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ay i got a random question for anyone with career knowledge/advice. im a math undergrad and i have a chance to get a CS minor by taking a class that is notoriously difficult and unfun over the summer. would my employment prospects improve enough to make the sacrifice worth it or should i not even bother
what is the class
it's low-level programming. assembly, C, pointers, memory management, etc. in theory i would like it but i have hesitations.
i dont think a cs minor is worth the effort but you do you
like it won't meaningfully improve my resume?

this is great news
What about a math minor as a cs major?
Idt employers really care about minors
I'm thinking whether to choose a cs-related minor like ai-ml or do math
Most impactful stuff on resume is previous experience and personal projects
Yes, but if it were just to increase my experience?
Would it be worth the effort?
Well I'm not in college yet
But im going to be doing cs core
So thinking if i want to do ai ml with it
ai
in a couple months
Maybe this is not enough data to give advice idk 
I mean, it would be helpful to take courses to learn about something if that's what you want to do
Yeah my purpose with the minor is more about trying to learn something new than leveraging that for a job
Just wondering if I can handle the workload and it would end up meaning something
not to bombard you with questions - i've been working on a computer algebra program for about a year. is that the sort of project that might be worth investing more time in (like making a GUI) or is that the wrong direction? id like to use my math skills + programming.
No idea
They are likely to care more if your personal project is related to what they are doing
Yeah I understand
Most of my big projects are math related and I saw the experience

At one interview I had to explain why my computer algebra system was related to fintech stuff
horrible experience lol
lmao well i guess i might be a bit fucked with this degree. we'll see i suppose.
I say this because I know 70% of the cs majors here are not doing cs for cs
They burn out pretty quickly after the second year

hello tabby
hello showomark
r u cozy
A good strat is to look at job listings and see what skills and qualifications theyre looking for
and try to pick those up
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heck yeah
what r u up to
stuck on this stupid math problem
real
i think i know how itās supposed to go but idk how to formalize it. sad
is it analysis šØ
ya
YUCKKK
yuck indeed
how would one project an ellipse onto another plane
@dreamy ore Oh ok
given that the original plane has normal vector v and the second plane has normal vector u
whats up
Im taking the test rn
bc we can
but the ellipse is given in planar coordinates in the original plane
but why not dms
Ugh i forgot how long this test is
So i can ping dami
its not that long bro
YES IT IS
Yo wassup
ally pinged u
said smth about
Tyty
Dayum
i love numbers

its why im in the math discord
omg hi higherrr
what test are we taking? 
what is that nickname color :o
hello shiru, ally, Dami, Tabby, suremark 
hi higher!
so true
mbti
last time i took it was like mid hs and i got ENFJ
Ik ive changed so much
so im retaking it
im an infp
lemme take it
i will pretty much always be intp or infp
school and work makes me more introverted fr esp my current job cuzi come to my dorm so tired from socializing
Fuck u
meow
I think I got ENTP-T when I took it some time back
Emotions r important to me but i will often prioritize a fact
But yeah the wording of the questions on these is definitely tricky
yeah infp is most common
Ryc clocked it completely
clocky tea hold the boots
idk about the stats in ur country tho
lol
i just know infp is most common here
Ugh then again it depends.
ah real :] i dont know what it is where i am
more yes though
Numbers and data are objective in most cases, therefore I find it odd that one would not prefer them over emotions
I agree with Ryan

someone gimme a link to this
mbti
thanks
i feel like the strictly following numbers and data approach will somehow inevitably lead to eugenics
I'm disappointed in you, higher.
exactly
"society will be more efficient without all these disabled people, look how much the gdp will increase"
also not everything that matters can be counted
i like numbers and data, but i donāt fool myself into thinking thatās all my decisions are based on
INFP-T
also a lot of sexist arguments rely on like.. data on how hormones affect the body
In this particular case probably not because eugenics is not quite a matter of "Oh it would do the job but it's immoral", as far as I know it also wouldn't work: the science doesn't support this
But as a general principle yeah, there is a common error whereby people try to turn everything into some EV/optimization problem and say okay cool we're getting the objectively correct answers here, but then failing to consider that what you're optimizing for carries built in values
thats what i got too
"Happy anime about a guy supporting the girl he loves"
Twitter: this guy is a fucking r*pist
????
yeah
wtf is wrong with people
IMO No because one should have good ethical bounds which would instantly make you reconsider that
Context
?
Social media
@light horizon higher model theory arc
I don't think that's enough context
Like... Are the people on Twitter making a claim about this person which is false?
T?? unexpected
Yes, so one must always consider the implicit cost function, which is actually why we can never get things done because that implicitly has some values and nothing can be completely neutral in values and AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Yes it is false
thoufht ud defo be F higher
well, then again, I have my own values
But I can't actually think based off those because "that biases me"
what does that T stand for?
ENFJ to INFP i go
idk
but it means ur more factual
less emotionally feeling
You have a sweet anime depicting a guy helping a girl who's wheelchaired
I'm curious as to why you wouldn't expect that 
Then people are like "this guy is a creep this is why men are bad"
Ts are usually not as nice as u
Curious why my assertiveness is low
Id consider myself an assertive person
i dont like a person getting away with shit
I have a history 
real
Ah... Yeah if they're just dishonestly framing him as creepy when it's positive that's fucked up
this intrigues me
this is anti T propaganda smh
long story short, I wasn't always as nice as I ostensibly am now :p
Ig it matters who the person is
Ive definitely given some ppl more chances than i shouldve compared to other ppl bc i felt super close to them but eventually i was like ok u need to go
There's also what I practice vs what I preach
this is what I got
ngl i used to think fomo was like a meme but i get it now since college like i see fomo occassionally in me
Like I tell people to not deal with stuff and to be willing to cut people off etc
a result 
But have definitely been way too patient with people
not entirely unexpected
And been walked over somewhat as a result
Oh once i realize ive been walked over i be going offff on them
Lmfao
i got 98% introverted too!!!
i love being introverted
for me its fomo like sometimes i think its worth fighting for after an experience i had that was worth fighting for
But like sometimes im just like ok nothing is going to change no point
Yeah that's fair
I guess for me the first impression kicks in somewhat hard
So if I like the person enough by the time whatever happens happens, there's a fairly high leniency before I decide enough is enough
Often a bit too much
i mean depends what they do
i have things that r like immediate cut offs for me
no mercy
Idk I guess it's a bit of fomo/I don't generally like losing people
and there r some things ill legit only give a 2nd chance for'
Eh
when i was more extroverted i was getting tired of the energy
i was hoping to cut down my circle. not specific people but having a smaller circle of more meaningful friendships
Gotcha
i have most energy in smaller circles
Hard for me to say what my shtick is when it comes to energy. I think I have some friendships which naturally tend to the forefront, circles I tend to be more active in than others
It helps when it's a small to medium sized group which is super super active
Omg social media is fucking insane. Don't women want a good man that supports them and do all the nice stuff like how is this not the baseline woman fantasy
I am also an MBTI logician. I only just realized how fitting that is.
This is funny
I guess I'll start doing model theory with you then
i mean there r some things ill do w a large group of ppl
like karaoke if its all ppl ik
Not super close but know
I can't speak for others super easily but yeah I could def see some ideas toward "What do you look for in a partner" being warped by the internet
today i am an INTP
Seems like you had fun!
LMAO
u and half the server
Yeah I get it some women just have bad experience and want to project so hard and make men look bad every single time they get the chance
Oh yea i js remembered
A friend offered to paint my nails for me tonight
I need to hurry up playing n go.
ooooo nice
Link the site maybe I'll do this test again for the umpteenth time
I always get different results 
Cool
I don't think I've ever gotten ENTJ before but here we are LOL
i always get something different in these things smh
ich habe paranoide schizophrenie
where's the test link 
the one thing I'm definitely not is observant š«”
scroll up
whew u learn something new about urself every day i guessā¦
iāve never tested anything other than infp or intp
wtf 
Thing is, I feel like the wording of the questions and your mood on that day kinda influence the responses a good bit
So yeah it def makes sense that the test changes
ok INFP-T is the one I get most often so it's fine
true about the mood dami
also sometimes I just answer real quickly and in either extreme of the scale and other times I actually think it through
this time I did quick and extreme lol
definitely feel that, i think i was barely assertive last time and now iām barely leaning towards turbulent
the questions about prioritizing facts vs feelings are kind of annoying cuz like
Hello
i mean in a way other peopleās feelings are kind of facts 
especially if you work on a team idk
so itās always context dependent for me
yeah a lot of these questions I feel would change depending on context
and now that I think of it I've always gotten results closer to 50% in nearly all these scales

today I just decided to answer in a particularly extreme way disregarding nuance
yea i was gonna say lol
it's still fairly accurate tho
like maybe I can adapt but this is closer to my default state lol
hmm
I've gotten INTJ when younger because of this
nowadays I think I've gotten far more "FP" in general though
Please don't advertise here
oops i killed
lol im not alone
tbh im kinda happy i dont get INTJ anymore
it's still INTJ but replace I->E

I->E would be a cheat code tho
wdym by cheat code?
just that a lot of successful people are stereotypically extroverted lol
it's a skill that can be trained
or faked to some extent lol
treat networking as a job and then have some alone time to yourself
i think networking got a lot better since uni
i did not like the idea of socializing in high school
true
that is a certified hot take
this is a normal take i think\
like these?
Somewhat hot take since people like sugar cookies but honestly they are fairly mid
hate is a strong word
Without the frosting or anything
i donāt hate them, theyāre just ok
mid is pretty apt ig
yeah the frosting makes them better lol
true
no the ones dami sent
but ngl those too w the frodting
both r ew
yea it is
sugar cookies
(i actually really like oatmeal raisin)
oatmeal raisins r tolerable
i can fake like oatmeal raisin
i cant w sugar cookies
they usually have a bit of spice which is nice
Discussion and discussion 2 are so different lol
i find d1 to be rapid fire fast and i dont like that
makes it harder for me to read convos
each has their own merits, imo
sometimes the speed is good, because things get buried faster
which things though
because bad things shouldnt be buried it should be seen and reported
I should say, my things
it's a weird feeling where I sometimes just don't like some of my messages being out in the open for a super long time for everybody to read
weāre doing astrology now?
way better than footmeal raisin
Yeah regrettably ryc is correct here
Sugar cookies roflstomp oatmeal raisin
No diff
Agreed.
great
im okay, how are you
good š
that's good
thx
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sugar cookies are in an equivalence class with shortbread
the equivalence class is called "boring"
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I reached for the ban button
My bad homedawg
gifs get so annoying after the third or so time they loop
no
i think raisins and dates r some of like the most gross fruits ever but
Raisin cookie 1000x more tolerable than a sugar cookie
what's cookin with raisins and datess
Gn ally
Gn deltoid
Bro cool ahh name theme
Gn
You were so close
No, boring is just a field
thats def true
Good morning ryc
Raisins and dates are fine for me
But I think any kind of dried fruit is gross
What about mango or apple slices :(
Or banana with peanut butter

As I said, I don't like any kind of dried fruit
Not even, say, dried mango?
same
literally!!!!!!
Same

what time was it fornu
yay discussion 2!
I have no idea how Im gonna do this
basically for my uni I need to do a math test cuz I wanna study engineering, now the belgium system is very special and bassicaly I had 5 hours of math a week instead of 6
and you need to learn everything the people with 6 hours of math have learned to complete the test, but the problem is is that I dont really have a clear guide as to what I do and dont know compared to them because we see the same topics but they see them more in-depth
which topics?
literally everything from 1st grade to senior year can be included
well whats the senior year material
wait a min, there was a bundel with exercices that I found this is the translated version
1 READY?
1.1 Basic calculation skills
1.2 Matrices and systems
1.3 Functions and graphs
1.4 Inverse function
1.5 Exponential and logarithmic functions, trigonometric functions
1.6 Limits
1.7 Derivatives
1.8 Integrals
1.9 Trigonometry, plane geometry and vector calculations
1.10 Solid geometry
1.11 Polynomials
1.12 Complex numbers
1.13 Problems
1.14 Counting problems / probability / statistics
SET?
2 Graphical and geometrical representations: basics
2.1 Graphical representations
2.2 Geometrical representations
3 Working with formulas: basics
3.1 Calculation skills
3.2 Matrices and systems of equations
3.3 Trigonometric equations
3.4 Polynomials
3.5 Complex numbers
3.6 Counting problems / probability / statistics
4 Mathematical analysis: basics
4.1 Real functions: sign chart, domain, limits
4.2 Derivatives
4.3 Integrals
GO!
5 Graphical and geometrical representations, problems: challenge
6 Working with formulas: challenge
6.1 Calculation skills
6.2 Matrices and systems of equations
6.3 Trigonometric equations
6.4 Polynomials
6.5 Complex numbers
6.6 Counting problems / probability / statistics
So these are the subjects but like for exampel complex numbers like yeah I know yk quite a bit about them but as I've found out not enough but theres no like guide to study what I have to know other than just the subjects
You might want to censor number 5
not really I mean its a big school idc but sure
Im not getting doxed from that haha
but yeah so its a lot of stuff and Ive attempted a practice exam and got about 12/30 but u need 19/30 to pass
and how confident do you feel with the material besides complex numbers, derivatives, integrals, and probability/statistics
certain things I definitely still have to learn like absolute values I basically havent seen
questions like
how many solutions does this have
|x-1| = x^2 + 1
how long until the exam?
there are 2 and I can participate in both
the first is juli 1st
which ideally I pass
well these are simple enough if you know the rules
but the other one is august 28th
yeah the thing is like Its not that im not smart enough to solve the questions the ones I can do I can do, I just cant know the things ive never learned
yk
yeah makes sense. so you need to memorize a good bit of material in a short time. its certainly doable but youll have to work hard
also the exam is without a calculator so its hard to confirm certain things
youll also want to practice a lot
yeah its exam season now but during lunches ive been sitting together with my teacher and just solving questions that I dont know how to answer and stuff
thats the way to do it
spend some time at home as well
see if you can do them without guidance
mhm
is there anyway here to ask yk a lot of questions
or maybe I can just ask ai these days?
cuz theyre like okay with lower level math, no?
like for example here yk after this i have 18 questions I need to understand how to solve
nah just ask in this discord in the appropriate channels
okay okay
thanks
@woven rapids can you vouch for @leaden skiff in evanvivor, he wants to spectate
Hello yes i would like to spectate
dupid wyc
is evanvivor some survivor game
Alright
hi everyone
is everyone on discussion 1 or smt
hi
hi
how are u sleepy
im good
wbu wakey
im good
i guess it only the two of us here
yeah i guess
do you think the world would be different if you disappeared on day?
i dont think so
same
why am i even talking with my self
cuz ur sictzo dumass
You think no one loves you, you think that you are ugly, you think you are short, you want to disappear because you think you are a disappointment
well thats true
ok
ok
bye wakey
bye sleepy
?
I said everypony in the message prior but the thing you find cringe is me asking how are you
Lmfao.
just me? no, it would hardly change. but id worry about loved ones
its not that you dont matter, its just that not everyone knows you, and not everyone will. but even if you dont always feel good about how you look, there are still people whose day gets better just because you exist
people who are "stereotypically attractive" can still have bad attitudes and ruin others days
sometimes its hard to feel seen or appreciated, but you matter more than you realize. even if it doesnt always feel that way. we all have good and bad days, and we all affect people around us, even in small ways
Nice
Y'all do u really do math all day?
math all day keeps the impostor syndrome at bay
I'll after exams:)
That's a good one
unfortunately not ime :(
Among us
true
nothing really helps my occasional impostor syndrome, but mine isnt about school or academics. its more about feeling unsure of myself with basic things that are supposed to be common sense (excluding when it comes to being ethical or making moral decisions). if that makes sense 
Just forget about your problems for a while. You will be surprised how useful this is
I have a huge common sense insecurity myself 
Itās not really this either hut this is a good tip
everything is common sense but somehow Iām incompetent with all of it
itās how i feel ab people getting basic things so fast and i dont

Ikr
so I feel like Iām failing all the time 
and then I also donāt get better at it easily
Fr
since uni ive struggling putting my thoughts into words
admitting to smth thats basic to others feels a bit embarrassing for me. i will well admit but like :p
Ally if this makes you feel better, I went to buy some groceries today and my friend told me to get aubergines. I went to the section and I read aubergines as automorphic forms and representations
LMAO
You really take automorphic forms and representations to the next level
I should say that thereāre many things that Iām unwilling to admit to, regardless of if itās online or in person
But yeah I understand what you feel
its not something i beat myself over hence i say its occasionally
Iām unwilling to admit to these things because Iām ashamed of them and embarrassed by them
its just like smth i feel
especially things that other people seem to get or do incredibly easily
whenever I see people talk about xyz thing that I struggle badly with like itās a natural thing, it makes me feel deeply inadequate
well i think its good to admit or ull never know
I donāt talk about this because it makes me feel bad 
but also because I think others will start to question me incredulously
Makes me feel bad too but if u dont talk ab it u wont find people who can understand ur story
yeah understandable
LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
like āwdym you canāt do that isnāt that easy???ā
THIS KADE MY DAY
and I canāt take the heat
Iām online to escape the heat from irl anyways
this is part of the reason why I consistently think people overrate me
Iāve shoved all the ugly details under the rug and made myself look presentable here
maybe a poor choice on my end, but I cannot talk about some of my shortcomings without falling into a deep abyss
so it is what it is
people on this server think too highly of me because Iāve only shown them good aspects of myself 
i know some people who have done nasty things in the past
Iām sure that image would crumble if they knew more
but if theyve learned and changed thats what matters
i get the feeling though
i still often think mistakes i made years ago
how u feels understandable
you have�
I think higher of higher!
you should start thinking lowerā¦
of me
ok done, now what
Iām unwilling to show anything else
congratulations 
And there's no need to, right?
thank youuuuu
no, and I literally canāt do it anyways
idk what I did honestly
so uhh, yeah 
You just did think lower of higher...
That's up to you (?)
uhh, your choice I suppose 
ily2
how low do you want me to go
well, the pessimistic voice in my head says that everybody should think of me as pathetic and walking garbage, but I donāt think thatās a reasonable ask
see thereās a contradiction here
so uhh, itās your choice on that end too
if you want me to think of you as pathetic and walking garbage
then thereās no reason for me to listen to what a pleb like you has to say
but then thereās no reason for me to listen to this either

i cannot think of someone who makes me and so many others happy as a walking garbage
I do!
I donāt think I want people to think of me that way though
I can unfortunately, cause Iāve met people like this
hmmmm this seems contradictoryā¦
Wait in what way
ok Iāve made up my mind
Iām not nearly as pessimistic as I used to be!
I mean people who are good to lots of others but bad to me
the voice is still in my head 
Iāve decided that youāre a pleb who has no idea what theyāre talking about with regards to themselves
and so Iāll continue to think of you highly
regardless of what you say
this is not consistent with ZFC 
hmm, I hope I havenāt treated you poorly? 
no lol
I mean like ||parents||
thanks pleb :P
C stands for my own choice 
oh that makes sense yeah
itās why I donāt really believe in good or bad people
sorry too
just good or bad actions
fair. i personally do though
is my action trivial? 
for me itās just too contradictory a concept
does the intention behind the action matter? 
for me it matters extremely little
Idk I havenāt integrated ur lagrangian
Iām not quite confident enough to say 0%
your action is faithful
I see!
but certainly a lot less than what I expect other peopleās average is
seems like it 
Huh for me the intention matters the most
interesting
Iām flattered 
u should be :P
I guess I tend to take as an axiom that people are incompetent, so their intention reveals more about them than their actions
in my case I have a lot of personal experience with āthe road to hell is paved with good intentionsā
I feel like their actions matter a lot too, particularly noting what they do when they make a mistake
Indeed it is not a reasonable ask.
Youāre an incredibly friendly human being who every rational person is delighted and lucky to interact with.
I will think colower of you
does that mean cohigher thinks lower of co-u
That takes effort and work. Being kind is a conscious choice. Thereās nothing wrong with that. Itās something to admire really. You havenāt put up some facade. We donāt know every facet of your life, you donāt know every facet of ours. The fact youāve been showing this part of yourself, it shows you care. And Iām sure it bleeds over into other aspects of your life too :). Kindness is contagious.
Nah. I must say higher! A lot of what youāve typed in this sequence is eerily familiar. On another day I may very well have written it. Youāre so kind to everyone else. Please be kind to yourself. Youāre enough.
we can only think higher!
No one is perfect. Itās ok to have flaws. I have many, as does anyone on this server. It doesnāt define you. Humans are complicated. The whole you is a wonderful human being (holistic view), Iām sure.
thank you for the kind words, armadillo 
but when will you find #1368757937954099342 
the AG mines are probably more fun to be in, all things considered 
idk whats ism
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I read an airport in Florida yes 

attempting to use tikz in latex rn
does anyone know how i can scale the sizing of an image down so it actually fits on a page
add [scale=] to the start of the tikzpicture environment
with whichever number makes it fit
i would suggest using #latex-help
i didnt know that was a channel thank you
ive posted an image there because im not entirely sure where to add the scale command
Hello there chat
there need to be a beef in between discussion 1 and 2

id say to raid discussion 1, but a 2 man team isnt quite enough š
congratulations!
Thanks!
I had extended time, thank god š would not have finished without it
(Although I did sit for about an hour doing absolutely nothing because I wasnāt allowed to move to the next section)
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cgs!
Minecraft keys r soo hard to get used to
true
This is just being wholesome
bye bye spammer

@velvet dagger
Niiiiiice
WAIT I DIDN'T SEE THE SIGN
pin
Mathcord has a guild now ?
yea
hot
what am I in this world? 
A human
Everyone is a human besides dami
am I a pillager? 
Baby villager


what is that voice trying to protect you from, and what's it afraid of?
what might happen if people think well of you?
hi cleo
hi deltoid! 
cute
what is?

wave emote
meow
wait deltoid r ur pronouns she/her
for catfishing purposes yes
I strongly suspect that it's my fear of failure, of disappointing those around me. that voice tries to get me to believe I'm worthless because then, nobody should expect anything of me and I'd never fail or disappoint
oh why catfishing
I want to catch creeps
is it like protecting you from feeling like a disappointment and or feeling unlovable bc of that?
this is what i had written 
we all fail at points in our lives
more pressure for me, more burden on myself to live up to expectations and excel 

important to give yourself grace
I often have 4 voices going through my head. Pessimistic, hopeful, incredibly motivated and just meow
Oh gentleman
what happens if you were to disappoint people around you?
I wouldn't know how anybody other than the people I've already disappointed before would react
their reactions are already enough incentive for me to do my best not to disappoint anybody else 
how i feel about coffee @dreamy ore
oh uh.. please see a doctor asap thats really concerning
it's okay now
oh, so ig they made you feel worthless for disappointing them, and that voice wants you to feel worthless, so that people can't possibly make you feel worse?
It's mainly cuz I've been doing a lot of 2-day streak non-sleep stuff
is that the protection strategy being used here? 
yeah idk at certain time I get these bad thoughts that I keep thinking about
and they dont make me sleep

that's definitely part of the story; the other part is that being peceived as worthless would make it impossible to ever disappoint again, because that's the status quo, per se
i think u should talk about those thoughts with someone you trust
im going to get melatonin tomorrow
higher i really think you underestimate just how great you are
you should really go to sleep 
how come are you kind to people you know have wronged everyone around them so many times but you dont give yourself grace
well, to be clear, my pessimistic voice isn't the only one within me
it used to dominate my thought process through and through
at least it has some company up there now
there is this new thought rn I have about my job currently
there is a part of me willing to forgive myself and be gentle with myself
I don't feel like I'm going anywhere with my research progress so I feel like I'm worthless in the job
I've been growing it with time
would you be okay if you werent a good fit for everyone? or like that part of you?
pessimism is a view
if you keep feeding yourself these thoughts youll believe its true
i think it says a lot of people find you to be kind and loving
Did you ever feel like an imposter for getting money for something you are barely doing anything with?
not everything happens in an instant
youre not worthless
if a way isnt working, find another way
I've long accepted that I am not going to be compatible with everybody, nor will I be able to be everything they want me to be 
no one on this earth will be compatible with everyone
there will always be clashing personalities
I'm aware, and I have never minded that 

It's common
and that part of you is willing to let go of people you overall want to be closer with because youre not really a good fit for each other?
I try to make weekly meeting with my prof to show progress
And it's so little
I feel bad : (
Saddening though if there's someone u really wanna be friends with but your personalities dont align
Friend crush is so fr
it is sad fr
highk 
yes, it has been
profs struggled with their research too
though, my initial message wasn't about friendships to begin with 
youre not alone deltoid
and it's okay with that?
well, if that part of you had a voice, what would it say?
and if you continue your research and come to an ending point youll be proud of how far youve come
hmm, I feel a little confused as to where this is going 
š¤·āāļø im curious
fair enough, it's just that I don't know if this was my concern to begin with 
but I'll try to answer
no i mean like
ig for these questions
Hardest part of work is clocking your hours
Cuz im too tired to do it after working
š
Ah yeah
i wanna know what's up with this. #serious-discussion message like is this what it'd say
I remember when I used to grade for discrete math, that was the main time where my hours needed to be clocked
Or wait no
Bor i got literal reminder from the university to clock my hours lMFAO
That time I had a single salary for the whole quarter
I think when I was grading for the REU
But i have until monday 11:59 pm i have timeeeeeee š«°
I had to log hours and sometimes I'd forget to do it and then be like uh oh
i used to let that kinda thing pile up sometimes and i did not like dealing with it after 
Oh i never forget im just lazy to type it even tho i msg ppl
well, the context for which I initially framed that message started up [here](#serious-discussion message) in this conversation, and bled its way down [here](#serious-discussion message) 
oh wow
I get a lot of heat irl for my lack of common sense, we might say
due tomorrow, do tomorrow 
no worries, I apologize for being unclear on this 
that original conversation was the context 
you're good i couldve read further back too 
also lowk a lot of people avoid defining terms theyre talking about and the convo changes dramatically once terms get defined
and like goals are stated and clarified
are these math people @fresh comet?
who are we referring to?
people who give you heat for common sense things
:(
if you want me to give an example, the other day I was cutting a sauce packet for noodles, and I messed up and got it all over my hands, and I got flamed for a while
some people do that. some people claim common sense for things that actually lowk arent that clear and they dont necessarily want to clarify their expectations ahead of times while expecting to hold you to them
oh 
a lot of it boils down to "it's this simple of a task, why can't you do it?"
why do you always fail at it?
sounds judgemental
I have a lot of moments like this irl where I just suck at doing basic tasks and get flamed for an hour
so that's the background to this
i usually say
i like learning
or
i like practicing
to be fair, this is a silly example that gets the point across
yepp
i like practicing dexterity
I have much more... serious(? is that the word I want...
) problems that get me a lot of fire too
how can i do that better next time?
but these are precisely the things I avoid talking about here because I'm afraid of backlash here too
I'm here to get away from the heat, not jump into the fire 
well dont be afraid of me please because i relate to you hardly
yep i wouldnt judge u higher š¤·āāļø
so like, I do agree with this, but it's apparently common sense for everybody around me but me
Yeah I will say, these sorts of reactions strike me not as natural reactions to the types of situations you're encountering
But rather people getting unreasonably pressed over things that shouldn't be at all bothersome
and some math is common sense to you that is unparsably complex to a layperson
i like complementary strengths
I relate to you a lot
i hope they see ur value
This is real wtf
there're some people in my life who ask me why I'm only good at math, and nothing else 
or why I'm not better at more things
that's so rude
same lmfao
that always makes me feel really bad
are these friends? family members?
it's also a cognitive distortion
"only" - black and white
i'm good at math. ty
mostly family, but I'm hesitant to paint them in a bad light, because they're also very kind to me in other ways
I get fire from them, but they also do a lot for me
Idk if you relate higher but I get flamed a lot for doing mathematics instead of something else like law
yeah and.. often overlook that intelligence comes in many different forms š¤¦āāļø
oops
meant to reply to cleo
In high school my uncle said "Don't do something like math or science, you're not creative. You're a good talker, you should do law"
i appreciate youre good at x.
plus i like improving at things im not as good as i want to be at yet, and idm learning from anyone with that skill, even if it's a simple skill or a random person that has it
family members can still be wrong
but im happy you dont like to paint your family in a bad light given how much they do for you
says a lot about them than you
I really appreciate them in some ways, but they're also on my back a lot because there's a lot of pressure on me to not just succeed, but excel in life
no one should be dictating what you do for the rest of your life
that's controlling
and this is one of the strongest forms of pressure they apply
My relatives are like 80% medical doctors so it sucks that they except anyone to naturally do it
I'm just incompetent at everything and need to get grow up and improve and get better
that's the message I get from them
My family is supportive and I'm glad for this but my relatives are just really toxic
just because someone is unhappy with your growth doesnt mean youre doing anything wrong
and you know it's super distorted 
you struggle at some things. you can improve at them. it could be worthwhile for you.
is an undistorted version
there will always be a person better than you at something
it doesn't matter
there's always someone better
I do! but it's been years upon years of the same messaging, and coupled with my previous history of being extremely self critical, it's become a large burden on my mind at all times
mhm it matters if youre good enough at what matters when it matters to me lowk
I've been taking small steps to improve when I can 
I think youāre doing fine
I'm being deliberately vague so as to sidestep what the actual things are, but I definitely feel like I've made decent progress at this one thing so far this summer
i feel like they want you to be more graceful 
and I'm actually quite pleased with myself about it
based on the noodles lol
Therapy time lol
im so proud of you!
yayyy
^^
Honestly higher this is a style of "encouragement" that I see a lot in Morocco
hi vero 
my clumsiness is probably the least problematic thing about me irl 
Yeah I agree with others higher
but I do need to work on that too
Don't you like cook? I can't even cook lmfao
Oh god if u think ur clumsy u should see me
Criticize someone even if they're largely doing well in the hope that they're motivated to beat the criticism
And then get better and better
don't negative reinforcement styles tend to discourage people from trying over time?
a few days ago my shoes got soaking wet bc i missed a couple of steps on the stairs outside (it was raining hard)
in my experience if something doesn't challenge my ego and expectations of what i can do, I wont learn anything from it
I don't know if it's been motivating me more than demoralizing me 
Thankfully i didnt trip and hurt my knee or anything but i still fell
Yeah, I don't agree with it. But it is common
why is cooking relevant to what I'm talking about
yepp common and unhealthy lowk š
I fell from walking up the stairs a couple months ago and seriously bruised my knee and two pinky fingers 
im so sorry about that
they still hurt a little bit, but are mostly okay now
My point was you do a lot of stuff I can't or even the average person do
But yeah higher my point is, this kinda unyielding criticism is more a function of the people doing the criticizing than it is of you
it's nothing to apologize over 
i get that. i encourage my inner critic to be my inner cheerleader lol
People who can season are š„ Unlike dami
I'm just not super aware of my surroundings
Self-criticism:
I'm the kind of person who walks into tree branches, hits my hip on table corners, and trips on stairs
REAL
ur not alone girl
thats a lot of us me too š
Ally when you learn what cumin or garlic powder is then we can open that convo
Oh it's partly cuz I'm expected to do stuff like fixing broken house stuff, cooking, fixing printers (for some reason) etc cuz i'm the oldest
fixing the printer is common sense
I should try to nurture the critic within to become a cheerleader too
these shoes r my main ones and they make me so prone to tripping fr
And yeah I walk into things sometimes too. Usually my strat is to blame the thing that I walked into
LMFAO
Harsh
Stupid table walked into me
fr
Ok but wait
"Stupid fckn table fuck u t('-'t)"
ppl like sabrina carpenter can fall so gracefully
i fall like a dead goat
i think my friend has a vid of me slipping on ice
I can ask
yepp it helps me a lot. esp knowing that inner encouragement helps you keep trying and getting feedback, when inner criticism discourages trying, while grit, which is effort over time, yields success reliably so is worth protecting, and trying and learning from the feedback helps get you there faster than not, so inner encouragement helps much more than inner criticism
Before she got into singing she was a bit of a craftsperson right? I think there's a degree of training involved in that to make sure that you fall deliberately and don't land on tools which can seriously harm you
and like constructive criticism can be gentle
yea
why didnt that go right, and how can i learn from it?
@timid bronze HAVE U SEEN CLIPS OF HER FALLING
.
i meant to ping cleo
what?? no 
At least if her last name is any indication...
I knew you'd get me walter
this has been a growing part of my reflections after making a mistake lately
btw higher
Real
why do you feel like AI sometimes
lmao you are so right!! 
at the very least, it's helped me cope, but it does also help me get back on track
Walter
so I think I need to do it more
š
what do you mean? 
Hi sharp and deltoid 


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