serious-discussion

[velvet dagger]

But yeah based on that I get a few vibes. I think the internet has made it much less rough to be a nerd nowadays

[timid bronze]

No thats diff

[junior veldt]

i mean for me I think they were just overly masculine in a way I couldn’t relate to (which looking back was obviously dysphoria but I didn’t know at the time)

[timid bronze]

school sports teams ppl

and like

[latent edge]

oh

oh my god

[velvet dagger]

If you were in elementary school in the early-mid 2000s, being called a nerd was the catalyst for bullying

[timid bronze]

the more popular ones

[latent edge]

I hate that

i have a lot of traumas from school sports to the point I just stopped doing sports altogether

[timid bronze]

o yea the ones in my hs were hardcore racists icl

[velvet dagger]

And I think this was true for a good block of the late 20th century as well

[junior veldt]

Interestingly enough this wasn’t my school experience

[timid bronze]

even the POC were racist to themselves

and their ppl

[latent edge]

I gotta love playing soccer just to see the kids kicking and smashing your head and the ball is like 3 meters away waiting to be kicked

cuz the ball is your head not the ball itself

jesus

[velvet dagger]

Oh huh, when were you in elementary? (Also are you American? What I talk about is a bit of a US phenomenon (or at least I can only comment on the US))

LMAO the send and delete, that was funny

[junior veldt]

I’m 23 and bri’ish

[latent edge]

23?

[junior veldt]

Yes

[latent edge]

why do i feel like im behind now

[junior veldt]

huh…?

[quaint spoke]

how old are you Deltoid?

[timid bronze]

hes 13

hes rly young

[latent edge]

21

[quaint spoke]

lol

[velvet dagger]

Ah okay, yeah I wouldn't be too surprised if the situations are fairly different given 5 years later and the UK

[quaint spoke]

I'm 34

you're ahead of me

[timid bronze]

i thought u were my son

[junior veldt]

ok then why would you be behind

I mean I guess you’re younger than me if that’s what you mean

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I think behind in the race to reach 50 years old first

[junior veldt]

you are indeed behind in the race to the grave

[timid bronze]

daily reminder dami is 8 years older than me and he dms me the corniest jokes in dms

[latent edge]

no it just seems like i got to uni pretty late

i mean i did

[velvet dagger]

I mean when I was in NY there was less of that tbh but that's because we were split up by academic level starting from 1st grade

[junior veldt]

Ah ok, what year are you in?

[latent edge]

rising 3rd

[junior veldt]

rising…?

[velvet dagger]

But elementary school in Texas? I was definitely othered somewhat hard for being academically inclined

[latent edge]

next sem i will be in 3rd

[junior veldt]

Ah ok cool

Seems fine idk

[velvet dagger]

And I think the latter seemed closer to the typical experience of a nerd in American schools at that time

I'M NOT A SIMP THAT'S A NORMAL THING TO SAY

Ah, sorry about that fam

[junior veldt]

yeah that really sucks :((

I had to do my PhD remotely for a few months cause of depression stuff recently

[velvet dagger]

I mean you're not particularly behind even so for what it's worth. If you hadn't said anything about being behind and just told me your age and where you're at, instinctually I would've said "Yeah that sounds right"

[junior veldt]

mhm mhm

also u know waaaay more maths than me lol

who’s behind here exactly :P

[quaint spoke]

why are you all worried about this so much at your age

[latent edge]

idk i just feel like out of place sometimes in uni

[junior veldt]

yeah that really sucks :((

[quaint spoke]

you have so much time ahead of you

[junior veldt]

I know the feeling

[latent edge]

well around students, not around profs

[junior veldt]

I felt v behind in uni

[velvet dagger]

Darn. I mean yeah I will say, globally you're definitely in the typical age range

[junior veldt]

not just maths-wise but, like, life-wise

[velvet dagger]

Like with how many people start school at age 6, either because their parents waited a bit or because their birthday falls in a certain part of the year

[junior veldt]

mhm, yeah

[velvet dagger]

Or with how many people take some time off

Etc

[latent edge]

well ig you could say it is definitely better now in uni since people with all sort of ages come here

[junior veldt]

yep

[velvet dagger]

But yeah 20-21 is the super typical zone I expect for third year undergrads

And then on top of that I don't think people really bat much of an eye if someone's even a fair bit older than that age range

[latent edge]

one time my prof asked me why i knew all of these math when im so young and i was like "i never felt young in my life lol" then he was like

[junior veldt]

oh no…

I think I’ve felt young all my life

[latent edge]

but fair enough ig

thanks for letting me know

i appreciate it

[velvet dagger]

I think I alternate. As a kid I often felt older, now I feel younger

[novel shell]

I used to feel fairly young until i stopped being a teen

And i feel like i should become more adult now

[latent edge]

btw how do u guys feel about essays in schools

[junior veldt]

i found them very difficult

[velvet dagger]

Hmm... I think a lot of people don't really write in that format afterwards

But there are some skills that you learn from that which are hard to replicate

[junior veldt]

mhm, true

[novel shell]

Ugh hated them

Fine yes it is important to learn how to express ypurself in paper

[velvet dagger]

Maybe specifically the 5 paragraph format is a bit of a meme. And probably most people after uni never really write very many formal written defenses of a given position

[latent edge]

I didn't like them mainly because the topics weren't interesting. They say the topics are supposed to be interesting for students but I didn't find them interesting at all lol. It was the same story with my peers

Yeah the 5 paragraph format is a meme

[velvet dagger]

But the ability to make claims and support them with evidence, consider and rebut counterclaims

[quaint spoke]

schools impose a lot of stupid crap and they teach you very little about how to think or learn

[velvet dagger]

That feels valuable

[latent edge]

The topics I was required to write about NOW seem interesting to think about

[velvet dagger]

The issue is that they try too much to make it algorithmic/industrial yeah

[novel shell]

I felt like the requirements were stupid, it has to be this length it has to include this and this and everything must be formatted correctly

[latent edge]

Do maybe the target audience was university students LMAO

[novel shell]

Gave me much anxiety

[velvet dagger]

I think they imagine that oh consuming media is fun so essays about media will also be fun!

[latent edge]

Yeah lmao

The topics were too political. I get it politics is important but it's too much lol

[velvet dagger]

Oh it wasn't like that for me tbh

[novel shell]

Funny thing is i liked writing my english essays way more than my finnish ones

[quaint spoke]

"your paper had extremely fallacious arguments and dehumanizing reasoning but you get an A because you followed the structure. timmy's paper was epistemologically sound but his extended eight paragraph argument had to be given a C because he didn't follow the rules"

[latent edge]

Sounds about right

[novel shell]

I liked philosophy bc we often got to have discussions about topics

And defend the arguments

And learn to think

[velvet dagger]

I found a paper of mine from 8th grade LMAO

"the master of Gothic writing" ffs 13 year old Dami why are you like this

Oh my God this is actually so corny

[quaint spoke]

I learned philosophy mostly through trauma processing lmao

[velvet dagger]

Barely even saying anything

[junior veldt]

my philosophy enrichment class was awful

[velvet dagger]

Just a lot of yapping

[junior veldt]

it turned me off from philosophy for years

[novel shell]

Oh you should see all the lengths i went to for the word count

[velvet dagger]

That's unfortunate. My first encounter with philosophy was a tiny bit of it in my "theory of knowledge" class during the IB program last couple years of high school

[novel shell]

Maybe better to not see it actually

[velvet dagger]

Honestly that started to get me interested already. It was more of a glorified critical thinking class than it was an epistemology class but still

Thinking about things like that was fun

Then my humanities course first year of college was absolutely incredible

[junior veldt]

glad you had a better experience of philosophy than me :)

[novel shell]

Yes

[velvet dagger]

As was social science second year, though humanities first year def left a stronger impact by far

[quaint spoke]

you both had it better than me

I promise you

[latent edge]

I looked at my old writings vs now. The ones I got A in it are so cringe I wanna die

[novel shell]

Philosophy should be more about critical thinking

[velvet dagger]

Tbh this wasn't even inflated for the word count or anything, like you can see it's extremely short

It's just

Idk I feel like I'm just saying a few things

[novel shell]

It’s also a very important skill to learn, one that schools should teach more

[velvet dagger]

Like wow the setting in which you write things is important

Whodathunkit

This author does this with setting and sets this mood

That author does that

Kbye

[quaint spoke]

they should teach it from the start

[velvet dagger]

Like wtf kinda point was I trying to make

[quaint spoke]

epistemology is extremely important

to everyone

[velvet dagger]

I agree

[quaint spoke]

btw Daminark idk if I screwed up my roles, I'm tired and discord was acting weird about the access so I had to redo it a couple times before it started working properly

I did want postgrad access but also undergrad cause I need to brush up on that

[velvet dagger]

So typically you don't have both roles. If you qualify for post grad you have access to the undergrad roles implicitly, even without the undergrad role

[quaint spoke]

that's fine

I don't care about the role just the channels

it just didn't show up properly at first

[velvet dagger]

Ah okay. I will say to get postgrad there is an application process to determine if your math level is at least approaching that of a math graduate

[quaint spoke]

I got a dm survey that had three questions

[velvet dagger]

Yee exactly

[quaint spoke]

I didn't really talk about my math coursework but it was extensive

[velvet dagger]

Your answers to that survey will be evaluated and that decides whether you get the post grad role

[quaint spoke]

I can clarify stuff if needed

[velvet dagger]

That would be ideal actually

[quaint spoke]

I had multivariable calc, diffeq, linear algebra, prob&stat, bayesian stats, discrete math, some AI/ML theory, computational complexity, computability... uh other stuff I don't think I need to be exhaustive

cryptographic theory

[velvet dagger]

I guess from discrete if nothing else, you've done some proof-based math?

Any algebra or analysis?

[quaint spoke]

yeah and in complexity, computability, cryptography

ummm I know what a fourier transform is

that's part of analysis right

[velvet dagger]

Oh I missed computability and wasn't sure if the other classes were proofsy or not

[velvet dagger]

Yeah. I mean I guess, do you know about the sup property of R, say

Or what a Cauchy sequence is

[quaint spoke]

I guess not

[velvet dagger]

Hmm, I'd probably hesitate to say postgrad in that case, more undergrad

[quaint spoke]

but you put that in the advanced category

[velvet dagger]

Advanced vs early uni is kind of a different classification system than undergrad vs postgrad is the thing

Wait but

[quaint spoke]

I'm not in here for a math degree

I want to study physics

[velvet dagger]

I think undergrad role gives access to those channels

[quaint spoke]

why do you need to be so restrictive with access anyway

[velvet dagger]

Well, the only thing that's really gatekeep is that pre-uni isn't supposed to type in the advanced section

And that's because if we don't do that

[quaint spoke]

oh

[velvet dagger]

The advanced algebra channel gets a ton of people doing high school algebra 2

[quaint spoke]

so this isn't even channel access

this is just a role?

[vivid halo]

weekly trigonometry questions in #algebraic-geometry

[velvet dagger]

Undergrad and postgrad give access to all the math channels

[quaint spoke]

ooohhhhhhh okay

I didn't understand that

I don't care about the role

[velvet dagger]

Postgrad has access to some channels which are meant to be limited strictly to graduate level math.

Yeah they're divided differently from roles just to make it easier for people to navigate where they're interested

[quaint spoke]

I'm not studying for a math graduate degree lol I'm kinda trying for like a self-taught demonstration that I can do a physics phd

[velvet dagger]

Eg some people will just mute and collapse the pre-uni category because they care to talk about first year calculus

[quaint spoke]

but like some of those things I named ofc fall under theoretical cs, so I could contribute there

maybe. I'm not that versed in it

if someone asks a really basic question lol

it's also been like 8 years since I graduated

I need to relearn a bunch of undergrad stuff I forgot anyway

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I mean, the line is of course not sharp. But rest assured you will be able to have the undergrad role at minimum and have access to the advanced math channels

[quaint spoke]

are there people doing structured self teaching here?

[velvet dagger]

Some perhaps? There are a lot of people who self-study in some capacity or other, but "structured" may be the operative word here. Eg I can name quite a few who are perhaps early and self-studying later topics

[quaint spoke]

idk what I mean by structured anyway

I guess just planned

goal oriented

[velvet dagger]

Hmm so, I guess what I'll say is, a lot of people pick certain topics and self-study them, say via reading groups and such, outside of their classes

The reason I hesitated to give a firm yes at first is that I wasn't sure how extensive you had in mind. So eg one specific topic as a supplement to classes vs a significant percentage of a degree

Regardless yeah self-studying is definitely a thing here

[verbal quest]

Dami, I see you underestimated your patience
Basic Math for Adult Students Night School Sitcom
is back on the table

[quaint spoke]

does that have something to do with what I said

or is that just an inside joke

[verbal quest]

I was joking about something from yesterday
self education is great, dw

[quaint spoke]

I don't intend to replace a degree with self study just... prep for it by basically just doing all of it, then do it again formally once I get in somewhere

so I'm looking at probably a two year plan at least

I think it's my best chance of getting into a decent program

instead of trying to scrape together some means of getting noticed sooner

this will demonstrate that I'd not only be capable of doing it but likely a good investment

[velvet dagger]

That makes sense for sure

[velvet dagger]

Nooooooo

[quaint spoke]

frankly my aspiration is to do quantum gravity research

[velvet dagger]

I taught remedial algebra some time ago and I have had my fill of that kind of thing

[velvet dagger]

Oooo nice

[quaint spoke]

I have profoundly deep intuition for physics and many other things

so I think I can

[velvet dagger]

I mean yeah go for it! You got this

[quaint spoke]

thanks 🙂

I only recently realized that I could think like this

I've had an interesting life trajectory lmao

[velvet dagger]

Oh huh

[quaint spoke]

I was pretty smart all my life but more recently I became way smarter

it's a combination of factors

can I ask if the colors in your username have a specific meaning

you don't have to answer that

[velvet dagger]

Oh that's just the color set for senior mods

[quaint spoke]

oh ok

often see patterns that don't exist too

like all people ofc

I mean, really

patterns don't exist

patterns are simultaneously the entire basis of human cognition, and they don't exist

not absent of something to perceive or interpret them

patterns only exist relative to pattern-matching structures

structures are ofc patterns themselves

so here's the thing, my intuitive understanding often exceeds my symbolic understanding of a system, but ofc that means I might ask dumb questions without the formalism, is that something that will be okay here

[velvet dagger]

Hmm, there might be some variance in people's willingness to indulge that sort of thing?

[fast ivy]

It's always ok to ask dumb questions in any scenario... u just might hear some slurs directed back at u tho

[quaint spoke]

slurs?

[velvet dagger]

Because people would rather you just learn the relevant definitions and the basic theorems to ask more precise questions

[velvet dagger]

He's just trolling, people who slur get boiled fast

[quaint spoke]

I get that it was a joke but it wasn't a funny one

[fast ivy]

Ye, some people might call u a dum dum

[fast ivy]

😭

[quaint spoke]

I think maybe there was a miscommunication here

I will give you the benefit of the doubt

I'm kinda hypersensitive to certain things

which is partially why I'm so good at seeing patterns

if you don't know what I'm talking about then you don't have to worry about it

[velvet dagger]

I think Mister was exaggerating that there's a risk people will respond somewhat critically if they get the vibe that you're musing about things when they think you should just learn the standard stuff first. Which may or may not happen, depends on how that stuff pans out in each situation

Saying slurs wasn't great though, we don't wanna give the vibe that that kinda behavior is tolerated here

[quaint spoke]

I'm not easily offended on a personal level

[quaint spoke]

yeah I get it

thanks though

[fast ivy]

[quaint spoke]

I don't think it was meant maliciously

but yeah the word "slur" has a very specific meaning, it's not the same thing as an insult

[velvet dagger]

Not malicious just... Was trying to simultaneously bring to light the embedded point, comment on its validity, and indicate to him that he was unnecessarily crass

[quaint spoke]

I was more saying that I don't attribute malice, personally

expressing my feelings about it

[fast ivy]

Hm

I always used them synonymously

[velvet dagger]

Oh

[fast ivy]

English is not my native language

[velvet dagger]

I thought you were exaggerating. Yeah nah slur is much heavier

Stuff like n word and all

[quaint spoke]

in american english anyways a slur is a word with history of being used in hatred and violence towards marginalized people

[velvet dagger]

^

[quaint spoke]

and I get called slurs online pretty frequently when I openly express certain things about my identity

I know that's against policy here

I'm still vigilant about it

[fast ivy]

Aight I gotta sleep

[quaint spoke]

you're good

[fast ivy]

It's 5am

[quaint spoke]

have a good night

[quaint spoke]

are you in the caribbean or northeast canada

sorry nvm

[fast ivy]

South America

[quaint spoke]

ah ok. my brain forgets that your continent extends a bit further east

[mint canopy]

Nuked

[reef carbon]

oh lmao thank you

[velvet dagger]

I'll delete your messages so the word isn't floating but yeah it's been taken care of

[reef carbon]

ok sure

[neat lintel]

There is this different feeling of being stared at with baggy eyes

[left void]

Lizard

[old oak]

@junior veldt Angela Collier's latest video talks about books she's read recently, and one of those is Stanisław Lem's "Futurological Congress", which I can confirm is a great book (and I'm not just saying that because I'm Polish; some of Lem's books are quite bad, but that one is not among them)

[junior veldt]

oooh ok!

are you recommending it to me?

[old oak]

I mean, depends what you're into, but I just thought of you because of Angela

Whom we've discussed recently

[junior veldt]

Mhm!

[granite scaffold]

dead

[true zinc]

hey outsider, pseudo, aeoeoe

and darknessnights

[junior veldt]

hiii

[scarlet thistle]

How do bayseans reply to the swimming objection?

[leaden mirage]

Why are most discord servers nothing but social experiments?

[deep mango]

hmm... yes...

bird..

[quaint spoke]

everything humans do is an experiment

[leaden mirage]

well, no

[leaden mirage]

https://bsky.app/profile/ricksteves.bsky.social/post/3lskb3ryrpc25

[timid bronze]

Best group tn

[velvet dagger]

Yay

[scarlet siren]

How do I get help with roles, I lost my advanced math role and now I can't ask my field question

[velvet dagger]

Get one of the university-level roles, e.g. undergrad or smth

[scarlet siren]

Yea I select the postgrad role and it says your roles haven't changed

[velvet dagger]

Postgrad needs an application

Have you submitted it?

[scarlet siren]

I mean I did it last time I did roles, I've talked there before

Also I can't find the application given #get-advanced-access just says self-assign

[velvet dagger]

Yeah, it sends you to info

[agile fiber]

it seems you do not currently have the postgrad pending role, make sure to self-assign that

[scarlet siren]

how

[velvet dagger]

Read the full instructions on that page

It tells you how

[latent edge]

meow

[agile fiber]

in id:customize or #info

[scarlet siren]

The info bot wasn't working, the channels and roles one appears to have given me the pending role at least

[scarlet siren]

I've done what it said to do - ask the bot for the role, and it spat out roles not changed

[leaden mirage]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GuWRnh8bEAQQpv-.jpg

[velvet dagger]

Weird

[scarlet siren]

I've previously had the role for like 2 years too

[velvet dagger]

I saw you gave yourself the pending postgrad role at 10:35PM CST

So something had worked

But okay tell me now what's your background in math

[scarlet siren]

I'm a masters student, my thesis is due in like a week and a half

[velvet dagger]

Do you know e.g. real analysis, complex analysis, abstract algebra?

(Unless you're more applied, I'm less good at evaluating what constitutes grad level there)

[scarlet siren]

Our uni doesn't do complex analysis but yes to the other two

my field is matroids btw

[velvet dagger]

Alright, what's a book or paper you've read recently?

[scarlet siren]

I have Matroid Theory second edition by oxley right next to me

[jagged forge]

conducting a postgrad interview in the field, dami’s a veteran

[timid bronze]

silly cat

[velvet dagger]

(I'm being a bit more... thorough, I suppose, than the usual application, but since there's a glitch I'd be unilaterally giving you postgrad, instead of the usual process, so I'm giving myself a higher threshold to circumvent the process)

[scarlet siren]

I can whip out my thesis cites should you need, though you could probably guess my supervisor from that

[velvet dagger]

Yeah no need for that

[scarlet siren]

I mean I like my thesis topic so I'm happy to yap lmao

[velvet dagger]

I'll just ask some questions about the topics you know, basic ones to get your vibe, but my inclination is already a yes for what it's worth

Alright for algebra, here's a question

Hmm okay this might be not immediately obvious so don't worry if you don't get it, but I wanna hear you think out loud I suppose. I'll have some other questions as well

Let's say G is a simple group, and H is a proper subgroup. Show that |G| divides (|G|/|H|)!

[latent edge]

:3

[scarlet siren]

Oh I definitely remember my group theory

don't mind me double checking the definitions, I took group theory in 2022

[leaden mirage]

my dumb ass thinks that absolute values are always positive, and any group divides any proper subgroup

[velvet dagger]

What

[scarlet siren]

Oh yea I know |G| means order

[raven plaza]

||factorial||

[velvet dagger]

No need to even spoiler that part haha

It's just clarifying notation :P

[raven plaza]

To avoid confusion one should put both factorial and exclamation mark

[agile fiber]

calculate 5!❗

[scarlet siren]

Oh there's a dumb bedmas joke with 5! being the answer

I know that one

[scarlet siren]

my intuition is gone on that group theory stuff, It's been 3 years since I've touched order/simple groups

[velvet dagger]

Ah okay fair. I'll tell you how that goes then

[leaden mirage]

when touched by order/simple groups, Lie back and think of England

[velvet dagger]

If H is a subgroup of G, you have an action of G on the coset space G/H by left multiplication

So a non-trivial homomorphism G -> Sym(G/H)

Can't have a kernel since G is simple

So this is an injection

First iso gives |G| divides |Sym(G/H)| = (|G|/|H|)!

[scarlet siren]

Yea I haven't even touched lie groups

[leaden mirage]

me neither, I'm extremely basic WRT math. I merely only understand lay-level concepts

[scarlet siren]

our group theory lecturer was uhh, interesting. Did not exactly spend a lot of time on group action so I wouldn't have been able to do this bit

[leaden mirage]

is it possible to give an actual instance of this proof, by way of example?

[jagged forge]

badass

[scarlet siren]

once you give me this I was definitely thinking of first iso, would have still needed a bit more time on it (Read: checking my definitions) to finish it off

[leaden mirage]

In group theory, factorials appear most prominently when dealing with permutation groups and quotient groups. Factorials represent the number of ways to arrange a set of distinct objects, which is crucial when considering permutations (arrangements) of group elements. Additionally, the concept of a quotient group (or factor group) involves "factoring out" certain elements of a group, which can be related to factorials in combinatorial contexts

[velvet dagger]

Oh that's unfortunate, def learn group actions!

[velvet dagger]

I mean, any simple group

Take G = A_5

[leaden mirage]

are its members usually transformations?

[velvet dagger]

Pick any subgroup

[leaden mirage]

so (A_, _5) are subgroups?

[velvet dagger]

Every group can be thought of as a transformation group

[scarlet siren]

I might go back to it when I have time, definitely didn't help me in galois theory though

[jagged forge]

damn is A5 the smallest non cyclic simple group

[velvet dagger]

Yes

[jagged forge]

o well could be a lot worse

[velvet dagger]

https://math.uchicago.edu/~may/REU2016/REUPapers/Idelhaj.pdf see here

[leaden mirage]

yeah it could be .... in Aminor

(Kendrick song playing)

[velvet dagger]

It's also where I got the problem from, Lemma 4.5

[jagged forge]

yooo

[velvet dagger]

No idea what this notation means btw

[jagged forge]

oh it’s literally the next theorem after that lmao

[velvet dagger]

But yeah you can do a lot of Sylow counting stuff to get that A_5 is the smallest non-abelian simple group

If you know Feit-Thompson it's of course easier but uh

Feit-Thompson ain't easy

Or wait no

[leaden mirage]

me neither... You gave me a group composed of what looks like 3 characters. I guessed that meant that the only subgroups could be 2 characters or fewer

[velvet dagger]

That's not what I'm thinking of

[velvet dagger]

What?

[leaden mirage]

is an instance within a group considered a subgroup?

[fathom swallow]

Sloth King Daminark

[leaden mirage]

A and _ and 5

I parsed it lexically

[velvet dagger]

I can't tell if this is next-level trolling or if you just don't know tex and algebra

[leaden mirage]

I don't know tex, but I do know algebra

[velvet dagger]

Okay so A_5 lexically, which group does that even mean?

[leaden mirage]

it means each of those are characters on the computer screen

there's three of them

[velvet dagger]

Do you know what a group is?

Define it for me

[leaden mirage]

@jagged forge said "damn is A5 the smallest non cyclic simple group" which makes sense if each character is an element of the group of three items, containing "A" "_" and "5" as given 🙂

[velvet dagger]

Okay you don't know what a group is

You're thinking of a set

A group is a thing in algebra

[leaden mirage]

yes you are correct

[velvet dagger]

Abstract algebra not y = mx + b algebra

[leaden mirage]

thanks for correctly categorizing my wrongness

[velvet dagger]

And yeah you don't know enough about that for me to explain what's going on here

[leaden mirage]

no I do not know algebra. I thought this was the offtopic place

[velvet dagger]

Yeah you're not required to know algebra to be here

[leaden mirage]

ill shut up now

[velvet dagger]

But my point is you asked for an illustration of what I wrote above

[jagged forge]

i mean, no worries

we were all just very confused for a minute lol

[velvet dagger]

But from what I see, you don't quite have the background to understand such an illustration

[leaden mirage]

you are right

[velvet dagger]

So yeah sadly I can't quite help there. But you should learn algebra one day

[leaden mirage]

I thought group members were actual transformations

[velvet dagger]

They often are

A priori a group is just some set with a notion of "multiplication"

[leaden mirage]

like on a set of numbers, or a geometrical object, like rotate-translate

[jagged forge]

the second thing i did on this server was say something wrong about groups in front of a mod, i think

[velvet dagger]

Which might be multiplication of numbers, matrices, composition of functions

[jagged forge]

in an advanced channel too

[velvet dagger]

But it turns out, there's this notion called a group action

Where you can manifest a given group as a group of transformations of a set

[timid bronze]

Guys

[velvet dagger]

Hi Ally!

[timid bronze]

i havea required training module due in 2 hours

But im lazh

Do i do it

[velvet dagger]

Yes

Do it or you're gonna be broke

[timid bronze]

Hi

[timid bronze]

But me is lazy

[leaden mirage]

I got banned from two political servers tonight, one for lightly mocking right wingers, another for mocking a weirdo leftist with oppressive vibes

[timid bronze]

can u give me toxic harsh motivation

[leaden mirage]

I'm ok with getting banned from math server for being dumb about math

[jagged forge]

no one is going to ban u for being bad at math

[timid bronze]

can i get banned for being bad at math

pls

[jagged forge]

if we did that we’d have banned everyone here fr

[leaden mirage]

@jagged forge my good sir, that emoji is art

[timid bronze]

shut up pregnant furry

[jagged forge]

thank u

[velvet dagger]

You wanna be some lazy broke bum? You literally signed up for this job and then you're gonna not complete the training module in time and signal to your employers that you have no sense of commitment? In this world excellence is required to succeed. Not less than the bare minimum

[jagged forge]

i found it on emoji.gg

[leaden mirage]

winking smiley created with words

"Yields falsehoods when preceeded by its quotation" yields falsehoods when preceeded by its quotation .

[scarlet siren]

is my child

[timid bronze]

THX

[ocean robin]

he still hasnt scheduled his next ultrasound

i'm waiting

[velvet dagger]

Ally training module

Tabby if you distract Ally imma teach you real analysis

[scarlet siren]

I wanna make the ysis joke every single time

Like a child

[velvet dagger]

Oh right Starvin yeah okay lemme give you an analysis question

How far'd you get in real analysis?

[jagged forge]

https://tenor.com/view/gone-tokyo-ghoul-anime-gif-16764754

[timid bronze]

ya his stomach look like they partying hardcore

they kicking

[jagged forge]

wtf

[velvet dagger]

Break over back to module

[jagged forge]

thanx dami

[scarlet siren]

I did real analysis, hilbert spaces, point set topology and measure theory

[timid bronze]

wait but he’s pregnant hes birthing his furries

ugh fine

[velvet dagger]

oooo excellent lemme give you a question there

[ocean robin]

sorry ally thats my cue to go 🫡

[scarlet siren]

I didn't do real analysis until my fourth year because non-american uni just has math major requirements being take enough math courses at various levels lol

[velvet dagger]

Tbh American unis are highly non-uniform in their requirements

[ocean robin]

i wish it was more uniform

[jagged forge]

we love uniform things in analysis fr

[velvet dagger]

Tabby walked right into that

Uniformly, even

[scarlet siren]

I mean our required courses are intro to logic and a calculus course (Either differentation or integration)

The rest are take your pick

And I just picked the discrete side of things until postgrad courses started requiring PDEs :c

[ocean robin]

do that again and i'll start making fanart of your fursona marky mark

[jagged forge]

for the record i have NO such thing

[velvet dagger]

(What's your discrete math background btw?)

[ocean robin]

mmhm

[scarlet siren]

I mean, again, matroids

Which is like if linear algebra and graph theory made furry fanart together

[sharp mulch]

A_5 is the alternating group with 5 elements

[velvet dagger]

Do you know "ordinary" spectral graph theory?

[scarlet siren]

The word spectral is scary

[velvet dagger]

I just mean studying adjacency matrices of graphs

Which I guess might be a different angle than matroid stuff

Tbh I only know there's some "top-heavy conjecture" for matroids that was solved using some fancy algebraic topology/singular space shenanigans

[scarlet siren]

I mean its not far off

I'm in like, kurwatowski's theorem for matroids area

[scarlet siren]

having a look at the wikipedia article, looks neat, though I haven't encountered it previously

[velvet dagger]

Okay so I'll give a general linear algebra question since for some reason I'm blanking on suitable analysis questions at this moment (suitable means not just annoying drudgery but also not too fancy since I'm just trying to test what you know rather than what you can creatively come up with on the spot)

This will mix algebra and Hilbert spaces a little bit:
(a) Let's say T is a linear operator on some finite dimensional vector space V. Show that T is injective if and only if it's surjective
(b) Find an example in an infinite-dimensional Hilbert space where this is not true

[ocean robin]

hilbruh

[scarlet siren]

Thats an assignment ahh question if I've ever seen one

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I couldn't think of a good "on the spot" question that was also exciting

I have some exciting questions but I don't wanna make your postgrad test sneaky

[scarlet siren]

Time to whip out the massive whiteboard I use to do fuck around math

[jagged forge]

why haven’t i bought a whiteboard yet as an adult

this feels like a major oversight

[velvet dagger]

Here's another cute question if you'd like to answer: Given a random permutation pi in S_n, what's the expected number of fixed poitns?

[timid bronze]

Ugh this module is actually annoying

[ocean robin]

i still need to buy one

i want like a big one that rolls

[timid bronze]

These videos r shit i learned ab basic digital protection in hs 💀

[velvet dagger]

RIP

[jagged forge]

sameee

[velvet dagger]

Slight pandering to suremark here :P

[ocean robin]

ally dont get distracted dami is gonna teach me real analysis

i do not want that.

[scarlet siren]

So starting with injective -> surjective, suppose for contradiction we got a w which T doesn't map to. Then we've got the subspace fw for f in F that T doesn't map to by linearity

[timid bronze]

did u need the ultrasound gel to get suremark prepared

[ocean robin]

i want to distract but i cannot

im too scared of dami

[tall badge]

sloths arent scary

[scarlet siren]

same

[ocean robin]

but dami is

rocket jump, i like that name

[jagged forge]

OH

so THAT’S what that is

[ocean robin]

roketto janpu

[jagged forge]

https://tenor.com/view/rocket-jump-rocket-jump-the-rocket-jump-gif-10356223

[ocean robin]

yes🔥

[tall badge]

youve been here 2 years and didnt once think to google translate my name

[scarlet siren]

Oh its just equivalent to saying a basis maps to a basis

or close to

[tall badge]

its more like inj/surj/bi are equivalent on findim spaces

[latent edge]

rokettojampu

[velvet dagger]

That is true under which hypothesis?

Really there's a theorem to apply which does the job

[scarlet siren]

Yea I'm not remembering all my theorems but that do sound like one lol

Mind went to spectral theorem

[velvet dagger]

Not quite, we didn't say anything about symmetric operators or even assumed V was an inner product space

[timid bronze]

Dami r u still avail for vc

[velvet dagger]

I will say, we're not assuming V is even over R or C. This works over a finite field

[velvet dagger]

I'll be available soonish!

[timid bronze]

Poop

[latent edge]

meow

[ocean robin]

mrow

[timid bronze]

U both r cats

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/remilia-scarlet-touhou-cat-gif-27547611

[scarlet siren]

Its fucking rank nullity theorem

[ocean robin]

omg i love that theorem

[fringe summit]

yay

[scarlet siren]

I have not seen that fella in over 3.5 years

[ocean robin]

no ‼️‼️

[scarlet siren]

yes

[scarlet siren]

no thank you

[fringe summit]

vector spaces <~> pretty much just sets fr

[fringe summit]

yes !

[velvet dagger]

Yes

[latent edge]

so you don't like rank nullity theorem i see

[scarlet siren]

my guess on the counterexample hilbert space is (\mathcal{L}^2[a,b])

[fathom swallow]

StarvinPig

[velvet dagger]

Well, we'd need a Hilbert space and a linear operator

[scarlet siren]

I am aware

[velvet dagger]

My hint is, try to find an operator on l^2(N)

[scarlet siren]

That is also one I was thinking of

I am pretty sure I've seen one on an exam or something that would work

[timid bronze]

@velvet dagger

W H E N

[ocean robin]

[latent edge]

meow

[velvet dagger]

NOW

[timid bronze]

Ok finally one sec

[ocean robin]

mrrp

[timid bronze]

Me need change

[velvet dagger]

Yeah for sure!

In the meantime looking for good Indian food in the area

[timid bronze]

Me still wearing cable knit sweater rn so me change to smth comfy

[timid bronze]

u better send pics

[velvet dagger]

Yes I will!!!

[fringe summit]

W H A T

[fresh comet]

I never got the night walk photos

[median knot]

Oiii show me tooo 😼

How ya all doing?

[scarlet siren]

btw @velvet dagger I am still suffering over here

[fresh comet]

all things considered, fairly well, but my sides hurt for some reason

on the inside

[scarlet siren]

I know the moment you tell me the operator Ima feel like a right doof

[fresh comet]

how're you?

[fringe summit]

Ominous

[scarlet siren]

It's analysis so there's a trick I'm missing

[fringe summit]

Ok vector spaces/Hilbert spaces are basically infinite sets

[scarlet siren]

[velvet dagger]

You don't really need the analysis for this one

Can replace Hilbert space with infinite-dimensional vector space, in principle over any field (not even R/C, but finite field works etc)

[fringe summit]

Rank nullity is essentially “image + complement of image = whole set” in cardinality

[scarlet siren]

I know but its in that field

[fringe summit]

So, L^2 is kinda the N of this world

What’s an injective map N -> N that isn’t surjective

[ocean robin]

ur mom

[fringe summit]

Rank nullity is kinda just “yeah replace things with their dimension” in these nice cases tbh

[median knot]

Ohh noo 😧, did you sleep in an uncomfy position Maybe? Thats always the case for me 🥲

[median knot]

Im good thx for asking 🫶

[timid bronze]

H I S H A R P I E

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/remilia-scarlet-touhou-cat-gif-27547611

[timid bronze]

Oh yea i forgot

one sec

dms

[ocean robin]

sharpie :3

[fresh comet]

on the contrary, this usually happens when I've been putting off sleeping

[ocean robin]

i love putting off sleep

[fresh comet]

this is a typical reminder for me to go to bed :p

[velvet dagger]

Same!

[ocean robin]

its 3 hrs past my bedtime

[timid bronze]

No dami u dk where i go

Pls stop Dox me

[scarlet siren]

death to your ancestors

[fresh comet]

happy to hear it

idk when your vacation is scheduled now, but I hope you enjoy it when it arrives 🤍

[median knot]

Go sleep

[fresh comet]

maybe in a couple of hrs :p

[median knot]

It’s todayyy 🥳🥳

[fresh comet]

yippee

enjoy the vacation!!

[fresh comet]

n -> 2n?

[scarlet siren]

Is it really ((v_1,v_1,v_3,v_2,v_5,v_3,...))

[fathom swallow]

StarvinPig

[median knot]

Oiii get some sleep or Else u will look like a sleepdeprived chipmunk 🐿

😭😭

[fresh comet]

why sleep when I can do more math

[scarlet siren]

Its only 5pm here I don't have that excuser

[fresh comet]

it's okay if I look sleep deprived if the math is being solved frfr

[fringe summit]

Hi

[fringe summit]

:3

[fringe summit]

Lame

[fringe summit]

Woe

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/remilia-scarlet-touhou-cat-gif-27547611

[fresh comet]

ello Sharp, sufficient c:

ello Deltoid

[fringe summit]

I mean something stupid like that provides an example

[median knot]

Erhmmm sleep is a break from that to think more on the creative side in math, don’t remind me how many times I dreamt about my teacher scolding me for something I did wrong in my test 💀💀

[fringe summit]

And every injective but not surjective map N -> N gives an example

(But not every example is necessarily of this form)

[velvet dagger]

This works yeah

Also just

[fresh comet]

I used to get nightmares about my physics teacher scolding me

[velvet dagger]

(v_1,v_2,...) -> (0, v_1, v_2, ...)

[fresh comet]

she had a reputation of being strict

but I think she was a great teacher

just high expectations

[velvet dagger]

Here's one which might be your style, I might've been cruel with my choice of subject

[median knot]

Does are really the teachers you can go to if you have a question, they are actually passionate about teaching, my chemistry teacher is such a person every other teacher is ehrmmm alright 😭😭🥲

[velvet dagger]

@scarlet siren Show that a graph is bipartite if and only if it contains no odd length cycles

[fresh comet]

I visit my physics teacher every so often

[latent edge]

evil

[fresh comet]

I happened to be her favourite student too

so we get along very well

[velvet dagger]

Actually answer any of the following
Graph theory:
Show that a graph is bipartite if and only if it contains no odd-length cycles

Algebra/probability:
What's the expected number of fixed points of permutation in S_n picked uniformly at random?

Real analysis:
Show that a monotone function f:R->R has at most countably many discontinuities

[fresh comet]

I have trauma from bipartite graphs

[median knot]

I don’t get along with my maths teacher 😭😭😭

[latent edge]

are you claiming they are equivalent Dami?

[scarlet siren]

oh I can do that one surely

[timid bronze]

GUYS

[fresh comet]

Hall's marriage theorem was cool though

[timid bronze]

SAY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO DAMI

[timid bronze]

STOP TALKING

[latent edge]

I used Hall's marriage theorem in my research last week

it was so cool

[fresh comet]

I beat you by an hour

[median knot]

Happy Birthday Dami!!! 🥳🥳

[fresh comet]

not Dani

[scarlet siren]

Assume bipartite, assume for contradiction we have an odd length cycle (e_1....e_{2n+1})

[fathom swallow]

StarvinPig

[fresh comet]

Dani is a different moderator >.<

[velvet dagger]

In fairness to Ally she's a time zone behind

[median knot]

My auto correct is fkin irritating 😭😭😭

[timid bronze]

dami is in cdt

so u dont count

[median knot]

I ment dami

[velvet dagger]

Thanks NatxxD

[fresh comet]

well, I set timers for everybody's birthday in their timezones

somehow I forgot you were in CDT though

I'm a fraud

[scarlet siren]

If our partition is ((A,B)) then WLOG (e_1) goes from (A) to (B)

[fresh comet]

[fathom swallow]

StarvinPig

[fresh comet]

I have one set for tomorrow at 3am

because somebody has a birthday in Pacific time

[scarlet siren]

Then repeat for (v_i), we'll end up with (v_{2n + 1}) going from (A) to (B) so our start and end vertices aren't the same

[fathom swallow]

StarvinPig

[wise bloom]

higher!

Bro

[fresh comet]

howdy

[scarlet siren]

Contradiction, go away

[median knot]

I get very confused with all these timings 🥲

[fresh comet]

[wise bloom]

Bro I need some help from you to validate my math

I would be grateful if you could

[velvet dagger]

No you're not higher I was born in NY anyway

[fresh comet]

I'm afraid that I'm not in the mood to assist you at the moment

[wise bloom]

ok no problem

[fresh comet]

you can ask in a help channel if you would like

[wise bloom]

See ya have a nice say

say*

Lmao

[fresh comet]

you too!

[wise bloom]

Day*

higher!

[twin lance]

hi @fresh comet

[wise bloom]

Can you suggest what event we can do

Like I made a meta suggestion regarding this

[scarlet siren]

For graph with no odd length cycles, we're just gonna pick a (v_1) and work from there and path out:

[fathom swallow]

StarvinPig

[fresh comet]

I cannot

[twin lance]

hvae we had any events before in this server??

[wise bloom]

Oh

[median knot]

You’re famous 😼🔥

[wise bloom]

#events

[fresh comet]

I happen to know a few people on this server

[twin lance]

woowww

[scarlet siren]

• If (v_1) is isolated, you can throw it in whatever side so WLOG let it be in (A) and pick another vertex
• If (v_1) is not isolated, throw every vertex adjcacent to(v_1) in (B) with (v_1) in (A)
• repeat for all vertices adjacent to (v_1), alternating back and forth

[fathom swallow]

StarvinPig

[median knot]

That’s soo good. You’re helping a lot of people 😼 plus your sweet so everyone likes you 🫶 no literally who wouldn’t like you? 🤩🫶

[scarlet siren]

The only problem we're gonna have is if we have some (v_j) adjacent to some previous (v_i) where (i,j) are the same polarity

[fresh comet]

you flatter me

[fathom swallow]

StarvinPig

[median knot]

You’re actually one of the sweetest people I have met 😩🔥

[velvet dagger]

You have the gist of it yeah Starvin

[scarlet siren]

And that

's only gonna happen if triangle which contradiction

[fresh comet]

thank you

I just do the best I can to demonstrate kindness to others

[velvet dagger]

Well, not triangle exactly but odd cycle

Like assume connected WLOG

Pick v_0

Let vertices you get to in an odd number of steps by L

[fresh comet]

I think more people deserve a bit of extra kindness to their lives

[velvet dagger]

Even number R

And if this isn't well-defined

That gets an odd cycle

[fresh comet]

I try my best to add a tiny bit to that, even if I'm an internet stranger

it makes me happy to see others happy c:

[median knot]

That’s soo nice of you 😭🫶

I also want to be kind to everyone

And only try to come to a conclusion when I get almost all perspectives

[fresh comet]

it's good to be open minded 🤍

I've been practicing that a lot in the past couple of years

[fresh comet]

I love that

[velvet dagger]

Neurosurgeons agree

[median knot]

Are we talking about regular open minded or like hongdae open mindu? 💀😭

[fresh comet]

I don't know what the latter is

[velvet dagger]

LMFAO

NatxxD is peak

[fresh comet]

I'm not well versed in Korean culture

[latent edge]

wtf is hongdae

[median knot]

Erhmm

[fresh comet]

is it bad?

[median knot]

Ehrmmm

[latent edge]

just seems like a place

[median knot]

It depends on what kind of personality and mentality you have…. 😂😂

[velvet dagger]

There's this tiktok meme where some guy named Sean doesn't like guys in Hongdae and makes skits about "Hongdae guys" who are basically players

[jaunty ibex]

Higher stop being AI please...

[median knot]

😭

[fresh comet]

[latent edge]

oh that's why i dont know it

[solid yarrow]

Vero and Deltoid :3

Hewwo

[velvet dagger]

So they go to foreign girls and try to convince them to engage in the hanky panky

[jaunty ibex]

Don't group me with Deltoid. I don't like Deltoid

[median knot]

Hey 😄

[solid yarrow]

since when...

[velvet dagger]

"Excuse me! You seem very... Open minded 😏 Put your number in my iPhone 16 Pro Max"

[solid yarrow]

[fresh comet]

oh, maybe I was better off not knowing

[solid yarrow]

Elo

[latent edge]

that's crazy

[median knot]

I can’t 😭😭😂😂😂😂💀

[fresh comet]

[jaunty ibex]

Since a while

[fresh comet]

initiating memory wipe...

.<

.<

.<

...

[solid yarrow]

Hete have some of these pills, they will help ypu engage in more 'open' activities

[fresh comet]

memory wiped!

[median knot]

😭

[fresh comet]

hi NatxxD

[median knot]

Hellooo

[timid bronze]

Higher /10 how open minded do u think i am

[solid yarrow]

How's da research going?

[fresh comet]

how's your day going?

[solid yarrow]

[fresh comet]

ello f0xy, Deltoid, Dami, ally

[timid bronze]

10 too open minded 1 not at all

[jaunty ibex]

Got some progress for some reason

[fresh comet]

ello Vero

[solid yarrow]

For some reason? Wdym

[jaunty ibex]

Why me last

[jaunty ibex]

I was not expecting

[median knot]

Good good wbu? 😂

[fresh comet]

do you really want me to give you an estimate?

[jaunty ibex]

I feel like incredibly dumb in grad school

[timid bronze]

yes

[fresh comet]

good! I'm doing math

[solid yarrow]

Only because you're measure is weird ig

[solid yarrow]

Diff-geo?

[twin flicker]

hi ally

[velvet dagger]

You're pretty open minded imo Ally!

[timid bronze]

Hi vereity

[timid bronze]

Id hope...

Imagine being told ur hard headed

[median knot]

Hey 😄

[jaunty ibex]

It all boiled down to studying the current state of art of what is going on with Severi varieties

[fresh comet]

in general, I feel like you've consistently been very tolerant of others' perspectives, so I'll give it a 9.1/10

[fresh comet]

hello Vereity

[timid bronze]

Oo

[velvet dagger]

Yeah that sounds about right

[solid yarrow]

My doc told me that once ._. Since I hit my head before meeting him.

[jaunty ibex]

Foxy is really kind...

[median knot]

Yes I think so too 🤩

[jaunty ibex]

I feel like Foxy is the kindest person here

[fresh comet]

f0xy is very kind

[solid yarrow]

What is happening

[median knot]

🤩

[solid yarrow]

Why am I thr topic now

[median knot]

We ar just saying your kind 🤩

[solid yarrow]

[jaunty ibex]

cuz ur kind duh

Higher is AI

[solid yarrow]

[jaunty ibex]

I'm mostly teasing btw dont take it seriously

[fresh comet]

why am I always the AI

[solid yarrow]

I know i know np worries

[velvet dagger]

Higher is the only person I've seen get called AI a noticeable percentage of the number of times I get called that

[solid yarrow]

Cause you're too perfect

[fresh comet]

I must be at a 100 instances now

where somebody has assumed that I'm a discord bot

[jaunty ibex]

Dami is scary and goofy

[fresh comet]

[jaunty ibex]

He's a good mod lowkey

[solid yarrow]

Lmao

[median knot]

I mean higher way of speaking is majestic and very kind I kinda get it 😭😂

[velvet dagger]

😎

[solid yarrow]

Dami is goofy, but I like him :3

[velvet dagger]

Hyuk

[solid yarrow]

Bless you?

[jaunty ibex]

Ahahaha

[solid yarrow]

[jaunty ibex]

What are you guys up to

[fresh comet]

computing pushforwards

[solid yarrow]

Drinkikg coffee before going to uni

[jaunty ibex]

I'm just watching YT

[median knot]

Just got up 😭

[solid yarrow]

Based

[fresh comet]

or rather, I was

but I got bored of doing that

[twin flicker]

i keep drinking like 2 energy drinks a day i need to stop

[solid yarrow]

Factorio moment: EXPAND!

[jaunty ibex]

Isn't it night at your place?

EST?

[tidal shoal]

hi discussion 2!

[solid yarrow]

,ti

[fathom swallow]

The current time for f0xy.exe is 07:34 AM (CEST) on Fri, 27/06/2025.

[median knot]

Good mornin 😄

[jaunty ibex]

huh

Germany?

[twin flicker]

what

[solid yarrow]

Yeah?

[jaunty ibex]

German?

[solid yarrow]

Drink 3per day

[solid yarrow]

Yeah? Ypu didn't know?

[fresh comet]

f0xy is the German fox

[jaunty ibex]

I didn't know that lol

[solid yarrow]

[jaunty ibex]

I might have forgotten I'm not sure

[solid yarrow]

No worries

Nothing too relevant tbh

[twin flicker]

i could do this but i would run out of my supply sooner

[jaunty ibex]

I might do my phd in Germany

[twin flicker]

im almost out of bread and potatoes so i need to buy more tmr

[median knot]

https://tenor.com/view/dancing-boy-cowboy-you-too-boo-yeah-right-gif-17820485

[solid yarrow]

Well I'd say everything under 400 mg is okie.

[twin flicker]

3 is 600

[solid yarrow]

Vero-Foxy meet up incoming

[fresh comet]

https://tenor.com/view/bunny-balloon-stay-cute-bye-just-stopping-by-gif-17506260

[jaunty ibex]

I'd be up

[solid yarrow]

I was joking ofc

[twin flicker]

my personall limit is 700-800

[jaunty ibex]

You guys have great beer bars there

[latent edge]

Now we know who is alcoholic

[solid yarrow]

Yeah get all jittery then, no?

[solid yarrow]

Habuki?

[jaunty ibex]

Shut up 🗿

[timid bronze]

I want to meet @fresh comet and @velvet dagger one day

[solid yarrow]

Why did you ping me then

[fresh comet]

I hope I can meet you one day too

and Dami too

[velvet dagger]

Yes I would also like to meet you both! :)

[timid bronze]

Bc topic is on

[fresh comet]

but it's a little hard for me to go to the US atm

[solid yarrow]

ok

[jaunty ibex]

Brutal

Dw Foxy I will meet u

[fresh comet]

maybe if I go there for grad school, I can meet you two

[timid bronze]

Sorry f0xy idk u much

[solid yarrow]

[fresh comet]

but I think the grad school prospects there are also a little challenging at this time

[timid bronze]

Ngl i wonder what my life will look like after school

[fresh comet]

[solid yarrow]

It's okie. Same for me. I see you lurking around Dami most of the time.

[timid bronze]

may not even live in the US after school

[latent edge]

unironically grad school in europe is the move

[velvet dagger]

Maybe I'll have an excuse to visit you!

[timid bronze]

Im not doing grad school

[solid yarrow]

I am so scared of that moment.

[jaunty ibex]

word

[timid bronze]

Unless ChemE doesnt accept me and i have to do my backup Chemistry

[fresh comet]

nothing wrong with that c:

[timid bronze]

😂

[solid yarrow]

Is it that bad in the US?

[fresh comet]

[latent edge]

it's this and personal preferences

for the record im not in US

[verbal quest]

we can help
just tell us when and a black SUV full of anonymous agents will show up to greet you

[velvet dagger]

Chemistry is still quite good as well!

[solid yarrow]

Wait what. I thought... what?

[timid bronze]

Oh yea its just the back up but

[twin flicker]

depends

[latent edge]

Canaduh

[timid bronze]

Im not saying it as if im expecitng it

[latent edge]

Close enough

[twin flicker]

if its spaced out then not really

[velvet dagger]

I foresee joy and success in your future regardless of where you go after finishing college

[timid bronze]

i have the required gpa (Unless physics kills it next semester)

[solid yarrow]

Ahhhhh... i remember

[median knot]

Chemistry is well thought in Europe, I will say 😌

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/remilia-scarlet-touhou-cat-gif-27547611

[timid bronze]

Anything except biology in life

[jaunty ibex]

Stop sending this it's cringe

[velvet dagger]

You gotta teach me some as you learn! It's been a while since I've done physics

[solid yarrow]

Me need to finish my coffee in 4 min. Because then I need to go tp uni :(. Not even halfway through

[twin flicker]

is this remilia

[timid bronze]

Im self studying physics rn did u not know..

[latent edge]

yes

[latent edge]

What physics?

Newtonian?

[fresh comet]

I did not know either

[velvet dagger]

I knew you had the plan to do it, I wasn't sure if it started yet considering your job

[fresh comet]

sounds about right

it's actually really well taught at my uni, all things considered

I hear very good things about the chem dept here

[timid bronze]

just mechanics and thermodynamics mainly

since im needing that most

[latent edge]

makes sense yeah

[fresh comet]

I unfortunately know zero thermo

[solid yarrow]

quantum mechanics

Ahhhh

[latent edge]

I only know how to relate thermo with NT

[median knot]

Sounds niceeee 😄

[latent edge]

That's good enough for me

[timid bronze]

Dont come to me for thermo in physics

Come to me for thermo in chemistry!

[median knot]

I’m still in high school donno about uni yet 😂

[fresh comet]

I can probably go ask my brother to teach me thermo if I really wanted to learn it
you'd probably be my backup though

[velvet dagger]

Only thing I remember from chem thermo is PV = nRT
And the fact that reactions have activation energy

[timid bronze]

NOT THERMO IN PHYSICS PLEASE

THEM DIAGRAMS PISS ME OFF

[median knot]

I mean how they teach chem

[latent edge]

yeah lmao

[agile fiber]

i took eng thermo so all i can tell you is that a refrigerator is nearly the same as a steam engine ran in reverse

[velvet dagger]

From physics I vaguely remember this notion of adiabatic stuff

[latent edge]

I learned the advanced version of PV=nRT and said "no im gonna go back to pervert equation"

[velvet dagger]

Or maybe that also was in chemistry?

[fresh comet]

idk how the high school to uni transition is in Europe

[timid bronze]

Uni math humbled me

[fresh comet]

I hope it's better than in NA

[velvet dagger]

Oh right exothermic and endothermic reactions are a thing too