serious-discussion

[dusty moth]

Me fr

[earnest flax]

When it's 2:03 every number is prime too

[old oak]

All numbers are prime, but some are more prime than others

[earnest flax]

0 being less prime than 1

[raven plaza]

(0) is a prime

[earnest flax]

(1), the best prime number

[raven plaza]

Tfw my point is empty

[visual breach]

1 should be a prime, otherwise Spec F_1 won't make sense, right
( )

[solid yarrow]

Is this self study in some sense?

[vivid halo]

I mean yeah

[solid yarrow]

How does your self study look like?

Do you just read stuff and skip proofs, exercises?

I'm curious

[vivid halo]

I mean I mostly read a lot of papers

And take a lot of notes in LaTeX

Usually amounts to rewriting some parts of papers and trying to improve exposition/combine things

Usually have some examples in mind or things I want to prove

[vernal token]

Do you just keep those notes for yourself or do you share them or something?

[vivid halo]

mostly for myself but they eventually turn into papers or whatever

sometimes share them with people who are interested

[craggy shore]

is there a channel for pysic or can anyone recomed a good sever

for pysichs

[rocky shuttle]

#old-network

[craggy shore]

thank yo

[earnest flax]

About this you're a "better version" of me but not that different, since i try to find new stuff with what i know of math (that isn't a lot)

last time i had an interesting tought was a geometrical progression with geometrical figures instead of numbers, which the area stays the same but the sides are added by one with each corresponding term.

[neat lintel]

I hate my professor

[lean sinew]

anyone know whats the difference between the green and the red book of mathematical problems

[old oak]

Well, one is green and another is red

[devout vale]

red is math

[proud olive]

Blue is math

[earnest flax]

Purple is math squared

[neat lintel]

Me too

[neat lintel]

one is covered in blood

[vast wraith]

the only prof i ever hated was my mechanics prof

he would not shut up about his bs startups when he was supposed to be teaching physics, also he wrote the textbook and it’s dense with errors

[old oak]

Move fast and break things

[surreal bison]

did the startups succeed?

[raven plaza]

Well he was a mechanics prof

(as in, as opposed to running a start-up)

[sonic sentinel]

why is life so boring why can't the earth spontaneously explode or something

[inner briar]

NONO

[neat lintel]

that would be even more boring

[neat lintel]

It's because you're not a kia boy

[rocky shuttle]

would you rather the earth be destroyed because of some intergalactic highway construction project?

[fair mural]

that would be very not boring

[honest python]

Notation question: normally when we write functions we can specify their types by writing, say, f: R^n -> R. If I have a function that takes in an arbitrary number of arguments, how would I write it?

[river moon]

there's no such thing

if you want you can come up with something like the set of sequences that represent your "arbitrary number of arguments"

and then define a function from that set to whatever

[honest python]

let's just say f is, say, a mean, a sum, a l^p norm...

maybe it's a bit of an abuse of notation :p

[river moon]

there's still finite number of arguments there

[honest python]

yeah

finite, but arbitrary

[river moon]

n arguments isn't arbitrary anymore, it's n

[honest python]

fair, but normally when you write f:R^n-> R you expect n to be fixed or at least known a priori

I'm trying to hint that "you should ignore this", sorta like _ in some programming languages

[old oak]

Ultimately a function always has one argument, a function of n variables (say from R^n into R) is ackshually a function whose one argument is a tuple of n real numbers, i.e. an element (just one) of R^n. So if you want ot think of your function as taking an arbitrary number of variables, you'd probably want its domain to be the union of R^n's over some range of n

[river moon]

yes and it's easy to recursively define a set of functions with at most n arguments once you fix n

but it's hard to make it a function that can take both finite number of arguments and infinte number of them

[old oak]

Yeah, my suggestion isn't actually the way I'd recommend doing that, it would make more sense to consider a family of functions from R^n into R over varying n

And establish some properties of that family that are independent of n

[river moon]

I was just responding to gnd

[honest python]

fair fair haha

[old oak]

Sure, I was just clarifying that my suggestion isn't actually worth using

Just that you could do it if you were really determined to do so for some reason

[river moon]

at least in C++ it just makes enough different functions with as many arguments as you needed

[old oak]

Python does let you define a function with unspecified arguments

But functions in programming aren't really quite the same as functions in mathematics

[old oak]

I mean, that is the canonical way it happens.

Possibly already has

[torn orchid]

What order of math regarding calculus , and advanced maths like analysis and combitronics will you suggest; I know like before calc its algebra 1, algebra 2, then geometry, but is there a given order afterwards

[old oak]

It branches out in different directions

[glass peak]

Not really, and even the classes like algebra 1 -> geometry or whatever isn’t universal

In the UK for example, and I think a lot of Europe, you just do “maths” and it’s all mixed

[torn orchid]

oh ok, it's just like i thought it as a general directon but ig there really isnt one

[glass peak]

Typically after your standard highschool maths assortment you’d do like linear algebra analysis, differential equations and multi variable calculus then maybe like abstract algebra, complex analysis and topology but there isn’t really a set order to do these things

They’re all interwoven but also kinda independent, you’ll get different things and different approaches depending on what you already know

[neat lintel]

it's bigger than the number of possible things that can happen in the universe

[tawdry pecan]

wait how many is the universe

like im not surprised in the slightest

but thats an extreme understatement of how big this number is imo

[neat lintel]

yeah

[neat lintel]

idk but its a lot smaller

the number of outcomes is actually about skewes number lol

[tawdry pecan]

oh and for the record, thats how many 1's this program halts with:
>>-[-[[->+>+<<]>[-<+>]>-]+<<<<]

[neat lintel]

i once invented a large number

[tawdry pecan]

about

[neat lintel]

nahh really

that small

[tawdry pecan]

yes really

[neat lintel]

BB(6) found?!

[tawdry pecan]

LOL pretty much

[neat lintel]

check my yt

its stupid

but funny

[tawdry pecan]

well no theres definitely a bigger number that you could make with that small a program, but the pattern would be unintelligible

ill check it out

[neat lintel]

yeah

ofc

[tawdry pecan]

I can try to explain how it works, it kind of simulates a cellular automata of sorts

[neat lintel]

my number is bigger than that number

[tawdry pecan]

yea

[neat lintel]

proof is easy

u saw it? lol

[tawdry pecan]

mine is small sauce compared to most numbers in googology

[neat lintel]

ohhp

[tawdry pecan]

not yet

ill watch ur video before i explain it

yeah that is crazy big @neat lintel

very clever too i like it

[neat lintel]

yeah

[tawdry pecan]

alright and now to explain

imagine you have a 5

and it splits into [n-1][n-1] (they are next to each other not multiplied or smth)

so 5 ->44

[neat lintel]

ooh

cool

[tawdry pecan]

but you can only split if you arent blocked

so if you keep going you end up with 43211

and the 2's bubble to the top to become 2 more 1s

43211

43121

43112

431111

[neat lintel]

ok

so now ur applying this to like 1000?

[tawdry pecan]

well not quite

only to like 254

[neat lintel]

ah

why not 255

did u make this?

[tawdry pecan]

makes the program smaller , yeah

[neat lintel]

how

- vs --

[tawdry pecan]

well its not that simple

[neat lintel]

oh

[tawdry pecan]

look at the program again

-[-[[->+>+<<]>[-<+>]>-]+<<<<]

the first is to start the loop

[neat lintel]

oh

yeah

[tawdry pecan]

the second is placed there because of golfing fuckery

[neat lintel]

and its just crazy recursive?

i tried to understand the biggest number on googology once

[tawdry pecan]

yeah, even 6 is just incomputable

5 is just barely

[neat lintel]

rlly? i didnt think it was that clever

huh

[tawdry pecan]

I mean you could have just spammed tree or smth

[neat lintel]

the fandom

i failed

[tawdry pecan]

which one would that be?

[neat lintel]

also what is the largest one actually i found like 5 contenders

[tawdry pecan]

yeah some of the definitions are super confusing

[neat lintel]

rayo is like 3rd tho right

[tawdry pecan]

I think theyre too big to compare LOL

[tawdry pecan]

not sure

[neat lintel]

i learned some set theory to understand rayo

i wonder

now take my number

what about SKI combinator calculus?

[tawdry pecan]

YES

[neat lintel]

oh wait thats loader

[tawdry pecan]

theres something with like, oracle busy beavers

i remmber that

[neat lintel]

gtg for like 10 mins

[tawdry pecan]

aight cya

[vocal roost]

I escaped to here

...People be talking about rings and groups in #discussion (it's almost a meme)

[tawdry pecan]

rings are the the the htet hethet the the]

[neat lintel]

im back for a few mins

[neat lintel]

i dont like the oracle ones cause its probably extremely hard to prove their relative size to other numbers

[tawdry pecan]

yeah true

[neat lintel]

i wonder if we can make ur thing more powerful

also consider smth thats on the verge of being tc, but isnt

[tawdry pecan]

oh yeah def

[neat lintel]

yeah

like what if pascal's triangle but with canceling out

[tawdry pecan]

i just came up with a cellular automaton and decided to brinfuck it

[neat lintel]

that should stabilize

[tawdry pecan]

hmm

[neat lintel]

ok

[tawdry pecan]

the cells wrap at 256

[neat lintel]

yeah ik

ive coded bf

gtg

[tawdry pecan]

alright

[tawdry pecan]

o yeah i forgot 😭

yeah theres stuff i could try, its been on my mind the past week or so, so im just kinda stewing it

[neat lintel]

How did you deal with that?

How did you still have the motivation to study even tho like your prof is like that

[neat lintel]

Anyone know good tips to improve at math and get my grade up and all my other subjects like just improve in general my weakest subject is math and I study all of my subject every day but I still do so shi

Use the help channels

[wispy wolf]

you could ask for help from others if you dont understand something. im not too sure how you study like but the way you study things can be important

remember to take breaks and stuff tho. sleeping can make you memorise information better too. and study what you dont understand the most first, or the hardest

you can also try practice exams and papers, textbooks and yea

oh and also if you get your past math papers or somethin

review what you failed to do

and take notes of things you either need help with, need to study, etc. something like that

there are many resources and youtube too. i also recommend you to study on a workbook rather than online because it helps to memorise information better

stay hydrated too and dont always overwork yourself. first plan your study sessions and topics and probably stick to it

[neat lintel]

ok

we can do it tmr if u want, im free

[tawdry pecan]

sure, me too

[neat lintel]

Make sure you understand the things you are studying?

[grand pecan]

i dont understand how "you have one half of a pizza and you divide by a fourth of a pizza and now you have 2 new pizzas" -https://www.youtube.com/shorts/nxEJAycwuh4

perhaps this: one half is a ratio. every chicken gets has two eggs.

every dog wants 4 eggs.

distribute 1 chicken's eggs among 4 dogs.

i dont knowww.... someone

say this:

two people make a couple

every 4 people gets 1 cake.

2 cakes per couple.

WHAT its wrong bruh

2 couples per cake.

EAZYYYYY

[neat lintel]

You can't divide a pizza by a pizza

It is not well defined

[grand pecan]

it gives a unitless number no?

in that case it makes sense. the ratio of 1/2 to 1/4 is 2:1, and the 2 is just pointless for conceptuallization without units

[vast wraith]

i didn’t, lol, i stopped going to lectures but passed just fine… i had meant to take more physics after that but when i saw he was teaching that as well i just didn’t bother

[craggy parcel]

half a cake per couple?

4 people get 1 cake, each person gets fourth of a cake

[grand pecan]

i meant this one

[neat lintel]

$$\M[1;2]$$

[earnest orbit]

good to see you here mate~

bangla>>

[dusty moth]

Hello

[tulip viper]

does anyone know how to study or a morning routine for the morning if ur planning to study for 12 hours at home and ur lazy asf in the morning

[narrow carbon]

There is no magical technique or method.

Wake up, wash your face. Don't start chatting or scrolling. Open your book and study.

[cinder zephyr]

Why 12 hours 💀

I mean doing anything for 12 hours is hard

[neat lintel]

The way to study is to just do it

Play some yoko kanno while you do so https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL418AB12A48A2E142

Set small goals while studying like

I'll finish this one chapter
And when you accomplish that goal set a new one

[leaden skiff]

protip: don't study for 12 hours in a day

[narrow carbon]

I wonder how one can get that much time.

[leaden skiff]

cocaine

[keen lake]

Discussion 1 is going wild

[keen lake]

Doing quantum physics for 12 hours is amazing

But I need calculator definitely

[neat lintel]

Why do clean and jerks hurt my thoracic spine?

[glass peak]

Not a physio or an Olympic lifter so I could be way off but that sounds like it could just be a core strength issue

But it is also just a lift that puts a lot of force on your back so it could be a lot of things

[late roost]

am i allowed to ask a physics question in this channels

[jolly junco]

Bad form is always a possibility

You're better off recording a video and going on a gym discord to ask

(Or switching lifts)

[neat lintel]

Yes

hy does anyone know a good competitive programming server?

[neat lintel]

They're all bad

[tulip viper]

what some good music to listen to that helps u stay focused

[neat lintel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vcCJJhq7ntY&list=PL418AB12A48A2E142&index=8

[neat lintel]

My cat is eating flies, should i be concerned?

[tawdry mantle]

Nah

[jolly junco]

oh you already joined nice @neat lintel

[alpine comet]

searching for server links on Codeforces

I remember there are quite a few

[tulip viper]

I CANT FUCKING FOCUS

😭😭😭

i’m a night owl man

[neat lintel]

You're studying math?

[tulip viper]

yea

during day time i just can’t work idk

like i try

it works for like

10 mins

then stops

[neat lintel]

can't work?

Like solving problems or reading book?

[tulip viper]

both

[tulip viper]

i mean study

[gleaming verge]

How can I apply what i've learned in math? Like (for example) I go online and learn about linear algebra and read books about mathematical proofs and logic but never use them, I'm too young and inexperienced to get a job that makes me do math every day but I really want to use what I've learned

[neat lintel]

This is an open problem mathematics are still trying to solve

[gleaming verge]

alright then, i guess ill just keep learning until i finally get to use what i know

[neat lintel]

computer graphics is one way tho

so is quant trading

[gleaming verge]

I've tried

computer graphics

[tulip viper]

im just going to eat a shit load of food

[gleaming verge]

Many times to no success, maybe i'm aiming too high by tring to make engines with Vulkan or OpenGl

[neat lintel]

You'll fall into a food coma. You wont be able to study if that happens

[tulip viper]

it just feels so tideous when i just focus

[tulip viper]

true

[neat lintel]

Yeah, thats kinda crazy

I tried that as well... It takes way too many fucking lines to draw a triangle

vulkan in rust takes like 500-600 for a triangle, its crazy

[gleaming verge]

Do you know what could be simpler?

Like something to ease in to it

[neat lintel]

Idk

When i was doing it in rust I just used winit and softbuffer.

Winit to create a window, and softbuffer to draw to it using an array of pixels

Was able to do most things without having to worry about everything the GPU does

There's SDL2/3 which makes doing graphics easy. I think its available for any language

[gleaming verge]

To be honest I think game dev is my best bet, it's something i find interesting and i can use what i've learned to make things that i can then play

but the one qualm with game dev is level design

[dense matrix]

do you mean perspective projection or like actually going further

[dense matrix]

like building meshes colors and then raytracing

[tulip viper]

imma overdose on water

[gleaming verge]

By no success i mean i start another project and forget about those because the tutorials are long and boring to me

The concepts are by no means too difficult to understand and implement

It's just that by the time i get to the part where they do that, I've already lost so much motivation to work on it because I've been copying code to make window classes and such for many hours

[sudden pecan]

I want like someone who would volunteer to help me with my 16 question dynamics hw because I got alot of other subjects to focus on

It's like a 16 question dynamics hw abt thrust , anyone up to help me with that? Pls

[rigid lion]

@lost linden #help-5 message

If you're still interested, you could do

[fathom swallow]

Mikkel Angelo

[lost linden]

interesting

it seems computationally more expensive than an if statement though

[bitter girder]

hello does someone know encoder or decoder?

[vast wraith]

never heard of her

[zealous garden]

Game dev sounds fun huh?

[zealous garden]

What stops you, I also struggle despite my interest

[zealous garden]

Oh here you are explaining exactly my problem

They want to give me a recipe instead of arming me with enough knowledge to determine a good recipe from scratch

Which I understand may be because of the breadth and depth of knowledge that it requires. Idk if that is the reason but idc either way

[gleaming verge]

Regardless of if i apply what i learn, i just like learning math

whether someone is better than me, whether i learn it wrong, whether it takes me a year to finish a book, idc i like it

[solar bronze]

Are there conditions in which differentiating f, solving for inverse of f', and then integrating again wouldn't hold for computing the inverse of f?

[leaden torrent]

...almost always?

like have you tried this on an example

like youre trying to solve [f^{-1} = \int (f')^{-1}] right?

[fathom swallow]

Namington

[leaden torrent]

in other words, you want [(f^{-1})' = (f')^{-1}] up to a constant, i.e. when do derivative and inverse commute

[fathom swallow]

Namington

[leaden torrent]

to solve this, it might be useful to know the fact [(f^{-1})'(x) = \frac{1}{f'(f^{-1}(x))}] for nonzero values

[fathom swallow]

Namington

[leaden torrent]

in other words, you want $(f')^{-1} = \frac{1}{f' \circ f^{-1}}$ which is an ODE problem

[fathom swallow]

Namington

[leaden torrent]

(and one that AFAICT does not have nice solutions)

[tawdry mantle]

Would it be a sufficient explanation to say that a system of linear equations cannot have 2 solutions because the solutions represent an intersection at either one point (one solution), a line/plane (infinite solutions) or no intersection at all (no solution)?

[rocky galleon]

you know what they say trust ur heart feeling🥰🙏

[tawdry mantle]

💀

Fr

[leaden torrent]

this feels like saying "a system cannot have 2 solutions because it cannot have 2 solutions" to me

idk what standard of rigour your course requires

but i would not consider this a formal proof

[tawdry mantle]

Freshman year linear algebra but I can’t think of anything else

Undergrad

[leaden torrent]

heres a hint: suppose you have a system $Ax = b$ with two distinct solutions $u, v$

[fathom swallow]

Namington

[leaden torrent]

so $Au = Av = b$

[fathom swallow]

Namington

[leaden torrent]

note that $b = \frac{b+b}{2}$

[fathom swallow]

Namington

[leaden torrent]

and therefore $b = \frac{b+b}{2} = \frac{Au + Av}{2}$

[fathom swallow]

Namington

[leaden torrent]

can you use this to conclude the existence of a third solution, not equal to u or v?

[tawdry mantle]

I don’t think so 👀

[leaden torrent]

$\frac{Au + Av}{2} = A\left(\frac{u+v}{2}\right) = b$

[fathom swallow]

Namington

[leaden torrent]

does writing it like this help?

[tawdry mantle]

So you’re asking if I can state whether something like Aw=b exists with the equation you gave

[leaden torrent]

where w isn't equal to u or v, yes

the point of the strategy is that we're trying to show, if you have at least 2 solutions, you can find a third solution

[hazy tapir]

can anyone help me with matrix?

[leaden torrent]

(and you can repeat this process arbitrarily to argue you can find infinitely many solutions)

in other words, its impossible to have exactly 2 solutions

[tawdry mantle]

Ohhh

Emphasis on exactly really helped

Thank you 🙏

[ocean harbor]

#linear-algebra or help channels

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1112022027847606383.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=catcombing

[dawn oasis]

Can anyone here create websites?

[ocean harbor]

you called

what kind of website

[neat lintel]

Does a neocities site count?

[dawn oasis]

I have a template but idk how to create a website with it 😭

[dawn oasis]

What’s that?

Geez I’m too dumb for my own good

😭

[ocean harbor]

are you familiar with html and css?

react could work too

[dawn oasis]

Yes a little

[dawn oasis]

Wdym?

[ocean harbor]

there's another language called react

[dawn oasis]

Ohh

I see

[ocean harbor]

I can help you with website if possible owo

although it's almost 5am for me

[dawn oasis]

Onggg

I think you need sleep more lol

[ocean harbor]

yea I'm trying lmfao

[dawn oasis]

Anyways lmk when it’s morning for you or when you can actually help

I can wait….

[ocean harbor]

ye sure

just hmu on dms

[dawn oasis]

Okayy thanksssss

🥰

[dusty moth]

Hello

How's it going bishes

[rocky galleon]

its going very skibidi thanks for asking🥰🙏

[dusty moth]

Im very sorry you are feeling skibidi in this fine day

[rocky galleon]

its all well sir at least im not fanum taxxed by baby gronk🥰

[dusty moth]

May I introduce you to grass?

[rocky galleon]

of course who is this grass person🤔

[dusty moth]

Its a mystical being

It can only be found in a mythical place called outside

Legends say that those who went outside never came back (my dad)

😏

[rocky galleon]

oh ive already grassmaxxed🥰🙏

[rocky galleon]

your dad just went to see how far the skibidi toilet goes🥰🙏

[dusty moth]

You "you are my specialz" grass?

[dusty moth]

He followed what his forefathers did

[rocky galleon]

sir i dont understand what you mean🤔

[dusty moth]

Tsk tsk tsk

Still uncultured i see

[rocky galleon]

They are cyclemaxing😔

[dusty moth]

They are

They are rad people

[rocky galleon]

you should uncyclemax🥳

[dusty moth]

Ah uncle

One of my worst enemies

[rocky galleon]

oh!

how so🤔

[dusty moth]

He jujutsu'd the kaisen

[rocky galleon]

Is this a metahpor🤔📝

[dusty moth]

Its the metaphor

Not big into anime are ya?

[rocky galleon]

noo i havent weebmaxxed😔💯

[dusty moth]

Sadge

[dense matrix]

gyat

[dusty moth]

Gyat indeed gyat indeed

Speaking of gyats

[dense matrix]

I gyatt for maths

[dusty moth]

Actually nvm

💀

[rocky galleon]

Think of it postive u weeb mogged me😁

[dusty moth]

Oh

Thats nice

[rocky galleon]

indeed💯

[dense matrix]

do you guys actually study maths?

I'm the ultimate mogger of maths

[dusty moth]

I love mathematics

I will give up my first born for it

Like dropkick give up

[dense matrix]

I'm doing diff geo

[livid crane]

I am in grade 11 and my school teach us things other countries do in grade 9🤣☠

[dusty moth]

Damn

[rocky galleon]

5+5=10 hope that helped🥰

[dusty moth]

Gotta keep that knowledge up to date

[livid crane]

Bruh idk how to☠

[dusty moth]

Where helper role? Server missing out

[neat lintel]

What did thr bone thing mean

[rocky galleon]

i had to give the others a chance🙄

[rocky galleon]

give it a rest😭🙏

[dusty moth]

Hey man you are smart

[livid crane]

What grade did yall start doing Calculus

[dusty moth]

Quite humble

[rocky galleon]

kindergarden🥰

[dense matrix]

like I'm 11th now, so 9th grade

[dusty moth]

Womb

[dense matrix]

after 2 years almost I'm doing now diff. geo.

[livid crane]

Aight so I am done

[dense matrix]

All the things I did were; precalc, calculus I,II,III, Vector calculus, Complex numbers, Real analysis , linear algebra, tensor algebra, functional analysis(taylor seriues, fourier series, transform, laplace transform) ODE theory, PDE theory (little bits), general topology, differential geometry, algebraic topology, reinmannian geometry

[dusty moth]

Sameeeee

[livid crane]

Wtf

[dense matrix]

Ye you can grind these in 2 years but you have to study a lot

[livid crane]

So ur in grade 11?

[dense matrix]

Yes

• I studied physics

Like QM I, mecahnics applied to machines, Fluid mechanics, solid mechanics

and all these courses require just all the maths I cited except the last 4 points

[livid crane]

No way bruh I am still doing how yo find x in grade 11

[dense matrix]

idk I'm a tryhard

[livid crane]

Which channel or book did u use

[dusty moth]

Lobotomy kaisen maths

That wouldn't let you down

[glass peak]

Functional analysis isn’t Taylor or Fourier series, Taylor series are just like basic analysis and Fourier stuff is much more harmonic analysis. Functional is about normed vector spaces and linear operators etc

Also how are you almost doing diff geo if you’ve already done differential geometry and riemannian geometry lmao

[dusty moth]

Nope why do you cook?

[dense matrix]

oh my bad

I always thought the opposite

[dense matrix]

almost doing?

[glass peak]

I mean you can definitely look at like Fourier transforms and stuff through the lense of funcanal but Taylor series’s etc aren’t functional analysis

[glass peak]

Yeah you said you’re almost ready to learn it then claimed you already did it lol

[dense matrix]

I agree, well in general there's a work on functions on them

[dense matrix]

When did I say it

today or a month ago?

[dusty moth]

Oooh interrogation going on

[dense matrix]

Yes

[glass peak]

Ah I misread, you said you’re now doing it

[dense matrix]

I think I told you I wanted to do it a few months ago

Well I actualyl took general topology lol

[glass peak]

Either way, I’m still confused, you said you’ve learned all of these topics? How do you learn riemannian geometry before diffgeo lol

[dense matrix]

Never told

.

Reinmannian geometry should be done after dif geom

It just studies diff. manifolds with a metric defined locally or globally

[glass peak]

I know what Riemmanian geometry is

[cursive token]

You seriously need to correct your spellchecker

[glass peak]

Lmao

[dense matrix]

lol

oh I remember that bit

I was doing idff. geo for the first time

and was thinking of deifing the metric tensor on spherical coordinates

but like with a transition map lol

in the sam emanifold

so basically I was thinking of deifing spherical coordinates metric tensor through a transition map on the same manifold lol

Actually it would be almost correct since it should be a diff. application from R^n to R^n and you would get the same thing

[dense matrix]

not thorugh a diffeomorh. beetween manifolds

[dusty moth]

So who won?

[dense matrix]

nobody

he was checking I was not lying or in dunnning kruger

because it happens

[dusty moth]

Damn it was a tie

[minor current]

Dunning what

Why would you be lying about math

[dense matrix]

maybe I really didn't knew the topics

[dense matrix]

There are people who think they are the best in maths when they actually didn't study the topics, it's called dunnning-kruger effect or placebo effect

[minor current]

Im just starting out but there is a lot of smart people here or in mathstackexchange you can ask, but best to be upfront about some info so people know what to explain and what not to

[minor current]

Isnt like dunning Krueger a widely misused concept most of the time?

[dense matrix]

It's liek the peak mount stupid thing

Just to tell when there's a placebo, which means you think something is true by istinct, when it's not

[dense matrix]

Example; there's an active user on yt that things to have proven a mathematical problem by using an approximation algorithm

It was the uniq. and exist. of navier stokes eq., he was using FDM..., and he wans't able to do an integral

[ripe needle]

Dunning-Kruger effect = overestimating your abilities, both because of cognitive bias and not knowing what you don't know.

Placebo effect = Taking a treatment that scientifically has no effect on you, but you believe it does anyway (and feel better for it)

[dusty moth]

Trueee

[dense matrix]

Yes I meant that basically

[dusty moth]

That's placebo

[ripe needle]

Honorary Mention

Imposter Syndrome = Doubting your own abilities even though they're adequate

[old oak]

On the other hand sometimes you just are inadequate

[dusty moth]

Well looks like i have imposter syndrome😏

[ripe needle]

I was just thinking, there has to be an intersection lol

Doubting your abilities even though you believe they're adequate (when they really aren't)

Dunning-Kruger Imposter Syndrome Effect

[dense matrix]

I'm the most suspicious here because I'm in 11-th grade 💀

[ripe needle]

Imposter syndrome is everywhere but I see it the worst in Math/CS communities.

While imposter syndrome exists in Medicine, there's many recognized divisions in levels of medicine, for example nurses and physicians, then even within physicians, such as general surgery vs neurosurgery vs pediatric neurosurgery.

However we all just do "math" and everyone's a "software engineer" and there's always someone better, making one feel stupid often.

[minor current]

Yes

[dense matrix]

I would suspect someone who is in 11-th grade as well

tehre was a dude solivng a gaussian integral, and he actually changed the problem to make it easier

with 1 -year less than me

[ripe needle]

There's literal 14-year-olds in this server doing graduate level math. Then you have people in their 30s and 40s studying math for the first time.

This is a cursed blessed place

[dense matrix]

idk ego is important as well but should be kept in control, we all have a big potential

[minor current]

Indeed

[dense matrix]

I try to be in equilibrium with subjects

and not exagerate on a specific topic

Because I study a bit of engineering too

[visual breach]

How come I've never seen 40s just beginning math

[ripe needle]

Not many 40s hang out in discussy lol

[visual breach]

Oh

[dense matrix]

what about 14's

whats their graduate topics

[ripe needle]

Also I'm not in my 40s but I'm a late starter and it's already... difficult doing a mid-career change to a brand new field. I couldn't imagine being even more established in a field. I've talked to some people in their 40s and 50s who always wanted to do xyz and they're just like why change careers now, it's too late.

[ripe needle]

Hang out in Discussion and ask

[ripe needle]

They're all asleep right now though, they'll be on in like 8 hours

[dense matrix]

thanks ok

[visual breach]

Awwww, that's sad

[unborn lava]

wait a sec

this is actually deep

im 14

[dense matrix]

xd

are you asleep??

[unborn lava]

no

[dense matrix]

what are your topics?

[unborn lava]

busy rn so wait

ok

[dense matrix]

If I had to choose I would choose diff. geo

because it connects a lot of topics

at once

[unborn lava]

mine is probably diff and int i think

[dense matrix]

int?

[unborn lava]

integral

[dense matrix]

wdym

[hushed kite]

Hello

[ripe needle]

...so Calculus?

[dense matrix]

I like integrals on manifolds lol

[hushed kite]

Pretty much

[unborn lava]

yeah

not much advanced calculus

[ripe needle]

It gets better/worse in like 10 math classes past that

[unborn lava]

but it’s deceeent

[dense matrix]

look I?m integrating over R^3, a differnetiable manifold of class C^inf with maximal atlas........

Imagine stating all of the formalities of diff. geom before integrating, on R^n

[dense matrix]

I don't think he's graduate

[ripe needle]

No that's HS level, like Calc 2

[ripe needle]

[dense matrix]

That was a joke

[dense matrix]

ye like hte volume form

and like imagine saying; divergence of B, well exteriorderivative on the 1-form because there's an isomorphism given by the metric with covectors and vectors

[dusty moth]

That is a beautiful sentence

[dense matrix]

trivial

[sharp hearth]

I know someone who genuinely found vector calculus (curl, divergence, etc.) until he read about the general Stokes theorem, and then it all clicked.

[dense matrix]

how? shouldn't he do the co-homology rahm

how could he understand lol

[sharp hearth]

Yes, he learnt de Rham cohomology along the way.

[dense matrix]

oh ok

I'm doing the topic btw I'm new to it

I found out yesterday all of this(just 1-forms isomorphic to vectors etc)

[dense matrix]

you mean he found vec calculus difficult until?

[sharp hearth]

Yes, that's what I said.

I think the problem for him is that the definitions of curl and divergence in Cartesian coordinates were treated as God-given. But they're actually intrinsically tied to the Euclidean metric and the corresponding Hodge star operator.

But what had been done in calculus until then didn't depend so much on the Euclidean metric.

The reason why this is problematic is that, very often, vector calculus problems are easier to solve in polar or spherical coordinates, where the gradient, curl and divergence have different expressions from the ones in Cartesian coordinates. But, if your definition of gradient, curl and divergence is the Cartesian expressions, then you will have a hard time realizing this.

[neat lintel]

so super sigma

[naive egret]

anyone in here dutch?

cause i only have my questions in dutch and otherwise i need to translate everything

[solid yarrow]

!help

[quasi jetty]

To ask for mathematics help on this server, please open your own help channel or help thread. See #❓how-to-get-help for instructions.

[neat lintel]

@latent edge your project's main menu looks weird on phone

Just wanted to tell yk

[solar bronze]

No, moreso as an intermediate step in solving for the inverse of something else where some $f$ has no known inverse, but $f'$ does, so my idea is to compute the inverse of $f'$ and integrate this inverse, then exploit the relation of area of inverse to the area of the inverse of the inverse to compute the inverse of $f$.

[fathom swallow]

Andrew Porter

[solar bronze]

Seems like the identity you gave, however, relating the derivative of $f$ inverse to the derivative of $f$ composed with the inverse of $f$ conveniently provides some way forward potentially.

[fathom swallow]

Andrew Porter

[neat lintel]

まーかまわないけど

[dusty moth]

Are yall mewing

[dusty moth]

気にしないから気にしないのか、気にしないから気にしないのか

[solar bronze]

Consider, for example, solving for the inverse of $x - \arcsin(x)$.

[fathom swallow]

Andrew Porter

[latent edge]

I'm aware of that. Thank you btw

[latent edge]

Then why bother telling me if you don't care lol

[neat lintel]

[icy locust]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YsXCVsDFiXA&t=3606 did I find a quotient group explainer

[glass peak]

Shortest SM64 video

[ocean harbor]

@dawn oasis hello good morning, I thought you already dmed me but I've gotten two ads dms instead

[dusty moth]

Is it from that one guy inviting to their server with like 7 paragraphs?

[ocean harbor]

yeah

[dusty moth]

Yeah i got it too

Joined the server in a heartbeat

[ocean harbor]

lmfao

[dusty moth]

Wait you didn't?

[ocean harbor]

nope lol

they might scam you

I just blocked instead

[dusty moth]

Oh

Well if i suddenly start giving free nitro y'all know why

[latent edge]

You won't

[ocean harbor]

you don't even have nitro

[dusty moth]

Isn't that what hacked people do?

"omg free nitro" and then a very shady link

[dusty moth]

Thanks for pointing out : 🫂

[ocean harbor]

they sometimes do steam scan as well

[dusty moth]

Ah i did that when i got hacked

[ocean harbor]

you're welcome 🫂

[dusty moth]

Wait

Do you have nitro

[ocean harbor]

no

[dusty moth]

Ha

[ocean harbor]

I had before

[dusty moth]

As did i

[ocean harbor]

cool cool

[dusty moth]

Good times

It was back when epic games gave one

[ocean harbor]

anyway those scam people only dm the active users

[dusty moth]

I had to beg for people to give me their credit card info

[dusty moth]

I will take that as a compliment ty

[ocean harbor]

yw

[ocean harbor]

I got it with some friends

[dusty moth]

Yearly?

[ocean harbor]

yeah

but they've cancelled cuz you have to pay $19.99 every month lol

[dusty moth]

I might be wrong here but isn't that for a year

[dusty moth]

Trueeeee utilize free nitro

Or go to chess servers with girly pfps

Ask a really rich pervert to play chess on the condition that if u win they will buy you nitro

And boom

[ocean harbor]

nah i just find some simp ppl for me instead

but I guess it is no longer available

[dusty moth]

Thats the specs for being a girl

No longer?

[ocean harbor]

yeah i dont need it lol

[dusty moth]

I do tho

😏

[ocean harbor]

go for it idc

I also made my own money so might buy later

[dusty moth]

I will tyvm

[ocean harbor]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1112022027847606383.gif?size=48&quality=lossless&name=catcombing

yeah gl with that

[dusty moth]

Ty i might make money by selling ai art

Apparently people buy those

[ocean harbor]

lmfao

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/952271935620915225/1208218967047671818/1207362145948409906.gif

[dusty moth]

So if u wanna see a specific anime chara doing specific stuff lmk

Only 5$

[ocean harbor]

do me kokichi ouma

[dusty moth]

😏

The hell is that?

[ocean harbor]

have you seen my art?

[ocean harbor]

google it

[neat lintel]

bro my mom did this, and the drawing was so goofy

[dusty moth]

Oh yes you are an abstract artist are you not

[dusty moth]

What? Bought ai art?

[ocean harbor]

I am

[neat lintel]

yes

[ocean harbor]

but haven't done these in ages

[neat lintel]

They bought AI art of our dogs that came in a picture frame then hung it on the wall

[dusty moth]

I googled cool character

[ocean harbor]

indeed

[dusty moth]

Wait i might be wrong here but why ai art of your dogs?

What happened to em irl?

Oh wait you sold the picture?

[ocean harbor]

you should often check #1192929131407626402 owo

[dusty moth]

Yeah people with actual drawing talent are there

Wait

I made an art i will post it tjere

[ocean harbor]

#1192929131407626402 message here's my stuff I guess

I only have these saved

[dusty moth]

Aight check out mine

[dusty moth]

Saw your stuff, it's pretty good

[ocean harbor]

thank

[surreal bison]

@fresh comet

so i guess the heavy object analogy no worky

Imagine something with more steady visible progress than the slippery worm

Like with the worm occasionally you gain an inch on it

Before finally restraining it

[fresh comet]

hmm

that makes some more sense to me

[neat lintel]

Im here to learn the required mathematics for physics

[gilded spindle]

.

[neat lintel]

what type of physics?

[dawn oasis]

Hihi sorry I went to sleep…anyways are you free rn? Can I dm you now?

[ocean harbor]

you may

but i am somewhat free rn

[gleaming verge]

what would yall say is better for self study, a physical textbook or an online one like openstax or pauls online notes?

[fresh comet]

depends entirely on the person.

[scarlet lark]

me: all of the above.

[weak fulcrum]

Why a second one

[gleaming verge]

i guess you're right

[scarlet lark]

mer? second what?

[weak fulcrum]

Discussion channel

[weak fulcrum]

Physical

[gleaming verge]

cause 2 conversations at same time maybe

[scarlet lark]

I can hit you a similar question, why not a third discussion?

[gleaming verge]

cause 2 is the magic number

[weak fulcrum]

Cause 2 to many

[scarlet lark]

[weak fulcrum]

As people say

[gleaming verge]

so 0?

[neat lintel]

I prefer online textbooks because I don’t have to carry them around

[weak fulcrum]

1

[gleaming verge]

nah, i intentionally misread it as 2 too many

[weak fulcrum]

I lost brain cells from reading that

[gleaming verge]

go find them

[weak fulcrum]

Lost in as they died

Lost=dead

[gleaming verge]

Just res

[gleaming verge]

Being in front of a computer and working is very difficult for me

[neat lintel]

I write on an iPad

[gleaming verge]

I dont have

[weak fulcrum]

Ur right

Btw this server has moderators?

[gleaming verge]

Yup

[weak fulcrum]

I know they don’t sleep

[gleaming verge]

how can you be sure?

[weak fulcrum]

The amount of people always online

[gleaming verge]

Makes sense

[ocean harbor]

they do

depends on timezones

[neat lintel]

Dynamics?

[weak fulcrum]

I was using an exaggeration

[dusty moth]

Hello bwishes

[ocean harbor]

goober

[tender tulip]

korby

[fresh comet]

politely, I’m gonna ask that you don’t do this

it’s a bit creepy

and pretty weird to do

don’t ask people where they’re from, that’s all

no need to apologize haha

I’m just letting you know

[zinc dock]

Getting real tired of Windows anti-trust updates
I'm feeling motivated to finally try to debug the version of arch on my system that doesn't make it past the login screen

Somehow

[flat harbor]

ditch windows

never been a better time to ditch propertirithty sfofkfftw

[brazen mulch]

backwards compatibility

[zinc dock]

True I'm just too lazy/uninformed on how to debug my arch

[rocky shuttle]

does it have to be arch?

[old oak]

surely this is the year of Linux on the desktop

[zinc dock]

Do I know you from somewhere

[rocky shuttle]

from mathcord, probably

[zinc dock]

Are you in a cpp server by chance

[flat harbor]

u just need two days of googling on ur phone

[zealous garden]

Use Artix instead

[flat harbor]

mac is declining. arch users on the rise

[rocky shuttle]

i am, but only recently, you wouldn't know me from that server

i only joined to see qylo struggling with pointers

[zinc dock]

True
But searching "sddm hyprland login screen turns black on correct password" is very long and overspecific ⇒ probably 0 results

[zinc dock]

O

[zinc dock]

And anything else will probably get a different problem

Ill do it later sometime someday

[flat harbor]

ud be surprised

[zealous garden]

Not at all

Probably a couple thousand

[zinc dock]

[zealous garden]

Not to be presumptive, have you attempted to rtfm

Oh yeah actually

I think my SDDM does that sometimes

[zinc dock]

I have no idea what that is

[zealous garden]

I just ctrl+alt+F3 to a different TTY, restart the service, and go back

[zealous garden]

rtfm=Read The Fucking Manual

Archwiki, manpages

Doesn't solve all problems but many

[zinc dock]

There comes a point i have yet to cross where you have enough baseline knowledge to know what to look up in the manual

[zealous garden]

The sequence I usually use is like

Ctrl+Alt+F3
username
password
sudo rc-service sddm restart
exit
Ctrl+Alt+F7

Or smth

[zealous garden]

What distro are you using?

[zealous garden]

I use Artix with OpenRC, strong chance this exact sequence won't cut it for you

And if you managed to setup Artix, then you have enough knowledge to rtfm

[zinc dock]

Id need to double check

[zinc dock]

I dont know what i expected but it just says arch linux

[zealous garden]

If you installed arch you should be able to read the manuals

[zinc dock]

Fair enough

Its 4am tho so thats a tomorrow job

[dusty moth]

Hello math enjoyers

[earnest orbit]

Hello there

[dusty moth]

Are you enjoying the hit subject mathematics

[earnest orbit]

yes

wby

[dapper relic]

read the friendly manual? :D

[dapper relic]

theres always debugging from log files as a final resort

[vernal token]

@unkempt marsh you should re-ask your question, the channel timed out

[zinc dock]

Seems to be about that point

[rocky galleon]

nu är vi inte här🔥

[vast wraith]

verkligt

[karmic lodge]

hello

[flat kindle]

Did you all do NWEA MAP?

[haughty bear]

Do you know organic chemistry tutor

[true willow]

If i have 5 cookies and I divide it among 1 person, that 1 person gets 5 cookies, 5/1=5. If I do 5/0 there's 0 people to give cookies, therefore my answer is 0, but I still have 5 cookies, so my actual answer is 0 with a remainder of 5

i'm just kidding idk what the fuck i'm talking about

[rocky shuttle]

If I have 5 cookies and I divide it among 1/2 person, then that 1/2 person gets 10 cookies, 5/(1/2) = 10.

[fresh comet]

if I have 5 cookies and eat them all, I have no cookies.

then I am a very sad person

[rocky shuttle]

sad but full

[rocky galleon]

A person who thinks all the time has nothing to think about except thoughts🤔

[fresh comet]

but my cookie jar is empty!

how can I live like this

moral of the story: don't eat your cookies or else you will be sad forever

[rocky shuttle]

until you bake new cookies

[fresh comet]

if you wish to bake new cookies from scratch, you must first invent the universe

[rocky shuttle]

i'm one click away from inventing a new universe

[fresh comet]

I cannot tell if you got the reference or not

hmm

well, please invent some new universes for me

[rocky shuttle]

I cannot tell if you got the reference or not either

[fresh comet]

so I can have my cookies back

[fresh comet]

I did not

I assume you got mine then?

[rocky shuttle]

If the word click doesn't click, then you did not

[fresh comet]

it did not, so I did not

[rocky shuttle]

Then I did not get yours either

[fresh comet]

well, then is a weird interaction then

[rocky shuttle]

I was referring to cookie clicker

[fresh comet]

oh

why didn't I think about that

I've played cookie clicker a ton

LOL

"If you wish to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first invent the universe" - Carl Sagan

cookie clicker took this too literally I suppose

[true willow]

in conclusion

5/0 = 0 remainder 5

(jk)

[north topaz]

He was also heavy into Minecraft, though he was annoyed because he was having trouble updating his hacks. Once, he said, he and a friend tried to hack math itself by proving that 1 equals 0, but then realized that it is forbidden to divide by 0. Tao rolled his eyes.

https://archive.is/81xXJ#selection-1863.571-1863.837

[old oak]

• "You can't divide by 0"
• "Well, not with that attitude"

[alpine kindle]

you can try, but you'll make any mathematicians roll their eyes
you don't want to get into that kind of spin
especially when it'll cause you to make a lot of circular arguments
and even if you can do it rigorously, your results won't wheely be that interesting

[thick yacht]

I hope he's playing on a server that allows hacks.

[old oak]

Every server allows hacks if you're good enough

[tawdry pecan]

owl

[old oak]

where?

[tawdry pecan]

Somewhere around here

Might be multiple

[raven plaza]

Why is owl be jumpscary

[old oak]

Well, they are predators

That one is probably dead by now, it's one of the first internet memes

Before we even had the word "meme"

I mean that silly old man was probably already using it in his works, but it hadn't penetrated to anywhere near the current extent

The heady days of orly, badgerbadgerbadger and goatse

(do not look up goatse if you don't know what it is)

[scarlet lark]

He was playing on the 2b2t server.

[north topaz]

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/2b2t_Nocom_Overworld_Heatmap.png/220px-2b2t_Nocom_Overworld_Heatmap.png

2b2t heat map

[scarlet lark]

"They know, where you are, and where your mother has been"

[thick yacht]

Well, that is appropriate and it's the center of innovation in hacking Minecraft.

[glass peak]

That’s a throw back

[old oak]

That's one of the things you might call it, yes

[glass peak]

I’m not sure it’s something I wanted to remeber but hey, now I do

[old oak]

One of my favourite conspiracy theories is that it inspired the design for the Nokia N-Gage

[tawdry pecan]

[old oak]

Can't unsee it, can you

[sonic sentinel]

an idea of people that are somehow bigger than some infinite cardinals popped into my mind

and i realized if space is continuous, we are those people

[vivid halo]

[frigid basalt]

guys I need some one who has a math degree to discuss with me a property of parabola pls and thank you!

[sonic sentinel]

what kinda parabola is bro analyzing

[wise kiln]

who is that pokemon

https://tenor.com/view/pokemon-anime-pikachu-whos-that-pokemon-gif-1594688352208299494

[wise kiln]

what property

i have 90 math degrees

[frigid basalt]

lol

[wise kiln]

https://tenor.com/view/triangle-angle-gif-10743369415557862298

i really tried finding a 90 degree triangle gif

so 90 math degrees

[old oak]

I'm more of an obtuse mathematician

[surreal bison]

"degrees" you must be deranged

surely you mean radians

[keen sinew]

Hello chat

[cunning loom]

could anybody hop on a call with me and explain to me these geometry questions, im in online school and i need help

[wise kiln]

i meant gradians

[old oak]

That is deranged

[ocean harbor]

has anyone read the book called "the little prince" before

[fresh comet]

no but I've heard

[old oak]

Literally decades ago

I mostly remember the drunk

My role model

[ocean harbor]

I have to write an essay for it and make connections with movie called "The martian" and I have no clue lmao

[fresh comet]

[old oak]

I mean, I don't know the movie

I hope it also has the drunk

[fresh comet]

me neither

then again, I don't really watch movies at all

[ocean harbor]

I don't think the little prince had something related for "drunk"

gotta use gpt and move on lol

wait it is actually has drunk

[old oak]

Yes, I genuinely read the book and I genuinely remember that bit

[ocean harbor]

I see

I have seen the movie and it was good

[vast wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/loading-screen-cat-gif-18391018

me processing what might be the difference

[old oak]

Also I've looked up the plot synopsis sand I genuinely remembered pretty much just the bit about the drunk and about the snake/elephant/hat drawing

I remembered there was a rose but I didn't remember what was with her

[ocean harbor]

yeah rose was his flower

little prince was caring for her

[vast wraith]

between genuinely read & genuinely remember, genuinely read & remember, read & genuinely remember, and just read and remember

[buoyant hollow]

@neat lintel nah bro

no skill in gd

[neat lintel]

nvm

ur one of those people

im not gonna argue with u

[buoyant hollow]

How is gd a game of skill

[neat lintel]

muscle memory, hand eye coordination, precise movement?

its like saying fps games arent skill

[buoyant hollow]

anybody can do that

just play over and over

you don't use your brain or anything

[neat lintel]

isnt it the point to practice any game?

[buoyant hollow]

fps games have strategies

unexpected times where you have to use ur brain

[neat lintel]

same here, you have to learn patterns and sight read

[buoyant hollow]

sight read?

[neat lintel]

yes

when you reach a part of the level you don't know

[buoyant hollow]

you don't need to sight read if you have played the same lvl 50k times

[neat lintel]

thats the whole point of flukes

[buoyant hollow]

practice gamemode

[neat lintel]

most tops don't abuse practice

[buoyant hollow]

learning patterns isn't using your brain

you turn off your brain for that lol

[neat lintel]

people fluke a level from 18%

[buoyant hollow]

i'd like to see a fluke of slaughter house

[neat lintel]

i belive someone did it from 60

[buoyant hollow]

1

[neat lintel]

slaugtherhouse is not that hard for top players now

its 7

tidal wave is much, much harder

[buoyant hollow]

7th is still hard

[neat lintel]

have you seen top 3?

[buoyant hollow]

i dont need to

[neat lintel]

all of them are notorious

[buoyant hollow]

i stopped following gd stuff

because it got repetitive

[neat lintel]

acheron kept its #1 position for 9 months, avernus is notorious for having the most frame perfects in a top 10, and tidal wave is #1 rn and has the longest playing time out of all levels

they are all extremely hard

[buoyant hollow]

whats the correlation

[neat lintel]

what are frame perfects

tell me

[buoyant hollow]

bro

you basically said it

frame perfects are inputs you need to make perfectly and they only have 1 frame margin of error

[neat lintel]

yes

[buoyant hollow]

and it changes with 60hz and 144hz

or is it 120 i dont remember

[neat lintel]

imagine doing 20-30 of those while going through really difficult gameplay

isnt that really hard to do?

[buoyant hollow]

just play 100K times

[neat lintel]

you have to learn frame perfects

[fresh comet]

yeah. Slaughterhouse was beaten 3x in a row recently

crazy stuff

[buoyant hollow]

muscle memory

[neat lintel]

you cant mindlessley play for 100k attempts and get 20-30 frame perfects in one level

[neat lintel]

by a 14 yr old, no less

[buoyant hollow]

yes you can you'll eventually reach it

[fresh comet]

I know who wpopoff is

[neat lintel]

i understand

im trying to prove a point

to this guy

[fresh comet]

been following him since be beat slh the first time

[buoyant hollow]

14 yr olds have so much time bro

[fresh comet]

I see

[neat lintel]

saying that gd is noskill

[fresh comet]

GD definitely takes skill

[neat lintel]

im 15, don't really have much time to practice levels like those

he has school yk

[fresh comet]

if it didn't, I'd have beaten TW by now lol