serious-discussion

[rocky shuttle]

It does nothing, though

[short shard]

It makes me happy

And that's enough for me

[latent edge]

[ocean harbor]

geometry dash 🗣️

[short shard]

Gommy dahs

[latent edge]

https://tenor.com/view/dashspider-dash-geometrydash-geometry-dash-colon-gif-6183807318430948778

[short shard]

What role do I need to be able to post pictures here

I am very trustworthy

[short shard]

Ok now that I sent this this sounds extremely untrustworthy

[north topaz]

good q

I'm not sure but I think it's any coloured role

so the easiest one to get would be the active role, there's ofc the very active role too

if you get that last one you'd be terminally online here lol

don't end up like us pls

otherwise anyone can post in #chill

we just had a lot of trolls posting in the main two channels so that's why the rule was implemented

[short shard]

Oke thanks I'll try being more active then lol

[north topaz]

be careful what you wish for though

good luck with that ig

[short shard]

I'm terminally online on other servers I might as well be on here

[north topaz]

gg

[north topaz]

hope you learn some maths while you're at it then

[short shard]

That would be great

[vernal token]

[fresh comet]

hello Kepe

[fresh comet]

my definition of terminally online is me alone

[vernal token]

Hi higher!

[fresh comet]

everyone else is not terminally online when compared to me

[fresh comet]

is the linear algebra linear algebraing?

[vernal token]

of course

[fresh comet]

[vernal token]

What about you, what courses are you taking now?

[fresh comet]

none, I'm on actual break

[vernal token]

Ah

[fresh comet]

learning point set

[vernal token]

I will take point set after my Abitur

[fresh comet]

good luck!

[vernal token]

Is that actually a seperate course?

[latent edge]

Ah Abitur

German

Still way better than here

[fresh comet]

Abitur is scary

[short shard]

Not in Germany I think

[vernal token]

Or could you also jump into AT right away and learn point set in the first 20 pages or so

[short shard]

It's in anal II

[latent edge]

You could jump right away to AT

[vernal token]

sounds good

[fresh comet]

the point set course here does AT for the last third or so

but you can probably get away with less

[short shard]

You don't need too much topology for AT

[fresh comet]

tbh

mhm

[short shard]

Or algebra for that matter

[vernal token]

You also know AT?

[latent edge]

All what u are doing is algebra

[short shard]

A bit

From Hatcher

[vernal token]

How did you have the time to learn all these

[fresh comet]

how much point set do I need for DG though

[short shard]

I don't do anything else

I have no life

[latent edge]

Depends on ur requirements

[vernal token]

For how long have you been doing this?

[latent edge]

What do u want to do with DG eventually

[fresh comet]

I have no idea lmao

too far ahead of me for me to think

[latent edge]

Do u happen to know analytic number theory?

[short shard]

I started on 1 January 19pm 2023

[vernal token]

I need the exact minute please

[short shard]

Idk any number theory

[short shard]

Wait I can give you that

[latent edge]

Then I have no life. Not you

[vernal token]

Deltoid you're also a high schooler right?

[short shard]

Number theory seems cool as fuck but most books on it start out boring

I just want to jump to the fun stuff

[latent edge]

I mean that's the same deal with something cool like algebraic geometry

[fresh comet]

Deltoid finished his freshman year

[vernal token]

Ah

[short shard]

True tbh

[fresh comet]

but he was doing AnaNT in hs too

[short shard]

But like

[fresh comet]

[short shard]

Alggeo is less so

[vernal token]

Yeah Deltoid is the ANT guy

[short shard]

Because you need algebra so you're forced to learn it regardless of what you want

[fresh comet]

who is the other ANT person

[latent edge]

Same with number theory

[fresh comet]

I don't know who does AlgNT here, now that I think about it

I need to check #advanced-number-theory more ig

[short shard]

What but he has postgrad as a role

[white temple]

door-to-door mormons but it's just deltoid with a copy of Apostol instead of a bible

[latent edge]

You are forced to learn modular arithmetic, fermat theorems, Euler shenanigans etc

[vernal token]

Yeah one can still get it

[short shard]

I count that as algebra

[vernal token]

But yeah, he isn't a high schooler

[latent edge]

The majority of people do algNT. I'm more of an outcast

[fresh comet]

some high schoolers have the postgrad role

[latent edge]

There is CV who does AnalNT

[fresh comet]

I see. that makes sense I guess

[vernal token]

illuminator comes to mind

Sadly he left

Also Andrei

[fresh comet]

illum is on other servers still

[vernal token]

Doing research while in high school

[short shard]

Damn I have no idea who all these people are

Y'all need a lore channel

[latent edge]

Yeah it's a thing because algNT is more common to be taught in uni than analNT (that's not the case in my uni at all they teach neither)

[short shard]

My main server has one

[fresh comet]

is that so?

[latent edge]

Yea

[fresh comet]

we have a course for both here, but I don't know which one gets more attention

they're offered in alternating years iirc

he's still around

I saw him 2 days ago

could be, yeah

[short shard]

💀

I should try that

🤯

[short shard]

31 December 2022 19pm

I got that wrong

[short shard]

That was when I tried learning vector calculus with absolutely no knowledge of actual calculus and failed miserably

When I finally finished I googled "what comes after vector calculus" and some guy on quora said differential geometry

💀

[north topaz]

.......

don't trust Quora mna

[short shard]

I tried learning that and realized I should probably do analysis because differential geometry does NOT come after calculus

And that's how I got into math

[fresh comet]

morally correct though

[short shard]

Average stack exchange answer

[fresh comet]

[vernal token]

Didn't you have some calculus at HS at that time?

[short shard]

Only derivatives at that time

And I also kinda knew what integrals were

Before that I watched random math videos on YouTube but I didn't know what actual math was like

@vernal token how did you get into math

[jaunty ibex]

@latent edge how did you get into math

[vernal token]

I got interested in it at around 9th grade, then I started loving it

I should've started doing uni stuff earlier..

[short shard]

What made you finally decide you wanted to do a Frühstudium

[vernal token]

I didn't know about it, my Schulleiter suggested it to me

[vernal token]

What about you?

[short shard]

I used to talk to someone and she told me that a guy she knew did it in physics

So it though I should do it too

That was during the summer holidays last year right before the thing started

I actually handed in my CV thingy too late

[vernal token]

I sent in my application really late because my school took very long to write the Empfehlungsschreiben, give me the permission and everything

I sent it in with Deutsche Post but apparently it didn't arrive and there were only two days left

[short shard]

My math teacher went to my school during the holidays to get me the Empfehlungsschreiben 💀

[vernal token]

Luckily what I sent in was a copy so I had the original

I had to go there, on a Saturday

There was only someone from the Prüfungsausschuss

But he took it

[vernal token]

Woah

[short shard]

Do you actually live close to the university

As in do you know any of the others

[vernal token]

Not really, around 30km from it

[vernal token]

I don't know anyone from our course

[short shard]

Because Florian was really active in the beginning but idk where he is now

Pretty weird

[vernal token]

Yeah, he also used to write his stuff up in LaTeX

[vernal token]

Well probably he is doing schriftliches Abitur now

So he doesn't have time

[short shard]

Makes sense ig

What are your mündliche Prüfungen in

What are your mündliche Prüfungen in

[vernal token]

German and Ethik

[short shard]

What are your mündliche Prüfungen in

[vernal token]

Wby?

[short shard]

Same 💀🤯

[vernal token]

Why are basically all our courses the same

Exact LKs

Exact mündliche Prüfungen

[short shard]

German because I have no choice and Ethik because I can just yap

[vernal token]

Exactly

[vernal token]

Do you care about your other subjects, other than maths and physics?

I don't really

[short shard]

I don't study for school

It doesn't matter

There is no NC

Like my grades are still pretty good but in the end it doesn't matter

[vernal token]

Yeah I'm thinking the same but who knows, maybe for some more prestigious unis like Bonn there will be one?

[short shard]

At least for the one I want to go to there isn't

[short shard]

I say this but I still feel shit when I actually do have a bad grade

[vernal token]

I'd feel very bad if I didn't have a good grade in maths or physics, but I really don't care about all the other subjects

[short shard]

Well I mean we get a 15€ book voucher if we do good in school so ig there is one advantage

[vernal token]

We don't

[vernal token]

If you get this Preis der deutschen Mathematikervereinigung you get some book

But that'll be first-semester stuff

[short shard]

Apparently other schools give you even more

[vernal token]

Also you get to be member of the deutsche Mathematikervereinigung for one year

But idk why that's good

(afterwards you have to pay )

[short shard]

That would've been my next question

I don't go outside so I don't think being a member of a Mathematikvereinigung would benefit me in any way lol

[vernal token]

I don't either

Do you do any competition math?

[short shard]

Not really

I did a competition a month ago

But that was the only one I ever did

[vernal token]

I don't either but my school needed someone to go to the Mathe-Cup

[short shard]

Because my teacher asked me to

[vernal token]

So of course, thinking competition math = math they sent me

[short shard]

Hehe that's what I always say

You have to know a bunch of random identities for compmath

[vernal token]

We need teams of 4, now I'm in a team of two with another guy

[short shard]

I did some olympiad exercises for the entrance exam to our university

German olympiads were really helpful

[vernal token]

Which ones do you mean?

[short shard]

And also Oxford MAT admissions tests

[short shard]

Trig identities mostly

[vernal token]

Ah

[short shard]

I studied for a whole month for the admissions test and still only got 17/24 in the end

That one dumb problem

That drawing problem

[short shard]

You know which one I mean?

[vernal token]

The one with the square?

[short shard]

Ye

I wasted so much time on that

[vernal token]

Something with fitting something into a square

[short shard]

Yeah

[vernal token]

There was a girl in front of me who cut something out and reconstructed it

[short shard]

Did you get that one

Bruh

[vernal token]

Uh, I don't remember anymore, I think no

[vernal token]

Did you?

I think I thought it was impossible to fit it in

But it was possible

[short shard]

Yeah I said it was impossible

I got it wrong

[vernal token]

Same

[vernal token]

But yeah, after all comp math is very different from real math so really doing it isn't a very good time investment I think

Maybe it helps with problem-solving though but you get that when doing "real" math problems too

[short shard]

Yeah exactly

And real math actually helps you get used to new concepts

Olympiad math is always the same

(this is my excuse for being bad at olympiads)

[vernal token]

I still have to finish my physics GFS, I will do that on the last school day before the Ausflugstag

It's 42 slides currently

[short shard]

💀

Whar

Mine was 13

But it was VERY dense

[short shard]

My math one was 30 I think

[vernal token]

I guess my font is big and stuff

You do a GFS in maths?

Why?

[short shard]

How long is that going to take to present 💀

[vernal token]

I'll probably get it done in 90 minutes

[short shard]

I only do GFS in subjects I'm good in. That way I don't have to learn anything new

[short shard]

[vernal token]

I do one in the subjects I'm not so good in but also not completely shit; otherwise I'll have no motivation of doing it

physics is an exception, I have 15 points but still do one in it

[short shard]

I ended my integrals presentation with "Riemann integrals are shit btw. Lebesgue better" 💀

Wait I still have my Ausarbeitung I can send it to you

[vernal token]

Sure

[short shard]

In dms though I don't want to doxx myself

[vernal token]

yeah

[muted stirrup]

what's the utility of functional equations

[short shard]

Math olympiads

[muted stirrup]

that's all?

i just learned

about this

[short shard]

Your better off learning ring theory

Algebra>>>analysis

[muted stirrup]

does algebra include ring theory

[rocky shuttle]

algebra + analysis > max{algebra, analysis}

[fresh comet]

[muted stirrup]

i should learn both?

[uneven tinsel]

Analgebralysis

[rocky shuttle]

imo, yes, if it's basic undergrad algebra and analysis

[muted stirrup]

i thought algebra was taught only in middle school and thats it

i thought we learn cal in college

[rocky shuttle]

I'm talking about basic abstract algebra

[muted stirrup]

oh

ok

i haven't learned that

but is it hard

[fresh comet]

all math is easy

[muted stirrup]

why do they have to come up with a bunch of math branches like this

[rocky shuttle]

everything is hard if you haven't learned it

[muted stirrup]

i believe it

[fresh comet]

don't believe everything you see on the internet...

what Zan said is correct

everything is hard when you've never seen it before

[uneven tinsel]

Because they wanted to sell more books

[muted stirrup]

i think believe it is easy then it will be

[muted stirrup]

oh

no the idea was developed a long time ago

[fresh comet]

some confidence is good!

[muted stirrup]

yeah

and my bf is a physicist too

so he can help me

do u guys have a roadmap for imo

from easy to hard

[fresh comet]

for IMO, the competition?

[muted stirrup]

yeah

[fresh comet]

no, unfortunately

[muted stirrup]

i wanna broaden my mind

what

[fresh comet]

I don't do any competitive math

[rocky shuttle]

based

[muted stirrup]

what's the free resouces to train

[fresh comet]

competitive math is quite different from much of math

[muted stirrup]

bro it's higher level math man

for the superior

for the talented

[fresh comet]

what?

[short shard]

There's also a structure called an algebra. Mathematicians really don't like using new words

[muted stirrup]

for the divinely blessed

[fresh comet]

but is it higher! level math?

[muted stirrup]

ofc

it's for the future visionary of the world

[rocky shuttle]

higher!

[short shard]

MAT Oxford entrance exams are pretty useful

[fresh comet]

higher!

[muted stirrup]

ok

[fresh comet]

competition math is just not for me

[muted stirrup]

ok any other resources

[fresh comet]

I don't find it really interesting

[short shard]

Mind your decisions on YouTube

[short shard]

That's the name

[muted stirrup]

i want a hardcore book

[short shard]

Same

[short shard]

I don't have any of those sorry

[rocky shuttle]

same, I did it a lot when I was in school but it was not really interesting to me

[muted stirrup]

youtube is the hotbed of deception and consolation

[fresh comet]

depending on what you're looking for, the AoPS books might be good

[muted stirrup]

just say that u dont wanna share it to people

maybe that's your secret sauce

to math superiority

[fresh comet]

I did absolutely zero competition math or normal math in hs

[short shard]

You got me

[fresh comet]

only got into "real" math at the very end of hs

[muted stirrup]

just share it dude

we really need it

[fresh comet]

oh, how I wish I got in faster

[muted stirrup]

help the unfortunate

[rocky shuttle]

that's sooner than me

[short shard]

I did it once to practice for my university's entrance exam

[muted stirrup]

i will hook u up with my talented romantic physicist

[rocky shuttle]

same buddy, same

[fresh comet]

https://tenor.com/view/moumik-hug-hug-taptap-gif-12415073493272629445

[short shard]

You don't know how real you are for this

[rocky shuttle]

wdym

[short shard]

I mean that they are so real for this

[rocky shuttle]

:saul:

[short shard]

[muted stirrup]

hey guys i wonder if we can achieve perfect randomness

that would catalyze for a perfect security machine innit

[fading zealot]

Classical computers follow finite instructions so no; Quantum computers yes

[neat lintel]

bazinga

[dense belfry]

Bazinga

Also if you can achieve perfect randomness on a quantum computer shouldn't you be able to on a classical as well since you can simulate a quantum computer on a classical (albeit at a loss of speed)?

[solar hawk]

O _ O

[raven plaza]

Aren't there uncomputable sequences

Which can be output by a quantum computer

[dense belfry]

No, quantum and classical computers can compute exactly the same sets

[raven plaza]

Computation is not random generation tho?

[dense belfry]

I'm unsure what framework people use to talk about random generation here tbh

[short shard]

Wdym did you switch majors?

[raven plaza]

Can you have a quantum program that randomly spits out an infinite sequence of 0s and 1s

If so then the infinite sequence is uncomputable with probability 1 right

[dense belfry]

So there are a bunch of randomness hierarchies in computability theory which depend on asymptotic initial segment Kolmogorov complexity of an infinite binary string (there is a constant c so that the Kolmogorov complexity of all initial segments is less than c away from the maximum Kolmogorov complexity), idk if you can use a bounded state quantum computer to achieve randomness in this sense

[rocky shuttle]

I was more into physics and computer science when I graduated from school and only saw math as a tool (not really interested in it as a subject in itself). I did a math major only because of a scholarship (that's specific to math) and end up loving it after the first year of my studies.

[fresh comet]

[rocky shuttle]

I'm being judged by higher!

[fresh comet]

nono

I myself was much more into physics a year ago than now, but I took a risk by doing a bunch of math I thought I might as well try out

and I ended up liking math a lot

lol

I've never been too much into CSy stuff though

[short shard]

I got into math pretty early but I wouldn't count it as math because it was mostly popsci bullshit

And I've never really gotten into CS but I tried out Java once

[fresh comet]

my initial assumption would be that I would end up disliking math or finding it too challenging lol

and then return to physics

[short shard]

That's why I usually say I only got into math 1.5 years ago

[fresh comet]

but this never happened

so here I am

[short shard]

Based

[tawdry spindle]

CS is fancy math

All else is side effects

[short shard]

Applications are only good if they're to math

[gusty socket]

gm

[fresh comet]

morning smay

[short shard]

It's literally 10pm

[gusty socket]

so true, and since your experiences are universal, it must be that time for me too

[short shard]

Exactly

Glad you understand

[fresh comet]

well, it still isn't the morning morning for you

but yes

,ti smayday

[gusty socket]

LMAO

[fathom swallow]

The current time for smayday is 04:16 PM (EDT) on Sun, 14/07/2024, the same as higher___!

[fresh comet]

[gusty socket]

i jsut woke up

[fresh comet]

best sleep schedule I've ever seen

[short shard]

💀

[fresh comet]

💯/10

[rocky shuttle]

UGT

[fresh comet]

undergrad time

[rocky shuttle]

Umean Gvalue Theorem

[short shard]

Under Grad Textsinmathemathematics

[rocky shuttle]

what kind of physics do you like?

[fresh comet]

GR, classical mechanics

geometry related stuff lmao

this is why my main mathematical interests lie in DG lol

these were my roots

[rocky shuttle]

same, same

[rocky shuttle]

have you done some classical mechanics?

[fresh comet]

no Lagrangians yet

next year!

[rocky shuttle]

I read Goldstein for classical mechanics

[fresh comet]

Goldstein

I was thinking either that, or L&L

maybe Arnold too...

[flat cloud]

is it true that the first derivative of an injective function will never be negative? assuming my function goes upwards

I want to see if I understood the concepts properly

[short shard]

Yeah if the derivative changes its sign then it's not injective

[flat cloud]

but if the function converges even a little then that will show as negative in its second derivative no?

or rather than converge, just slows down for a moment

[short shard]

The second derivative shows you how much a function curves

But I don't think you can say anything about injectivity from that

[flat harbor]

u do NOT need to read big chonky grad mech books

[fresh comet]

L&L isn't chonky though

it's like

200 pages

[flat harbor]

the only thing that they offer is a depth in technicality

[gusty socket]

hi blo

[flat harbor]

the main ideas in cmech can be exposed in 10

helohelo smay

[uneven tinsel]

[mint raven]

Is there anything that you can measure that is not some amount(s) of: Angle, Electric Charge, Length, Mass, Probability, Temperature, Time

[solid snow]

Force

are you restricting this to a physics context?

because what you've described are what the SI units measure, their purpose being the building block of other measurement

[uneven tinsel]

Money

[jagged forge]

good example

[surreal sapphire]

human happiness

[fresh comet]

my hopes and dreams

[craggy parcel]

i mean

population?

[old oak]

Population is unitless, as are angles, therefore we measure population in radians.

[fresh comet]

what do we measure my hopes and dreams in?

[old oak]

Whatever you want!

[rocky shuttle]

height

[fresh comet]

[rocky shuttle]

still not asleep ic

[fresh comet]

[rocky shuttle]

[muted stirrup]

your boyfriends

[vast wraith]

girl…

[thorn willow]

🙂

[worldly wave]

hello

[jagged forge]

is your boyfriend as annoying as you are

[chilly maple]

hello

[uneven tinsel]

Hello

[muted stirrup]

excuse me

i have a boyfriend

stop trying to grab my attention

omg

[neat lintel]

Me too!

[muted stirrup]

why u attention seeking so much

omg

i said i have a boyfriend

[neat lintel]

Me too!

[pulsar finch]

which kind of geometry is the non euclidian one

i thought it was the only type of geometry

[neat lintel]

It’s called ‘non Euclidean geometry’

[jagged forge]

there's hyperbolic geometry

and uhh

[vast wraith]

“non-euclidean geometry” is typically not used to refer to a geometry, but a type of geometry, of which there are multiple

[jagged forge]

whatever the opposite of that is

[neat lintel]

Spherical geometry

[jagged forge]

elliptic geometry?

[vast wraith]

mhm

[neat lintel]

Oh

[vast wraith]

elliptic and spherical are not quite the same, but i’ve never come across an instance where i’ve had to consider the elliptic kind

so i just think of the non-euclidean geometries as hyperbolic or spherical

[neat lintel]

I see

[jagged forge]

apparently the real projective plane is elliptic

which makes sense, it's a sphere with antipodal points identified

[pulsar finch]

is it worth investing time in non euclidian geo in the sense that does it come up often or?

elliptic geometry seems a bit specific

[vast wraith]

as in PR2 ?

[jagged forge]

yeah

[vast wraith]

whew

i have somehow completely avoided projective geom

[neat lintel]

Are you working with those stuff?

[vast wraith]

but i know PC has spherical geometry

[neat lintel]

I used to do IOAA so I had to study spherical geometry

[vast wraith]

what’s ioaa

[vast wraith]

depends on what you’re doing / is interested in

[rapid yew]

hi

[vast wraith]

or, it’s certainly possible to study geometry in its own right, though that is rather rare nowadays

[vast wraith]

hi welcome to the best channel

[rapid yew]

nice to meet u

im looking forward to find friends who'll help me with maths

[uneven tinsel]

[drowsy silo]

https://youtube.com/shorts/_tyESgdzhps?si=1vQ7Tk7QqDFxPv9s

[neat lintel]

I’d say no, unless you either (a) are intrinsically interested in it or (b) need it for some specific thing you’re studying (e.g. algebraic geometry). In the latter case, it’ll probably be introduced in whatever you’re reading for that subject

[uneven tinsel]

I'd say yes if there is way there is will

[long pumice]

There seems to be an 1000 - 1500 years oversight at finding the basic geometrical design of telescopes

I tried to post to /r/math but the reddit I can access became a very blocked place lately

"Magnifying lenses are known since antiquity. The first practical telescope seems to have been invented, and the conceptual ideea discovered, in late renaissance, some years before the formalization of the law of refraction, and the development of geometrical optics mathematical area."

"It feels like missing for a very long time something relatively obvious if focusing with a scientific or engineering approach on lenses and image magnification subject. Eery!"

[wide canopy]

Hello. Has anyone done any of the problems from the mathematical reflection journal? Here is the link of the problems: https://www.awesomemath.org/wp-pdf-files/math-reflections/mr-2024-03/mr_3_2024_problems_2.pdf. I would really appreciate if one of you guys have solved or could solve one of the problems for me.

[long pumice]

There is some relative feel in some high end technology border research contexts of the math person being more of a relative artist of pretty formulas for kids, ala KFG Gauss kid profile looks. KFG has a suspicious rhyme with the ZFC foundations.

The fishy funny looks of the mathematician of a more loose personality type in the high end technological development team, while mathematics is a preached rigor model.

Like mathematics relatively loose thing, mind high end high stakes engineering border research for upmost scientific model development rigurosity.

They also make the fine complex technological border tools for scientists to discover with.

https://old.reddit.com/r/math/comments/1e3veam/there_seems_to_be_an_1000_1500_years_oversight_at/

[neat lintel]

WHAT IS BRO SAYING

[long pumice]

who is bro?

mathematics today seems to still have some loose foundational problem noticed since the Hilbert's program and Godel's incompleteness

the problem also seems to confirm while trying to prove automatically with computers, where a different set of axiomatic foundations seem to work better than ZFC

ZFC seems to be preferred for friendliness to the historical mathematics and its kind of artistic sides or faces

[uneven tinsel]

What do you want

[long pumice]

here and in the reddit link I want to discuss this and related matters

[uneven tinsel]

Okay it's too complicated for me

[vast wraith]

what foundational problems

[old oak]

I mean, the question of whether 0.9999....=1 is still not settled

[fresh comet]

[long pumice]

properly relating to Godel's incompleteness problem area for highest reliability complex proofs

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermat's_Last_Theorem#Wiles's_general_proof

Wiles's proof of Fermat's last theorem (also notice the names poetry, "we les", "fermer - last") is suspicious of higher risk of rigorously connecting to trusted axiomatic foundations in a very complex long proof

[vast wraith]

[long pumice]

does nature respect the parallel postulate? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parallel_postulate

wile's proof seems harder to trust, maybe it could be machine checked like compiling a computer program, and in computer math check's area I've noticed without digging in that ZFC is practically problematic and they prefer a different axiomatic base

[vast wraith]

you have a most curious mix of some reasonable insight and at the same time highly cranky language and topics

go on go on what do you know about ZFC being "practically problematic" and "a different axiomatic base"

[old oak]

I suspect English isn't their native language and they have difficulty putting their point across because of that

[vast wraith]

hmm

[uneven tinsel]

[vast wraith]

girls

try this game, so fun https://www.whatbeatsrock.com/

though unfortunatrly ai does not understand the wonder of vegetable boats

buying tomatoes from the vegetable boat 😵 arriving in venice 🤜 a sailing boat 🤜 staring at the ceiling 🤜 time passes like a lightning flash 🤜 they’re doing a baroque opera next door! 🤜 the library is closed 🤜 good company to the library 🤜 a good cup of coffee 🤜 going back to sleep 🤜 exhaustion 🤜 fortitude 🤜 disaster 🤜 having a great day 🤜 waking up well rested 🤜 dreaming 🤜 sleeping 🤜 yielding 🤜 enraged women (followers of bacchus) 🤜 orpheus with his lyre 🤜 rock

[fresh comet]

this is so funny LOL

[gusty socket]

buying tomatoes from the vegetable boat 😵 arriving in venice 🤜 a sailing boat 🤜 staring at the ceiling 🤜 time passes like a lightning flash 🤜 they’re doing a baroque opera next door! 🤜 the library is closed 🤜 good company to the library 🤜 a good cup of coffee 🤜 going back to sleep 🤜 exhaustion 🤜 fortitude 🤜 disaster 🤜 having a great day 🤜 waking up well rested 🤜 dreaming 🤜 sleeping 🤜 yielding 🤜 enraged women (followers of bacchus) 🤜 orpheus with his lyre 🤜 rock

[vast wraith]

ai also has no appreciation for colours smh

a yellowish pink 😵 especially when dreaming 🤜 sleeping is also pretty nice 🤜 until you get distracted by its history 🤜 pure mathematics is where it's at 🤜 no one does musicology anyways 🤜 forgetting to mention it on your musicology exam 🤜 machaut's messe de notre dame 🤜 the grain of time 🤜 zeus 🤜 patience 🤜 impatience 🤜 the inquisition 🤜 fools 🤜 the delphic oracle 🤜 rock

[uneven tinsel]

[flat harbor]

babe what does this mean

[vocal vessel]

49 so far

[vast wraith]

idk i've repressed everything my psych told me

[flat harbor]

let them opem

[flat harbor]

im here

fucking rigged

[vast wraith]

[vocal vessel]

lol

Delicious roasted babies

[vocal vessel]

Died at 60

[uneven tinsel]

Physics does not beat math

[vast wraith]

physics beats rock, and in this game maths does not beat physics but mathematics does, lol

[uneven tinsel]

[alpine kindle]

knowledge 😵 experience 🤜 training 🤜 teachers 🤜 michael gove 🤜 education 🤜 propaganda 🤜 truth 🤜 common sense 🤜 nigel farage 🤜 the eu 🤜 brexit 🤜 david cameron 🤜 labour 🤜 conservatives 🤜 welfare 🤜 antidepressants 🤜 sadness 🤜 happiness 🤜 money 🤜 smart work 🤜 hard work 🤜 millenial 🤜 avocado 🤜 lizard 🤜 spock 🤜 scissors 🤜 paper 🤜 rock

only 27

sad

[muted stirrup]

excuse me

i have a boyfriend

[uneven tinsel]

Must be a king

[flat harbor]

im so bad at this

[vast wraith]

dramatic

[vast wraith]

[vocal cypress]

wot

haha

[vast wraith]

bit too brutal tbh

[vocal cypress]

are u doing VET

CET

[vast wraith]

what

no idea what that is

[vocal cypress]

MY bad

btw what you do rodbet

idk what's your name sorry

[vast wraith]

sleep

[vocal cypress]

bro is me fr

[vocal cypress]

can you help me in maths?

[muted stirrup]

excuse me no one can crush me except my bf

[flat harbor]

ok i dont get this one

[fresh comet]

LMAO

where do you even come up with some of these

I'm rolling

[graceful flower]

time 😵 entropy 🤜 gamma ray burst 🤜 paper 🤜 rock
i screwed myself early game

[graceful flower]

idk what beats entropy 😭

[fresh comet]

like a rolling stone!

[flat harbor]

external energy influx ahahahahaha

[fresh comet]

this is blasphemy

higher! beats all

[solid yarrow]

._.

me feeling eepy

me feeling dead inside

;-;

[fresh comet]

https://tenor.com/view/moumik-hug-hug-taptap-gif-12415073493272629445

[graceful flower]

indiana jones 😵 the boulder from indiana jones 🤜 lawnmower 🤜 strings 🤜 the vacuum of space 🤜 hot death 🤜 cold death 🤜 the big crunch 🤜 tachyons 🤜 infinitely absorbent material 🤜 solar death ray 🤜 rock
this is some bullshit

[fresh comet]

LOL

[solid yarrow]

I could really use a real hug rn.

:(

[graceful flower]

aw, i hope u feel better 🩶

[latent edge]

what the heck

[fresh comet]

I can't do that

take this virtual hug instead

[solid yarrow]

I know...

[fresh comet]

https://tenor.com/view/virtual-hug-mikaela-hyakuya-mika-gif-7939510

[latent edge]

Raineifold being an ojiisan now

[solid yarrow]

Life been rough lately. How was your day higher and raine?

[graceful flower]

what's an ojiisan

[fresh comet]

lawnmower 🤜 strings I'M DYING

[vast wraith]

i did not come up with this… but “someone with an entropy kink” beats entropy

[fresh comet]

I've been doing quite well; been having lots of fun with topology lately

I hope things turn up better for you soon

[vast wraith]

i love topology i should get back to it

[fresh comet]

🫂

[graceful flower]

relatively good! im procrastinating on an exam but it is what ti si

[graceful flower]

that was the first thing that came to me

[fresh comet]

it's just funny

idk why

[jaunty ibex]

LMFAO

[neat lintel]

hi

[ocean harbor]

henlo

[fresh comet]

hullo

[steel vessel]

helo

[rocky shuttle]

halo

[verbal karma]

hola

[long pumice]

pondering, imagining in mustache poetry context frame the resonances of "gauss bell", not obvious mentions which was the whole contributing team to the Gauss brand, there seems to be a history of even mafia like games

Gauss looks too crypto cool profile, very suspicious

a perplexing angle frame on the math person as relatively superficial person

what gives?

[neat lintel]

hi

Kai u here ?

[fervent oyster]

yes

[neat lintel]

great so listen this out...

amount 200

50 = bet 1 + specefic
50 - bet 2 + specefic

amount 100

-50
100+

amount 200

more like gambeling kinda thing...

so that "specefic"
can be this for example
chosen player 1 outcome = twice of input.

or if
player 2 is chossen then outcome can be 3 times of they input.

so...

is there a math possible way to do this ??

[fervent oyster]

yes

[neat lintel]

im programer.... btw.

[fervent oyster]

so, just to be sure i understand what you mean

okay

you want to randomly choose player 1 or player 2, right?

[neat lintel]

yes

[fervent oyster]

okay

then you want the program to determine what to do depending on which player is chosen?

[neat lintel]

yes
goal is to get more then puten in !

[fervent oyster]

okay

one second

let me type something

[neat lintel]

sure.

[fervent oyster]

what is amount?

like what does the variable represent

[neat lintel]

for example its 200

i want to get 300
or higher
or higher then 200
but more then 220

if possible.....

[fervent oyster]

so

amount > 220

?

[neat lintel]

well kinda yes.
i guess its more like input.

[fervent oyster]

what do the 50s represent?

[fervent oyster]

okay

that helps a log

lot

thanks

[long pumice]

deep calculation on loose relatively too superficial base

or very long calculation, it is checked and overchecked accurate, but how about the nuanced attention to the fundamentals base

[neat lintel]

intresting....

[fresh comet]

higher!

[fervent oyster]

@neat lintel sorry, im still writing something

im thinking

[neat lintel]

im waiting. (:

[fervent oyster]

alrighty

[neat lintel]

should i code 🤔

i will ask gpt 😂

[fervent oyster]

i mean you can

either way is fine

[neat lintel]

sure

[long pumice]

besides the geometrical optics oversight, the more obvious mathematical one, the parallels postulate took millennia to sort out, while we were living on the surface of round Earth

[fresh comet]

what are we talking about here

[long pumice]

seems a sin of math area at philosophical fundamentals

the weird funny contrast of shallow mathematicians

[solid snow]

what...?

[fresh comet]

higher!

[neat lintel]

i have idea how to hack gambeling
and need a math stuff to hack it XD
cos maths more faster.

[fresh comet]

if you succeed, can you share some of it with me?

me broke student

[neat lintel]

not saying 100%.
i mean its simple idea...
open source info.......... IDK LOL

[fresh comet]

let me know when you succeed

then I will come ask again

[neat lintel]

makes you more dangerous to know it XD

[fresh comet]

[solid snow]

it'

s called card counting

[neat lintel]

why ?
i was trying to do a football stuff....

i will search it tho good idea.

[old oak]

Yellow card counting?

[long pumice]

KFG Gauss heard in the neaby pub as "ga us" or "ga usss"

ga ga ga

[solid snow]

wut

[long pumice]

what goose is that?

[old oak]

I think we're witnessing some kind of breakdown 😦

[long pumice]

not my breakdown, I am pressing on some related mafia problems

under ungly pressure position

ugly

there is a breakdown in the air

[solid snow]

⁉️

[long pumice]

I am mostly ok with the wikipedia Gauss, worry of possibly more sinister things hidden

using the subject for related problems dizzy solution approaching

[long pumice]

gauss seems very interesting to insist for some forms of corruption

the image contrasts ...

[old oak]

I was about to say "Gauss has been dead for a long time, he can't hurt you", but I suppose that's what they want us to think.

[fresh comet]

could it be that... Outsider is Gauss??

[long pumice]

there is something hidden major behind some publishing brands

a problem of deception

and misleading assumptions

[old oak]

That is true

[fresh comet]

always has been

[old oak]

Disappointingly no, but my boyfriend's aunt does live at Carl-Friedrich-Gauß-Straße in a German town

So I'm associated with the conspiracy

[fresh comet]

living up to your name, eh?

[neat lintel]

guys

is there another way to guess a password ?
using some kind of algorithim ?

[fresh comet]

use noggin

[old oak]

Social engineering tends to work best

[neat lintel]

no

i dont need that.

but humans are stupid tho !

[fresh comet]

perhaps mind control

[old oak]

Tell me about it

[neat lintel]

but i dont want to hack them...
i want to hack they password itself !
guess it. very very fast. using math stuff.

[solid snow]

not really outside of brute force

[old oak]

Something something quantum computing something something 🔮

[long pumice]

the golden superficiality of gauss for instance

what a joke

[neat lintel]

ok i gtg to somethign EXTREMELY IMPORTEND FOR ME
sorry about my English i will be back latter..

[solid snow]

can you elaborate on what you mean by that

[long pumice]

how is your math level?

how did you try to improve?

now the problems with the golden catchy trick profiles

what fishy games

next that as a highschool manual model

[solid snow]

Is this a language model?

[long pumice]

for ga ga ga gauss chicks

[old oak]

Sadly I'm afraid it's a human

[long pumice]

next they would defend the sin as a matter of political xenofobic race choice

next what are they really fighting for

[vast wraith]

please stick around brianuser

[long pumice]

I am: https://mihaiv.wordpress.com/about/

the loved deep systemic corruptions problem

the sad overall associated history

[fervent oyster]

im going

to cry

@neat lintel

i'm confused

what does 50 represent?

[neat lintel]

50 was they amont that we needed to bet

[fervent oyster]

oh, okay

[neat lintel]

Use 50$ from 100$

[fervent oyster]

i see

okay

@neat lintel

(i'm so sorry to all the programmers; this is probably horribly written)

[neat lintel]

code gone XD

[fervent oyster]

import random

playerOne = input("Player One, enter your name: ")
playerTwo = input("Player Two, enter your name: ")

playerOneWager = int(input(f"{playerOne}, enter your wager:"))
playerTwoWager = int(input(f"{playerTwo}, enter your wager:"))

moneyPoolAmount = playerOneWager + playerTwoWager
print(f"Combined wager: ${moneyPoolAmount}")

playerOneGuess = int(input(f"{playerOne}, enter your guess: "))
playerTwoGuess = int(input(f"{playerTwo}, enter your guess: "))

target = random.randrange(0, 10)

def choose(distance1, distance2):
if distance1 < distance2:
return playerOne
elif distance2 < distance1:
return playerTwo

def findNearest(playerOneGuess, playerTwoGuess, target):

distance1 = abs(playerOneGuess - target)
distance2 = abs(playerTwoGuess - target)
choose(distance1, distance2)
selectedPlayer = choose(distance1, distance2)
print(f"{selectedPlayer} has been selected!")

findNearest(playerOneGuess, playerTwoGuess, target)

# Add your conditions for winning here

[cinder zephyr]

Sending code not in a block 💀

[neat lintel]

that's the right way to send code from a certain point of view

[fervent oyster]

?

[solar hawk]

import random

playerOne = input("Player One, enter your name: ")
playerTwo = input("Player Two, enter your name: ")

playerOneWager = int(input(f"{playerOne}, enter your wager:"))
playerTwoWager = int(input(f"{playerTwo}, enter your wager:"))

moneyPoolAmount = playerOneWager + playerTwoWager
print(f"Combined wager: ${moneyPoolAmount}")


playerOneGuess = int(input(f"{playerOne}, enter your guess: "))
playerTwoGuess = int(input(f"{playerTwo}, enter your guess: "))

target = random.randrange(0, 10)

def choose(distance1, distance2):
    if distance1 < distance2:
        return playerOne
    elif distance2 < distance1:
        return playerTwo


def findNearest(playerOneGuess, playerTwoGuess, target):

    distance1 = abs(playerOneGuess - target)
    distance2 = abs(playerTwoGuess - target)
    choose(distance1, distance2)
    selectedPlayer = choose(distance1, distance2)
    print(f"{selectedPlayer} has been selected!")


findNearest(playerOneGuess, playerTwoGuess, target)


\# Add your conditions for winning here```

If viewing it on pc, you also get syntax highlighting

[loud snow]

Cap?

You can add syntax highlighting from mobile?

[solar hawk]

I did

But you can’t see it

[loud snow]

!

[solar hawk]

I wrote python at the top

[loud snow]

Sad

[solar hawk]

But you can only see it on pc

[loud snow]

Might as well use pastebin

[solar hawk]

Fr

[fervent oyster]

thanks

[vocal vessel]

Shirtless firemen
does not beat
Firemen
Adding 'shirtless' doesn't make them more effective at putting out fires, sadly.

score: 18
Shirtless firemen 😵 Firemen 🤜 House fire 🤜 Air freshener 🤜 Fart 🤜 Surgical mask 🤜 Bird flu 🤜 Poultry farmer 🤜 Feather 🤜 Strong man 🤜 Steel rod 🤜 Circular saw 🤜 Arm brace 🤜 Arthritis 🤜 Adult hands 🤜 Children’s scissors 🤜 Paper 🤜 Hardest rock 🤜 Harder rock 🤜 rock

[uneven tinsel]

Are you still playing this game

[languid hamlet]

anyone have any studying advice? i have a final math test in 9 days and i would really appreciate any tips !!

[uneven tinsel]

Yes next time don't wait till end start preparations early and this time use max time for study

Also practice

Perfect makes practice

[languid hamlet]

i think the textbook i have has some practice sections

better check that out

thanks!

[uneven tinsel]

[fresh comet]

<@&268886789983436800>

spammed in multiple channels too

[placid patio]

what’s e^x

[plain island]

deadificated

[fresh comet]

thanks Hayley

[plain thorn]

till the end

thats early

[uneven tinsel]

Okay

[uneven tinsel]

Function

[neat lintel]

horrible

[neat lintel]

HI

KAI HI and thanks i will check it latter....

anyone up rn ?

ping me if anyone is up....

[uneven tinsel]

Everyone sleeping

There exist no one who is up

Set is empty

[neat lintel]

help i just failed one of the most important test of my life, it was a scholrship test for the best schools in my area and would give extra ATAR if i passsed, but my dumbass failed and idk waht to do does anyone have any idea on what I should study for VCE

[north topaz]

dude what shit are you on, going to a selective school doesn't guarantee you 'extra ATAR'

also are you in year 8 or something

anyways, it's all about the opportunities you use in your school
there's no guaranteed pathway to success, and you should define success on your own terms rather than blindly trusting what your parents have in mind for you

[neat lintel]

im on sum crack man

[north topaz]

anyway I just felt a burning urge to correct you

you seem a bit lost and confused I guess

[neat lintel]

damm

i am

[neat lintel]

how did yk 🙏

[north topaz]

experience

I'm in uni right now, well undergrad so like I'm definitely not old or anything

[neat lintel]

okok

in aus?

[neat lintel]

which uni

[north topaz]

UofAdelaide studying maths

ye

[neat lintel]

doxx

[neat lintel]

is that good idk

[north topaz]

that's not a dox

[north topaz]

well yeah profs are friendly, nice and close-knit

[neat lintel]

ok what are u gonna be?

[north topaz]

UofAdelaide is ofc one of the group of 8 unis

Not that it matters too much

[neat lintel]

or planning

what would you do after graduating

how will you get food and shelter by studying math

ye

[north topaz]

it's a miracle people get food and shelter in general

like just search up 'maths careers'

[raven plaza]

I shall be a math officer

I will correct wrong math in the wild

[neat lintel]

cold

[uneven tinsel]

Study skibidi theorem if you want to make money using math

[mint canopy]

What about Joe's theorem?

[tepid turtle]

At what age do you guys think a wolf cut middle part is not suitable for a professional setting. Is there a certain point where long hair isn’t professional or does it not matter?

[north topaz]

doesn't matter imo

plenty of older people also have that haircut, of course it's more with straight hair of course

just make sure your hair doesn't cover your eyes and you're fine

e.g you can style it like this

[tepid turtle]

Aw hell nah

[neat lintel]

why nah ?

[tepid turtle]

Thank you.

[tepid turtle]

Personally, I don’t like the look of the way he styled it.

[north topaz]

but like this is 100% acceptable

[neat lintel]

looks like his hairline is receding on the right side

[north topaz]

just showing you lol

[north topaz]

yeah it's definitely not a deliberate fashion choice I'd say

[tepid turtle]

Honestly cause I’ve been thinking, although I’m in high school idk what hairstyles the way to go, I was thinking a low-mid taper middle part or a middle part wolf cut. But it’s hard to come to a decision.

I was just going to choose based off of what’s more mature

[stuck token]

why are you choosing a haircut on what looks mature?

just go for what you suit

or just what you want

[tepid turtle]

They both look good but I just opted for what’s more mature

[neat lintel]

why do you care about hair

You should not care about other people's opinion

that is the only path to achieve happiness and contentment

how do i remebr formuals

why do you want to remember them

for

maths

give example of formula you want to remember

Cacl formuals

[tepid turtle]

Repetition

[neat lintel]

Exmaple?

Newton’s
method

trapezium rule
approximation

chain rule

product rule

like that stuff

@neat lintel

product rule easy

d(uv)=udv+vdu

Chain rule and product rule like things get into muscle memory after enough practice

ok

trapezium rule can be understood

why the need to memories it

ok

Maybe understanding why the formula are like that would make the need to memories it go away

ok

[drifting forge]

hello

[kind prism]

haloo

[tidal prairie]

yep

[uneven tinsel]

Sup

[vast wraith]

tfw the exercises in Bhāskara II’s Līlāvatī

Pretty girl with tremulous eyes, if thou know the correct method of inversion, tell me, what is the number, which multiplied by three, and added to three quarters of the quotient, and divided by seven, and reduced by subtraction of a third part of the quotient, and then multipUed into itself, and having fifty-two subtracted from the product, and the square root of the remainder extracted, and eight added, and the sum divided by ten, yields two ?

[neat lintel]

pretty girl

[vast wraith]

Out of a swarm of bees, one-fifth part settled on a blossom of Cadamba; and one-third on a flower of Silindhri: three times the difference of those numbers flew to the bloom of a Cutaja. One bee, which remained, hovered and flew about in the air, allured at the same moment by the pleasing fragrance of a jasmin and pandanus. Tell me, charming woman, the number of bees.

oh this one is juicy…

Whilst making love a necklace broke. A row of pearls mislaid. One sixth fell to the floor. One fifth upon the bed. The young woman saved one third of them. One tenth were caught by her lover. If six pearls remained upon the string. How many pearls were there altogether?

(all of these translations are from Colebrook’s translation, which is available on the web archive: https://archive.org/details/algebrawitharith00brahuoft)

[uneven tinsel]

[crimson vine]

$f(x) = x-\tan(x)\
\pi = \lim_{n\to\infty} f^n (x)$ for any $\frac{\pi}{2}<x<\frac{3\pi}{2}$.

[fathom swallow]

neruguis

[crimson vine]

then tan(π) = 0

[neat lintel]

What if x=4.369

,w 4.369-tan(4.369)

[fathom swallow]

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[neat lintel]

close to π/2

[crimson vine]

$f^n= \underbrace{f(f(f(...}_{\text{n times}}\
f(x)^n = (f(x))^n\
f^{(n)}(x)=\frac{d^n}{dx^n}f(x)$

[fathom swallow]

neruguis

[crimson vine]

Then you have to apply many times

[neat lintel]

Oh

[crimson vine]

almost infinite

[neat lintel]

no

It would go undefined

,w x-tanx=π/2

[fathom swallow]

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[neat lintel]

if you take x exactly like thst

[crimson vine]

sure

[neat lintel]

so thst it goes exactly to π/2

and beckes undefined after first iteration

[crimson vine]

that’s why I said < and not <=

[neat lintel]

but 4.369≠π/2 or 3π/2

[crimson vine]

oh

ok

lemme see

sure

1.914

4.369

then we just have

we have to use f⁻¹

[neat lintel]

$f^n(4.369)=f^{n-1}(\pi/2)$

[ocean harbor]

add bracket

[crimson vine]

what

use {}

and \pi

and \frac{}{}

[fathom swallow]

grim reaper

[neat lintel]

yes now right

[crimson vine]

$f(4.369)=f^{-1}(\frac{\pi}{2})$

[neat lintel]

it becomes undefined

[fathom swallow]

neruguis

[crimson vine]

yes

I can get some digits

[neat lintel]

huh

that's interesting

apply f to both sides

[ocean harbor]

$f(4.369)=f^{-1}\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)$

[fathom swallow]

Kokichi

[neat lintel]

then f(f(4.369)) = pi/2

noo

[ocean harbor]

thats better

[neat lintel]

ok

$f^n(4.369)=f^{n-1}\left(\frac{\pi}{2}\right)$

[fathom swallow]

grim reaper

[neat lintel]

this is the qlequaiton

now take inverse function of f n-1 times to both sides

f(4.369) = pi/2

huh

no we have to find limit at n=infinity

[crimson vine]

4.36918237258

yeah

$f(x) = x-\tan(x)\
\pi = \lim_{n\to\infty} f^n (x)$ for any $1.95<x<4.38$.

[neat lintel]

oh im stupid

lol

oh this is hard

again idk how to do limits so

[fathom swallow]

neruguis

[neat lintel]

4 is approximately correct

[crimson vine]

I used this

$x- \frac{x-\tan(x) - \frac{\pi}{2}}{1-\sec(x)^2}$