sec 1.2 lol barely
#serious-discussion
naive lake
Leaving because of the new picture
glass peak
Good
vocal vessel
Leaving because of the new picture
Byeeee
fair zealot
I have no ideas what the hint is about. I can’t solve nonstandard puzzles these days. 
wild lantern
Clearly they're mad because the donut is gone.
fair zealot
Yep.
I mean it’s always been there and it’s amazing that it’s always been there.
fleet saddle
What happened to the server pfp
vocal vessel
The Torus was stolen
fleet saddle
:(
fleet saddle
:)
hardy python
Hey guys! I recently created a YouTube video and would really appreciate some feedback on it. Here's the link: https://youtu.be/Q2p4prE7PAQ Thank you!
It's about 0^0
vocal vessel
<@&268886789983436800> this persons spamming multiple channels advertising.
robust escarp
that icon aint april fools its april's W
fleet saddle
that icon aint april fools its april's W
nah
plain island
<@&268886789983436800> this persons spamming multiple channels advertising.
i only see one link posted in the last week?
one message even
opaque pecan
whats with the transgender thing
hardy python
i posted it like 3 times
opaque pecan
is it an april fools?
hardy python
bcs the link wasn't embedding or something
vocal vessel
one message even
vocal vessel
is it an april fools?
No it’s always been there.
plain island
https://discord.com/channels/268882317391429632/268882317391429632/1224414630777...
oh discord search is dumb
crisp seal
is it an april fools?
people are reacting like fools
neat lintel
is it an april fools?
no
ocean harbor
helo dani
vernal token
hello discussy
Is the Game is Afoot role automatically removed afterwards?
terse comet
No, but you can just unreact to the message
we will leave the thing up in its entirety for a while
vernal token
Alright
terse comet
so that late comers can enjoy it
vernal token
we will leave the thing up in its entirety for a while
Will there again be a prize for the first places like cloaks?
ocean harbor
no 
neat lintel
no <:opencry:586078614865444865>
famous gamedev
ocean harbor
oh cool
vernal token
there will certainly be something at the end
Who paid last time for the cloaks, did mniip have to buy all of them?
ocean harbor
rocky shuttle
who
rocky shuttle
ocean harbor
neat lintel
clown akira
ocean harbor
near onyx
Bro trolled
compact gulch
yeah i was feeling very naughty and evil today
near onyx
😭
neat lintel
yeah i was feeling very naughty and evil today
you courageous cabbage
you are not fooling anyone
main sonnet
Can i ask why is the server's profile the transgender flag
Official that 2 identifies as 3 and that 2 + 2 = 6 ?
vernal token
Can i ask why is the server's profile the transgender flag
The background has always been, the torus infront of it is now gone because of the arg game
paper snow
anyone here an aspiring data scientist or a real one
unreal sand
anyone here an aspiring data scientist or a real one
well my brother is one but he lives across the ocean 😅
actually idk if it's data scientist
cause he said actuary
hits hard
paper snow
cause he said actuary
i guess that could be one, but i guess i'm looking for less a business-sided answer
blazing summit
Why is there trans flag for math discord server lmao
faint light
oh my god…
trans flag has been there for like a year, the torus in front of it was just removed
crisp seal
because it is also a discord server and one where socialising occurs
In general all the decent discords are left wing and have a lot of lgbt people
blazing summit
First time seeing it, joined a while ago tho
storm sage
It's not part of the April Fools stuff
storm sage
First time seeing it, joined a while ago tho
Yeah it's a bit hard to see unless you actually look at the icon
Anyways it's just a symbol that we're a safe space for people of all sexual orientations and gender identities
faint light
Oh makes sense. Its a safe space for left and lgbtqia+ folks
yep! hope this helps
upbeat pebble
where the clowns at??
ocean harbor
here
fair mural
you'll see some clowns complaining soon enough 
neat lintel
i thought the server got nuked for a bit or something , should've made the icon a little bit more luminous xd
fair mural
yeah it is kinda dark lol
glacial crystal
upper glade
hi chat
rocky shuttle
hi cat
small dust
Anyways it's just a symbol that we're a safe space for people of all sexual orie...
in a math server??? unbelievable
oh i was wondering why this channel was so quiet
it’s discussion-2
deceiving
compact rune
Anyways it's just a symbol that we're a safe space for people of all sexual orie...
Weird to put on aprils fools maybe idk
storm sage
Weird to put on aprils fools maybe idk
Again, we did not put it on april fools
It's been there for around a year lol
storm sage
Idk what to tell you
This isn't even part of the joke
It has literally been here for months
The torus was also rainbow pride-themed
neat lintel
@delicate pilot a vector space has dimension n iff there is a basis of size n for that space. In particular a space has dimension 0 iff the empty set is a basis for it. Such a space has necessarily only one element called 0. And we have 0+0=0 and a*0 = 0 for all elements of the underlying field.
storm sage
Maybe I need new glasses
I mean it's understandable bc the icon is small
and the flag is faint in the background so when we removed the torus it's way more obvious
compact rune
Anyways why a trans flat
storm sage
but I promise you it was there before today lol
storm sage
Yeah they are also all welcome lol but we just picked one flag
There wasn't anything terribly deep behind it
The torus being rainbow is meant to signify all LGBTQ ppl
compact rune
What torus
compact rune
storm sage
See #changelog
rocky shuttle
Does the worm role give access to a secret channel?
storm sage
The torus in front
yea the torus was brighter lol
storm sage
Does the worm role give access to a secret channel?
yea here you go
small dust
Does the worm role give access to a secret channel?
you’re not enzi
rocky shuttle
yea here you go
thanks eric!
storm sage
you’re not enzi
lol
dusky jasper
yea here you go
what ... i wanna be worm ....
delicate pilot
<@281803598533230594> a vector space has dimension n iff there is a basis of siz...
Thanks!
candid veldt
sup, is anyone well versed in the finite element method? I'm working on an implementation for a project but so far it hasn't been going so well, so it would be nice to find someone who knows the stuff
sonic sentinel
did this channel become more active because of the name change lol
storm sage
sup, is anyone well versed in the finite element method? I'm working on an imple...
I think the people in either #modeling or #numerical-analysis might be helpful
Not sure exactly
storm sage
did this channel become more active because of the name change lol
I feel like it's still pretty dead
candid veldt
I think the people in either <#1055572844114878615> or <#576514592725794816> mig...
oh yeah that sounds like the right channel definitely
harsh dagger
did this channel become more active because of the name change lol
idk im new and im js figuring things out here
sonic sentinel
I feel like it's still pretty dead
did you read my idea to switch the channel names or did it come from somewhere else
sonic sentinel
idk im new and im js figuring things out here
oh, this is the less active discussion channel, it's jut been renamed for april fools
storm sage
did you read my idea to switch the channel names or did it come from somewhere e...
I'm not sure who renamed it
harsh dagger
oh lol
sonic sentinel
rant time
i always felt like up until a year ago there was a hobby i could say i was "into". like in my freetime i'd start doing this thing pretty much automatically and spend a huge chunk of my zoning out time thinking about it and whatever.
pre-2021 or so this thing was minecraft, like mid2020-mid2021 it was chess. after that i was very interested in math
but then like somewhere around a year ago i think it just stopped, and there hasn't been much of a "thing i'm into" anymore
heady moss
Math
harsh dagger
i always felt like up until a year ago there was a hobby i could say i was "into...
yeah no thats kinda true for me i was all minecraft in 2020 cause of quarantine but since i was broke i was playing minecraft on the education edition. Still love that game js haven't been playing it lately cause of school and work
crisp seal
Nothing wrong with losing interest in things
Most people are into a variety of things
sonic sentinel
i always felt like up until a year ago there was a hobby i could say i was "into...
ive had a bunch of other mini interests but those are the major three. right now the only things i'd really consider are like watching TV shows (i watch at a rate of like 20m/day average, maybe a bit lower). there's also reading books but i don't spend a lot of time on those either.
harsh dagger
there are some hobbies that im like really into and there are definitely some high and low points of interest experiementing with that hobby
sonic sentinel
Most people are into a variety of things
what hobbies/communities are you into, if you don't mind me asking?
zinc hare
what channel@is this
crisp seal
I am a chess player, a maths student who wants to make mathematics a career
zinc hare
why is there something named eta
crisp seal
I like listening to music and playing some games and watching a few things on the side
weak ferry
what music are ya into?
crisp seal
a little bit of metal, a bit of baroque music and other random things
sonic sentinel
I like listening to music and playing some games and watching a few things on th...
do your hobbies have a strong social aspect (maybe e.g. playing chess with friends, some forum where you rec albums to each other, etc)? I feel like one thing that's holding me back from trying new things is the thought that i might never get to talk with anyone about it or that it might turn into passive/lethargic consumption.
crisp seal
do your hobbies have a strong social aspect (maybe e.g. playing chess with frien...
When i started playing chess competitively it became more social i guess
Simply for having to turn up in person and then talking about the chess with teammates and opponents
Then just chatting about whatever
crisp seal
yeah just online every so often
Its not as interesting online because there is no one to talk to and just faceless oponents
sonic sentinel
ah ok
glass peak
👍
sonic sentinel
When i started playing chess competitively it became more social i guess
i think i should have phrased this question in the negative. are there any hobbies you enjoy that don't have a strong social aspect? again sorry if i'm bothering you but this topic is interesting for me.
crisp seal
i guess
crisp seal
I don't know anyone in real life that likes the same music
hollow viper
I don't know anyone in real life that likes the same music
What music do you like?
sonic sentinel
I don't know anyone in real life that likes the same music
aight thanks
good night if it's night 4u
hollow viper
_
Well I like that music and as you also can see I am not mentally stable by my previous comments
crisp seal
cool
hollow viper
Bro im joking
I didnt mean to upeset you lol
Its col music but metal just threw off thats all
keen sinew
Hi peoples
drowsy patio
storm sage
https://youtu.be/6Kxht6raqFU?si=AJiF8KvHX_hWiyV5
please don't post the same youtube link in multiple channels
dull oriole
sturdy vector
does anyone have links for a science server?
i want to know if its possible to upscale photosynthesis for the productionn of oxygen
and if there would be any added benefits to doing so
stiff fossil
does anyone have links for a science server?
Check for the biological sciences server in #old-network.
neat lintel
Hi
sturdy vector
Check for the biological sciences server in <#406129911992942593>.
thx
wanton coyote
IMPROVED pfp
fringe summit
IMPROVED pfp
impMOOSED pfp
wanton coyote
MOOSED
wraith sphinx
Step outta the way yall the math guru just entered the chat
sick chasm
yo chat, should I pull an allnighter or sleep for 5h and hope that I wake up to my alarm?
wraith sphinx
yo chat, should I pull an allnighter or sleep for 5h and hope that I wake up to ...
just go to sleep dawg
tender tulip
hi chat
sick chasm
just go to sleep dawg
u right man
wheat bear
the server pfp better be an april fools prank
neat lintel
the server pfp better be an april fools prank
You do realize its the exact same pfp just without the torus?
Are you a topology lover?
surreal mural
Did we not celebrate easter yesterday?
neat lintel
Did we not celebrate easter yesterday?
What's easter?
hollow flame
fierce drum
neat lintel
I feel like there needs to be a room just to discuss calculators. I love collecting them, especially my RPNs.
neat lintel
rewatching dr.house rn
No way. Sleep is paramount to good cognitive functioning. You will be too tired to think.
sick chasm
No way. Sleep is paramount to good cognitive functioning. You will be too tired ...
not rn rn (sadly)…would never disappoint a lucid tortoise
neat lintel
not rn rn (sadly)…would never disappoint a lucid tortoise
Good night!
sudden brook
neat lintel
someonebody help pls
Hello, my best friend. How can i help you?
neat lintel
Hello, my best friend. How can i help you?
surds
quasi jettyBOT
surds
To ask for mathematics help on this server, please open your own help channel or help thread. See #❓how-to-get-help for instructions.
rain crescent
can I get tutor pls?
a tutor pls
can I get a chat in the 'maths help (occupied) section' pls
lapis jungle
can I get tutor pls?
youll get help here for free
lapis jungle
can I get a chat in the 'maths help (occupied) section' pls
no, go to available ones
unless youre helping
rain crescent
what are the available ones?
tawdry pecan
rain crescent
alr
neat lintel
guys
genuine question
what does "status quo" mean
google doesnt help
i dont get it
solid snow
the way things are
fiery furnace
idk what it means in the context ur using
but for history
we used the term
status quo antebellum
which meant as it was before the event
the event was usually a war or revolution
nova path
trangener
tawdry pecan
youve said this in a channel already
slate turret
use it in a sentence
"My roommate just yelled at me, but I'd rather not confront them right now. I'd rather maintain the status quo."
tawdry pecan
whats the point of saying it again
pearl moth
it's short for "status quo ante"
neat lintel
idk what it means in the context ur using
it basically means you want to keep things the way they were
in most contexts, if not all
pearl moth
train generator
visual breach
Woah this is the real discussy now
neat lintel
im going to kms
tawdry pecan
<@&268886789983436800>
visual breach
im going to kms
Are you posting yourself being suicidal
terse comet
im going to kms
If this is serious, please call 1 800 273 8255. If not, please do not joke about this
fervent pebble
its dummkopf
meager sonnet
fervent pebble
and also ur weird
terse comet
that was easy
zealous garden
That was quick
pearl moth
Woah this is the real discussy now
i honestly don't know which discussy is which now
meager sonnet
lmfao
pearl moth
i guess i'll just post CS crap in both of them now
zealous garden
i honestly don't know which discussy is which now
I'm the real discussy
meager sonnet
I want to play with my food but they don't even let me
it's just instant slur and ban
visual breach
i honestly don't know which discussy is which now
Ah, the only reason I found this is that I muted the main discussion
meager sonnet
c'mon where's the sport in it
tawdry pecan
I'm the real discussy
the real discussy was ___ _______ __ ____ _____ ___ ___
quasi breach
Can I share my YouTube video link here?
opal halo
Why math is trans
velvet abyss
Why math is trans
it always has been™️
opal halo
it always has been™️
Nuh uh
velvet abyss
Nuh uh
yuh uh, the only difference between previous picture with this one is that the donut shape has been removed
opal halo
yuh uh, the only difference between previous picture with this one is that the d...
Prove it
tawdry pecan
wait a day
opal halo
wait a day
Ok
velvet abyss
Prove it
gladly https://prnt.sc/oQCal6L7KG71
opal halo
gladly https://prnt.sc/oQCal6L7KG71
Scam link?
opal halo
That's rainbow
tawdry pecan
Ok
velvet abyss
🤣
tawdry pecan
Scam link?
velvet abyss
Scam link?
opal halo
Scam link?
red notch
Anyone here familiar with advanced analysis
proven knoll
i guess i'll just post CS crap in both of them now
what's wrong with cs
pearl moth
what's wrong with cs
who said there was something wrong with CS
proven knoll
the word "cs crap" made me thought something was wrong with cs
pearl moth
ok then
quasi breach
https://youtu.be/W5TYU3-KOQw?si=wV05KpcfSCMOag_r
Please watch it if you have time, and give feedback
pearl moth
such tiny books
quasi breach
🥲
dry lantern
gone for spring cleaning, will be right back
heady nacelle
sly flint
Is the cosmic torus gone forever
until someone solves the collatz
fervent pebble
until this happens i vote that at least the math formulas get significantly brightened
or the flag gets brightened
bc rn it looks like tv static
robust zealot
empty stratus
until someone solves the collatz <:opencry:586078614865444865>
You rang?
(It's my research topic. :3)
sly flint
oh wow
sly flint
what happened to your pfp <:sully:651816820122189834>
...it's always been like this?
storm sage
(It's my research topic. :3)
You should try the math server april fools puzzle hunt
It starts in #changelog
There is a series of successive clues
sly flint
suremark, what's wrong with it
jagged forge
suremark, what's wrong with it <:opencry:586078614865444865>
im watching u
neat lintel
Kind of a random question: Where do you all study math? I mean, physical location? I try to go to libraries but they tend to by annoying after awhile. I guess I can in my bedroom or desk but not always comfortable after while. Obvious ergonomic skill issue.
sly flint
im watching u
empty stratus
I HAVE THE WYRM ROLE
low parrot
hi rage :D
sly flint
Kind of a random question: Where do you all study math? I mean, physical locatio...
Usually, whilst laying down on my bed
low parrot
dude i fell asleep on the train and almost missed the last stop
empty stratus
You should try the math server april fools puzzle hunt
Was this about getting the worm role?
sly flint
dude i fell asleep on the train and almost missed the last stop
damn, close call
sly flint
Was this about getting the worm role?
Nope, it gets waay more intricate
the whole worm thing surpisingly wasn't related
empty stratus
I don't see it.
neat lintel
Usually, whilst laying down on my bed <:bleakkekw:913344117981999125>
Nice. I will probably start doing the same. I got a metal clipboard and a tablet with all my books so I think I will just do that. Wake up with math. Go to sleep with math.
empty stratus
The answer is "whohas". That's my guess.
low parrot
does anyone know when desmos art comp results come out
empty stratus
The wyrm is far more satisfying.
storm sage
The answer is "whohas". That's my guess.
The answer is reacting to a certain message to gain access to the puzzle game channel
It's not something you would need mods to help confirm/deny
🧐
storm sage
subbed to your channel lol
thank you! :)
low parrot
do i post desmos stuff here
neat lintel
no one told me how i can get the worm role
jagged forge
L
sly flint
suremark, seriously though, is this the first time you noticed my pfp?
low parrot
suremark, seriously though, is this the first time you noticed my pfp?
i was wondering...
jagged forge
suremark, seriously though, is this the first time you noticed my pfp?
yes
i wish i didnt
sly flint
,av
fathom swallowBOT
sly flint
it ain't that bad 
low parrot
,av
fathom swallowBOT
low parrot
ooh thats cool
empty stratus
The answer is reacting to a certain message to gain access to the puzzle game ch...
Do I have to search through discussion-eta? Because the search feature isn't letting me go back to 7:40 am when the changelog game was posted.
Never mind.
It involves knowing server commands that I don't know.
hexed bronze
I was tryna find the maths server and i was wondering why i had a trans server in my serverlist
Maths is literally gay 💀💀
hexed bronze
not cool... Maths has nothing to do with sexual stuff
lone stone
not cool... Maths has nothing to do with sexual stuff
it's the antithesis of sexual stuff 😏
proven knoll
Kind of a random question: Where do you all study math? I mean, physical locatio...
Bedroom
raven plaza
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a7gpx0h-BuU
Yea
Probably most math majors use snippets
I try to type everything only using a-z, 0-9, [shift], [space], [,], [.], [/], [;], [']
Anti-backslash gang
Number row symbols also bad
static smelt
<@&268886789983436800> i have a problem about being unfairly kicked off the server.
Can you help with this?
steel mantle
oh?
delicate mulch
dm modmail
leaden torrent
@polar panther
steel mantle
yes
storm stump
not cool... Maths has nothing to do with sexual stuff
trans things also doesn't have too much to do with sexuality
so math and trans people have common ground there
pearl moth
there was a brief skit at a graduation party at my alma mater where a bunch of math students told ribald math jokes, so I have to say that the intersection of math and things related to sex is nonempty
fervent pebble
do u remember any of them
or have a link?
i only know one that isn't a basic riff on "haha analysis shortened haha"
pearl moth
nah this was 30 years ago
hexed bronze
trans things also doesn't have too much to do with sexuality
Trans is literally a sexuality
storm stump
did u learn that on tiktok
hexed bronze
I dont hate trans but i just don't think math and trans fit
hexed bronze
did u learn that on tiktok
No quite literally the LGBT system argues that gender is a spectrum and gender is a direct link to sexuality
storm stump
beds are linked to sexuality too for a lot of people
does that mean beds are a sexuality
hexed bronze
beds are linked to sexuality too for a lot of people
Beds arent people and are objects
Are you saying trans people are objects lmfao
storm stump
i'm just saying you're saying a lot of words that don't have any connection to one another
hexed bronze
i'm just saying you're saying a lot of words that don't have any connection to o...
But being trans is literally a sexual preference
How does that not have a link
storm stump
god i just know i'll get reprimanded if i continue this convo
but no, being trans is not a sexual preference; it says something about your own gender and personality, but not what you're attracted to
hexed bronze
god i just know i'll get reprimanded if i continue this convo
okay... Have a nice day
hexed bronze
but no, being trans is not a sexual preference; it says something about your own...
Whatever you say
storm stump
like, look up a single definition of what "transgender" means
lapis jungle
like, look up a single definition of what "transgender" means
nice music youre listening
storm stump
i'm just saying if you talk so confidently about things that you have no idea about, idk how far you'll make it in math
storm stump
nice music youre listening
i fucking love the stupendium so much
i found them like 3 weeks ago and they're so awesome
i'm such a goddamn millenial
lapis jungle
lol we all know that feeling when we find an absolutely cracked artist
storm stump
but i can't explain it to ANY of my friends because
the natural reaction to me telling anyone "hey i found this awesome artist who... raps about video games"
is just "wow i would've loved that back in 2012 when i was 15 years old"
god "whatever you say" is such a beta answer
i'm so mad
frail lagoon
god "whatever you say" is such a beta answer
Real
visual breach
i'm just saying if you talk so confidently about things that you have no idea ab...
Oh no
I am damned
storm stump
it's ok there's many opportunities in your future to be humbled
storm stump
i mean i know what that's like
i also love thinking that everyone else is stupid
but it helps recognizing when ur out of your depth
visual breach
i also love thinking that everyone else is stupid
Oh, sorry.. this is not relatable for me
storm stump
but a lot of STEM people just refuse to do that when it's about social sciences specifically
visual breach
Someone else's stupidity is not related with my Dunning-Kruger
visual breach
but a lot of STEM people just refuse to do that when it's about social sciences ...
Ouch
That presents me an image of a scientist rambling about literature
storm stump
i think it's ok to just stop listening when ppl with a background in STEM start talking emotionally about non-STEM things
storm stump
Someone else's stupidity is not related with my Dunning-Kruger
u just sound like you're getting impostor syndromed
you'll be fine bby
visual breach
i think it's ok to just stop listening when ppl with a background in STEM start ...
Yeah, like that's exactly nerd moment
visual breach
u just sound like you're getting impostor syndromed
Oh, I mean I think I know I am often out of depth
Like, when I take a class, I need some time after class to stare at my notes to understand what it is about
storm stump
that's ok
everyone does that
except the people who don't even try & don't look at the notes until the exam
visual breach
Ah. Thought it was only me, and everyone else gets it right away
storm stump
no no, in math classes usually no one gets anything right away
visual breach
Aah
storm stump
i just mindlessly wrote everything down back in university
sometimes you have NERDS who actually understand stuff quickly & manage to ask good questions right away
but i never understood anything until i started doing the exercises
that's where the actual learning happens for me
visual breach
Ah, true
visual breach
sometimes you have NERDS who actually understand stuff quickly & manage to ask g...
Yeah idk how this happens
runic sluice
Why did the server logo switch? I liked the torus better.
I thought it was for April Fools but it's still here.
cold needle
there are delays
visual breach
Oh, is it getting changed
cold needle
yes everything will return to normal soon
surreal sapphire
timezones
somber orbit
i have a research assignment coming up and i don’t know what to do
any of you guys could suggest a (simple) calculative strategy game that i could do
fervent pebble
assuming you're not a grad student or anything you can't really go wrong with nim
if you are a grad student or something maybe check out sprouts
twin marsh
hello
can someone help me
its very serious
it can save my life🙏
its geometry math
fresh comet
hello
can someone help me
its very serious
it can save my life🙏
its geometry ma...
save your life???
twin marsh
yes
fresh comet
are you being held at gunpoint to do geometry???
peak tide
and your life depends on this
twin marsh
yes
fresh comet
what
peak tide
did you try opening a doubt channel
twin marsh
like homework
peak tide
latent edge
nobody help:(
We live in society. That's all what I can say
neat lintel
i fucking love society
sick chasm
I thought they were planning a season 2
sturdy vector
i fucking love society
i love fuc... imma stop there
pearl moth
theyre calling it a doubt channel now
sadge
neat lintel
Saying that is an insult to desmos lol
dire glen
geogebra seemed more complete
neat lintel
I mean sure geogebra has tons of additional tools as well but desmos just feels natural to use
At least to me
dire glen
but is very similar
is there some substantial difference between the 2?
that makes desmos better for you?
i guess it depends on the use case as well, for what i'm doing, graphing simple functions, both are overkill for me 😄
3d geogebra is more performant
neat lintel
I guess the handling of tools and interface makes it nicer to work with, at least for 2D graphs
For 3D geogebra is the king
dire glen
and you can link stuff in the graph and manipulate them.
interface of 2d?
it seems really the same to me...
dire glen
you cannot change colors in demos, they are random
dire glen
i was expecting to find those feature with right click on the function
how do i do that?
velvet abyss
you cannot change colors in demos, they are random
you can, just not intuitively, but u hold on the circle itself
dire glen
let me google
neat lintel
I use desmos on mobile. Right click the circle I think
dire glen
oh yea, holding
dire glen
still, they look like a copy of eachother
except for more adv interactive stuff in geogebra
i was just curious about the preference
i am probably missing something
dire glen
jesus, geogebra is huge. didnt know it.
teal tree
need suggestions on how to title something i'm writing
the title is currently
" Partitioning ℝ² and ℝ³ "
but i want the title to only be words. would
"Partitioning the Plane and Space"
be an okay substitute? idk about the word "space" tbh, it doesn't really strike me as "ℝ³"
neat lintel
sounds okay
raven plaza
Partitioning $\mathbb R^2$ and $\mathbb R^3$
teal tree
ik i can do that but i kinda prefer it to read well in plain text
bronze mural
For those who've taken Columbia Math Undergraduate Seminar 1 or 2, how much outside work is required (problem sets, readings, etc.) Thanks for your help!
vernal token
geogebra seemed more complete
Desmos can plot sums with x as an upper bound, for example
GeoGebra can't do that (or atleast for me, it didn't work)
Also it feels Desmos is generally a bit smoother, even if you sketch some "heavy" function, you can zoom in and out without much lag, which is not the case for GeoGebra
But Desmos seems to lack the (or some of the) CAS functionality GeoGebra has, e.g. I don't think you can integrate a function and make it show its function term in Desmos
You can plot the integral, sure, but you can't see the function term (though maybe there is some function for that, I haven't used Desmos much)
jagged forge
Desmos can plot sums with x as an upper bound, for example
do you mean something like this?
vernal token
do you mean something like this?
No, let's say I want to plot $f(x) = \sum_{k=1}^x x$.
Desmos can do that
jagged forge
i'm assuming you want the expression inside the sum to be arbitrary
but yea, that's what i did, with the partial sums of 1/n
vernal token
but yea, that's what i did, with the partial sums of 1/n
Hm, still seems a bit more user-friendly in Desmos
But cool, I didn't know GeoGebra can do that
jagged forge
yes, just replace k^-1 with n
raven girder
Hey math fans!
sinful geyser
Geogebra is the best my friends
coral cliff
Helloo
fathom swallowBOT
cofe cof
neat lintel
Hi. Can anyone provide me some advice on how to do a reading group?
how to structure it i mean
loud snow
Hi. Can anyone provide me some advice on how to do a reading group?
Its a book club
neat lintel
it'll be composed of 2/3 people and we probably won't have any overseeing from someone more knowledgeable
A math textbook reading group
vivid halo
Hi. Can anyone provide me some advice on how to do a reading group?
have people take turns giving lectures on the material, once a week
vivid halo
that or presenting problems
neat lintel
we'll be reading this
vivid halo
something to keep people accountable
neat lintel
I see
neat lintel
It'll be me and one more person and we actually have pretty good work ethic
loud snow
Ive seen this for grad seminars
loud snow
have people take turns giving lectures on the material, once a week
Says exactly that
neat lintel
that or presenting problems
Is that necessary regardless?
loud snow
It'll be me and one more person and we actually have pretty good work ethic
Lol wth
There is nothing to organize then
neat lintel
Do you think i should invite someone else?
loud snow
Why?
neat lintel
Reading and explaining the material?
loud snow
Treat it like any other social event you try to organize
Just meet regularly and have something to deliver on
It really doesnt matter what it is as long as its on topic
You dont have to manage people since its only a duo
neat lintel
That sounds like it should work, but the person doesn't know english. Should i find a book we both understand? The person said that they can actually use google translate but that may get a little rough with mathematics. I guess since i speak the language i could help with the more math specific stuff
loud snow
I have no advice for that but that sounds fine
neat lintel
Do you think i should try to find another book? Given that the language i speak doesn't really have that many good quality options
neat lintel
Fair enough
loud snow
Hopefully the words in the book are simple enough
neat lintel
Hopefully
Do you have any advice to define the pace?
Because i have no idea. A section per week is reasonable?
solar hawk
loud snow
Do you have any advice to define the pace?
Not that serious
Unless it is?
Usually things like that arent that serious
Why care about pace?
loud snow
https://tenor.com/view/frog-gif-20986887
Hi
neat lintel
Usually things like that arent that serious
Fair enough, thanks for the advice
neat lintel
I'm good. Weren't you doing a math major?
solar hawk
How is it going?
Good
solar hawk
I'm good. Weren't you doing a math major?
No I’m still hs
neat lintel
No I’m still hs
LOL i got confused then. What math are you reading these days?
solar hawk
LOL i got confused then. What math are you reading these days?
Analysis mostly
Sometimes some LA to go with the analysis
neat lintel
Analysis mostly
Which author?
solar hawk
Which author?
Abbott and Spivak
Spivak Calc on Manifolds
Abbott understanding analysis
fresh comet
Spivak Calc on Manifolds
how's CoM going
neat lintel
Abbott and Spivak
Cool. I tried Spivak and had to give it up. Maybe some day, but i'm probably gonna use tao's analysis, it looks pretty good
solar hawk
Ic
neat lintel
Have you looked at it?
solar hawk
Iv heard good things about it
neat lintel
Spivak Calc on Manifolds
Oh shit, you're already reading calc on Manifolds
Pretty cool
Thought you were reading calculus
solar hawk
ING told me the only pre req is Lin alg and anal
neat lintel
Lol when you get to college you're gonna be pretty bored
solar hawk
I’ll just do the next math
neat lintel
Good luck, you're doing great shit
solar hawk
Tanks
fresh comet
ING told me the only pre req is Lin alg and anal
yeah it pretty much is
Spivak says it himself
neat lintel
Because pigeons
No one likes pigeons, you know? So the principle is tricky because of pigeons
orchid badger
dude
so what you saying is that the guy who invented this principal
cause this principal is a bit tricky
he named it pigeon?
solar hawk
hard means mathematically mature faster right
I suppose
neat lintel
so what you saying is that the guy who invented this principal
cause this princi...
Yes, that is it
limber stratus
Can i ask yall a question.. whats the hardest math class youve taken
orchid badger
Can i ask yall a question.. whats the hardest math class youve taken
haa
well, actually every math class which i take is hard until the topic is too old to get used to it
neat lintel
Can i ask yall a question.. whats the hardest math class youve taken
Intermediate courses to any new subjects
Olympiad geometry is hard though
raw dagger
why pigeonhole principal is so tricky
Uh, what class are you using Pigeonhole in? I just did it and found it intuitive enough. If you are using it for Advanced Abstract Algebra Analysis 11 (non hyperbole version: something further than discrete math), then I can't speak to it.
neat lintel
Hello
neat lintel
No one likes pigeons, you know? So the principle is tricky because of pigeons
Mike Tyson
orchid badger
Uh, what class are you using Pigeonhole in? I just did it and found it intuitive...
UNI
FIRST SEM
nah dude
orchid badger
Uh, what class are you using Pigeonhole in? I just did it and found it intuitive...
am learning pigeonhole till the discrete maths level only
but the thing is that the types of questions which makes me nervious
like
Prove that any collection of 31 distinct integers between 1 and 60 has the property
that one divides another.
vagrant edge
meager arch
Yo
orchid badger
dude
discrete maths is fun if you figure out how to solve the problemn
quick beacon
like
Prove that any collection of 31 distinct integers between 1 and 60 has the...
Informally, first, we can agree that including 1 is a bad idea because any integer is divisible by 1.
If we include 2 we have to exclude {4, 6, 8...}, and if we include 3 we have to exclude {6, 9, 12, ...}
We can get numbers above 30 essentially "for free" because they exclude no other values themselves, this gives us 31 through 60. However, any other value we pick will have one or more multiple of it within this range. We can exchange then, one for the other, but the best we can do for n values is n/2 values that don't divide each other. Thus pigeonhole.
Of course, if you suggested the problem you're likely already aware of the solution, but thanks for the fun challenge nevertheless.
twilit parrot
like
Prove that any collection of 31 distinct integers between 1 and 60 has the...
What does “property that one divides another” mean?
Like by what number divide
Can’t all numbers divide by all numbers? Maybe it’ll be a lot of decimals and stuff but it’s possible right
surreal sapphire
this is in the sense of without remainder
divisibility only makes sense for non-units and if you work with real (or just rational) numbers, everything except 0 is a unit
(thats what you just figured out :D)
twilit parrot
Ohh ok
dark chasm
why chatgpt cant do math?
this question spawns in my head outta nowhere and it doesnt make sense
dark chasm
yeah but the data is in there i mean
sometimes it gets more creative than some ppl tho but still
it does mistakes event at a very simple equation
fervent pebble
this is probably one of the cases where the 'creativity' (randomness) screws it, then
it has the answer but it changes something each time, so it's necessarily wrong
im not an expert ofc
plain island
this is probably one of the cases where the 'creativity' (randomness) screws it,...
this is pretty much exactly the issue, it doesn't "know" when to be serious
neat lintel
yeah but the data is in there i mean
Not every solution to every math problem is there
sly flint
It just "predicts" the most likely word/character given the previous text as input, so even if it appears to solve a problem, it's really not doing anything special to do it
dark chasm
Not every solution to every math problem is there
yea but it gives the wrong answer to the basic equations
do y'all think they will fix this issue ?
and gpts will be able to do math?
lone stone
I try to type everything only using a-z, 0-9, [shift], [space], [,], [.], [/], [...
thanks bro 🙏
eager ledge
do y'all think they will fix this issue ?
I think that they’re trying and they’ll probably succeed.
sly flint
and gpts will be able to do math?
No
fervent pebble
I think that they’re trying and they’ll probably succeed.
i think an llm is still fundamentally limited in this
at best it's a database with a randomness function
glass peak
and gpts will be able to do math?
Im sure it’ll eventually be able to do basic stuff, but I doubt it’ll ever be able to do anything remotely complex just due to how these things fundamentally work
sly flint
at best it's a database with a randomness function
u should see 3b1bs vid on transformers, his explanation is very intuitive
fervent pebble
im morally opposed to 3b1b vids on the grounds that his voice makes me sleepy and i cant focus
sly flint
grant does have a soothing voice
visual breach
I heard that 3b1b is way too handwavey
fervent pebble
just use a capital pi
sly flint
I heard that 3b1b is way too handwavey
I've noticed that too, I think he has even explicitly stated that
visual breach
I've noticed that too, I think he has even explicitly stated that
Yeah
fervent pebble
<@709506264408915971>
im sorry bro
sly flint
LOL
visual breach
Haha
sly flint
Hi modern
steel mantle
What's up?
sly flint
this time it wasn't me
fervent pebble
What's up?
are these spammers?
sly flint
What's up?
the ceiling B)
fervent pebble
see from here
lots of green leaves just repeating things that have been said before
plain island
wait wtf
steel mantle
They also all have the same acc creation and server join date lol
fervent pebble
yeah
visual breach
Are they training chatbots here
fervent pebble
it could be testing for a raid
visual breach
Argh
steel mantle
Banned them all
steel mantle
all good :)
they all were just random two names/words+number usernames
all created May 22 2022 or some shit
all joined today
yapping nonsense
sly flint
hmm
plain island
smart
radiant lava
it doesnt seem like it would be funny to anyone
fervent pebble
my conspiracy theory is raid testing
radiant lava
pointless
radiant lava
my conspiracy theory is raid testing
maybe maybe
fervent pebble
it doesnt seem like it would be funny to anyone
i think the goal is to be annoying
radiant lava
yeah but like id imagine someone has to find it funny to do it
either some "shock" thing or something else
probably nothing anyways
visual breach
yeah but like id imagine someone has to find it funny to do it
That's why I think it's chatbot training
fervent pebble
who would discord chatbot train here
radiant lava
big server
visual breach
who would discord chatbot train *here*
Dunno, just that it big
fervent pebble
also, a much more efficient way is to use the discord api to just download chat logs
and train a chatbot on those
no need to do whatever this is
radiant lava
thats if u assume whoever did this thinks optimally 
fervent pebble
oh, right 
visual breach
Anyway so, what's the transformer thing?
fervent pebble
3b1b vid
radiant lava
u mean like a gpt
fervent pebble
on deep learning
visual breach
Is it how modern ML is architected?
visual breach
Hmm
visual breach
I did hear there is like reinforced learning and stuffs
radiant lava
gpt will give you a "response" based off what it thinks should come next
visual breach
gpt will give you a "response" based off what it thinks should come next
I mean, this is also how any ML architecture runs
visual breach
Yeah, still
visual breach
Ah, latex is one of the areas chatgpt is actually good at, I saw
radiant lava
its alright ngl
i ask it to fix stuff
but sometimes it can throw u on a wild goose chase
visual breach
but sometimes it can throw u on a wild goose chase
Oh? Never encountered this myself
What happened?
radiant lava
it was when i was still pretty new to latex
I dont remember details but I do remember trying to get some graph to work with tizkpictures
I ran into the same kind of issues with chatgpt while working with a library in haskell that seemed a little obscure
my guess is that it doesnt have a lot of material when u get too "niche"
visual breach
They got more of these bot accounts, hmm
plain island
wtf
sly flint
lmao
fervent pebble
,av @kindred nexus
sly flint
yo valley
fathom swallowBOT
sly flint
they copying u now
fervent pebble
HAHAHAHA
fervent pebble
they copying u now
that's so real of them, i would copy me too
visual breach
Huh, still going on?
fervent pebble
according to discord search this message hasn't been posted before
they're evolving
sly flint
visual breach
Woah
fervent pebble
thank u i hate making decisions
steel mantle
I'll just keep this chat open
plain island
i dont think hayley's still here
i'm always here
steel mantle
lmao
plain island
that's not true i never go to this channel
fervent pebble
i'm always here
this isn't comforting
also, i checked for curiosity
#discussion has 7,774,007 messages as of rn, and #serious-discussion only has 312,143
,w 7,774,007/312,143
visual breach
<#268882317391429632> has 7,774,007 messages as of rn, and <#849776666161971240>...
Sad
sly flint
lmao
fervent pebble
,w 7,774,007/312,143 decimal
fathom swallowBOT
Requested by valley143
fervent pebble
...
steel mantle
LMAO
visual breach
Hahahahaha
steel mantle
ur so useless
me in the mirror every morning:
fervent pebble
me in the mirror every morning:
daily disaffirmations
steel mantle
B-)
sly flint
25 times btw
fathom swallowBOT
fervent pebble
how can you not tell this converges but get this (MUCH) harder problem right:
,w sum from 1 to inf of 1/(n^(2+cos(n)))
fathom swallowBOT
old oak
Trying to see how this could be right
it's not, that series converges
fervent pebble
^this really does diverge
old oak
does it, really?
fervent pebble
how does wolfram get this but not the other one
fervent pebble
does it, really?
yes, do u want paper?
i searched for that paper for so long btw
old oak
doesn't look like a trivial result
fervent pebble
yep, def not
visual breach
Wow
old oak
the one with 200 in the exponent is much more obvious
visual breach
Maybe wolfram just guessed it
old oak
heck, any number greater than 2
visual breach
,w sum from 1 to inf of 1/(n^(2 + 0.001 cos(n)))
fathom swallowBOT
visual breach
Welllll I highly doubt this
fervent pebble
yeah, that result is wrong
old oak
that one converges
fervent pebble
you can have sums of the form $\sum_{n=k}^\infty \frac{1}{n^{1+\epsilon}} = \infty$ but not when the exponent is strictly larger than 1 + eps
fathom swallowBOT
valley
fervent pebble
the famous example where it's easy to show divergence is $\sum_{n=k}^\infty \frac{1}{n^{1+\frac{1}{n}}}$
fathom swallowBOT
valley
fervent pebble
but yeah, this result is true to the best of my knowledge, there's even two (three?) proofs of it, one being linked in the paper above, one being in the paper above, and a third i hazily recall seeing in a french paper somehwere
it''s probably possible for a sufficiently talented undergrad to solve themselves if they assume good enough bounds on the irrationality measure of pi
neat lintel
reverse classroom worked for me >:3
went to class and understood everyth cuz i studied it at days home before
thank you eric tao for the book recommendation
linear algebra done wrong my sergei treil, good book
dusky vale
im sorry bro
no problem
eager ledge
it''s probably possible for a sufficiently talented undergrad to solve themselve...
How do you go from the irrationality measure to this sum? The question amounts to how frequently can an integer be a very mediocre approximation of an odd multiple of pi (say, |n-m*pi| < sqrt [2* ln(ln(n))/ln(n)] ) rather than the existence (or not) of (likely sparser) excellent rational approximations of pi (which is what the irrationality measure looks at)?
fervent pebble
with low enough bounds you could probably find a 'low discrepancy subsequence' and from there the goal is to show that that sequence diverges
those also aren't my thoughts, for the record
i'm somewhat parroting something an old teacher told me while we were working on this
silver prawn
well (without reading the paper) if for example we're looking for instances where cos(n) ~ 1/n-1, we wouldn't need to look for distinct really good approximations to pi, bc different values of n might associate with the same really good approximation
but maybe this interpretation means the two issues amount to the same thing
clear fox
What’s like the standard course progression after high school?
I know it’s like ode and calc 3, maybe more stats? But what’s past this
north topaz
What’s like the standard course progression after high school?
I know it’s lik...
It branches out
So before you do ODEs (and PDEs) you would definitely need a course on differential equations in general, so like second-order linear DEs, Fourier series, reduction of order etc.
For pure maths you are definitely going to do analysis (real and complex analysis) and abstract algebra (groups, rings and fields)
These also then branch out and specialise, so differential geometry, topology, and functional analysis for analysis
Galois theory and representation theory for algebra
And then you of course have statistics, so after a first course in uni statistics (where you learn how to use R in addition to learning about ANOVA, t-tests, pooled means etc)
You would then do a course on prob and stats, so distributions and maybe Markov chains
vivid halo
What’s like the standard course progression after high school?
I know it’s lik...
it branches out after a while but pretty standard stuff early on is like linear algebra/ODEs/vector calc then some intro to proofs course and then the standard real/complex analysis and abstract algebra and topology
north topaz
And then you would do further stats such as Bayesian inference, further ML (maximum likelihood) stuff
vivid halo
if you're more on the applied side of things some more statistics/PDEs/numerical methods is typical
north topaz
Have a look at this: this is typical for North America
Europe is quite a bit different
glass peak
What’s like the standard course progression after high school?
I know it’s lik...
Pretty much everyone in maths will take real and complex analysis, linear algebra and abstract algebra (groups rings fields) and most people will also take a DE course. Beyond that it will vary wildly based on your uni and specific interests and program
north topaz
In terms of when you do courses (it's earlier) and how much of your major you devote to just maths
river warren
Pretty much everyone in maths will take real and complex analysis, linear algebr...
yeah diffyq or something that covers diffyq
north topaz
it branches out after a while but pretty standard stuff early on is like linear ...
Ah yes linear algebra, totally forgot
river warren
i cant get a math minor with my degree if i take diffyq
glass peak
that’s what DE is
north topaz
Also keep in mind that you could do stuff with mathematical physics, or econ / quantitative finance, or maths related to computer science such as machine learning, or mathematical biology even
There's also a lot of applications and crossover with different fields in STEM
'Applied maths' is an umbrella term and it doesn't do justice to how diverse the field is
river warren
yeah
mainly its bridging the gap between math and application
you dont necessarily need doctorate level math, people just study theory cuz they like it
north topaz
Yeah the use of mathematics in applied maths is only 1/3 of the process
1/3 is about representing the problem mathematically: defining key concepts using maths
river warren
usually a not math centered undergrad stem degree will make u go up to calc 3 and linear algebra
north topaz
And 1/3 is about interpreting the results in your given context
river warren
but then its applying it in physics and materials
north topaz
usually a not math centered undergrad stem degree will make u go up to calc 3 an...
Yeah that's typical for a minor, or say a BA in maths
Or like a requirement to become a maths teacher
People have different goals in life yk
river warren
cuz mechanical/aero math only goes up to linear algebra
north topaz
cuz mechanical/aero math only goes up to linear algebra
Interesting
river warren
in undergrad
cuz
like
fluid dynamics
thermodynamics
incompressible flow
propulsion
u just need calc
neat lintel
hi
sonic sentinel
i did the math all humans mass on earth equals ~1m blue whales mass
(more blue whales than actually exist)
old oak
Replacing humans by ~1m of blue whales would probably be a net gain for Earth
sonic sentinel
Replacing humans by ~1m of blue whales would probably be a net gain for Earth
how much would it fuck up the environment though
wwf says there were 250k whales in the world before whaling
old oak
how much would it fuck up the environment though
Compared to how much humans have been fucking up the environment?
neat lintel
hi
sonic sentinel
Compared to how much humans have been fucking up the environment?
yes, but that part of the question is implicit :)
nocturne matrix
Submitted a pretty basic question about smooth manifolds, anyone wanna bother helping me out? ^^ https://discord.com/channels/268882317391429632/1225154297948274829
sonic sentinel
<@&268886789983436800> if you can understand what this guy is saying
old oak
I mean, to be fair, I'm LGBTQ and I've just advocated replacing humanity with whales
So he might be on to something
sonic sentinel
replace genders with whales
signal schooner
is there an easy way to find occupied math help channels that haven’t been responded to yet without just sifting through them
plain island
is there an easy way to find occupied math help channels that haven’t been respo...
not really
tender tulip
@jagged forge
strange cipher
bro, the group's new logo 💀
leaden torrent
bro, the group's new logo 💀
want to elaborate?
neat lintel
want to elaborate?
It looks really odd