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my coworker did scala and he hates it and this person we interviewed said every scala programmer he knows also hates scala
seems like scala programmers are not fans of scala
Do people actually use web asm?
scala is so fucking bad lmao
to be fair
Lol
php 1 through 6\
the day children are brainwashed into learning haskell from age 5 i will be a happy man
I mean, Scala is C++ of FP world
Yep
whoever thought it was a good idea to build a functional language on top of jvm was an absolute moron
isn tit bad
F# seems fine to me.
memory constraints am i right
We just keep using higher letters.
i actually think f# is cool ngl
This will never work. Eventually we'll run out.
i just havent found any excuse to use it
like
i wish f# would replace python
ngl
whats wrong with python
its python
i like python
thats whats wrong with python
They all suck
you can make any human a coding monkey
Python is there simply because you can so easily make something not working there
whats not to love about it
Python's problem is it's a programming language. This is a common blunder.
there should be one and only one possible way of solving a problem mentality
makes my brain rot
golang 
ok but that hasn’t really been true with python for a long time
Golang does make me lose hope to humanity.
no one takes the zen of python seriously anymore
im talking python 3.5 forward
idc about any other version tbh
those are the ones ive had to use
theres still python2 programs out there
it hasn’t been true for years
somehow
so it's not so functional
Python lambdas are very 
its not about functionality ok
Nah, not related with FP. But python is not functional, ye
its about seeing how slow ur program is
mfw multiprocessing says my lambda can’t be pickled
Gottagofast
do we need to talk about numpy, pytorch, etc again
the concept of offloading compute to c libraries
Isn't shit like cython supposed to help wjth speed? I've never used python in a context where performance matters.
yes
Might as well just switch languages.
ok, then, thanks for ruining my life for the next week with a new programming language @jagged forge
bye
python has good performance as long as you don’t do the slow bits in python
It's a scripting language. Square peg round hole.

but i think python is still only good for prototypes
once u have a product going on
Or like skeleton code around high performance shit maybe?
exactly
Yea, most of the problem of python is that
and its generating revenue
that is what it’s good for
Prototypes often happen to live long
Just think, you could be using bash.
thats why i use the meson build system
Idk whyyy people really like that

zzzzzz
don’t say the r word here
but it's really friendly for new learner.
I know ppl like all these new fangled build systems, but I kinda like plain ol' makefiles for misc bs
lol
Makefiles work yea
python also just has a superior ecosystem for data manipulation
making it easier its not necesarily superior
what do you think of julia
Julia could be good, probably much smaller community as of now but we’ll see where that goes
i just use it wherever im required to use python
good
easier to write and easier to read seems like a win
just document ur stuff properly
if ur doing a mvp sure
Julia 😻
but then ull have someone who will try to make a k8s implementation in python
or even worse nodejs
the existence of nodejs annoys me
for a wide range of data manipulation tasks, mvp or not, dataframe libraries are the optimal way to do it
its fine as long as u dont have to read files sequentially
its 2050 the only language around is javascript everyone is mandated to learn it from age 10
like
i would actually like js being superseeded by ts
and browsers actually interperting ts
that would be ideal
they created node so that they could make their frontend devs do backend dev without learning a new language
now you can employ your little javascript code monkeys
idk if thats what ryan dahl had in mind
i like js for things under 100 lines and that’s it 
2 months of training to become the model fullstack developer
that is such a fucking marketing bs
and like
not even mad at u
thats just what it is
if algebraic topology fails i wonder if reactjs will be around when i finish my phd
probably
it almost certainly will
php is still a thing u know
when it came out i really thought it was last 2 years
i guess we have a million other frameworks now but it still exists
yes but this is frontend dev fads
the oldest theyre allowed is 1.5 years before fading into obscurity
front end devs
are pepegs
most of them only know how to turn their computer and boot vscode
ngl
well
i like when cs majors complain about their courses because it doesnt relate to their passion of making reactjs apps
frontend devs have to know a bunch of shit about how the browser works
thats if their good
also they have to care about how their code is bundled and stuff
there are things for that
personally as a backend dev i ship my fat go binaries in giant Ubuntu containers and never give a shit
like
you tell the npm thing to do the thing it make bundle.min.js
esbuild
i hate u
i just do go build and fuggedaboutit
i have built container images by myself
just using fucking alpine and shit
zzzzzz
yeah the only reason we use ubuntu at work is because when shit goes south and you have to exec into containers
it’s nice to have the familiar environment
i have done the whole linux from scratch book
nice
had to
job required it
also now that i know as much as i know of linux
i would setup gentoo if i had to work on software in c/cpp
specially if i had to cross compile
do u want to know how to cross compile in golang
like doesnt the gcc front end handle that for u?
or is there a llvm front end for go lang?
nice
they even have their own virtual assembly language for reasons i am not sure
plan 9 assembly
oh god the programming has invaded discussy 2
we moved here from math discussion, we are wanderers
yeah
@jagged forge have u used any blazor
like
ngl
i would actually enjoy front end development
if i had to use that
i have heard of blazor but forgot what it was
its a web assembly front end framework for c#
have what
agreements
to this
front-end dev is like a different universe from "normal" dev haha
maybe there are plenty of programming masters hiding here.
don't care and don't know most likely
well like i said, they do have to care about a bunch of browser stuff
cookies, cors, other random headers, and the abomination that is js build systems
horrid
i had to learn about it when i wanted to use external packages in bitburner (a game that lets you automate stuff in javascript)
my solution was bundling 
then i learned about the fact that most packages work only in the browser or on the server but not both
and that was a pain in the ass
and the they had the brilliant idea of using docker containers to host front end apps
who did now
ive seen people do that
there are multiple reasons for it being bad
one is the fact that ur not using a proper web server like nginx
or a premade solution from a cloud provider
surely you’re not referring to the normal practice of running a web server from a container
you’re saying they ran the frontend in a container as well?
no im refering to people making a env for a react app
and shipping that container as is
and just running the npm script
in their package.json
then in the worst case
having a vm run that container
and just opening ports
ive seen shit
idk what that means, i don’t do frontend i guess
Whattt
Well actually
Don't people just let the web server in the container deliver the js content to frontend?
rational numbers are those that can be represented as a quotient a/b for integers a and b. Irrationals cannot be expressed in this way; numbers like sqrt{2} or pi are irrational.
The decimal expansion of any rational number is eventually repeating (in other words you can always find some repeating pattern in the decimal expansion after throwing away finitely many digits at the start of the decimal expansion). Irrational numbers never have repeating patterns like this.
that's the explicit difference between rational and irrational numbers.
division remainder dym?
any rational number could be expressed by q/p(q,p are both integer and p isn't 0),q and p are mutually prime numbers.
but the irrational numbers such as √2 and π,can't be expressed by q/p mentioned above.
I visited chithurst and amaravti monasteries in England, was a delight
is the scenery there beautiful?
are python arrays even used commonly or should i only ever use numpy arrays?
what even are these typecode thingys
from array import array
yh leave those
Hey!
numpy is better anyway.
i figured after you had to ask 
book covers arrays and memoryview and i was like what does this do for me that numpy doesn't already
while also being way more usable
Python arrays are not commonly used as data structures in Python programming. Instead, the more commonly used data structure for numerical operations is the NumPy array. NumPy arrays provide efficient and convenient operations for numerical computations. Typecodes in Python arrays refer to the data type of the elements in the array, while NumPy arrays have a more flexible and powerful data type system.
is that chatgpt ?
did you copy and paste a chatgpt response?
did you type this yourself?
Yes

there isn't a simple solution to the problem of storing multiple data types in a numpy array
the existing options just look odd and complex
theyre just not for that tbf
Hello
fucking numpy
You should say Numerical Python.
Chithurst is a real Hollywood movie
Amaravati is only not a movie because chithurst is a bit better 😆
Real good English countryside at both
Python doesn’t have Arrays. It has lists.
I was about to say fuck you too then I saw the spelling
fucking numbily
Wait what you can't
Yes it does, the array module adds them
moreover, this was already mentioned
Weird. Helpful should have name change perms.
Indeed it does.
Just need a tip yall. I am an overachiever kind of person. There is this course I really struggle with so I joined a group to do the labs with. And now I am supposed to work with this person on the project. Like said I struggled and still struggle with all the concept and the course. The project is pretty important part of the final grade and prof is making us choose either basic or advanced project where if we choose basic we can't get over C on the course. My lab partner said he doesn't care about his grades so he will do whatever I choose. This obviously doesn't sound supportive (this mean he is prolly gonna end up being useless). I also have many other labs during this time so I don't know if I should go for advanced. What do I do?
<@&268886789983436800> idk if unsolicited google forms are allowed
no

it was probably an app issue, I could change the name but there was no option for saving the change
works normally in desktop
How are y'all doing today
I just came up with my first upper bound for the problem I'm working on for my undergrad thesis
It requires iterating over a list of size:
NotABot
Where r and the sequence of words (w_1, w_2, ..., w_n) are dependant variables
So it'll take at least a few billion years to run
It's a horrible, ugly, brute-force to hell and back solution
But it's a solution, and I love it 🙂
Hm, is there like an enter button on your keyboard? I was having trouble with this on my phone until I realized I had to press Done or smth like that on my phone keyboard
I do have one but it didn't work, I just did it using my laptop so it's fine for now
Weird
if you get 2x slower you get closer to something would it theoretically take infinity to reach that point cause you can go infinitely small in that space that's makes you slower
Yes, look up the hyperbolic plane
🤔 this is probably too advanced but it might have some links to interesting stuff https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poincaré_half-plane_model
my brain hurts
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u6Got0X41pY this intro should be accessible to anyone
funky words
my brain genuinely tickles
all this advanced math stuff is enough for my brain today
🙂
A very challenging Calculus 3 problem has been pasted into the multivariable calculus channel.....
Please stop posting this across different channels
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but its very interesting.....
lmfao
lol
Please stop advertising your YouTube channel
It’s lit tho
Please stop intervening and promoting Desmos-related content
It's disruptive
ly beautiful
Please stop interfering in my affairs
no
Yes u too
I said no.
🤣
I dont do what u ducks tell me
lmfao
lol
this isnt the place for advertisements
are there any good videos thay explain synthetic division? im so lost on how it works
I'm sure Khan academy
kk ty
hello
can i calculate trotal return on bond as :- YTM * Principal value?
is this valid since ytm is just rate of return
any help?
what is the average probability of losing someone important between 20-30 yrs old
anyone can calculate this statistics for EU?
!help
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!mentalhelp
You okay?
Consult actuarial statistics or smth lol
psychologist here (not true)
Very likely
It is about 78.24%
gn
gm
does anybody know a platform to practice math and learn math stuff
Textbooks
Aleks for simple stuff
why this exist
because it thinks
bunny evil
How many non-negative integers up to 100 can be represented as the sum of two other non-negative even integers
Unsorted combinations?
So we choose two?
out of 49
$$\binom{50}{1}$$
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$$\binom{o}{bese}$$
waterlemonz
lol
Haha
STOPPPPP COPYING ME
I'm doing better than you. Not copying you
??? mine looks beter
im gonna force u into my van 🤬
sadly why
u dont have to imagine cuz it will hapen to u
Not really
You won't come here atleast
Your country has travel restrictions most likely
You're strongly strongly not advised to come here
what cuntry
I won't say lol
No matter you can't find me
There's thousands of my name.
Rather millions.
? why i need name
How else would you find me
im not gonna say it here cuz of rules 🤫
? u cant stop me
i hereby bypass ur stop
Good stop your bicycle at someone else's stop
nop
Who's nop
nope
Mr Nope 
$$\log _5\left(\sqrt{5}\right)+\ln \left(e^{3.14}\right)+\ln \left(\frac{1}{100}\right)$$
waterlemonz
Yuckh
$$\binom{shush}$$
waterlemonz
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Fakemigi went out of existence
@acoustic yarrow
Or did i
Yeah just go already
whats the terminology for imagining time as a series of function transformations across each moment
or research terms
partial differential equation? 
partial differential equation. 
Would you need partial differentiation to find the maximum values of this?
W G O L & Q are variables
A guy I am supposed to work with for a project, our project plan should be turned in like 5h and he is not doing his part. I stated clearly to him to do his part yesterday, I said I will write about this and you about that, he said "sounds good". He then got in the shared docs and copy & pasted random shit from the syllabus (we agreed to do that but prof stated to rewrite the things so they actually make sense in our project) and wrote his name and then left the document. WTF am I supposed to do? It is not even really that hard, he is only expected to write 4-5 sentences on one part and then 2 sentences on the other. I can like write it in 10 min but it is making me a little mad, what do I do?
speak to the prof.
Chat, lets write the proof for this
so $n$ stones of $a^2$ area have to cover a surface of $n \cdot m$ area.
The task is to find the smallest $n$ required
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I solved the problem by doing the following :>
$n = \ceil{\frac{\max(n,m)}{a}} + \ceil{\frac{\min(n,m) - a}{a}} \cdot \ceil{\frac{\max(n,m)}{a}}$
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hey does anyone know how to avoid khan academy skipping a question when u spend too long doing a challenge? Or do u know how to go back to a question it skipped?
not good at algebra 2, but you can send me money anyways
Pfp name checks out
<@&268886789983436800>
it won't let me react 
do you have me blocked or something?
We have this course with a lot of group projects and my team don't seem to give a F that much, so I shared the doc for 3 previous assignments and slides. And now I am gonna share this one and I feel like it is getting annoying what do I do?
Both memebers have legit reasons for why they are busy but then they should not have signed up for this course. TBH it is me who joined their group because I had to get into groups and I feel like if they didn't intend to actually work (trust me I do understand and sympathize with them with whole my heart) then why even register for this course now?
You need to be upfront that there is a problem. If the group can't make and keep mutual commitments, you need to talk to your prof.
They have already explained to me their reasons, and I do understand them and I feel bad to rat them out. Not to mention there is nothing prof will do about it other than saying work it out.
I've been there before and I was too afraid of confrontation. Ended up pulling many all nighters to finish group work. It was a bad situation
You don't know what the prof will say
One has an extremely sick mom whilst the other has children, so I would feel horrible to rat them out like that.
Then you can fall on your sword and do the all the work
If they have legit issues, they should tell the prof. anyway
yeah 100% with you on that
They should withdraw from the class while they can. In no world should you be responsible for their other commitments
For the project we have been given different part of the isssue. We have worked on it indivdually a lot so I can't write the result & conclusion part alone.
that is what I've thinking
Parts of me feel like that
Because although I sympathaize with them, I've my own problems
You don't need to be mean, but you should communicate professionally with them and the prof. if needed
The problem is that they always say yes, that is the problem. I tell them to choose this or that, they choose and then it is dead until the last minute or I say something. Then they say yes they will do it and then they don't.
We had a really big individual assignment that will be included in the group assignment and guess what they started on it like a couple of hours before dead line.
Average group project problem
My advice is to email the prof. explaining everything. Include evidence.
lol didnt i answer this ages ago today
^
simple.
That was my plan if we failed, but then again I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt. But I hate confrontation lol.
its better to do it early than later
later is more of an excuse
for failing
early, things can be dealt with to some extent
But wouldn't the prof tell them I said so lol. I know these people even tho they are not my friend and then going to class would just be cringe.
going to class with people responsible for you failing would be no less cringe
and well if you don't do it and fail then you can only blame yourself at that point
Ig you're right, my point is they are last minute people. The only assignment we have turned in so far, even if they did it last minute they managed so that is why I wanna give them the benefit of the doubt.
Its either ultimate hard work or telling the truth to the prof. Ig if the two peeps youre with have other things to do,they will understand why you ratted them out. And for your own conscious maybe confront the two, and make em understand how hard it is getting doing the work of three
I tried that is how I got the excuses, and then directly I had nothing to say.
I faced this situation many a times, all i did was to confront my team a few times, if they didnt mend their ways i had no choice other than to go to the higher authority. You cant expect me to do their work, for the credits are for all.
true, these people never have time to meet on campus thos it has been only texts. The only time I met them on campus was for the presentation and when I tried to be straightforward with them. They dropped their excuse on me.
BTW I really appreciate talking to you guys, just having yall support me means so much to me rn, it made me feel like less of an asshole. And I will try to take your advice.
Being true isnt being an asshole
You have every right to ratt them out
/had
From the first day itself
Yes I am try to get that thru my thick skull cuz I am going through the same thing on my other course, another project. Hell I have the worst luck of groups.
I never had a decent group.
I mean you are a good person, you helped as much as you can. But they, were not Entitled to that help. That was like a bonus they got and should be self-respecting enough to get back to work
what’s a good senior quote for a math lover
hessian is jacobian of the gradient
what
exactly
learn more to find out
another one that I like is that there are no nontrivial ideals in a field
Calculater
G/ker f ~= im f
to quote a famous mathematician: "high on potenuse"
dom f / ker f === im f
===
Bro screw uni too i didnt think group work with awful members was a part of uni. I thought you were more flexible and self-working then turns out it's wrong lol
I hate group work
Or sharing my ideas in general lol
"the second derivative is the derivative of the derivative" wow, deep
Welcome to the real world
Hows that the Real worlde
Sharing ideas sucks
Do i really have to to survive in this society
🗣️
Human knowledge exists only because it builds upon itself
Being able to work in a group is a key life skill
I like sharing ideas with people who actually talk about intellectual stuff but not normal people
U aint gonna be in uni forever
Again, welcome to the real world, not everyone is like this and u need to learn how to deal with it
What if the group consists of partying dorks who smoke and talk Trash about you. Thats hs kinda
True
I just need to deal with it
R u in hs?
Yes 9th
Bruh smoking in hs? 💀💀💀💀
Nah actually i take it back id be mad also
Those typa kids are annoying asf and u alr know they gonna be homeless at 25
Fr but its not gonna last forever
Right
Luckily at my school they are extremely strict and have vape detectors in every room
They Always do it in the bathroom
Vaping dropped to 0 within 2 years after they added an automatic suspension rule
Once i wanted a free toilet stall and everywhere in the school it was locked up with people vaping lol
It's kinda dumb
Ours have vape detectors that automatically lock the bathroom doors when they set off
Thats good
And then the kids get drug tested and suspended if they r in the bathroom ( and test positive ofc)
If Theyre gonna destroy their lungs they should do it correctly but vaping to be cool is just childish
Not people id wanna be around of course
Anyways yeah it's a problem
Nowadays
Sadly
I can not understand any of this
try the natural number game
tbh i dont understand lean well enough to parse most of that yet, but the natural number game was fun
what language is this
lean
So we have a set A which contains n elements ( cameras ) and within set A there are 3 Subsets B, C and D.
A subset for the cameras looking at the first diamond , a subset looking at the second diamond and another looking at both diamonds
To take diamond 1 you would need all cameras in B & D to be disabled.
Note: If the longest timer the longest remaining timer is less than the number of cameras in either required set then it is impossible to take diamond 1
im pissed dude
at my school the literal earliest you can take calc is 11th grade
Spawn point diff
; (
we learned calc in 11tg
You could had taken it at any age if you parents helped you study at home
shut 👏
but nowadays they introduce basic limit manipulations to 10th graders
my parents probably couldnt even solve x+7=10
spawn point diff
Should've picked better parents
Result:
3
SHUT 👏
WHAT
mb ill go back to character creation
are you in 11th grade?
yeah
pain
but i only became academically successful this year
so it's a little too late for me to do calc in hs (like in school at least)
so imma just self study it before i go to college
that's a good plan
so if $\sum^\text{active timers} s_i < \sum_{n=1}^\text{active timers} 1$ there is no way to solve the problem?
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only three people solved this?
what site is this
I forgot the name
codeforces
So combinatorics teaches you how to count
there's also the binomial distribution for calculating
But i'm not sure how i would use the binomial distribution for things that aren't poly nomials
For example
I know how to prove if it is possible to find an x,y or z for a given n. but idk how to actually FIND those x y and z's
what should i do?
I think bro went to sleep
who is bro?
eclipseryu
I'm just speaking into the void hoping allahu hears my words
isn't he helping?
idk
nice mutual servers tho
true

anyone knows calculus
Who's asking?
what do mean by who's asking
Who are you
For differential calculus? should take max two weeks.
Integral calculus? Max two weeks.
Multivariable calculus? outside my pay grade
Max three weeks if you do it right
did it also took you 2 weeks
A lot of people get tripped up on the whole >1D thing
in which class are you in
I teach Geometric Algebra 2 and Introduction to Geometric Calculus at Wraithlord U
can we be friends
i know a bit about psychology i can teach that to you
can you teach me maths
You haven't even shown me a theorem yet
which theorem
Nor have I, you
sorry???
Yes we can be friends
I was just saying, we haven't even shown eachother theorems
All my friends show me theorems
of calculus?
Sometimes
Me too
can you plz send me the friend request coz i dont know how to
It's so over
Easiest problem ever!
oh wait
they're asking for minimum brigthness not shortest path
what type of math is this?
Geometric Algebra
really?
It's a situation where GA might make sense to use
Particularly CGA
I can use it to find circles and lines from points, intersect circles and lines, and find distances
The problem is deceptively difficult
I'm still thinking through a solution
I'm being stubborn and won't write anything down
Seems simple enough
No idea if my solution actually works
Does anyone know the average grade level of mathematical skill of the average american adult?
3rd grade maybe
The Program for the International Assessment of Adult Competencies (PIAAC) — Welcome to PIAAC Results
Thank u! Appreciated
https://qz.com/638845/americans-are-spectacularly-bad-at-answering-even-the-most-basic-math-questions this article explains some of the information from the report
what year level are you?
Happy birthday
It's not my birthday today
my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
In math, Americans with a high school diploma performed about the same as high school dropouts in other countries.
but they earn more lol
america truly is pathetic
and i say this as an american
good thing i was raised as a dual citizen haha
discussy2
electric boogaloo
bruh
anyway
i was thinking of studying linear algebr
what are the prereqs and where should i start
depends
do you want to study it in an applied setting or a pure setting
pure
how about a balance between pure and applied but more inclined towards pure
axler
the author or the book

Linear Algebra Done Right, by Sheldon Axler
for pure youd need to know about some field stuff (mostly just what they are and some properties of them) and maybe a tiny bit of set theory (just like set operations and what sets are) and you should be good i think? also know proof techniques obviously
for applied you dont need fields and you may or may not need sets depending on how applied it is
for applied just be good at algebra
and arithmetic
(theres a lot of it)
F_1 incident
Actually a fun challenge to try to apply theorems to vector space over F_1 and derive a contradiction that signifies such space does not exist
probably too trivial tho
a fair lol
Every vector space(but not ncs module) has a basis
yes?
do modules not have basis vectors?
Easy i found it
are you talking about free modules
idk i dont know much about modules
consider C_n as a module over Z
i just nkow theyre vector spaces but with rings instead of fields
remind me what C_n is?
Z/nZ
a
ah ok, i was referring to #serious-discussion message so yeah
i thought that was Z_n
i just prefr C bc cyclic
notations
a fair
Finite sets exist. Checkmate. 
what is the sum of two elements in a finite set
how are they a vector space
hi
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh don't worry about it
F1 exists.
hello hru
I'm good hbu
good~ish
pat
did you pass?
i haven't seen my results but ...
I see
👀
👀
👁🗨
It's joever
How do these companies expect 
DEBUNKEDDDDDD
just add them 
And get what.
(In all seriousness, the motivation for this is that a dim k vector space over F_q has cardinality 1+q+q^2+...+q^(k-1), so setting q = 1 gives a set of cardinality k.)
(So finite-dimensional vector spaces over F_1 should be finite sets, with a special distinguished element for zero.)
besides F1 should have characteristic one, so adding any element one time should give zero
Whether this really works or not, I have no idea
This is one of the things that doesn't transfer because having F1 the same as the zero ring would be bad™️
And non-enlightening
so, what, does it have char zero?
I mean we do say it has characteristic one, but we ignore the ways that this doesn't work

consider the set A={0,a,b} as an F1 vecspace, and fix an isomorphism f: A->(F1)³. what is f^-1(f(a)+f(a))?
Yor bunk has been evaporated
We don't care so much about 'vector spaces' over F_un so much as other objects
For example algebraic groups
GL(n, F_q) looks like S_n plus some extra stuff (trust me bro). And so the hypothetical GL(n, F_un) is just S_n
The point here being that somehow we care about this S_n structure
We can analyse this without F_un so frankly this is where my understanding ends. The general point is that we don't actually consider it as having vector spaces, and perhaps more directly nobody thinks there is such a field
I'm talking about something called the Weyl group here, if you wanted to google it.
F_1 is a ghost
Spooky! How apt for today and indeed october in general
tfw you can prove RH if you can prove enough things about F_1
Ohhhh okay so its mostly stuff I don't even know how to care about
F_1 is hard to care about when nobody even knows what the right definition should be
Yeag i always hear the vector space thing which has never made sense to me and never a definition bc its always prefaced with "this cant exist but"
yeah there are things like this that don't literally exist as definitions/theorems but are too robust as analogies to ignore
the knots and primes analogy is another good example of this
whats that
primes behave like knots in a certain "3-manifold"
the "3-manifold" here being Spec(Z) which has cohomological dimension 3 by certain arithmetic duality theorems of Artin and Tate and others
it's not literally a 3-manifold in any reasonable sense
but for example the quadratic residue symbols of primes behave like a linking number for these "knots"
yeah the current market is brutal for juniors
its more like were going to hire mid's pay them like juniors and have them take senior responsability
ikr
FBI?!?!
grading is a scam lets go
I am working on a group assingment where I have shared a google doc with my group mates. Nobody is writing in the google doc. I am almost done with my part but I don't feel like pasting it in the shared doc cus then they might expect me to do the entire thing
One has said he is almost done to (I do believe him tbh), but should I put in my part?
What grade?
I had a group assignment in my first semester of college and something similar happened.
I just reported them to the teacher while we were working on the project and after it was done
I got a 100% idk about them
You should also be writing in the google doc so you have a record of everyone's contributions
That's what i used to report them
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WHAT
This is like
The thing I hate more than anything else in engineering
ANd it sucks because it's so common
It's just ugly to my math brain
All the fucking CORRECTION FACTORS and "eMpIrIcAl ReLaTiOnS"
AGH WHAT IS THIS?!?!?!?
What the acual heck is that
The equation to find the Nusselt number for a bank of tubes with < 20 rows
Yeah

Welcome to reality.
Yeah lol
These relationships are really just condensed ways summarizing a whole bunch of data
Ig? It's just math
I remember we did something similar for my mechanical design class
100000 different failure theories and coefficients to learn
Temperature coefficients, surface treatment coefficients, fuck my ass man that was a pain
Yeah
I never thought of it that way tbh
This is legit the first time I've ever realized why they're useful

I thought it was just because they're just nice parameters to describe a state
I have been searching for a few for bacteriophage kinetics for two years, because we try to go from 1ml experiments to 1000L batches and it's complicated
But biology is biology 😦
You do bio?
It does apply but it doesn't really help
The main problem is measurement
It's a predator prey system, but the replication depends in a nonlinear way on the metabolism of the bacteria

So a small change in growth rate of the host can have a huge impact on the burst size and latent period
And I can't really make the metabolism of the bacteria identical at the small scale because of equipment limitations
I'm sure there's a good dimensionless group, but I haven't found it.
Wow
Sorry I have nothing else to say, I jus thope I can be in your position one day
I’d love to do research and know what I’m talking about and do experiments and make models and struggle with the unknown and form my own theories and make my own discoveries
It's really not as cool as it sounds. I also spend days just being a glorified plumber
I literally attach and detach piping between process equipment
Clean tanks, prepare reagents. Test seals
There's a lot of grunt work
Oh are you a TA or lab assistant?
indeed, most things worth doing have grunt work :]
No, bioprocess engineer
There's just a lot of grunt, some of which I have to do
Partially it might be because I am in a pretty small company. There's a lot of intermittent tasks
"Oh Xenophon, we got a request for 100g of such and such from X. Can you make some?"
"oh, the halal inspector is coming. Can you make sure there's no cardboard in the fridge?"
True story
BROOOO YOU just BE MAKIN DRUGS??
That’s cool as fuck
Halal inspector? 😭
ok i already know very little about islam but now im even more confused 💀
I used to work with ketamine, yes. Making tablets, etc. The stuff I work with now has a variety of regulatory stories
I think cardboard creeps inspectors out because it absorbs shit over time
But QA is not my end of the pool
I just know that if I drop a ham sandwich in the equipment, it will never be halal again
Ohhh damn its nice to know halal inspectors actually care about things like that that i didnt even realise would make a difference
Why
Suppose lol

2 is not lvalue
nerd
also the original joke was unfunny
🤓
In math papers do people use clear unambgious language?
Or do they use unclear words idioms etc?
the latter
some notations can be obscure and not very familiar to people outside the niche area
Wait…doesn’t that make it harder to read?
Why not define it?
What is the point if a notation if not used?
They are defined somewhere, but you'll have to find it
Great so why be imprecise?
are we talking about acceptable levels of handwaving
Handwaving?
The point is to communicate. You could start from ZF and state everything and end up with 10,000 pages for a single thesis
I mean imprecision and ambiguity in language
Eh, have you actually read one?
"Unclear" as in not 100% unambiguous
but you can still infer the clear meaning
U have to bear in mind that math papers are not made for babies ti read. their job is not to be painstakingly unambiguous, but to be understood by the people they want to be understood by. Often that can mean taking notation for granted, abusing notations in certain ways, and resolving ambiguity through convention
Males sense that’s good that’s precise.
Wdym by abusing notation?
using notation in ways that arent strictly the same way its defined, but in a way thats suggestive
Wdym suggestive?
Do u just not know what that word means
if not, try to think about what the structure of the word "suggestive" ... suggests
My school filter blocks math stackexchange
I’m pretty sure Merosity is trolling and/or being sarcastic.
Math papers are meant to be unambiguous.
to the right audience they might be.
rather, their intended audience.
and that's a good math paper.
If not proofread very thoroughly, its not going to be surprising to have some funny bits
i mean computer science classes are ||usually boring||
That wasn't what I meant by the nooo
oh
what did you mean?
I just wanted her to stay for a while and talk
hi guys im back :D
Hi back :D
<@&268886789983436800> here too
Wait he was here too
hi back!
Nah leave it youmessed it up too
...
nah man...
he going to ur home
Can someone explain to me how math reading groups usually work? Do we read on the material during meetup or before the meetup? What do you do during the meetup and before the meetup? When do you assign problems and how do you evaluate comprehension of the topic for members of the group?
Thinking of starting a Spivak reading group with my friends but not really sure how to organize to make it impactful.
generally reading is something that people can do on their own time
meetups discuss what was read
you can do something like:
people read chapter, meetup to talk about issues and assign this chapters exercises to people (though everyone should at least look at them)
then the week after that, solutions are presented and discussed
continue this until done
How do you test the overall comprehension?
Like do you take pdfs of past exams and set a date for everyone to take the test?
hes gona steal ur lungs
Why would he do that?
why do you want to do that at all?
Well idk i just thought that it could be something to work toward? Like aren't people usually motivated to study more in depth to prepare for an assessment
Or do reading groups not have this usually?
then the assessment tests understanding 
reading groups require participiants to put in lots of work of their own volition
they can test their own understanding
aren't people usually motivated to study more in depth to prepare for an assessment
no
oh, i misunderstood that question actually 
you can do assessments in the traditional sense with exams, but its probably unnecessary
one can tell from just doing the exercises
like, people will know themselves and nobody wants to write exams, they are basically only a necessary evil to produce grades
Do problems together and individually
Each person will probably have a different goal for how in-depth they want to understand the material, so you should probably clarify this together
Also I would personally suggest that if it's a group of people you don't know too well, you have some meetings just for fun and not for the reading group per se
Up to you though
How to pronuce ä?
I think it was e
good advice, thanks!
also one question, is it the norm to make documents with this much space? Does that mean it is not for printing purposes or something? I'm not finding them easy on the eyes and apparently a lot of math documents are written like this. Is there any purpose to it?
Ok apparently I can't send images for some reason here
like ä, i dont know what to tell you
Ä in german like e in turkish
In pronuce
Or ie
i dont speak turkish
smh average german xenophobe /s
Look on tranlste
how about you just look up how to pronounce ä....
learn how to pronounce ı
im German i started learning turkish at 6 but im not fluent and my turkish sucks
I know how to pronounce ı tho
I can pronounce everything and grammar top too but lack of speaking creates people with skills like me
I can learn entire languages like English on my own but
Im too lazy when it comes to turkish rn lol
School comes first
(screw school)
Do you ever feel like other people learn faster than you. Like in school i feeel controlled by the constant need toraise my arm but i dont bc of anxiety but then my grade suffers and at home im scared to spend more time studying mathematics on my own because of all the other upcoming Exams in other subjects 😭
On top of thatI had to repeat 2 grades not because im stupid but because i just didnt do anything for school in those two years 3rd grade and 8th
Big bruh moment
So i feel kinda behind
How would you use combinatorics to solve this?
You are counting sums
Firstly exclude any numbers bigger than r from the set because they will be too big
Also depending on the types of sets you are working with it could make sense to cut it down further
maybe later
