serious-discussion

[jaunty ibex]

It is better

[velvet dagger]

My chemistry is slowly returning to me

[wise bloom]

Ideal gas equation?

Yea I have read that too

[jaunty ibex]

I made a horrible decision to do my masters in NA Waterloo

[wise bloom]

Like the vanderwall one

Right ?

[median knot]

Ohh 😲

[solid yarrow]

Only for ideal gases though

[wise bloom]

Ofc yes

[timid bronze]

My calc 2 class averaged a 50% on the final

😂

[latent edge]

Ideal gas? I only know ideal class groups

[solid yarrow]

Deltoid ahh moment

[jaunty ibex]

Good one lmao

[solid yarrow]

[median knot]

Nvm 😂😂

[agile fiber]

the difference between physics, fluids, and thermo is whether the ideal gas law is $pV = n\bar R T$, $pv = RT$, or $p = \rho R T$

[fathom swallow]

cloud

[velvet dagger]

Ideal gas groups study the failure of a gas to satisfy PV = nRT

[timid bronze]

I too was humbled dw

[latent edge]

Z[i] has trivial ideal gas group

[agile fiber]

maybe $p\bar v = \bar RT$ if you're like that

[fathom swallow]

cloud

[velvet dagger]

In my undergrad algebra class that percentage was an A-

So hey

[timid bronze]

OK THATS UR ALGEBRA CLASS

NOT CALC 2

[velvet dagger]

Your calc 2 was no walk in the park either

[agile fiber]

i took a chem class where a passing grade was like a 50

[ocean robin]

still above average‼️‼️

[latent edge]

if that makes u better i got 50/100 in chem 1

[timid bronze]

Still 😢

[timid bronze]

Ig

[timid bronze]

Oof

[fresh comet]

I will never forget my first ever math test in uni

[latent edge]

why yall laughing lmao

[timid bronze]

i feel the pain

i mean

i cried seeing that score (my score)

[latent edge]

I got 98 on orgo tho

[timid bronze]

thats rly good

[ocean robin]

real

[solid yarrow]

Me neither. I failed it.

[agile fiber]

i got a 50 on my circuits final

[hallow plume]

[velvet dagger]

Allyyyyy you did good fr

[fresh comet]

the worst part is that the professor told many people to drop out of her course afterwards

[latent edge]

My DE grade:

[ocean robin]

that was me w my first 2nd year physics exam, i think i got a 30?

[median knot]

Alright imma head to bath, see ya guys :D.

[fresh comet]

have a nice day Nat

[timid bronze]

I moved on but its still frustrating though because i didnt want to end up with the same exact grade

[median knot]

You too 🫶🫶

[wise bloom]

Gaussian distribution

[timid bronze]

I mean im glad i got the same grade not worse than calc 1 but still

[latent edge]

WHAT IS FUNNY WITH ME SHARING MY GRADES YALL SICK HEADS

[fresh comet]

my DE grade was 100% based on my final, and somehow I didn't bomb it

[timid bronze]

Challenge failed of getting a better grade

[velvet dagger]

My first big humbling in math was in my first quarter of second year, I got smth like 87/200 on the final

[latent edge]

I felt pain everytime I went to that class

[velvet dagger]

Which was below average

[latent edge]

oh my god I still hate the engineering department to this day

[timid bronze]

oh dang

[ocean robin]

real

[velvet dagger]

From talking to people they were like oh you'll get an A- at least since you had a very good grade on the midterm

[timid bronze]

i thought u got an A

[latent edge]

I DID

[timid bronze]

diff eq right

[velvet dagger]

But then no, the midterm didn't factor into the final grade, so I got a B

[solid yarrow]

Deltoid and DE now in cinemas :3

[timid bronze]

Ohh

Ya ur smart

[velvet dagger]

And even my other classes that quarater

[fresh comet]

I'm not longer afraid to share my test scores for the main math course I took this year

[latent edge]

It was the most stupid A I got in my life

[pure hollow]

Engineering department is fun if you want to be miserable

[timid bronze]

so real

[fresh comet]

these scores badly affected my mental health and perception of my ability for a while

[timid bronze]

OMG DAMI

[velvet dagger]

I got a B in CS even though I thought I did well, somewhat above average. Turned out they just hard curved to a B, you had to do a fair bit better than average to get even a B+

[timid bronze]

DO U REMB THAT ONE NIGHT I WAS SO STRESSED AB MY CHEM LAB REPORT

I STAYED UP TILL LIKE 5 AM

[agile fiber]

my circuits professor claimed to the class that the central limit theorem implies this is a gaussian distribution

[latent edge]

At the beginning I realized I had to use noggin to get through DE but the ideal way was shut off noggin and use divine intuition

[twin flicker]

what class is this?

[velvet dagger]

And then my "Classics of Social and Political Thought", along with my "Multiscale Modeling of Biological Systems" both got B-

[fresh comet]

but now I'm confident enough in myself to believe that it was okay to stumble

[velvet dagger]

I think that was my worst quarter in undergrad

[velvet dagger]

O H RIGHT I REMEMBER

[timid bronze]

that day i was seriously considering of killing myself

[fresh comet]

multivariable analysis, following Spivak

[ocean robin]

i think my worst fumble ever was getting the worst score in the class on my complex analysis midterm

[fresh comet]

I feel like I remember this too? or was it a different instance

[fresh comet]

oioioi

I do not approve

[pure hollow]

Terrible score fraud honorable get better (I think you are doing great higher keep it up )

[timid bronze]

omg 😭

[fresh comet]

in all seriousness though, I'm really glad you're still here 🤍

[latent edge]

There were several times where I thought of dropping my courses

[timid bronze]

wait i dont mean it like that

i say that but i like

[wooden falcon]

I’m sorry for the scores. But hey, you’re still in the game. Can still potentially recover from this (if the prof will work with you).

[timid bronze]

never try

[velvet dagger]

Actually my worst fumble was sending the wrong statement of purpose to 4 grad schools during grad apps

[timid bronze]

dont get me wrong

[pure hollow]

~~me everyday ~~

[timid bronze]

😭

[fresh comet]

I ended up getting a 78 (B+) in the course

so it was okay

[ocean robin]

i also seriously considered doing it honestly

[wooden falcon]

Nice!

[velvet dagger]

Yeah Ally uses that phrase the way I do where it's like, would never act on it but at times think "Ugh can I just get hit by a bolt of lightning rn"

[fresh comet]

icic, okie

[ocean robin]

lots of fumbles in my math career

[timid bronze]

:(

[latent edge]

one was me in computer architecture. The prof just gave up teaching us and I had to pull good old YT indian videos to get through the class

[pure hollow]

That rarely does the job tbh

[latent edge]

holy shit that was miserable

[fresh comet]

rough >.<
never forget that you are capable, Tabby

[ocean robin]

i dont want to bleak

im just being honest

[timid bronze]

the issue w my chem lab report was that i originally wrote it in latex (which i alr struggled with) but once i finished the lab workers misspoke and told me they dont want pdfs rather docx so i had to rewrite my ENTIRE lab report on a google doc

bc i couldnt just copy and. paste

i haad symbols

or chemical formulas

[velvet dagger]

Yeah that was so annoying

Their instructions weren't clear

[fresh comet]

my DMs are always open if you need to let out some steam
remember that you are appreciated and loved

[latent edge]

next one was graph theory. I got 70 or something on the first midterm and thought of dropping it off. Many did drop it off but I kept with it and got a 94 at the end

[velvet dagger]

Since one place seemed to indicate pdf was fine

[ocean robin]

oh i also got one of the worst scores on my first real analysis exam

[velvet dagger]

But I think when you were about to submit

[ocean robin]

i got 3.2 points better than the worst

[fresh comet]

it was actually better than the course average, so I'm very satisfied

[wooden falcon]

In my OS class I got a 31.3% on the final exam and wanted to die. Shit happens.

[ocean robin]

which is now why i hate suprema

[agile fiber]

requiring word documents over pdf for any type of assignment is just really dumb honestly

[pure hollow]

I will always hate chem for giving me the biggest headaches

[timid bronze]

yea

[wooden falcon]

The averages on exams were regularly in the 40s

[hallow plume]

fr

[latent edge]

last one was representation theory and lie algebra. First midterm class average was 4%. Literally everyone dropped except for me but somehow I ended up with a 87 so that was ggs

[hallow plume]

[timid bronze]

Lmao me making dami read my abstract of my lab reports so he could tell me if it makes sense to him 😂

[wooden falcon]

we got not much of a curve, but barely was enough for me to pass.

[velvet dagger]

Hahaha, hey it's fun to remember what chemistry is like

[agile fiber]

thankfully my intro chem classes didn't want to pay their tas to grade a bunch of lab reports so our "reports" consisted of entering our data and derived calculations into an online grader

[fresh comet]

extremely dumb policy

[velvet dagger]

In another life I was definitely a chemist, it was my favorite subject for a while before physics started to kick in

[fresh comet]

infuriating

[wooden falcon]

it’s a test for linux users

[velvet dagger]

And I still big time liked chemistry even then

[pure hollow]

It only gives me agony

[wooden falcon]

try to weed them out

[timid bronze]

Well i didnt expect u to to understand the science more like does it make sense to a non scientist

[jaunty ibex]

4% is crazy

[timid bronze]

and btw abstract i mean introduction not abstratc oops

[jaunty ibex]

That's some waterloo level shit

[velvet dagger]

Yeah tru, which it did!

[ocean robin]

oh lmao i got a 10/100 on my 4th quiz in intro to proofs

[pure hollow]

Can't have linux users can we

[wooden falcon]

The one writing class that required word docs I just used libre writer and it worked happily no issues.

[timid bronze]

ikr but its for plagarisimdim reasons to like scan for it pdfs dont work

[velvet dagger]

I wasn't big on labs which is what ruled out chemistry and molecular engineering as major choices

[fresh comet]

if it makes you feel better, I got many 0s on my ODEs quizzes this year

[velvet dagger]

But honestly chemistry was a vibe

[fresh comet]

sad

[velvet dagger]

And I'd like to learn a lot more eventually

[fresh comet]

in another life, I was a physical chemist

[ocean robin]

yeah but my school is like an elementary school compared to yours, and you also had that shit professor

[agile fiber]

there are still other word processors which can export to doc e.g. libreoffice

[latent edge]

in another life, I was a musician

[neat quest]

Instructors often require written works to be composed on Google Docs as all actions are recorded in “version history”, which can affirm the legitimacy of your work.

[pure hollow]

In another life,I would be bleakposting less

[velvet dagger]

SAME

I think I gave this huge list of things that feel hype to learn

[ocean robin]

oh wow i got a 55% in intro to proofs and got a C somehow

[latent edge]

SOLDIER NOW LOCK IN AND WORK ON COMPLEX ANAL

[wooden falcon]

Oh thank the gods no profs required that

[fresh comet]

I don't think it's fair to compare like that
I prepared terribly for those quizzes, and they're now a reminder for me on how not to study for an assessment

[junior veldt]

hellllllllo higher

[timid bronze]

in another life i work when i want to and raise kids n they behave well

[velvet dagger]

Maybe this life

[wooden falcon]

woah Pseudo in discussion 👀

[latent edge]

pseudo hiiii

[fresh comet]

hello Pseudo (did I get the spelling right? )

[scarlet siren]

Don't steal my joke

[latent edge]

hi rando

[agile fiber]

i had a prof who wanted us to show that we had revised our essays but was too lazy to check the version history so we had to do all of our revisions in suggestion mode

[ocean robin]

ignore me i'm just rattling off every fumble i've had, i also prepared shittily bc that was the first proofs i had ever done

[junior veldt]

yes you can check against my discord username lol

[pure hollow]

Hello pseudo long time no see,how's PhD treating you?

[scarlet siren]

hi

[junior veldt]

hiii deltoid!

[agile fiber]

google docs hated me for that

[timid bronze]

Omg im so cold but i dont have anything warmer to wear

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/remilia-scarlet-touhou-cat-gif-27547611

[junior veldt]

I often talk here but not in #discussion

[jaunty ibex]

Stop sending this omg

[wooden falcon]

indeed

[latent edge]

It's cute tho

[fresh comet]

the important thing is that you've shown lots of signs of growth!

I'm proud of how far you've come c:

[junior veldt]

convergence! good to see you, phd is going a lot better recently :D

[wooden falcon]

quite active in #category-theory and maybe a #theoretical-cs future 👀

[twin flicker]

how are u cold in summer

[junior veldt]

how about you?

[timid bronze]

its been raining a lot here

[fresh comet]

@ocean robin

[latent edge]

@jaunty ibex are u considering a phd in waterloo btw

[junior veldt]

my activity in #category-theory is kinda infamous at this point

[jaunty ibex]

FUCK NO

NEVER

😭

[fresh comet]

it has been for a year

[latent edge]

[ocean robin]

i guess, just very very very very very late growth

[junior veldt]

wait why a year

[pure hollow]

I am slowly but surely learning analysis (finally) so you can imagine how it's like

[wooden falcon]

I’m not Vero but waterloo seems pretty rad

[junior veldt]

ah yeah analysis is pretty difficult..

[jaunty ibex]

rad?

[wooden falcon]

it likely will be another 2 years or so before I apply to grad schools though

[fresh comet]

you were notable even a year ago :p

I saw others mention you, at least

[velvet dagger]

Oof, yeah earlier you mentioned changing out of a sweater and I was like damn it's colder today?

[jaunty ibex]

Girl if anything UofT is a better choice

[wooden falcon]

It’s really cool.

[scarlet siren]

no

[junior veldt]

“notable” is a, uh, kind way to put it :P

[fresh comet]

but growth nevertheless
be proud of yourself!!!!

[timid bronze]

yea its been raining a crazy ton

[wooden falcon]

They’re also on the list.

[pure hollow]

I don't see any growth in my case but iss okie

[wooden falcon]

My main desire is quantum computing atm though sooooo yeah.

Ofc Waterloo is on there.

[timid bronze]

I think i should make another friendship quiz

Except throw even harder questions

😂

[wooden falcon]

Though UT seems much friendlier to US people applying than Waterloo

[jaunty ibex]

1 more year and I'm out of this fucking miserable uni

[pure hollow]

Ooh I do wanna do qcomp soon

[scarlet siren]

I have heard vaguely similar things

[ocean robin]

i dont either in myself honestly, like at all, but if ppl think i did then i'll just accept it instead of fighting it

ooh i wanna go back and look at my physics scores

[pure hollow]

Yeah fair

[wooden falcon]

qcomp

oh dear

[latent edge]

qcomb is cool

you have quantum groups

which come up in NT

[junior veldt]

quantum combinatorics…?

@.@

I need to learn about quantum groups

[latent edge]

I got invited to take a course on qcomp many times but I keep rejecting

[jaunty ibex]

lowkey based

[wooden falcon]

Oh I wasn’t thinking of that. comp in recent times has mostly come up in one context recently. Composition for paths. So cubes will satisfy the kan filling condition. The main version used is a homogeneous version called hcomp.

[jaunty ibex]

If u do it will only be a matter of time till you go to waterloo

[latent edge]

I'll go there

[jaunty ibex]

Actually mentally ill

[timid bronze]

No more talking about math or universities. Winner gets nitro

[ocean robin]

0.5/10 on a quiz in elementary special relativity and quantum 💀

[wooden falcon]

A quantum univalent dependent type theory

Would be wild

[fresh comet]

I'm gonna get 0 and be outed as a fraudulent friend

[latent edge]

I wont lmao im not applying in Canada or US for grad apps

[wooden falcon]

or linear HoTT perhaps

[jaunty ibex]

BASEDDDD??!?!?!

[velvet dagger]

AHHHH

[wooden falcon]

staying away from US is wise at this juncture

[latent edge]

Well I'd win

[pure hollow]

I have come terms with the fact that I'm a fraud.

[timid bronze]

Guessed 1 of the majors i had in mind of doing in uni as a junior in hs

[timid bronze]

How.

[wooden falcon]

It is not safe here.

[timid bronze]

U BARELY HAVE BEGUN TALKING TO ME

[latent edge]

I know a lot

You should be scared of me.

[timid bronze]

And explain how you know a lot.

[jaunty ibex]

ok this is scary

[latent edge]

look up right you can see a search bar

tadaaa!

[wooden falcon]

I took it as an undergrad. So worth it.

[fresh comet]

[timid bronze]

Hm, the questions I'd put would likely not be on here

[latent edge]

you talk here a lot with dami and higher

[timid bronze]

More in DMs mainly!

[latent edge]

ok fair but I still got 10

[timid bronze]

Someones my fan

[latent edge]

[timid bronze]

Tysm for fanboying me

[junior veldt]

you mean “Nah, I’d win”

[latent edge]

exactly

you get it pseudo

[junior veldt]

just try not to get bisected~

[timid bronze]

Anyway stream 2010s

[latent edge]

I am eating kitkat as we speak

[timid bronze]

But yes let me make that quiz

[pure hollow]

Is this a case of Jjk brainrot or have you actually seen Jjk?

[junior veldt]

Yes

[jaunty ibex]

I feel like deltoid is already popular here some people might be a fan of him/look at him as an inspiration

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/gintama-gintoki-gif-23945774

[pure hollow]

Woah my condolences

[junior veldt]

why condolences lol

[timid bronze]

well the quiz is gonna be a bit hard

[twin flicker]

falls off hard after culling games

[timid bronze]

i dont even expect dami to get a high grade

@velvet dagger

[jaunty ibex]

In all seriousness I don't think anyone cares

[timid bronze]

He he

[velvet dagger]

Oh that's EVIL

[latent edge]

I'm not getting 10 yall

[timid bronze]

Told you

[latent edge]

unless I guess correctly

[timid bronze]

Who do you think i am

I can be complicated when i need to!

[velvet dagger]

What are you on about?

[latent edge]

I do

[pure hollow]

https://tenor.com/view/gintama-anpan-gif-18005440

[latent edge]

ok but that's evil ally

make it more fair

plweeeese

[agile fiber]

failing your friendship class is a surefire way to tank ur gpa

[timid bronze]

Ok but this isnt ab perfection

:3

More get-to-know

[latent edge]

true

[agile fiber]

unfortunately the prof decided to make it a weeder class

[latent edge]

ok ill purposely get everything wrong then

[pure hollow]

Apply yonneda lemma to curve the grades gg

[timid bronze]

Heeehehehe

[latent edge]

idk this

[timid bronze]

Good

Hm maybe ill throw an easy one

[velvet dagger]

Tyty

[tall badge]

@velvet dagger https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=960Cli0ysGQ

[timid bronze]

Ok quiz is almost ready thanks for staying patient my audience

[velvet dagger]

Ooo

[timid bronze]

Ok

I made it

Go do it

I will admit its hard

But thats the point

I have some easy qs tho

wait actually i worded a question wrong

Oopsie

DONT TAKE!

[velvet dagger]

Oopsies

[timid bronze]

https://bestiefy.com/q?=d2Qv5

Ok go take this one

ok in an ideal world pretend i put "ed" at the end of want

🤦‍♀️

[fresh comet]

I am a fraud

[timid bronze]

LMAOOO

[fresh comet]

I will now resign myself from the title of ally's friend

[timid bronze]

Its ok im not expecting good results

I havent said these things!

Noo

Stop

[timid bronze]

wait heigher dm me the fear

higher

[fresh comet]

I didn't know

I don't even have a guess

[timid bronze]

ok so we have cheaters

[fresh comet]

who the heck are these

[timid bronze]

Nvm i cant consider yalls results now if ur just gonna be cheating

😢

Ok the trolling is just getting annoying

Sorry yall i cant consider ur results now if u got high ones.

[old oak]

"Discord celebrity" is certainly a concept

[latent edge]

bruh cant sleep wtf

[latent edge]

yay

[timid bronze]

do u need a bed time story

[twin flicker]

lowtiergod bedtime story

[timid bronze]

@latent edge @velvet dagger

Can u promise u two didnt cheat

[latent edge]

[timid bronze]

Except i will say

Dock 1 point for deltoid for getting the fear question incorrect sadly.

[latent edge]

I still win (so far)

[timid bronze]

True

[velvet dagger]

I promise I didn't cheat

[timid bronze]

Deltoid you havent promised yet..

[latent edge]

I promise too

[timid bronze]

Okay

Dang

[velvet dagger]

I will say a lot of the ones I got right were less me knowing about you and more psychoanalyzing the questions

[latent edge]

SAME LOL

[timid bronze]

These boys know me

[latent edge]

i did a lot of analyzing in the numbers question

LMFAO

[timid bronze]

If u really find it that fun ill consider making another hard one

Maybe more numbers

Not now tho

That took sm thinking

omg u two did some analysis in my dms with the number one

fr

deltoid esp

Im like Wtf.

[latent edge]

sorry

I just like problem solving

[velvet dagger]

Did he get that one right?

[timid bronze]

Im scared yall can guess my social security number

Yes

[timid bronze]

Why sorry i thought it was cool

[latent edge]

:3

[timid bronze]

Anyways go to bed

Both of u

[latent edge]

show scores of everyone

how many participated

uhh i can view that myself ig

[timid bronze]

There are a lot of trolls.

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I have a conjecture about the trolls

Given the nature of the names

[timid bronze]

I should quiz u all a different way..

Maybe via voice chat

[velvet dagger]

It was probably a certain chopped shyt

[timid bronze]

Hehe

[latent edge]

VC quiz :3

[latent edge]

[velvet dagger]

VC quiz would be interesting

[timid bronze]

Ya u both will finally get series of questions wrong in a row

Jk but regardless im surprised by the score

[velvet dagger]

Yeah open ended would def be harder than multiple choice

[timid bronze]

oh no ill still make it multi choice

Just make sure.. U cant loop other attempts

😌

[velvet dagger]

Truly it was a bit of psychoanalysis. I'll say in DMs so no spoilers out loud

[latent edge]

just let me do a website for quiz

well assuming i get enough motivation for this cuz i hate designing websites

[timid bronze]

U are NOT making a whole website just for a quiz like that

[latent edge]

its not a WHOLE website

[timid bronze]

OMG ITS ALMOST 3 WHAT

I ENED TO BRUSH MY TEETH TF

[latent edge]

i did that

i just need to sleep now

[timid bronze]

Ill send u a vm bed time story of numbers

[dreamy ore]

yooo im 3rd

[timid bronze]

yea good job u got curved down

[dreamy ore]

im not 3rd i got 3/10

who tf did the quiz as shiru

who is that

who is fake shiru

[timid bronze]

Gn

Me sleep now

[dreamy ore]

gnn

[velvet dagger]

Good night Ally!

[latent edge]

gn ally

[toxic oasis]

whyd i think it was good to take calc 1 in the summer

im so cooked

[fresh comet]

have a wonderful night ally

[mint sail]

https://www.quantamagazine.org/years-after-the-early-death-of-a-math-genius-her-ideas-gain-new-life-20250303/

Take that !

[weak prism]

yo

uzbek

[mint sail]

Algeria or France

[weak prism]

Uzbekistan

[neat lintel]

Uzbekmisiz?

[weak prism]

Ha O'ZBEKMAN

Sizchi?

[fluid jolt]

Yooo

Wazzz up

[weak prism]

Yo

[green goblet]

Heyy

[neat quest]

Greetings.

[hard light]

Hello

[rocky shuttle]

Hi

[jagged pendant]

Hi

[flat smelt]

hello

[tender heron]

-# hi

[wise bloom]

hi

[ocean robin]

-# hi

[craggy parcel]

hi

[ocean robin]

hi esca

[neat lintel]

Hi

[ember sage]

Hi

[sonic sentinel]

the insane fucking thing about llms is that some obsessed randos here and there on the internet probably have way more understanding about how popular llms work (as in, what characters the llms are trying to emulate and how those characters are shaped by the model's architecture) than the people in the ai companies

openai released a model version like what was it a month two months ago where if you (pretended you) were having a psychotic episode it would be like wow you have great ideas good job going off your meds

there are probably a shit ton of people on the internet who could have foreseen issues like this after interacting with the model for a few days, the problem is openai has no idea what they're doing

[velvet dagger]

The tricky thing is, OpenAI knows about how to implement, and they'll have a QA team

But there's this joke about QA engineers

A QA engineer walks into a bar and orders a beer.
They order 2 beers.
They order 0 beers.
They order -1 beers.
They order a lizard.
They order a NULLPTR.
They try to leave without paying.
Satisfied, they declare the bar ready for business.
The first customer comes in an orders a beer. They finish their drink, and then ask where the bathroom is.

The bar explodes.

For something huge, okay you know you've got all this insane volume of input data, and you know you have your transformer/whatever other algorithmic inputs to the model

You won't guess a priori how it'll respond to any given prompt or other

When you pressure test the model, you'll try to see how it responds to various things and make sure nothing too yikes is going on

I wouldn't be surprised if they don't even imagine testing the words of someone having an episode

[sonic sentinel]

the problem isn't that openai somehow doesn't have the "creativity" or "imagination" or whatever to come up with the idea of putting in the words of someone having an episode, its that they don't have the knowledge/intuition/skills/whatever to lead themselves to those problems when interacting with the model

if they did any amount of sane interaction with the model, like talking to it about their day or something, they would have realized "why is this model always trying to suck my dick", they could have continued from there

[sonic sentinel]

non-chatgpt user has more red

[velvet dagger]

I wouldn't be surprised if the glaze was somewhat deliberate?

They're like oh hmmm people will like it more if chatgpt is super positive toward them! :D

[sonic sentinel]

i don't think they even thought that deep lol
probably was just like "hmm lets train it on user feedback"

[verbal quest]

so Martians don't have chatGPT
that's why Elon wants to go there
give Grok a competitive advantage

[sonic sentinel]

"wow the people we're paying 2 dollars an hour to are saying the model's responses are better, ok now lemme try ordering every imaginable number of beers"

[vivid halo]

other way around

[vivid halo]

people who rely on LLMs are actual lobotomites

[sonic sentinel]

you could also just see humans as human instead of "actual lobotomites", really not that hard

[vivid halo]

you

[sonic sentinel]

sometimes yea

but i don't see snark as something correct or desirable

[cyan goblet]

Waaaaah I dont know how to think critically and find things on my own so I need chatgpt to do it for me wasaaaaah

[sonic sentinel]

i try to ocassionally(idk the spelling) remind myself that if i'm surprised by how others behave, that just means i don't understand them well enough

i try to occasionally remind myself that if i'm surprised by how i behave, i don't understand myself well enough

[sonic sentinel]

this isn't the problem with chatgpt

[vivid halo]

this is one of many problems

[sonic sentinel]

i don't think "finding things on your own" is an important enough skill to warrant attention
i'm not learning much useful by typing what i want to find into chatgpt versus google for about the same reason i don't learn much useful by going through settings manually versus typing what i want into the settings search bar

there are a few different interpretations of what "finding things on your own" here means but ehh

[latent edge]

[sonic sentinel]

critical thinking is a skill that can be eroded in a number of ways by chatgpt, but like

[twin flicker]

i dont know of anyone who uses gpt mindlessly

[sonic sentinel]

?

[twin flicker]

well i meant that like idk how gpt would erode someones thinking skills

[hardy iron]

I torture ChatGPT to gain dopamine

[sonic sentinel]

its way more complicated than people think it is. i think most use cases are innocent in this way

[sonic sentinel]

yeah

[sonic sentinel]

i wish i was less boring in high school, i always just agreed with whatever my friends were saying in basically any discussion because i thought whatever its four years and i just wanted to get through with this without being seen as weird or nonconforming

i love my snarky takes :3

[desert token]

I hate permuations and combinations math

so much

[latent edge]

Ok

[twin flicker]

why

[desert token]

for years it really did feel like the math I did in school always changed up the rules as soon as I got the hang of it

and permuataions and combinations is where it feels like that the most

[latent edge]

Can you elaborate on this?

[desert token]

to simplify it: It feels nearly impossible to tell the difference between a permuation and a combination related math problem

it's annoying

[vast wraith]

one is ordered, the other is not

[desert token]

the way the questions are worded make it hard for me to tell

it's gonna be satisfying as hell once I finally master this though

[desert token]

is there any advice you can give me?

[mint patio]

hiii anyone follow pokemon?

[upper osprey]

anyone want to study calculus together?

[timid bronze]

Understand the difference between the two, when theyre applicable, and keep on practicing

That's the best you can do

[visual topaz]

It is a problem, we'll start seeing the effects of it soon on current-generation-taught people. And I'm pretty sure we do

[visual topaz]

There's lots of schoolers who GPT for homework, when the point of homework is for them to do it

[dreamy ore]

@timid bronze

[timid bronze]

hi

[timid bronze]

making chatgpt write any email for them

[dreamy ore]

lmao discord is so fucked

[dreamy ore]

i just pinged u for no reason

[timid bronze]

hi

[dreamy ore]

hiii

hru

[timid bronze]

Goood wbu

[dreamy ore]

good too ig

its too hot

[fresh comet]

oof yeah

[craggy parcel]

fr

[fresh comet]

we just had a heat wave for 4 days

and it was really annoying

[timid bronze]

here has been raining a crazy amount now it is randomly hot

[fresh comet]

I hope SK cools down

[timid bronze]

not excessive but its very warm

stay cool over there

[fresh comet]

make sure to drink enough water!!

[queen bobcat]

Exams weed out GPTers

And who cares if they graduate high school

They're not gonna make it through college 😂

[dreamy ore]

damn

the weather forecast here isnt fun

[velvet dagger]

Brutal

[craggy parcel]

the issue with gpt isnt on an individual moral basis, its more of a systemic thing. if people gpt their way out of stuff then you have an overall less educated population, which isnt good

[queen bobcat]

They probably weren't going to do very well in the first place

[craggy parcel]

i dont think thats true

part of maturing academically is being forced to do hard things on your own, even if you dont have the maturity to do it on your own will at the time

but if you make a habit of taking the easy way out, it messes you up for a long time

[wise bloom]

yo

[storm sage]

Yeah I think we already have a problem of coddling students too much (at least in the US), and GPT is making it easier than ever to take the shortcut route on every assignment

[tight copper]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1080590780416143490/1192829813019385886/1192826680830607360.gif

[tender heron]

Dudeee, I had that too. But only 1 day, like, you can't escape. You'll always get wet, inside outside, doesn't matter. The humidity goes crazy

[dreamy ore]

lmao

[sonic sentinel]

ive been seeing a lot of cheating before chatgpt, its become more but the scale is like 80% cheating -> 95% cheating

has someone done a survey on this

[visual topaz]

I mean, even before chatgpt, there was wolfram for integration problems

and the homework gatherers

Once it passes the "I can submit this", people just do

[granite hedge]

👍

[neat lintel]

hello

[craggy parcel]

yeah. i mean there are plenty of people who are very well educated and intellectually powerful who would have opted for gpt in school (citation needed), simply because a lot of people realize the value of an honest education only after theyve had it. we still make kids go to school even if they hate it, and for good reason. so i dont agree with the idea that people who use llms are lobotomites or whatever, many of them just havent had a chance to exercise critical thinking in academics. maybe they were convinced they couldnt do it, maybe they were never shown how.

a lot of intellectual laziness is learned helplessness because people think theyre too "dumb" or whatever

when in reality they werent afforded the appropriate tools

one of these tools is being forced to think for yourself

[warm umbra]

welcome to the server @left void

welcome to the server @lost marsh

[left void]

Thank you

[brittle socket]

So... the sun still rises?

[unborn meteor]

people at 70°N rn:

[true zinc]

Should we be allowing students to learn that the hard way though? What I mean is, with less LLM's, Googling, etc..., students would be forced to critically think on their assignments, no short cuts, etc...; but with the way the system is right now, I must ask, what is the benefit of letting them figure out how much they lost after the fact?

[craggy parcel]

nothing, thats what im saying

[true zinc]

Ahh, I think I misinterpretted your original statement at first

sorry

[craggy parcel]

nw

[manic shell]

I think this depends on the person tho. Wanting an easy way out doesn’t have anything to do with llms and it’s not “new” in any way either so,

Like someone told me “just llm bro” for some PDEs and I was like nah. I’d rather ask a person

[junior veldt]

sure but a lot of this is down to how easy that way out is

[manic shell]

But what we do about it

Like

I’m not saying nothing should b done idk what

[thick ocean]

LLM stuff honestly feels like a scourge on people's ability to think critically because of how it's marketed

Ultimately, most people use it as an advanced search engine, but accepting the output uncritically can be incredibly bad

You gotta be able to check what's being typed out

[rocky shuttle]

Same as a normal search engine

[thick ocean]

Yes, except it looks and acts more like a human instead of a library listing

So people automatically trust it more

[wicked mirage]

LLMs help a lot with online exams

[solid snow]

looking at answer keys does too

[jaunty ibex]

Do you happen to be a cs major as well?

[wicked mirage]

Yeah I am lol

No shame in that

Just trying to survive and LLMs help me with getting over the online exams

In-person ones suck because I have to memorize

[solid snow]

this again

memorize actually learn the material

[wicked mirage]

I don't want to lol

It puts me behind in the competition

[latent edge]

I just opened discord

cs doom rant

[wooden falcon]

it’s all too easy

[twin flicker]

omg really

no way

[jaunty ibex]

Deltoid cs slander when

[twin flicker]

u reminded me i have to do 1 more lc medium today wth

[latent edge]

[barren anchor]

man being in your thirties sucks ass, I don't think I can watch movies anymore, they hit too fucking hard and being longer-form they inspire a kind of thoughtfulness which demands appreciating the perspectives represented. I am both the misbegotten child searching for a father and the father, I am the person discovering a talent and the guru, I am the oracle who saw it all coming and the supplicant forewarned. It's fucked up, we must be the most sympathetic viewers on average.

[tender heron]

[dreamy ore]

huh?

[wary dagger]

fuck did I just read

[cyan goblet]

Omg like that Hemingway book

Which is a very good book

[jagged pendant]

racism

[barren anchor]

just the truth bro, that's a state people have that is not often appreciated, the between-time. Before your forget your naivety, before you forget that you're learning.

it's fucked up because I thiiiink movies tend to instill totally different responses in youth / adults, maybe split like under 25 / over 35, but if you fall in the middle ground you fully, immediately connect to both

I get huge feels where they are targeted to the younger crowd, and huge feels targeted at the over crowd, and it's like wtf this is too much feels

I think the solution to level out my feels is simply to forget my youth

[mellow prism]

Hello

[sullen dagger]

what resource is the best for learning algebra 1

[cyan goblet]

Khan Academy

[brittle ferry]

brilliant if u wanna pay

its better

[fresh comet]

@mellow prism @brittle ferry welcome to the mathcord!

[brittle ferry]

yolo thanks @fresh comet

[timid bronze]

@latent edge

[latent edge]

NO

[deep mango]

is anyone out there attracted to roblox

[latent edge]

no

[deep mango]

huh

[random void]

What are electrolytic cells?

[vast wraith]

what

[flat dome]

yes i am attracted to roblox characters

[tawny quail]

What

[twin flicker]

u heard him

[waxen iris]

U need therapy bro

[timid bronze]

stop simping roblox phoenixes

[lunar ruin]

We have very different experiences. Which movie did you recently watch that made you type that out?

[dreamy ore]

wth ryc

[ocean harbor]

that's shinon

[shadow cosmos]

I use it to play piano

[wheat iris]

i play

[desert token]

That’s what I’ve been doing

I’m confident I’ll master it by my next session

And if not I’ll just keep going

[deep mango]

not ME

[astral bay]

random question - what is a good pencil for taking math tests that involve a ton of writing and possibly erasing? something that would erase very easily.

[wheat iris]

idk

[haughty lion]

Your exams allow pencils?

[astral bay]

lol yes, do yours not?

[haughty lion]

No

Nothing that can be erased

I think its a very German thing though

It was never a problem when I was in still in school (in finland)

[raven plaza]

Mechanical pencils are nice

[astral bay]

i've taken like i dont even know how many college classes, maybe 150+ credits in the US, and i've never once had an exam where we didn't use a pencil, discounting a couple online classes

[astral bay]

yeah i used them, but sometimes i feel like the graphite they came with isn't too good

[astral bay]

like when you write for a while and it just starts to get kind of lighter and hard to read?

[raven plaza]

You need better lead

[astral bay]

ok, recommendation?

[raven plaza]

I just picked a random one at a bookstore

That was back in middle school

[astral bay]

haha ok

[true zinc]

Pens FTW, pencils aren't that good IMO

[astral bay]

what about for proof writing?

[vivid halo]

just don't make mistakes

[astral bay]

oh come on

everyone makes mistakes

[vivid halo]

skill issue

idk I use pens for everything including writing proofs and writing computations

[astral bay]

no thanks

[true zinc]

Unironically this

[astral bay]

i mean yeah ideally

[true zinc]

I just end up using lots of scratch paper, but still; it makes you aware of what you write

you have a limited amunt of ink and no erasing; make it count

[astral bay]

i actually do the same thing

[vivid halo]

just use scratch paper you can make mistakes on scratch paper and it doesn't matter

yeah

[astral bay]

so for a test, just dont start writing out the proofs until you think you got it for sure on the scratch paper?

[true zinc]

Except on exam day lots of my exams have silly scratches everywhere

[vivid halo]

if you screw up a word here and there on the actual paper it's fine to just cross out a word here and there

[astral bay]

i know it's just annoying

[vivid halo]

yeah but it still looks better than pencil

[neat lintel]

What is the difference? I translated and its just the same thing

[vivid halo]

looks better than erasing

[astral bay]

eh

[neat lintel]

I get qalam for both

[true zinc]

A pen has permanent ink, pencils can be erased and use a graphite tip

[neat lintel]

Ohhhhhhhh

[jagged forge]

when you've erased a paragraph 6 times and your paper is starting to lose structural integrity

[iron nimbus]

well technically, that depends on your eraser

[true zinc]

Yeah in Hindi/Urdu too we also say qalam for pen/pencil

[neat lintel]

We use the word Qalam
which is like the pen with ink for callipgraphy

yee yeye

[true zinc]

me last week

[astral bay]

for sure, this does happen

[astral bay]

wait i thought you just used pen???

[jagged forge]

i did kinda get tired of filling up notebooks with useless scribbles though

now i have an e-ink reader

[vivid halo]

if you have to erase a paragraph 6 times you probably shouldn't have written those paragraphs in the first place

[true zinc]

Most of the time yes, but I had to use a penci; on my theory of comp final last week because I forgot my pen at home

actually, I got so lucky

[astral bay]

i like my wacom tablet for doing math, but can't use that on an exam

[true zinc]

because I ended up erasing and rewriting a single proof five times

[jagged forge]

https://tenor.com/view/99-percent-of-gamblers-gif-434871090499708776

[true zinc]

so uh...if I had a pen I'd have been fucked

[astral bay]

more reasons not to use pen

[true zinc]

No, it's just a skill issue on my part

[vivid halo]

pencil is awful for anything that needs to be archived

[true zinc]

ng do you think it was a skill issue that we needed to rewrite a proof that much

:P

[vivid halo]

yes

[true zinc]

okay good

my paper was blackened and tearing a bit by the end of it all

[vivid halo]

lmao

ideally this should not happen!

[true zinc]

Yes

[vivid halo]

lol when I took qualifying exams you were always supposed to like

use scratch paper to write a proof with mistakes

[true zinc]

this is my handwriting btw

My prof probably cries when grading my shit

[vivid halo]

and then just rewrite it cleanly without all the mistakes

otherwise you will probably lose points or the grader will hate you

[cyan goblet]

Ur prof doesnt make u submit latex?

[vivid halo]

latex is even better

[true zinc]

oh this is for the bi-daily quizzes

[cyan goblet]

All of my profs make us use latex

[true zinc]

The quizzes are on the spot, on paper

[vivid halo]

avoids all of these issues entirely

[cyan goblet]

Ah

[astral bay]

i always submit latex for homeworks

[thorn wren]

lance handwriting

[iron nimbus]

I mean, it's not that bad tho, I can read it without too much uhh, struggle

[vivid halo]

but yeah for exams you can't really use latex lol

[cyan goblet]

So then just handwrite the latex what lol

Duh

[thorn wren]

A friend had someone submit solutions like this

Like they physically wrote \cup

[true zinc]

BUH

[astral bay]

i type out latex in emails to my prof

[true zinc]

LMAO WHAT

[cyan goblet]

Anamono handwriting

[thorn wren]

Orz

[cyan goblet]

Yea that’s crazy

[cyan goblet]

This isn’t too crazy I do it too and so do my profs

[true zinc]

I need to improve my handwriting

[astral bay]

for archiving, just take a pic and then upload to gemini, tell it to convert to latex

[cyan goblet]

Lost me at gemini

[thorn wren]

this is fairly standard

[true zinc]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/1100453652117860363/1377670962857644132/20250529_113158.jpg?ex=68620551&is=6860b3d1&hm=7663f12eca1c7a56e5cd771f0bfa0cf2def710839bcb2dc05136994927aee7a1&=&format=webp&width=932&height=700 how is our board handwriting so much better

it's not amazing but hopefully legible

[astral bay]

very nice!

i like the giant halmos

i saw a book that used smiley faces everywhere there should have been a halmos/tombstone for proofs

[true zinc]

@fresh comet uses an Eevee for his halmos box

[astral bay]

@true zinc i thought about doing something like that for a homework as a joke, but then i thought, what if i got some wrong? then it would just look dumb

[true zinc]

I mean, your proofs aren't always going to be perfect; if you make a mistake, you will be corrected, simple as

[cyan goblet]

Lol I remember my first year before I knew how to use latex very well

I submitted my lin alg hw as just the pdfs from whatever app I used on my ipad

[true zinc]

loooool

[cyan goblet]

And each assignment was like 60 mbs

[true zinc]

mbs?

[astral bay]

oh thats awful

[true zinc]

ohh

megabytes

[cyan goblet]

Yeah

He was like “i cant open this it wont download”

[true zinc]

BUH

[cyan goblet]

So I had to run it through a compressing website every time

Then I learned latex and life was good

[iron nimbus]

you are forced to write slowly because the board is upright?

maybe?

[cyan goblet]

I dont think boards being upright is a big issue for handwriting speed

[true zinc]

Oh I write fast, not as fast as on paper, but still quite fast, notice how I tend to write in this semicursive where some letters flow into eachother

[cyan goblet]

Ive been to some talks where they just outright scribble on the blackboard

[thorn wren]

I just write
\textbf{Quite Easily Done}

[cyan goblet]

And u can make out like 3 letters per word

[astral bay]

i like that

[iron nimbus]

well maybe just that little decrease was enough

[true zinc]

A very fun issue we've been having recently is forgetting the difference between an i and j

I always write my i's slightly hooked to the right but I keep forgetting j goes to the left

[iron nimbus]

reminds me of a joke: QED stands for Quod Erat Demonstratum "that was demonstrated." We can write instead, "Quod Errat Demonstrator:" in which the demonstrator makes a mistake

[true zinc]

This shouldn't be happening, I'm a native english speaker and writer and never had this issue before

[true zinc]

LMAOOOOOOOO

[cyan goblet]

I have trouble when I have to write like “mi” or “ni” or stuff

I usually miss one or two of the squiggles in the m

Same for “ui” the dot for the i ends up on the end of the u

[honest junco]

Hello how can I get the math Tag

[true zinc]

go to settings, profiles, scroll down, select the tag from the dropdown

[thorn wren]

imagine wearing a tag

[iron nimbus]

I would cut it off from my shirt, but usernames are a different story

[astral bay]

google's AI?

[cyan goblet]

Yeah

[astral bay]

if you upload a picture of a handwritten page to it, it can write a nice latex document for you. it's great for archiving stuff

it may not get it completely right, you may have to go back in and edit a few things, but it's suprisingly good at it!

i'll usually write up a homework by hand, and then do this before i turn it in

[rare lichen]

you can turn in the image of it hand written. It's probably fine to use AI to have latex-ify it, as it's just tedium

[timid bronze]

@deep mango

Do u have free time today

I want to see how u do on this roblox game

[twin flicker]

roblox

[timid bronze]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjwqfYxs/

This is the game

[deep mango]

sure, now i do

[timid bronze]

UM i cant do rn

Pls wait for me i wanna play with u

[deep mango]

i have time all day

[timid bronze]

Oki

[deep mango]

but i meant before i was supposed to go to the pride parade today

and now im not

[velvet dagger]

Ryc worried that pride cometh before the fall

[timid bronze]

Is funsies

(most of the time no)

[rocky shuttle]

how did you decline?

[raven plaza]

June indeed comes before autumn

[deep mango]

got angry and shouted and locked myself in my room

and then came out and apologized later, but still not going

i have been feeling very very nasty all day

[rocky shuttle]

uhh I'll give you the benefit of the doubt here

I didn't know it's that dramatic

[deep mango]

it was the 15th time i was asked about it

and was after i directly said "i do not want to talk about this anymore, im not talking about it anymore"

and "im just going to spend the day in my room"

and in the 5 minutes i spent preparing food it was brought up again with another possible plan

[rocky shuttle]

what's wrong with them

[deep mango]

he thinks hes helping

[deep mango]

it wasnt, i wasnt even stressed out about it until yesterday night

or the night before or something

i dont know what happened

[rocky shuttle]

I hope you'll feel better soon

[velvet dagger]

OKAY NO

[astral cliff]

For what

[latent edge]

[velvet dagger]

SHARP MESSED ME UP THERE WAS A PHOTO OF A CAT

THEN HE DELETED IT

[wheat iris]

...

[cyan goblet]

hi ryc

[deep mango]

thanks, i will either later today or tomorrow

[cyan goblet]

"omg this guy has my message notifications on"

shut up ryc

i don't

[timid bronze]

i have the receipts dami

[velvet dagger]

OKAY NO THAT WAS MODIFIED AS WELL

YOU LITERALLY HAD A DIFFERENT MESSAGE IN THERE

[rocky shuttle]

what's in your banner?

[timid bronze]

yeah yeah

keep talking

[cyan goblet]

see now what was he saying sounds good to

the idea of taking a shower

or the idea that someone stink af

[velvet dagger]

THAT'S JUST NORMAL

[rocky shuttle]

dami~chan

[latent edge]

[timid bronze]

i have a lot of my friends named that

[velvet dagger]

Why are you naming your friends dami-chan?

[rocky shuttle]

Hi new here, I'm dami~chan

[velvet dagger]

At least replace dami with their actual name

[timid bronze]

thats what i mean

stupid

Oops except suremark

[velvet dagger]

LMAO

[deep mango]

finally someone is getting back at dami for cropping messages

[rocky shuttle]

ryc~chan

[jagged forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dragon-ball-dragon-ball-z-anime-raining-vegete-gif-17856093

[timid bronze]

i have more fr

[deep mango]

ok this made me feel a little better

[latent edge]

[timid bronze]

I have the furry one of u

So u cant escape exactly either

😆

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/remilia-scarlet-touhou-cat-gif-27547611

[rocky shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/remilia-scarlet-sandwich-bread-gif-27510375

[timid bronze]

where did u even come from

U just popped out of no where

when ur name was mentioned

Do you lurk this channel

[latent edge]

mogumogu

[jagged forge]

i check most channels every so often i guess

[rocky shuttle]

remilia

[timid bronze]

Oh

[latent edge]

Remy so girlboss

Upon the witnessing

[timid bronze]

do u MIND

[wheat iris]

?

[latent edge]

It's such a good save gg

[craggy parcel]

im rotting so hard today

[timid bronze]

oh ok u wanted to buy this u said

[timid bronze]

in bed?

[latent edge]

LOOOL

:3

[craggy parcel]

in my chair. nothing is making sense

[latent edge]

Rack noggin

[timid bronze]

oh r u okay

[craggy parcel]

yes im fine lol just a tad lethargic

[latent edge]

Is it just usual bedrotting

[timid bronze]

understandable

[craggy parcel]

how are yall doing

[deep mango]

hi esca im doing badly too

[timid bronze]

im alr

i find sundays so boring icl

[latent edge]

I got a really bad burn

[timid bronze]

r u okay what happened

[timid bronze]

i hope ur situation gets better

[latent edge]

Throat burn

[craggy parcel]

sorry to hear that ryc. hope your day gets better

[timid bronze]

do u mind me asking how

[deep mango]

its not really bad i just made it bad for no reason

[craggy parcel]

real

[latent edge]

I ate food right after u left

[deep mango]

im fully under my cover in bed typing with one thumb

[craggy parcel]

uh oh is it really serious

[latent edge]

I had to search some shenanigans to reduce it cuz it really sucked couldn't even sleep properly

[timid bronze]

im sorry

hope u feel better

[latent edge]

I do but it's still kinda there just less severe

[cyan goblet]

that's cool. im laying on bed with my feet on the headboard on my tummy typing on my laptop

[jaunty ibex]

Hope u feel okay

[wheat iris]

ya

[timid bronze]

ngl sometimes when im on my mac i position myself rlly badly when im on bed

idk how to explain it but like

im sitting down right w my legs crossed and my entire back is arched like a shrimp 🦐

No wonder why my back hurts after a couple hours being on my mac

☠️

[velvet dagger]

Oof

Yeah posture is important

[cyan goblet]

i'm hitting this pose rn

[timid bronze]

I just have a bad habit of not maintaining posture when im sitting casually

[latent edge]

New nickname "Silly Shrimp" :3

[craggy parcel]

ive been trying to fix my posture

[latent edge]

Same

[craggy parcel]

it takes a lot of focus

[latent edge]

Gym exercises help

[timid bronze]

real

[latent edge]

Just do a lot of pushups

[timid bronze]

Meanie

also ppl call me weird but

ngl in class i like sitting w my legs crossed on a chair

even at the dinner table

ITS COMFORTABLE

[velvet dagger]

The way I often sit is one leg out and one leg crossed, often underneath it

[latent edge]

Crossed legs on chair is okay tho?

[timid bronze]

No i meant like

criss cross apple sauce

is rhat even the way to describe it

[latent edge]

just show pic

[velvet dagger]

That's how people called it in Texas

In NY we called it sitting like a pretzel

[timid bronze]

Of my legs..?

[latent edge]

No lol

[craggy parcel]

criss cross applesauce

[latent edge]

A stock image

[craggy parcel]

is how i know it

[timid bronze]

the horizontal lines r my feet

[latent edge]

That sounds like a recipe

[craggy parcel]

i hated that name

[timid bronze]

not the cross where u like

put one leg over the other

i sit on a chair like im sitting on the floor

[craggy parcel]

pretzel is still worse though sorry

[timid bronze]

if that makes sense

[velvet dagger]

I just call it sitting like a pretzel. Criss cross apple sauce is common enough you'll see it on Google images