#serious-discussion
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school is only 8 hours
what, he's gonna use the other 14 hours to play gd?
bro has to sleep
hes at max going to play for 4-5 hrs a day
nah bro when I was 14
thats still not enough time to beat something like slh 3x in a row
i used to tryhard minecraft all night
its minecraft
yes
thats an explorer game
💀
ik speedruns exist
Let me introduce you to servers
let's test you then
it really depends on what you're doing
i dont sweat
you don't need to
for sweats
it's pretty popular if you've played minecraft
like what
i asked him what is it not if he plays it
and what
idk some weapons?
looool
i was playing any pvp related gamemode
i play other games beside gd as well
and it's not easy to clutch a 4v4v4v1
p2w
clash royale is a p2w game
you pay to have an advantage
it's definetly harder to have game sense than to play for thousands of attempts
i was playing in same-level tourneys
everybody was at level 11 with level 11 cards
i was consistenly top 1.5k-3k at peak every season
i forgot about clash royale can't argue with ya on it
i invested like 2-3 hrs a day
my point is i beat high-skill players with equal level cards
so the p2w aspect goes out the window
what
need to go anyways
ok gl
saying clash is not p2w is wild
just play play until you get real 
im trying to beat space invaders by lazerblitz and mannix
r downloaded programs on the ti84 allowed on the ap calc exam
depends on your teacher tbh
whats the point
cuz i just saw a reel abt sum kid using a program to help him find roots of a polynomial (idk y u would need a program for that) and the thought just hit me
just study
because
you could install
integral solvers
derivative solvers
you chould cheat
volume solvers
thats more like cheating if you tryna make it on online
also you could do polynomial in latex
what’s latex
my mcq calculator active final is tmrw
any advice for calculator
tools
idk
like i didn’t even know there was built in polynomial root finders that come with it
I would suggest using synthetic division
unless you're cooked if you didn't practice or study
our mcq no calculator final was today
i got cooked
i got a 21/24
now my grade is at an 89.94
thats not bad lmfao
it’s pretty bad when ur teacher doesn’t round
like as being in canada im dying to get an 80 
anyways here's what latex can do
$\polylongdiv{6x^3 + 13x^2 + 0x - 9}{2x + 3}$
K²en [𝔸𝔨𝔦𝔯𝔞]
$$\polyhornerscheme[x=-3]{6x^4-3x^3+2x-5}$$
K²en [𝔸𝔨𝔦𝔯𝔞]
something like this
u can do that on the calculators?
no in latex
oh
get an online editor and add "\usepackage{polynom}"
honestly not knowing latex here must be a skill issue cuz I was like that and then i learned latex here owo
ive also heard of typst and people say it is easier than latex
💀 I learned it because it looked nicer with my flashcards.
Yo discussion 2
Wsg
...
$\polyhornerscheme[wtf=numbers]{christ more numbers}$
Xela
Compile Error! Click the
reaction for more information.
(You may edit your message to recompile.)
is it in your preambles?
what does this means?
It's an algorithm for evaluating polynomial functions
Guys why chemistry make me kms
$\polylongdiv{14x^2 + 28xy + 14y^2}{x+y}$
esca | এস্কা
$\polylongdiv{14x^2 + 28xy + 14y^2}{x+y}$
```Compilation error:```! Undefined control sequence.
<recently read> \polylongdiv
l.49 $\polylongdiv
{14x^2 + 28xy + 14y^2}{x+y}$
The control sequence at the end of the top line
of your error message was never \def'ed. If you have
misspelled it (e.g., `\hobx'), type `I' and the correct
spelling (e.g., `I\hbox'). Otherwise just continue,
and I'll forget about whatever was undefined.```
Any latex tutorial?
Go to overleaf or on YouTube dr Trefor bazett has a series
pinned messages too in #latex-help
ye
polynomial division is awesome
the fuck- i didnt know latex was this powerful
us fr
lmao
i thought it was just styling 💀
you should thank hayley cuz she's the one who showed me this lol
I had this in my preamble and I didn't know this was a thing
Someone in my class told me about that because they used it for a homework we had, I actually have no clue what latex can and can’t do
my first typed up solution (took me way too long
)
how did you make this
it's not my own
det was kind enough to give me it

Does anyone know about ted kazinsky?
You mean Ted Kaczynski?
Theodore John Kaczynski ( kə-ZIN-skee; May 22, 1942 – June 10, 2023), also known as the Unabomber ( YOO-nə-bom-ər), was an American mathematician and domestic terrorist. He was a mathematics prodigy, but abandoned his academic career in 1969 to pursue a primitive lifestyle.
Between 1978 and 1995, Kaczynski murdered three individuals and injure...
mathematician who went off the rails even more than is usual
Tried to read his thesis. I gave up...
He was right about technology and leftism
wtf? he died less than a year ago?
Reading Ted's story I am now seeing that they were not insane
Bro went to live in the woods by himself and then society came and chopped down all the woods
made a whole proof on it 💀
Why did he went off for such an extreme?
Like, I the general ideal seems great, but the approach is not clever enough..
Why would he not be able to predict that tho. That escapes my mind.
what algorithem really made you think
part from rsa
for any of my ap calc students
if the ap calc ab frq answer key uses the tangent line equation to approximate but i used the linear approximation formula to approximate and both got the same answers, is till get the point right
these... are the same thing
yes
they might be written differently but they are the same thing in the end
the tangent line is the linear approximation
Bruh u got to be joking rn
oi, for anyone that loves chatgpt but wants to jump into a mulcher when they use it for maths, i found an ai that seems good asf. its not free free, but im pretty sure u get like some daily allowance, or just make more accs: https://thetawise.ai/chat
!nogpt
Please do not trust ChatGPT or similar AI tools for mathematical tasks, as they often generate output which "sounds correct" but has numerous factual or logical errors. Use of these AI tools to answer other people's help questions is strictly against server rules (see #rules).
ay, im not solving anyones problem with it, just putting it out there as it has been reliable when ive used it, and it explains how you can get it yourself. you should try it
No language model is reliable for mathematical tasks
try it, seems good to me so far
im sorry 😦
It’s fine
Is there a name for a function f(x1, ..., xn) so that permuting the inputs in any way yields the same output?
symmetric function
that was my first guess! thanky
honestly just need the validation of one other person to greenlight my choice of name for such a function
google is my validation https://mathworld.wolfram.com/SymmetricFunction.html lol
google isn't a human but I appreciate it nevertheless
well someone wrote the words on that page 🤣
you never know these days 😔

I'm haven't been fishing recently
I LaTeX'd my first problem
det gave me the \eeveeqed (which I honestly think should be called \qeevee, but whatever)
QED... Qeevee, haha
I tend to avoid using the implication / biconditional arrows if I'm writing a proof 
but then I have to prove in both directions, and me lazy
hey y’all
Yesterday, I was looking through a proof I did previously and was wondering how tf I got from one line to the next

the proof is left as an exercise to the reader...
you guys interested in a quote I really love? here it is anyways: || never gonna give you up never gonna let you down ||
very motivational
Then I looked at my scratch papwr and realised "yeah that makes sense. I can continue to leave that as an exercise to the reader (even though the author myself forgot why it works)"

Exactly 
I used to write out my proofs in a lot of detail
I actually really hate it when this happens LOL
But, once, I got feedback that i was being too pedantic
Hence my urge to write concisely nowadays
if I forget how I got from one part to another, then I like to go back and fill in the gaps
Yeah same
I got feedback that I was too pedantic in many of my proofs and continued to be pedantic 
how is Rudin going
Fine ig
if you haven't been reading FIS lately
Mfw school work
who's in the Zorn group actually

DarQ (instructor), Amukh, hyzae, some other ppl
Epic (Eric) is inside there too, as an instructor

your propaganda shall not work on me
You shall fall to the light side
Rise to the holy grounds
F o u n d a t i o n s
Amen

I wonder if anybody has a diff geo reading group in the works
I'd join
whoops, typo
Just make one yourself 
does one need to know a subject before making a group on it
I'd imagine so, right?
Eh maybe not. You can always advertise it as a "learn together" group ig?
Or force some honourable to help


I asked TTerra if he'd make a reading group on DG, but he said that it'd probably be on some obscure stuff 
ISM would be a prereq
oof
Speaking of linear algebra, I like how learning it from FIS has made my syllabus' computational lin alg quite easy
Sometimes I come up with more efficient ways of doing things too hehe
Ah rip :(
mhm
FIS is awesome
Not to mention that my school's explanations kinda suck sometimes
Care to share some?
Mfw you introduce determinants without any motivation
Bit hard since im on mobile rn
or, you can go via the Leibniz definition...
Oh no no no its worse
Okay
They didn't even give the cofactor expansion def
They just gave a weird looking formula for 3x3 matrices, involving the cross and dot product
iirc, we defined the determinant as the unique, multilinear, alternating function from M_n to F with the property that det(I) = 1
smth like that
and used Leibniz definition
I was totally lost 
Well it is useful but the theory to show it's properties is tough

Which is equivalent to the cofactor def, but feels unnecessarily complicated
Like just w h g
W h y*
What's better is the no motivation/intuition part. They didn't even spend a sentence talking about how determinants basically measure volume
to be fair
the volume interpretation of the determinant was only brought in for 2 minutes in my course
we really focused on the Leibniz formula
Yeah but I feel that a mention of it is still better than zero intuition, and plain formula chugging
I mean yeah
That's a nice one 
hey guys
it's nice, but I got pummeled by it 
can anyone pls help me with a quick phy problem ??
(I was much less mathematically mature at the time, even less so than rn)
!help
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Its okie, what doesn't kill you makes you stronger 

noo for physics I cant do thatt
I need to send it on discussion or smt
says so in the rules
if it's simple enough, it can go in the help channels
if not, check out the physics server
Enderton beat the shit outta me, even though its probably easy relative to other math books
But I grew stronger 
will do that, thanks
Enderton looks scary
only to make
mistakes more frequently than I should
set theory looks scary
Its cool to me
I don't doubt it is
Mfw Enderton suddenly brought in infinite cartesian products in ch 2
That confused me so hard
One guy reading Enderton was stuck on that for months and presumably gave up (he didn't wanna skip it temporarily) 

actually, besides FIS/Rudin/Enderton, what else have/are you reading
I've seen those three mentioned from you before
nothing else
Eh not much else
ah
Schroder was my main analysis text
Schroder looks like an awesome text
I was at the second chapter of the Riemann Integral before I stopped, specifically the first section, on the outer lebesgue measure.
I wonder: if I read finish parts I and II of Schroder, would I be able to pass a computational mvc exam without learning computational mvc? 
Mfw you learn manifolds just to pass computational mvc 
yeah, probably
well... maybe not with Schroder alone...
I've just started reading CoM (that's what I was LaTeX'ing earlier), and I'm planning to supplement it with Folland (Advanced Calculus, not his Real Analysis) so I can get more exposure to the computatonal stuff
What's his adv calc about
chapters 2, 6, and 8 are probably gonna be skipped by me
Folland doesn't do that Stokes' theorem, but CoM does
nice
I'm also starting ITM in... 1 week
with amukh
I'm not sure how hard it is to read 2 books at once, but I'm gonna try my hand
what is itm
intro to top manifolds
Introduction to Topological Manifolds
oic

Rudin reading group has stopped temporarily, giving me plenty of time to finish up the hw, which is nice.
But when both the Rudin reading group and Sharp's set theory group, and my school work ramps up, I think I'll have to pick and choose what to do, wisely. 
I'm (mostly, not quite entirely...) free for the next 4 months, so I'm lucky in that regard
I probably won't get the time to self-proof all 10000 theorems 

Do you know a good video on the intreduction of topological manifolds?
i wanted to join the model theory reading group, but i had performance week last week
Oh, is there another model theory reading group
Well.. admittedly I was mostly absent in the last one so I won't be able to really participate, but..
well i only know about the one being led by i think sqeral
Yeah, so I guess there is a new one
whaaat there’s a model theory reading group how do i sign up
@lapis hull
Christ
So pissy
Good morning rycie bycie!
Yeahhhhh no
Wtf

Wait someone told me ryc was a pigeon
Blo is a liar
Thank you uwu
Is ryc the true liar 
Yeah
I have done a lot of lying
But this is not a lie
Sure
I never even had a pigeon pfp
Sure
It was a sparrow
Sure
Idk how anyone thinks thats a pigeon
You are literally a pigeon
And this is a crow
Rybirb
You wanna be a crow
I wanna be a falcon
But you pigeon
I dont have to be a falcon
But where did pigeon come from. It's a fabrication of the jealous minds of the math discord
Sure
Build a nest to prove it
Plot twist, turns out he's a cuckoo
New jefeh pfp
Confession, I'm not a real owl either.
Nah ryc isn't a parasite
Building a nest cant be that hard
It's just twigs, innit
I don't even remember the previous one
Little luchador guy
You arent jefeh pilled like i am
A day later:
egg
i did >:S
Playing minecraft, why is there so many diamond than I anticipated
I am just digging for deepslate, why shall diamond block my path
any latex docs other than overleaf and this cheat sheet https://wch.github.io/latexsheet/latexsheet-1.png?


💀💀💀
,iam dying
Gave you the studying! selfrole.
can we use newton girard identify for negative index (sums of powers of reciprocals of roots)
wait what
You can't spell "studying" without "dying"
Just like you can't spell "slaughter" without "laughter"
suffering from success??
You cant spell "skill" without "kill"
You can't spell feathers without letters
You can use cuneiform.
Funny alphabets
Who has the time?!
If i take the s in "skill" and add it in the end it becomes "kills"
Make ur own symbols instead its easier
It's 16:48 GMT
What, where?
I̸͋̊ ̵̌̚d̶̋̎i̶͆̈d̵̈́͠ ̷̓͛o̸̊nce, but n̶͒͒o̸͌̅ ̸͂one co̔́u̷͊́l̷̒̓d̵̈́͛ ̷understan̸͍̍d̵̾͑ ̷̎̋ẘ̶͠h̴̍̒a̸͗̎t̸͠ I was sayḯ̶́n̸͗̌g
I never said other ppl should understand it
羽
毛
Hair?
Feather is 羽
I guess you can use 羽毛 too
To me that feels more like a coating of feathers
mods can i have a thread for posting where i commit for daily mathing a la this thread: https://forum.pianoworld.com/ubbthreads.php/topics/3508949/1.html ?
I'm shocked to find out that the veins and arteries aren't actually red and blue inside the body. i have been lied to
Same I known since a while it's a interesting fact
Nooo it's フェザー
lol
Hello fellas
I'm doing ordinary (lower) maths and want to go to higher(more difficult) maths
In a secondary school, 5th year. Am I to late?
never too late
too late for what
Yeah, you are too late to meet isaac newton
You might be right
Yeah I mean I was in higher for about 2 ish years and moved down for about another 2 years so idk what highers like currently, other than we're all doing the same group atst, like calculas, and slope n differentiatoon
you'll be fine, university math usually starts with set theory, real analysis (so differentiation ec.) and linear algebra
mathbot code is making me cry
can someone send me arduino discord server invite link please thanks
Well talk about it
whoever uploaded the :kurisugoodjob: emoji is very cultured
hey
does for all differential eqn with complex roots form an oscialltgin graph
If its second order and constant coefficient linear, then yeah.
If the roots are complex but the order is higher than second order it can do different weird stuff
Or if its not constant coefficient, or not linear
wow
ins't that amazing
i mean how come something like de can be so related and have connection with oscillation
I mean this is just because the basic trig functions sine and cosine, and the complex exponential function satisfy very simple degree 2 linear differential equations
in general when you're talking about homogeneous linear ordinary differential equations, any complex roots will come in conjugate pairs, so you'll inevitably see these kinds of degree 2 linear differential equations showing up as part of the solution
Are there any good servers for anatomy and physiology?
How can I share screenshots ?
I'm trying to comprehend an equation I found in a research paper, what I thought was first understand the underlying math concepts to fully grasp it and by that I meant not completing an entire calculus course, but just enough of what I need to understand it in order not to lose time and energy. https://excalidraw.com/#json=yKURDJBEJhpChsRfkrPMy,KKAy0mVYj6obc8c8OTTrVA
I just want feedback on my approach for tackling hard math equation.
May I ask why? (Maybe in DMs)
Bru
ok
What's the best subject u need to focus more
wym
Is it ela and math?
yea u need ela and math most
Will u still get free apartment when you fail college
no
Btw can h even fail college?
dont fail college
just study everyday and learn
u can fail college and get kicked out
what u gonna do
then why u thinking about other stuff
Idk how my life will go until I'm 21 and start earning own money
Do my parents feed me until in 21?
no
u get job minimum wage if u dont go to college
and spend 10 hours everyday working to pay bills
and never go ufc
Hmm
-_-
Some kid from my school wants be soccer player and he said his not going college
💀
Isn't college waist of time
??
ima tell u something that will change ur life
if u only hang out with smart people at school and dont talk to anyone else
u will be smart like them
I kinda am with smart people
-_-
bruh
Wdym
How do you think people get degrees then
Like who let bro cook
Also it’s waste not waist
It is totally at about waist of our lifetime
Mb misspelled
ok taj u should go to tutoring after school everyday
u will beat all other students in your classes
Bullier?
u will know more than them i mean
some would say so, yeah
its not a waste of time for u taj its a waste of time for some people but youre not one of them
ok bye
For most people yeah
most people are below average so college is beneficial for them
I wasted like a year and a half doing computer science just to switch to EMS because its easier, takes less time to do and probably will pay more
Incorrect, less than half of people are below average
i mean most people are below the average college graduate
below in what sense?
in earnings if thats what u meant it being a waste of time in
or just in education in general
i think earnings is the only thing that matters in life so most people are better off going to college in that case
It would be so funny if most college graduates are below the average college graduates
wym
median vs average
maybe
I heard its better to go into a "middle skilled" job for earnings
whats that
Basically jobs that only require certifications or associates degrees
idk maybe
ur probably right
what i thought u need to go to school tomorrow and sleep
u can work now
What job
go walk around the neighborhood and offer service for people after school
to make money
knocking on door
like cutting grass or something
yeah i sold minecraft builds online and graphic design
idk like 2010
What age u started working
to make most money possible
main purpose of business is to make most money possible in the business
U spend money to buy stuff and sell to payback
no
If u sell apple for 1 dola and me for .99$, if someone come, will he buy ur or mine?
people arent smart they think with emotions
Wow only ur smart
so whoever emotionally influences the customer wins the money
Did you buy bitcoin then
No, just saying that money-wise, that could have been the best move
yea
taj people think cheap stuff is bad
and expensive stuff is good
if u sell an apple for cheap they wont buy cuz something is wrong with it
Fr that what my dad thinks
if i sell an apple expensive they think its best apple
even though its the same apple
thats what everyone thinks
Not really
you dont have time or energy to find out whats good or bad
Like poor people probably buy lower prices
so u can only think if its expensive it must be good
you have to go to work or school you cant bother learning which item is better
So what u Wana sell?
anything
minecraft
minecraft game
can i introduce you into doing buildings for other people in exchange for money
What people buy most
lisa is smart
DRUGS
yeah u make more money by selling expensive stuff to rich people
So if you are eager to earning money, why did you not buy bitcoin
because we were are stupid
Wait,
you are not eager to earn money, are you
i only saw people buying bitcoin to send money anonymously online
why do we like to self-deprecate, you and me
Yeah..

yo that's crazy
College graduates paying more and earning less?
college enrollment going down and online self education growing by 20% percent per year
i think if someone just puts the bare amount of actual effort in college they will outperform most college students in the marketplace
seems like most college students cheat in all classes and learn little
i guess mostly in the non stem jobs
Anecdotally, I think it occurs in stem courses too
This is a wild generalisation
Indeed a college degree doesn't mean anything compared to like 30 or 40 years ago
The "PhD working at Starbucks" trope is real
The amount of people using ChatGPT and shit seems to be insane, so many people just share answers etc
I heard a girl in my algebra class who has told me she has better grades than me in that course (I have a 90% average) didn’t know what a field was
Also note that in a lot of low socioeconomic areas many people start a degree but never finish
Look up graduation rates in 6 years, the national average is surprisingly low
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probably i know people that cheated in accounting
i just dont know if someone can cheat in like an engineering major lol
video so long
It's worth watching though
I guess you're not a fan of any documentaries or investigative journalism then
i am but this guy is unknown to me
i dont like to watch unqualified peoples research
Fair enough
How do you know they are unqualified?
i dont know thats what im saying
TikTok brain rot

anything longer than 20 minutes should be treated as long
7 to 20 minutes should be medium
below that is short
B+ average in the two final years of an honours Bachelor’s degree
Does this mean B+ in both the second last and last year separately or B+ averaged over the two years
For a grad school app
averaged
google is incredible
indeed
northernlion made a video about this
Hello discussion 2
Surely they use something more sophisticated than edit distance
Wonder what it is
I've been viewing since 2008
westernbirb made a video about dynamical donuts
some of my classmates do, they'd use the internet or look at notes they've written down or whatever
Looking at notes is fine, i don't consider that cheating
Well it is
It's not allowed during exams, atleast in high school
If you mean uni, yes, there we're allowed to take in notes, usually
Well i was refering to stem exams in college where most of the time its not allowed but notes wont give you a straight answer in those
Though at most 2 pages of handwritten ones
Sometimes you can also bring in your printed lecture notes
Yeah, one page where i go and has to be written, no 2 size letter printed notes with no margins 😹
Well you can still write extremely small, lol
Yeah, 1 is good enough though, to write a couple of theorems
I guess people in physics or chem would use many more
why cant i send a pic
Why did all the channel descriptions disappear?
Very odd
gusy help me in help forum
Help channels are usually more active
kk
will helpers volunteer their time to do my final exams?
Currently lying awake thinking about the exam I did today and realising all the mistakes I made and now realising I actually might’ve fucked it 
So stressed I’ve gave myself heartburn and I can’t sleep so that’s always fun I really do enjoy exams
Interesting system
@neat lintel
wut
Little y
Na, cuz our state test is coming
R u online? @neat lintel
I'm skinny like that old man
And why he coach's girls?
What's the point of girl becoming boxer?
-_-
GOOSEEEEEE
R U ONLINE?
He’s Olympic coach
They are boxing for sport not violence
Just time to be on
-_-
Idk where u from but the time here almost 12am
Same
-_-
Did u do math today
It’s good for u
-_-
Study for state test
To learn more
-_- really bruh
Yes
I know math from 0-7 grade
Nice
Do u speak Russian?
Learn what
0-7 math
Why would send me a Russian channel
Not russa
Ok
Yea we speak tajik
Same
No
?
Yea
"I take people into deep water and they discover themselves"
Yea what?
Khabib said that
Said what
My bio
Really?
Yes
Do he mean when he fight people until they get tired then he wins?
What languages u speak
Yea
..
Cap
Where u from
USA
Where u born?
I mean like what's ur culture
Bosnia
Yes
I never heard of that country
Yugoslavia
I'm bad in social studies, idk countrys -_-
What same thing
Yugoslavia Russia
No
What language u speak in home
English
Wbu
I told u before
Did u train today
U should train today
Playing socer
Like striking
What's striking
Boxing
I don't like boxing really
How u gonna join ufc without boxing
Isn't it different?
No
U gonna lose only legs
Before going ufc
U need to use arms too
Yes u need to master boxing and wrestling and jui jitsu
Then u join
Btw, am I actually skinny? Height 5,6 weight 105lb
What's jui jitsu
Brazil country fighting
Man wth
I don’t think u even want to join ufc
It's gonna take like 10 years or more to master all, when will you become a UFC fighter
After 10 years
Like when ur 40??
25
Yes u can
Never back down never what?
Bro his father trained him
U know khamzat chimaev
Yea
The first famous fight form my country
Wow
How I get a coach
It’s free coach at school when u start high school
Yes but I cant just wait for hight school
Yo shall I tell my dad I want to be ufc fighter
Maybe
He might be my coach too
He doesn’t know
Na
In 2025?
Now
Ask who
High school coach?
Yes
I don't go to wrestling
Okay don’t
Like I mean I don't go for practice because my dad won't let me, I workout in home
Idk then
Btw what's the difference between body builders and working out
Nothing
U have equipment
Not really
It shows you on google images when u look it up
U need plyometrics and core workout
Abs
If u want to workout, which part of body has to be strong first
Like abs arm shoulder leg
Abs
No shoulder first?






