serious-discussion

[manic skiff]

very important question for me

[manic skiff]

real talk: streaming math is very interesting

[cunning wigeon]

Streaming what exactly? Homework? Research?

[manic skiff]

problem solving, research

[flint basin]

I don't think streaming research would be very interesting

[cunning wigeon]

I feel like you don't want many viewers and distracting donations then

[manic skiff]

well u dont stream math for donations

[cunning wigeon]

Yes but I feel like you really don't want notifications that would distract you

[manic skiff]

why? same thing being done in programming twitch streams and it's very interesting

while solving problems etc

[flint basin]

Programming ≠ research lmao

[cunning wigeon]

In programming you can live code
In math you can live mess

[manic skiff]

everyone thought coding is live mess tho

[cunning wigeon]

Math is waaay worse in that regard

[manic skiff]

imo i think it would be like solving problems in group

[cunning wigeon]

This isn't how you do research
Even if you collab in research you have strictly split tasks

[manic skiff]

hmm well maybe i dont know about research..

but solving problems is great for streams

hell i watch alot of programming streams and everytime i think why not math around here

[flint basin]

Sitting there thinking about one very minute detail of a proof for 2 hours is not a very interesting stream.

[cunning wigeon]

You could probably stream homework quite well

[manic skiff]

i agree

[mint canopy]

Why not proof assistant streams. Maths + programming all in one

Answering my own question here: it's because when people do programming streams, often it's with something where you can visually see the result immediately.

e.g. gamedev

[jagged forge]

based

watching me swear at lean while playing the natural number game probably would have been entertaining

[little vine]

@mint canopy is your pfp pluto

[burnt ledge]

yea htats pluto

[neat lintel]

The last programming stream I watched was a guy who was programming their own quant trading platform

there were no results

just talk about people who committed financial crimes

[mint canopy]

It is, yeah

[little vine]

I recognized it from the class I teach

Pretty amazing shot they got

[flint basin]

wtf is this new profile pic cali

[wet mortar]

russian sleep experiment

[little vine]

It's adorable

I'm being festive

[little vine]

I felt cheated because they never referenced this photo in the creepypasta

[flint basin]

Guys I need to go do work someone please make me do work

[tight comet]

meow

[flint basin]

meow!

[tight comet]

do work!

[pulsar pagoda]

@flint basin ill start talking about software engineering

will that help?

[flint basin]

oh no I must leave now before it's too late

[pulsar pagoda]

true friends motivate friends to work

[flint basin]

this one is a threat, not motivation

[pulsar pagoda]

so here was I preparing for a sprint, and my manager was asking me if I had any updates before the meeting...

[jagged forge]

@loud snow did you mean teleported to another place? i guess you can call the teleportservice from a script builder.... ooof

[loud snow]

no lol

teleport service in popular front page games

because there was a popular secruity exploit at the time that lets you run dev console

and you can just lua inject into the game and teleport service people to desired place

so you would join 30+ player servers and teleport people and then keep going

[jagged forge]

[loud snow]

idk if popular was the right word though

[jagged forge]

i joined a server with telamon once

it was being hacked

[loud snow]

lol

[jagged forge]

and someone renamed me to mrdoombringer

[loud snow]

ive seen my fair share of admins

[jagged forge]

since my username was doombringer42

[loud snow]

yeah framing people too lol

ngl exploiting was so fun

[pulsar pagoda]

https://tenor.com/Hxe0.gif

[loud snow]

some people peak in HS

i peaked in roblox

[jagged forge]

lmao

socially i peaked in hs

[loud snow]

i physically peaked in hs

[jagged forge]

i physically peaked in middle school, is that bad lol

[loud snow]

probably lol

[jagged forge]

i used to be athletic, now im fat

i was top 30 in the nation in fencing too

[loud snow]

im still sort of athletic but ive been injured

[jagged forge]

(in my age group)

[loud snow]

bro wtf

nationally ranked is crazy

[jagged forge]

my fencing club had a lot of top tier people

and some top tier coaches

also he made the smart decision of recruiting students from my school, which was exclusively for gifted people

he had a lot of good fencers from that school

[loud snow]

gifted programs are cool concept

but probably bad in enough ways

i wish early schooling had a coorporate structure

that way I could be a class manager in 3rd grade

[jagged forge]

i liked it a lot better than public school and normal private school

[loud snow]

idk why its called gifted

it just stratifies kids who care about school topics and kids who don't or can't

[jagged forge]

the people at that school were legitimately gifted

[zealous garden]

Calling it gifted is inappropriate

But you should give a student as much stimulation and advancement as they can receive

[jagged forge]

how is that inappropriate

[zealous garden]

Because it implies that it's not something that the student has done

[jagged forge]

are you saying people got into the school solely by studying

[zealous garden]

True they didn't choose to understand it more easily or like it more easily than their peers, but their efforts in understanding the concepts and solving the problems is genuine

And from outside, it feels like it's a group you can't join

[loud snow]

this is real though

[zealous garden]

Because a gift doesn't come from yourself

[loud snow]

especially for kids. its sad but by cirucumstance there will be kids that can't keep up

[zealous garden]

That's what I'm saying, gifted reinforces that feeling

Whether or not it's true, reflecting it in the language is only discouraging

[loud snow]

I personally don't know if kids care that deeply about language and maybe they only feel this way as they get older

[zealous garden]

The job is to uplift

[loud snow]

because thats how I felt

[zealous garden]

I think kids think about it as deeply

But don't care because they lack the ability to self analyze deeply enough to see how and why they care

And so can't identify and express it

Like I have a cognitive response in an instant, even if it takes me over a minute to explain what happened cognitively. The child is simply never able to explain the cognition

[loud snow]

i was def salty that I knew gifted programs existed but I couldnt be in them because my school district was broke

yeah I mean I am all for renaming it

But I have a feeling it might become a bureaucratic topic

[zealous garden]

Being in the gifted program I had complaints, I don't truly know what it's like on the outside of it

[loud snow]

because that tends to happen in education

[zealous garden]

But I never felt challenged by the program

Except for when they started asking for outlines and drafts instead of just final assignments

[loud snow]

.

start em young

drafting is good honestly

but i dont think children can ever do it properly

[zealous garden]

Understanding the importance requires a certain level of thought about consequences and how things develop realistically over time, things that you see a lot less of in children

They need brain development and life experience

[loud snow]

the idea of grading drafts or outlines has always seemed dumb to me

[zealous garden]

The grade for that should be "did you do it"

[loud snow]

the way I write drafts now are unintelligible but they come with finished products

[zealous garden]

I don't like "submit anything" grades

I'm sinfully prideful

If I'm not proud of what I've done I stubbornly refuse to submit anything

Historically speaking

I've had a lot of character development

[jagged forge]

i have never been exposed to this opinion about the "gifted" label and still don't really understand it

the line is blurry, sure, but some people are just built different and have different needs

recognizing who is and isn't is always going to be a source of controversy

my first school legitimately thought i was stupid, supposedly, because i stayed silent when they were interviewing 5 year old me

my father had it worse -- his school told him he was mentally r-worded (it was the 50s)

[zealous garden]

I was very lucky, educators around me went out of their way to help me out

[jagged forge]

and while i think of myself as smart, i have met people that make me feel stupid

[zealous garden]

Inside I just felt the crushing weight of their expectations

[jagged forge]

well, honestly my school was not super-high pressure like that

[zealous garden]

Or maybe mine

I was probably projecting

[jagged forge]

we had a lot of smart but objectively bad students at my school

[zealous garden]

They told me I could be anything, I took that to mean I must be something immense and great

[jagged forge]

in fact we had a lot of people with disorders of some kind

[zealous garden]

I never thought it could mean I could be whatever I wanted

[jagged forge]

i definitely heard the "you guys will be presidents and astronauts" thing from a teacher once, but i don't think anyone took it to heart in that environment

when it comes to expectations, for instance our math teacher took us to math competitions, and we never really beat the other schools, but he didn't really care

he was more focused on teaching fundamentals

he taught me and the other two 8th graders the formal definition of a limit (in plain english)

[zealous garden]

My math teacher refused to take my work because I did it on the back side of the notebook paper I used

So the holes were on the wrong side

[jagged forge]

that fucking sucks

lmao

[zealous garden]

Which didn't stop me from doing it

Because I could never pay enough attention to the fucking piece of paper while I was doing math

Why would I be thinking about that

I'm doing the digits

[jagged forge]

i will say i spent 2 years in algebra 1, because these new principals with no understanding of giftedness just said, "well they're gifted, let's let them teach themselves at their own pace"

and so i slogged through the textbook on my own for 2 years cuz i wasn't that passionate about math yet

[zealous garden]

That's hilarious and sad

[jagged forge]

they're smart! they'll figure it out on their own! lol

[zealous garden]

Most adults can't teach themselves, I wouldn't leave it to a child

Sure they can do it, but a drunk person occasionally can drive, doesn't mean you put that in your plan for the evening

[tiny saddle]

[teal lion]

To be honest, I’d argue that’s better than forcing them to take an unnecessary class. If you force the unnecessary class, it actively wastes their time and forces them to work on their own.

[jagged forge]

maybe, but in what world is algebra 1 an unnecessary class, particularly for someone who is shown to excel in math (i was several years ahead at the time)

children think a lot of things are unnecessary without necessarily thinking about their future

[visual breach]

Children are not idiots tho

[zealous garden]

They are compared to themselves in the future

We're all stupid because we're not done learning

And if you're done learning, I pity your soul

Less abstractly, no matter who you are, you won't process decisions, planning, and your emotions the same as a 25 year old as you do when 8, 13, 15, 18, or even 21

And that trend follows one of development and complexification

A large part of the ability to be gained with age is the ability to abstain from pleasures for your own betterment

[true marlin]

cansomeone help

[zealous garden]

Children just want to play

The adult must go to work, and indeed seeks a job when without one

This is necessary for stewarding your own studies

[neat lintel]

YO

ANYONE

ONLINE

I HAVE DONE SOMETHING

QUITE INSANE

[neat lintel]

Nice

i cant send here

mind me dming u

[neat lintel]

Do not dm

[jovial ember]

How insane is it

On a scale of 0 to 10

[neat lintel]

you are either gonna call me a genius or a dumbass

[jovial ember]

Why can’t you send it here

Lol

[neat lintel]

no images

#chill

bet

[haughty apex]

Oh my god

What the hell

Dumbass

[neat lintel]

!!!

[haughty apex]

Like my eyes did not need to see that

At this hour too

[weak vector]

x^2

[shy depot]

anyone good at chem

i need help bad

[sonic field]

!help

[quasi jetty]

To ask for mathematics help on this server, please open your own help channel or help thread. See #❓how-to-get-help for instructions.

[magic moat]

Can anyone give some words of wisdom to a first year math major that feels like a fraud

[unique acorn]

attempt to not kiys

[ocean harbor]

there's a chem server in #old-network

[forest vale]

"do the HW and try to understand them"

[visual breach]

You can induce Dunning-Kruger effect by learning overly hard subject

"Ah yes I got this! (Not really)"

[raven plaza]

Imposter syndrome?

[tight comet]

1. Math skills don't define your worth.
2. Math skills don't define others' worth.

[magic moat]

All my other courses are fine but number theory is obliterating my self esteem

idk it's not even that hard and I can apply stuff and all but I just lack intuition and ir makes me feel like a moron

[magic moat]

i'll try

[magic moat]

I think so. I also study way to long and the only breaks I take is for caffeine induced panic attacks. (not real panic attacks I just have to lay down for a bit)

I also barely eat and I look like shit.

[raven plaza]

Don't caffeine

[magic moat]

I can't take breaks without feeling guilty

I tell my gf I'm going to take a day of studying but once she leaves for work I head to the library without her knowing like a gambling addict sneaking into the casino

I always wanted to study math but always felt to stupid but know I feel like i'm overdoing it because I couldn't handle failing

Today someone from my study group pointed out a mistake I made in latex and I almost lost it

[magic moat]

i guess I know that but I feel like my life would have no meaning if didn't perform.

[magic moat]

It's funny because most people in my social circle couldn't care less about math and but I always feel like I'm letting them down.
It's insane

[icy locust]

what would give your life meaning provided you did perform? It's just grades and those don't contribute to society or anything

you already do better than a lot of people by not being demanding to others

[magic moat]

I don't think there is any logic behind my motivation performing just allows me to not feel this sense of dread for a while

[icy locust]

oh so you want to keep yourself busy

[magic moat]

Don't get me wrong I love mathematics more than anything and I have always seen it as a hobby and enjoyed every second but now that it'S official it has just become an obsession

[magic moat]

A lot of people think I don't know what to do with my life because I made this decision.

I guess it's also to prove them right

[magic moat]

I think I should probably get help I sound like a crazy person#

[icy locust]

be careful, internalizing judgment from others can be a quick way to burnout

[icy locust]

you're probably not alone lol

[magic moat]

I think I'm on my way there.
I look horrible I don't know what happened in the past months but I lost a lot of weight and I look very sick

I'm not depressed or anything just anxious all the time if I'm not doign something

The problem is also that I'm doing three things at a time.

[visual breach]

Strange. Esp since this is coming from someone with gf

[magic moat]

I'm an apprentice, mathmajor and i'm finishing my high school diploma at the same time.

It's weird but I managed to get to uni before having my "Abitur" which is required to access uni but I am allowed to study there but I won't get my Bachelors Diploma until I have finished school

[magic moat]

I know it makes me feel horrible

[visual breach]

I guess you really want to do some math

[magic moat]

I guess. I also often think that maybe if I got help i'd realise that I'm doing all of that for my ego and that I then won't keep doing math.
That's what keeps me from getting help mainly

[visual breach]

Ahh

Thing is.. you cannot do mathematics if you are so shy from help

[magic moat]

I don't know if that makes sense

[visual breach]

I think even experts look for help time to time in conferences

[magic moat]

Well it probably does not make sense at all, but I hope you get what im trying to say

[visual breach]

Yea, it makes sense

Just that, imho you do need to overcome that to continue doing math.

[magic moat]

i guess it's either that or breaking down and then failing for real

Number theory is still super weird

[visual breach]

Yea it is

Well, you can suck at some fields

You do not need to excel at everything.

[magic moat]

I guess so, I just thought it wouldn't be the queen of all math fields

[visual breach]

After all, number theory is just one of many mathematics subfields.

[magic moat]

Yeah I know also I 'm to early into my degree I can't know what I'll be good at in the end

[visual breach]

True, but you do get the feeling that num theory is not for you

Right?

[magic moat]

I do :/

[visual breach]

Yep, follow your feelings

Again, you do not need to be good at everything

[magic moat]

Thank you I needed to hear that

[visual breach]

Np!

[magic moat]

Can I ask you if you had a similar experience?

[visual breach]

Well, I do get frustrated often with math. Also I lack self-esteem. Tho, I avoid defining my life by math.

Guess it depends, person by person.

[magic moat]

I guess so, maybe if I was able to just do math and wasn't in the weird situation I am i would stress about it as much.
I mean ofc I'm always going to have to have a job to support myself but this is just to much.
40-50h of work plus 30h of studying.

I can never take a weekend of just for myself and the little time I do have I try to do somthing with my girlfiend which is great and I love her but I'm so exhausted that I can barely enjoy it.

Sorry for dumping this on you. I think I'm just going to have a nap or take a bath to relax.

[visual breach]

Ah, that must be stressful then.

I hope you take time, get relaxed, and refresh yourself

Maybe you are just tired.

[magic moat]

I will. Thank you again have a great day

[visual breach]

You too!

[magic moat]

Math is great though, I love that I was able to find something I can be this passionate about

[unique acorn]

michael penn is great for number theory, if you can't understand that well

[cloud wraith]

Michael penn is the goat

[magic moat]

Yeah I love that guy

[unique acorn]

fr

[neat lintel]

Can anyone of you guys help me with this one question? This is pretty tricky

Looks like the help forum is not helping since people skipping this question

[blissful verge]

???????????|

[neat lintel]

They're not helping because its the help forums

Open a channel

[neat lintel]

Solved actually

[neat lintel]

@frank torrent @round siren how's it going guys

[frank orchid]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vW4TjU4IoPY&t=49s What kinda problem is this?
Trying to solve it know seeing if I can

[arctic osprey]

Can someone guess why I think that the integral from -inf to +inf of 1/x^2 dx = 0 ?

[glacial robin]

Because your math is wrong

[arctic osprey]

lol

[glacial robin]

It should be infinite because the graph never ends

[arctic osprey]

yessss..., but not quite

[neat lintel]

false

[glacial robin]

Ok why were you thinkimg zero

[arctic osprey]

well, if you simply solve the integral it does give you 0
that's something you and I can say

[glacial robin]

Hmmmm

[neat lintel]

You're wrong

[arctic osprey]

tell me why?

[glacial robin]

What is a bunny suppose to know about intergrals

[neat lintel]

$$\forall x \in \mathbb{R} , \frac{1}{x^2} > 0$$

[arctic osprey]

what the...

[fathom swallow]

help me

[jagged forge]

oh this isn’t even a matter of conditional convergence

since the exponent is even

[icy locust]

x=0, then undefined

[arctic osprey]

all x that is a real number, within 1/x^2 wil be greater than 0,
that's what it says

[glacial robin]

Oh so now ya Wana talk

I see how it is.

[fathom swallow]

luke1337

[arctic osprey]

and if x= what you call undefined, then 1/x^2 = 0

[neat lintel]

$\frac{1}{0} = 1$

[fathom swallow]

help me

[arctic osprey]

maybe to calculate it's final possition when he makes a certain force to jump lol

[glacial robin]

The force it takes munch on carrots

And the final velocity it takes to jump

New discussion

[arctic osprey]

well, thats more like muscle memory of the bunny
ha

[arctic osprey]

if you allow the reciprocal of 0 to exist, like I do, then this wouldn't be quite true

[glacial robin]

0 Celsius/ 0 celsius = 0
273k/273k =1

Math don't add up

[arctic osprey]

1

anything divided by itself is wang, wemember (humoristic)

[glacial robin]

Wang?

[arctic osprey]

one

[glacial robin]

No

Type in your calculator

0/0

You get zero

[arctic osprey]

no

you get undefined, or math error AC, goto <- ->

[glacial robin]

Ok but realistically

0 goes into 0 zero times

Therefore should be 0

[arctic osprey]

no

0 goes into itself only 1 time

other wise you would be saying 0 / 0^2

[glacial robin]

How can 0 go into 0 if zero is zero. Zero sense

[arctic osprey]

Zero theory lol

[glacial robin]

Zero theory so stupid just like Murphy's laws

[arctic osprey]

no, like my zero theory

[glacial robin]

Oh

Well your wrong

[arctic osprey]

i haven't explained this to you yet
tho it doesnt yet explain why the integral over there = 0

[glacial robin]

Because zero is imaginary

[arctic osprey]

oh yes, i do agree on that lol

[cloud wraith]

How long should it take to go through a math book

[arctic osprey]

idk. what i know is that I dont like how math books teach that much

[glacial robin]

Reading it thoughly should take hours

Skimming would take less than an hour

And depends on page

Length

And completely

Complexity

[arctic osprey]

lol

[glacial robin]

It autocorrected

[cloud wraith]

But you should do problems too

so it's not good to read it in one sitting

[glacial robin]

Oh in that case months

Literally months

[cloud wraith]

lmao

[arctic osprey]

oh, so; wait you said how ling should it take to go through

[cloud wraith]

damn

[glacial robin]

Ling

[icy locust]

Instead of arguing about 0/0 y'all can just figure out hyperreal numbers

[glacial robin]

We love ling

[arctic osprey]

and to go though a book,
you have to breake it with a hammer and go through?
would you even fit! in?

[glacial robin]

Or we can burn it, and it will vaporize within minutes

[arctic osprey]

i kindof got to it in anythere way, did I

i use powers of 0 and inf

[glacial robin]

0 is a scaler

In terms of length

Can't have -1 cm

[cloud wraith]

what about surreal numbers

[arctic osprey]

not quite, i can say 2x0, -0, 0i, -0i, 2x0 -i etc.

[glacial robin]

Yes because zero is imaginary

[arctic osprey]

what are these?

[cloud wraith]

Im just reading Understanding Analysis by Abbott so shouldn't take long

[arctic osprey]

you imagine it, but you can make ideas real, so

[cloud wraith]

(I hope I finish it in two weeks)

[glacial robin]

Cool.

Otherwise

There is an app that summarize books

Within minutes

[arctic osprey]

and also youtube

[cloud wraith]

But reading is better

[glacial robin]

Facts

[cloud wraith]

Especially for science

[glacial robin]

Reading is only good if you have time

Like Andrew Tate would say. Time is valuable. Don't f with the things that are not important

[cloud wraith]

what

[glacial robin]

Ok I might've over exaggerated

[arctic osprey]

lol, wait, vaporize?
what liquid in here?

[glacial robin]

But he would say time is what you can never get back. So use it on the important things in life.

[glacial robin]

That's the joke. It's a solid!

[arctic osprey]

ye, to give it more stength

[cloud wraith]

I don't think it's possible to effectively summarise a math book

[arctic osprey]

I do think so

[glacial robin]

Well

You can speed run

[arctic osprey]

it might depent

[glacial robin]

Watching Indian youtubers

[cloud wraith]

And it's a bad idea to summarise lmao

[arctic osprey]

ok, you might be a bit unclear on some things

[cloud wraith]

Since you need to know all the notations and theorems and everything

[glacial robin]

Like zoom zoom, and swoosh swoosh.

[arctic osprey]

?

ANYWAY,
just read the book with some nice music🏁

[glacial robin]

Ok tell me when the fudge cake where you used derivatives in real life

Or polynomials

With insane degress

[arctic osprey]

in analog computerssssss

[glacial robin]

And what about complex numbers?

Bc we don't use complex number in the real world

[arctic osprey]

well

[cloud wraith]

math's the boss behind the scenes, but it's chill enough to let you live your non-calculus moments too

[arctic osprey]

they are usefull for 2d rotations and stuff

[glacial robin]

Like we cant be having a car going -root 3i

[cloud wraith]

You don't need maths for everything in life, but it sure is hella necessary for explaining the universe

And inventing things

[glacial robin]

That's physics

[arctic osprey]

bc complex numbers simply NA to that
untill you extend it to that

[cloud wraith]

Physics relies on maths

Maths rely on logic

[glacial robin]

Ok that's true

[dense wraith]

I don't give a shit whether math is usefull or not. Go on amd find something to use it with, not our problem

Too rude, sorry

[arctic osprey]

well, math is used practically everywhere behind the courtain

[cloud wraith]

Well you should care if what you're doing is useful or not

[glacial robin]

Jab the type of dude to mess in a chem lab and make funky experiments

[cloud wraith]

It gives you more insight

[dense wraith]

No i shouldn't

[arctic osprey]

what about https://desmos.com/calculator

[peak tide]

but service courses to other majors are what pays a lot of the bills in math departments...

including funding graduate students

[glacial robin]

All fun and games when you give a patient the wrong dosage due to inacurate math solving

[cloud wraith]

haha so true

[dense wraith]

I mean, great if you can apply math! But most math being researched don't and won't have an immediate application

[arctic osprey]

yeah

[cloud wraith]

Ofc

[glacial robin]

Let's just say half of the things we learn in school is absolutely useless

[arctic osprey]

or when you dont calculate the right ammount of tubes in a structure (it colapses like ΞΞΞΞΞΞΞΞ)

[dense wraith]

Just like physics

[glacial robin]

Or calculating the amount of moles in a solution for chemistry

[cloud wraith]

But practically all maths is built on a pragmatic basis

So everything that follows would be of a pragmatic cause

[dense wraith]

Usually research emgineers and physicists are responsible for finding applications to math, so leave them to do it

[arctic osprey]

the math that a computer does to graph everything in a game

[dense wraith]

Of course not, that is insane

[jagged forge]

my chemistry teacher used to call it a “dead baby” when you write .1 instead of 0.1

[solar hawk]

Why a dead baby 💀

[jagged forge]

because you misread the dosage and administered 1mg instead of .1 mg

[glacial robin]

Yuh

[peak tide]

oho

[solar hawk]

Ohh I see

[arctic osprey]

lol

[jagged forge]

[peak tide]

so there is a legit reason for that leading 0. in some contexts

[solar hawk]

💀bro that would be so sad

[jagged forge]

indeed

[arctic osprey]

what a valuable point

[glacial robin]

My teacher be giving fat red marks for not doing correct sig figs

[dense wraith]

Only 10 times more. The baby should be fine, i can tell

[arctic osprey]

a light movement on a little tiny dot and you multiply by POWERS OF TEN

[peak tide]

tbf, that only justifies the leading 0. for pharmarcists and doctors, why do the rest of us write it, haha

[glacial robin]

However there is one major problem about sig figs.

[arctic osprey]

woah, this chat is divergent

[peak tide]

oscillating to infinity

[glacial robin]

If you really want to be accurate you should really incorporate all the number, for example if you making a rocket ship go to space. You want to have all the numbers possible

[arctic osprey]

and, arround the tan(x), it all comes back home, but you have to get past eternity and round back

[glacial robin]

In physics we call it the equalibrum

Goes back to resting

[arctic osprey]

but you'll 1st need to pass throught all the powers of infinity and beyond

[glacial robin]

And how do you do that

[cloud wraith]

Is two weeks enough time to ace 3 exams

[glacial robin]

Hey I managed to do it in 1 week

Four four exams

But this was during hs

[cloud wraith]

wow

[arctic osprey]

sure

[glacial robin]

So I say it's doable

Is it college level?

[cloud wraith]

well I'm still in hs but our math teacher is popular for his hard tests

[glacial robin]

Oh you should be fine

Don't sweat it. In the real world they only look at your college grade, but in reality its the degree you get

How do I know? Multiple outside sources and from parents experience.

[cloud wraith]

Yeah well I still need good grades to get into a uni lmao

[glacial robin]

That's true

I did get a 3.9

Gpa

But went to a college that requires 2.5

In fact most colleges will accept gpa of 3.0 and above

But those good colleges you need 3.5

And those prestige you need 4.0 or better

[jagged forge]

oh we’re talking about high school gpa

[glacial robin]

Nah, we talking about the earth inertia

[jagged forge]

well there is no such thing as above 4.0 in college as far as i know

[glacial robin]

We were talking about hs, and yes there is no such thing as above 4.0

[rapid briar]

It’s a mess converting lol

[jagged forge]

it’s like 5.0 for ap classes right

[glacial robin]

Just like converting the damn English system to metric system. What a joke. United States messed up, no wonder why Americans are stupid and getting dumb every day

[jagged forge]

my school had 6.0 but i don’t remember wtf that was

[glacial robin]

Depends on the school, and the grading system

Most schools have 5 some only go to 4

[neat lintel]

don't you get above 4.0 for honors classes?

[jagged forge]

i think my school was 5.0 for honors and 6.0 for ap, or some bullshit like that

[teal lion]

that has ridiculous inflation

[jagged forge]

[teal lion]

"i have a 5.4 gpa"

[glacial robin]

Life not fair, touch grass

[teal lion]

?

the inflation isn't good for the students

[jagged forge]

why do i feel like you are salty about something

bro has been constantly sarcastic

[glacial robin]

Like salt water?

[glacial robin]

No because it's literally unfair to other students who can only get 4.0

[teal lion]

no?

[glacial robin]

When colleges look at the grades. Which is better? 5.0 or 4.0

[teal lion]

they adjust them to a 4.0 or 5.0 grade point system

nobody uses a 6.0 grade point system

[jagged forge]

i am pretty sure colleges will calculate it the way they want

yeah

[glacial robin]

But generally they take the higher grade. But there are other factors too

[teal lion]

part of why transcripts are so commonly self-reported is so that they can adjust that

you input the grades manually so that they can convert them to a standard grade

[glacial robin]

Honestly, it should just be a standardized grading scale

I don't see a point in this 6.0 or 5.0 nonsense

[jagged forge]

i mean it seems reasonable to give students taking ap classes a bonus

idk how it is done in other countries with similar programs to ap though

[neat lintel]

Yeah, it's not. we should do something about it

[neat lintel]

isn't the bonus supposed to be college credits?

doesn't make sense to add another bonus

[jagged forge]

perhaps, but how do you compare someone who got a slightly lower grade in an ap class to someone who got an A in a non-ap class

ideally using a number that can be fed into some database i am sure they use these stats to filter people out

[glacial robin]

Yea literally ap classes where made to get college credits without the intent of boosting gpa

But people kept complaining

And school system adopt

All squares are rectangle, therefore all rectangles are squares.

No one is proving me wrong

[long matrix]

[hot island]

Not really a math question. There's a good sale on school supplies at a local store. Starting college this spring. Are homework assignments expected to be done on Letter sized paper or do they not care what paper you use typically?

[glacial robin]

Depends on the school, my school does all homework online. I know some used college ruled paper for their assignments as well

[long matrix]

be that one person who does it on A1

[pure elk]

lmao

[storm sage]

This is not how colleges work

At least in the US

They have a school report which explains how the grading system works for each school and adjust the reported GPAs accordingly

[sick prism]

If you are given a quadratic equation and you want to find acceleration, do you divide the value of a in ax^2 by 2 or do you multiply it by 2?

[neat lintel]

what?

are you talking about

$$\Delta x = v_0 t + \frac{1}{2} a t^2$$

[fathom swallow]

help me

[sick prism]

yeah

[neat lintel]

Just isolate a

[sick prism]

y = ax^2+bx +c is the mathematical equation, while xf = ½ at^2+vit+xi is the physics relationship

[neat lintel]

$$\frac{2(\Delta x - v_0 t)}{t^2} = a $$

[fathom swallow]

help me

[sick prism]

So I need to multiply the ax^2 value in the mathematical equation by 2 to get the acceleration?

[neat lintel]

no idea what you're even saying

[loud snow]

I think I understand what you are curious about

You are wondering if a projectile is thrown and follows a parabola, how do you find the acceleration of the projectile over time given the equation for the parabola?

[sick prism]

yeah basically

[loud snow]

Well the two equations you had, the one for quadratic formula and the other for acceleration have different coefficients

so the general equation you write out for a quadratic formula isn't related to acceleration formula in physics

I would be curious for more context if I were to help. What is the exact question/ what do you already know about/ do you know what vectors are

nvm can't help anymore

[sick prism]

thanks for trying

[neat lintel]

💬

[frank torrent]

who pinged me =.=

[neat lintel]

#serious-discussion message

[frank torrent]

today is my school's report day

luckily my teacher told my mom my result is quite ok and i have no discipline issue and no teacher has complained about me

[frank torrent]

thanks btw

[neat lintel]

Anyone have tips for writing sexy c++ code?

or like exampls?

[rapid briar]

🥵

[pulsar pagoda]

cppreference is ur friend

[neat lintel]

I'm reading this https://scribe.citizen4.eu/swlh/doing-it-the-functional-way-in-c-5c392bbdd46a

cppreference is bad imo

[peak tide]

compared with what?

it's the de facto reference these days

i would go so far as to say it's the only good c++ site

[fathom swallow]

Shubh

[tiny charm]

https://socratic.org/questions/the-volume-of-ice-cream-in-the-cone-is-half-the-volume-of-the-cone-the-cone-has-

Is there a formal formula name for the formula I just discovered

Because I made up the formula by myself

[split pawn]

What do you mean by depth and perpendicular height. Aren't they the same?

@tiny charm

[split pawn]

Nvm

I checked the question

[raven plaza]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Square–cube_law#:~:text=The square–cube law can,the cube of the multiplier.

It applies to this question because the shape of the cone is a scaled version of the shape of the ice cream

[round siren]

sigh hi

its going

lmao

[solar hawk]

Unsafe code 🥵

I like bad programs

They are so badd

[pure elk]

what the truck did I just read

[neat lintel]

use that thing by which you can change the syntax

[pure elk]

use letters

[neat lintel]

#define

[short rose]

hello how can i remember many formulas?

[neat lintel]

use em

[umbral lion]

paint them inside your eyelids

[short rose]

i tend to forgot previous formulas as more formulas are being discussed

[umbral lion]

make sure to use radiographic paint

[short rose]

like making your own problems?

its still not effective to me tho

even fraction i forget on how to solve

[split pawn]

Do physics or physical chem]

In physical chem you get to do a lot of unnecessary arithmetic

[short rose]

but I do not do physics or physical chem

know*

do not know*

[split pawn]

Sad

[short rose]

oki

[umbral lion]

add them up

[neat lintel]

Do coordinate geometry

[umbral lion]

then paint them under your eyelids

[short rose]

I dont know how to

[short rose]

have you tried it?

[umbral lion]

yeah now i remember everything

[short rose]

oh nice

[split pawn]

Wait what

Grad+

...

[storm sage]

This is called similarity

It works because the stuff inside the cone and the cone itself have the same shape but different sizes

[split pawn]

I wonder what happens when you add another layer of immiscible liquid on top and it forms a frustum...

AP psych

[brave leaf]

yes AP Psych

[split pawn]

u like psych

?

[brave leaf]

nah, I'm doing horrible in the class lol

[split pawn]

Why'd you take it then

[brave leaf]

cause Psych is cool

[split pawn]

fancy gonna not be psychologist but gonna go to the nearest pd to apply for an interrogator

[brave leaf]

[split pawn]

idk why the grammar is messed up but ye

[brave leaf]

yeah i got the general idea dw lmao

[split pawn]

haha

[glacial robin]

If Muhammad has 5 appples and give 2 aways to fancy, how much apple do they both have.

[split pawn]

I'll give all five to fancy lol

He may need them more than me

Hes more tired than me at the day-end

[glacial robin]

Wrong anwser

Anwser is undefined because there are many people name Muhammad and fancy, therefore we don't know how much they have

[split pawn]

No.

My answer is right.

Let $f(t)$ be a function which returns how many apples $t$ has. Let $m\in{x:x\text{ is a person named Muhammad}}$ have $5$ apples ($f(m)=5$). Let $m$ give all 5 apples to an $n\in{y:y\text{ is a person named fancy}}$, for whom ($f(n)=0$). After the exchange, $f(m)=0, f(n)=5.\\$
Since we have to find $f(m)+f(n)$, in both cases, before and after the exchange, $f(m)+f(n)=5$

@glacial robin

@brave leaf

[split pawn]

read from here, fancy

[brave leaf]

proved him wrong, damn

[split pawn]

Lol.

[brave leaf]

then I give three back

[split pawn]

And then I give half back

Now f(m)=f(n)

[brave leaf]

then I give zeta(3) back

[split pawn]

Oh no.

I think I'm brewing something

[glacial robin]

Damn you got the whole problem figured out

[split pawn]

Don't mess with me

Haha

"those who abandon their friends..."

That quote for my friends ig

@hasty peak whisspur status somewhat relevant innit

but no not that word.

[glacial robin]

He he ha ha

[split pawn]

replace that word with bad

[glacial robin]

Which word

[hasty peak]

what

[split pawn]

abandon their friends...

[hasty peak]

what

[split pawn]

abandon - you friends - me

[hasty peak]

[split pawn]

(jk)

Jus wanted to say hi

hi linalg.py

[spark heron]

Tips for Alg 1 EA/CBE?

[glacial robin]

Procrastinate and do homework the day before. Study for test on test day and don't pay attention in class.

[spark heron]

:((

😭

[neat lintel]

read the book

[split pawn]

i had

pinged

you

[neat lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/hi-aya-shameimaru-fumo-touhou-gif-23577311

[solar hawk]

Linear algebra? Where

[split pawn]

Huh?

[solar hawk]

Linalg

[jagged forge]

my favorite type of algae

[split pawn]

Wdym where

[solar hawk]

There

[split pawn]

[neat lintel]

I forgor

[solar hawk]

In my soul

[neat lintel]

What's the best supplement for complex sugars?

[split pawn]

complex sugar

[solar hawk]

If I draw on my arm with a sharpie will it come off

[split pawn]

Guess what comes into my mind with complex sugars?

[split pawn]

Okay

[split pawn]

@neat lintel are we making raffinose today

[neat lintel]

I'm making muscle today

[split pawn]

so you need actin and myosin

@neat lintel

[spark heron]

...?

[split pawn]

Inverted sugar...

Glucose is optically active

[neat lintel]

READ THE BOOK

[spark heron]

...????

???
/

WHAT BOOKOOK

[neat lintel]

YOUR ALGEBRA 1 BOOK

[spark heron]

dont have one

[neat lintel]

GET ONE

[spark heron]

but like...which one

give me a link

[neat lintel]

https://math.libretexts.org/Bookshelves

It's so weird how every big youtuber knows each other

[mint patio]

My exam can’t come fast enough

Blegh

[ocean harbor]

does anyone else hated middle school and high school

[valid dawn]

No

They were so fun

[ocean harbor]

cappin

[neat lintel]

Everyone

If anyone says they liked middle/high school they meant they like hanging out with friends

[ocean harbor]

relatable

[latent edge]

What is that

I don't understand hexagons

[split pawn]

Raffinose

How did you assume he didnt

Bruh

There's nothing as molectinose

[solar hawk]

cute kitties

hi muhammad

[latent edge]

I know I was being sarcastic

[split pawn]

Answer what

[split pawn]

I hate remembering even the names of disaccharides forget oligosaccharides

I don't know what's in your head

[split pawn]

Hi

[latent edge]

Orgo is based

Biochem is based

Gen chem is ass

[valid dawn]

Can anyone help me with college algebra?

[split pawn]

Haha

[valid dawn]

I just need get these 7 problems correct so I can use them as examples to study

So far I haven’t cause this damn thing won’t tell me what I got right or wrong

I can’t post images rip

Who is your friend

I need the help sir 😑😔😔

[quasi jetty]

To ask for mathematics help on this server, please open your own help channel or help thread. See #❓how-to-get-help for instructions.

[split pawn]

My name ws just above and he's asking who I am

Lol

[tender cobalt]

yo

[solar hawk]

Hola

[tender cobalt]

i just think having vc access would be dope cuz like sometimes it's easier to communicate verbally rather than over text

[solar hawk]

Ye

Then say that maybe to

Eric

[split pawn]

DM Modmail

[tender cobalt]

cuz like i have adhd so my thoughts can move faster than my ability to communicate them over writing or text

[split pawn]

@polar panther

[tender cobalt]

and the role i'm asking for is the infinity symbol right?

[solar hawk]

Oh hey me too

[split pawn]

@hasty peak dami ping moment

[tender cobalt]

which unlocks vcs

[solar hawk]

I find it easier under text

[tender cobalt]

for me it depends

[solar hawk]

Unlocks Minecraft server + one vc

That goes with it

[tender cobalt]

what's the name of the vc?

[solar hawk]

Obsidian pillar VC

The catagory is obsidian pillar

[tender cobalt]

oh so there isnt even a vc for talking abt math or stuff? or can you use it for whatever?

[solar hawk]

For whatever

[split pawn]

I use it for Desmos

I'm mostly active there

[solar hawk]

Ig it was for Minecraft originally but no one uses it for that

[split pawn]

Well . Or was.

[solar hawk]

Me and feather spent like 3 hours one time and I was backseat coding

[tender cobalt]

alr imma boogie down to modmail dms ill be back when im done writing my request for the role 🙏

[split pawn]

Nami uses it to stream his PC gaming sessions

[solar hawk]

Ok

[tender cobalt]

omg how does it work

i just sent 2 messages to test and it just reacted to them 😭

do i just type my message i want staff to see?

[solar hawk]

Idk 😭

[split pawn]

If it got the ✉️ reaction it gets sent to them

Yah.

[solar hawk]

Lmao tey might get mad at the Test ones 😭

Na they nice tho

[tender cobalt]

alr im back

i spat my request

[solar hawk]

Ok

I am getting grilled in math discussy 😭

Ima fail Lin alg

[tender cobalt]

lol imma go see that

[little vine]

Don't panic

[jagged forge]

https://tenor.com/view/dont-panic-hitchhikers-guide-to-the-galaxy-stay-calm-gif-12660494

[solar hawk]

I can’t

No

I’m addicted obviously

Lmao

I ain’t gettin off

[split pawn]

@\Moderators give amukh perma-studying

[solar hawk]

Not yet

I’m learning about stuff

In math discussy

[split pawn]

Yea atleast you'll stay away from discussies.

You can learn about it in topic channels too

You really have a Discord addiction problem

[solar hawk]

Ye but then what am j gotta do

Ima go inside

Insane

[split pawn]

I use Discord just because I don't go anywhere irl

[solar hawk]

Genuinely insane

No. I’m not leaving LOL

[split pawn]

Once I start going somewhere, like medschool or engg school I'm not coming here lol

Its just I cant stand not being surrounded by people

[tender cobalt]

cant lose that very active 🙏

[solar hawk]

Nah

If I stop being active I get a diff role

Called emiritus

[split pawn]

I kinda care for my Very Active but I just removed the colour so I get adjusted to the normal life

[solar hawk]

I keep the perks and get very active way faster

[split pawn]

Btw.

#serious-discussion message

[solar hawk]

Ya I saw

[ocean harbor]

lmao

[split pawn]

Hi

A k i r a

[ocean harbor]

hi

[split pawn]

How've you been

[tender cobalt]

ola

[ocean harbor]

just busy with schoolwork since I'm graduating this year hbu?

[split pawn]

You're graduating this year!

Yayay!

Me, just trying to get off Discord once again

[ocean harbor]

it's stressful tho lmao

I'm not ready for it tbh

[ocean harbor]

ooh interesting

[split pawn]

Mhm...

What subject do you like - .

[ocean harbor]

it's not math

[split pawn]

Yeah

Yay!

What is it

[ocean harbor]

music

it's not stressful but always fun right

[split pawn]

Oh I see.

I thought it was physics tho...

On a second thought, physics is jus applied maths

[ocean harbor]

hell nah

physics is harder than math isn't it?

[split pawn]

I dont think so

You can understand better in physics

Since you're dealing with something that actually exists

And not just is in your head

Except for...

[ocean harbor]

isn't physics for engineering tho?

[split pawn]

most of physics

haha

[split pawn]

Not necessarily.

Physics not for CSE

lol

[ocean harbor]

I'm kinda not interested mastering physics lmao

[split pawn]

Physics not for Civil Engg.

I am.. haha

[ocean harbor]

you what

[split pawn]

I am.

[ocean harbor]

oh gl then

I gts now

[split pawn]

Haha

Maybe i wont

Who knows

Well

Byee

You should.

I just woke up

[ocean harbor]

,ti

[fathom swallow]

The current time for kensukeken is 11:43 PM (EDT) on Fri, 06/10/2023.

[ocean harbor]

Thanksgiving in 2 days!

[fathom swallow]

whisspur

[ocean harbor]

latex fail

$y=9:00pm$, Muhammad is asleep
$Z=7:00am$, Muhammad is awake
{Loop 24 hours;}

[fathom swallow]

Akira 🍉

[ocean harbor]

[hasty peak]

gm

[solar hawk]

@sonic field

let us continue with the

project

[sonic field]

👀

@hasty peak plz help me.

also

tell shuri to leave you alone 🤣

[solar hawk]

yuo have forgotten?

have you?

you have havnt you.

I TOLD YOU.

WE WERE GONNA DO IT

get cali

[sonic field]

you know i have issues with memory 🤣 🤣

[mental stratus]

what project

[sonic field]

don't ask..................

[solar hawk]

wait

[hasty peak]

what?

[mental stratus]

but i must

[sonic field]

amukh attacking me

[solar hawk]

smthn about

beavers..

[sonic field]

I need protection

[solar hawk]

now yoyou remember???

[mental stratus]

we all need protecton

[solar hawk]

#math-discussion message

[sonic field]

from amukh? 🤣 🤣

[solar hawk]

GET UR COSTUMES ON

[hasty peak]

[solar hawk]

🦫 🦫 🦫 🦫 🦫

ok

[tender cobalt]

meow

[solar hawk]

one for me, cali, jay, pika, and enzi

🦫 eclipse

nvm they are holding it down

we gotta wait until they make a move

lets wait till tomorrow ok guys

plus we dont have cali

[sonic field]

[tender cobalt]

i love penguins

[mental stratus]

Emperor penguin

[solar hawk]

did you just call us penguins

[tender cobalt]

🐧

[neat lintel]

Who's subscribed to "The Math Sorcerer"

Are their videos intentionally cringe?

[little vine]

Me

[little vine]

I think they're sincere

I think amukh would like him

[echo tundra]

I recently unsubbed from him. The main issue I see is that whatever he says is usually known so like he isn't saying something very new.

Plus most of the problems he solves are on the easier side, I have never seen him solve any interesting questions

[tender cobalt]

i like to watch professor dave explains

he goes quicker than khan academy (i still love khan academy) and gets straight to the point and keeps it simple still

[little vine]

Bright side of mathematics is my favorite math channel

[echo tundra]

Btw what is that pfp Cali?

Is that an SCP entity

[little vine]

It's my spooptober pic

[echo tundra]

Ohh, cool

[little vine]

Um

I think it's from Russian sleep experiment

That creepy pasta

[jagged forge]

everyone assumes it’s an scp lol

[little vine]

I don't know what scp is

[deep mango]

Scp is kinda like a big fanfiction project

[echo tundra]

Didn't knew it was a creepy pasta

[deep mango]

About the "scp foundation" which contains anomalous beings and stuff

It's a very large collaborative project with thousands of articles and stories

Some are really good, a lot are garbage

[little vine]

Kinda like creepypasta then

[deep mango]

Yes exactly

[split pawn]

hi ryc

[deep mango]

Hello

[echo tundra]

Yesterday I saw a video about SCP 682 and how powerful it is by comparing it to other SCPs and how it somehow transcends to the multi-multi verse of stuff

[split pawn]

Oh I agree with the latter

[deep mango]

Im in bed to sleep soon

[deep mango]

So true

Is 682 the lizard dude

[echo tundra]

It's kinda weird cause you already need to know about SCPs to understand how powerful that SCP is lol

[deep mango]

That ones so silly

[echo tundra]

Lmao yes

[split pawn]

Infographics Show has good SCP vids tho

[deep mango]

My favorite SCP thing is the antimemetics stories

[split pawn]

https://the-scp.foundation/

[echo tundra]

Lizard fella cannot be killed by any means but HCl too powerful

[split pawn]

That image just turned down all the excitement

What even is that filler image doing

[echo tundra]

What are those?

[split pawn]

600x315 seriously

[deep mango]

So a memetic being is one that spreads through ideas/thoughts

An antimeme is an scp which spreads by NOT being thought of

[echo tundra]

WHAT?

[deep mango]

So for example, something that constantly removes memories from your head (feeding on them)

[echo tundra]

That sounds like weeping angles but instead of eye contact, you maintain thought contact or something?

[deep mango]

Or attacks you when you try to become aware of it

[echo tundra]

Ohhh

[deep mango]

It's sort of a broad idea

Like

It's not super well defined