serious-discussion

[north topaz]

Wish we could turn back time
To the good old days
When our mama sang us to sleep
But now we're stressed out (oh)
Wish we could turn back time (oh)
To the good old days (oh)
When our mama sang us to sleep
But now we're stressed out
We're stressed out

also, you realise that you're living in what many adults consider the "good old days" right

where you can goof around without a care in the world

[upbeat heart]

Remember to always touch the belly

[pure obsidian]

bro ive touched its belly and it doesnt care anymore 😭

[upbeat heart]

Are you a god of cat???

My cat won't even let a single touch in its belly

That cat is high

[pure obsidian]

idk i dont think so bc i havent seen any cats in my neighborhood

i see squirrels tho

they usually pause and look at me

before they run away when i walk closer

its funny

[upbeat heart]

I wonder if we can get a squirrel to be a pet tho

[upbeat heart]

Its funny and cute at the same time

Just like stray cats

[pure obsidian]

id love one

but yeah idk how you would maintain it

[pure obsidian]

aww yay im glad im not the only one who thinks so

[pure obsidian]

poor stray cats

tbh i think im getting offtopic tho

it's hard for me to think in the morning

[upbeat heart]

Bro it's 9pm here

Gtg sleep, cya buds

[pure obsidian]

cya later aligator

[serene wraith]

is there somone who understand frensh

[hardy iron]

!da2a

[quasi jetty]

No need to ask “Can I ask…?” or “Does anyone know about…?”—it’s faster for everyone if you just ask your question! See https://dontasktoask.com/

[serene wraith]

what

[upper hound]

Oii drop out of school

Now

https://youtube.com/shorts/QwbSDdTozug?si=grpf8KOG-a_4TIy1

Ignore the top titles

[limber thunder]

the top text makes it funnier lol

[old oak]

As a teacher I definitely agree that people who think that shouldn't go to school, so that I don't have to deal with them

[limber thunder]

the dropout discourse is funny because the reason you see these success stories isn't because they dropped out but because they were disciplined, motivated and maybe had a stroke of luck regardless of schooling

[vocal vessel]

*cough* generational wealth *cough*

[limber thunder]

so while I agree that you shouldn't limit yourself to school or a traditional career path, I think way too many people use it as cope for doing bad due to a lack of attention and discipline

[limber thunder]

yeah I'm counting that within stroke of luck

[vocal vessel]

That's what they want you to do

[old oak]

Just my hard work, discipline, and a $400k loan from my parents

[vocal vessel]

You too can be a billionaire as long as your daddy has an emerald mine.

[upper hound]

Most of the billionaires are self made

Cry lad

[upper hound]

No it’s a bit true

[vocal vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/thatsfunnytellanotherone-rupaul-gif-22817787

[upper hound]

Because school makes u go do work

Not get rich

[old oak]

I mean, I agree that you don't get really rich by doing work, the key is to exploit the work of others.

Let the suckers work while you profit from that, that's always been the way

[upper hound]

Well who’s the suckers?

The people who went to school

[vocal vessel]

Mostly the uneducated

[upper hound]

No u work for a business

[vocal vessel]

Why are you holding a severed donkey wang?

[upper hound]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-gif-23466964

[old oak]

frequently asked mathcord questions

[vocal vessel]

Goodness. I hope not 😱

[paper helm]

Anyone with access to sciencedirect through their university can help me accessing 2 papers? My uni does not grant access to its students 😦

These are 2024 papers and I don't think I can find it elsewhere

[ember lance]

General advice is to email the authors of the papers to see if they can give you a copy.

[paper helm]

I did, and no response. I tried this method a couple times before and got no response

[barren anchor]

that seems wild bro

[barren anchor]

just find a friend in a position where they can access it.

[solid snow]

Actually the opposite lol

Maybe if you count actually getting the first billion as being “self made”

But most come from wealthy families

[south arch]

whats the paper? ill check if i have access

[barren anchor]

it is not general advice to email the authors just fyi

it's more like particularly bad advice

I envy the brain that thought it though just so creative and pure

[south arch]

not if ur desperate and ask nicely

the worst they do is ignore you

[barren anchor]

no I'm saying it's literally just not general advice

like you can go survey 50 people who regularly access academic literature and 49 of them will not say email the author

[south arch]

oh lmao

[barren anchor]

not saying it's impossible or anything

[south arch]

yeah most people who read research have access to said research

thats kinda wack that a uni doesnt have that

especially something like sciencedirect

[solid snow]

why is emailing authors bad?

[barren anchor]

man I'm not saying it's bad either

I'm saying it's weird advice

[solid snow]

?

[south arch]

disproved with FACTS and LOGIC

[solid snow]

oh i see what you mean

bad advice as in unlikely to result in anything

[barren anchor]

like if it takes you 5 minutes to text friend/ family get them to print you something they access through their institution

vs emailing some postdoc somewhere who might get back to you at some point

seems like why would you take route 2?

yea

it's just not optimally effective imo

[south arch]

thats assuming you have friends or family with access

[barren anchor]

that it is. But who doesn't?

[south arch]

me 😔

im jk but id say its also rare to have family with access bc that means they are in academia

[barren anchor]

is that rare?

[south arch]

i mean, yes

[barren anchor]

particularly when you are in academia

granted it is a requirement

so I hear you, other options may be necessitated even with their suboptimality

[south arch]

its easy to feel that way bc you surround yourself with people in academia through your interests, field, and education

but id say the average person would have trouble finding someone they know with a phd or even a grad student

or even a stem major for that matter

[barren anchor]

bro most undergrads at decent universities get a shitload of access

doesn't matter what major they have, most universities don't gate their access by your major. You are a student of any kind, you get access.

much like an art student might go to the library and borrow* an engineering book

[south arch]

its also not unheard of that you only have friends at your university - but i digress its not a big deal lol

[ember lance]

OK

[barren anchor]

yeah I mean relatively bad

there's nothing outright bad about trying any approach if any approach will do

but it a particularly ineffective way to go about it

[barren anchor]

good catch fr

it is dumb bad advice

but it's not like impossible

I'm pretty loose with my language these days pray for me

[ember lance]

I mean it is implied that since they don't have access to the service, that people surrounding them won't have access to it either. So one has multiple options here, one can ask random internet strangers ( which might or might not work since accessing some papers comes with a tag that could get you banned if the media gets redistributed, so strangers might be more hesitant to do it ) or you can email the author which would benefit from their results being cited, and could establish a future contact point.

and sometimes they even send you more relevant literature and could send a corrected version.

So no, I don't think it is dumb bad advice

[golden swallow]

I have a meeting tomorrow with my professor regarding a seminar talk that i have to do on friday. Problem is, i have no clue whats going on, i dont really understand the material and i have not prepared particularly much. Im basically tasked to write some sagemath stuff. I had another seminar talk last friday, on which i focused on, so i only started working on this talk a few days ago. Should I just not go to the seminar, take an F and call it a day, which is of course kind of shitty (however I can just do a different seminar next semester, so the F doesnt really matter), or should I meet him tomorrow and have a humiliating experience

To be honest i could have started earlier, but i was lazy over the christmas holidays. Also this seminar is aimed at people that attend the professors lecture, i dont attend it though, i just signed up for the seminar for fun, which now seems like a kinda bad idea

[ember lance]

Meet the professor and see how it goes from there.

[golden swallow]

Im so doomed

[ember lance]

Maybe maybe not, one way to find out.

[south arch]

talk to the professor, explain your sitatuation, and humbly ask to meet with them to go over whatever you dont understand

then, work ur ass off to understand whatever it is you need to and come prepared to that meeting with questions

oh i just read you dont attend his lectures - yeah you might be cooked

[ember lance]

I think they are probably cooked, but maybe the professor can give options on how to proceed. And I also think ghosting the seminar is probably worse.

[golden swallow]

I want to cry

[true zinc]

Then cry, get back up on your feet, and go talk to your professor

if they "humiliate" you or dress you down or are harsh because of your poor performance and not even attending class, LISTEN, and actually go to class next term

[solid snow]

uhhh

[south arch]

honestly, no matter what you're already facing the consequences of your actions

no matter what you do, make sure you take this lesson to heart and dont repeat something like this again

idk why you signed up for a seminar course only to not show up at all

[golden swallow]

master is tough bro

[true zinc]

It doesn't matter, go do the right thing

[golden swallow]

in bachelor i got away with doing everything last second

[true zinc]

Admit your faults

[true zinc]

I doubt that would fly in grad school, however I am not a graduate student, so I withhold comment

[golden swallow]

maybe i should quit

im not passionate

[south arch]

its good to get humbled every once in a while, it shows where you need to improve. You just need to let the lesson sink and and take it in stride

but from everything you're saying sounds like you have other stuff going on that could be affecting ur academics

[golden swallow]

i dont

im just straight up lazy

[true zinc]

Then why are you letting yourself slack

[south arch]

Then change

take this opportunity and try your hardest to change

[true zinc]

Either do better or you're going to get washed out

[south arch]

think about it like this: you could give up now and promise yourself that you will be different in the future, but generally, people are creatures of habit and stick to what they normally do, and giving up now would be adhering to your old habits

if you dont give up and try your best to admit your fault and work at it, you're one step closer to changing your lazy habits

i will note that if i was a professor in that situation theres really not much you can do tho, just dont let this happen again

[ember lance]

As silver mentioned previously, before going to the meeting, somehow try to learn the broad aspects of the topic you need to present, and during the meeting maybe you can manage to fill in some holes in your presentation with whatever your professor says.

I think today is tuesday for you probably, so you have 3 days to get ready. I think you could make a shoddy presentation work in that time.

[restive parrot]

i screwed up the big exam of my first semester

in bachelor

am i screwed if i want to get into a top school for master ?

[sharp mulch]

No

[restive parrot]

fr ? I can see it tanking my whole GPA as it's worth about 25% of the yearly grade

[remote jackal]

math

math

math

math

math

[true zinc]

stop spamming

[restive parrot]

Yooo
Does 0.5 approximate 0.497468 by 1 decimal place or 0 ?
like the question is "how many correct decimal places does the approximation give "

[sharp mulch]

Don't ask your question in multiple channels

[tepid venture]

What are these custom emojis bro 💀

[remote jackal]

uh

???

[cinder glacier]

It gives 0 correct decimal places

[remote jackal]

does sigma equal a number like pi

[terse fiber]

if there is sigma, when here is beta? and alpha?

[remote jackal]

https://tenor.com/view/think-meme-thinking-memes-memes-2024-gif-6703217797690493255

and gamma and delta and epilon

[upbeat heart]

Im alpha

And the omega

[narrow talon]

so if my teacher asks for it on the test I can just answer with カザミ?

[serene wraith]

Integral dépend d'un paramètre ?

[upbeat heart]

That's one of the sigma move

[brazen sigil]

I think ur supposed to ask them in English not french

[serene wraith]

No same same

[brazen sigil]

If u need help w a question u should probably go to one of the help channel not a discussion one

Since u have asked here if an integral depends on a parameter or smth like that

[inner crag]

[sinful rune]

any girl here

[south thicket]

does anyone know how the euler's identity is derived and its geometric interpretation

[old oak]

Yes, posting this in a non-math channel is definitely more appropriate. This isn't a response to Water_7 but to a now-deleted message from a crank

[north topaz]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqt67tJCiwQ

so cos x + i sin x can be thought of as the point (cos x, sin x), which traces out the unit circle

[ionic star]

it's like half going by the feels

[stable kernel]

Question 15:

Dear Anna,

a. I’m grateful for the advice you gave me about the project; it was really helpful.
b. I’ll keep you updated on my progress and let you know how things go.
c. I’ve made significant improvements thanks to your suggestions.
d. Let’s catch up over coffee sometime next week if you’re free.
e. Thanks again for always being supportive.

Best regards,
Pls help me arrange this

[upbeat heart]

[deep siren]

Dear Anna,

Believe it or not, I just want to let you know that my egg recently cracked as I use fae/faer pronouns and I am sapphic. Thank you for your mere attention.

Best Regards,
Diao Ye Zong

[cinder glacier]

Hey guys if I say that a vector touches a plane on a point A. is it evident that the origin of said vector is (0;0;0)?

[old oak]

Dear Anna,

Thanks a lot for the advice you gave me about the project; it was really helpful. I will not write more, because I am not a creep.

Best regards,
me

[cinder glacier]

I personally disagree with this but people told me that by universal convention it's the case

[solid snow]

every vector in R^3 emanates from the origin technically

[old oak]

You could also say that technically vectors in R^3 don't emanate from anything because they're triples of real numbers, which we just interpret/conceptualize as vector arrows

(which are typically indeed conceptualized as originating at (0,0,0) )

[cinder glacier]

So in the case of 3 vectors that touch a plane

It would instantly mean that the differnece lies on the plane

You see I had trouble with this cause if I don't have the same origin I disagree that it's true

And didn't understand why they had to be starting from the same origin

It bothers me that the norm and direction of the vector can be then defined by a singular point

[cinder glacier]

I see no problem with this since, the vector is nor defines by its position in space but simply a direction and norm

[solid snow]

hence it makes no difference to decide that it emanates from the origin for convenience

[cinder glacier]

Fot me it does since if you're deciding that the vector emanates from the origin then its norm is decided by the point u defined in this case A

And I don't see why this should be the case since it feels like a convention, and since it's a convention it should be stipulated at the beginning

Like u need to say that, it's not for me to assume

[velvet needle]

I HATE MATHS

I BETTER NOT LEARN IT

[old oak]

I agree

[icy locust]

Can anyone imagine...liking math? ew

[north topaz]

a, c, b, d, e

[cinder glacier]

You agree with rango or my sentence made sense

I m trying to be sure 100% cause I'm sending an email to the person that interviewed me.
The question was about the angle between 2 planes, with every plane having 3 vectors that have a vertex on the plane

So it's finding 2 orthogonal vectors on the planes doing the vectorial product to find the normal to the plane and then dor product between each normal.

I'm just confused on the very first part which is why i asked u guys that question

[velvet needle]

Sup

[neat lintel]

hi

[limber silo]

Let there be a complex number Z1 whose real part be a element of set S1={X: X=2n ; n is greater than or equal to 1} such that HCF(X,12) is 4 [ note re(Z1) is smallest of all possible values] and imaginary part of Z1 be the half of real part of Z1 and there be a another complex number Z2 and real part of Z2 be the are formed by points K=0 L=4 M=7i ( 'i' is iota =√-1)
In argand plane and imaginary part of Z2 be the length formed by point Q(0,0) and R(0,7) and there be a arithmetic progression whose second term is Re(Z1) and seventh term be Re(Z2) and mean of first term and and Re(Z1) be the smallest element in set
S2={Y : Y=3n ; n is greater than or equal to 1} then find the mean of third term and twenty third term of above mentioned AP

[velvet needle]

Brotha what's going on

The Sum of X and Y = the right answer of XY

LET THERE BE LIFE

[true zinc]

<@&268886789983436800> Possibly malicious link(?)

[bright condor]

Doesn't seem malicious but please don't post unsanctioned survey links in the server

Please remove it (so I don't have to)

[fresh comet]

what does this mean?

[true zinc]

it's a "queer people are snowflakes" esque statement

[fresh comet]

I figured

[delicate tendon]

im lost, what was the link

[solid snow]

clearly not since they just asked for an explanation

[delicate tendon]

about?

[solid snow]

but please do elaborate

[delicate tendon]

Oh, did you like shorten the url?

Dang that sucks, but that was still an out of pocket comment tbf

[old oak]

I don't get it, could you explain after all?

[delicate tendon]

Like if it was just a google forms link and no one mentioned lgbt, other than i guess you looking at their profile (id assume), and made that conclusion

[old oak]

Which people?

[delicate tendon]

Which people lmfaooo

Like youre the one clicking their profile and saying "mind their business"

And as I see it, no one had mentioned lgbt other than you

its just weird as hell

[old oak]

And you responded to that by choosing to refer to Ryan as "the LGBTQ member"

[delicate tendon]

it doesnt really matter, its just called being respectful regardless of your stance

[velvet dagger]

I think we heard all we needed to hear from cc lol

[delicate tendon]

frfr

[fresh comet]

I mean, it is a server rule that unsolicited advertisements aren’t allowed on this server, and that was certainly unsolicited, even if harmless

[delicate tendon]

Thank you

[fresh comet]

oh, they’re gone now

[delicate tendon]

praise be to you!!!

[velvet dagger]

Woohoo

[delicate tendon]

a fr carbon copy lmaoo

(email reference)

im not funny 🥹

[velvet dagger]

[hushed prairie]

#book-recommendations

[timber hedge]

can horses learn elementary number theory

i would like my steed to attend lectures

[static loom]

neigh

[timber hedge]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

[upbeat heart]

What??

[rugged matrix]

Hello

Has anyone learned of homeopathy

Its great medicine

[fresh comet]

[orchid ether]

Why this chat dead but the first one is ..

[feral dragon]

Cheesecake factory gives me 90s vibes

[dense belfry]

neigh

[limber silo]

Anyone heard PhysicsWallah

[untold sapphire]

karl marx talked about this

[raven plaza]

A homeopath is an interval [0, 1] with [0, 1] × X such that the from a path γ → X to (between) an other path γ' → X and ∃t∈R, we have Ht: [0, 1] → X, this is because X is weakly contractible

[old oak]

I used to be friends with a homeopath but he took his own life by taking an underdose 😭

[raven plaza]

Did you unfriend him after that

[old oak]

I mean, he was dead

[ember lance]

dehydration is very dangerous yes

[thorn wren]

someones bad at seances

[hexed pier]

What’s the opposite of a set? I saw a video about that and it was just deranged then I looked it up and none of it made any sense

I can’t imagine what that even means? Can someone give me a loose explanation

[vivid halo]

lol what

[main elbow]

what was the video about, did they give this "opposite of a set" a name?

[woeful trout]

Well, when talking about opposites you sort of have to choose your pivot, but if a set is a collection of things then, to start with, a collection of non-things is still a collection, but a non-collection of things feels impossible... and of course a non-collection of non-things is just the trivial solution

[hexed pier]

https://youtu.be/SrltwGJAiCM?si=PL4eAyDjDWy6S6M-

I can’t tell if it has a name

[main elbow]

oh yeah ive see nthis

[hexed pier]

Maybe if it’s a group of relations instead of a group of elements but I’m not sure that makes sense on its own?

[ionic star]

it's like the opposite of −7 is 7

but here it's not one opposite but several

it's just words, there's not enough words for everything

in maths people like it that way, use words metaphorically

[deep siren]

<@&268886789983436800>

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Random: I feel admired with the Hatsune Miku thumbs up emoji, so I can start my day happily

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[limber thunder]

[upbeat heart]

Man of culture

[gray glade]

https://youtu.be/kmlF2rw1weo?si=Y5k9xRxF5cG2Xdvy

[olive flax]

anyone here good at logic and philo

[true zinc]

!da2a

[quasi jetty]

No need to ask “Can I ask…?” or “Does anyone know about…?”—it’s faster for everyone if you just ask your question! See https://dontasktoask.com/

[olive flax]

I need to put a photo but its a logic question how can I Prove ~A => ~~~A im just fried out of my mind due to just noit understanding

[hollow ginkgo]

What about “Is this the right channel to discuss…?”?

[limber thunder]

that's fine

[eager minnow]

truth table seems the easiest

[limber thunder]

yep

[limber thunder]

this is a https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Double_negation

[digital breach]

[brisk jacinth]

Double negation

Any even number of negations is equal to 0 negations, any odd number of negations is equal to 1 negation

~A = ~~~A

And also
~A=~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~A

1= Odd
0= Even

Easy negation rules

[true zinc]

you need a \ here to prevent discord from thinking the ~'s are markdown

[true wedge]

or $\lnot$

[fathom swallow]

qiuzlm

[eager minnow]

i think the point is to prove that double negation does in fact behave that way

cant assume it

[wanton bough]

Bbl frizzy

Oups

Bbl frizyyyy

Grizzy

Rizzy?

(Ik it’s drizzy)

Oh wrong discussion, was wondering why it was so quiet

[upbeat heart]

Is there any ways to know if a number is a prime number?

Like how to know if 36739 is a prime number?

[true wedge]

sieve of eratosthenes

have fun!!!

[brisk jacinth]

Double negation, among other rules in sentential logic, is simply an assumption you need to make to do proofs

It is possible that his instructor wants him to like explain it though

It’s like PEMDAS, you have to assume PEMDAS to do math but I doubt you’ll be expected to know why

[eager minnow]

so wouldnt that make the exercise useless

[drowsy flume]

I think there are fancy ways to check certain numbers

but mostly it comes down to "check if it has factors"

is it 2^n - 1 that is special

[main elbow]

y = mx + b
lets start with some simple cases if m and b are rational then there will be rational solutions
if m is rational but b is irrational then there will be no rational solutions because y - mx will be rational when x and y are rational but this is meant to = b which irrational
if m is irrational but b is rational then also we will get no solutions because y - b will be rational but mx will be irrational
so the questions boils down to if y = mx + b has rational solutions when m and b are irrational
@drifting lark

we have already found examples where it is possible like y = pi x + pi has a rational solution of (-1, 0)
but must there always be a rational solution

something tells me that is not a simple question

when b/m is rational, i.e. b = m r for some rational r we can write y = m(x + r) and we will find a rational point (-r, 0) this is the trick we just used in the case m = pi

[drifting lark]

My intuition says we could use Cantor's diagonalization method to prove that, for a given m, there must be some b such that the equation has no rational solutions.

(corrected some bad wording)

[main elbow]

i think maybe there is some argument to found by considering the quotient R / Q but i dont remember jack shit about jack shit and its too late to try and figure anything out now

but i wish you good luck in playing around with this

[rugged matrix]

Do cats know things?

[true zinc]

stare

yes we do

[green sable]

prove it

[last ruin]

If you dissect a cat, it has 9 batteries and 1 terrabyte SSD

[lost spruce]

naur

[lost spruce]

really? what's the nuclear launch codes?

exactly point proven

[deep furnace]

um,,,.. 1….. 2….., 3…….

[lost spruce]

waow... you knew....

[deep furnace]

yippee!!!!! what’s the prize

[lost spruce]

federal prison! !!!!

[desert token]

So I read more of How To Solve It By George Polya

im honestly still confused by the math he used in his examples

but I think that's what made me fully understand the method to solving math since the confusion of the math let me focus on his methods of understanding

[lethal fern]

a) Find which of the following points lie in x ^ 2 + y ^ 2 + 2x + 4y - 8 = 0

i) (1, 1)

ii) (-1, 2)

iii) (3, 1)

[static loom]

please read #❓how-to-get-help to make a question channel

[lethal fern]

Okay

[hollow ginkgo]

Ask a computer

[eternal crow]

it doesn't look like it's divisible by 3 and 2 and 5 so let's start with 7

neither 7

neither 11

[hardy iron]

There are many prime-checking algorithms

36739 is prime if my calculations are correct

[eternal crow]

it is prime

191 is prime

[tranquil steppe]

Hi everyone
If any of you are free i would request you all to plz fill out this form for my personal project (it is math related).
https://forms.gle/HkmXdSoJHvkFCtRJ6
Thank you!

if its not allowed to send it here pls lmk i'll remove

[desert token]

I have a counter question

How would you solve it step by step?

[upbeat heart]

Yeah just realized its gonna take some complicated steps, I though it's just like determining odd/even number

[thorn wren]

Determining if a number is prime is like famously highly non trivial for large numbers

[leaden torrent]

i mean

its trivial, just computationally intensive

[old oak]

From the school of thought that brought us "I don't know why people are so obsessed with prime number generators, we already have the Willans formula"

[near burrow]

Question : what does ℅ symbol mean, and is it related to % symbol?

[eternal crow]

,w ℅

[fathom swallow]

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[eternal crow]

yeah i was gonna say care of

idk if it has any math meaning

[old oak]

cerpent

[vernal token]

Do we actually want large prime numbers for something, or just for the sake of it?

[old oak]

I believe a number of encryption/decryption algorithms require large primes

[vernal token]

I guess you could say prime number generators could tell us something about the nature of primes and that could help with proving some big results

[vernal token]

Ah

[old oak]

The fundamental idea being that if you've got a number that's a product of two very large primes, you can't easily determine what they are (because factoring huge numbers is computationally difficult)

But if you know one of the primes, you can easily find out the other by simple division

[vernal token]

Can we hide some message in those?

[old oak]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RSA_(cryptosystem)

[old oak]

I mean, not directly, and I'm not big on cryptography in general, but you can study the RSA algorithm

[unborn meteor]

RSA mentioned?!

[north topaz]

@neat lintel #❓how-to-get-help

[old oak]

Yeah, and I think I was wrong about the fundametal idea (it's not about recovering the other prime if you know one of them, just that you can't find out the primes if you just know the product, but you can obviously easily get the product from the two primes)

[brazen mulch]

practical impossibility™

[unborn meteor]

it's about finding d such that de mod n = 1 where n = pq

if you know d then you can decrypt it

you give e and n to everyone else

to encrypt where m is the message calculate m^e mod n and for decryption do m^d mod n

[glass peak]

It’s actually quite fun and straightforward to work through the algorithm, it was like an introductory task to learn sagemath in my LA/ring theory class

[lethal fern]

sqrt((1 - cos A)/(1 + cos A)) = cos ecA - cot A

[lethal fern]

??

[glossy owl]

i'm dead

i just finished half of some maths olympics

it's 3 problems then and 3 later

and one was impossible

given q(x) has exponent 2023 and q(n)=1/n when n belongs to {1, 2, 3, ..., 2022, 2023, 2024}, calculate q(2025)

i hate whoever came up with that bs 🔥🔥🔥

[fervent lantern]

wait i think i have a friend matematcian who can solv that

but in french 😅

[neat lintel]

i suppose by "q(x) has exponent 2023" you mean q(x) is a polynomial in real coefficients with degree 2023; then nq(n)-1 is a polynomial of degree 2024, and you know its 2024 roots, so you may write xq(x)-1 = A(x-1)(x-2)...(x-2024), put x=0 to find A, then put x=2025 to find the answer

[pale saddle]

The math you learn in high school. People, student, math teachers think it’s math. But it is not. It is a boring curriculum, a punishment for students who must learn very menial, repetitive tasks, solving time and over the same kind of routine problems. No mathematician ever computes an integral anymore, not even a difficult one: they use tools like WolframAlpha. Plus, while math is mostly a creative discipline, school math is the perfect opposite of creativity. Sadly, people think they had to learn and learn to hate math at school, but actually it was no math that they learned: it is more more akin to memorizing a phone book. No surprise math has a bad reputation, but actually, that bad reputation is not against math, but against what people wrongly believe is math. And of course, that bad reputation is well deserved when viewed under this perspective.

would you say this is true?

not mine

basically, do you actually compute stuff anymore or are you logically thinking about stuff in math

or what do you gets do in really high levels of math?

like math major type

[sharp mulch]

I compute lots of things

[fresh oriole]

this is a common feeling among people who one way or another managed to get really good at math. Most of those people haven't experienced really struggling to work out something like 4/5 - 2/3, or solving 3(2x + 4) = x, but I can tell you a LOT of people REALLY struggle with these things. How would these people do in a curriculum designed to teach creative research math? They wouldn't stand a chance. The curriculum is designed to get most people to a basic level of competency and it's pretty miserable at doing that. Improving this situation is a very difficult problem

[main elbow]

id say this is like 30% correct
there is definitely an aspect in which high school level math is boring and repetitive and that comes down to curriculum and the teachers (not their fault though, they dont get paid enough etc)
but thats not to say that creativity cannot be found in this level of maths, nor is it true that no one is doing computations

[pale saddle]

I see

Thank you guys for your answers

[fresh oriole]

I personally think we should have more divided school paths, where most people should go down paths with much, much less math required for them. Making everybody learn how to factor and solve specially chosen cubics is patently absurd to me.

Make basic arithmetic required, and a little bit of algebra and geometry - and I really mean a little. That's enough for most people. People who realize early on they like math should have the option for a path that gets into the creative research stuff quickly

[solid snow]

i disagree

most students pre uni are not in positions to determine what they think they should study or whatever

much less decide on a career path

i dont disagree with the notion that how math ends up being delivered tends to be quite drab in highschool

[lusty widget]

Hi

[lethal fern]

cosec A-cotA =rootunder(1-cosA/1+cosA)

[surreal sapphire]

imo people should learn more math, just different things

learning stuff like calculus is really an artifact of an antiquated education system

today learning things like linear algebra and especially statistics is much more important so you can interpret the world around you

[ember lance]

i would add a basic logic class too

[trim solar]

can someone help me out pls

[pale saddle]

wait so calculus is useless 😟😟😟😟😟😟😟

“all my life…”

“it’s been a lie this whole time.”

[pale saddle]

yeah I agree

Also linear algebra is just easier

Kinda

[surreal sapphire]

i mean you need some understanding of it to understand statistics

[pale saddle]

Not really

[surreal sapphire]

its just that grinding computing derivatives is worthless lol

[pale saddle]

Fair

Seems like an easy test question

🤔

[surreal sapphire]

thats an artifact of when people realized we need more engineers and computers didnt exist

its also just easier on the teacher to only teach computational skills as opposed to ideas

[pale saddle]

My calculus class actually didn’t get into the more

uhh

he didn’t even mention the fundamental theorem of calculus if I remember

Covered definite integrals tho

Anyways

My teacher gives out answers for tests sometimes

Like for the most confusing question usually

Like a double derivative implicit differentiation

He just gives out the second derivative

[trim solar]

yo can u help me

[pale saddle]

yea

[trim solar]

your in calculus right?

[pale saddle]

yes ab but I can do a bit of bc

[trim solar]

nah dw i have a prob w precalc

[pale saddle]

oh ok

[trim solar]

i mean u dont have to but uh

[pale saddle]

no worries I got time

[trim solar]

do u see help 4?

[pale saddle]

check the channel

[plain island]

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[surreal sapphire]

is this shapez

[neat lintel]

the worst thing just happened to me bruh

i was playing happy wheels spike fall and died on JB 😢

[hushed talon]

You building a cpu?

[uneven tide]

What is it?

[plain island]

yes

[last ruin]

Skibidi aura harvester

Init

[serene wraith]

Guys check my chat

Pls

[quasi jetty]

Please do not advertise your help channel or thread in other parts of the server. There are many people who need help, so advertising can quickly turn into spam.

[rich magnet]

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[sharp mulch]

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[true zinc]

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[peak tide]

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[old oak]

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[unborn meteor]

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[pure obsidian]

it's meeee

[limber thunder]

discussy-2 moment

[fresh comet]

we should critter chain instead

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whatever this is

[peak tide]

1st isomorphism theorem

[true zinc]

first isomorphism theorem

[true zinc]

in 🦆 tion

[golden tapir]

Hi

[oblique steppe]

is this server classed as nedry

nerdy?

[hollow ginkgo]

Yes

[mental stratus]

and needy

[icy locust]

nitty

[neat lintel]

I mean I guess we all need to understand the maths 🙂 I know I do

[neat lintel]

stem international maths exam help

I am in class 12th

[true zinc]

There's no such thing as nerdy

[forest axle]

yes there is and this server most definitely is it

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,w nerdy

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[eternal crow]

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I'm not nerdy then

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[pliant breach]

hello there

[wooden falcon]

This is only as powerful as you’d like if the cat is cartesian closed. In a cartesian cat this can only apply a function n times. It can’t do primitive recursion.

To do that we need to define a so called parametrized natural numbers object instead.

[placid wolf]

can someone help me here please: https://discord.com/channels/268882317391429632/1330610763609673809

[gusty sapphire]

is mathematica worth it for cs grad

[glass peak]

Worth it for what

Just generally learning it? Probably not if you don’t have an exact use case in mind

[gusty sapphire]

like solving differntial equations and calculus stuff,linear algebra . to get solutions.. thats it for now

or will wolfram alpha be better

[sick parrot]

Deadass I just got that shi

[gusty sapphire]

so did we have to just learn wolfram language to use it

or something else too?

[sick parrot]

To be honest i dont know nothing bout it

[hollow gate]

I have made a theory called the reverse math theory

[old oak]

Excellent!

[hollow gate]

Y is 42 the answer to life

[old oak]

It is, but I'm afraid Douglas Adams has beaten you to this conclusion

I mean, either him or the white mice whose work he documented

[hollow gate]

But why

[old oak]

I mean, he's dead, so we can't ask him why he wrote it

[hollow gate]

Well he is wrong

[old oak]

That is entirely possible, of course

[hollow gate]

You know what I identify as 42

I am the answer to life

[old oak]

Oh look, an "I identify as <blank>" remark in 2025

How quaint

[hollow gate]

I'm jk

[old oak]

I thought the point of jokes is that they're funny

[hollow gate]

But the creator of 42 is the answer to life

Because if you create the answer of life you would have to know the answer to life

[old oak]

I don't think there is anyone we can attribute as "the creator of 42"

Natural numbers are a quite obvious object and were discovered/invented in multiple cultures across history, independently

[hollow gate]

Yes but if you are of religion you know God created man with the idea of creating the number 42

[old oak]

I'm not and she didn't

[hollow gate]

Oh

I believe God is real

[old oak]

You are of course entitled to that opinion

[hollow gate]

You should watch the case for christ if you would like to

But you don't have to

[old oak]

Yeah, I don't think I will

[hollow gate]

Well if you change your mind it is all about proving God is real

[old oak]

Surely the point of the existence of God is a belief

you can't prove a belief, either you accept the axiom or you don't

[hollow gate]

But I can prove it

[old oak]

I'm sure your God will appreciate that

[hollow gate]

Would you like to tell me why you think he is not real

[old oak]

Not really, the whole point of metaphysical beings is that they're outside of the realm of our observation, therefore unfalsifiable

You can believe in them and I can not, and it doesn't really matter

[hollow gate]

Yes but said metaphysical being has come to earth in human form jesus

[tacit wyvern]

guys i dont get how -1x-1= 1 but -1 squared is still -1

[old oak]

You are of course entitled to that opinion; since we don't really have much historical sources on Jesus we can't really make a judgment of his divinity based on observations; but we can believe it or not as we prefer

[old oak]

(-1)^2 is 1, though

[tacit wyvern]

on my calc is says its -1

[hollow gate]

We do have proof that Jesus can to earth

[old oak]

We do have a proof that a person corresponding to the biblical references to "Jesus Christ" existed and was executed in Judea during the reigns of Augustus/Tiberius, certainly

Reliable historical sources aren't really conclusive as to whether that person was the son of any god, though

Apparently he did lead/inspire some kind of sect that was later troublesome to the Romans

Which is why Roman sources mention him

[hollow gate]

There is evidence that he has done miracles

[old oak]

Again, you are perfectly entitled to believe in those miracles, in modern day people believe in homeopathy, astrology and free markets, so why not

[hollow gate]

But if there is proof that he was the son of God y not believe it

[peak tide]

$$$ mentioned

[tacit wyvern]

miracle is my calculator is telling me -1 squared is -1

[old oak]

I suppose my standards of what constitutes a "proof" are different than yours

And again, I think that's fine

[hollow gate]

What are your standards

[old oak]

I hope you and your god are very happy

[fresh oriole]

-1^2 = -1

[tacit wyvern]

WHAT

[old oak]

Well, in mathematics what constitutes a proof is fairly well established, outside of mathematics I favour the scientific method rooted in reproducible experiments.

[fresh oriole]

-1^2 is not -1 squared

that would be (-1)^2

[old oak]

Sadly we've only had one purported son of the biblical god so far, so reproducibility is a bit tricky

[peak tide]

one that you know of, for all you know i'm another one

[old oak]

Oh well done! Does that mean the end times are upon us?

That would explain a lot

[peak tide]

well don't get your hopes up that i'm gonna turn your water into wine

[old oak]

Cheers

How about beer?

[peak tide]

some kid burned down a congressman's office because tiktok briefly shut down

[peak tide]

i can turn beer into pee

[old oak]

Big deal, so can I

And I'm definitely not the son of any god

[peak tide]

hello brother

[old oak]

Although come to think of it, I genuinely don't know my dad

[peak tide]

that you know of

[old oak]

So I'm either the son of god or just an ordinary bastard

[hollow gate]

I will dm you my answer to that when I can

[old oak]

Please don't

[peak tide]

i've been reading too much poorly formatted math, i see "god" and i think g composed with d

[hollow gate]

I really want to try to convince you in Joshua ten there is a section were the sun and the moon stand still for a day

[fresh oriole]

when somebody is obviously not interested in your religious views, it’s polite not to press them about it

[old oak]

I've already been Christian, but then I read up and apparently god wants to kill me because I'm gay

So I'm not going to support him as a matter of principle

[hollow gate]

You should've started with that

[peak tide]

i liked him better when he only turned people into salt

[old oak]

I think it was just one person though

[peak tide]

that you know of

[mighty pilot]

I feel it can be argued, like there still are christians that accept homosexuality and there are even some lgbt priests that are more or less acknowledged by the pope

[peak tide]

was probably his favorite hobby

that's why the ocean is salty

[old oak]

The bibble explicitly says that gay people should be murdered, though

[mighty pilot]

But yeah christianism is quite anti-homosexuality

[mighty pilot]

The old bible yeah, there’s also the sodom part where its more or less explicit that the reason they all died was because yeah they did that

The new one i do not know

[old oak]

‘If a man has sexual relations with a man as one does with a woman, both of them have done what is detestable. They are to be put to death; their blood will be on their own heads.
Leviticus, 20:13

[hollow gate]

In the Bible it states being gay is a sin but we sin every day so if you ask for forgiveness you will be saved

[old oak]

So unless you reject the Old Testament, you're obligated to murder gay people

That's what your god commands

[mighty pilot]

But i feel many christians are like “look the bible can still be discussed because it was written in a particular historical context”, but i more or less agree (i’m athee btw)

[autumn lintel]

Do you know what a philosophical system is?

[old oak]

Is it a way to somehow reconcile your holy book commanding you to murder gay people with you not doing that?

[autumn lintel]

the bible is not the basis of christianity

[fresh oriole]

then the problem of sorting what is supposed to be taken as true and what’s “just written in a particular historical context” is insurmountable

[autumn lintel]

no

[autumn lintel]

A system of philosophy or philosophical system is seen as a set of statements that contain fundamental theses about at least four well-established parts of conceptual inquiry, since they are prerequisites for any discourse.

[old oak]

For the record, as a gay person I would very much prefer to remain unmurdered, which is why I reject the idea that the old testament is somehow a moral lodestone

[mighty pilot]

What

[autumn lintel]

You should also know that the Bible, like any other instrument of human construction, even if inspired, has flaws.

which means there is no perfect bible and will never be

[old oak]

The bible has flaws? Really?!

[hollow gate]

In the Bible it states if you ask for forgiveness you will be saved

[mighty pilot]

Basically you can be gay but you have to confess 2s before you die and you are saved

[old oak]

Why is me loving my husband something that requires forgiveness?

[peak tide]

cursing or striking one's parents is punishable by death!

[autumn lintel]

Why do you talk like you're bothered? I'm not saying the obvious out of coldness, I'm just reminding you of a point that changes your immediate perspective on what was said.

[autumn lintel]

I see, that's why

[old oak]

I wasn't being bothered, I was being sarcastic.

[mighty pilot]

Yeah i feel you dont need anyway to be christian X) but many gay christian people are in this deep suffering because of their faith and community pressure

[hollow gate]

You are free to love your husband but the bible states being gay is a sin and God created man and women to love eachother

[mighty pilot]

Its very sad but i feel its one of those things that might evolve, like the catholicism really need to go under modernization if it wants to survive

Like blockchain ai and shit

[old oak]

Yep, which provides bigots with a convenient excuse for gay-bashing

[autumn lintel]

Don't worry, there are many other religions that hate homosexuality, you don't have to feel pain for one instrument or another or for all, these opinions and doctrines are not in your control.

[hollow gate]

What's a bigot

[old oak]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bigot

[hollow gate]

So someone biased

[mighty pilot]

I dont know if a christian should hate homosexuality, it goes against the christ’s teaching, who even accepted prostitution and every sins etc. (From the perspective of a christian of course)

[fresh oriole]

everyone is biased

[mighty pilot]

I feel the good christian should even accept that murder is human and be forgiven

[autumn lintel]

I will confirm what you say from personal experience. In my case, I can testify that what I see is not mere suffering, but an expression of love that perhaps, forgive my presumption, you are not yet accustomed to. In addition to others I know who, like any other "sin", are welcomed and fight their deviations aiming for a greater love, because that is what they believe in and it is not something that is imposed. I am not denying that there are other cases in which there are impositions, especially family ones, but I also cannot ignore so many particular cases that inspire me and that clearly highlight the effects of the so-called "sexual revolution" on people's minds.

[peak tide]

so white and colored men could pee together but they could not drink water together?

[autumn lintel]

accepting the sinner is not the same as loving the sin

[hollow gate]

True

[jade maple]

-1^2 = -1(1^2). (-1)^2 = -1x-1=1. the paranthesesis matters

[tacit wyvern]

https://tenor.com/view/crying-reaction-sad-table-slam-gif-22790012

[autumn lintel]

geometry and calculus are probably the funniest topics of maths

[ember lance]

wait I vaguely remember you referencing a boyfriend at some point, and now you are referencing a husband. Does that mean you got married? If so congrats!

[old oak]

Sadly not really, because my country's laws don't allow same-sex marriages (see also, bigotry)

But we've been together for 17 years and we've made as much of the legal arrangements outside of the official "marriage" label as we could

And the people who think it's somehow a sin can fuck right off

[woven osprey]

i will like to congratulate you for this its basically marriage

[ember lance]

17 yrs is a super long time congrats on that

[solid snow]

the bible doesnt actually mention this explicitly

[mighty pilot]

Its quite fucked up in the 21 century that people that love each other still can’t marry in some country. In some countries discriminations are even getting worse..

[old oak]

It does explicitly mention that gay people should be murdered, though (Leviticus 20:13, and probably other places)

[woven osprey]

outrageous

[hollow gate]

That may be true but the bible says being gay is wrong so it would leave you no choice but to marry the opposite sex

[solid snow]

it doesnt say that

its purely interpretation and product of translation

its also the old testament so..

[hollow gate]

Just because it is the ot doesn't mean it's wrong

[old oak]

Corinthians 6:9-10:

Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men[a] 10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

[solid snow]

ah so slavery is ok then in your view

[hollow gate]

Not everything is wrong some things changed

[old oak]

Mark 10:6-9:

But at the beginning of creation God ‘made them male and female.’[a] 7 ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife,[b] 8 and the two will become one flesh.’[c] So they are no longer two, but one flesh. 9 Therefore what God has joined together, let no one separate.”

[solid snow]

thats fair

[solid snow]

so you pick and choose which things are wrong

interesting

[hollow gate]

No

[autumn lintel]

being gay is not a sin, to practice acts of sexual disorder is

like any other sin or any other sexual disorder act

[solid snow]

😐

[autumn lintel]

why? because science is cool

[solid snow]

what

[old oak]

When a man sells his daughter as a slave, she will not be freed at the end of six years as the men are. If she does not satisfy her owner, he must allow her to be bought back again. But he is not allowed to sell her to foreigners, since he is the one who broke the contract with her. But if the slave’s owner arranges for her to marry his son, he may no longer treat her as a slave but as a daughter.

[hollow gate]

I am unsure but that may be true

[old oak]

Do you stand by this?

[mighty pilot]

No well for a christian i think what he wants to say is that being gay is not a sin but having sex with same gender is a sin

And science taught the chritians that homosexuality is qbiological

[fresh oriole]

wow, that makes it a lot better (not)

[mighty pilot]

Yeah its not

[old oak]

If you prefer the new testament, here's a passage from Ephesians:

Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ. 6 Obey them not only to win their favor when their eye is on you, but as slaves of Christ, doing the will of God from your heart. 7 Serve wholeheartedly, as if you were serving the Lord, not people, 8 because you know that the Lord will reward each one for whatever good they do, whether they are slave or free.

[peak tide]

this was part of the employee handbook where i worked

[old oak]

I mean, there's a reason radical free-marketeers and bible-bashers are such a firm alliance

[autumn lintel]

So Hitler wasn't guilty?

[peak tide]

i briefly worked at a company where they had "prayer breakfasts" every morning, yet another great reason not to be an "early to work" type

this was in orange county, ca (of course)

[autumn lintel]

I mean, science has proven to us that mental disorders are biological consequences. As a good naturalist (in the literary sense) that I am, I believe that the actions of a psychopath, for example, whether manipulating (to reduce their possible response regarding disproportion) or killing, have no connection to moral action, since this would be just an object of behavioral analysis that acts only in a fictitious space; reality is only limited to forces, scalars and material things. The blame cannot be placed on someone who was moved only by nature; the beauty of biology would be this imperfection (which exists only for us).

[unborn meteor]

every person is "moved" by nature

[autumn lintel]

You are referring to the 4 meanings of movement, right?

[unborn meteor]

no

[mighty pilot]

From what premisse and logical thinking did you arrive at this ?

[autumn lintel]

This has nothing to do with my message, but let's go to some context that you left out:
Exodus 21:2-8
[2]When you buy a Hebrew slave, he shall serve six years; in the seventh year he shall go out free without paying anything.
[3]If he went in alone, he shall go out alone; if he has a wife, his wife shall go with him.
[4]But if his master gave him a wife, and she bore him sons and daughters, the woman and her children shall be her master's property, and he shall go out alone.
[5]But if the slave says, 'I love my master, my wife and my children; I do not want to be set free,'
[6]then his master shall bring him before God and make him stand near the doorpost or the post, and pierce his ear with an awl; and the slave shall be his servant forever.
[7]If a man has sold his daughter to be a slave, she shall not go out free on the same terms as the slave. [8]If she displeases her master who had destined her for himself, he shall redeem her; but he may not sell her to a foreigner after she has been unfaithful to him.

[old oak]

So you stand by that in its entirety?

[unborn meteor]

me when i don't believe in the bible

[peak tide]

why weren't foreigners allowed to buy the unfaithful girl slaves? was it a national security thing?

[autumn lintel]

The premise that the guilt we are considering, and I have not seen anyone escaping the most common of systems when it comes to the subject, which is the Aristotelian system, is an immaterial part of the set of relations of the psyche, like a function whose independent variable is its responsibility, but this is contained in a higher reality (possible universe that moves those moved). So, by your message that affirms a certain "refutation" from the scientific proof blah blah blah that this is a psychological problem, I just assumed that you are, therefore, affirming that there is no truth that encompasses, in itself, the morality that responds to the natural purpose. Therefore, I conclude that everything that exists is only matter and act, but does not depend on a first cause that sustains it and reflects in itself the purposes of its "caused". Basically, if we cannot attribute blame to those who practice sexual disorders, including the scientifically proven biological homosexuality, we also cannot attribute blame to those who practice the famous "evil", as this also has no dependence on natural reality, it would just be the name given to a pattern that SHOULD occur.

[unborn meteor]

a big flaw here is you think being gay is a disorder

if you say that, might as well have everything being a disorder

[sleek wing]

are mfs like this real or am I being punked

[autumn lintel]

the only problem, actually, was that you didn't refute it

[autumn lintel]

yeah there are many disorders

[unborn meteor]

ugh im not dealing with this guy

[frail lagoon]

Cherry picking + out of context +

Joking.

[sleek wing]

we don't need to refute assaholic takes buddy. Your opinion leads to suffering, ours doesn't. I win you lose night night bye bye sleep tight don't let the bed bugs bite

[autumn lintel]

people love money, people kill, people control others, people like being depressed, people like having sex with this, with those things, with other things, with illegal ones and it goes

[frail lagoon]

(Though note that this is restricted to Hebrew slaves)

[old oak]

I mean, you probably should cherry pick the best slaves rather than just taking the whole batch unexamined

[frail lagoon]

Anyway

We should not rly discuss more dicey topics like this here, in a maths server

[old oak]

Fair

[frail lagoon]

Especially since i do not like this direction lol

[autumn lintel]

The discussion of philosophy is even very related to mathematics, since it uses common resources such as logic.

[frail lagoon]

I agree

But discussing the morality omosexuality is slightly further afield...

[neat lintel]

o pedro vaimver goatis pra entender

[dense tree]

why the hell we getting religious in the numbers server

[autumn lintel]

Tollendo ponens

[dense tree]

huh

im just here to up my numbers game dawg not to discuss the validity of my existence

[zealous garden]

Ask Thales and Pythagoras

[dense tree]

oh yea pythag was a dude

i forgor

[leaden torrent]

we disallow arranging financial transactions on this server and strongly discourage doing so on discord in general

easy to get scammed

[raven plaza]

Your argument still goes through if you replace "homosexuality" with "manhood", "blondeness", "genetic illness"

"if we cannot attribute blame to those who are blonde, we also cannot attribute blame to those who practice the famous evil"

The problem is no one thinks being blonde is a priori something that someone should be blamed for

[nocturne marsh]

hey would someone who is very good at math be able to help me and my friend with our math work it is due tomorrow and we have been stumped the passed hour

[raven plaza]

!help

[quasi jetty]

To ask for mathematics help on this server, please open your own help channel or help thread. See #❓how-to-get-help for instructions.

[nocturne marsh]

@raven plaza i had posted for help a bit ago but got no reply so i thought asking in here would help me get someone willing to help us.

[raven plaza]

And why should there be guilt associated with homosexuality?

Immoral for which reasons?

I can't see where you explain how this is "immoral" or is a "disorder"

[nocturne marsh]

@raven plaza quick question would you be able to help me and my friend?

[raven plaza]

Hm what's your help channel

[nocturne marsh]

well i posted my question into the help forum

but i dont know how to make it a channel

[swift idol]

mathematics discord btw

and you're doing all this to prove a single guy wrong

been at this since 2:30 😭 🙏

cool... go make a book about it or something

prove them all wrong

about your points...?

must have a lot to say

this can be your step into writing

thats what i thought until i read the republic

its not common knowledge

everything can be examined on a deeper level

i dont think plato became renown from assuming everyone knew what justice and injustice meant

i didnt, no

my ap lang teacher had us do a whole analysis on it

its interesting, kinda

[leaden torrent]

just ping mods for shitters like that

[nocturne marsh]

@leaden torrent Hey can you answer a couple math questions for me they wouldnt be hard at all for you

ill send you money if necesarry

like if you can help me please do

[leaden torrent]

we dont allow offering money for mathematics help on the server

regardless, please read #❓how-to-get-help

[nocturne marsh]

how about nitro

like bro please

i got no responce of value from the help

he just told me i need to find lengths but gave me no insight on how to answer the question

just gave me a riddle

[upbeat heart]

They help in that way so you can understand the question, what's happening behind the scene, rather than blantantly giving answer

Wait nvm

[merry lynx]

i want to test what i don't know about math in general i need a website something that can show me what level i am at what i need to improve on for free send me the link to it

[lunar ruin]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OmJ-4B-mS-Y

[ionic star]

https://code.golf

[upbeat heart]

Can anyone give me some recursive math problems for 12th grade?

[broken zephyr]

find the sum of this sequence 1,2,3,4,5,...,n

[true zinc]

n(n+1)/2

[broken zephyr]

yes i know

show your work tho bozo

what are some good tutoring websites for math? i am looking to be a tutor not to be tutored

[vocal vessel]

Rude

[broken zephyr]

but fair

[vocal vessel]

Nope. Just rude

Do your own work

[broken zephyr]

ok

[broken zephyr]

i am an undergraduate mathematics student so i dont have a degree yet

[surreal sapphire]

i would suggest to look locally

preferably directly without involving a third party

[livid basalt]

I'm going to Paris this wednesday (22/01) for a week and then going to Brussels for a week. Does anybody have any expositions or museums related to math or physics to recommend in these locations?

[mighty pilot]

Hey, yeah in paris there is a new math museum that opened last year, i’ve not been there yet but heard its good

If you understand french, every month there ‘s a free exposé from famous mathematicians oriented to undergrads at the institut henry poincaré

Also if its not science related i would suggest you to spend half a day in the pompidou if its not closed yet

The louvre might still have an exhibition around « la folie »,

[drifting lark]

Anyone here into Lambda Calculus / Recursion Theory?

[true zinc]

#theoretical-cs #foundations #proofs-and-logic #discrete-math

!da2a

[quasi jetty]

No need to ask “Can I ask…?” or “Does anyone know about…?”—it’s faster for everyone if you just ask your question! See https://dontasktoask.com/

[drifting lark]

Ah, I did not see that channel

I don't have a particular question yet, I was just curious

[true zinc]

You asked if someone were interested in a topic without having a question? You do realize that you're allowed to start a discussion spontaneously, right?

[broken zephyr]

i already have a tutoring job at my college i was just looking for online opportunities

[livid basalt]

what is the name of the museum?

[livid basalt]

i was searching about that one! It is called Maison Poincaré, right?

[livid basalt]

ok, i will look into it!

[short bay]

Hihi uhmmm
Can I ask about tips for learners or new people?
I'll be honest, I never paid attention to math classes, but in the last semesters I took physics classes and I loved it.
So I would like to study physics at university but I have seen that you have to master mathematics very well and well... Here I am '^^

[sharp mulch]

What sort of advice are you looking for

Obviously you need to get good at math

[short bay]

Oh right, that's a good question
Well, mainly some way to start, places or sites that you can recommend me for it, books or things like that and well maybe some tips for studying

[sharp mulch]

What math level do you feel comfortable up to

[short bay]

Ah, maybe from what I saw in high school, integral calculus, probability and statistics and derivatives, I think that would be good.

[sharp mulch]

Professor leonard has youtube videos

There is khan academy

If you want a textbook, a pretty standard college calculus textbook is Calculus by Stewart

[short bay]

Oh oki I will watch that videos and enter those classes then

[short bay]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-g-gif-19285628

[vague snow]

guys, what do i do when i want to learn a new thing but i just dont fucking understand like a dumbass

[static loom]

well, the good thing is you want to learn, so keep at it and just let it take as long as it takes and try to be patient with yourself.

[vague snow]

feels like im a monkey trying to understand calculus

but thank you

[static loom]

you might have to change up your approach and keep trying different things to see what works for you

[static loom]

I think to some extent, we all kind of are in this boat haha

[vague snow]

[mighty pilot]

Maison poincaré is the name of the museum, but the exposé thing is different, its here: https://www.ihp.fr/fr/mathematic-park

but if you don't understand french, it might not be great

they sometime get quite hardcore

[gaunt veldt]

is anyone here?

guessnot

:<

[gaunt veldt]

oh, hi

[upbeat heart]

Bruh

[teal ridge]

hi

[jade crane]

hello!

[narrow carbon]

hi

[upbeat heart]

[turbid yew]

hello, are we allowed to ask physics questions here?

in the help channels I mean

[azure sleet]

@turbid yew

[turbid yew]

oh, thank you!

[azure sleet]

No problem!

[turbid yew]

[jaunty ibex]

[livid basalt]

I don't speak french, sadly 😢

[narrow carbon]

Goat

Oh its like 3 and half hours ago lol

I am late actually

[jaunty ibex]

[teal ridge]

[desert token]

Any online sites with good practice problems for Sets and Venn Diagrams?

[upbeat heart]

[tawdry tartan]

[true zinc]

when :hodge: enters chat

[rose locust]

[woven osprey]

who wants to talk abt grilled cheese sandwiches 😄

[rose locust]

ooh

I haven’t had one in a while

like.. years

[dry ember]

whats the difference between asking about stuff in the #help channels vs the more focused channels below like #calculus or #linear-algebra

[mint canopy]

Different people hang out in different channels

Oh, and #linear-algebra in particular gets spammed a lot

Take that as you will

[dry ember]

um well
i wanna ask a question about something called newton's method
but i dont wanna ask in the #help channels because its not for school or a project its just a thing im curious about

research tells me its a calculus thingy

but i dont remember encountering such a thing in my time in calculus

[mint canopy]

It's a calculus thing

I would suggest in general asking for forgiveness rather than permission

Just ask in whatever channel appears appropriate, and people will point you in the right direction if necessary.

#calculus is fine

[scarlet thistle]

what is the difference between d/dx and dy/dx?

[mighty pilot]

D/dx is the operator that transform a function of a certain space into another, why is called its derivative

Dy/dx is the derivative of y

So d/dx (y) = dy/dx

[scarlet thistle]

so this is general, the other is specific, right?

[mighty pilot]

Neither are general nor specific, just y is either a function or a function holder

[scarlet thistle]

like d/dx is the generic term

with dy/dx designating a specific function

[mighty pilot]

yeah basically yeah

[solid snow]

d/dx is an operator

[terse fiber]

never understood why massive servers puts lgbtq+ flags where they don't even fit, what has to Physics and math with lgbtq+?
feels out of place, most of the time.

[glass peak]

Gay people exist, horrible cunts with nothing better to do give them a hard time, we want to demonstrate that’s not cool here

Basically why

[unborn meteor]

like 80% of active users here are lgbt

[limber thunder]

our server's icon is like the subtlest LGBT colors ever in existence I don't get why people complain about it unless it's their own ideological bias against it

it looks cool and if anything it's fair to subtly signal we're a safe space for diverse folks

[unborn meteor]

one time there was this guy that argued about it with mods for like 20 mins

[limber thunder]

many such incidents........................

[unborn meteor]

true

[glass peak]

I had never noticed it in the old logo and honestly if I wasn’t in the channel documenting the creation of this one I’m not sure I’d have noticed it either

[terse fiber]

It fits quite nicely. I like the design

[terse fiber]

I think most server don't tolerate being hatefull to lgbtq+ . Usually server with are against or don't care are pretty clear about it

[glass peak]

Just as we’re very clear about this being a safe space for LGBT people

[terse fiber]

Well I guess, but why specifally for LGBT, why not let's say asians, blacks, jewish people, polish people, russians e.c.t

Do they need more safe places than those groups of people?

I'm guessing it is more popular to hate lgbtq+ person than black person

[mint canopy]

This isn’t a ranking game

We can have safe spaces for all those groups.

Why are you presenting it as if we have to decide which group to favour?

[glass peak]

Support isn’t mutually exclusive

[limber thunder]

we can and in fact we do, in our case the #rules says to not "harass and discriminate against groups or individuals"

[glass peak]

This is a safe space for everyone other than bigots

[limber thunder]

I think what makes LGBTQ+ as a group stand out in this case is that they're more or less uniformly present across the entire world

and have collectively decided to identify using various symbolisms e.g. the pride flag

[glass peak]

We’re all here because we love maths, and anyone can love maths and should be given a space where they can enjoy that in peace

[terse fiber]

Oh well, I was just curious. Good to know

[teal ridge]

[burnt ledge]

i had to read this a few times to realise u werent being homophobic here

😭

thought that was very uncharacteristic of Nope

[limber thunder]

a "but" in the middle would help lol

[burnt ledge]

i think i was automentally inserting a comma between 'do' and 'give'

[plain musk]

Hey can someone help me with a simple bearing problem?

[upper girder]

Hello

[plain musk]

Hi

[jaunty ibex]

[upbeat heart]

We listen we don't judge

[odd geode]

@upper girder hello

[tawdry tartan]

[old oak]

To be fair, there are quite a few horrible cunts among gay people

[fresh oriole]

point makes a lot of sense

[glass peak]

At least it stood out as weird

[west sundial]

"A but in the middle would help" sounds interesting without context

[wanton coyote]

[old oak]

Yep, here I am

[ember lance]

(your local biased) News Channel is looking for you, they want to make you CEO

[sage glen]

sorry in advance if this is not the right chat box
Is anyone looking for M1 (Cambridge) basic notes? Feel free to knock if interested.

[wanton coyote]

i will spew right wing talking points and take leftists out of context like no other :3

[upbeat heart]

[neat lintel]

erm... so basically like every middle ages guild

[old oak]

A gayild

[neat lintel]

I deem you a worthy member of the house of gay

[glass peak]

Real

[jaunty ibex]

[gusty socket]

dm modmail @polar panther

[plain island]

okie dokie dm @polar panther

nope!

you'll dm modmail

[gusty socket]

modmail is how you reach the mods

[sharp mulch]

It’s giving ban appeal

[plain island]

do i look like i read my dms

[gusty socket]

it's not, you just dm the bot, it's just like you're having a conversation.

[sharp mulch]

Well that isn’t happening

[vague ferry]

damn

yo this guy is def getting banned

unironically trying to ban themself

😭

[gusty socket]

wow! it worked!

[sharp mulch]

[vague ferry]

I guess we'll never know what they needed to talk about

[gusty sapphire]

[tawdry tartan]

[burnt ledge]

Complete the quote !!

Give them a hard time. We want to demonstrate that's not cool around here.

[wanton coyote]

that's amazing

[hidden isle]

BOMBAAAAAAAAA

[spice siren]

Good Evening. Just asking is cleopatra, cleo from Stack?

[fading shuttle]

what do you mean?

[feral dragon]

hundreds of years ago, how did we make maps with any accuracy?
I think the simple answer is "we didn't, they sucked"
but idk
how would you figure out where the equator is
like you would've heard tales about how other places have different weather, and tales about how if you sail far enough south, it's the opposite season of the year

[old oak]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_cartography

[feral dragon]

this just confirms the "we didn't they sucked" statement

[agile fiber]

we had to develop very sophisticated navigation techniques for the sake of making long-distance sea voyages without getting hopelessly lost

[feral dragon]

okay yeah that one's pretty impressive

[vivid halo]

well you can estimate your location with things like sextants and compasses

you can get pretty accurate maps by very carefully mapping coastlines with a huge amount of effort and time

[sonic sentinel]

CHAT DID I COOK

[limber thunder]

idk what that is but looks cool

[sonic sentinel]

system 1: unconscious, long-term memory, think "feeling" or "intuition"
system 2: conscious, short-term memory, think "reasoning" or "attention"

the table is supposed to classify different types of conflicts when someone doesn't want to do some X which is good for them

the idea came to me cause i was thinking about school and the fact that different students might not want to do the same thing, but they "don't want to do it" in different ways

[brazen mulch]

internalized transphobia sounds like the rare case; I'd defer to teaching why X is good

(I'm not reliable in determining more about dis)

[limber thunder]

I see, reminds me of cybernetics terms

[sonic sentinel]

what the f u c k is cybernetics

i keep hearing that term what is that