serious-discussion

[timid bronze]

farmers delight was lowkey easy to install

[tender heron]

Which shaders do you have rn?

[timid bronze]

but shaders was so complicated

Uhh

I dont remb off too of my head let me see

[steel vessel]

Did u get windows on ur mac?

[timid bronze]

Microsoft windowz?

[steel vessel]

Ye

[tender heron]

That's your shaders?

Weird

[timid bronze]

It made me make an ac c btu like

I still run my device on apple system

If that makes sense

XD

[timid bronze]

No wait

[steel vessel]

Yes

[tender heron]

U have apple laptop? And windows on it??

[steel vessel]

Like u used bootcamp?

[tender heron]

How does that work?

[timid bronze]

NO LIKE IT MADE ME MAKE A MICROSOFT ACC

[timid bronze]

Oh no

[steel vessel]

OH

[timid bronze]

It just works on mac

[steel vessel]

OKAY

OMG REALLY

[timid bronze]

YES

THE MODS

and ngl

we have

[steel vessel]

THATS SO COOL

[timid bronze]

less of a chance getting viruses girl

[tender heron]

Why?

[timid bronze]

Mac has better

virus protection

[tender heron]

Wbt my windows?

I keep them clean

[timid bronze]

But riskier

[tender heron]

I use vpn

YouTube add blocker

[timid bronze]

wait

lyc did u wanna see my actual shaders or like the name of it

bc it says mine is sodium

[tender heron]

Uhm, both

[twin flicker]

hi ally

[timid bronze]

Hii vereity

[tender heron]

Oh i tried downloading that one and it said "download java first you dimwit" but it didnt let me

So i gave up after 6 hours of back and forth...

[steel vessel]

ally

im ready to play

[tender heron]

That's actually so beautiful

[timid bronze]

OK CAN U SHOW ME HOW TO JOIN SUREMARKS SERVER

[tender heron]

I'm gonna get it tmrrw

[timid bronze]

PLS

[tender heron]

LMAO

[twin flicker]

minecraft is so fire

[tender heron]

Do you keep the mod if you join someone else's server?

[timid bronze]

Using fabric as the installer

[tender heron]

Oh it's 12 am
I'm going to have to wind down soon :'((

[timid bronze]

i can show u the

vid tutorial i followed

[tender heron]

Ohh yes plss

[timid bronze]

Fr

[timid bronze]

its mac tho

[timid bronze]

idek

I think not?

[tender heron]

I dont think it's really that different right?

[twin flicker]

its 6pm and im alrdy sleepy im so cooked

[tender heron]

6pm is a good time to start sleeping 😴😴

[twin flicker]

i pulled an all nighter my fault gang

[twin flicker]

no my schedule will be off

[tender heron]

Wdym? 6pm wakes you up at 8 am

[velvet dagger]

Basically

[timid bronze]

@jagged forge

WHITELIST ME

[jagged forge]

oopsies

[velvet dagger]

My thing is, I didn't have a straight up calc 3 class

[tender heron]

Ally, I'm going to sleep now. If you can send the link to that tutorial that'd be real nice

[velvet dagger]

My analysis class was supposed to do multi first quarter but kinda skipped it

[tender heron]

ME TOOOOOOO

[timid bronze]

https://youtu.be/vckhCydKD9M?si=gUwGUHZcoHkzBE8S

[velvet dagger]

Second quarter we did forms in the plane

[tender heron]

ThannQqq

[timid bronze]

This is 1.21.5 i saw Mc. upgraded to 1.21.6

So be weary

[tender heron]

I thought 1.21.4 was the newest

Oh wait

I did see that we can fly ghasts now??

[timid bronze]

YEA SRY i was looking thru my history

[tender heron]

Lmao that's funny

Okay, thank you, good night 💤 🌉

[timid bronze]

Gnn

[velvet dagger]

Also ugh once I get my laptop fixed I'm joining you guys in Minecraft fr

[jagged forge]

i forgot about ur laptop

[velvet dagger]

Yeah ( ._.)

[twin flicker]

i dont think so

[fresh comet]

have a good night, Lycoris

[twin flicker]

i think i have a caffeine addiction

[latent edge]

Same

[twin flicker]

i keep baselining 400mg per day

sometimes 500+

[latent edge]

Hell yeah

[twin flicker]

i think u can go 800 safely

[steel vessel]

GN

[haughty panther]

I never got any side effects even though I sometimes go up to 1000mg in a day

[jagged forge]

1000mg is crazy bruh

[haughty panther]

Maybe if it's spread out throughout the day it's not that bad

Also if you drink decaffeinated coffee it supplies decaffeine to your body which cancels the caffeine

I never drink decaffeinated tho

[latent edge]

ket's not talk about how much i drink

[timid bronze]

not good :(

[velvet dagger]

Fr

[ocean harbor]

yes ket's not!

[foggy meadow]

What's a good book for error codes?

[velvet dagger]

I don't know of one yet. I'm more of a group theory guy at the moment

[timid bronze]

doing all of this just for dami~chan smh

[velvet dagger]

Wha? :0

[steel vessel]

doing all of this just for dami~chan smh

[latent edge]

meow

[velvet dagger]

Wha? :0^2

[timid bronze]

u gotta stop it man

[steel vessel]

doing all of this just for dami~chan's birth smh

[timid bronze]

doing all of this just for dami~chan's birth smh

[latent edge]

drink milk coffee as we speak

[timid bronze]

how much have u drank today

[latent edge]

one cup

[timid bronze]

Ok this is ur limit

[foggy meadow]

What would be a cool group to make a CA with?

[latent edge]

fair

no more coffee

[velvet dagger]

Look Cyberist my knowledge of the CS side of things should be treated as near 0

For the time being

I would like to eventually learn that but as it stands I've got more pressing matters

[timid bronze]

UGH THESE MOBS KEEP KILLING CLAU AND I IN MC

MAKES ME WANNA kms

[latent edge]

try SL_2(Z)

[foggy meadow]

What might that look like?

[timid bronze]

Thats ur daily limit btw

[latent edge]

okay queen

[latent edge]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/7/72/Turnovergif.gif

the fact i have the GIF

[timid bronze]

Queen is the most ufly name

Ugly

[foggy meadow]

Yeah, modular forms type beat.

[latent edge]

aw

how about silly ally

:3

[timid bronze]

Oki Mr feet

[latent edge]

ok what do u want then hmm

[timid bronze]

NO SILLY ALLY is fine

[latent edge]

O.O

[foggy meadow]

I have used modular forms in a complex stochastic CA before.

[latent edge]

oki silly ally

[latent edge]

SL_2(Z) is used in modular forms yes

[fringe summit]

Dami-chan

[foggy meadow]

So, each cell has 4 variables, a, b, c, d.

[fringe summit]

Silly billy

[timid bronze]

Our dog

[timid bronze]

.

No.

[fringe summit]

Yes

[velvet dagger]

[foggy meadow]

What would be the local function?
Also, should each cell have one value but it ad - bc = 1?
where a,b,c,d are neighboring cells?

[neat lintel]

Is my network lagging or am I ok?

I'm fr; don't just stare at this message

ok

[timid bronze]

We will name a puppy sharp too

[foggy meadow]

Honestly SL(2, Z) looks sort of like sand fleas.

[timid bronze]

@latent edge Did u even make the cake btw

[latent edge]

yes

[foggy meadow]

Or it can look like a regular blur filter.

sand, sand fleas, noise, or blur filter.

[latent edge]

lol

show

[foggy meadow]

Can't upload pictures.

[timid bronze]

And wheres the pic .

[velvet dagger]

I buy it

[neat lintel]

...

hm

[vivid halo]

tfw

ahh yes that makes it so much more clear lmao

[foggy meadow]

Binary tree go burr.

[velvet dagger]

The binary tree is the building for PGL_2(Q_1)

[vast wraith]

this figure is in hatcher’s new book “topology of numbers,” which is a funny book, it mentions “topology” in the first paragraph of the preface and then never again

[vivid halo]

strange book lmao

tfw outer space

[vast wraith]

im pretty sure he just wanted to show off the farey diagram and i’m all for that 😌

[vivid halo]

yeah I mean the Farey graph is a very nice construction

some of the higher dimensional generalizations of this are also quite nice

at least in low rank

[timid bronze]

@steel vessel i wish roblox could cap how many times we can change our users

Giving me the urge rn.. But ill resist.

[steel vessel]

whats ur idea

if only it wasnt 1k

[timid bronze]

suremarkchanandkawaiichan

jk

More 1D users

[timid bronze]

FR

[steel vessel]

i wish they could give us the option of refunding all our past usernames i would have 19k rn

[steel vessel]

LMAO

[timid bronze]

NO LITERALLY

[steel vessel]

cute

[timid bronze]

i also wish we could private some users

I dont want some being seen bro.

[steel vessel]

FR

[timid bronze]

I dont even say how much itd be for me..

[steel vessel]

like 32k

[timid bronze]

.

Why did u have to count.

R U TRYING TO GEY ME BULLIED

actually lowkey i wish i was bullied off of roblox

This shit a money grab

[fringe summit]

W

[timid bronze]

so u want a sharp~chan?

Ok.

[fringe summit]

yes

[latent edge]

cool pictures

[visual breach]

Farey diagram is cool!

[vast wraith]

all my homies love the farey diagram

[timid bronze]

@steel vessel

r we gonna make suremark and kawaii~chan have 2 boys

a dami~chan and sharp~chan

[fringe summit]

So tell me, am I going mad for you?

I want you to be there when I am through

Cause every day I look away

[timid bronze]

Sharp singing

Sharp thought he could lryc prank

lyric

😂

[fringe summit]

The Saint

https://soundcloud.com/undr-t/this-way-to-egress-saint-mp3 at 2:15

https://open.spotify.com/track/0A1uel560O45IM1ih7it2D

Actual crediting link

[timid bronze]

ip geabbwe

grabber

[steel vessel]

okay

[fringe summit]

Cry

[timid bronze]

Hm, you don’t care about my safety on the Internet. I see how it is. /j

[velvet dagger]

I think Sharp was the one who was crying rather than telling you to cry

He maximally cares fr

[timid bronze]

No.

i actually one time faked offline from discord for 3 weeks straight

Cuz i was scared over a frq i got

Long story.

but it is to do with ip leaking

[velvet dagger]

Ouch, sorry to hear that Ally

[timid bronze]

Why r u saying sorry

I laugh at it now

Its chill

[fringe summit]

Truly

[velvet dagger]

Sharp I tried to defend you come on

[timid bronze]

?

Sharp why R u so mean past few days

🤔

[fringe summit]

I’m always mean

[velvet dagger]

Ah okay, just immediate instinct I guess

[timid bronze]

Okay

[timid bronze]

I see

Well dont bee

🐝

[fringe summit]

[timid bronze]

ive never been stung by a mosquito ngl

but i have been by a bee

i cant imagine by a wasp ppl say it hurts so bad

[velvet dagger]

I've been bitten by mosquitos so many times as a kid. Also ant stings suck

Bee only once and it was already dead by the time it stung me

I was in a water park and I guess a bee got caught in a jet of water

[timid bronze]

omg

[velvet dagger]

So it got shot into my neck stinger first

[timid bronze]

oww

my dads heel got stung and he was screaming

and i have to be honest

i was a kid at that time so

i mightve laughed at his reaction..

But i was humbled real quick with a bee stinging my face

[velvet dagger]

[timid bronze]

I was like 10 Ok.

So over 9 years ago.

wait thats crazy to think ab

2015 was 10 YEARS AGO?

[velvet dagger]

Hey no shade! Just like damn oof

One time my dad got... Bitten or stung, I forget which, by some bug

I couldn't identify the bug

[timid bronze]

2015 is still the best year ever

[timid bronze]

omg

i wish they didnt exist

😢

[velvet dagger]

Yeah he was dizzy for 3 days

[timid bronze]

omfg what

im sorry to hear

[velvet dagger]

Whatever the bug was, it was venomous af

[timid bronze]

i mean ik this was a while ago but still

[velvet dagger]

Yeah it was oof. I wish I knew what it was called

Like maybe it was less the venom and more that he was allergic? Idk

[craggy parcel]

new ally pfp

this is the same pfp as someone i knew from another server

[dreamy ore]

yeah that means ur 10 now

[coarse bridge]

ally owes whoever they r an apology

[craggy parcel]

they were kinda uh

manipulative

they would frequently guilt people about not giving them attention

[deep mango]

ah

so less like ally and more like-

[craggy parcel]

i have no idea what goes after the hyphen

[deep mango]

theyll know

[craggy parcel]

after some thought i know who youre talking about and i disagree

two perfect logicians ahh scenario

[timid bronze]

..Im waiting. @latent edge

[latent edge]

omg

i made another cake

and didnt even take a pic

L

[timid bronze]

Cap...

U probably burnt it

Thats why ur not showing

[latent edge]

lol

maybe you

not me

[timid bronze]

Wait this is nice

also ur camera quality WTF

better than my own eyesight

[timid bronze]

All you

[latent edge]

I get that a lot

[timid bronze]

Anyways its past 12 am edt

Gts.

[latent edge]

gn silly

[timid bronze]

Gnn

[ocean harbor]

gn

[velvet dagger]

Scammer be ded

[fresh comet]

good night c:

[velvet dagger]

Good night Ally!

[timid bronze]

Wait im jot sleeping yet

i was saying gn to him

im probs staying up till like 3 again

[velvet dagger]

Ohhhhhh

Lmao

Good night Deltoid!

[timid bronze]

@velvet dagger

[velvet dagger]

Hello!

[fresh comet]

[latent edge]

lol im not sleeping either

[timid bronze]

ur of an argument would you rather face someone whos always trying to “win” or someone who disappears mid-conflict is avoidant?

im asking bc

we had a quiz that like

associated us w our argument styles

[timid bronze]

Why not

[latent edge]

weekend

[velvet dagger]

Ohhh I don't like either tbh... Hmmmmm

But okay here's a question about the avoidance

Is it "I'm gonna step back so this doesn't turn into a huge fight but things will be fully back to normal later" avoidant?

[timid bronze]

Wow ok LIER not complying with the 12 am edt rule

[cursive fossil]

p ull out a gun

[velvet dagger]

Or "I'm gonna just vanish and then try to pretend things are okay but resentment is building" avoidant?

I question whether that's the right strat

[timid bronze]

that dami

[velvet dagger]

I think trying to win is better in that case

[timid bronze]

i wouldnt call leaving midway too avoidant if its to cool down the heat

i mean someone like

who wont try to find a common ground w u at all or resolve

just walks away

[velvet dagger]

Yeah we don't resolve anything and resentment festers. That's bad and I'd rather someone try to win a lot

Esp if the persistent trying to win is like... Not hurting each other?

[timid bronze]

I see

[velvet dagger]

Like maybe we're just being debate types which... Frankly I can be a bit of one myself. Like if we almost find it fun to try to win but at the end we're on good terms

[timid bronze]

for me its the possibility hard headedness

people who always try to win

r so hard headed

[timid bronze]

hi little animal

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I mean that is fair. I guess I find hard headed almost the lesser of two evils compared to resentment. Resentment is just corrosive

[fresh comet]

[velvet dagger]

Ideally the answer is neither

[fresh comet]

wait, this question didn't parse in my head

[timid bronze]

its two diff arguing styles

[fresh comet]

what is the latter arguing style?

[velvet dagger]

Imo best way is... Okay if we both like to debate a lot but it's fun debate and when we really get down to the serious discussions we're willing to admit we're wrong

[timid bronze]

they wont talk and resolve the issue with u

[fresh comet]

the one about disappearing mid conflict

[fresh comet]

ah

[timid bronze]

or stay quiet about problems

and let it build up

[fresh comet]

I would rather the former

[timid bronze]

have u argued with both before

[fresh comet]

it's easier for me to swallow my pride and concede an argument if it means that we won't have any problems down the line

[timid bronze]

one or the other or

neither

[timid bronze]

i mean it could

someone who always wants the win

could completely disregard ur feelings

[velvet dagger]

Hmmm... I think most of the time it's not strictly in one of those archetypes but I think more the "win" type than the latter

[fresh comet]

[timid bronze]

My friend was telling me how

their friend argues ab idiotic things but they argue it well its convincing

i wanna see it so bad 😭

[fresh comet]

is this person my friend, in this hypothetical?

[timid bronze]

Yes

[fresh comet]

darn, I really miscalculated when I decided that I should befriend this person

[desert sigil]

Hello

[fresh comet]

I think I might have to reconsider now that I know these are supposed to be friends

and not randoms

[desert sigil]

Would you guys mind out if I nerd out about structural proofs lol

[fresh comet]

I don't really want to argue with either

[fresh comet]

well, you're free to, but you might have more success with an audience in, say, #math-discussion

[desert sigil]

Ah

[timid bronze]

Ideally not

i just wanted to see what

Would be picked

[fresh comet]

both situations are very undesirable

[timid bronze]

for me i personally wouldnt bother arguing with someone who argues just to win

u already know ur opinions r going to be unheard of

whats da point

and the avoider errr um… oh resentment it is ig even though resentments rough

[fresh comet]

I don't have infinite patience when it comes to dealing with the former, and I don't have infinite compassion for the latter

[timid bronze]

idt ive ever personally personally resented a close friend

nearly but

i held it

and good thing i did

[fresh comet]

~~my bad ~~

I'm the kind of person to avoid confrontation in order to keep good relations

even if it ends up forcing me to make some sacrifices

[velvet dagger]

Oh yeah this is I think more okay as long as it's more in trivial matters. But if in serious points of tension with someone the person prefers to win than to see the other's pov that's not great

[fresh comet]

I probably need to learn to grow a spine sometime

[velvet dagger]

Like it's fun to debate

But idk if person A hurt person B

And then when they have a discussion about it

[fresh comet]

yeah it's definitely problematic if person A is too headstrong to admit they made a mistake

I guess if person B is the headstrong one, then it's not a problem in this particular situation

[velvet dagger]

Maybe person B is just feeling hurt over nothing and there's a world where person A is gonna be like "Yeah I need to justify why I think I acted right"

[fresh comet]

but I feel like those who're always trying to win are also much more likely to harm those around them

[velvet dagger]

But then other times person A needs to be like "Yeah okay lemme hear you out, and if there's a world in which I acted wrong, I want to know it, acknowledge it, and (start working to) rectify it"

If person A always wants to win, they'll find a way to haggle a defense even if at fault. Either it'll be combative and hurt things more

Or you'll actually convince B that you were right, and that's in manipulative territory

[timid bronze]

i cant get myself to be friends w someone who cant ever admit theyre wrong

its one of the most annoying traits a person can have

[timid bronze]

true

[fresh comet]

have you met many people with this attribute?

have they been common in your life?

oh

I see

[timid bronze]

yes

on the real yes

they either just deflect or

find excuses that dont make sense

/shift the blame

[timid bronze]

Common?? i mean no not really anymore

im kind of picky with who i befriend now but

i wouldnt say its ever been an overall common occurrence

just a couple

[velvet dagger]

I do know a fair number of people with that degree of stubbornness (sorry was typing for a while had to step away from computer)

And how I approach it depends on my dynamic with the person somewhat

[fringe summit]

Meeeee

[timid bronze]

no not u

[timid bronze]

what if i was stubborn

😂

[velvet dagger]

LMAOOOOOOO if that stubbornness came up early when I met you I prob would've just kept my distance or smth. Now that we're friends and I know who you are deep down I'd try much more to get through to you :P

[tender orchid]

@reef carbon thanks again

[timid bronze]

ok im gonna be stubborn now

[timid bronze]

Oh, how quaint it is that you believe persistence will unravel me. Pathetic, you dumb sloth. Your feeble attempts are nothing but a slow dance with futility, and I assure you the labyrinth you face is far beyond your grasp. Proceed if you must, but be warned, some doors should never be opened by the likes of you.

[fresh comet]

I'd have probably spoken to you in the server, but never made an attempt to get closer

[fresh comet]

you'd be the sort of user I show kindness to every now and then when I see you around, but not a friend

at least, I think so

it never happened

so idk

[ivory notch]

xD

[fresh comet]

I love this so much

thank you for making this 🤍

[ivory notch]

🙏

[timid bronze]

Oh, so you’d have stuck to hollow chatter and never bothered to actually know me? That sounds about right, Higher. Guess some people prefer shallow noise over anything worth their time. Lucky for you I don’t need your effort to be anything. /j

[fresh comet]

this is probably going to sound a bit strange

[fringe summit]

Bruh

[fringe summit]

[fresh comet]

but I'm genuinely impressed by your ability to play the part of a narcissist when you want to

[timid bronze]

what

girl ai is typing that

not me

[fresh comet]

oh

I thought you were writing these

[timid bronze]

i dont wanna be told im good at plating playing..

that sounds wrong

[fresh comet]

my bad

I apologize

[ivory notch]

Well you can try to make them admit they're wrong, they will look back and appreciate it hehe.

[twin flicker]

what is happening

[timid bronze]

We were talking about diff argument styles

one being competitive

talking about how competitive ppl r stubborn

[velvet dagger]

It is not only quaint, it is accurate. Every door has its key

[timid bronze]

so i jokingly play a stubborn person

and higher says

Hey u play good as a narcissist

Like.

THAt IS

NOT GOOD TO HEAR

[fresh comet]

I'm so sorry

[timid bronze]

Its ok

[timid bronze]

Im not a good actor tho

I lowkey cant cry on the spot

Idk how actors do it

[fresh comet]

I can't even cry at all

teach me how to cry

[ivory notch]

aww😎

[timid bronze]

let it goo

let it goo

cant hold it back anymoee

idk how to explain

i just genuinely let it out

im a pretty expressive person so

[ivory notch]

Wait for rain, go outside, cry a bit so it doesn't look like you're crying, go back.

[timid bronze]

if i feel like im gonna burst into tears im gonna

[fresh comet]

[runic canyon]

pepper spray. ez. thanks bruv

[fresh comet]

I've forgotten how to tear up after all this time

[timid bronze]

No cuz

and dont say sorry pls

[velvet dagger]

I don't really cry at all nowadays. When I was a kid I was more of someone who would cry but when I lived in Morocco there was a huge sentiment of men don't cry etc so yeah since then not much anymore

[timid bronze]

Ive moved on and its been years

My 2nd ex broke up w me when i was in health class.

I bursted at my table n my teacher told me get off my phone and pay attention

Like girl.

[fresh comet]

I sort of want to learn how to cry again, to like, reclaim my humanity in a sense

if that makes sense

not being able to makes me feel like an emotionless robot

[timid bronze]

men can cry
and your mental health matters
please dont listen to this dumb society

[fresh comet]

oof

[velvet dagger]

Goddamn

[runic canyon]

frankly thats an ability you'd be better off with if you mastered it. i took finals when my dad was in ICU having heart surgery, all i did was tryna forget it, i could've just cried myself in the restroom but i didnt, and i came out the other side a better man

[fresh comet]

I did it with some emotions

[timid bronze]

oh um im sorry to hear that

[fresh comet]

I want to do it with crying and empathy

[fresh comet]

oh geez
is your father okay now?

I really hope he's doing well

[runic canyon]

yes thankfully

[jagged pendant]

Oooof

[runic canyon]

he'll survive

[fresh comet]

I'm glad to hear c:

[timid bronze]

i cant really “master” it though im just an expressive person and it hurts me more if i just hold it in

[junior veldt]

oh higher, I’m so sorry it’s hard for you…

[timid bronze]

i feel better letting it out

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I mean, idk this might be less a good/bad thing and more lateral

[timid bronze]

im glad to hear

[fresh comet]

I don't know if it's anything to be sorry about

[velvet dagger]

Some people need to live in their emotions a while and that's how they move on

[runic canyon]

i cried that day when he came back from hospital, but no not at work. sadly we live in a world where we cannot show weakness to those we know nought of

[twin flicker]

what if u are a narcissist

[timid bronze]

Can promise you im not

[velvet dagger]

Others, if they live in their grief, will not feel much better, maybe the grief just grows, so they might (at times) need to just kinda force the grief to pass asap and then afterwards hope the wounds heal

[fresh comet]

she is not, believe me

[velvet dagger]

Also I do see what you mean

[junior veldt]

I guess in my case, I always felt upset pre-transition about how hard it was for me to cry

[velvet dagger]

Tbh idk if my lack of crying nowadays is much a function of Morocco vs... Hmm... I still get sad but my sadness takes a very different form

[fresh comet]

I'm happy that you seem to be doing better now

[junior veldt]

sooooo much better :D

[velvet dagger]

Tbh more of my negative emotions are anxiety and despair than sadness? Loneliness on and off hits hard. And I'm not sure if those would've illicited a crying reaction in child Dami or not, the stuff that would upset me was very different back in the day

[timid bronze]

i think when it comes to emotions you need to learn to be kind to yourself and understand you have feelings

its ok to be sad

its ok to cry

its ok to be mad

[fresh comet]

I was just about to say, all of my negative emotions these days are anxiety and despair

[timid bronze]

whats not ok is projecting it onto other people

[fresh comet]

I haven't yet found a good way to cope with them

I just let them simmer and fester

[velvet dagger]

Okay I think because the majority of my encounters with angry people are those who project, get angry over bs, or otherwise have issues, I have a huge hatred to the idea of anger

[fresh comet]

and throw me into an abyss each time

[timid bronze]

fair though i dont think you should have hatred with anger. what matters is how its controlled

[velvet dagger]

Sadness yeah but I have a very strict yet vague mental idea of "When it's okay to be angry"

[timid bronze]

someone whos upset with you all the time can ruin your day as much as an angry person can

[fresh comet]

anger is interesting

I try not to interact with many people if I'm irritated to that extent

[velvet dagger]

And deviating from that, even slightly and I might think "Yeah nah this is invalid anger or invalid display of anger you've got problems I lost a portion of my respect"

[timid bronze]

i mean i only run away if they project their feelings into another human being

[velvet dagger]

And I might be a bit more strict/unforgiving than most people for what I consider valid when it comes to anger

[timid bronze]

but this can happen with any emotion

not just anger

[fresh comet]

to lower my risk of accidentally uh, doing or saying smth I shouldn't in a moment of poor judgement

[timid bronze]

anger shouldnt be seen as a bad thing

anger is ok if not projected

[jagged pendant]

I can relate to that

[velvet dagger]

Sadness I have a huge tolerance threshold, like even if I feel the sadness level is unwarranted or unreasonable in its extent, I'll indulge

[twin flicker]

people dont judge you for your feelings only your actions its fine to feel angry or whatever

[timid bronze]

but i do agree, if i see someone w anger issues punching a whole door (true story by the way) im leaving (and i did cut them off)

[fringe summit]

Good

[twin flicker]

im not strong enough to punch doors 😔

[timid bronze]

i mean some doors r lighter than others

but yea he punched an entire hole

[fringe summit]

3 days of mourning then go on fr

[twin flicker]

holy

[timid bronze]

his mom just took down his door so he had no door for his bedroom

[jagged pendant]

I mean true, it's definitely okay to be angry. I hate it when people use it as an excuse though. "Oh, I know I hurt you, but it's only because I was angry. I didn't mean it. It wont happen again" then it happen literally not a while after

[runic canyon]

i once removed the door knob from the door tryna open it but i wasnt mad just normal strength anyway we all laughed at this

[timid bronze]

this can happen with any emotions though

not purely anger

[twin flicker]

damn bruh

[timid bronze]

i just feel like this convo is kinda painting anger in a bad light

[twin flicker]

how do i become brolic like this

does anyone else use meat thermometers to cook chicken apparently its a normal thing

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I mean... Tbh to me it is mostly in a bad light? Idk maybe I'm too unforgiving on this regard because I have seen vanishingly few cases of people who manage their anger in what I would think is an acceptable way

[runic canyon]

funny part is its not the whole door knob got detached from the door the fricking handle broke in two

[jagged pendant]

Mostly anger though, some people do irrational decisions just because they can't control their anger

[timid bronze]

sadness can lead to hurtful actions

much like anger

anger isn’t inherently toxic

[velvet dagger]

So it's like, having had to keep dealing with people who handle anger in a not okay way, while not having dealt with people whose sadness is particularly harmful (draining a bit but not harmful in the way that anger can be), I have a way higher tolerance for the latter

[timid bronze]

emotions shouldnt be seen as “good” or “bad”

there’s no rightful emotion to feel

what matters is what you choose to do with your hands or voice

[jagged forge]

that’s what you learn to do in a professional environment pretend not to be angry while dealing with stupid bullshit

[timid bronze]

not how you feel

[twin flicker]

your thoughts and feelings dont matter that much only your actions

yeah

[fringe summit]

For very careful but new chefs sure

[runic canyon]

real if you wanna cry or punch someone take a moment to collect yourself in the bathroom your innocent coworkers dont need more trouble to soothe your feelings

[fringe summit]

It’s a safeguard

[velvet dagger]

I guess if I had more examples of healthy anger I'd be less breh about it. But almost everyone I know (at most double digit number of exceptions (possibly single digit tbh) over nearly 28 years) is "Doesn't really get angry much at all" or "Handles anger badly in a way that harms others"

[twin flicker]

idk im just trying to cook chicken breast ong

[jagged pendant]

Sotrue

[runic canyon]

how you even cook with sth that measures temperature

[timid bronze]

i mean i get it

my mom has anger issues and uh has done things to me

but i think its unfair to label anger as toxic

we tell people stop blaming their emotions, correct?

so anger shouldnt be blamed

the person should

their actions

[velvet dagger]

Oh yeah I guess it's less that I blame the person's action instead of the person so much as...

[twin flicker]

wdym

[velvet dagger]

Like I legitimately do not remember the last time I saw someone who was angry and managed it right

[jagged pendant]

Well, yeah. Anger is a normal emotion. I agree that it shouldn't be labeled as either good/bad. Its just that I wish some people knew how to deal with it

[timid bronze]

This stereotypes anger though and we know stereotypes are unfair

[timid bronze]

Completely fair

i dont like it when people cant control their emotions either

[timid bronze]

dami u have felt anger before, havent u?

and u controlled it well

knowing who u are as a person

[velvet dagger]

Actually this might become a definitional thing. Because I don't know exactly when it turns from... Something, to anger

Like hmmm

[jagged forge]

someone can be inwardly angry and outwardly stern or firm

[velvet dagger]

"Hey, I am not okay with what you're doing, this needs to stop, etc" is vaguely in the direction of anger but idk if it is itself anger?

[jagged forge]

sometimes i see a code submission at work and i think “what the fuck are you doing” and then i breathe and write down “i think this is the wrong direction for XYZ”

[velvet dagger]

I guess frustration and resentment are emotions I definitely feel. But do you go from that to anger? Idk

[timid bronze]

well for me itd be frustration > anger > resentment

i cant resent u if u havent wronged me enough

and the more u wrong me without fixing ur mistakes the more u frustrate me and lead me to being angry

[velvet dagger]

Hmmm... I think they're almost different. Frustration is more of losing patience, resentment is inward but I now kinda hate you

And then anger... idk it's weird

[timid bronze]

joe carrot’ing everything

🥕

Bunny

[twin flicker]

carrots

[timid bronze]

😂

[velvet dagger]

So yeah I guess it's hard to categorize cleanly and maybe that's why we're disagreeing somewhat. I might look at a situation and think "Oh there's no anger here"

But yeah I think the thing I can definitely say is, I have much heavier limits on what I'm willing to tolerate when it comes to anger people show

[jagged pendant]

LOL

[velvet dagger]

Like if someone's sad and breaks down over what I think is nothing (and this is someone I care about), I can have so much patience to walk them through it

[timid bronze]

i just think there should be more understanding with the emotion

someone being upset can be frustrating in many ways. people who claim theyre “upset” can rain on other peoples parades out of jealousy

my bad i do not mean will, i meant can

[velvet dagger]

Someone raises their voice when I think it's uncalled for and I either want to not be in that person's vicinity or to shut that down, harshly if needed

[timid bronze]

someone shouting isnt only to do w anger

u can shout when ur upset too

doesnt mean ur angry

[jagged forge]

yeah i tend to take the view that anger should really be kept on a tight leash

[velvet dagger]

Hmmm... I think this is where the definitions might collide

Oh wait you mean like

Idk sad type upset and they shout?

[jagged forge]

like shouting at no one in particular?

[timid bronze]

yes

like shouting isnt only associated with being angry

[velvet dagger]

Tbh I don't know if I've ever seen that irl lmao

[timid bronze]

well it happens

[jagged forge]

they r just angry at the world

[velvet dagger]

Unless it's like, sobbing while venting?

Hmmm

But yeah I tend to think of anger as just, being upset at someone or something, not well-controlled, and displayed in a harsh way

[timid bronze]

everyone expresses emotions differently based off their background, life, and how safe they feel being emotional with others

anger isnt solely complaining

[jagged forge]

anger = upset at some perceived wrong or injustice

[velvet dagger]

Hmmm

So I guess resentment is a subset of anger then? Hmm

[timid bronze]

setting boundaries can be out of anger

crying can be out of anger

[jagged forge]

sometimes someone doesn’t really show it overtly in a harsh way, but you can definitely feel the anger lol

[timid bronze]

protection can be out of anger

[jagged forge]

like a simmering type of thing

[timid bronze]

all these emotions r beautiful and apart of our health

[velvet dagger]

I don't quite see the protection anger thing

[timid bronze]

what i think should really be considered is what’s done or responded with

[fringe summit]

If you don’t know how maybe use one

[timid bronze]

when u see ur friend being harassed

do u stand up for them and tell the aggressor to back off?

ur angry at their actions

the anger pushes u to step in

[velvet dagger]

Ah... Hmmm yeah I guess I don't really think much about my own emotional state in that type of situation tbh

Like I almost imagine myself as a robot somehow. Okay this person needs to get shut down

So I will shut this person down

[jagged pendant]

I will shut this person down 🤖

[velvet dagger]

I think I just tend to bury a lot of my emotions tbh

[timid bronze]

so if u think about it

anger can be a form of love

[tidal cedar]

Hello people again

Morning to all

[timid bronze]

that defense right there

is a form of love

ur doing it for ur friend

[jagged forge]

that does not automatically make it justified or good

[timid bronze]

wdym

[jagged forge]

depends on what or who you are defending and in what context

[timid bronze]

ur defending ur friend being harassed

it was ur anger that pushed u to go out and defend them

[jagged forge]

many people will defend their friends or relatives as a knee jerk reaction, even if they might have done something bad

[timid bronze]

because u saw how they were being treated

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I think she's gunning for another point. That like okay your anger about the situation can lead you to do something good, therefore anger can be okay

[timid bronze]

but then thats on their actions not their emotions

i think u cant say dont blame ur emotions and label anger as something bad

but it can plenty lead to bad for sure

[jagged forge]

sure, it can be good or bad

i don’t really think most situations in life are cut and dry like an aggressor harassing someone, though

that’s why anger needs to be kept on a tight leash

[timid bronze]

i was giving an example of how anger can be healthy because i felt it was being painted poorly

[timid bronze]

this should ideally be the same for other emotions like sadness and anxiety

take anxiety for example

[velvet dagger]

And yeah that's a fair point. I tend to just have my own emotions buried or under a tight leash in those kinds of situations

[timid bronze]

u have an extremely anxious parent who tends to be a helicopter

overprotects you and doesnt let you learn

every emotion needs control

[jagged forge]

i don’t really think most emotions have an outsized immediate impact on others the way anger does

fundamentally it is you asserting yourself

[fresh comet]

I’ve been lurking because I felt like this conversation had been interesting to read, but I think it’s getting real late for me and I’m gonna go to bed now

[jagged forge]

and yes, sometimes that is necessary and good

[fresh comet]

have a wonderful night everybody c:

[jagged forge]

good night higher

[timid bronze]

i think thatd be based off ur life experiences

[junior veldt]

good night higher❤️

[timid bronze]

ive lived w my moms anger issues and kinda learned to put up with it

gnn higher

[velvet dagger]

And yeah that's why I tend to imagine myself as rarely getting angry. If it happens I never live in it too much or try to convert it immediately to a different form of upsetness

[timid bronze]

i only felt anger was kinda being painted in a bad light earlier so i chimed in

[velvet dagger]

Good night higher! Sweet dreams

[timid bronze]

because i honestly rarely see any good talked about anger

only bad

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I think when it's controlled people tend to call it something else tbh

[timid bronze]

and leads to people suppressing their emotions

because they dont want to be “toxic”

when its not toxic

and in the end it just hurts them more

[velvet dagger]

Oh wait yeah no I definitely suppress stuff hard LMAO

[timid bronze]

and that can lead to resentment

[jagged forge]

i broadly agree that it is important and essential, but i think we disagree to what extent it should be trusted

[timid bronze]

i meant ill never support projection of any emotions

so if that anger leads to hurting someone, i do not agree

[jagged forge]

i mean i almost never react on gut anger unless it’s something really egregious or something that’s happened like 10 times in a row

[jagged forge]

well that’s the thing, sometimes you kind of have to step on someone else’s toes to assert yourself meaningfully

so you better be sure you’re right

[velvet dagger]

I guess the idea is that ideally that's more deliberate than emotional?

[timid bronze]

well id think it’s different if its bettering or hurting them

[velvet dagger]

Like you intellectually decide hey I need to be firm or harsh to this person for XYZ goal and that's what decided your response

Rather than your emotional state

[jagged forge]

well, we can try to be intellectual about it, i dunno if it actually works that way in practice

like you still remember the anger a little bit

[timid bronze]

i mean dami genuinely have u never been angry before seeing idk .. some bad people on the internet

saying some nasty comments

about idk

comments that r racist maybe even

or just anyone who has completely wronged u or deliberately hurt u

not just a 1 or 2 oopsie

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I mean... I guess my thing is to try and change it to a different kind of emotion quickly somehow. Or just kinda put emotions completely to the side. I think because I just have such a bad experience with other people's anger I try to bury my own or keep it under a leash

[timid bronze]

well id be cautious of that. im still going to emphasize its ok to be angry within reason and respectfully

[velvet dagger]

So like if someone's being racist or bigoted online, I kinda think okay if I have agency to shut it down I shut it down, if not I try to remove myself from the situation, I might have some judgement but it's not very strong emotionally. Just kinda, okay you suck, anyway moving on

[timid bronze]

im asking whether or not you feel something internally

not if u do something specifically to them

(ugh my retainers r downstairs when i came back upstairs the 3rd time brb i dislike being forgetful..)

[velvet dagger]

Thing is it's hard to say, in small situations I try to ignore emotion.

As for situations with people who wrong me that are more firmly in my life, usually it just turns into something else. Like idk there's basically one main example of this in recent memory, from a few years ago

[timid bronze]

i see

[velvet dagger]

And I feel like emotionally... I guess I imagined myself as being hurt, and it basically evolved into apathy/contempt

So whenever I maybe started to feel angry (or even hurt tbh) I was like okay the strat here is to just kinda numb myself a bit. Took a while but worked

[timid bronze]

i just wanna say that like

sadness can lead to guilt tripping which isnt great

shut down others

act passive aggressive

manipulate others (oh the worst)

its not only anger that can be bad

[timid bronze]

ik its easier said than done

[fringe summit]

Good night

[timid bronze]

though i think u should try to be more understandable of how u feel

[velvet dagger]

But yeah my kinda mental model here is my dad who I've almost never seen angry in my entire life. Which I think is somewhat deliberate, like he said our family is definitely prone to holding grudges (myself included) and he didn't want to be that way

[velvet dagger]

Yeah that might be the strat for sure

[timid bronze]

i mean this reminds me of a woman who said

she cant be in relationships right now because she doesnt know how to handle being in arguments without running away

shes never seen her parents argue before

so she thinks arguing is a problem and means the relationship needs to end

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I mean... His system definitely worked very well. He's as unbothered as can be without being apathetic in a bad way if that makes any sense

[timid bronze]

i just think avoiding it entirely will not make it emotionally healthy rather emotionally unprepared for when you have to deal with it. just like the argument example

[velvet dagger]

So he gets very concerned for example, about me and my mom and everything, but he's permanently calm when it comes to anger and such. He still has negative impressions of people but it just doesn't seem to... "Get to him"

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I see what you're getting at

[timid bronze]

yeah i understand

[velvet dagger]

Yee

[timid bronze]

Btw IM SO SORRY RHTIS went on for like forever

idk if i was yapping at any point

[velvet dagger]

Nah this was a really interesting conversation! Basically always down for stuff like this!

[simple sphinx]

sup guys

[twin flicker]

is your pfp psekai @timid bronze

[velvet dagger]

Hello

[tender heron]

Gn clau

[timid bronze]

na

[velvet dagger]

Bro texted gn back hours later

[tender heron]

When I woke up Yess, and now clau is supposed to be sleeping

[velvet dagger]

Fair enough lol

[timid bronze]

@jagged pendant @steel vessel welll this is pretty..

i might actually fr settle here if i cant find a cherry blossom biome

but Omfg i need to sleep now its 3 IN THE MORNING

GOODNIGHT

[tender heron]

Still playing????

Good night!!

[timid bronze]

all these hours no

i just hopped on

for like 20 mins

[tender heron]

Do you have a house already?

[timid bronze]

i think i overall played like 3.5

yea i do but im so far away from it

[tender heron]

Ooffff

[timid bronze]

i dont even remember where it is

[tender heron]

Don't die

[timid bronze]

Nah dw i barely stored anything in there

[velvet dagger]

Good night Ally!

[tender heron]

But it's a house

[timid bronze]

IT was tiny

[timid bronze]

i might do a little this moment

(not my pic)

[tender heron]

Ooff, wanted to say you should build there

[timid bronze]

oh i 100% wouldve

ive just been

searching for a cherry biome for so long now

[tender heron]

Surround it with pink trees

[timid bronze]

😔

[tender heron]

Can't find it?

Are you in the right version?

[timid bronze]

Yea

im playing

1.21.5

which is pretty new

[tender heron]

Oh right, yeah, let's hope there is a pink biome near

[timid bronze]

Smh theyre so rare

my friend told me theres a way to check actually if u get ur seed

[tender heron]

I like dark oak/spruce biomes, those are fun, so dark

[timid bronze]

but im trying to find it raw

if that even makes sense

LOL

[tender heron]

Makes sense

We don't want a treasure map, we want adventureee

[timid bronze]

Those r cute

snowy ones too esp

[timid bronze]

Reallal

[tender heron]

I like those villages there

And I like the type of wood, make my whole house with it, so cosy

[timid bronze]

i saw a village at a savanna biome i think its whats it called got 9 emeralds from there

[tender heron]

Ooooo

The orange villages right?

[timid bronze]

is there even a cherry blossom village like its built w pink wood XD

[timid bronze]

Ya

[tender heron]

I don't know, I wish there was lol

Would be cute

They should add one fr, and one for in the wailing woods

[timid bronze]

ikr

[tender heron]

Okay, good night now ally

[timid bronze]

GNN

[timid bronze]

GN

[fringe summit]

gn

[rain rock]

i

[pastel blade]

good morning

[pastel blade]

good morning

[long matrix]

sharks in there

they bite

[floral cargo]

hello

[quasi pagoda]

greetings

[floral cargo]

gd to meet u

[visual breach]

Ahhh math is too hard, I want to do precisely nothing

[floral cargo]

yeah

[pine dirge]

Fuck you

[visual breach]

Mean

[fallen nebula]

1+1

Anyone?

[neat lintel]

2

[fallen nebula]

I submit to the almighty king; the rightful ruler of this era has been discovered

[jagged pendant]

Beautiful

[old oak]

Wow, such original trolling, your mother must be very proud

[fallen nebula]

Actually I'm an orphan

Dude...

[long matrix]

he's actually not a dude.

[fathom swallow]

outsider7593's Avatar

Click here to view the image.

[fallen nebula]

Then why did you call him "he"?

I'm confused

🙏

[ocean harbor]

she's actually not a dude

[fallen nebula]

Thank you for taking the time to correct yourself

[ocean harbor]

[true zinc]

how is the owl today

[thorn wren]

outsider is an owl not a dude

[old oak]

A dowl

[old oak]

Sleepy and cranky. You?

[true zinc]

Same

[old oak]

I'm so cranky I could be generating proofs of Collatz with ChatGPT

[true zinc]

LOL

[vocal vessel]

Collatz? Never heard of her. Who's she?

[foggy meadow]

Collatz on my conjecture until ....

[vocal vessel]

Buy me a drink first 😳

[old oak]

...until I crank

[old oak]

https://tenor.com/view/mariahcarey-dontknowher-idontknowher-gif-14560621

[vocal vessel]

Yaaas 90s Mariah!

[foggy meadow]

Or until I proof.

[old oak]

When even I was young

[neat lintel]

Who is collatz

[vocal vessel]

We went over this.

Jennifer Lopez

[agile fiber]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lothar_Collatz

[vocal vessel]

That's not j-lo...

[sonic sentinel]

when there will be good weather in yemen--i mean peace ...

• my dad, unprompted

[old oak]

it's just the lighting

[raven plaza]

Owl

[rocky shuttle]

Fox 🦊

[quick beacon]

@slender sky did you ever figure out how to open a help channel? The one we were talking in earlier actually got refreshed instead of locking, so you can just continue talking in it #help-41

[slender sky]

Ahh ok then, thanksss so much

[cyan warren]

hi fellows

[cyan warren]

lol

[old oak]

🦉

[timid bronze]

@steel vessel @jagged forge @velvet dagger Soo when r we playing this game on roblox…

[jagged forge]

WHY in the world are they on all fours

[timid bronze]

LMAOOOOOO

well it is a dog obby where ones the dog and the other one is taking u out on a walk..

[jagged forge]

im never playing this ever

[latent edge]

I have so many questions

Omg

[timid bronze]

LMFAO

[timid bronze]

truu it does get boring after a bit

i played it w my friend a few weeks ago

[latent edge]

Dirty minded people will go crazy over this

[jagged forge]

ok well. no one meant it like that bruh

if anything U are the dirty minded one

[tender heron]

Wait, is this like chained together but on Roblox??

[timid bronze]

Yea

its one of the more boring ones imo

[latent edge]

I'm just saying lol it has happened before with a popular game

[timid bronze]

just kind of funny at first

[latent edge]

It got so bad roblox had to delete it

[timid bronze]

there was this throwing one that i liked better cuz if u have bad aim it can actually get tedious

[simple sphinx]

wassup @timid bronze

[tender heron]

Yeee, cuz you're a dog lolll

[timid bronze]

Right

[ocean harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/anamanaguchi-miku-i'm-thinking-miku-miku-oo-ee-oo-うーいーう-gif-5046691342079042897

[timid bronze]

Heyy

[latent edge]

migu

oo ee oo

[ocean harbor]

migu

[tender heron]

migu

[ocean harbor]

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/k-bye-gif-4227388164495591971

[timid bronze]

wait do u even play roblox

what games

[tender heron]

I do, sometimes. I'm very basic tho, I play obbies only

Parkouring and stuff llol

[ocean harbor]

hi lyc

[timid bronze]

have u tried impossible obby.

[tender heron]

Hi akiraa

[tender heron]

Which one?

[timid bronze]

Uh one sec

[jaunty ibex]

What's the context? I have ally blocked.

[latent edge]

U and ur block drama...

I'll dm instead cuz it's not SFW

[tender heron]

Wanna be friends on Roblox??

[rocky shuttle]

https://tenor.com/view/мику-конвеер-gif-2963319756470836998

[timid bronze]

Nvm google imgs being annoying

let me try tiktok

[tender heron]

This one?

[timid bronze]

Nah

this one

it actually gets hard after a few levels

only not many beat the game entirely

[timid bronze]

Ya sure

[tender heron]

No checkpoint's??

[tender heron]

Ill dm you my user

[timid bronze]

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTjvjfvSA/

im stuck on this one

cant beat it for the life of me

[timid bronze]

oh no there is

[timid bronze]

Oki

[tender heron]

Oh, I couldn't DM my user

[timid bronze]

OH

U can add me on discord too silly

ill send

[tender heron]

I did