#serious-discussion

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quartz pawn
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im summer schooling my geoemtry credits

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to take trig next year

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and then pre calc year after

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and finishing school off

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with calc

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or ap calc

carmine dirge
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how's it going guys?

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I always do what I have to do

tulip void
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How do I use $50,000 to enhance my looks to attract more women besides limb lengthening surgery which I may seriously consider getting

opal mica
opal mica
opal mica
urban rivet
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Hello Guys!

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best resources for statistics?

true zinc
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Undergraduate, Grad, etc...

urban rivet
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and i want to study for my postgraduate

true zinc
true zinc
urban rivet
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basically I am doin master in operational research

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Coming from tech background

true zinc
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Okay

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Our uni requires courses on stochastics, probability, etc...

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so we'll give you books on those topics

urban rivet
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yeah

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My first sem:
Linear programming
Python
Queuing System
Inventory Management
Statistics

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Goin to join university from next week

true zinc
true zinc
true zinc
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(via a book like Abbott, Rudin, etc...)

urban rivet
true zinc
# urban rivet Nope

Well at this point I think just Blitzstein and Hwang's stat110 book is all you need if you need to refresh undergrad probability, if they go further, then we can suggest more advanced readings

carmine dirge
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thank you bro

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you talk too much

true zinc
north topaz
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if you have 50,000 you should save or invest it

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50,000 can still pay off college if invested

unborn meteor
north topaz
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depends how much risk you want to take

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50,000 in US government bonds can still become 100,000 in 20 years

carmine dirge
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fine.

patent bone
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hlo

solid snow
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Dont recommend tren to people

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Fuck is wrong with you

true zinc
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  1. what is tren
  2. why is that person recommending it
solid snow
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its a steroid

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but its normally used to juice up cattle

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it has insanely bad effects on the body

true zinc
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Oh

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That is

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why would someone recommend that yikes

glass peak
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I mean it does get you huge

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Just at the cost of like years of your life and your general health

jagged forge
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and your testicles

glass peak
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Do they permanently shrink or is it just while your test levels are like 200x natural?

jagged forge
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that’s a good question, i have no idea bleakkekw

old oak
leaden skiff
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I have a friend who uses tren and he was pretty casual about it

true zinc
leaden skiff
solid snow
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very badly

neat lintel
white temple
idle narwhal
loud snow
flat cloud
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do you think all undergrad math can be self taught from internet/books?

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I wanna learn all math I can but its too late to change my major lol

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this is mostly directed at courses like complex analysis, algebraic topology and such

verbal karma
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unless one can read any books, then sure you can self-taught

north topaz
fresh comet
north topaz
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it's crazy that half a billion people fit in a circle with radius of 450 km tho

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just that part of the world alone

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and also some of it is ocean

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half the world

fresh comet
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indeed, the density is insane

loud snow
verbal karma
north topaz
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I watched some more related videos

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and starting in 2050 or something the world population centre is going to move west

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by 2100 it will be in Saudi Arabia

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cause of Africa

carmine dirge
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that's so boring

valid ibex
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react to this song Hanumankind- Big Dawgs

carmine dirge
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yes that's it

neat lintel
rapid kiln
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@wise bloom hey
have you noticed that most of the people just ask questions in Help Forum and then disappear

quick beacon
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I've noticed.

wise bloom
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Yes

quick beacon
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But it's fine

wise bloom
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See bro

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Anyone will

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Most of the times help reaches late than in the help channels

rapid kiln
wise bloom
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Yes

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I k that

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I feel people post their queries to get immediate help but it often leads to the opposite

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In the help forum

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The only solution to this is either we equalise the help forum with the channels or we increase the no of channels i mean like double or triple it

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And also decrease the timeout time so that channels refresh faster after getting solved

rapid kiln
wise bloom
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Maybe I am wrong and it's only for the helpful?

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Idk maybe u need a specific role to access them

rapid kiln
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maybe it'll be something else

wise bloom
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No i feel

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It's a refreshing chamber or section

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Where after the help channels get closed

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They refresh and then come back to

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The

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Original help section

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That's why it says hidden maybe?

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I am not sure

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Which is true

rapid kiln
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I've never seen those numbered channels being used

wise bloom
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Idk

vocal vessel
chrome marsh
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@verbal root sorry I passed out hard last night KEK

verbal root
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Its ok broski

coarse bridge
neat lintel
neat lintel
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What is thiscplace

vocal sedge
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what is this fking place

leaden torrent
coarse bridge
tawdry pecan
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So true

urban rivet
patent bone
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hlo

civic folio
true zinc
civic folio
true zinc
civic folio
carmine dirge
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what?

surreal jacinth
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Opinions on stimulant use in math?

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specifically adhd style medications (prescribed of course)

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do they provide an advantage to learning?

gusty socket
north topaz
sonic sentinel
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i already finished ap calculus ab as a school subject should i try to see if i can skip my normal math classes in grade 12 :P

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cause the school lets you skip physics if you took ap physics 1

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me and my friend took calculus one year earlier, so possibly we could lobby the principal into giving us a free period as in ap physics

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the alternatives are (1) study stats instead of calc (2) take calc class but ask for reduced tasks

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the stats teacher is already very laid-back so i think it would be the better of the two options

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but im not sure if taking stats in school is worth it

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in summary the three options are (1) stats (2) calc but slack off a bit (3) slack off entirely

austere cipher
obsidian leaf
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What did you guys do for entertainment in high school? I find online games quite fun and connective to other online people, but it seems to affect my memory of academic subjects like maths/chemistry/biology…

unborn meteor
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and play games

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ofc

unborn meteor
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if you're gaming during class you don't hear the teacher (unless you're good)

obsidian leaf
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I'm talking about your free time at home or break time at school...

unborn meteor
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ah

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i don't have a problem forgetting stuff

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when i code or play games

sonic sentinel
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my school "offers" calc bc as in they'll do a course audit for collegeboard and i self-study but occasionally consult with the calculus teacher

sonic sentinel
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im not sure if this counts as abusing the course audit system but i think its based of the school cause its useful to be able to take aps

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Any course that a school labels “AP” must receive authorization through a process called the AP Course Audit, which confirms teacher awareness of course scope and occasional exam changes, and ensures that confidential practice exams and other resources are only accessible to real AP teachers verified by a school administrator.

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^this makes it sound like what my school is doing is within the system

austere cipher
sonic sentinel
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i took ap calc ab

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that's what i meant in "taking calc one year earlier"

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ap calc ab has a proper teacher and classes and everything

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(but its after school cause my school is shit 💀)

austere cipher
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so, you're gonna take BC calc and an additional math class next school year, becuase the BC calc class doesn't show on your transcript?

sonic sentinel
# austere cipher so, you're gonna take BC calc and an additional math class next school year, bec...

im gonna take BC but its not gonna show up on my report card. i can choose to take stats or calc, but i can also probably convince the principal to let me skip math classes for senior year altogether (since i already have enough math credit). if i choose to take (essentially retake since i learned everything) calc classes, i might be able to negotiate a lower workload. if i choose to take stats, the good thing is that the teacher is laid back so additional workload isn't much of an issue.

sonic sentinel
# austere cipher ☠️

oh my god i was taking eight hour-long classes in a row with like 10 minute break to eat lunch while everyone was getting an hour long recess and goes home after six hour-long classes. im surprised i survived 11th grade.

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it's worth it now though if i can skip two classes daily

sonic sentinel
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honeslty im glad school is over soon

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i want my summer break to end quicker so i can just get through 12th

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never had that feeling before

austere cipher
austere cipher
austere cipher
unborn meteor
austere cipher
unborn meteor
austere cipher
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💀

unborn meteor
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why nerd emoji

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im not a nerd

austere cipher
unborn meteor
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makes em look a lot better

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and then i use WRECKED for running the code

austere cipher
unborn meteor
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this stuff works on school chromebook

austere cipher
unborn meteor
austere cipher
unborn meteor
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which blocking system are they using

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"malicious stuff" script kiddies detected

austere cipher
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I got no idea, I’m not really a computer science guy

unborn meteor
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like how do they block stuff

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do they use goguardian, securly, lanschool, or what

austere cipher
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No idea

austere cipher
unborn meteor
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my tech is completely sandboxed in the browser, the way they like it

unborn meteor
jaunty niche
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or more complicated

unborn meteor
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its a program that runs programs

jaunty niche
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huh right

unborn meteor
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WRECKED = Working Runtime Environment Creation Kit Enabling Debugging

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file:/// uri based program

hardy iron
unborn meteor
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the district is out for me

hardy iron
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My uni never blocked anything on their ethernet

unborn meteor
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lol

stiff barn
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.

ocean harbor
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so they block stuff

tidal prairie
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Hi

fresh comet
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hi

astral bay
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@left pewter just moved the convo to here, how do you like the remarkable tab? helpful for self-studying math?

left pewter
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I've had it for 3/2 years and I love it, I had a 50cm stack of notebooks before and now I can carry 100 times that in my hands

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((not based on calculations))

astral bay
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i have a couple wacom tablets

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they were super cheap on eBay

left pewter
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It's also great for reading papers and articles! If you don't have a printer/want to print everything out

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Ooo

astral bay
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i cant stand printing

left pewter
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Because it's too much paper?

astral bay
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yeah, it's just too much clutter

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i've got enough stuff already

left pewter
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Yeah it would become a lot after a short while if you don't recycle it regularly

astral bay
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right

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how do you think the remarkable compares to a iPad?

left pewter
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Hmm well in which aspects?

astral bay
left pewter
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Both have an internet connection, the ipad has apps (including browser) while the remarkable doesn't, taking notes and reading I think work well on both, the main difference being that the remarkable doesn't emit light and is relatively dim (even compared to paper, not a huge difference tho) unless you have a bright light. The pro with that is that it's so much easier on the eyes, the con is that you need a good light source

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I don't own an ipad personally

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I've heard you can get a screen protector that makes it more paperlike to write on

astral bay
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i wonder if maybe i can pick up a remarkable used on eBay

left pewter
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Perhaps

astral bay
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man, those are expensive, even used

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someone gave me an iPad

left pewter
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It cost me about 420 dollars to buy it new, but honestly it's been one of my best purchases even though I'm a poor student

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But

astral bay
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can you export a PDF off of the remarkable?

astral bay
left pewter
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If you have an ipad it might be good enough for you!

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Depends on what you think

left pewter
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You press a button and it sends it to your email

astral bay
left pewter
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They have an app on both desktop and mobile

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On desktop you just drag and drop

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One of the main criticisms people have on the remarkable is that it comes with an optional subscription service, so if it's important to you that documents are synced indefinitely between the remarkable and the app or that you can access stuff via google drive then you would need to subscribe to that

astral bay
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cool, do you happen to know if it works with Linux? i am using ubuntu

left pewter
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I haven't and it's not been a problem for me as everything I would do on paper works perfectly well

left pewter
astral bay
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hmm, thanks for answering these questions, ive been curious about remarkable for a long time, so its good i talked to you

left pewter
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Not really, the desktop app is just a bit nicer

astral bay
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maybe i will start bidding on one and get one for a low price at some point

left pewter
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No problem :^)

astral bay
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because the wacom tablets do just fine

left pewter
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Hope you can find one at a reasonable price

astral bay
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also, i have a GPD win max, if you know what that is

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i can write on that

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so if i need to go portable, i can write code, read PDFs, and take physical notes on the touchscreen

left pewter
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Ooo I haven't heard of that

astral bay
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its just a small laptop

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but it has a touchscreen

left pewter
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Woah, handheld gaming laptop

left pewter
astral bay
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yeah it's cool, and it's really good for an airplane

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because it fits on the tray table

left pewter
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Oooo yess

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I would love that when I used to work on programming projects all the time

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Before university 😢

astral bay
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when im learning math, i like to code as many of the problems as possible, to keep up with coding skills at the same time

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any calculation related problem, i write a python program to do it

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or R

left pewter
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Ohh nice!

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Yeah I've been using julia & matlab to code up smaller things

astral bay
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yeah if you're interested in that sort of thing, you should check out Jupyter Notebook and Python

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oh there you go!

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that's awesome

left pewter
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It's different from working on a project though heh

astral bay
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oh for sure

left pewter
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It's so fun to have a bigger idea and work towards it

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But it takes A LOT of time

astral bay
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agree

left pewter
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Which I used to have

astral bay
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you will have it back when you finish your degree(s)

left pewter
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Hopefully, at least partly

astral bay
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but you can just integrate the coding in with anything really

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there isn't much that coding can't help with

left pewter
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Yess that's part of why I chose to study space engineering instead of computer science

carmine dirge
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hey guys let paly this

astral bay
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i wish i had thought like you when i did my degree

left pewter
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I want to apply my programming skills to different areas and widen my knowledge of other stuff

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But I am occasionally curious about computer science stuff that you learn in university

astral bay
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i think you can just pick up a book or do leet code programs for that

left pewter
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I only have knowledge from programming projects and reading online and nerding about between ages 14-18

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So like the practical part I have nailed down, I spent like most of my free time on it for many years

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I know too much about c++

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It's more the theoretical parts and more low level stuff I lack

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But yeah I should find some interesting book hehe

astral bay
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i miss those times

left pewter
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Well now I don't really feel like working as a programmer. I'm much more scientifically and mathematically inclined nowadays and want to do something good for the planet and not some random company

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But enjoying my time in college I do because I love to learn

left pewter
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Thanks, will do :^)

still badge
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hi

ocean harbor
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hai

south kelp
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Hi Akira the hun

ocean harbor
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henlo 992

fresh comet
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hello

steel cave
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Hello

solid yarrow
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hi higher :3

fresh comet
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hello f0xy :3c

visual bison
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Hey yall are any of yall interested in seeing a random ahh kid learn calculus while being an idiot and struggling a lot at random intervals?

jaunty ibex
visual bison
mint canopy
crude trellis
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Hmm

hardy island
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I am going back to learning math as an adult now and it's so cool to learn it not for exams

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you really feel motivated to deeply understand concepts in calc and it's nice

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3blue1brown really helps too

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I have a medical degree so it's also weird going back to freshman level math again but I really feel like I missed out on how beautiful and mind expanding these concepts are

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/ reflection

modest relic
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Hi, can someone check out my help channel, #48, plz?

quasi jettyBOT
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Please do not advertise your help channel or thread in other parts of the server. There are many people who need help, so advertising can quickly turn into spam.

unborn sleet
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@flint plover hey you still got an issue with that exercise?

carmine dirge
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hey

urban rivet
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Can anyone tell me why square in variance formula```
unborn meteor
urban rivet
unborn meteor
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again idk

true zinc
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this I think

urban rivet
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why not mod ?

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|x-xbar|

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It's like sqrt(2+2)==sqrt2+sqrt2

gusty socket
urban rivet
true zinc
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sqrt(2+2) = sqrt(4) = 2

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sqrt(2) + sqrt(2) = 2.828

urban rivet
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because the square root of variance ends up being the std. deviation that doesn;t means that

true zinc
gusty socket
true zinc
north topaz
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check that out if you're interested

haughty panther
haughty panther
quiet geode
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is modular arithmetic linear algebra in 1D?

prime plank
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the integers modulo any prime is a vector space over itself

quiet geode
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i dont understand

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i am shit

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sorry for wasting your time

unborn trellis
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Z/pZ is a field, so it's a 1D vector space

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But modular arithmetic is not linear algebra

quiet geode
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is it a subset

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subset~ish

unborn trellis
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I mean, you can do linear algebra over these finite fields

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This is something people study extensively

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So you'd be interested in Z/pZ-linear maps between vector spaces

quiet geode
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im interested in

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wine

unborn trellis
quiet geode
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please

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ive had a terrible mathematical experience

unborn trellis
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So in what sense were you making the analogy between 1D linear algebra and finite fields

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It seems like you actually have good intuition lol

quiet geode
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Thank you maam, i think im gonna cry

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i think i vibe too much with math (very loosely)

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at this moment i dont know what a vector is and i dont know what modular arithmetic is

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yet

unborn trellis
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You're onto something, keep it up 🫡

quiet geode
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i cant, i think ive lost it, thats the painful part

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really appreciate the words of encouragement though, ive not had a good time

loud snow
quiet geode
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all of jumbled mess couldve been sorted had i figured a way to relearn it as how a 4 year old would do

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i need to reset my brain somehow and still be me

loud snow
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Consume brainrot

unborn trellis
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If it's any consolation, I was nearly failing math in high school until I started getting motivated

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I have a failed math test pinned to my corkboard to keep me humble lol

quiet geode
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its not even about failure in instituition at this point, cant care any less about them

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its my mind

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I really appreciate it though

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LIKE REALLY

unborn trellis
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I get that though

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I really didn't think I would even graduate from college until I started tbh

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As a mind thing

quiet geode
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Ive tried to relearn stuff but it almost feels like the past experiences are influencing too much with what im TRYING to learn

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youd be surprised by the number of times ive asked what is a vector in this chat and walked away with satisfaction and yet somehow i again dont know anything

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my feelings about them isnt that straight forward

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i havent passed anything and yet somehow an honourable thinks i have good intuition

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IT MOVED ME

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SERIOUSLY

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thank you guys, imma head out

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ive had intuition about equivalence classes

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you guys gonna make my eyes wet again no way

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by thinking about a question that goes

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why is 5 in set of natural numbers needs to be equal to 5 in the set of integers

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if you get the point of the question

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youll get what im trying to convey

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boring answer

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it need not to be

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Equal

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we have MADE it equal

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actively

gusty socket
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it is not, actually, if you are trying to break it down set-theoretically. integers are equivalence classes of pairs of integers :) (the equivalence classes are given by (a,b) \equiv (c,d) if a+d = b+c in N)

quiet geode
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this is real analysis i think

unborn trellis
quiet geode
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blud

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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

loud snow
quiet geode
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the sets are sort of constructed in such a sophisticated manner that it will not disturb the already existing grassroots of mathematics that allows things to be consistent

gusty socket
unborn trellis
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the smay group

quiet geode
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hence we decided to make 5 in N equal to 5 in Z

gusty socket
quiet geode
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Oh yeah Norman Wildberger definitely would

unborn trellis
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We can construct both sets and write down an injection from one to the other in the obvious way, which is what I would formalize what you're saying as

unborn trellis
solid snow
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inclusion map catglasses

quiet geode
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i like him though

quiet geode
gusty socket
# quiet geode Oh yeah Norman Wildberger definitely would

no, i mean like if you are trying to be pedantic about what it means to be equal, then someone who is familiar about how Z is constructed would say that the set N and the set consisting of positive elements of Z are not equal. there is only an injection from N to Z (see: bacono's message above me)

unborn trellis
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He's a bit of a crank among mathematicians, just for your information

quiet geode
quiet geode
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he thinks the foundations are oxymoronic

unborn trellis
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What we're saying is that the formal process of identifying a set as a subset of another set is done through writing down a 1-to-1 map from one to the other

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So 5 in N and 5 in Z are equal because 5 in Z is the image of 5 in N under this mapping

unborn trellis
quiet geode
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yes

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ive wrote stuff about things like these before, i cant believe i wrote it myself as i can no longer understand anything in them

unborn trellis
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I think the fact that you're thinking about ideas like this deeply is great

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This is the essence of understanding formalism in mathematics

quiet geode
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i want to attach some images

quiet geode
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i feel like a complete idiot reading them 🤣🤣🤣

unborn trellis
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Lol I should send some things I wrote in notepad a couple years ago before I got better at math

quiet geode
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thing is, i was better at math before

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now i just zombie around

unborn trellis
quiet geode
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damn these require some hefty prerequistes

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mine do be plain simple english

unborn trellis
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For the record this is like 70% gibberish

quiet geode
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LOOOOOL

umbral forge
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I thought I was just having a stroke and being dumb

unborn trellis
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Yeah the answer is "equality is whatever we say it is" lol

quiet geode
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AMAZING GUYS

umbral forge
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Did you know that 2 * 2 is 2

quiet geode
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WILL THIS PLACE EVER RUN OUT OF VIBERS OF MY TYPE

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WAS DEAD FOR SOO LONG

unborn trellis
quiet geode
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man i unable to live upto my nickname now wtf

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reputation lost

unborn trellis
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math is full of nice people and assholes

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just ignore the assholes gigachad

quiet geode
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I love nice assholes

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tbh

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ive had

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a crush

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on an olympian

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not sexually heavy (if at all)

unborn trellis
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mathematics olympian or just straight up olympian

quiet geode
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she just supercute

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ive had a crush on bothb

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currently its straight up olympian

unborn trellis
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goals tbh

quiet geode
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yeah i had no intentions

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been unconsiously suppressing myself(?)

unborn trellis
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Everything is vibes

quiet geode
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ive started to feel better without engaging in any way or form

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vibes do be vibing yeah

unborn trellis
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God I remember in freshman year of HS I had a huge crush on this one girl, I literally never talked to her and then one day I asked her on an outing after feeling brave and she said "thanks but I don't know you"

quiet geode
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zamn

unborn trellis
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In retrospect, that was the obvious outcome lol

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Moral: be normal and have normal relationships with people before you ask them on an outing

quiet geode
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Yes exactly

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ive been writing pages worth of otherworldly shit to email to her lol

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while having 'be normal' on the back of my mind

unborn trellis
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I'm gonna say probably don't cold email her with pages of otherworldly shit

quiet geode
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yes been contemplating this all evening

quiet geode
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like as normal as it can get

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i was happy i managed to pull it off so nicely

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Laid back attitude

unborn trellis
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I also remember thinking in high school "I think I'm pretty normal, I don't think I'll look back at myself and cringe" opencry

quiet geode
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oh yeah that happens all the time

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i was insanely sensative to that

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until i got mentally disturbed outta nowhere

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why the fuck ive had the concept of entropy mentioned in the pages

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the analogy shoulda made me puke like 4 years ago

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i wouldnt actually give it a shot 4 years ago though

unborn trellis
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I have so many funny snippets in these notes

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isometry bleakkekw

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The second question is actually an interesting one

quiet geode
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i dont get anything (very unsual of me)

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i am never blank

unborn trellis
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That one was like a year or two into undergrad

quiet geode
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even if you throw the dardenest of shits at me

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i never managed to operate with higher dimensional terms with the same fluidity as opposed to pre college math

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so yeah

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i am recently thinking about probability as absence of enough data

unborn trellis
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you keep telling me these things as if you don't know anything but these are great instincts

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That's literally the idea behind Bayesian statistics

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Bayesian probability ( BAY-zee-ən or BAY-zhən) is an interpretation of the concept of probability, in which, instead of frequency or propensity of some phenomenon, probability is interpreted as reasonable expectation representing a state of knowledge or as quantification of a personal belief.
The Bayesian interpretation of probability can be se...

quiet geode
quiet geode
unborn trellis
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Probability theory is built on measure theory yes, but I mean philosophically how we interpret probability

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Frequentists believe that probability says "if I repeat this enough times, the ratio of successes to failures will converge to the probability"

quiet geode
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the name made too much sense to me lol

unborn trellis
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Bayesians think of probability in terms of priors and known information

quiet geode
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im pretty sure i wouldve loved this

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my situation is so fucked

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im neither an engineer nor a mathematician

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i have no leverage over people pursuation now (nor like i ever wanted to achieve that but now i think it wouldve been handy)

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basically due to my new attachments (unforunately?)

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man i still think about the iconic oneliners of this server

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subsubsub field so niche that youre basically one of the worlds three experts in it

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or something in a similar vein

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where the heck is buncho bananas when you need him

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Buncho micro pps

unborn trellis
quiet geode
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Buncho unit circles

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where are you guys

quiet geode
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i just dont want to grow

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ive had the best experiences of my life around that age

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something that has sustained even to this unlike some forcibly acquired concepts

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if i can still think of math the way i can do, id thank my 14-15 year old self

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ive had trouble framing sentences man

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the kind of pit i was in

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Thank you so much talking to me

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i knew yall always had my back

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i will never forget that

sinful orbit
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damn you okay

fresh comet
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<@&268886789983436800> ?

quiet geode
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m higher

fresh comet
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<@&268886789983436800> again...

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2x in the same channel, in less than an hour blobsweat

gusty socket
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😔

leaden torrent
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huh actually that may have been innocent lmao

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but coming right after an actual spammer made it look bad

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ill lift the ban

fresh comet
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ah...

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my mistake then

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I apologize for being too hasty

leaden torrent
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no i shouldve checked as well

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but link masking with a vague description made it suspicious

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the link was just to one of those "dude scrolls through the top posts on a subreddit" reaction videos

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which i will not consider GOOD content, but is not nefarious lmao

gusty socket
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lmao

calm sleet
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Hi

slow jewel
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Is there a calculator where I can input in latex expressino?

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I want to input my latex expression, and then have the calculator evaluate it

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I try putting it into wolfram alpha, but it messes up the latex format when I put it in! : (

versed drum
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Wait

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Okay nvm

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U can use chatgpt wolfram plugin

urban rivet
quick beacon
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@spring niche I apologize about last night. I simply fell asleep

maiden crown
unborn meteor
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@true zinc lets talk here

true zinc
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sure

unborn meteor
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ok according to project orion we need 25 million 1-megaton fusion bombs to get to 10% of the speed of light

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for like

true zinc
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that is

unborn meteor
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an interstellar ark

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a lot of stuff

true zinc
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a lot of energy

unborn meteor
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ok so

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well i have 2 black hole ideas

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first one is to generate power

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second one is orion drive

true zinc
# unborn meteor a lot of stuff

Also, speedy I think the reason we haven't tried to literally harness black holes is because either A: it's currently impractical and/or B: we don't know how to

unborn meteor
true zinc
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not to shut you down, but we have a feeling some particle physicist somewhere would have already tried to run the numbers before

true zinc
unborn meteor
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oh i'm sure

unborn meteor
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depends on what collisions you're doing i think

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,w mass of top top bottom hadron / mass of proton

fathom swallowBOT
unborn meteor
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,w (2 * (top quark mass) + bottom quark mass) / proton mass

fathom swallowBOT
unborn meteor
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,w muon mass / proton mass

fathom swallowBOT
unborn meteor
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,w tau mass / proton mass

fathom swallowBOT
unborn meteor
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nah

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nothing good here

true zinc
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imma step away to get some food

unborn meteor
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,w 1.306 QeV / 373.2

fathom swallowBOT
unborn meteor
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so thats about 3.5 ReV

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better

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but still very impractical

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what about less energy

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3.5 YeV for 1 kt of tnt

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3.5 ZeV for 1 t of tnt

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3.5 PeV for 1 kg of tnt

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hmm

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this isn't working

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wait

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could you make a gun

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that shoots high energy hadrons together

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to cause decent sized explosions

flat harbor
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a hydrogen bomb?

unborn meteor
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for that size you need quetta eV levels

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but for like

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hand grenades

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you only need like 10 TeV

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assuming ttb hadron

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ok what about this

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what if we somehow captured all that energy

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then we can

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shoot protons together

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the mass of the protons is converted into energy

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the gain of this is like 1.0000000000001x the energy you put in

zealous garden
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I'm slightly available

slim burrow
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Is the standard mathematical logic (zero, first and second order logic) a classical logic?

spring niche
slow jewel
trail granite
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helllo evry1

wooden falcon
quick beacon
quiet geode
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can someone talk boolean algebra with me

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isnt boolean algebra sorta qualitative analysis more than quantitative analysis

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is it in any way a truer reflection of operators in hand (qualitative)

quick beacon
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boolean algebra is just algebra on values which can only take two states.

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in other words, it's applying the ideas of "addition" and "multiplication" to true and false.

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@quiet geode

wooden falcon
alpine kindle
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you aren't usually doing addition

quick beacon
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that's why I put them in quotes

alpine kindle
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usually boolean algebra is AND and OR

quick beacon
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you're using and and or

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which and maps to multiplication and or maps to addition

alpine kindle
wooden falcon
alpine kindle
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the actual operation that works like addition is xor

quick beacon
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Yes, I know

quiet geode
wooden falcon
quiet geode
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its like say

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OR is the same as +

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you arent worried about the exact value

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1+3 = 4, 1+0 = 1

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it is just that addition 'increases'

tawdry pecan
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it can be looked at that way, but why would you

quiet geode
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because why not lol

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whats better than operators that are consistent across bases

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or atleast they are already consistent but only their qualitative part and not their quantitative part

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its sorta also like the idea of abstraction we used in relations and functions

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aRb, depending upon the exact nature (qualitative and quantitive) of R we will determine the order of a and b in a set

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when i break the abstraction with a>b or a<b i also can now determine the order of a and b in the set

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so by breaking abstraction of the relation (quantitative abstraction), i can determine the order of its operands in a set, similarly if i break the abstraction of a and b with constants, we can pay the relation back by letting it categorise in reflexive, transitive, symmetric or any other

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boolean algebra feel similar

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only difference is numbers with different bases are involved

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is this making any sense at this point?

quiet geode
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how to think clearly

quick beacon
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if we're using F_2 we can define AND as multiplication, XOR as addition, and OR as the sum of AND and XOR. i.e. OR: F_2xF_2 (a,b) -> F_2, a * b + a+b. We can test each possibility. (0, 0) -> 0 * 0 + 0 + 0 = 0, (1, 0) -> 1 * 0 + 1 + 0 = 1, (1, 1) -> 1 * 1 + 1 + 1 = 1

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and now it's just F_2 with some custom function names.

quiet geode
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what even

vivid maple
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1+1= 3

visual breach
quick beacon
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you know, that's a good observation. I think you're correct, but I've never considered it in that way

lucid plume
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Hello anyone here have any opinions on reasons to memorising axioms, corollaries, lemmas, proofs, conjectures, definitions, theorems, generalizations and extensions and etc.????

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If so, how would you do it?

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Im going to copypaste the same message here and there as i want opinions and matter of fact on whats a plausible solution

neat lintel
lucid plume
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spaced repetition

neat lintel
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did i say it wasn’t

lucid plume
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lo

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lol

neat lintel
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where

lucid plume
neat lintel
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if you say so

lucid plume
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So did you ever work with an SRS software?

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like anki

versed drum
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and get wolfram plugin in it

chilly maple
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gm

quick topaz
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gm

wooden falcon
# lucid plume Hello anyone here have any opinions on reasons to memorising axioms, corollaries...

Definitions you just have to know else you can’t parse anything else. I learn these by learning to understand what the definition really means, and motivating it through a healthy stock of examples, and also why it’s the definition we take rather than something else.

Proofs. I never try to memorize proofs. I learn techniques, I learn to understand the techniques and what’s generally useful, I remember the techniques by using it over and over for different proofs (this just happens naturally while doing math, I don’t even need to do separate practice for this).

Axioms to me are almost always just definitions.

Corollaries, lemmas, theorems always fall into the same bucket and are differentiated by vibes, they’re theorems: In general I don’t remember these and often go back to reference them as needed. Instead I have gotten good at recognizing the theorems that are really important to an area and just learn those theorems really well. Everything else I just learn to prove on the fly as needed or to try to generally piece together different results using as few necessary as possible. This way there’s very little to remember and what I do have to remember I use all the time which makes it even easier to remember.

neat lintel
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Hi all

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Got a great question for science lovers.

If i make a coil pancakes like make them to act 2 electromagnets

Can i make them to work like one inside other ?

Watch this video and asnwer. Me pls ping me.

https://youtu.be/AjUB-kYciDU?si=sTj8OOUXIxdlZeD4

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Like make one to work as a below electromagnet

And using 2nd above electromagnet to levitate the 2nd electromagnet.

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Like the voltage can be something that the electromagnet cant melt down.

Next step
Using super capacitors and capacitors make a pulses of high voltage which can make that electromaget device jump higer and stay in they air.
Might look something like vibrating in the ground if its wrong frequency.

If we use a frequency that can synchronize thats gonna work
"Anyi gravity" device.

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Thory.*

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Theoretically*

quiet geode
rare bobcat
carmine dirge
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ohh no, there was a mistake

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I really hope we can get that in time!

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fine

quaint cipher
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Just a math term question, what does [a fortiori] mean

gusty socket
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did you delete your message there?

quaint cipher
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yes

sly jungle
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Going thru 18.03 Diff Eqns course on mit ocw... and there's a separate pdf for every page. Is there a less annoying way to go thru the course?

gusty socket
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i remember having the same issue on ocw lol

sly jungle
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For a quiz, they have one pdf for the question, one pdf for the choices (it's a multiple choice question)... geez

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Did you survive this or give up? I'm trying to figure out if it's worth it 😄

gusty socket
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i was able to power through the annoyances, this was back on the old site and many years ago when i had more time though

sly jungle
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I guess I'll get working then. 😅

leaden torrent
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for every question (except the .tex file was shared across questions)

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i am assuming it was structured this way so that the same question could be given with different values to different students?

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to prevent cheating? idk though we only got one shared "instructor solutions" pdf

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maybe it was for reuse across semesters???

visual breach
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Perhaps problem bank kind of thing

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Laziest way to redo the exam with only some exchanges

acoustic crown
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ti-84 plus ce or ti-nspire non cas?

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ppl say nspire is hard to use but ill be happy to learn it if its reasonably better

woven rapids
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nspire

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it’s not hard to use

tawdry pecan
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get the cheaper one imo

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i find that it doesnt really matter what graphing calculator you have, as long as you know how to use it

woven rapids
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nspire helped me a lot tbh

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but I went from a TI-84 non CE

patent bone
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hlo

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everyone

neat lintel
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good

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what about u?

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browsing on my pc

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trying to find something to learn at maths

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where are u from?

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Iraq

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nice to meat u

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yeah

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I dont sure exacily how much

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but I can say I whatched more than 100 anime

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cool

rare bobcat
hasty plover
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Hello, I am comp sci and maths 3rd year at Uni and I am looking for people to learn discrete/pure/abstract maths with me, we can work on proofs together since a lot of these books don't have solutions and we could make our solutions, also this subject benefits a lot from learning it with a group to discuss things. I am currently reading Proofs: a Long-Form Mathematics Textbook by Jay Cummings. DM me if interested.

thorny orchid
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hi, is anyone familiar with the triangle inequality for the norms of the differences of matrices. I have a non-trivial problem I am trying to prove

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$| A-B|{F}\le | A-C |{F} + | C-B |_{F}$

fathom swallowBOT
sly jungle
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Doesn't a norm satisfy triangle inequality by definition?

thorny orchid
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constraints being that norm(A-C) = X and norm(C-B) = Y

sly jungle
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I don't get it... maybe I am missing something. But you want to prove the expression you posted above? which is the triangle inequality?

thorny orchid
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Sorry I haven't give the full idea I am considering. I have Hamiltonian that is formed by interaction coefficients eta_i which is a list of num_qubits - 1 numbers. The individual numbers have specific +/- locations that have been specifically chosen (for eigenvector decoding but not relevant here). In this example, H_1=A, H_3=C and we are trying to find H_2 such that it simultaneously satisfies norm(H_1-H_2) = X and norm(H_2-H_3) = Y for fixed X and Y. Essentially, H_1 and H_3 are formed by eta_i coefficients that are different in magnitude but have the same positivity/negativity. We need to choose some eta_i coefficients for H_2 that ALSO obey the positivity/negativity of H_1 and H_3.

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My dilemma is, are we restricted in the search space for H_2 because of the sign constraint? Or because we can vary both norm(H_1-H_2) and norm(H_2-H_3) continuoulsy individually by just changing the magntiude of the H_2 eta_i coefficients, then there is no restriction?

visual breach
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So your "norm" does not satisfy triangle inequality?

thorny orchid
visual breach
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Ahh, I see, so deciding if triangle inequality is respected

thorny orchid
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yes, given this sign constraint

visual breach
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I think you should ask in more specitic channel. Hmm

thorny orchid
eternal crow
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@austere hound so are u a jew?

hardy iron
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Kodix I didn’t expect your message like that

eternal crow
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Also he asked me first. Now I'm asking him back

carmine dirge
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ohh my dears

eternal crow
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I love jews don't get me wrong

tidal belfry
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hi

eternal crow
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Hi

austere hound
eternal crow
lime parcel
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hi

eternal crow
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Hi

neat lintel
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Hi

uneven herald
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Hi?

fresh comet
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hi

uneven herald
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Hi

neat lintel
#

I feel bad when I see other people talk about topics in math I know much less about. Since I'm so slow at learning, feels unreachable for me to reach that level

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Do other people feel same way?

neat lintel
fresh comet
#

but I’ve gotten better at managing it over time

gritty crater
fresh comet
#

this is something I’ve struggled with for a long time in general (not just math)

neat lintel
gusty socket
# neat lintel Do other people feel same way?

yes, but i try to follow my own advice that i say to people, which is to realize that everyone is somewhere, and it's okay to just stop and appreciate the things that you find beautiful right now without having to "reach a level"

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and that's really what math is about (you will get better just by talking about the things you find meaningful in math)

fresh comet
neat lintel
#

For example, I've heard about stuff like manifolds admitting multiple smooth structures, and that sounds quite interesting. But then to do something as basic as proving the stereographic projections of S^n give a smooth atlas it took me like 30 minutes and I kept making mistakes

jagged forge
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i have limited time these days and i’m not a mathematician so i don’t worry about knowing everything

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but i do end up feeling like an awkward bystander in many discussions

wooden falcon
neat lintel
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I should probably stop feeling that way too, as it is likely a disadvantage

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I should use my energy to learn more math, not to feel bad about knowing too little math

wooden falcon
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Yeah we have limited time and can’t learn everything. Best to just be happy with what we can learn.

fresh comet
wooden falcon
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Imo it’s really cool we get to experience it at all. So much of this math just didn’t exist last century.

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(or if it did, not nearly in as elegant of a form as today)

thick yacht
wooden falcon
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Yes

neat lintel
#

sometimes I'm open about how I feel about myself and the same people keep reassuring that I'm not so bad (math people are super supportive) which actually helps a bit

maiden girder
fresh comet
#

there's just too much mathematics out there to know it all

jagged forge
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i accept that i will probably never know what stacks are

fresh comet
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you have to accept that there will always be some parts of it you will never know about

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this is not to discourage you

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it's just how math is in this century

fresh comet
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hmm

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do you expect to live forever? pandathink

haughty panther
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since you already know some areas of math well it means that you are capable of learning the ones that interest you, even if it takes some time
just enjoy the process

neat lintel
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I'm not thinking of it as competing with others but as the cool things I hear about and would like to work with seem so far away

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And if I don't work more efficiently I may never reach them

neat lintel
haughty panther
neat lintel
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So far I haven't reached almost anything

haughty panther
#

giving up on goals and dreams is painful but sometimes necessary
though i might be biased as i have already given up on all of them 😅

haughty panther
neat lintel
haughty panther
vast wraith
#

legend

cinder zephyr
vast wraith
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if there is one thing i may brag about, it is my ability to find good books mwahahaha

brittle socket
#

I think that's a nice way to learn

dusky frost
brittle socket
#

You can improve your understanding by messing around with stuff

vast wraith
dusky frost
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i probably wont find it anywhere here though which kinda sucks

vast wraith
#

no access to any uni library?

dusky frost
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they only keep academic books really, i doubt they would have this, but i will check

brittle socket
brittle socket
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"its none of your business" lmao what a chad

vast wraith
brittle socket
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I see

vast wraith
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ahaha

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What I did not learn was how to study, or, for that matter, what studying meant. I was just barely smart enough to know that it did not mean memorizing—but I did think that to have learned something meant mainly to remember it.

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Most of the content of my first-year mathematics courses is no longer taught in respectable universities; a part of it is relegated to high-schools and the rest is forgotten. Is that good? I don’t know, I really don’t.

jaunty ibex
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I can

vast wraith
potent nacelle
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find them online

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facebook marketplace also works, some people give away old used books

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nice people in my area

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oh

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🫢

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openstax got some

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nice

vast wraith
#

that’s pretty cheap by academic book standards

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lovely

potent nacelle
ocean harbor
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be active

potent nacelle
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huh

ocean harbor
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i have emeritus cuz i lost very active

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just talk around and you'll get it

neat lintel
#

it's real that a big part of people who reach Phd level then leave academia due to difficulties in finding a job?
(which pays to live)

inland patio
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easy

neat lintel
#

...

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awa

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Can logn be any number....

brittle socket
#

@gusty socket You're a mod now? Smh.

gusty socket
#

WHAT

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how

brittle socket
#

I am dissmayed

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Wait what you didn't know either?

fresh comet
brittle socket
#

He has graduated from being piss and went onto become a part of the sky

neat lintel
sonic sentinel
#

i just realized rock paper scissors has more than one nash equilibrium

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randomly picking between paper and scissors with 50/50 probability can't be beat

versed agate
#

doesn't that lose to always scissors?

sonic sentinel
#

oh shit you're right

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bruh

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bruh i need to get more sleep

icy locust
#

doesn't that lose to energy drinks?

vast wraith
tawdry pecan
true zinc
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<@&268886789983436800> spammer

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thanks hayley

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ikr

wheat raft
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by Misner, Wheeler, Thorne.

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amazing book

north topaz
sonic sentinel
#

theoretical RPS

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if you're leaking information, have limited computation, and can't pick options with uniform probability then yeah the game is gonna become complicated

digital hill
#

a bit embarassed to ask but how do i start off with studying math? like at this point i've realised i'm just a dumbass who can't understand all this jargon and i don't rlly get all the material i've learned from school intuitively

gusty socket
# digital hill a bit embarassed to ask but how do i start off with studying math? like at this ...

https://www.khanacademy.org is what i usually recommend, don’t worry about the “grade level”, just start where you’re comfortable.

Khan Academy

Learn for free about math, art, computer programming, economics, physics, chemistry, biology, medicine, finance, history, and more. Khan Academy is a nonprofit with the mission of providing a free, world-class education for anyone, anywhere.

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and ask a bajillion questions because part of learning is interacting with people

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unless you want stuff beyond calculus

digital hill
gusty socket
gusty socket
digital hill
gusty socket
gusty socket
fresh comet
#

you're capable, all you need to do is practice a lot

digital hill
fresh comet
#

and the best way to practice is to do problems

digital hill
fresh comet
#

Khan Academy itself should have many problems

digital hill
#

nvm i'll try getting a grasp of stuff first bfr asking again 😭

fresh comet
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no, you should use this discord server to ask for help

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we do not care and do not judge people for their background in math

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this is a safe space

neat lintel
#

safe space

fresh comet
#

it should be a safe space for all

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if something is making you feel very uncomfortable, you can DM @polar panther if you're not in a hurry or ping mods if you are

rich dock
#

the set {9/8, 3/4, 1/2, 1/3, 2/9, …. } what is the formula to get the next succeeding numbers

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anyone goated can help

fresh comet
neat lintel
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holy fuck i was reading the first one as 8/9 for some reason and i got so confused

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a_n = (2/3)^(n-1) * 9/8

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thats your formular

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your secret formular

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but its not secret because

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i just said it

rich dock
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wow ur the goat thanks

vast wraith
#

[R.L. Moore] was teaching a class in which several of the students were obnoxious and unruly. So one day he walked into the lecture hall, opened his briefcase, took out a pistol, set it on the table in front of him, and then began to lecture as usual. He had no further trouble with the rowdy students.

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america moment 😭

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probably not true though

ocean harbor
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that's what I did

light needle
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when he says students were obnoxious and unruly

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he probably had some racismi n that

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moore is a well known pos and racist

old oak
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Studying while Black

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That said, whomst among us hasn't fantasised about murdering their students at one time or another

old oak
fresh comet
neat lintel
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Hi

fresh comet
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hi