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pulsar pagoda
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the only cool thing sclaa has going for it, its the fact it has a llvm implementation that replaces the jvm

jagged forge
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my coworker did scala and he hates it and this person we interviewed said every scala programmer he knows also hates scala

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seems like scala programmers are not fans of scala

wild lantern
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Do people actually use web asm?

vivid halo
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scala is so fucking bad lmao

pulsar pagoda
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to be fair

visual breach
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Lol

pulsar pagoda
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php 1 through 6\

stray kite
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the day children are brainwashed into learning haskell from age 5 i will be a happy man

visual breach
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I mean, Scala is C++ of FP world

pulsar pagoda
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was trash

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@visual breach have u seen f# though

visual breach
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Yep

vivid halo
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whoever thought it was a good idea to build a functional language on top of jvm was an absolute moron

stray kite
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isn tit bad

visual breach
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F# seems fine to me.

pulsar pagoda
wild lantern
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We just keep using higher letters.

pulsar pagoda
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i actually think f# is cool ngl

wild lantern
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This will never work. Eventually we'll run out.

pulsar pagoda
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i just havent found any excuse to use it

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like

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i wish f# would replace python

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ngl

stray kite
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whats wrong with python

pulsar pagoda
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its python

jagged forge
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i like python

pulsar pagoda
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thats whats wrong with python

wild lantern
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They all suck

pulsar pagoda
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like

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the whole

stray kite
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you can make any human a coding monkey

visual breach
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Python is there simply because you can so easily make something not working there

stray kite
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whats not to love about it

wild lantern
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Python's problem is it's a programming language. This is a common blunder.

pulsar pagoda
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there should be one and only one possible way of solving a problem mentality

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makes my brain rot

jagged forge
jagged forge
visual breach
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Golang does make me lose hope to humanity.

jagged forge
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no one takes the zen of python seriously anymore

pulsar pagoda
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idc about any other version tbh

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those are the ones ive had to use

stray kite
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theres still python2 programs out there

jagged forge
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it hasn’t been true for years

stray kite
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somehow

wild lantern
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Python lambdas are very angerysad

pulsar pagoda
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its not about functionality ok

visual breach
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Nah, not related with FP. But python is not functional, ye

pulsar pagoda
jagged forge
wild lantern
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Gottagofast

jagged forge
pulsar pagoda
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how else am i gonna render those 3d motion animations of my vtubers

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lol

jagged forge
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the concept of offloading compute to c libraries

wild lantern
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Isn't shit like cython supposed to help wjth speed? I've never used python in a context where performance matters.

wild lantern
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Might as well just switch languages.

stray kite
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ok, then, thanks for ruining my life for the next week with a new programming language @jagged forge

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bye

jagged forge
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python has good performance as long as you don’t do the slow bits in python

wild lantern
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It's a scripting language. Square peg round hole.

jagged forge
pulsar pagoda
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but i think python is still only good for prototypes

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once u have a product going on

wild lantern
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Or like skeleton code around high performance shit maybe?

visual breach
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Yea, most of the problem of python is that

pulsar pagoda
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and its generating revenue

jagged forge
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that is what it’s good for

visual breach
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Prototypes often happen to live long

wild lantern
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Just think, you could be using bash.

pulsar pagoda
visual breach
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Idk whyyy people really like that

jagged forge
pulsar pagoda
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zzzzzz

jagged forge
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don’t say the r word here

viral condor
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but it's really friendly for new learner.

pulsar pagoda
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yeah

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and then u get a job

wild lantern
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I know ppl like all these new fangled build systems, but I kinda like plain ol' makefiles for misc bs

pulsar pagoda
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and just use that

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for the rest of ur life

viral condor
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lol

visual breach
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Makefiles work yea

jagged forge
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python also just has a superior ecosystem for data manipulation

pulsar pagoda
stray kite
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what do you think of julia

pulsar pagoda
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like

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python makes u productive yes

jagged forge
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Julia could be good, probably much smaller community as of now but we’ll see where that goes

stray kite
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i just use it wherever im required to use python

pulsar pagoda
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good

jagged forge
pulsar pagoda
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just document ur stuff properly

pulsar pagoda
mental stratus
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Julia 😻

pulsar pagoda
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but then ull have someone who will try to make a k8s implementation in python

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or even worse nodejs

stray kite
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the existence of nodejs annoys me

jagged forge
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for a wide range of data manipulation tasks, mvp or not, dataframe libraries are the optimal way to do it

pulsar pagoda
stray kite
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its 2050 the only language around is javascript everyone is mandated to learn it from age 10

pulsar pagoda
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like

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i would actually like js being superseeded by ts

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and browsers actually interperting ts

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that would be ideal

stray kite
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they created node so that they could make their frontend devs do backend dev without learning a new language

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now you can employ your little javascript code monkeys

pulsar pagoda
jagged forge
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i like js for things under 100 lines and that’s it KEK

stray kite
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2 months of training to become the model fullstack developer

pulsar pagoda
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and like

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not even mad at u

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thats just what it is

stray kite
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if algebraic topology fails i wonder if reactjs will be around when i finish my phd

jagged forge
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it almost certainly will

pulsar pagoda
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php is still a thing u know

stray kite
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when it came out i really thought it was last 2 years

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i guess we have a million other frameworks now but it still exists

stray kite
pulsar pagoda
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front end devs

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are pepegs

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most of them only know how to turn their computer and boot vscode

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ngl

jagged forge
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well

stray kite
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i like when cs majors complain about their courses because it doesnt relate to their passion of making reactjs apps

jagged forge
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frontend devs have to know a bunch of shit about how the browser works

stray kite
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i wonder if i could be employed as a frontend dev

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probably

jagged forge
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also they have to care about how their code is bundled and stuff

pulsar pagoda
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there are things for that

jagged forge
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personally as a backend dev i ship my fat go binaries in giant Ubuntu containers and never give a shit

pulsar pagoda
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like

stray kite
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you tell the npm thing to do the thing it make bundle.min.js

pulsar pagoda
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esbuild

jagged forge
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i just do go build and fuggedaboutit

pulsar pagoda
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i have built container images by myself

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just using fucking alpine and shit

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zzzzzz

jagged forge
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yeah the only reason we use ubuntu at work is because when shit goes south and you have to exec into containers

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it’s nice to have the familiar environment

pulsar pagoda
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i have done the whole linux from scratch book

jagged forge
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nice

pulsar pagoda
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had to

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job required it

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also now that i know as much as i know of linux

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i would setup gentoo if i had to work on software in c/cpp

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specially if i had to cross compile

jagged forge
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do u want to know how to cross compile in golang

pulsar pagoda
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like doesnt the gcc front end handle that for u?

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or is there a llvm front end for go lang?

jagged forge
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GOARCH=amd64 GOOS=linux go build .

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the go compiler is its own whole thing

pulsar pagoda
jagged forge
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they even have their own virtual assembly language for reasons i am not sure

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plan 9 assembly

nocturne tusk
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oh god the programming has invaded discussy 2

jagged forge
pulsar pagoda
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we should just ask for a ranting channel for CS

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tbh

jagged forge
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yeah

visual breach
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True

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Also interesting how many people here have some agreements about programming

pulsar pagoda
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@jagged forge have u used any blazor

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like

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ngl

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i would actually enjoy front end development

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if i had to use that

jagged forge
viral condor
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could I have some as a beginner?

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on programming

pulsar pagoda
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its a web assembly front end framework for c#

jagged forge
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have what

viral condor
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agreements

jagged forge
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what what

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agreements on what

peak tide
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front-end dev is like a different universe from "normal" dev haha

pulsar pagoda
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those guys dont even care how a computer works

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as far as im concerned

viral condor
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maybe there are plenty of programming masters hiding here.

peak tide
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don't care and don't know most likely

jagged forge
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well like i said, they do have to care about a bunch of browser stuff

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cookies, cors, other random headers, and the abomination that is js build systems

peak tide
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horrid

jagged forge
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i had to learn about it when i wanted to use external packages in bitburner (a game that lets you automate stuff in javascript)

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my solution was bundling catKing

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then i learned about the fact that most packages work only in the browser or on the server but not both

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and that was a pain in the ass

pulsar pagoda
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and the they had the brilliant idea of using docker containers to host front end apps

jagged forge
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who did now

pulsar pagoda
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ive seen people do that

jagged forge
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that’s uhhhh

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bad

pulsar pagoda
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there are multiple reasons for it being bad

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one is the fact that ur not using a proper web server like nginx

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or a premade solution from a cloud provider

jagged forge
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surely you’re not referring to the normal practice of running a web server from a container

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you’re saying they ran the frontend in a container as well?

pulsar pagoda
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no im refering to people making a env for a react app

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and shipping that container as is

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and just running the npm script

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in their package.json

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then in the worst case

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having a vm run that container

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and just opening ports

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ive seen shit

jagged forge
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idk what that means, i don’t do frontend i guess

pulsar pagoda
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to be fair

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back then I had sort of dev ops responsabilities

visual breach
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Whattt

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Well actually

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Don't people just let the web server in the container deliver the js content to frontend?

vivid halo
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rational numbers are those that can be represented as a quotient a/b for integers a and b. Irrationals cannot be expressed in this way; numbers like sqrt{2} or pi are irrational.

The decimal expansion of any rational number is eventually repeating (in other words you can always find some repeating pattern in the decimal expansion after throwing away finitely many digits at the start of the decimal expansion). Irrational numbers never have repeating patterns like this.

viral condor
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that's the explicit difference between rational and irrational numbers.

viral condor
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division remainder dym?

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any rational number could be expressed by q/p(q,p are both integer and p isn't 0),q and p are mutually prime numbers.

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but the irrational numbers such as √2 and π,can't be expressed by q/p mentioned above.

grand mantle
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try a number theory book

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like an introduction to the theory of numbers by Niven

lavish kayak
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I visited chithurst and amaravti monasteries in England, was a delight

viral condor
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is the scenery there beautiful?

mental stratus
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are python arrays even used commonly or should i only ever use numpy arrays?

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what even are these typecode thingys

burnt ledge
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whats a python array

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list?

mental stratus
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from array import array

burnt ledge
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yh leave those

mossy pier
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Hey!

burnt ledge
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numpy is better anyway.

mental stratus
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i figured after you had to ask KEK

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book covers arrays and memoryview and i was like what does this do for me that numpy doesn't already

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while also being way more usable

mossy pier
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Python arrays are not commonly used as data structures in Python programming. Instead, the more commonly used data structure for numerical operations is the NumPy array. NumPy arrays provide efficient and convenient operations for numerical computations. Typecodes in Python arrays refer to the data type of the elements in the array, while NumPy arrays have a more flexible and powerful data type system.

mental stratus
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is that chatgpt ?

mossy pier
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Thats the best i can explain

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No i don't use chatgpt

mental stratus
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did you copy and paste a chatgpt response?

mental stratus
mossy pier
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Yes

mental stratus
mossy pier
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ChatGPT doesn't teach you anything anyway.

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Just trying to help.

river moon
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there isn't a simple solution to the problem of storing multiple data types in a numpy array

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the existing options just look odd and complex

burnt ledge
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theyre just not for that tbf

neat lintel
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Hello

mossy pier
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You should say Numerical Python.

lavish kayak
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Amaravati is only not a movie because chithurst is a bit better 😆

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Real good English countryside at both

vocal vessel
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Python doesn’t have Arrays. It has lists.

storm sage
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It has numpy arrays

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:^

vocal vessel
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Yeah. I meant not natively

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Tho I suppose under the hood it’s all arrays 😝

echo tundra
long matrix
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fucking numbily

echo tundra
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Also why TF can't I change my name

split pawn
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Wait what you can't

burnt ledge
burnt ledge
storm sage
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Indeed it does.

deft iron
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Just need a tip yall. I am an overachiever kind of person. There is this course I really struggle with so I joined a group to do the labs with. And now I am supposed to work with this person on the project. Like said I struggled and still struggle with all the concept and the course. The project is pretty important part of the final grade and prof is making us choose either basic or advanced project where if we choose basic we can't get over C on the course. My lab partner said he doesn't care about his grades so he will do whatever I choose. This obviously doesn't sound supportive (this mean he is prolly gonna end up being useless). I also have many other labs during this time so I don't know if I should go for advanced. What do I do?

echo tundra
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<@&268886789983436800> idk if unsolicited google forms are allowed

leaden torrent
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no

echo tundra
echo tundra
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works normally in desktop

granite hound
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How are y'all doing today

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I just came up with my first upper bound for the problem I'm working on for my undergrad thesis

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It requires iterating over a list of size:

fathom swallowBOT
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NotABot

granite hound
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Where r and the sequence of words (w_1, w_2, ..., w_n) are dependant variables

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So it'll take at least a few billion years to run

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It's a horrible, ugly, brute-force to hell and back solution

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But it's a solution, and I love it 🙂

storm sage
echo tundra
storm sage
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Weird

tawdry dome
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if you get 2x slower you get closer to something would it theoretically take infinity to reach that point cause you can go infinitely small in that space that's makes you slower

storm sage
tawdry dome
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my brain hurts

storm sage
tawdry dome
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funky words

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my brain genuinely tickles

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all this advanced math stuff is enough for my brain today

storm sage
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🙂

sick prism
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A very challenging Calculus 3 problem has been pasted into the multivariable calculus channel.....

storm sage
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!noadvert

quasi jettyBOT
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Please do not advertise your help channel or thread in other parts of the server. There are many people who need help, and no one person can be prioritized over other people, so please patiently wait. Anyone who chooses to help you is a volunteer who is doing so out of their own kindness.

fervent flame
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but its very interesting.....

hasty peak
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jerryW lmfao

solar hawk
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lol

split pawn
solar hawk
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It’s lit tho

icy locust
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It's disruptive

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ly beautiful

split pawn
long matrix
split pawn
long matrix
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I said no.

split pawn
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🤣

long matrix
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I dont do what u ducks tell me

ocean harbor
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lmfao

solar hawk
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lol

hidden isle
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🦆

surreal sapphire
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this isnt the place for advertisements

halcyon wigeon
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are there any good videos thay explain synthetic division? im so lost on how it works

little vine
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I'm sure Khan academy

halcyon wigeon
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kk ty

fallow zodiac
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hello
can i calculate trotal return on bond as :- YTM * Principal value?
is this valid since ytm is just rate of return
any help?

neat lintel
tribal slate
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what is the average probability of losing someone important between 20-30 yrs old

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anyone can calculate this statistics for EU?

sonic field
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!help

quasi jettyBOT
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To ask for mathematics help on this server, please open your own help channel or help thread. See #❓how-to-get-help for instructions.

stone ferry
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!mentalhelp

silver hawk
inner hawk
viral condor
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gn

ocean harbor
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gm

neat lintel
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does anybody know a platform to practice math and learn math stuff

tepid token
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Textbooks

neat lintel
neat lintel
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oh

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thanks

acoustic yarrow
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why this exist

neat lintel
acoustic yarrow
neat lintel
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How many non-negative integers up to 100 can be represented as the sum of two other non-negative even integers

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Unsorted combinations?

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So we choose two?

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out of 49

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$$\binom{50}{1}$$

fathom swallowBOT
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<:F_button:1095679234497843251>

acoustic yarrow
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$$\binom{o}{bese}$$

fathom swallowBOT
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waterlemonz

acoustic yarrow
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lol

fathom swallowBOT
split pawn
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Haha

acoustic yarrow
split pawn
acoustic yarrow
split pawn
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Lol

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Yuckh. All of them look like variables forced into a binomial

acoustic yarrow
split pawn
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Sadly

acoustic yarrow
split pawn
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Imagine kidnapping someone on a bicycle

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Lol

acoustic yarrow
split pawn
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You won't come here atleast

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Your country has travel restrictions most likely

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You're strongly strongly not advised to come here

acoustic yarrow
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what cuntry

split pawn
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I won't say lol

acoustic yarrow
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u dont gotta tell me

split pawn
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There's thousands of my name.

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Rather millions.

acoustic yarrow
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? why i need name

split pawn
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How else would you find me

acoustic yarrow
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im not gonna say it here cuz of rules 🤫

split pawn
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Lol

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Good

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I hereby disallow you from locating me

acoustic yarrow
split pawn
acoustic yarrow
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i hereby bypass ur stop

split pawn
acoustic yarrow
split pawn
acoustic yarrow
split pawn
acoustic yarrow
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$$\log _5\left(\sqrt{5}\right)+\ln \left(e^{3.14}\right)+\ln \left(\frac{1}{100}\right)$$

fathom swallowBOT
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waterlemonz

split pawn
fathom swallowBOT
acoustic yarrow
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bro

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bad formatting

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honestly

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mine is dark mode

split pawn
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Yuck

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Shioo

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Shooo

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Yay. He's gone.

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Peace of discussion prevails.

acoustic yarrow
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$$\binom{shush}$$

fathom swallowBOT
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waterlemonz
Compile Error! Click the errors reaction for more information.
(You may edit your message to recompile.)

split pawn
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Fakemigi went out of existence

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@acoustic yarrow

acoustic yarrow
split pawn
ocean scarab
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whats the terminology for imagining time as a series of function transformations across each moment

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or research terms

river moon
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partial differential equation? catThimc

sonic field
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partial differential equation. catThink

neat lintel
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Would you need partial differentiation to find the maximum values of this?

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W G O L & Q are variables

river moon
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no

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it's hopeless catThimc

deft iron
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A guy I am supposed to work with for a project, our project plan should be turned in like 5h and he is not doing his part. I stated clearly to him to do his part yesterday, I said I will write about this and you about that, he said "sounds good". He then got in the shared docs and copy & pasted random shit from the syllabus (we agreed to do that but prof stated to rewrite the things so they actually make sense in our project) and wrote his name and then left the document. WTF am I supposed to do? It is not even really that hard, he is only expected to write 4-5 sentences on one part and then 2 sentences on the other. I can like write it in 10 min but it is making me a little mad, what do I do?

long matrix
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speak to the prof.

neat lintel
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Chat, lets write the proof for this

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so $n$ stones of $a^2$ area have to cover a surface of $n \cdot m$ area.
The task is to find the smallest $n$ required

fathom swallowBOT
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<:F_button:1095679234497843251>

neat lintel
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I solved the problem by doing the following :>

$n = \ceil{\frac{\max(n,m)}{a}} + \ceil{\frac{\min(n,m) - a}{a}} \cdot \ceil{\frac{\max(n,m)}{a}}$

fathom swallowBOT
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<:F_button:1095679234497843251>

acoustic yarrow
woven glade
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hey does anyone know how to avoid khan academy skipping a question when u spend too long doing a challenge? Or do u know how to go back to a question it skipped?

split pawn
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Yes

neat lintel
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not good at algebra 2, but you can send me money anyways

echo tundra
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Pfp name checks out

long matrix
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<@&268886789983436800>

ocean harbor
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do you have me blocked or something?

deft iron
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We have this course with a lot of group projects and my team don't seem to give a F that much, so I shared the doc for 3 previous assignments and slides. And now I am gonna share this one and I feel like it is getting annoying what do I do?

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Both memebers have legit reasons for why they are busy but then they should not have signed up for this course. TBH it is me who joined their group because I had to get into groups and I feel like if they didn't intend to actually work (trust me I do understand and sympathize with them with whole my heart) then why even register for this course now?

last creek
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You need to be upfront that there is a problem. If the group can't make and keep mutual commitments, you need to talk to your prof.

deft iron
last creek
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I've been there before and I was too afraid of confrontation. Ended up pulling many all nighters to finish group work. It was a bad situation

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You don't know what the prof will say

deft iron
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One has an extremely sick mom whilst the other has children, so I would feel horrible to rat them out like that.

last creek
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Then you can fall on your sword and do the all the work

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If they have legit issues, they should tell the prof. anyway

deft iron
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yeah 100% with you on that

last creek
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They should withdraw from the class while they can. In no world should you be responsible for their other commitments

deft iron
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For the project we have been given different part of the isssue. We have worked on it indivdually a lot so I can't write the result & conclusion part alone.

deft iron
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Parts of me feel like that

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Because although I sympathaize with them, I've my own problems

last creek
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You don't need to be mean, but you should communicate professionally with them and the prof. if needed

deft iron
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The problem is that they always say yes, that is the problem. I tell them to choose this or that, they choose and then it is dead until the last minute or I say something. Then they say yes they will do it and then they don't.

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We had a really big individual assignment that will be included in the group assignment and guess what they started on it like a couple of hours before dead line.

latent edge
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Average group project problem

last creek
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My advice is to email the prof. explaining everything. Include evidence.

long matrix
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lol didnt i answer this ages ago today

deft iron
long matrix
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its better to do it early than later

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later is more of an excuse

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for failing

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early, things can be dealt with to some extent

deft iron
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But wouldn't the prof tell them I said so lol. I know these people even tho they are not my friend and then going to class would just be cringe.

river moon
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going to class with people responsible for you failing would be no less cringe

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and well if you don't do it and fail then you can only blame yourself at that point

deft iron
neat lintel
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Its either ultimate hard work or telling the truth to the prof. Ig if the two peeps youre with have other things to do,they will understand why you ratted them out. And for your own conscious maybe confront the two, and make em understand how hard it is getting doing the work of three

deft iron
neat lintel
deft iron
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BTW I really appreciate talking to you guys, just having yall support me means so much to me rn, it made me feel like less of an asshole. And I will try to take your advice.

neat lintel
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Being true isnt being an asshole

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You have every right to ratt them out

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/had

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From the first day itself

deft iron
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Yes I am try to get that thru my thick skull cuz I am going through the same thing on my other course, another project. Hell I have the worst luck of groups.

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I never had a decent group.

neat lintel
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I mean you are a good person, you helped as much as you can. But they, were not Entitled to that help. That was like a bonus they got and should be self-respecting enough to get back to work

violet coral
#

what’s a good senior quote for a math lover

river moon
#

hessian is jacobian of the gradient

violet coral
#

what

river moon
#

exactly

violet coral
#

😭😭

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i don’t get it

river moon
#

learn more to find outsotrue

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another one that I like is that there are no nontrivial ideals in a field

little vine
#

Calculater

neat lintel
#

G/ker f ~= im f

neat lintel
long matrix
#

dom f / ker f === im f

mental stratus
#

===

neat lintel
#

I hate group work

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Or sharing my ideas in general lol

storm sage
acoustic yarrow
neat lintel
#

Sharing ideas sucks

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Do i really have to to survive in this society

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🗣️

acoustic yarrow
neat lintel
#

True

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Maybe ive just met the wrong people

acoustic yarrow
#

Being able to work in a group is a key life skill

neat lintel
#

I like sharing ideas with people who actually talk about intellectual stuff but not normal people

acoustic yarrow
#

U aint gonna be in uni forever

acoustic yarrow
neat lintel
#

What if the group consists of partying dorks who smoke and talk Trash about you. Thats hs kinda

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True

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I just need to deal with it

acoustic yarrow
#

R u in hs?

neat lintel
#

Yes 9th

acoustic yarrow
#

Bruh smoking in hs? 💀💀💀💀

neat lintel
#

Yes

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People vaping

acoustic yarrow
#

Nah actually i take it back id be mad also

#

Those typa kids are annoying asf and u alr know they gonna be homeless at 25

neat lintel
#

They Always vape and think It's cool

#

Hahah true but rich parents help them

acoustic yarrow
neat lintel
#

Right

acoustic yarrow
#

Luckily at my school they are extremely strict and have vape detectors in every room

neat lintel
#

They Always do it in the bathroom

acoustic yarrow
#

Vaping dropped to 0 within 2 years after they added an automatic suspension rule

neat lintel
#

Once i wanted a free toilet stall and everywhere in the school it was locked up with people vaping lol

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It's kinda dumb

acoustic yarrow
neat lintel
#

In the break

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Lol

acoustic yarrow
#

And then the kids get drug tested and suspended if they r in the bathroom ( and test positive ofc)

neat lintel
#

If Theyre gonna destroy their lungs they should do it correctly but vaping to be cool is just childish

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Not people id wanna be around of course

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Anyways yeah it's a problem

#

Nowadays

acoustic yarrow
#

Sadly

neat lintel
#

I can not understand any of this

jagged forge
#

try the natural number game

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tbh i dont understand lean well enough to parse most of that yet, but the natural number game was fun

neat lintel
#

I'm gonna prove this

ocean harbor
#

what language is this

neat lintel
#

So we have a set A which contains n elements ( cameras ) and within set A there are 3 Subsets B, C and D.
A subset for the cameras looking at the first diamond , a subset looking at the second diamond and another looking at both diamonds

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peepoHmmTo take diamond 1 you would need all cameras in B & D to be disabled.

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Note: If the longest timer the longest remaining timer is less than the number of cameras in either required set then it is impossible to take diamond 1

tender cobalt
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im pissed dude

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at my school the literal earliest you can take calc is 11th grade

neat lintel
tender cobalt
mental stratus
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we learned calc in 11tg

neat lintel
tender cobalt
mental stratus
#

but nowadays they introduce basic limit manipulations to 10th graders

tender cobalt
neat lintel
#

Should've picked better parents

fathom swallowBOT
#

Result:

3
tender cobalt
tender cobalt
#

mb ill go back to character creation

neat lintel
#

are you in 11th grade?

tender cobalt
neat lintel
#

pain

tender cobalt
#

but i only became academically successful this year

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so it's a little too late for me to do calc in hs (like in school at least)

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so imma just self study it before i go to college

neat lintel
#

that's a good plan

neat lintel
fathom swallowBOT
#

<:F_button:1095679234497843251>

neat lintel
#

e_blue_shocked only three people solved this?

misty aurora
#

I forgot the name

neat lintel
#

So combinatorics teaches you how to count

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there's also the binomial distribution for calculating

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But i'm not sure how i would use the binomial distribution for things that aren't poly nomials

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For example

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I know how to prove if it is possible to find an x,y or z for a given n. but idk how to actually FIND those x y and z's

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hmmCat what should i do?

misty aurora
#

I think bro went to sleep

neat lintel
misty aurora
neat lintel
#

I'm just speaking into the void hoping allahu hears my words

misty aurora
#

isn't he helping?

neat lintel
#

idk

misty aurora
#

nice mutual servers tho

neat lintel
#

trueSCtoofat

misty aurora
heavy mist
#

anyone knows calculus

neat lintel
heavy mist
neat lintel
heavy mist
#

i am new here

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i am human being

heavy mist
#

hi

neat lintel
#

nice to meet you human being

#

i'm F_button

#

Many people know calculus

neat lintel
#

Integral calculus? Max two weeks.

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Multivariable calculus? outside my pay grade

zealous garden
#

Max three weeks if you do it right

heavy mist
zealous garden
#

A lot of people get tripped up on the whole >1D thing

heavy mist
zealous garden
#

I teach Geometric Algebra 2 and Introduction to Geometric Calculus at Wraithlord U

heavy mist
#

i know a bit about psychology i can teach that to you

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can you teach me maths

zealous garden
#

You haven't even shown me a theorem yet

heavy mist
#

which theorem

zealous garden
#

Nor have I, you

heavy mist
zealous garden
#

Yes we can be friends

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I was just saying, we haven't even shown eachother theorems

#

All my friends show me theorems

heavy mist
#

of calculus?

zealous garden
#

Sometimes

heavy mist
#

i sucks at math

#

just want to be better at it

zealous garden
#

Me too

heavy mist
neat lintel
#

It's so over

#

Easiest problem ever!

#

oh wait Despair they're asking for minimum brigthness not shortest path

#

what type of math is this?

zealous garden
#

Geometric Algebra

neat lintel
zealous garden
#

It's a situation where GA might make sense to use

#

Particularly CGA

#

I can use it to find circles and lines from points, intersect circles and lines, and find distances

#

The problem is deceptively difficult

#

I'm still thinking through a solution

#

I'm being stubborn and won't write anything down

#

Seems simple enough

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No idea if my solution actually works

copper acorn
#

I need help with annuties

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Can someone please help 😭

neat lintel
sonic field
#

coming in clutch

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even tho that was 2 hours ago LOL

woven glade
#

Does anyone know the average grade level of mathematical skill of the average american adult?

neat lintel
woven glade
#

Thank u! Appreciated

neat lintel
split pawn
#

1 to enlightenment

cloud wraith
split pawn
neat lintel
icy locust
neat lintel
#

america truly is pathetic

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and i say this as an american

neat lintel
#

discussy2

icy locust
#

electric boogaloo

neat lintel
#

discussy

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sussy

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Atleast here no one is destroying maths

icy locust
neat lintel
icy locust
#

bruh

neat lintel
#

anyway

#

i was thinking of studying linear algebr

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what are the prereqs and where should i start

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depends

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do you want to study it in an applied setting or a pure setting

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pure

#

how about a balance between pure and applied but more inclined towards pure

icy locust
#

axler

tame egret
#

good afternoon

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hru

neat lintel
tame egret
icy locust
neat lintel
#

for applied you dont need fields and you may or may not need sets depending on how applied it is

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for applied just be good at algebra

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and arithmetic

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(theres a lot of it)

icy locust
#

F_1 incident

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Actually a fun challenge to try to apply theorems to vector space over F_1 and derive a contradiction that signifies such space does not exist

#

probably too trivial tho

neat lintel
#

o interesting

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do share im curious

icy locust
#

basically find anything that doesn't hold for modules that are not vector spaces

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:D

neat lintel
#

a fair lol

burnt ledge
icy locust
#

yes?

neat lintel
#

do modules not have basis vectors?

burnt ledge
#

Easy i found it

icy locust
neat lintel
#

idk i dont know much about modules

burnt ledge
neat lintel
#

i just nkow theyre vector spaces but with rings instead of fields

neat lintel
burnt ledge
#

Z/nZ

neat lintel
#

a

icy locust
neat lintel
#

i thought that was Z_n

burnt ledge
#

i just prefr C bc cyclic

icy locust
#

notations

neat lintel
#

a fair

burnt ledge
#

how are they a vector space

ocean harbor
storm sage
long matrix
#

F1 exists.

tame egret
ocean harbor
tame egret
ocean harbor
#

pat

tame egret
#

😔

ocean harbor
#

did you pass?

tame egret
ocean harbor
#

I see

tame egret
#

so far

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its been good

#

although

split pawn
ocean harbor
#

👀

split pawn
#

👁‍🗨

ocean harbor
#

👁️

#

cs class started ugh ttyl

split pawn
#

Nooo

#

💻science

neat lintel
#
#

It's joever

#

How do these companies expect e_mad

burnt ledge
storm sage
burnt ledge
storm sage
#

(In all seriousness, the motivation for this is that a dim k vector space over F_q has cardinality 1+q+q^2+...+q^(k-1), so setting q = 1 gives a set of cardinality k.)

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(So finite-dimensional vector spaces over F_1 should be finite sets, with a special distinguished element for zero.)

burnt ledge
#

besides F1 should have characteristic one, so adding any element one time should give zero

storm sage
#

Whether this really works or not, I have no idea

storm sage
#

And non-enlightening

burnt ledge
#

so, what, does it have char zero?

storm sage
#

I mean we do say it has characteristic one, but we ignore the ways that this doesn't work

burnt ledge
#

consider the set A={0,a,b} as an F1 vecspace, and fix an isomorphism f: A->(F1)³. what is f^-1(f(a)+f(a))?

#

Yor bunk has been evaporated

storm sage
#

Algebraists destroyed

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(The actual answer is I have no idea)

mint canopy
#

We don't care so much about 'vector spaces' over F_un so much as other objects

#

For example algebraic groups

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GL(n, F_q) looks like S_n plus some extra stuff (trust me bro). And so the hypothetical GL(n, F_un) is just S_n

#

The point here being that somehow we care about this S_n structure

#

We can analyse this without F_un so frankly this is where my understanding ends. The general point is that we don't actually consider it as having vector spaces, and perhaps more directly nobody thinks there is such a field

mint canopy
vivid halo
#

F_1 is a ghost

mint canopy
#

Spooky! How apt for today and indeed october in general

vivid halo
#

tfw you can prove RH if you can prove enough things about F_1

burnt ledge
#

Ohhhh okay so its mostly stuff I don't even know how to care about

vivid halo
#

F_1 is hard to care about when nobody even knows what the right definition should be

burnt ledge
#

Yeag i always hear the vector space thing which has never made sense to me and never a definition bc its always prefaced with "this cant exist but"

vivid halo
#

yeah there are things like this that don't literally exist as definitions/theorems but are too robust as analogies to ignore

#

the knots and primes analogy is another good example of this

burnt ledge
#

whats that

vivid halo
#

primes behave like knots in a certain "3-manifold"

#

the "3-manifold" here being Spec(Z) which has cohomological dimension 3 by certain arithmetic duality theorems of Artin and Tate and others

#

it's not literally a 3-manifold in any reasonable sense

#

but for example the quadratic residue symbols of primes behave like a linking number for these "knots"

jagged forge
pulsar pagoda
tame egret
neat lintel
#

FBI?!?!

manic skiff
deft iron
#

I am working on a group assingment where I have shared a google doc with my group mates. Nobody is writing in the google doc. I am almost done with my part but I don't feel like pasting it in the shared doc cus then they might expect me to do the entire thing

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One has said he is almost done to (I do believe him tbh), but should I put in my part?

neat lintel
#

I had a group assignment in my first semester of college and something similar happened.
I just reported them to the teacher while we were working on the project and after it was done

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I got a 100% idk about them

neat lintel
#

That's what i used to report them

glad laurel
#

Hi, is anyone here capable of helping me with finance homework?

quasi jettyBOT
glad laurel
#

Thanks btw

icy locust
#

!noadvert

quasi jettyBOT
#

Please do not advertise your help channel or thread in other parts of the server. There are many people who need help, and no one person can be prioritized over other people, so please patiently wait. Anyone who chooses to help you is a volunteer who is doing so out of their own kindness.

split pawn
mint patio
#

This is like

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The thing I hate more than anything else in engineering

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ANd it sucks because it's so common

#

It's just ugly to my math brain

#

All the fucking CORRECTION FACTORS and "eMpIrIcAl ReLaTiOnS"

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AGH WHAT IS THIS?!?!?!?

gaunt cape
#

What the acual heck is that

mint patio
#

The equation to find the Nusselt number for a bank of tubes with < 20 rows

gaunt cape
#

What

#

I thought it was the compound interest formula 😭

mint patio
#

HUHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

#

You mean Pe^(rt)? 😭

gaunt cape
#

Yeah

mint patio
#

The P and r here are one thing

#

Pr stands for Prandtl

gaunt cape
mint patio
#

Not principal and rate

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😆

gaunt cape
#

pacmn

#

Wait so is that algebra 2

last creek
mint patio
#

Yeah lol

last creek
#

These relationships are really just condensed ways summarizing a whole bunch of data

mint patio
#

I remember we did something similar for my mechanical design class

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100000 different failure theories and coefficients to learn

#

Temperature coefficients, surface treatment coefficients, fuck my ass man that was a pain

last creek
#

Dimensionless number are really nice though

#

Scaling is a giant pain without them.

mint patio
#

Yeah

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I never thought of it that way tbh

#

This is legit the first time I've ever realized why they're useful

#

I thought it was just because they're just nice parameters to describe a state

last creek
#

I have been searching for a few for bacteriophage kinetics for two years, because we try to go from 1ml experiments to 1000L batches and it's complicated

#

But biology is biology 😦

mint patio
#

You do bio?

last creek
#

Biotech

#

Chemical Engineering

mint patio
#

Why doesn’t Buckingham Pi apply?

#

Ah I’m mechE

last creek
#

It does apply but it doesn't really help

#

The main problem is measurement

#

It's a predator prey system, but the replication depends in a nonlinear way on the metabolism of the bacteria

mint patio
last creek
#

So a small change in growth rate of the host can have a huge impact on the burst size and latent period

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And I can't really make the metabolism of the bacteria identical at the small scale because of equipment limitations

#

I'm sure there's a good dimensionless group, but I haven't found it.

mint patio
#

Wow

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Sorry I have nothing else to say, I jus thope I can be in your position one day

#

I’d love to do research and know what I’m talking about and do experiments and make models and struggle with the unknown and form my own theories and make my own discoveries

last creek
#

It's really not as cool as it sounds. I also spend days just being a glorified plumber

mint patio
#

LMFAO

#

What do you mean

last creek
#

I literally attach and detach piping between process equipment

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Clean tanks, prepare reagents. Test seals

#

There's a lot of grunt work

mint patio
#

Oh are you a TA or lab assistant?

jagged forge
last creek
#

There's just a lot of grunt, some of which I have to do

#

Partially it might be because I am in a pretty small company. There's a lot of intermittent tasks

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"Oh Xenophon, we got a request for 100g of such and such from X. Can you make some?"

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"oh, the halal inspector is coming. Can you make sure there's no cardboard in the fridge?"

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True story

mint patio
#

That’s cool as fuck

jagged forge
last creek
#

I used to work with ketamine, yes. Making tablets, etc. The stuff I work with now has a variety of regulatory stories

last creek
#

But QA is not my end of the pool

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I just know that if I drop a ham sandwich in the equipment, it will never be halal again

burnt ledge
#

Ohhh damn its nice to know halal inspectors actually care about things like that that i didnt even realise would make a difference

neat lintel
static loom
#

Suppose lol

neat lintel
#

2+++2=5 makes sense i mean

#

2+ ++2

long matrix
icy locust
neat lintel
#

nerd

icy locust
#

also the original joke was unfunny

neat lintel
#

🤓

frank orchid
#

In math papers do people use clear unambgious language?
Or do they use unclear words idioms etc?

static loom
#

the latter

icy locust
#

some notations can be obscure and not very familiar to people outside the niche area

frank orchid
frank orchid
#

What is the point if a notation if not used?

icy locust
frank orchid
#

Great so why be imprecise?

icy locust
#

are we talking about acceptable levels of handwaving

frank orchid
#

Handwaving?

icy locust
#

The point is to communicate. You could start from ZF and state everything and end up with 10,000 pages for a single thesis

frank orchid
icy locust
#

Eh, have you actually read one?

#

"Unclear" as in not 100% unambiguous

#

but you can still infer the clear meaning

burnt ledge
# frank orchid Wait…doesn’t that make it harder to read?

U have to bear in mind that math papers are not made for babies ti read. their job is not to be painstakingly unambiguous, but to be understood by the people they want to be understood by. Often that can mean taking notation for granted, abusing notations in certain ways, and resolving ambiguity through convention

frank orchid
#

Males sense that’s good that’s precise.

burnt ledge
#

using notation in ways that arent strictly the same way its defined, but in a way thats suggestive

frank orchid
#

Wdym suggestive?

burnt ledge
#

Do u just not know what that word means

#

if not, try to think about what the structure of the word "suggestive" ... suggests

narrow mantle
#

My school filter blocks math stackexchange

long matrix
#

error fuzzing

#

just error fuzz chatgpt sotrue

#

its always right

teal lion
long matrix
#

to the right audience they might be.

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rather, their intended audience.

#

and that's a good math paper.

long matrix
tame egret
split pawn
tame egret
tame egret
split pawn
quiet slate
#

hi guys im back :D

split pawn
#

Hi back :D

vocal vessel
#

<@&268886789983436800> here too

split pawn
#

Wait he was here too

tame egret
split pawn
quiet slate
#

...

tame egret
#

bye...

quiet slate
#

nah man...

split pawn
#

Are you

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Going

quiet slate
#

he going to ur home

willow moon
#

Can someone explain to me how math reading groups usually work? Do we read on the material during meetup or before the meetup? What do you do during the meetup and before the meetup? When do you assign problems and how do you evaluate comprehension of the topic for members of the group?

#

Thinking of starting a Spivak reading group with my friends but not really sure how to organize to make it impactful.

surreal sapphire
#

generally reading is something that people can do on their own time

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meetups discuss what was read

#

you can do something like:
people read chapter, meetup to talk about issues and assign this chapters exercises to people (though everyone should at least look at them)
then the week after that, solutions are presented and discussed

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continue this until done

willow moon
#

How do you test the overall comprehension?

#

Like do you take pdfs of past exams and set a date for everyone to take the test?

split pawn
#

Hes not allowed here

quiet slate
#

hes gona steal ur lungs

split pawn
#

Why would he do that?

surreal sapphire
willow moon
#

Well idk i just thought that it could be something to work toward? Like aren't people usually motivated to study more in depth to prepare for an assessment

#

Or do reading groups not have this usually?

surreal sapphire
#

then the assessment tests understanding opencry

#

reading groups require participiants to put in lots of work of their own volition

#

they can test their own understanding

river moon
#

aren't people usually motivated to study more in depth to prepare for an assessment
nosadcat

surreal sapphire
#

oh, i misunderstood that question actually cri_bruh

#

you can do assessments in the traditional sense with exams, but its probably unnecessary

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one can tell from just doing the exercises

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like, people will know themselves and nobody wants to write exams, they are basically only a necessary evil to produce grades

willow moon
#

ah i see

#

thanks for your insight!

storm sage
#

Each person will probably have a different goal for how in-depth they want to understand the material, so you should probably clarify this together

#

Also I would personally suggest that if it's a group of people you don't know too well, you have some meetings just for fun and not for the reading group per se

#

Up to you though

neat lintel
#

I think it was e

willow moon
#

also one question, is it the norm to make documents with this much space? Does that mean it is not for printing purposes or something? I'm not finding them easy on the eyes and apparently a lot of math documents are written like this. Is there any purpose to it?

#

Ok apparently I can't send images for some reason here

surreal sapphire
neat lintel
#

In pronuce

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Or ie

surreal sapphire
#

i dont speak turkish

storm sage
#

smh average german xenophobe /s

neat lintel
storm sage
#

how about you just look up how to pronounce ä....

river moon
#

learn how to pronounce ı

neat lintel
#

im German i started learning turkish at 6 but im not fluent and my turkish sucks

#

I know how to pronounce ı tho

#

I can pronounce everything and grammar top too but lack of speaking creates people with skills like me

#

I can learn entire languages like English on my own but

#

Im too lazy when it comes to turkish rn lol

#

School comes first

#

(screw school)

#

Do you ever feel like other people learn faster than you. Like in school i feeel controlled by the constant need toraise my arm but i dont bc of anxiety but then my grade suffers and at home im scared to spend more time studying mathematics on my own because of all the other upcoming Exams in other subjects 😭

#

On top of thatI had to repeat 2 grades not because im stupid but because i just didnt do anything for school in those two years 3rd grade and 8th

#

Big bruh moment

#

So i feel kinda behind

#

How would you use combinatorics to solve this?

loud snow
#

Firstly exclude any numbers bigger than r from the set because they will be too big

#

Also depending on the types of sets you are working with it could make sense to cut it down further