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For christianity to go from a persecuted to cult to state religion

neat lintel
# vivid halo

Far eastern "wise" bros when a random western nation cooks them:

foggy meadow
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I mean it's cool, but not beautiful to me.

neat lintel
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What is beautiful to you?

barren anchor
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samurai champloo style

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Mugen lazy af

foggy meadow
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Which I have been.

vivid halo
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from recent trip

neat lintel
barren anchor
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Is that Greece?

neat lintel
neat lintel
barren anchor
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yeah sure. It’s just kinda funny

foggy meadow
barren anchor
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Feels like not much has happened since muhammed

neat lintel
vivid halo
neat lintel
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And it's based

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barren anchor
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I mean in terms of the birth and rise of a major world religion

neat lintel
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Muhammad was the greatest Antichrist till now

foggy meadow
# neat lintel Nah type it

I feel like it was the peak of history.
Because at the time Christ existed, I seems like it could have gone anywhere and still would have flourished.
I also think Christianity is a combination of some of the best ideas from the time.

barren anchor
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are mormons a major one? I don’t read much about em

foggy meadow
barren anchor
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in America they’re pretty much confined to poor rural areas

neat lintel
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later on christians were persecuted

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Bunch of conspiracies and emperors killed

vivid halo
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there are more Mormons than Jews

neat lintel
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Yh

foggy meadow
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Which is bad, and closed view.

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You miss the actual picture that God had painted.

neat lintel
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Rome was the peak of mankind

foggy meadow
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I disagree.

neat lintel
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Which empire was better than Rome when it existed?

vivid halo
neat lintel
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If you say China then you are getting blocked

foggy meadow
neat lintel
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yh blocked

foggy meadow
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XDDDD

neat lintel
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Just kidding

barren anchor
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didn’t even know they lived worldwide

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i don’t think it depends on where you live really. We’re talking major world religions

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Wouldn’t make a ton of sense to be like well it’s not a major religion because I live in China.

neat lintel
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But nah that's misguided, China was never as powerful and as prosperous as Rome

foggy meadow
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The han chinese still call themselves and name themselves after it.

neat lintel
foggy meadow
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So was their writing and their culture spread across asia.

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I also think Persia out witted Rome often.

neat lintel
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What bro

foggy meadow
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So, militarily Persia was pretty great.

neat lintel
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Yh that's just not respectable at this point

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Rome is peak.

foggy meadow
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I disagree.

barren anchor
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China is probably as powerful and prosperous as rome right now

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relatively speaking too

neat lintel
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Ok i'll stop talking like that, just 100% honesty
Rome was the most powerful empire when it existed. That's not actually debatable. And it was richer too

foggy meadow
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Also, I'm not catholic.
So, time to have a bias against me and putting me in the not really Christian category.

neat lintel
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Parthia and China were never as great as Rome

foggy meadow
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I liked them more, so far.

neat lintel
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China in particular was almost an equal but not an equal

vivid halo
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British Empire was the most powerful empire in history no contest

foggy meadow
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The Parabole Lazarus.

barren anchor
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Weren’t the byzantines just as powerful as the western roman empire?

foggy meadow
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The rich man thought he was over lazarus.
But lazarus was the main character in that story.

barren anchor
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like 150 years after the west fell apart?

neat lintel
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The closest thing you did here was that sus gymnasium stuff but it's pretty much just trolling so idc

foggy meadow
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I mean that's also an assumption that I was trolling??

neat lintel
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Wait the tides are turning

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It's getting awkward now

barren anchor
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did you look up byzantines

foggy meadow
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Lmao.

barren anchor
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it is awkward now

neat lintel
barren anchor
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I seek the tide to crash on me

foggy meadow
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Saying it was sus to not dislike all nudity?

neat lintel
foggy meadow
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Look in a mirror.

barren anchor
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yeah justinian

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the best and only memorable byzantine emperor in my mind

neat lintel
barren anchor
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and the only one I knownanything about

neat lintel
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and

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Constantine XI

barren anchor
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justimbian

foggy meadow
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analyse your entire sexuality based on these comments
Bruhh, that's funny.

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Imagine, gosh.

neat lintel
barren anchor
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He was an excellent administrator iirc

neat lintel
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Wait look up that one byzantine emperor

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Heraclius

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The muslims say he talked to Muhammad

foggy meadow
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Hypocrites exist and are in this very chat.

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For you are okay with one thing, but not the other.

neat lintel
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Till i die

foggy meadow
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dipsuxe

neat lintel
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Wait i was about to say something poetic

foggy meadow
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Then why is it said to not be of two-minds?

barren anchor
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only thanos was a truly powerful emperor

neat lintel
neat lintel
barren anchor
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yes the famous ruler

neat lintel
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Thanos the Great

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Thanonian dynasty

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Of Antarctica

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oh mb

foggy meadow
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If I accept one thing, but not another, then put my self in a high place.
I'm no better than those Jesus criticized.

neat lintel
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if i accept one thing but not another, yet the other is rejected because of something that the accepted thing also has, then im cooked. If it doesnt have that thing, then no

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which is why i talked about the possibility of being covered at all times

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Most public baths arent like that so i'd say most of these are not it

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but if there is any at all that allows for that, it's fair.

neat lintel
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Anyway

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@barren anchor math?

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I'll go to the other chat

barren anchor
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what about math?

foggy meadow
barren anchor
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Formula for cumulative angles of polygon?!

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i never accept one thing but not the other about axioms for math

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that shit is consistent until you’re like is ZFC fake

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Do we need more infinite structures

wanton abyss
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Does anyone know any books on Euclidean geometry in Spanish?

neat lintel
sharp cedar
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sorry for the lack of updates, i managed to make this work and have example code here: https://github.com/Ernesti04/general_projects/blob/main/index_cascade.py
to use it you enter plaintext and get shifted text out or put shifted text in and get plaintext out. the seed is based on abcd so there isn't a need for an extra variable from the user

i've made a lot of changes to the main program's code, I'm just doing some testing and want to make sure I'm happy enough with it before uploading. i've test it with an a up to 5000 before it starts to run out of memory, b and c are relative to a. with the way the cascade seed is generated, the d value should be >= a to be safe

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The biggest downside to my actual program that i've noticed is that the result is always much larger than the input, so it's very space inefficient

limber thunder
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(we can't directly send .pdf of copyrighted books here due to Discord terms of service catthink)

split cipher
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Hi

dusky schooner
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.-.

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there is some one her

cold patrol
gusty narwhal
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hi

jaunty ibex
willow crystal
gusty socket
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!bnuuy

quasi jettyBOT
cold patrol
gusty narwhal
cold patrol
gusty narwhal
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Nice to meet you too sky

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What's your name?

cold patrol
gusty narwhal
cold patrol
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isn't it turtle?

gusty narwhal
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Oh pfp?

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Yeah from peppa pig-

cold patrol
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lol, do u love it?

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ur pet?

gusty narwhal
gusty narwhal
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Hru?

neat lintel
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!bnuuy

quasi jettyBOT
neat lintel
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!cats

quasi jettyBOT
fringe summit
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There’s also

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!worm

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raaaa

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!wormin

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I’ve been bamboozled I know there was a similar one

sharp swan
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!death

fringe summit
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Also a RatJam one

ocean harbor
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ocean harbor
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!rats

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gray berry
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.

fringe summit
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Yeyeye

plain island
vivid quest
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!dogs

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cloud rover
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@versed raft Wait I'm confused, "future fluent"?

versed raft
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Yes

cloud rover
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[sorry, noticed you recently posted in prealg, and didn't wanna bring up linguistics there lol]

versed raft
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It means I'm not fluent yet, but I'll become fluent

cloud rover
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どのぐらいできる?日本語を話すのが
-# How far along are you? in terms of being able to speak Japanese?

serene vault
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👀

cloud rover
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I began that sentence thinking 日本語の話し方

serene vault
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ah that happens hahah

cloud rover
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Which would warrant の

serene vault
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the brainfart of mixing two phrases tgt

cloud rover
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wait Seia you aren't Japanese though right?

serene vault
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half

cloud rover
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!!

serene vault
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but i'm considerably bad at JP for a halfie

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because my fam doesn't speak much JP. i speak more JP with my music teacher

cloud rover
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レンシュウしないとな opencry

serene vault
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why is renshuu in katakana eeveethink

cloud rover
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日本語の、音楽の opencry

serene vault
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ah kek

latent edge
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なんだか日本語雑談のチャンネルになってて草

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lmao

cloud rover
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Diese Kanal ist jetzt Eigentum... but in Japanese

serene vault
cloud rover
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そうね

latent edge
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kek

cloud rover
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流暢(?)になりたい人、ハーフ、そしてシットポストぐらいできてもJLPTN3もないけどほしい僕

serene vault
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i think normally people would just say うまくなりたい方

latent edge
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I would say 日本語上手と日本人に言われる方

cloud rover
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まぁ、「流暢」のユーザーネームがあるし

cloud rover
serene vault
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i should really speak more Japanese

latent edge
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Your bar should be higher than 日本語上手 my friend

serene vault
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i just realize i suck major ass at the language

cloud rover
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Oh I think you were missing a だ there @latent edge lol

latent edge
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hm?

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Where

latent edge
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Waes

serene vault
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ah

cloud rover
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日本語上手__だ__と日本人に言われる方

latent edge
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Or really anyone learning Japanese

latent edge
cloud rover
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そう

serene vault
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counter nihongo jouzus with eigo jouzu

cloud rover
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ないと、「日本語上手」が形容動詞っぽい

cloud rover
latent edge
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I got them saying 日本人ですか so im good

cloud rover
# latent edge I got them saying 日本人ですか so im good

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latent edge
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もち

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Dogen core

serene vault
# cloud rover _Counter nihongo jouzu with "ah, nihonjin desu"_

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serene vault
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welp it's time to return to fox cave

cloud rover
serene vault
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hah? me? linguist?

cloud rover
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(where the 日本語 channel has just become another general lol)

serene vault
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i speak like a dumb

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write like a gaijin

cloud rover
serene vault
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didn't know that was a thing

cloud rover
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Though there are lingustics channels in the Deeper Cave (yes, the server got so big they had to split it off into a second server called DCoL)

latent edge
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Idek what is Deeper Cave

serene vault
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the only cave i belong in is the fox cave

latent edge
serene vault
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てめぇー
ok i should probably stop before i get reported

cloud rover
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lol getting reported for てめぇー would be crazy

latent edge
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I don't think you will get reported

serene vault
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well whatever follows can't be nice

latent edge
compact surge
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japanese conversation? without me?

latent edge
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Zoracchi

cloud rover
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YES

compact surge
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akirachan

serene vault
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op time for me to remove myself

cloud rover
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ぬーーー、もどりなさいぃぃ
-# nuuuu come backkkkk

serene vault
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why do you always edit for the TL HAHAHAH

cloud rover
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bc not everyone here speaks jp lol

serene vault
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i mean you could type it straight away

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or do you always forget the TL and go back for it hahah

cloud rover
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It's often an afterthought yes

serene vault
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ah

compact surge
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nyan

cloud rover
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僕の猫になるつもりなの

serene vault
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life lesson: always check the language of your kb before typing

latent edge
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nyan

compact surge
latent edge
compact surge
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賢いにゃんこ

errant zenith
compact surge
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meow

cloud rover
serene vault
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yep

latent edge
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nyanpasu

pure hollow
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Mortifying

cloud rover
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mortified by meow-ning; gotcha

serene vault
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an army of cats is otw

neat lintel
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!cats

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cloud rover
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wait, ハーフなら他の国は?

serene vault
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the other country? you mean my other race?

cloud rover
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そう

serene vault
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中国人

cloud rover
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literally the first thought for me was country tho so opencry

serene vault
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specifically Malaysian Chinese

cloud rover
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what a combo

serene vault
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so not mainlander or taiwanese or smth

cloud rover
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中国語はどう

serene vault
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i have the worst of both worlds lol

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i suck at both languages

cloud rover
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bruh Malaysian Chinese is okay wtf you on about opencry

serene vault
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雙方一起死

serene vault
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there's a term here called banana

cloud rover
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yh ik the term

serene vault
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reserved for those who can speak the language well but not write it

cloud rover
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yellow on the outside

serene vault
cloud rover
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and we know the rest

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Coordinate terms including "coconut"

serene vault
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but yeah i am better in CN than in JP, and i'm best in mandarin CN (though can speak cantonese and hokkien too)

cloud rover
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ah

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ジョウズデスネ (read in the whitest accent you can imagine opencry)

serene vault
#

あたし下手くそんだよ

cloud rover
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まぁ、頑張ってよね

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上手くなれるように 🙏

serene vault
#

me and jouzu don't belong in the same sentence kek

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le me is suck at everything including math

compact surge
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:3c

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あたし日本語下手だね :3

serene vault
#

噓つけ

compact surge
#

そっか

serene vault
#

the only hetakuso is me pls

compact surge
#

serene vault
#

no 噓

compact surge
#

nuh uh

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where is delteto

flat harbor
#

actual weeb discourse shit in my discord chat

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thought id never see the day

latent edge
flat harbor
#

u caught me

vocal vessel
serene vault
#

provable

compact surge
compact surge
#

i am

serene vault
#

it me

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grrr

compact surge
#

a

vivid quest
#

Oinc

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Oink

latent edge
#

Akari chan

serene vault
#

seyana

latent edge
serene vault
#

wakaru

latent edge
#

shirankedoooo

compact surge
#

w

errant zenith
#

w

pure hollow
#

L

livid night
#

W

restive salmon
#

L

vivid quest
#

W

rancid helm
#

why GPT-4o is the one that comes with payed plan and not o4-mini which is better?

serene vault
#

why not direct that question to OpenAI

latent edge
keen sparrow
vivid quest
#

Money

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4o is performing amazing on expert topics tho

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But requests cost a lot

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Fortunately

neon garnet
vivid quest
#

Ye

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Idr the name if the benchmark

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But that's very promising

neon garnet
#

i was about to ask where i can learn more ASnekolaugh

neon garnet
#

lately i feel interested in o3? more internal prompting layers.

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i did a task. i gave it to o3. o3 performed worse, but still soundly. filters remain important 🤷🏽‍♀️

lone flower
# neon garnet

I fricking hate that GPT Plus cost like 7 dollar more where I live

#

And that I still pay for it

lone flower
#

as well as o4-mini-high

vast wraith
neon garnet
vast wraith
#

as in, having it give you pieces of the literature?

neon garnet
#

no like "this text is saying [this]. see [here]"

#

or directly "<quote> <reference>" vibe

vast wraith
neon garnet
#

mhm so like, say you give it a book. then say, "hm, what's steps involved in this idea from the book" then it'll say, "<quote concerning the steps from the book> <link to the part of the book with the quote>. or like, if you give it a bunch of sources like idk the wiki for the movia companion and say, "okay, what's the date that companion came out?" then it'll say, "the companion movie was released on x date. [link to the wiki page]"

vivid quest
neon garnet
#

or like, "what's turning point of the zoe's backstory?" then it'll be like, "oh, the turning point of zoe's back story was 'quote from the wiki' (link)"

#

so you see that a lot with like, the gemini ai summaries

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how it shows the link u can click

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that's like rag

vivid quest
neon garnet
#

except gemini also pulls from unreputable sources

#

i mean gpt also can so it's important to practice a lot of media literacy when using those tools for searching, except you can control it lowk tightly? like, "only from x sources."

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but with llm search u can describe more clearly what you want than you can with like a search engine like ddg or smth

#

google

vivid quest
#

So the benchmark i was talking about is frontier math but there are other ones

#
Epoch AI

Our database of benchmark results, featuring the performance of leading AI models on challenging tasks. It includes results from benchmarks evaluated internally by Epoch AI as well as data collected from external sources. The dashboard tracks AI progress over time, and correlates benchmark scores with key factors like compute or model accessibil...

vast wraith
neon garnet
neon garnet
vast wraith
#

so the immediate takeaway is something like, it’s not very good at making sense of specific pieces of information you feed it

vivid quest
neon garnet
vivid quest
#

By experts

neon garnet
#

so im like, "okay, did the text really say that, or did you think that and then just say that this source said that?"

vivid quest
#

So that's pretty damn impressive to have 20% on that

neon garnet
vast wraith
neon garnet
#

wdym

vast wraith
#

it suggest that the text didn’t really say that

vivid quest
neon garnet
#

i think it's healthy to fact check by default anyway

#

esp gpt

#

and like, gpt will regurgitate myths

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and misinformation

#

i also kinda notice gendered bias in the embeddings too tbr

vast wraith
#

idk

neon garnet
#

how it shows up like, sometimes i get results biased in the topics

vast wraith
neon garnet
lone flower
lone flower
neon garnet
# vast wraith ooh im very curious about this, do you have any examples?

a good example is like, book recommendations? sometimes i ask for books on topics. sometimes it unearths a book i'm looking for and im like, great! other times it like, gives social criticisms instead of technical books when you're looking for technical books specifically by female authors. like, SV might complain, "well, there aren't as many women!" and then ethical ceos in SV would say, "ok. find them." but i think it can be helpful to point to human curated lists. like, if you're leveraging description heavily in your search.

neon garnet
#

elon's model pushed some nazi thing or something and a C-suite person resigned due to backlash recently. iirc something like that

lone flower
lone flower
#

So its extremely biased, yeah

neon garnet
#

twitter does that too

#

there's like, branches in the code to make sure to amplify elon's tweets and also like, protect his account from being affected algorithm changes

neon garnet
lone flower
#

can just search it in the internet and will see more then enough articles and post bout that

#

Also there was one where youd ask Grok who is the greatest americian and itd say Elon Musk, I tried that one on my own and it did actually say that Lol

strange oracle
#

guys i have just started permutations and combinations

#

and ill se honest

#

im not good at critical thinking or mathematical reasonings

lone flower
#

ok

vast wraith
#

this seems like the kind of thing that they could tune the machine to yield some emphasis

hard oasis
#

Yeah this one should be better

#

So yeah there won't be extra colours or anything

#

For instance I wouldnt get a new colour, just my blue back

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Most roles that serve a purpose actually don't even have colours

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Helpful is the exception which grants help desk perms (and mod ofc)

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Not even yello grants you anything new (okay except .remindme maybe)

scarlet mango
hard oasis
#

Wdym the fairness of the thing?

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I don't think anyone will oppose the thing and vote ❌

scarlet mango
#

well if I knew, I would've written it in the suggestion threadKEK

scarlet mango
hard oasis
#

Wdym?

scarlet mango
#

It took me a while to understand how coloured roles work as well as roles as a whole. I'm sure there'll be ppl like me later on, but the format won't be as simple as now

hard oasis
#

It will though

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Cuz the idea is that as soon as you get any color role

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You also gain access to a secret channel

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Roles are already xplained in #info

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But that secret channel would explain you can react to messages in order to select the color you wanna display, or none if you wish

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That's the sole purpose of the suggestion; nothing more, nothing less! catGiggle

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The inner workings of each role and clarity regarding their each purpose is already something you can find and you can ask people about (eg I explained what obsidian and meta were when you got access)

scarlet mango
scarlet mango
hard oasis
hard oasis
scarlet mango
#

until after*

#

anyways, thanks for the clarificationscatking

neon garnet
#

like, right to explore the world rather than the problematic box we've cut out of the world with our ed tech tool you're spending most of your time in (among ur edtech tool options), for their users, esp since people making decisions from those biases will act those decisions out in the world giggle

unborn meteor
#

.acl list

quasi jettyBOT
#

ACLs: shell, pins, manage_tags, manage_clopen, view_acl, minimods, manage_bot, reminders, mods, pm, edit_acl, public, manage_server, polls
Unused: ping_talks, committee, ping_meta, ping_bot_devs, review_voter, ping_omega, ping_gamma, champions, ping_chi

iron nimbus
plain island
#

many of those are in fact used

cloud rover
sharp swan
#

shell

half relic
#

Is it possible to cover calculus in a month and a half if you’re still covering functions?

hollow crest
half relic
verbal quest
#

there's a difference between possible and advisable
why do you need it done in 6 weeks
why are you only up to where you are at this point
(rhetorical questions)
you need to be realistic with yourself

hollow crest
#

And your capability of grasping concepts @half relic

half relic
half relic
hollow crest
half relic
verbal quest
#

I hate to be a pessimist
but I think you should consider the outcome that it won't happen
so you're prepared
try your best and all, but still

half relic
hollow crest
half relic
misty owl
#

From my understanding:
high school: General
Associates: pre-specialization
Bachelor’s: specialization
Masters: sub-specialization
Doctorate: sub-sub-specialization
What if you wanna do sub-sub-sub-specialization?

vivid halo
#

postdoc lol

#

but also one doesn't necessarily specialize further into the same topic the more time goes on, arguably one shouldn't do this

misty owl
#

Aight

misty owl
vivid quest
dreamy dagger
#

Why do you do math

#

Why of all the subjects this is the one you picked

unborn meteor
#

also i prefer science and programming over math

#

but i like math still

dreamy dagger
#

Do you feel fulfilled

unborn meteor
#

yes

dreamy dagger
#

Do you feel like you can be more

restive salmon
#

So about chatgpt can i send it a set of qs and ask about what topic its made for? Or is it also not credible

vivid quest
#

Also im better at maths than other things

serene vault
vivid quest
#

Idk if its a cause or a consequence tho

restive salmon
restive salmon
dreamy dagger
#

No I was going to ask you a question I apologize for the misunderstanding

vivid quest
#

Chatgpt is pretty safe for very documented classic topics, not for other things tho

#

Even for classic topics sometimes it's unclear

unborn meteor
#

or just ask me

vivid quest
restive salmon
#

Cuz I applied to this math comp it didnt have any syllabus or material whatsoever its just past exams questions and reading those questions seems about things I haven’t learned yet

dreamy dagger
#

What do you do besides math

restive salmon
serene vault
restive salmon
#

Maybe ill do one exam

#

And ask about it

serene vault
#

i mean you can send a couple

restive salmon
serene vault
#

if you have that many, sure

#

since you're not asking for answers but rather what field they're in i believe

restive salmon
#

Like i dont need the answer just the felid the qs are meant ifykwim

serene vault
#

then yeah sure

#

i've seen helpees with way more questions before

restive salmon
#

Ok when i get home ill do just that

restive salmon
vivid quest
#

If i understand well, you have question about things you haven't learnt yet, so you just want to know what to study to be able to solve them?

restive salmon
#

Ty seia

serene vault
vivid quest
plain island
vivid quest
#

Clearly gerrymandered

vocal vessel
#

Ben & Jerry's "Cherry-mandered"

vivid quest
#

😭

vocal vessel
#

I claim a cut of the royalties if they make that flavor next. Yall heard it here first.

nimble spear
#

@tough acorn accept friend req

iron nimbus
#

ok so?

#

easy

scarlet mango
#

it doesn't matter. The goal is to try and help the person who asked how to solve it

iron nimbus
#

but might not be for Star

#

how does the difficulty level matter when we're trying to help ppl tho

#

no, I don't agree

#

sometimes you just get stuck

#

it's not like sitting with it more will help you

scarlet mango
#

posting in the help thread is spending time trying to learn

iron nimbus
#

when we're helping people

#

we guide them

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we're not telling them the answers

#

what's the point of sitting with a problem and not knowing what to do for the whole day?

#

it doesn't

#

maybe you haven't gotten to the level where it just doesn't work

#

sitting with something and not making progress never works

#

always have to ask for help

#

applies in other subjects too

#

and also

#

according to your logic

#

shouldn't you just sit with your problem

#

and not ask for help on this server

severe turtle
#

💀

iron nimbus
#

no

#

go ahead and post it

serene vault
#

i wish i could do that for every single problem i have. then i wouldn't be stuck in this self-deprecating loop

#

i would have killed for the ability to search up anything and understand it immediately every single time

latent edge
#

I would do anything to understand even mod p Galois representations

serene vault
#

but instead this sorry brain has to ask and get confirmation for even the smallest stuff sometimes

#

i get what you're saying but i disagree with you

#

because if i agree with you, i'm saying i shouldn't exist

cloud rover
#

Mrx, it seems like your point is just "stuck? just look at the problem more" - which, while it naively could make sense, is not pragmatically viable

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It's not even true for most things being learnt - it's most definitely seldom true for maths

flat harbor
#

i missed running away from discussion

#

@heady pagoda entertain me

marsh yew
flat harbor
#

yeaaaaa

#

whats going on

brave flare
#

incredible

flat harbor
marsh yew
flat harbor
#

its 3am here now

#

mom accused me of fabricating dinner plans to dodge family night but urs truly expertly dodged it as usual

neon garnet
#

yay yay yay new ideas i've never ever heard before 🙌 re_meloluvspin Happygirl catclap

flat harbor
#

huh?

heady pagoda
reef carbon
#

@lean pawn what are your pronouns btw? i noticed you have the "ask pronouns" role

#

waow

#

long story

gusty narwhal
#

hii

serene vault
#

high schooler studying linalg, abstract alg, some calc and some number theory

#

why

#

no comment on it. i can barely keep up with my own shit and you want me to focus down an unsolved conjecture. in ten years maybe?

iron nimbus
#

why are you trying to ask a group of hslers and ugs about the collatz conjecture blobcry

#

your teacher might even know more

#

"it's easy" openbleak

cloud rover
#

-# not this again

serene vault
#

my thoughts is "no comment". easy enough?

patent zodiac
iron nimbus
patent zodiac
#

you would be suprised

long river
#

three cross plus one

iron nimbus
#

alr

#

then you know enough already ig

#

then why not google?

serene vault
#

good for you. don't ping me and pester me for comments if you do have thoughts about it then

iron nimbus
#

find some papers etc

#

this again

#

Go. Find. Papers. And. Read. Them.

#

if you want to learn more

#

stop pestering us; we don't even have a degree yet

serene vault
#

you just did.

#

you don't know replying by default pings the person you reply to?

#

like this?

iron nimbus
#

ok anyway

#

if you want to learn more about specific fields in higher maths

#

go find some papers and read them

#

if you have parts that you're confused about

#

then come here and ask

serene vault
#

i'm not interested in this talk at this hour. stop pinging me about them.

iron nimbus
#

otherwise don't

#

ok I'm out

#

bye

patent zodiac
#

is bro breaking up with astraea?

lone flower
#

If u see videos about India and all their food stands, then this doesnt look very hygienic

#

I think their whole culture isnt very hygienic

neat lintel
#

💀💀

lone flower
#

Trash everywhere, I saw some data that over 50% or so shit on the street. So not hygienic food isnt a big stretch

#

What

neat lintel
#

that isnt so easy

lone flower
#

Im too

neat lintel
#

High immunity i guess

lone flower
#

No Im pretty sure they have health issues

neat lintel
#

no

lone flower
#

Though I wouldnt be surprised if they did develope immunity by living near trash their whole life was also consuming viruses like a delicacy

neat lintel
#

are you indian?

#

ooo

lone flower
#

No

#

They have arranged and forced marriage

neat lintel
#

no they produce marsupial moles

#

wow

#

but India does play an important role dosent it

#

Globally

#

thats crazy

lone flower
#

Lol

fresh comet
#

@neat lintel welcome to the mathcord! nachoWaves

lone flower
#

Thr government should be way more entrepreneur and business friendly. They did a right thing by creating immense social pressure to become extremely educated but thay doesnt help if they don't have any viable jobs and they all move out

lone flower
#

Bruh

fresh comet
#

no haha

neat lintel
#

you think rahul would do a better job?

fresh comet
#

I know of some, why?

lone flower
neat lintel
#

You could focus on the better side of india aswell uk?

fresh comet
#

yes

#

not really MiniheraBow

old oak
lavish fractal
#

u could solve it btw not many people have tried

raw cedar
#

google sarcasm

neat lintel
#

Hi

fresh comet
#

hi

neat lintel
fresh comet
#

good! you?

neat lintel
#

Fine

restive salmon
#

Yooooo

#

Super duper excited

ocean harbor
oblique condor
restive salmon
#

🤭

ocean harbor
#

ur welcome

ocean robin
#

wave hi everyone :]]]

oblique condor
#

hii

ocean robin
#

how are we all today? :]]]]

junior veldt
#

pretty good

oblique condor
#

GREATT

pure hollow
north topaz
#

@thorn wren congrats on earning the piss role

#

the colour of dehydrated piss

pseudo vale
#

Another Spider-Man?

pearl plinth
#

I have a question

#

1 +1 = 3

#

Why

rocky shuttle
ocean robin
zealous garden
warm lance
#

,align\frac{\cancel Z}{2\cancel Z}&=\frac12\
&=\frac32-1\
\frac32&=1\
\frac3{\cancel2}\cdot\cancel2&=1\cdot2\
3&=2\
3&=1+1

fathom swallowBOT
warm lance
#

,align\frac{\cancel Z}{2\cancel Z}&=0\
\frac12&=0\
\frac32-1&=0\
\frac32&=1\
\frac3{\cancel2}\cdot\cancel2&=1\cdot2\
3&=2\
3&=1+1

fathom swallowBOT
vivid quest
#

what in dark magic

restive salmon
vivid quest
#

No but like

#

That's not how that works!

zealous garden
rocky shuttle
#

0 = 1 indexsmug

old oak
glass peak
old oak
#

Field with one element

glass peak
finite iron
#

oh god

hollow pollen
#

Mathcord has fallen

fierce otter
#

unrelated but crazy how many people explode into a swarm when there's a ping

quaint belfry
#

discussion channel is a nightmare

plucky pond
#

everyone ping sully

cloud star
#

Discussion 1 about to get muted

gloomy bridge
#

Who did that

mild ruin
sonic ether
#

In a democracy we live in

crimson totem
#

Dude. What is happening in the other discussion…

ember torrent
#

What happened-

lyric coyote
#

don't gheck discussion 1

glacial iron
#

wow

lyric coyote
#

check

light verge
fleet oyster
#

how the fuck did that happen

fluid estuary
#

Discussion one tweaking

tropic gulch
#

Lol

ionic quarry
#

jesus

ancient tree
#

Someone pinged everybody

near iris
#

What kind of skxawng used @ everyone in a server this size

fleet cradle
#

that was impressive

restive salmon
#

that is so funny

#

its going so fast there

ancient tree
#

And with 270k people..

radiant tundra
#

refuge from discussion

cursive sail
plain geyser
ember torrent
#

I lowkey forgot I was in this server

green jackal
woven sail
#

is it safe in here im scared

fleet oyster
#

yes I'm asking how it worked

grave sail
#

How is this even possible xD

carmine junco
#

Crazy

bleak moat
#

why ping

unique tundra
#

@everyone

unique tundra
#

hm

tame lotus
#

You know, I passed a math exam once

round tartan
#

What the heck going on

ancient tree
#

Someone forgot to turn it off?

green jackal
gloomy bridge
#

@next schooner did it

brisk heron
ionic quarry
#

now why did it work

crimson totem
cloud star
idle flame
#

i swear 😭

#

bro

ionic quarry
#

is the question

final hamlet
#

lmao

#

who tf is rat

wind palm
#

@here

kind horizon
#

rattus_albionensis

idle ingot
#

Lmao

wraith iron
#

wut has become of math channel

idle ingot
#

@next schooner

wraith iron
#

so sad

oblique bridge
#

One message removed from a suspended account.

teal fable
#

What's going on with discussion one

shut urchin
#

how did the mod team even let this happen 👎

cursive sail
#

yeah but why is there so many other idiots just spamming random shit?

final hamlet
#

@next schooner

kind horizon
#

@next schooner

gloomy bridge
#

@next schooner

chrome jewel
#

somebody pinged

static viper
#

They had a funny role

idle ingot
#

@next schooner

charred willow
#

Honestly discord users when they get pinged.

silk bloom
#

@next schooner

final hamlet
#

@next schooner

gloomy bridge
#

Lol

leaden sluice
#

BRH

idle ingot
#

@next schooner