#serious-discussion

1 messages · Page 286 of 1

restive salmon
#

you got it

#

dw

steel blade
#

Most this summer ive been going through a DSA textbook

#

And its not too difficult but it feels daunting

velvet dagger
#

I think the best thing is to have a certain amount of prep that opens as many doors as possible

steel blade
#

And there was this weird impetus to constructing and working with datastructures that I havent had before. Most times ive just applied datastructures without thinking much of it

#

Yeah I have to prep for finance a little bit too I think

velvet dagger
#

Programming, stats, and a bit of basic ML gives you a fairly broad scope imo?

steel blade
#

Yeah lol for me the ML and stats are lacking

velvet dagger
#

If nothing else programming I guess, should you be gunning for software engineering jobs

#

And then after that you can try to pick one industry that seems most appealing to you

steel blade
#

I still feel like ML is this elusive creature, but I havent spent any time learning methods

velvet dagger
#

It's hard to prepare 100% for all your possible careers and it's arguably not the best use of time

steel blade
#

Its not, but I have fun learning this stuff

velvet dagger
#

Well you don't seem to have reached the over prep stage

steel blade
#

So I can use it as an excuse as a hobby

#

Nah I was doing 2 leetcode a day

velvet dagger
#

I just meant that once you have the foundations, then the strat is probably to pick a career path which you think is the smartest to gun for (based on enjoyment, feasibility, pay, whatever other attributes)

steel blade
#

but it got boring really quick

velvet dagger
#

And then double down on that

#

So eg if you think you would be much happier in quant finance than you would in software engineering

#

Then okay after you do your programming and DSA, better not to go the route of OS and networks and architecture, for now at least

steel blade
#

lol

#

yeah I should just focus more on finance prep if thats the deal

velvet dagger
#

And instead prioritize being very very fast at doing computations in probability/stats/calculus/linear algebra

steel blade
#

wait do they actually want you to be fast?

#

at arithmetic

velvet dagger
#

Not just arithmetic but probability

steel blade
#

lol

restive salmon
#

dami's advices are so helpful lisayay

velvet dagger
#

Quant finance interviews aren't gonna be the whole "What are your strengths and weaknesses?"

steel blade
#

I wonder if being able to do a statistics comp exam is enough

#

i feel like they would have more niche finance things

#

like option pricing or whatever

#

or quizing on finance instruments

velvet dagger
#

"Hi I'm name from company, is this lister?"
"Yes, hello!"
"Okay so this is your round n interview, any questions before we get started?"
"No"
"Okay so consider a game where you roll a die and get paid $x if..."

steel blade
#

lol

velvet dagger
#

So they might phrase questions, especially in later phases, using more finance terminology

latent edge
#

pivoting to stats is easy

#

as a career

#

there's so much you can do

velvet dagger
#

But specifically for quant trading jobs they don't need you to have a ton of background knowledge in finance

steel blade
#

idk any practicing statisticians

latent edge
#

idk how it is in US

velvet dagger
#

They really care mostly about your quantitative skill and are happy to teach you the domain specific stuff in finance on the job

steel blade
#

yeah I got a friend who recently got into a highly regarded finance firm for quant

velvet dagger
#

I think Jane Street has a guide on their website actually, might be worth reading that

steel blade
#

he told me the interview prep wasnt too bad and that I should be okay if I know the topics to study

#

oh cool a guide

velvet dagger
#

But yeah I do think there's a balance to be achieved here between having options (heh) open to you, vs specializing

steel blade
#

this the thing tho balancing prep and school

velvet dagger
#

One way or another you gotta know how to program so good that you're doing that

steel blade
#

gonna be weird getting a schedule like this

velvet dagger
#

And then... I guess hmm what are you looking for in a career?

steel blade
#

I already had a big person job

velvet dagger
steel blade
#

So I kind of know what to expect

latent edge
#

I think if you avoid the ivy syndrome quant firms it should go okay with the right mindset

#

Good luck tho lister

steel blade
#

If its a tech/finance company I know there will be enough challenges to keep me engaged, and I don't want to do too much people management and more project management

velvet dagger
#

True but eg are there types of work you are more interested in, do you care much about pay, about work-life balance/hours, about location?

steel blade
#

Pay needs to be 1.5x my last job

#

I went back to school as an excuse to do more math and potentially get higher paying job

#

and as long as im not working over 60hrs a week I think im fine

#

last job had me doing 50-70 hour workweeks

#

I can always negotiate location, whatever gives more pay pretty much

#

Would be really cool to go overseas or something

#

The choice to take challenges/progress is really important though

velvet dagger
#

Going overseas I think is a bit tricky if you want high enough pay since I think for some of these industries America pay tends to be a fair bit higher than elsewhere

restive salmon
steel blade
#

Yeah USA pay is a gigantic bonus

#

but even cities in USA have big variances

velvet dagger
#

But okay so, how much do you want that challenging aspect to be mathematical?

steel blade
#

I think its a take what I can get situation

velvet dagger
#

Well... You know that you have a very low probability of doing super theoretical math

#

But how do you feel about, say, data analytic type work vs "raw programming" vs...

steel blade
#

Ideally I get to continue doing numerical analysis stuff

#

Implementing papers is always a fun challenge

steel blade
#

Depending on the project it might be something like refactoring structs or working as API support for other clients

#

Something like working at mathworks has this API support structure

velvet dagger
#

Well what I'm thinking here is, your preference will determine where I suggest you emphasize

steel blade
#

Where some time is spent developing/following project lead and other times is listening to client demands

velvet dagger
#

If you find yourself enjoying more math than programming, I'd suggest aiming more toward finance than tech, for example

steel blade
#

Really?

velvet dagger
#

You'll have to program in either one obviously but my impression is that these aren't just like, identical jobs but in different industries

steel blade
#

I don't know what a day to day looks like for math people in finance either

velvet dagger
#

If nothing else data science type programming is gonna be different from, idk back end software

steel blade
#

Well what about you?

#

You are aiming for academic jobs?

velvet dagger
#

In data science it may look a bit more like, okay hmm you have to look at the data, think about the nature of it, think about what types of ML methods are better. Since there are many things floating around, like linear regression, time series, random forests, neural networks, etc etc. And I think a non-trivial portion of the job is making these kinds of decisions (also the other stuff like scraping to get the data, any cleaning/preprocessing, testing performance, etc)

If you're a raw software engineer, you'll be doing fairly different things I figure. Tbh I can't speak much of what the day to day will probably look like there, might depend on the role and company (maybe if you're more senior you care about architecture and systems, if you're more junior maybe you're just coding smaller scale things) + I'm just less familiar

velvet dagger
# steel blade You are aiming for academic jobs?

I've largely thrown in the towel on that. Tbh I've been burned out on research for a long time, and while I have spurts of motivation as far as research goes they're few and far in between. I think I just need more structure to perform well

#

Like first off, given the state of the job market and my fairly limited research progress, I strongly doubt I'd get a good enough postdoc to justify this path, since it is rather grueling

#

And even if I did get a very good one... I do think the workflow of research doesn't click with me as well

steel blade
#

Sorry to hear that

velvet dagger
#

So it might be better to go industry where there's more structure and it's easier for me to be productive

#

Like I will probably still apply to postdocs but I'm pretty much 99% expecting industry

steel blade
#

What part of research gives you this unstructured feeling?

velvet dagger
#

As for what within industry... The mathy side of tech feels like the dream, like maybe IBM research, but idk if there's a clear path for me to do that. I think you need more tailored background

Cryptography might be worth looking at? (NSA and adjacent are the obvious contenders there and... I'm happier with that than doing stuff in defense that's much closer to killing people for sure, but still have a bit of hesitation)

Hours in finance are brutal but the pay is nice and it might be pretty interesting.

Doing AI/ML would require some focused prep but if I lock in and the jobs are there that might be nice, probably still interesting + good pay, maybe better WLB than finance

Data science feels like the standard choice and prob somewhat easier to do, maybe pays less and is less interesting but still not bad by any means. Job market saturation means I don't wanna fully rely on this though

Software engineering raw doesn't feel like my style somehow

steel blade
#

Yeah finance WLB is tough for sure

#

But from the people I know the hours werent so different from my last job

#

and it depends on what type of finance you do

#

So WLB kinda varies

jagged forge
#

they dont call it 8-6/8-8 for nothin harold

steel blade
#

My last job was an 8-6 😢

jagged forge
#

oof

steel blade
#

But I weirdly liked a lot of aspects of it

#

Also I am a single male so I think its easier for me to be okay with

#

As long as I get most weekends off Im happy

jagged forge
#

it's not bad when you enjoy your work, but man i've just been burned out lately

steel blade
#

like atleaast 48 out of the year lol

jagged forge
#

and are single and in your 20s lol

steel blade
#

you are?

#

dang lol

jagged forge
#

yeah

steel blade
#

my routine kept me pushing tho

#

tbh instagram and trivia with coworkers was nice

#

I felt like a japanese salaryman sorta

jagged forge
#

i've been remote for the last 3 years so i don't get much social interaction sadly

steel blade
#

sometimes the gang would get out at 7pm and we'd get fastfood and chill out

#

i miss those guys fr

jagged forge
#

yeah my company's office was in a nice area with bars and restaurants nearby

steel blade
#

downsides of remote lol

#

its really nice when you have people you work with and get along with

jagged forge
steel blade
#

I was only there 2 years but we still keep in touch

steel blade
#

if I was remote though I would just live in a really cheap area

#

like <500 rent and good internet

#

remote and long hours doesnt sound that fun though

#

atleast I got to get lunch w coworkers and hang after work ocasionally

#

i definetly find that as I get older its harder to have schedules align with friends

#

so where you used to hangout every weekend might turn into every month

jagged forge
#

real

#

everyone's married all of a sudden 🙄 imagine being married. simps...

latent edge
#

I'm not

jaunty ibex
#

Yeah I mean people want to have families. Getting fixed to your job is depressing

velvet dagger
#

I kinda alternate on how I feel about getting a family

jaunty ibex
zealous garden
#

I want a family, there is no alternative

jaunty ibex
#

I don't want a family. I just want someone there besides me

ocean robin
#

i want a family of cats EB_SylveonGiggle

latent edge
#

:3

#

ideal

timid bronze
#

I want to start a family as soon as i can after settlement

#

I really want one

latent edge
ocean robin
#

omg if only

#

i want to go back to japan one day soon

latent edge
#

u speak japanese?

jaunty ibex
#

Deltoid 24/7 Japanese yapping incoming

timid bronze
velvet dagger
latent edge
#

I love languages :3c

timid bronze
#

Oh have times changed

jaunty ibex
velvet dagger
#

Things going badly. It's not just about the risk but it feels like having a partner or family is a heavy decision that requires a lot of consideration

timid bronze
#

well yeah for sure

jaunty ibex
timid bronze
#

but there's a risk to everything in life

#

u cant avoid risks

#

u can only acknowledge them and prepare

latent edge
#

Highly populated by cats

jaunty ibex
#

deltoid can u stop :3

#

Cant take u seriously

mint canopy
latent edge
mint canopy
#

PLEASE LAUGH

#

car island

latent edge
#

oh

mint canopy
#

please my children are starving and eat only laughter they need people to laugh

latent edge
#

sorry joke ruined by me being stupid

mint canopy
#

joke ruined by joke being bad

#

dw

latent edge
#

sadge

jaunty ibex
#

deltoid what happened to crush

latent edge
#

it's over

#

i took the L

timid bronze
jaunty ibex
#

gg

#

"There are more rational points than..." ahh

ashen holly
#

Hi

ocean robin
latent edge
#

I didn't know that

timid bronze
ocean robin
latent edge
#

tfw every time I meet someone who has Japanese parents but they only speak English

#

depressing

#

The only exception was my ex

ocean robin
latent edge
#

its okay i can teach :3

timid bronze
#

ive always had a positive look on love

velvet dagger
# timid bronze Im not commenting on family bc i feel like idk too much about u there but riskin...

Yeah I could see it. I guess in my mind I'm kinda thinking, okay to go from how I currently operate to finding someone and getting married would definitely upend things a bit. Now there are a lot of factors to consider, eg two body problem when it comes to career and where to live, how you approach work, etc. Single is def a bit more flexible in that regard, and almost feels like "the default" approach

timid bronze
#

since you dont date, you just get to know them and their life goals

#

and what they want

steel blade
#

dating is good tho

jaunty ibex
latent edge
#

no

timid bronze
steel blade
#

romance aside dating is a way to learn how to be more likeable

timid bronze
steel blade
#

yeah thats fine?

#

you mean no sex right

timid bronze
#

i meant no kissing or cuddling too

steel blade
#

lol well

timid bronze
#

probably shouldve clarified

steel blade
#

didnt know it was that strict

timid bronze
#

uhh, its not that its strict. its a belief

#

and i see many happy marriages of two muslims

#

u dont need the romance for a successful love life before marriage

steel blade
#

I disagree

timid bronze
#

u can disagree. but do not call the religion strict

steel blade
#

Romance doesnt mean sexual

timid bronze
#

just say u dont believe in it

steel blade
#

So you are misrepresenting a little

velvet dagger
#

So at times I kinda feel like, hey a noticeable percentage of companionship can be found with friends, marriage is a big move that really requires changing how you do everything, and if so many of them go badly (sometimes maybe it's like "Fam you could've seen it coming this was a rationally bad decision" but other times if the person changes from who they were at the start)... Is it almost better I stay in comfort zone? Lately I've been leaning that direction slightly ngl

But then in the other direction I'm like okay maybe you can just be strategic about it and minimize somewhat the likelihood of things going poorly, and then there's a good chance it's great. So yeah idk shrug

timid bronze
#

okay sure i used the wrong word, but my point still stands

steel blade
#

if you have no enthusiasm into loving the other person then the relationship will suck

timid bronze
#

you cant kiss or be physical with them unless ur married

#

according to the quran

#

no, it will not be

steel blade
velvet dagger
timid bronze
#

if that is your belief, very well

#

but do not speak on marriages of islam like that

steel blade
#

???

velvet dagger
#

You're misunderstanding what's going on here lister

timid bronze
#

so are you deltoid

velvet dagger
#

The point is that in Islam, the pre-marriage stage is not supposed to be getting super close yet and is more "Okay let's rationally assess if we think we're compatible for marriage"

#

You're interested in each other, you lay out your ground rules, if we accept and everything is going well, you don't dilly dally, you just go for engagement and marriage

#

What do you mean?

steel blade
#

idk about that

latent edge
steel blade
#

i do know people that have dated muslims and were converted

ocean robin
steel blade
#

its kinda funny imo

timid bronze
#

and lister misunderstood at first

steel blade
#

im not sure

#

i feel like saying its strict isnt too far off

latent edge
steel blade
#

compared to christianity and judaism

latent edge
#

There's a reason why force marriage sucks

steel blade
#

strict in comparsion as it relates to romantic relationships

timid bronze
#

regardless, plenty of muslims r happy in their marriages

barren anchor
#

I don't think people see it that way if they're raised with that culture

timid bronze
#

exactly

steel blade
#

yeah im not passing any judgement about the happiness?

barren anchor
#

I know several people (indians, arabs) who have married via arrangement and they are all happy

timid bronze
#

i just think calling a religion strict is slightly narrow minded, respectfully

steel blade
#

I am impartial as I dont plan on ever dating a strictly muslim so it doesnt concern me

barren anchor
#

they're all grad students and will happily point you to studies on happiness etc (choosing your own partner in more liberal dating societies is not associated with greater happiness)

jaunty ibex
steel blade
timid bronze
#

its all good

fringe summit
#

vro

velvet dagger
#

It's not very far off some branches of Christianity like Orthodox as far as I can tell. But yeah the point about disagreeing on the strictness front here is that it more reshapes the dynamic of what comes before and after marriage

timid bronze
#

saying muslims cheat is crazy

#

lmfao

#

what in the generalization

fringe summit
restive salmon
#

How are the main leads already together it’s eps 3

velvet dagger
restive salmon
#

Something will definitely happen

jaunty ibex
#

I said from my experience. I know muslims shouldn't be doing so

steel blade
#

people are people lol

#

I used to play poker with a dude who was arranged to marry his cousin in Palestine

#

we used to clown him but he took it really serious

velvet dagger
#

I mean... You can make a lot of generalizations and preface this with "in my experience" but the implication is definitely there

steel blade
#

like he really didnt want to do it

jaunty ibex
#

???

#

I wasn't intending to generalize

restive salmon
steel blade
#

yeah i know its common in some places

restive salmon
#

Personally i wouldn’t but yea

velvet dagger
#

Okay let me put it this way Vero. You cannot be surprised that this message sounds extremely sus

barren anchor
#

it's a sus bomb bro I don't even understand what you meant

#

it does make you seem ignorant

velvet dagger
#

"Yeah in my experience Muslims are a red flag" like are we speaking the same language here or are you just completely missing how this comes off?

steel blade
#

probably meant they dont want to date muslims

velvet dagger
#

And even then it's like... Why was that an observation you desired to share?

fresh comet
barren anchor
#

possibly relevant if their experience is they dated some muslims and then whoops guess what you were the side piece and they are already engaged

jaunty ibex
#

If you take it that far sure it sounds sus but that's not my intention. I don't mind dating muslims but that has been my experience so far

velvet dagger
#

Like you're highlighting the Muslimness here

#

You can date whoever you want

#

But when you go out in public and say that

steel blade
#

ye dont state preferences in public

velvet dagger
#

Like it's quite hard for me to believe that this wasn't deliberate

steel blade
#

atleast do it politely

jaunty ibex
#

It's not deliberate. I don't discriminate

#

I'm sorry if it came out this way

fringe summit
#

This does check out with the great conspiracy theory

steel blade
#

tfw its actually Afrikaans for "In my experience Muslims are cool"

velvet dagger
#

Bit difficult for me to assume good faith here. Like normally I'd be taking moderator action right about now just for that message but perhaps I can't quite be impartial given that I am Muslim

barren anchor
#

bury the modlore

#

so it's more precious

#

I'm starting a new job end of month and I'm gonna take a vacation, and the friend I'm going with is lazy about planning and I am medium about it

barren anchor
#

if I take it up to high, I think it'll result in a better trip, but it's more demanding on me now

timid bronze
barren anchor
#

how I fight the short term lazy

steel blade
#

You happy with the job too?

velvet dagger
#

Yeah I'm gonna defer here to the other <@&268886789983436800>

steel blade
#

Not nice lazy friend

barren anchor
steel blade
#

im happy for you even tho ur a stranger to me

topaz mantle
#

good luck with it!

velvet dagger
#

See messages from #serious-discussion message (From Vero, since deleted, said "dating muslims from my experience has always been a red flag")

barren anchor
#

good work building a kind of integrated IDE with a bunch of backend content servers

#

not IDE, just an editor

steel blade
#

ok

barren anchor
#

for writers to consume. But yeah thanks

steel blade
#

i was thinking something like eclipse

barren anchor
#

be happy for me even though I am strange

#

nah lol. It'll be more like a chill version of strapi or contentful

#

it's for building web pages

steel blade
#

cool shit

barren anchor
#

yeah. And I get to work with friend from college so psyched about that

#

it's remote-first but I may move down by him for a bit to just enjoy coworking and living near eachother

topaz mantle
#

oh nice!

barren anchor
#

the full experience.

#

what's crazy is I got it, and then found out that man, I'm kind of connected

latent edge
#

Is Strapi the new brand blazingly fast JS framework?

barren anchor
#

like I got three other positions I'd get expedited consideratino for

latent edge
#

Congrats tho graph

barren anchor
steel blade
#

Expedited consideration meaning they reached out faster?

barren anchor
#

I got a fuckin' network

barren anchor
#

yeah, like straight line between job openings and me. No applying through the routine interface.

velvet dagger
#

She's the only directly problematic person thus far

latent edge
barren anchor
#

more just email that resume and get called

barren anchor
#

I'm hyped for it, I love react (been on it for the past two years)

latent edge
#

I hope that's fun. I don't enjoy react

steel blade
terse comet
# jaunty ibex I'm sorry if it came out this way

I appreciate the apology, but in the future please consider how these things will come across regardless if prepended with "my experience." I am sympathetic if you've have bad experiences, but generalizing to an entire group is harmful to everyone in that group and we are all worse for it

barren anchor
#

It's kind of like if angular didn't suck or if it solid was more ergonomic imo, best I've found so far.

#

it really balances flexibility and state machine bones imo

latent edge
#

hmmmmmm

steel blade
#

Is react that bad to work with?

barren anchor
#

I love it though, probably my favorite front end framework to work with

terse comet
#

If you didn't have a longer standing on the server and did not already apologize, it would not be a mute. If you'd like to discuss it further @jaunty ibex please DM ModMail and we can have a chat there

steel blade
#

Ive only heard complaints about performance and managing the code

latent edge
#

You do get the work done but the cost is you have a lot of stuff you barely use

barren anchor
#

welp managing the code is trivial honestly, I find it hard to believe anybody would find it difficult as it's dumb simple. But the performance can suffer, depends on how you do it. A lot of people just think it has bad performance because they don't understand how it works.

latent edge
#

from the npm install loree

barren anchor
#

if you manage client-side caching and you debounce UI events which alter state high up in the vdom it's great. and it's good to appreciate as well that a lot of the bulk of CPU work goes into rendering, and with react's approach to reconciliation, often all it does is run a couple of components but won't trigger any actual changes to the DOM.

#

I have been building a very complex app with it and the only performance concerns we had with it were all around network optimization.

#

e.g. React wasn't blocking interactions, the network was.

latent edge
barren anchor
#

completely true that it does, in a way, waste computation. SolidJS basically fixes it with signals and imo is the boy to watch in the future.

#

but the react philosophy is don't worry about rendering, which I appreciate. Instead, write your UX to reflect the frequency of updates (e.g. oft-udpated components near the leaves).

ocean robin
#

i leave for 5 minutes

latent edge
#

it becomes a tech talk about react

barren anchor
#

the current problem they face is that there is a massive ecosystem rn built around react and that is itself a major competitive advantage

latent edge
#

yeah

barren anchor
#

guess what discord's built w

#

web app and mobile app

latent edge
#

react

barren anchor
#

ya sun you see any performance issues?

latent edge
#

electr*njs

barren anchor
#

ya boiii

latent edge
#

Yeah I see a lot of performance issues

barren anchor
#

nah it's perfect boi

latent edge
#

no way you said that

barren anchor
#

I actually have been working with exactly discord's stack lol elixir server

#

I did it

unborn meteor
#

hi

ocean robin
#

hi!!

latent edge
unborn meteor
#

vee

restive salmon
ocean robin
#

vee :3

fluid niche
#

what’s your favorite cms

ocean harbor
#

cms?

craggy parcel
#

chainmaw san

latent edge
#

think: wordpress

fluid niche
#

Me like directus breadhehe

ocean robin
#

i dont have a favorite bc i barely know what they are EB_SylveonGiggle

latent edge
#

I like Symmetric (it's a CMS I made)

fluid niche
jagged forge
craggy parcel
jagged forge
#

oh true

#

so it's a person with a sentient maw that is also a chain

craggy parcel
#

wait whats a maw

#

i thought thats like

#

mom or grandma or smth

jagged forge
#

i thought maw was mouth

fluid niche
craggy parcel
#

ohhh

#

okay then suremark your idea makes more sense

fluid niche
craggy parcel
#

right

quasi jettyBOT
#

This channel is only for on-topic discussion. Please take casual conversation to #discussion or #chill.

fluid niche
#

Sorry bot, what do you guys think 1+1 is?

neat lintel
fluid niche
neat lintel
pine laurel
#

guys, why do people only take notes in latex or digital as of late? 😭

#

i miss pencil and paper man

craggy parcel
#

i still do it in pen

latent edge
#

chalk

#

pen

#

latex

#

all 3

true zinc
# fluid niche Latex????
TeX

TeX (), stylized within the system as TeX, is a typesetting program which was designed and written by computer scientist and Stanford University professor Donald Knuth and first released in 1978. The term now refers to the system of extensions – which includes software programs called TeX engines, sets of TeX macros, and packages which provid...

fluid niche
timid bronze
#

july 23 coming up

#

this is the best 1D mashup ive heard

fluid niche
fluid niche
timid bronze
#

(Good, they own a good majority of it anyway)

fluid niche
timid bronze
#

Good question its because life isnt considered completed for me till i witness them live

#

even tho thats never happening

#

Thatd mean i accomplished everything necessary in my life

latent edge
#

philosophy of ally

lyric linden
timid bronze
#

Hbu

#

TYFA btw

lyric linden
#

im glad to hear that, im not doing bad either. also tyfa!!

timid bronze
#

Yes ofc what r u up to rn

lyric linden
timid bronze
timid bronze
#

so now im just sitting

lyric linden
#
'FOUR (Deluxe)'  'Made In The A.M'  'Midnight Memories (Deluxe)'  'Take Me Home'  'Up All Night'

i need to download more albums :3

timid bronze
#

i just got back from playing uno

timid bronze
#

What other artists do u even listen to

#

Idk if i ever asked u LMAO

lyric linden
timid bronze
#

OFC

lyric linden
#

wbu

timid bronze
#

same with maroon 5

lyric linden
timid bronze
# lyric linden wbu

keshi, sabrina carpenter, selena gomez, troye sivan, the weeknd, lauv, seori, chase atlantic, alec benjamin, louis t., taylor swift, i would say r the mains 🤔

#

aside from 1D obviously

lyric linden
latent edge
timid bronze
#

AND TROYE SIVAN IS JUST SO ETHEREAL OH MY GOD

#

he was probs my #2 in middle school

#

and recently im getting very addicted to his songs again

latent edge
#

chase atlantic lowkey good

timid bronze
#

i forgot ab them over the years ngl, but im relistening and am in love

latent edge
#

who's seori

#

let me

timid bronze
latent edge
#

seori feels korean

#

oh yeah it is indeed korean

#

lmfao

timid bronze
#

She is

timid bronze
latent edge
#

no

timid bronze
#

Which ones did u lisrten to then.

latent edge
#

CHXSE

#

HEAVEN AND BACK

#

that's it

timid bronze
#

Ok good choices i approve

latent edge
#

thank u :3

lyric linden
#

why do you need embed permissions in general 2 💔

timid bronze
#

hmm

#

my fav song from chase atlantic would probs be ricochet

lyric linden
timid bronze
#

ya it is

lyric linden
#

it's sooo real

timid bronze
#

Ugh wait lemme think whatd be my fav lauv song thats hard actually

outer crag
#

Welcome to the server @ashen holly

timid bronze
#

my fav lauv songs would probs be for now and who (feat. bts)

#

cant pick one..

#

both tie

lyric linden
#

not from lauv, this is kinda underrated

timid bronze
#

OHH let me listen

#

wait this intro is amazing

#

im already in love

#

LMAO

latent edge
#

Reol, miki matsubara, luna haruna, lisa, yoasobi, kenshi yonezu, Aimer, creepy nuts, MiSaMo, yui, ado, sekai no owari, eve...

timid bronze
#

OMFG

#

STOP IMMEDIATELY ADDING TO PLAYLISTT

latent edge
#

yeah i listen to jp songs a lot

#

I remember more jp bands than english ones

#

Ado can be annoying sometimes

#

but some of her songs are peak

timid bronze
latent edge
#

miki matsubara is classic and PEAK

timid bronze
#

Me love throwbacks

lyric linden
timid bronze
#

@velvet dagger We still need to do a call me maybe karaoke

velvet dagger
#

Lmaooooooooo tru

latent edge
#

karaoke : o

timid bronze
#

the person i did it with is someone i text more than i call ngl and

latent edge
#

mathcord karaoke vc party when

#

:33333

timid bronze
#

they were screaming call me maybe into my face

velvet dagger
timid bronze
#

THEY WENT UP TO MY FACE

#

AND WOULD SCREAM

#

THEN GO BACK

latent edge
#

gg nuked

#

wait check other channels

#

nothing

velvet dagger
timid bronze
#

except i mess up on this one line every time

#

Then had a ménage à trois last Friday night

velvet dagger
#

Oh I remember hearing that song on the radio

naive chasm
#

Cool!

#

How were day

#

I honestly don’t really know what’s that

#

I just feel asleep

obsidian niche
#

Ofodd

#

Drrr

#

R

#

R

#

R

#

R

#

R

#

Rr

#

R

#

R

#

Re

#

R

#

R

#

R

#

R

#

R

#

R

#

T

#

R

#

Rrr

fresh comet
timid bronze
fresh comet
#

are you surprised? holoapple

fresh comet
#

I've sang it quite a few times before, especially in the car during my commute

#

it's part of the mega playlist that my brother, my friend, and I cultivated for our commutes

timid bronze
fresh comet
#

and got kicked out of the bar PaimonProud

timid bronze
#

LMAO

fresh comet
timid bronze
#

Then ur gonna duo that song with me

fresh comet
#

I've sang quite a few 2010s songs by now

timid bronze
#

Except not at home if my parents hear any sort of shots being taken pop gonna open my neck

fresh comet
#

I love singing with my brother and friend

latent edge
#

take shots of BEEEEEEEEEEER

#

im gonna be disappointed if u dont know the reference

#

u two

timid bronze
fresh comet
#

pikathink ?

timid bronze
#

Thats in the song

#

Skinny dipping in the dark

fresh comet
#

yeah

timid bronze
latent edge
#

wow im actually disappointed

fresh comet
#

it is in the song, what about it?

latent edge
#

do u know it higher?

timid bronze
#

Idk i just think u singing over it would be funny

fresh comet
#

I don't think I know the reference, no

timid bronze
#

LMFOA

fresh comet
#

OH

#

I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANT

timid bronze
#

Idk its just a song idt ud sing

#

.

#

U DONT KNOW WHAT

#

SD MEANS?

#

LMFOAOOOOO

latent edge
#

you dont know bill nye chinese version?

fresh comet
timid bronze
#

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

fresh comet
#

I THOUGHT IT WAS SOMETHING MORE TAME

timid bronze
#

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

fresh comet
bronze pelican
#

ALL I WANNA DO IS TO DO YOU RIGHT

latent edge
timid bronze
#

tHATS WHY I THINK U SINGING THAT SONG IS FUNNY

fresh comet
#

I JUST FOUND IT CATCHY

timid bronze
#

WELL YES IT IS CATCHY ITS NOT LIKE I DO THOSE THINGS EITHER BUT

#

U OF ALL PPL

fresh comet
#

well

timid bronze
#

I DONT MEAN THAT IN A BAD WAY BTW

fresh comet
#

you know what

#

issok

#

it's a song lyric

latent edge
#

yamin do u like bourbaki style

fresh comet
#

so it's fine

timid bronze
fresh comet
#

I'd have to look at the mega playlist again

craggy parcel
#

be my bad boy be my man
be my weekend lover but dont be my friend

#

no i dont need you again

timid bronze
craggy parcel
timid bronze
#

Im a 2010s music lover girlypop

craggy parcel
#

yeah 2010 had some bangers

timid bronze
craggy parcel
#

idk if its just like. part of getting older but newer songs sound like they were made in a lab. and not in a good way

craggy parcel
#

by uhhh

#

idk

timid bronze
#

i. just miss 2010 songs bruh

#

im still adding to this playlist

craggy parcel
#

real asf

timid bronze
#

but these r all the songs i found nostalgic

craggy parcel
#

@fresh comet poke

#

can i add you on spotify

latent edge
#

wtf esca has the stupid wilted flower tag too

#

typo on ;wil is such a 🥀 moment

#

it fits

craggy parcel
#

it fr is

timid bronze
#

the tag

craggy parcel
#

oh

timid bronze
#

I wish i could have more tags at once

#

Id def get more T_T

craggy parcel
#

real

latent edge
#

miki matsubara tag would go fire

craggy parcel
#

i like her songs

fresh comet
# timid bronze tell me *now*

I can say for sure that we've sang songs like Starships, Firework, Good Time, Whatever It Takes, Clarity, and One Last Time in the car

latent edge
#

omg finally someone knows miki

#

now i can die

fresh comet
#

there're a couple dozen others that I can't recall off the top of my head now

timid bronze
#

OMGG ONE LAST TIME AND CLARITY THO

#

UR SO REAL

fresh comet
timid bronze
#

YESS

fresh comet
#

we do sing it

#

if we go down, then we go down together giggle

craggy parcel
#

chasing relentlesslyyyy

timid bronze
#

can i be invited to that car ride pls

craggy parcel
#

thats the only part i remember

latent edge
#

bro i remember one time I was talking with my friends and they all were like talking about taylor then they asked me what songs I liked and legit nobody knew a single singer

#

NOT EVEN MIKI

#

WHAT THE FUCK

timid bronze
craggy parcel
#

okay i know 21p stands for 21 pilots but i always think its 21 pence

latent edge
#

21p fire

timid bronze
#

nah but like

latent edge
#

peak

timid bronze
#

a lot of the 2010s songs like

#

see you again

fresh comet
timid bronze
#

I see that song as so sad now 😭

#

or we dont talk anymore

timid bronze
#

we dont talk anymore hits diff now

fresh comet
fresh comet
craggy parcel
fresh comet
#

but it's a good song c:

timid bronze
#

i love see you again its a song i NEEDED at my hs grad party

craggy parcel
latent edge
#

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

#

IM SO TEMPTED TO NUKE THIS

timid bronze
#

i have a friend who is a rly good tap dancer

#

idk how they do it.

#

i asked him teach me

craggy parcel
#

dancers are so cool

fresh comet
latent edge
fresh comet
#

my friend loves TWICE, so it's loaded with their music giggle

craggy parcel
#

im embarrassingly uncoordinated so i have a special respect for dancers

tawdry stratus
tawdry stratus
#

Because You saturated Sight –
And I had no more Eyes
For sordid excellence
As Paradise

craggy parcel
#

i wouldn't be surprised

tawdry stratus
#

lots of poets wrote ab love tbf

craggy parcel
#

shocking

tawdry stratus
#

i’ve always loved whitman

latent edge
#

esca do you know reol?

craggy parcel
craggy parcel
latent edge
#

yoasobi?

tawdry stratus
#

wait i think the trivial answer might be byron

craggy parcel
latent edge
#

based

craggy parcel
tawdry stratus
#

love poems

latent edge
#

tfw i keep reading whiteboard as whitehead lemma

tawdry stratus
#

although i tend to dislike these romanticism love poems

craggy parcel
#

oh i see

latent edge
#

dis u whiteboard

naive chasm
deep mango
rocky shuttle
#

sounds like something from a science fiction catgiggle

rocky shuttle
craggy parcel
#

sick

naive chasm
#

I need to wash my room

#

But have no power

#

/ study

#

But no power for that either

deep mango
deep mango
#

im never rude @ally

timid bronze
#

INAPPROPRIATE

deep mango
#

its nkt inappropriate i didnt even say dick

timid bronze
#

Ok what else do u mean by dingle

craggy parcel
#

LMAO

timid bronze
#

Like his tailbone ?

rocky shuttle
#

wow rycrude

timid bronze
#

Thats just as bad

craggy parcel
timid bronze
#

JUST WHAT ELSE WOULD HE EVEN MEAN

deep mango
#

i meant dick i just didnt say it

#

its not inappropriate i just wished violence on him

#

ur so odd

timid bronze
deep mango
#

btw esca it was because i think that emote is gross

timid bronze
#

So u deserve ur mute

deep mango
craggy parcel
#

i just thought your photos were cool 🥀

timid bronze
#

Im not explaining jus use ur physics brain 🥀

#

Except throw some psychology in there

#

I jus t wanna see u muted anyways

#

PUNISH RYCC

craggy parcel
#

dami is enjoying a normal sleep schedule while we're crashing out on discord

velvet dagger
#

(Un?)fortunately no

#

I was just finishing wordle

timid bronze
#

Dami.

#

Punish ryc

#

He said smth inp

craggy parcel
#

oh

#

right i forgot damis sleep schedule is worse than chipotles

timid bronze
craggy parcel
timid bronze
#

Saying his sleep is worse than chipotles

timid bronze
velvet dagger
#

Anyway @deep mango much as Ally's calls for your punishment were likely in jest imma need you to think a bit whether these are things that ought to be said

#

Considering the setting

timid bronze
#

Oh yes it was in jest

velvet dagger
timid bronze
#

I just need him to be muted like flux and chipotle

deep mango
#

ok

#

Sorry dami

#

Sorry esca

#

And not sorry to ally who had nothing to do with this

timid bronze
#

Wow i deserve a sorry for not hearing me

deep mango
#

Deserve

craggy parcel
deep mango
#

Alright

timid bronze
#

Good idea

craggy parcel
#

right

velvet dagger
deep mango
#

This is how esca slides into dms

craggy parcel
#

mods watch and learn this is called entrapment

timid bronze
craggy parcel
#

i just get a thrill when someone insults me

timid bronze
deep mango
deep mango
#

E in probability stands for expectation

timid bronze
#

Oh

deep mango
craggy parcel
#

which means suremark and dami had a child together on average

craggy parcel
deep mango
#

i lost that survivor game ive been playing for over a month

#

i got to the final 3

#

and then the jury gave me 0 votes opencry

#

im still second, everyone voted for one person

#

who tbf was an incredible player

craggy parcel
#

thats crazy

deep mango
#

but i was also good

craggy parcel
#

jury doesnt know the art of reality tv

#

unanimous votes are boring and bad content

#

you need a dissenting opinion

deep mango
#

but the jury was SUPER mad at me because i was a total dickhole, betrayed everyone, got into several fights, etc

craggy parcel
deep mango
#

i was like the villain of the season

#

it was so fun

#

anyway ya i spent the whole day getting called cocky and egotistical and stuff

timid bronze
#

Cause nobody knows you baby the wayyyyyy i do

errant zenith
#

Good morning everyone

craggy parcel
#

imagine how exciting it would be if the villain got one or two votes

craggy parcel
deep mango
#

but

#

it also exciting for my ally to win unanimously

#

cuz she was really good and a unanimous win is very impressive

#

especially against another good player like me

errant zenith
craggy parcel
timid bronze
#

goodmorning astrophysicist

timid bronze
craggy parcel
#

/j.

deep mango
#

anyway, it was fun, but now a lot of my survivor friends are checking in on me and making sure im not sad lol

errant zenith
deep mango
timid bronze
deep mango
#

i was a fucking animal

#

i came up with so many insane lies

errant zenith
craggy parcel
deep mango
#

i would have invited people here to watch

#

but its very very important i didnt get any outside info / leaks

#

and i talk to you all too much for that to be totally 100% avoided

craggy parcel
#

if i watched i would feed you bad info

deep mango
#

hilariously raien watched and after i invited him he blocked me like a few days after

#

but he still watched anyway

craggy parcel
deep mango
#

if you told me anything i would block you until the game was over, real or fake

craggy parcel
#

LMAO

timid bronze
timid bronze
#

Would u not wanna be told that either

deep mango
#

actually

#

wait what

#

i dont get it

timid bronze
#

Idk i thought channels where ur like rooting for certain ppl would be hidden

deep mango
#

anyway i did a little flirting with one of the viewers perhaps

timid bronze
#

At least it was for my friend

#

.

timid bronze
#

Yes so

#

What if u had a crush and

#

they were rooting hard for u

deep mango
#

i wouldnt want to know anything

timid bronze
#

would u not wanna know

#

XD

deep mango
#

no

timid bronze
#

Ok

deep mango
#

i would find out after

#

i want the game to be fair

timid bronze
#

After they lose feelings for u

deep mango
timid bronze
#

LFMAOOFHJDK

#

well

#

people will lose feelings eventually

#

if they feel like its going no where

deep mango
#

you think im gonna make sure i bag them before the game is over

timid bronze
#

I would..

craggy parcel
#

this could be a movie

deep mango
#

its not even real me playing that shit

errant zenith
#

Do u guys ever argue w yourself in ur head

deep mango
#

its like

#

a supervillain character

craggy parcel
errant zenith
#

What game is this

craggy parcel
deep mango
craggy parcel
#

i talk to myself so much

deep mango
errant zenith
timid bronze
timid bronze
craggy parcel
#

i mumble to myself in private and sometimes in public

errant zenith
timid bronze
#

my mom things im crazy and need help

timid bronze
errant zenith
deep mango
timid bronze
#

suremama birthed u and esca last night out his womb

craggy parcel
#

i have a penthouse right ally

timid bronze
deep mango
#

esca and i would not be brothers

errant zenith
timid bronze
#

ryc had the alleyway

craggy parcel
craggy parcel
deep mango
timid bronze
errant zenith
craggy parcel
#

WHAT DID YOU DO

deep mango
#

pings dami, omg hes being inappropriate!@@

timid bronze
errant zenith
craggy parcel
timid bronze
#

Omg so true

#

Bye guys it was nice knowing u

craggy parcel
timid bronze
#

Time to pack and meet chipotle and flux ig at the end of the bus stop

latent edge
errant zenith
timid bronze
#

but hey he booted a racist

errant zenith
timid bronze
#

Respect

errant zenith
#

Tone indicators are good

timid bronze
errant zenith
#

xD

latent edge
#

see ally understands me

#

good job

errant zenith
#

That’s good

timid bronze
#

When i speak in caps

#

Like breh do u think im shouting at u

craggy parcel
#

i want a cat

latent edge
#

car

errant zenith
#

Car

noble peak
#

greetings

craggy parcel
#

car

noble peak
#

Car

errant zenith
craggy parcel
#

hi makeitsafe

latent edge
#

I need a car too

#

I love when cars meow meow at me

#

:333

errant zenith
#

I’m so sleepy

timid bronze
craggy parcel
#

k gn

timid bronze
#

Like do ppl actually take this serious when i speak in caps

errant zenith
#

Water

noble peak
#

We must learn car distribution system

errant zenith
#

Before sleep

timid bronze
#

Aint no one k'ing me to sleep

#

Say ok gn

latent edge
#

Why do you have high expectations of TikTok videos 😂

noble peak
#

exactly 😂

errant zenith
craggy parcel
latent edge
#

I love how okay gets more rude as you reduce the amount of letters

timid bronze
errant zenith
timid bronze
craggy parcel
#

that was way more rude than "k gn"

timid bronze
#

😭

#

I only understand caps if its like to add emphasis to a word

#

But like if ur srs or mad? Breh

noble peak
#

More feelings to it

errant zenith
#

How else would they show if they’re shouting then

craggy parcel
#

im playing though gn sweet dreams everyone

timid bronze
latent edge
#

If I'm serious I'd be more careful with my grammar.

errant zenith
errant zenith
noble peak
timid bronze
latent edge
noble peak
#

car

noble peak
#

Fire

errant zenith
#

I’m so sorry

#

Skeepy*

#

sleepy*

noble peak
#

eepy*