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split pawn
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Isnt SCP 096 the one that can catch you if you see it ona TV screen

echo tundra
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Sounds like info hazard with extra steps

deep mango
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But all the stories about them are fun

split pawn
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Thats like

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Class Keter or what

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Idr now

deep mango
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Yes, info hazard is the basis for it. Memes and antimemes are both infohazards

split pawn
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Nah its Euclid only

echo tundra
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Interesting

deep mango
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My other favorite is the one about the forest which cannot be given a permanent name

split pawn
deep mango
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Which was actually the first one i read

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Its so good

jagged forge
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what was this one’s name

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was Larry the old man or was Larry 096

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ah no that’s 106

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radical larry

echo tundra
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Larry is such a funny name

deep mango
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Just so well written

split pawn
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What the lol

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am I looking at

neat lintel
vague moat
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SCP jelly thingy

quiet slate
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today i thoght

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if there was another univers where is it now?

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and whe cant see all of our univers

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so waht if after the part whe can see is just more un our univers and after that a big black void and after that the old univers

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and so it could go on

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and infinet circle of universes

raven plaza
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What if there really was a fourth spatial dimension

raven plaza
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But everything we can observe is stuck in 3 dimensions

quiet slate
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but if there was maby there is also a 5 a 6 and so on and on

raven plaza
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And stuck in 2 dimensions

quiet slate
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well also 2d thinks can look 3d

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so maby there is just 1d and 2d

raven plaza
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What if there are many beings staring at us silently

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Observing our every move

quiet slate
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you mean "whe are all in a simulation"?

raven plaza
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But they are in the 4th dimension

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And we can never stare back

quiet slate
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do you know the experiment of 2d billy and 3d sientist?

raven plaza
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Flatland?

quiet slate
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yes

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if whe pass a ball tro the 2d land for billy its just a point that starts little then big and gehts little again

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and then disapears

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so he cant see the ball just a shadow

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and that would confirm your "alian simulation" theory

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cus if they are in 4d whe could see them

zealous garden
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If we were truly in 4D we should see more parity inverting transformations

quiet slate
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no whe are in 3d (1d + 2d) but if there is somfing out there that is in 4d (1d + 2d + 3d) whe couldnt see them

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cus whe cant see wahts beond the point of 3d

zealous garden
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In 4D, 3D reflections are just rotations utilizing the additional dimension

quiet slate
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is 4d not just also in and out

split pawn
quiet slate
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...

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dont think so

quiet slate
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but for us a 2d world is flat wich in a point the 3d world is 3d but waht could the 4d dimension be

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and how would our world look like in 4d?

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is it also just flat?

marsh pelican
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Opinions on where the complex numbers really lie on a graph.

forest vale
ocean harbor
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@tame egret afternoon

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me going to stu(dying) harder during these long weekend

quiet slate
feral hearth
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heyy, quick question:
I was taking a look o cases in which newtons method (calculus) fail, and I was told that in order for the precision to be good, the "second derivative should not be too big". Why is that?

jovial tartan
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Is anyone here a pro in maths but in French?

vocal vessel
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un pro en mathématiques

solar hawk
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,iamstudying

fathom swallowBOT
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Gave you the studying! selfrole.

mental stratus
split pawn
leaden torrent
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if the derivative at the point of consideration is 0 (i.e. if youre looking for a local extremum) and the second derivative exists, then the convergence is linear with error determined by the second derivative

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so it will converge slower in such a situation if the second derivative is large

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but it'll still converge eventually

delicate wolf
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Does anyone know any good resources about practical numerical differentiation with regularization? Most papers out there describe the theory of different methods but they don't provide any algorithms. Something like "you have n samples of a noisy function, here's how to estimate the derivative at each point" would be nice.

river moon
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any numerical analysis book

delicate wolf
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I've checked a few but couldn't find something solid. Any suggestions?

zealous garden
jagged forge
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reminds me of how the permutation groups are generated by transposition

zealous garden
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The fun series of examples (if I remember correctly) is

$C \ell_{p,0}(\bb R)^+ \cong C \ell_{0,p}(\bb R)^+ \cong C \ell_{0,p-1}$

fathom swallowBOT
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wraithlord_kograduate

zealous garden
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Which starts with Cl_1 having an even subalgebra of R, Cl_2 having an even subalgebra of the complex numbers (Cl_0,1), and Cl_3 having an even subalgebra of the quaternions (Cl_0,2)

zealous garden
quiet slate
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whe talked about 4d

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and i just toght

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waht if 4d is another kind of world ore univer and whe are inside of that univer

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ore whe take an example on the multivers theory

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where whe could say there is a univers in the multivers that is all just in 4d

jagged forge
zealous garden
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Gotcha

quiet slate
jagged forge
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uhhh sure, that works lol

quiet slate
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...

jagged forge
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think a bit more abstractly

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do you know what permutations are?

quiet slate
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no

jagged forge
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it’s like a shuffle

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shuffling a deck is a permutation on 52 cards

quiet slate
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okey

jagged forge
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and any permutation can be recreated with a series of swaps

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(transpositions)

quiet slate
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hmm okey so basikly ur puting stuf from point a to point b?

jagged forge
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yeah, sort of, but you can’t put multiple things into the same spot

quiet slate
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well yes

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but thats also interesting

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when i could teleport a human and i teleport him intro a wall

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waht would happen?

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ore whe use any other objekt

jagged forge
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well if you did it with a permutation, the particles of the wall would be exchanged

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so you would have wall where the human used to be

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and human where the wall used to be KEK

quiet slate
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nice

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but waht would be other way to transport stuf besides that?

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i mean whe could try to destory a objekt intro evry singel atom and transport the atoms to another point

jagged forge
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yeah this is math not physics

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nor engineering

quiet slate
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but i like bothe

jagged forge
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well ask a physicist

quiet slate
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nah i just like making questions

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qithout questons there are no answers

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so mathe canot be without a question

sonic field
jagged forge
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ludi wants to know practical methods of teleportation

sonic field
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practical? as in why we would want to do it? or like workin methods?

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sorry that's practical reasons

sonic field
quiet slate
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i dont try i just question it

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i also question dividing by 0

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cus sombody has to

sonic field
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well

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we can't teleport rn so

jagged forge
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if ludi doesn’t ask these questions who will sad_think

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he is shouldering the weight of humanity’s future

sonic field
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do you want to teleport?

quiet slate
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would be nice

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sad whe cant

sonic field
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but would it tho?

quiet slate
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so yet whe cant

quiet slate
sonic field
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you sure it would really be nice to?

quiet slate
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sure

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i mean i dont need to pay for travel anymore

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i just say where i wahnt to go and i geht there

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whe could save trilions on traveling

sonic field
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What about

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everything that's "there" already?

quiet slate
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you mean that it will be swapt with me?

sonic field
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well see that's the thing

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would it actually be "swapped"?

quiet slate
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well waht about teleporting a human intro a wall?

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would he replace the wall?

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ore would the wall replace him?

sonic field
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would he?

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you're the one who wants this to happen haha

quiet slate
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sure i am

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so i dont geht waht ur trying to say...

sonic field
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well you question teleportation

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so let's talk about it

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let's say that if we teleport a man into a wall

quiet slate
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yes

sonic field
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that "wall" switches with the man

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is it just that part of the wall or the whole wall itself?

quiet slate
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ore would the wall and man become one?

sonic field
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that's a good question

quiet slate
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but if whe do manage it now evryone would geht a teleport device

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thats like handing out bombs

sonic field
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hmm

quiet slate
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waht whe could do is replace ariports with trave teleportation stations

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so nothing could go wrong

jagged forge
sonic field
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so there might be issues with the idea of teleportation as you've described it.

quiet slate
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it could give us a new type of canzer

sonic field
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I think it's pretty obvious that if we want a man and a wall to switch, that's gonna cause problems. But for your description of just the portion of the wall switching with the man, a physicist might tell you that they NEED this to happen, and that they DON'T need the man and the wall to become one. Can you see why?

quiet slate
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yes i sure can see why

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the main question is "waht if"

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i mean if you could you wouldnt teleport intro a wall

sonic field
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but we ask what if to see what happens.

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if anything does happen

quiet slate
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yes whe dont quit know

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if the think of it as teleporting not swaping the man and wall becoming one would be wery much likly

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cus i dont know waht schould be there to remove the wall

sonic field
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well there's lots of thoughts on these types of things. A physicist might also tell you that switching a man with a portion of the wall would be impossible, even if we could make the switch.

quiet slate
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that sounds about right

sonic field
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but why?

quiet slate
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but wy just a physicist man?

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cus i dont question to answer i question to question

sonic field
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well it wouldn't necessarily have to be a physicist, it could be some other gentleperson with the same knowledge base

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questioning to question is fine. but your question has an answer, it's time for another question, why not reveal the answer ya?

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here's a thought... what happens to your bloodstream if an oxygen bubble appears in it?

quiet slate
sonic field
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just a friendly discussion happening 👀

sonic field
quiet slate
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well how big is the bubble?

split pawn
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I hope you don't mean an embolism...

sonic field
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I do

quiet slate
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i mean if whe say the buble if a big as a blood cell then i would say theres no bigi

split pawn
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Oh no

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Get it OUT

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How did it go in in the first place

sonic field
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Yes.

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Why did I ask that?

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in regards to teleportation

quiet slate
quiet slate
sonic field
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nah it's just a question

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but it somethin to think about

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ya?

quiet slate
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it is

split pawn
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Okay idk the context I jus jumped in

sonic field
quiet slate
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you can make questions about evrythink even if you know the answer

sonic field
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someone said teleportation and I got excited

quiet slate
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it's just good to do

quiet slate
sonic field
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a friend of mine and I go back and forth like this all the time, he's got his phd in physics. it's a fun time

split pawn
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Teleportation... pandaHmm what about it

quiet slate
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well whe took the question waht happens if whe teleport a man intro a wall

split pawn
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Wait what

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I need to

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Uhm one min

sonic field
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LOL

quiet slate
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...

split pawn
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Oh ok now I understand

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Intro the wall

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We totally not shooting a video

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I mean well. Unless you can somehow manage metabolism you can't really keep life intact in teleportation like that

sonic field
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Here's a cool idea. Let's say we could teleport this way: Take an object, shrink it to a point mass, then move it through time to our spot in choice and enlargen it. If we could put a protective bubble around that individual, that would eliminate the chance of any "air bubbles" simulatenously appearing in our bodies as a result of teleportation

split pawn
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^^ metabolism is a huge problem

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That means. Life is a problem

sonic field
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that comes with problems too tho

split pawn
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The cell has to function

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It can't be a point mass

sonic field
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nah my cells just sit there eating chili cheese fries

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and laughing at me

quiet slate
split pawn
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But yeah speak of teleportation of gold from the rich coffers oh yeah I'm all about turning it into black holes and point masses

sonic field
quiet slate
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i dont think working with point masses is the right way to go

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i mean whe are talking abou swaping atoms not transporting them

split pawn
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Well for that you need to assume all your atoms tunnel through and nothing remains which obv isn't tru at all

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Just board a bus. That's how you teleport in real life

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Stop living in the Argand plane

sonic field
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I think quantum tunneling is a thing now:

split pawn
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It is obv

quiet slate
sonic field
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well idk abouy it being obvious...

split pawn
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That is a lame idea ig

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I'm sorry to say that Ludi

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You just need to copy DNA of one cell

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Not all atoms

quiet slate
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np it'S all just questions whe dont have the answers to yet

split pawn
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Cells*

sonic field
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we'd somehow have to preserve our psyche

split pawn
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DNa in all cells is the same

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Biology and physics oh yeah that's my taste.

quiet slate
split pawn
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Also then again. Without prerequisites having DNA is useless

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Like you need a whole functioning machinery and differentiated cells to do the job

quiet slate
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but also waht would happen to our dna wile teleporting

split pawn
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Or atleast stem cells

quiet slate
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i mean whe could mutate

split pawn
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And then again. You'll have lost your memory and you'll be reborn

quiet slate
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yee thats also right

sonic field
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that's what I wonder about. imagine having to put a brain back together

split pawn
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I mean we trying to teleport atoms and you're teleporting a whole complex molecule

quiet slate
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damm this think is tricky

split pawn
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It's not gonna even remain

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DNA is enough big

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It stretches long enough

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I think six times to the earth and moon... wait I gotta check it

quiet slate
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maby

split pawn
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From the earth to the moon*

quiet slate
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also waht would happen to your brain if you teleport you hole body

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but besides that i would say that it makes more senze to teleport the hole body then to teleport just a part of it and rebuild the rest with new atoms on the oter side

split pawn
quiet slate
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damm

sonic field
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that's a lot

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lol

quiet slate
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and whe just need i to copy the body

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but whe are our brain and not our body

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so whe dont know what quick could happen to our brain

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and what if people with problems like aids ore cancer teleport?

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will it just geht worse?

sonic field
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or better

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well i'ma go hang out in math discussy, i gotta grade

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yall have fun 😄

split pawn
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Well I mean the teleportation discussy seems fun but again there's no point in teleporting half the human body

quiet slate
split pawn
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And since you can't teleport the whole...( idk ask area 51 )...

quiet slate
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wait what if whe dont use that to teleport but besides creat a wormhole to the place whe wahnt to go?

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that would be much more easy

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when whe could know how to make wormholes that is...

latent edge
scarlet fjord
burnt ledge
# latent edge "feets", "miles" Not even gonna read

Each human cell has around 2 metres of DNA. Let's say each human has around 10 trillion cells (this is actually a low ball estimate). This would mean that each person has around 18 trillion metres or around 18 trillion kilometres of DNA inside of them. The Earth is about 150 million kilometres away from the sun.

paper bridge
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why is arithmetic this bad ?

burnt ledge
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how bad?

velvet dagger
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Unfortunately to quantify that you need arithmetic

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Truly a catch-22

burnt ledge
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He dosnt have to numerically quantify it though

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He could say something like "more bad than X"

neat lintel
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Buy the dip trolldespair

mossy phoenix
neat lintel
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It seems like they just want you to shove things into your head without knowing why

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how to solve this problem:
"Just use this formula" clueful

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the trunk of an elephant?

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oh

loud snow
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the proper comparison is something about basketballs

neat lintel
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Hi chat

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I present to you

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$\int \frac{\sqrt{\sin(x)}}{\sqrt{\sin(x)} + \sqrt{\cos(x)}} dx$

fathom swallowBOT
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help me

wet mortar
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integrate? how bout you integrate yourself into society

neat lintel
loud snow
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looks sorta like 1/1+x

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actually nvm

neat lintel
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Help me guys

wet mortar
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no way josé

ocean harbor
quasi jettyBOT
split pawn
loud snow
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@solar hawk would you have kids?

solar hawk
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Yea

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I wanna have kids and die quickly

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I don’t want to end my bloodline

loud snow
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you can make a decent income child selling

solar hawk
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Wdym Income child

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You get paid for having kids?

loud snow
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yea

split pawn
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What on earth is that

loud snow
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but tbh probably bad rates unless your kids are max market value

solar hawk
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Lmao

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Bro what

loud snow
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minmaxing your baby's build you get 7500 after ~9months

solar hawk
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Mans actually gone clinically insane

loud snow
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thats 27 USD per day amukh

split pawn
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I'm not reading that

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I'm gonna read the mathematical model of glucose tolerance curve instead

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That bettrr

loud snow
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probably

split pawn
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Or try to model the hormone curve with a piecewise

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Oh shoot. I hear the army.

solar hawk
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What glucose what army

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Hi

tender cobalt
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@solar hawk so i was told that the role was only for people who have been active/very active

solar hawk
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Ye

tender cobalt
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and that the vc was for the minecraft server

solar hawk
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Ye

tender cobalt
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i wanna use the vc for math related stuff

solar hawk
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Nobody uses it for that tho

tender cobalt
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so i did not get the role

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well that sucks

solar hawk
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We just talk about math or desmos and stuff

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Ok just wait for it then

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Yoy willl prolly get it soon anyway

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Prolly by the time it comes

tender cobalt
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what is the requirement for active?

solar hawk
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The bot will assign it

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Automatically

tender cobalt
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what bot?

solar hawk
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If you talk in math channels it happens faster

solar hawk
split pawn
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Or boost the server

tender cobalt
tender cobalt
split pawn
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But if you lose the boost you lose access

tender cobalt
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oh

solar hawk
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Yea

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That’s what happened to me

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So they gave me infinity

split pawn
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Whys there army everywhere

tender cobalt
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ohhh

solar hawk
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So I have access for infinity

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And I don’t gotta pay

tender cobalt
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neato

solar hawk
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Is there a war

split pawn
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Pretty untypical for Sunday

tender cobalt
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well i wanna boost the server but dont got nitro soo :< (ill probably be able to relatively soon)

split pawn
solar hawk
split pawn
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انا ليس بفلسطيني

tender cobalt
split pawn
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Insert yourself in bio and phys convos

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I do that or analysis and combi

tender cobalt
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and im even less knowledgable in phys than math

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cuz im tryna learn math and chem first lol

split pawn
tender cobalt
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fair

split pawn
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I feel so scared looking at the army

tender cobalt
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i love math discussion (my little pookie wookie)

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what

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whats the army

split pawn
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Or at the police for that matter

tender cobalt
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oh

split pawn
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I could just be on the disappeared person lists next day for that matter

tender cobalt
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im gonna learn german when i start college

split pawn
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Well. I'm not an Arab native

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So I learnt Arabic a little..

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For like... the Quran

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And for talking a bit in Quranic Arabic

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It's very plain and considered without a dialect

tender cobalt
split pawn
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I think it's called فصحي

tender cobalt
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i wanted to study islam but i need to study christianity and judaism first since islam bounces off of it a bit

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i at least need to read the torah before studying islam

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oh and the gospels

split pawn
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I see

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I've studied little comparative religion in my free time

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Especially Hinduism and a bit of Christianity

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Imma log off anyway

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Bye

tender cobalt
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oop okay

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bye byee

split pawn
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Not a good time to talk

solar hawk
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Bye Muhammad

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Gn

split pawn
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It's not night

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It's a bad morning

neat lintel
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so similar to binomial coefficient

jagged forge
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indeed, there are k! permutations for each combination

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so divide permutations by k! and you get the number of combinations (which is the binomial coefficient)

split pawn
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I mean nCr is literally nPr/r!

neat lintel
jagged forge
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nCr (“n choose r”) is another way to write the binomial coefficient

neat lintel
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I am on this chapter of book I start read now

split pawn
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LIBRETEXTS hype

exotic zealot
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help guys whats 1-1 i need it for my homework

peak tide
exotic zealot
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ok

neat lintel
exotic zealot
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ty

neat lintel
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$$1 \cap 1$$

fathom swallowBOT
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help me

jagged forge
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wut

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$1\cap 1=1$

fathom swallowBOT
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suremark

neat lintel
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I meant

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That thing

jagged forge
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what thing

neat lintel
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I forgor

tender cobalt
jagged forge
tender cobalt
jagged forge
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uhhh what

tender cobalt
jagged forge
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no i don’t know what you mean

tender cobalt
jagged forge
tender cobalt
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sully 🗣️

neat lintel
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bro really just be yapping

neat lintel
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Should I skip this chapter?

split pawn
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Which book is it]

neat lintel
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I just pressed the download pdf button

split pawn
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Ik half of the book ig

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no nvm

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OH WAIT WUT\

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I thought u needed to pay

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Yayy

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I can study celestial mech now ty so much Brandon

neat lintel
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Somehow For some reason this book is supposed to be completed in a year ( two semesters )

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I'm sure someone can do it two weeks

jagged forge
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oh I didn’t scroll down

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formal logic is a pretty useful thing to learn imo and not hard

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and definitely for a discrete math course

narrow mesa
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Is it possible to master from pre algebra to statistics and probability in 1 year? I have entrance exams in one year 😭

open aspen
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Yeah, if you're dedicated enough

split pawn
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Okay get alibe

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You're the new discussion

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That discussion is locked down

neat lintel
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sorry if this isn't the appropriate channel to ask, just let me know! I would really appreciate some help.

I'm trying to do grad applications but I'm getting really hung up on the requirement for recommendation letters, especially from math faculty.

  • background: my ugrad has been rocky (abuse from some people, had to take a break) and in my fixative autism, take on way more than is reasonable. Now I'm an average B student in mathematics but higher in my other subjects I guess because how much more effort math takes me. I haven't really talked much to the instructors I've had for classes since a lot of them were late grad students or postdocs in other subfields (they're also not at my university anymore) but the professors that I've talked to, about my and their research interests, I wasn't able to complete the classes of because of my break, and on top of that it's been a couple years since talking.
  • is it appropriate for me to ask the professors that I've talked to about research for recommendation letters? I'm absolutely terrified of asking because inconveniencing others makes me feel horrible about myself and I'm pretty sure that they'd say no or not even remember me.
  • is there really any hope for me to go on in pure mathematics? it's been my passion since my preteens so I'm a bit heartbroken with the situation I've gotten myself in.
  • I've also been trying to go through some of the university's faculty's research (though it's definitely difficult). Would it make more sense for me to wait on my applications (so take another gap in my academic history) and talk to some of the professors to see if they'd be willing to work with me on a project?

sorry again for being a downer and for all the text. I'm just feeling really down and lost, and hoping that someone can help me get on a good path. I've talked to my advisors but they're not very helpful. I get the feeling that they think that I'm not good enough because of my university's prestige.
thank you. : )

split pawn
bitter niche
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deep mango
# neat lintel sorry if this isn't the appropriate channel to ask, just let me know! I would re...

Best place for this is the #graduate-applications channel (graduate applications, you probably don't have access to that until you get the undergraduate role from #info )
I guess I can give some input. Math grad schools don't really care about "gaps" in your educational history as much as long as you use that time doing something (working, learning, doing research). Lots of students in math grad school are on nontraditional routes. There's no such thing as "behind".
What I will say is that realistically they will care about consistent B's in math classes and recommenders who don't know you very well. In-major GPA and recommenders are the parts they usually consider most. A math phd is really greuling, not much fun, and adversely affects a pretty large proportion of grad students' mental wellness. So this does sound like a situation where taking some time to both strengthen your application (to stand out against the pretty good but not stellar in-major GPA) and to build direction and self-assuredness could be helpful. Meanwhile, it's good to remember that in the US a lot of math phd programs start with 2 years of taking courses (like a masters) which can be a nice transitional time. So the rough stuff isn't all that imminent

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idk if you can validate formal proofs just by shallow understanding of the latter

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you'd also need the foundations

solar hawk
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What’s formal logic vs regular logic

hybrid thunder
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does anyone know any websites that have information (relatively in depth) on different topics like trig and combs

vocal vessel
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Yes

storm sage
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just like the number "2" is an abstraction from pairs of stuff like "two apples" and "two pears", "formal logic" is an abstraction of everyday logic to turn it into something that can be studied and reasoned about

jagged forge
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eg you can translate a statement like “x is in the intersection of the family U_i” into “for all i, x is in U_i” and other sorts of things

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it’s sort of like unpacking the terminology and seeing what it means at a more basic level, which can get rid of confusion for beginners

neat lintel
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CVB/

tender cobalt
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@acoustic yarrow to answer your question no, the only ap's offered at my school are exclusive to 10th graders, and im an 11th grader and i have not taken those ap classes

acoustic yarrow
tender cobalt
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they have AP us history and AP english

acoustic yarrow
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yeah and u get college credits?

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wb ap calculus

tender cobalt
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those are literally the only two ap classes offered at my school

solar hawk
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You can still the take ap test tho

tender cobalt
solar hawk
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What cis

tender cobalt
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it's basically ap but better i'll explain

solar hawk
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Chs ?

solar hawk
jagged forge
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if you get college credit from it then who cares

solar hawk
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Ig

tender cobalt
# solar hawk How can it be better if nobody has ever heard of it

so the local community college (i plan on spending my first two years there) allows my high school to offer some of their classes for free. so like you can take a college art class for example, and you're literally enrolled in that college's stuff and taking the college class while in high school

solar hawk
tender cobalt
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and it also gives you extra high school credit too

solar hawk
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Like yk how some colleges have those programs

jagged forge
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i have no idea

solar hawk
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Ok

tender cobalt
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CIS (College In School)

solar hawk
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I seee

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It’s like dual enrollment but closer in ties with school?

tender cobalt
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my high school also haves a program that allows you to graduate with an associates and high school diploma

solar hawk
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It’s called CHS for us

tender cobalt
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hopefully im taking cis courses next year

solar hawk
tender cobalt
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my school requires a 3.0 gpa for juniors and 2.5 gpa for seniors and a certain score on the accuplacer tho im not sure what the score requirements for what classes are

sly flint
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Man. I envy you all. I'm here stuck in India. The education system here is just horrendous.

solar hawk
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You can get continuing studies credit like me

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It’s pretty easy

sly flint
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I see, can you elaborate?

solar hawk
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So like

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Yk how colleges have full programs for bachelors degrees and masters degrees and stuff

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And all that

sly flint
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Yeah.

solar hawk
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But you can also take individual courses

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So

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Well idk how it works for

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People who aren’t in HS

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I assume it’s easier

sly flint
solar hawk
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Oh

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Then in that case ignore that

sly flint
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Like the 3rd time we've had this convo.

solar hawk
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Oh

solar hawk
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You could try like

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Some of those accept international

solar hawk
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The highest level they do is abstract algebra tho

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What do you think

solar hawk
sly flint
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That's alright. I haven't done real analysis + complex analysis and just started with abstract algebra so it would be fine.

solar hawk
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You can apply for it soon

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The semester is almost over I think

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It ends in December so applications will open up then

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If you can’t afford it I think they have financial aid idk

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I don’t think I’ll be able to pay for it next semester

sly flint
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Is there any prelim test for registration or...?
Also yeah, was about to ask, how much is it?

solar hawk
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It’s like 30 bucks or smthn to apply

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1500 for a semester

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I think that’s like 2 and a half rupees

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Thousand

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Obviously

sly flint
solar hawk
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Oh

sly flint
solar hawk
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Isn’t that 100k

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I never learned the numbers

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Oh

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That’s corore isn’t. It

sly flint
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Yeah the system here is funky. Around 100K rs.

solar hawk
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Core

solar hawk
sly flint
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LOL.

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I mean yeah the application cost is around 2500Rs. I thought you were talking about the tuition fee lol.

solar hawk
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lol

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Nah I can’t do multiplication that big in my head

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It’s like 80 rs is a dollar right

sly flint
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I think so.

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Haven't checked in months.

solar hawk
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Last time I went to India it was 64

sly flint
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Wait what. Hold on.

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Ah so 2015.

solar hawk
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Yeah

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Sounds about right

sage prawn
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Henlo

solar hawk
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Well I have visited in between but I didn’t check the rate

sly flint
solar hawk
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lol

sly flint
solar hawk
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The rupee is losing faster than the dollar then I guess

sly flint
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Yeah.

solar hawk
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Gotta love calculus

sly flint
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lul

sage prawn
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Venezuela exists

solar hawk
sage prawn
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How are you doing tonight? 👀

sly flint
sage prawn
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RuneScape gold is more stable then Bolivar

solar hawk
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Oh wait btw rage

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Hmm

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To take the exams you will need proctoring

sage prawn
solar hawk
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Idk if you still get credit if your parents/friends do it

solar hawk
sage prawn
sly flint
# sly flint lul

My plan now is to get into IMO, IPhO or IChO, get some sort of recognition from universities, and get out of here.

solar hawk
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Ya

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We get free muffins too

sage prawn
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What year (year? I think it's year?)

solar hawk
sly flint
solar hawk
sage prawn
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Wait hold on how old are you then

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9th grade is what

sly flint
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13-15

solar hawk
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15

sage prawn
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We have a different system in here sorry these 9-15 grade system is weird

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Oh that's cool!

solar hawk
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Ours is to 12

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9-12 is hs

sly flint
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Same here.

sage prawn
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Idk what grades we have here

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Depends on the type of school you choose

neat lintel
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@deep mango thank you! I'll post there as well. : ) makes sense, appreciated! do you have any recommendations for building one's application?
honestly the scariest part of doing a phd is the people for me.

sage prawn
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For example I am gonna finish vocational school before I turn 20

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So starting uni at 20 🙏

sly flint
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Oh.

solar hawk
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What’s vocational school

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Like singing?

sage prawn
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No no

solar hawk
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Vocabulary

sage prawn
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They teach you a trade in the school primarly

solar hawk
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I see

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Trade school

sage prawn
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After you graduate and pads national exams you get a technician title in your field

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Yeah that might be another name

solar hawk
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My friend went to a trade school for art

sage prawn
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I am eligible for "technician programmer" after I finish this school

solar hawk
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Or like a sorta trade school

sage prawn
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I am studying CS in this school

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Last year 🙏

solar hawk
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Kewl

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So what stuff did you learn recently

sage prawn
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Probably best and worst choice of my life

sage prawn
solar hawk
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School

sage prawn
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In this school last thing I learned was that I cannot depend on the materials provided by the teachers regarding my career

solar hawk
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Like I mean the material

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Like asymptotics and stuff

sage prawn
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Oh that was way back

solar hawk
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Ik

sly flint
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We are preparing for school leaving exams

solar hawk
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My parents friend is studying cs at my dream school and she said she is learning about compilers

tender cobalt
# solar hawk Ik

i forgot what you answered with the first time, how did you learn calculus?

solar hawk
sage prawn
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That's cool!

sage prawn
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I like low level the most

solar hawk
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First I watched 3b1b “essence of calculus” on YouTube

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Then I started using Kahn academy until my textbook arrived

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And then I grinded that during school

tender cobalt
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ah okay cool

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what about your precalc knowledge?

sly flint
solar hawk
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And then after I passed the test in the back of a book I pushed everything out of my mind and forgot about it

solar hawk
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I didn’t really learn calculus

sage prawn
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Imma dip, goodnight!

solar hawk
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I just learned algebra 2 from a book that was a bit above algebra 2 and then went on hole patching mode

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If that makes sense

sly flint
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G'night!

solar hawk
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So like, it covered some precalc but it didn’t cover it all, so I would just do math and see stuff I didn’t know and search it up and learn it

tender cobalt
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so you essentually know conceptual calculus but if i threw a random integral at you you couldnt compute it?

solar hawk
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Like trig identities

sly flint
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If you gave me like

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A snack and a piece of paper

tender cobalt
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lol yeah

solar hawk
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And didn’t watch my work until the end

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Idk why

tender cobalt
solar hawk
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I hate peooke watching me work

tender cobalt
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in regards to calculus specifically i mean

solar hawk
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So like

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Somewhere in calc 3

tender cobalt
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well thats conceptually

solar hawk
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Like I can program gradient descent but I forgot stokes

solar hawk
tender cobalt
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oh cool

solar hawk
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But higher math is pretty conceptual

tender cobalt
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im currently at algebra 2 level computation and conceptually im in calc 1 lol

solar hawk
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I mean you don’t usually write out all the pairs of (integer, natural) to prove Z has the same cardinality as N

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Ykwim

tender cobalt
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but idrc about conceptual understandings if i cant actually do the math

solar hawk
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Wdym sus

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Shuri why

jagged forge
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where do u see shuri

solar hawk
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Nvm

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That is shuris emote

tender cobalt
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i know that an integral is just the area under a curve (when it has a bound) but if y you actually threw one at me i'd just stare at it lmao

solar hawk
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I never seen anyone else use it

jagged forge
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yeah im siding with eclipse here, the proof is in the pudding

solar hawk
sly flint
solar hawk
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I guess it depends on what I meant by conceptual

tender cobalt
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thats abt it

solar hawk
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But like when I say “computational linear algebra”, I mean multiplying matrices

sly flint
solar hawk
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Like I took a computational LA course once and that’s what it was like

solar hawk
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So solve this then

jagged forge
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i do not consider myself to have learned something unless i can pick up a textbook and complete problems from it successfully

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and watching videos is not gonna get me there

solar hawk
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dy/dx = 2x

solar hawk
tender cobalt
solar hawk
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I’m confused ;-;

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There was problems, and the concepts motivate the computations

jagged forge
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so you did do calc 3 problems then

solar hawk
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Yea

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For a while

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Obviously I quit like 75 % of the way there

sly flint
solar hawk
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And forgot a lot of stuff but I remember the important things to me

tender cobalt
solar hawk
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Like I can integrate 2d shapes if you give me some bounds and stuff

jagged forge
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can you do change of variables to polar coordinates

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for an integral

solar hawk
sly flint
solar hawk
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Like I could but I didn’t understand what I was doing

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They didn’t explain the jacobian

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It was just there..

jagged forge
solar hawk
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I could open up the course notes and memorize it again though

jagged forge
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i mean they teach you how to do 3x3 determinants

solar hawk
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Yeah but I just didn’t understand why it was there

jagged forge
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sounds about right

solar hawk
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Yea so then I quit

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Since they don’t explain it 😭😭

jagged forge
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learn differential forms sotrue

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then it all falls out naturally

solar hawk
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Sounds hard

jagged forge
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or just think of the determinant in terms of signed volume

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that's probably easier

solar hawk
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I know what a determinant is

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Idk what the jacobian is

solar hawk
tender cobalt
# sly flint Awesome. Now using this you can derive the derivative of any continuous function...

in a nutshell tho i noticed that the rate of change of x^2 was changing and so i noticed that i could manually approximate the rate of change on x^2 between two points it by hand
but that was too slow so i had troposphere help me generalize it and i got f(x+1)-f(x) but that only approximates the rate of change between x,y and x+1,y so suremark essentially called me out on that
so he kinda pushed me a tiny bit which led to me generalizing it to f(x+h)-f(x)/h
then i tested making h really small which led to the derivative of that point
so in a sense i derived (not the math kind) the limit def of a derivative from my initial observation which im SUPER proud of (thanks to suremark and tropo for helping with that)

jagged forge
solar hawk
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Eclipse to didn’t do my problem :(

loud snow
solar hawk
tender cobalt
solar hawk
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It wasn’t like that they didn’t explain ANYTHING

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They just said

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When moving to polar form put this infront of the differential

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It’s called the jacobian

jagged forge
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well im explaining it to you right now

tender cobalt
solar hawk
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Oh

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But idk diff forms

jagged forge
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you dont need differential forms

solar hawk
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Ok

loud snow
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amukh do you want to know what diff forms are?

jagged forge
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it's the scaling factor when you convert an infinitesimal volume in one coordinate system (dx dy) to an infinitesimal volume in another (dr dtheta)

solar hawk
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Something about the dx on the end of the integral maybe?🤔

little vine
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Oh shit

sly flint
little vine
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It makes so much sense

solar hawk
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Work the power rule backwards

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The power rule is x^n = nx^n-1

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This function is 2x^1

tender cobalt
solar hawk
tender cobalt
solar hawk
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Like why does the matrix scale like that

jagged forge
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if you perturb x and y by a small amount, dx and dy, it tells you how much r and theta are perturbed

little vine
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I'm perturbed by my headache

solar hawk
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Damn

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Did u drink water

little vine
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Yeah

tender cobalt
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i could derive d/dx 3x^3 + 2x^2 + 3x lol the power rule and constant rule isnt very tricky and it could easily be taught in like an 8th grade algebra class

little vine
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It'll be all right. Been feeling bad all day

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But anyway

little vine
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Determinant is the scale factor

solar hawk
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Power rule takes you from the original function to the derivative

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How do you get from the derivative back

tender cobalt
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yeah ik thats just the anti derivative

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but that is literally all the calc i can do

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(for now)

solar hawk
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That’s what integrating is tho

tender cobalt
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anyways i need to go finish my paper ill be back here when im done (theres not much left)

solar hawk
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That’s what I’m sayin

loud snow
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one thing is volume change under change of basis

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this is useful a lot of times in diff geom

solar hawk
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$\frac{d}{dx} x^2 = 2x$, $\int 2x dx = x^2 + C$

fathom swallowBOT
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amukh1 | Jay, Wraith Obsesseddd

loud snow
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well the matrix itself doesnt represent the volume change, but the determinat of it does

solar hawk
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The determinant is the scaling factor from the domain to the range right

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Because of what the matrix did

loud snow
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ye

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its used in ODEs too

solar hawk
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Why

loud snow
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its useful for finding equilibrium states of a system of ODEs

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the system of ODEs is the jacobian matrix

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it can also be used for generalized versions of gradient descent

solar hawk
loud snow
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if the function you are minimizing has multiple variables and some other assumptions

jagged forge
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reminds me of some robotics stuff i used to be interested in

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say you want to move your end effector by de where e is the position of the end effector

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and say your parameter vector is theta

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J dtheta = de

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so simply do dtheta = J^-1 de

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now you know how to tweak your parameters to move in the right direction

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actually i think you have to take the pseudoinverse but yeah

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close enough

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since the effector can't move in an arbitrary direction, J is singular, but taking the pseudoinverse gets you as close as possible under least-squares or something

loud snow
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yea

little vine
jagged forge
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ftc moment opencry

little vine
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But ftc ties them together

loud snow
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there is probably something else that ties them together too

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but thats all i know about

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cus question about when you can commute integral and differential operators def comes up sometimes

little vine
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So |determinant| equals volume just by virtue of obeying the properties of finding the volume of a parallelpiped?

jagged forge
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it's linear in each side (makes sense), alternating (degenerate parallelepipeds have 0 volume), and uhhhh the unit parallelepiped has volume 1

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that characterizes the determinant

tender cobalt
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i finally finished it

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i didnt put much effort into it tho since i dont really care about forgers tbh

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its for my forensics class (it's due tomorrow)

zealous garden
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The determinant requires the outermorphism

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The determinant is the scaling factor of an outermorphism evaluated on the pseudoscalar

solar hawk
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whsg an outermorphisms

zealous garden
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The pseudoscalar is most easily expressed as a parallelopiped

zealous garden
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You have two options

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Ask me, or have me link two YouTube shorts

solar hawk
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Shorts?

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Okay

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What’s a parallelopiped vs a regular parallelogram?

little vine
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I found this

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Motivated my question

zealous garden
little vine
zealous garden
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Watch in opposite order

jagged forge
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oh god the vertical embeds catscream

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make it stop

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i just got triple flashbanged

solar hawk
little vine
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Lol my b

solar hawk
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Multivectors?

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Bro what is the pre req here

jagged forge
solar hawk
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Geometry algebra?! lol bro I’m stupid asf u can’t do that

jagged forge
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oh boy

solar hawk
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Bivector 💀

zealous garden
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wraith obsessed
doesn't know what a multivector is

jagged forge
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amukh how are you just hearing about this

solar hawk
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Cuz

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I always zone out on slugumoe videos

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Or just ignore them

jagged forge
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you bring shame to the wraith clan

solar hawk
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I even unsubscribed cuz it was too hard

zealous garden
solar hawk
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Cuz

zealous garden
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His videos are like 1 star difficulty

solar hawk
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Cuz I thought it was linear algebra right

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If that makes sense

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So I was dissapointed

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To see it wasn’t

zealous garden
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Do you mean Zero to Geo?

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And it is Linear Algebra

solar hawk
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Algbra**

solar hawk
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Just in general his videos

zealous garden
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There are two ways to look at it, either Geometric Algebra is an extension of Linear Algebra which subsumes it and reframes it,

Or Geometric Algebra is a part of the Linear Algebra toolbox and thus is Linear Algebra

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In either case, by using GA to reframe Linear Algebra, it again is Linear Algebra

solar hawk
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Ok

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That’s sketchy af tho

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Does it have vector spaces and stuff?

zealous garden
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But he was very clear that he was talking about GA the whole time

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He proved the properties of the wedge and Geometric product to use them instead of matrices and determinants on his homework he says

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And yes it has vectorspaces

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Of course it does

solar hawk
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Ok so a bivector is an art

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Area*

little vine
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Ah yes one star difficultylooks up bivector

solar hawk
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Area*

zealous garden
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A bivector is an oriented area

solar hawk
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Bro how do you have that definition memorized word for word

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You actually fr be knowing GA

zealous garden
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A vector is an oriented slice of a 1 dimensional subspace

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Which makes it an oriented line segment

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A bivector is an oriented slice of a 2 dimensional subspace

neat lintel
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what is a line segment?

jagged forge
zealous garden
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Which makes it an oriented area

solar hawk
zealous garden
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Do you require initiation Cali

little vine
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I'm scared

solar hawk
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What happened

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Sluggymoe pfp kinda cute

little vine
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Sludgy wacamole

zealous garden
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Sudgylacmoe looks like Clifford

zealous garden
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Let $p_1, p_2$ be points within the line $l$, so that $p_1 \vee l = 0 = p_2 \vee l$

fathom swallowBOT
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wraithlord_kograduate

zealous garden
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Then the line segment $\ell_{p_1}^{p_2} := {q \in l \mid \norm{q\vee p_1}\infty + \norm{q \vee p_2}\infty = \norm{p_1 \vee p_2}_\infty}$

Is the set of points on the line whose distance to the bounding points adds to the distance between the bounding points.

fathom swallowBOT
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wraithlord_kograduate

solar hawk
zealous garden
solar hawk
livid berry
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Does anyone here own the ti-84 plus ce python edition?

jagged forge
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the what

tender cobalt
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i am losing my fucking mind rn with khan academy

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if i get a problem wrong and i click on the explanation is basically says fucking nothing

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and i have to solve the absolute riddle of an explanation they give me and try to apply it to another problem

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and big shocker i get it wrong

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omg i finally solved all the riddles

neat lintel
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you wont solve this riddle though

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what are all of the nontrivial zeroes to the riemann zeta function?

brave shell
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I don't consider any of the zeros to be trivial.

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There's actually a lot more to them once you get to know them.

neat lintel
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okay, find all of the zeroes then

brave shell
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No.

neat lintel
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damn

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congrats youve defeated my riddle

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now you may have a cookie

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🍪

brave shell
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Nah I just brushed my teeth.

burnt ledge
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sphinx allows you passage

neat lintel
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nom

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yummy cookie :>

brave shell
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Does that mean you solved the riddle? Someone call up the committee. World's youngest Field Medalist.

neat lintel
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lmao

brave shell
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Maths research contains a ticking time bomb. You just know some day some cracked 14 year old will get a field medal and we'll see a wave of resignations throughout all of mathematics. Naturally, this will not impact larger society in any noticable way.