#serious-discussion

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neat lintel
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I am learning game theory and the main guy in the field only died 8 years ago

velvet dagger
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You just kinda waltz into it oftentimes

latent glacier
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Oh gosh um so for now im just doing functions but for next year im doing mathematical data management, Victors and calculus, Advanced functions, statistics.

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And i forgot there was another math course

sand cloud
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Life is a series of natural and spontaneous changes. Don't resist them - that only creates sorrow. Let reality be reality. Let things flow naturally forward in whatever way they like.

storm sage
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Remember that for every thing you say as a stupid joke, there's someone out there that believes it 100% seriously

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And judging from server size, they're probably on this server

weary sable
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for every joke there’s a little truth in it

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if i was alive 100 years ago i’d probably lobotomize myself

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now? i don’t think so lmao

jagged forge
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P(someone believes it 100% seriously) -> 1 as N -> infty

wicked holly
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can u abbreviate domain to dx and range to ry

jagged forge
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dx is already used in calculus

wicked holly
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I mean Dx

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idk if that’s different

jagged forge
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just use Domain(f) or something

weary sable
wicked holly
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are you good at math? @jagged forge

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i’m not gonna ask u for help but

jagged forge
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depends on what "good" means

wicked holly
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i just am so stressed for this pre calc exam

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lmao i’m trying to cram, it’s friday morning

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i just don’t know if it’s even doable at this point

jagged forge
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well i definitely can't help you seeing as i have rehearsals and concerts for the next 6 days opencry

wicked holly
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i’m not asking for help i’m just asking if u think i will be able to get a good grade if i study hard enough

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and get enough help

jagged forge
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depends, if some concepts aren't sticking it might be too late

wicked holly
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i understand a lot of basics for stuff

jagged forge
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but if it's just a matter of practice, you might be able to get enough stuff crammed in time for the exam

wicked holly
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what kinda math are you taking

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math is just so frustrating for me lol

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i feel like i always take notes and then i don’t understand it

jagged forge
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i am not in school anymore but recently i havee been studying topology and probability theory

wicked holly
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even after looking at notes

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damn that’s pretty far then right

jagged forge
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notes are good, but practice is essential to internalize things

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yeah i mean it's upper undergraduate level stuff

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but there are many people on this server who know much more than me

wicked holly
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i have no idea how i’m gonna be able to take calc 1 next semester

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i took pre calc in high school and it was so much easier than this

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u have any advice for studying?

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since you’ve studied a lot i’m assuming

jagged forge
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well, cramming works if the material isn't too difficult and just requires stubbornness, but once you start doing hard stuff it might not work so well

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so my advice would be try to follow a more regular schedule for studying this stuff

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tbh i'm not really a model student, i'm a college dropout opencry

wicked holly
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oh damn i assumed u graduated

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i feel like i’m going down that path lmao, if i can’t even do pre calc

jagged forge
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well, there's always difficulty spikes

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most people who are good at math had to deal with it at some point

sonic field
wicked holly
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what?

sonic field
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talkin bout @jagged forge

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hehe

wicked holly
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i’m sure he’s pretty good at math lnao

jagged forge
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i had a great mentor early on who gave me solid fundamentals

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so despite only having his mentorship during high school geometry, i have been able to study math beyond that with decent success

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that said, solid fundamentals without diligent practice only gets you so far

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which is why i have hardly progressed for awhile lol

white spindle
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got you another equation... assume a phase of one second at every point for (1F=2F, 2F=3F, 3F=4F)-PHASE-MU where F is discernible bands of frequency, SETQ progresses for 7 Set, has AND at VU-P1-T,VU-P1-B,VU-P2-T,VU-P2-B at set 7 exactly which controls superset A1 to B2, B2 to A2, A2 to B1, B2 to A1 has 2 set and 2 set, at each 4F set pole writes to set antipole at 1F... this takes .985 percent of the bekenstein bound so it is optional to add ETH which makes the particle path write at antipole randomly at 1F and 2F randomly with 2 ETH it is enough so it is technically possible in bound

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what this is a very small manifold so a valid feynman diagram, but maybe not likely diagram in reality!

white spindle
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----<>----_<>(<----)+(>----) to 3 terms

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i have it at manual vu so actually my user skill prevents me from solving it beyond collision, it is not stochastic tho, u need ETH which makes it percents of separate diagram

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huh the first term OVERRIDES in the ---- term, then you have another >---____

white spindle
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hey guys i have you another equation (F1=F1,U)=(F1=F2,F2=F3,U)=(1-J-(-1)-MU-0-5PHS-MU-1-U-MU-J-2-U)=(MUF3,ETH,U-MUF4)=(1,2-1,2-F1,2,3,4-3,3-ETH,U-MUF4)=(MUF4,U) ... this is for the minecraft beet... here F equals MU=F(x)=U(-0)=J=F(x2)=i, what this yields is i have just ONE beet, i cannot grow the beet, i have many beet, they tend to go into F4, the grown state because the starting state is leading to the end state when it goes into the start of the equals cascade, this means in the game when i am given one beet in one farmland i have to duplicate the beet in stages to be able to grow multiple stages of the beet to have ultimately yielded the beet having been grown! as well because eth is based around correct user input i have two types of beet which can be created, an easy growing 2-1,2-2 beet and the other beets which technically could take forever to grow, though they really take a short time...

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as well a grown beet cannot yield a new beet's start of grow without the use of the -1 which causes the ability to reset

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huh technically you can grow with just one beet, what i meant is it takes at least an action or route to have grown it

static loom
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is this ai assisted shitposting

white spindle
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naw this is recreational solutions to special relativity

static loom
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how do you account for relativistic compound interest rates on the blockchain

white spindle
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blockchain as a crypto is mainly managed by holding corporations which control the real world value of the crypto, this natural effect of people who already have large amounts of bitcoin and are leveraging the market for bitcoins value e.g. the natural effect of investors on bitcoin(s) cause the value to be raised due to speculation, and as well innovation drives the price down, as far as the iterative effect of compounding loan interest this is offset by BTC whales/sharks who buy large amounts of BTC and the hidden value of blockchain as well to have been a direct useful solution by empowering creation with the hidden processes of BTC, there also are hidden schemes like download RAM and download CPU which blockchain supports hence why most miners are labeled malware, on this mainly there is that firstoff the value of BTC is given primarially by non roman audiences using it for its canon CPU power use...

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that is to say, you are talking the whole whahooza lost to romanji audiences of the direct CPU download botnet capacity of bitcoin to empower creation/gaming, but like i said shell and holding corporations management of BTC and other crypto are what drive its value combined with high speculative demand and a real world CPU power of bitcoin which is lost on romanji audiences because BTC is a gold to the romanji not like a game of resources how it is to pinyin audiences

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hey uh cause a Satoshi is not a lot to a BTC whale everybody kind of already is in on the bitcoin scheme cause of the true cost of things

white spindle
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1,(Q4.5-6-f((-40)-(-20))(+35)-MU-2,(5PHS-MUA(-1)-1-JU(-1)MUB&C(-1))2,U(MUA.85)-U(+42)-JU(-1)MUDU(-1)3,J(MUB)-J(-MUC)-U(MUB)-U(-MUC)-U(-1)4,U(-1)JEU-1-MUE-2-U-IMPULSE5,U(-1)J(MUF)U(MUG)MUF-20PHS-MUG-U(-1)6,1,Q3.5-f(-52,-20)-U(21)-MUL-5PHS(MUM,MUO)-2,(0-JU(-1)MUM-U(-1)-JU(-1)-MUO-U(-1)-1-U)5PHS(MUP)-JU(-1)-MUP-U2,U(MUL)-F(-2)-MUR-U(-1)-JW-1,2,3,4,5-(.333PHS+.333)1-.333PHS-MUS-2-U-MUT-F7,4,2,4,7-NORMAL-U(MUW)31-2-3-4,PHS1.332-.333-Q(1-7,2-4,3-3,4-4,5-7)-MUH,MUI,MUJ,MUK-U(-1)-J-F(1,2,3,4,5)-5-5AND-MUU-(0-J-MU-U-1-U-J-1.332PHS-MUV-U(-1)-MUW this is a solution to that shark currency, a bitcoin

neat lintel
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dude what

white spindle
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this is a recreational solution to special relativity

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there is a threshold how many times you will have to repeat growing it for satisfying a bitcoin which changes according to a very slow never ending techno riser

solid snow
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is this just spam at this point

white spindle
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huh, actually the number of neccesary tries is never above 20, actually what you are doing is getting lucky with getting the correct length specific times to get payout

winter stump
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what

storm sage
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Yeah.. I muted them for a day

jovial grail
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holy some young sheldon stuff

raven plaza
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Young sheldon has logic

jovial grail
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im convinced that this is a chatgpt copy paste

hoary egret
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It sure feels like it

little vine
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Love me some yung Sheldon

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"will you pass the sodium chloride mother?"

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Hilarious

hoary egret
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[laugh track]

neat lintel
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Young Sheldon doesn't have a laugh track, luckily.

blissful verge
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BOT WYA

teal lion
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it’s rōmaji, there’s no n

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if you’re going to transliterate, at least write the right word

teal lion
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Because it’s Roman characters

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and so because they speak English

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they just think “Roman”

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sigh

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I guess

storm sage
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ngl I didn't know what romaji and romaja meant until now

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I knew what hanja meant KEK

teal kiln
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Are in calculus we still learn Limit? confused about why limit is placed at precalculus

vivid halo
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usually limits are not covered in standard precalc material

wild lantern
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Not all precalc classes do limits and limits are foundational for basically all of calc

teal kiln
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I has Interested to learn calculus 1 while seat at 10th grade now I'm 11th grade

vivid halo
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I guess some precalc courses might cover limits at the very end of the course but then this is usually covered again at the beginning of a calc course

teal kiln
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waiting to learn about derivative or integral

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12 th grade

storm sage
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Many precalculus courses cover limits, but many don't. Precalculus is very random in the US.

neat lintel
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i'm at my limit

storm sage
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I'm at my threshhhhhooooold

cloud wraith
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Guys how to get good at chemistry (fast)

mental stratus
languid spear
neat lintel
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If you ignore them, then again it depends. You can do most organic and a little inorganic quickly. For physical chem, you'll require practice

cloud wraith
cloud wraith
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But idk

neat lintel
sacred crane
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Subject assignment: "Linear programming"
You must explain in more detail the meaning of functions of the type f(x,y)=ax+by+c, including the concept of level line. Show through example(s) how to optimize f(x,y) taking into account bi and positive conditions. Can anyone help?

river moon
cloud wraith
mint patio
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Yo can these fucking professors grade my shit faster

zealous garden
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They covered it in mine

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And I always shit on the education I got

vivid halo
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Again it depends on schools but most places do not teach limits in precalc

zealous garden
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We went over intuitive limits, conics, trig and hyperbolic trig

vivid halo
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Wtf

zealous garden
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Then in AP Calc we did epsilon delta limits, though I don't think we had any proof problems

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He showed us some proofs

vivid halo
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Hyperbolic trig is also pretty unusual for precalc

zealous garden
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But didn't make us do it

zealous garden
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Like, I remember a "this is a thing that exists"

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But it wasn't on tests and I slept through class

vivid halo
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I guess it also depends on how long the course is

zealous garden
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So I can't tell you how much they actually said about it

vivid halo
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If this is a year long course then I can see covering stuff like that

zealous garden
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Nah, single semester

vivid halo
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But if it’s just a semester or a quarter definitely not

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Ahh

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Nuts

zealous garden
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Maybe I'll talk less shit about my school now

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Still gonna talk shit, they don't allocate funds responsibly

neat lintel
vivid halo
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insane

cloud wraith
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damn

zealous garden
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What the ruck

solar hawk
neat lintel
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GUYS!

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I solved all of the problems on my test correctly!

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But i got a B because i put the wrong number in the calculator.

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I might have to drop the class now Sadge

jagged forge
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that’s better than the time i put F instead of E for an entire test at a math competition

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and not a single answer was F opencry

neat lintel
glossy spade
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how do you study bro

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i literally cannot physically put myself through it

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especially math…. 🙁

solar hawk
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i dont study python

neat lintel
solar hawk
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i hate it with a burning passion

rapid briar
solar hawk
pulsar pagoda
solar hawk
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Do not defend python

solar hawk
pulsar pagoda
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if i had a choice to go back in time

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i would stop guido from making python

rapid briar
zealous garden
pulsar pagoda
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i prefer a statically typed compiled language ps

solar hawk
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hey uh

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can help me with something ;-;

pulsar pagoda
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sure

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ask

solar hawk
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this is the problem

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its not the code

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i just dont get it

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the solution, i mean

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what even is this

pulsar pagoda
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sec im thinking

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idk why they use modulo arithmetic for that

fringe summit
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Don’t cross post it amukh smh

solar hawk
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ik i delete that one

solar hawk
solar hawk
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they want a === b mod M

pulsar pagoda
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is modulo in this context the same as in programming languages?

solar hawk
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ye

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im supposed to write the solution in cpp

pulsar pagoda
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wtf

solar hawk
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ikr im so confuse

pulsar pagoda
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so shouldnt b_k be b_n

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instead?

solar hawk
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idk

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what is a?

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im confused on what a is

storm sage
solar hawk
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and whats b

storm sage
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b_k is the remainder when you divide a_k by M

solar hawk
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i see

pulsar pagoda
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yes

storm sage
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the real interesting part is trying to figure out what a_k is

solar hawk
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oh im unfamiliar with that notation

storm sage
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it's a fun problem

pulsar pagoda
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so k = n?

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for b

storm sage
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where are you seeing an n

solar hawk
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N

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they mean N, since we dont see a k

pulsar pagoda
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yeah

solar hawk
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yes i believe they meant N

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look at the output

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example

storm sage
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I'm guessing there's a typo and it's meant to say "for each k = 1, ..., N"

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instead of "for each i = 1, ..., N"

pulsar pagoda
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no

solar hawk
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so what does

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size k permutations...() mean

pulsar pagoda
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because a_n is different from b_k

storm sage
solar hawk
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yes

pulsar pagoda
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its u take k times b

solar hawk
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i usually draw them as a matrix or a function

storm sage
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size k means it's a permutation of {1,...,k}

pulsar pagoda
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basically

solar hawk
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permutations are linear maps right?

storm sage
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meaning it's an element of S_k

storm sage
fringe summit
solar hawk
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why

storm sage
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that's not how I would describe them but you can represent permutations as permutation matrices

pulsar pagoda
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so !S/!K

solar hawk
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my abs alg book draws them like matrices

pulsar pagoda
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bro

storm sage
fringe summit
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They’re the wrong type of thing to be linear

pulsar pagoda
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just study

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discrete math

solar hawk
storm sage
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uh

solar hawk
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if you can do that it is linear

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?

pulsar pagoda
storm sage
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there's two different notions here

vast surge
solar hawk
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im just saying

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you can

fringe summit
storm sage
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one is that you can write permutations in the notation
[\begin{pmatrix}
1&2&3&4&5\
3&2&4&1&5\end{pmatrix}]

fathom swallowBOT
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propERICly_embedded

storm sage
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this is not a matrix

solar hawk
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{1,...,n} -> {n,...,1} is what i usually think of as a permutation

storm sage
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it's just a way of writing down a permutation

pulsar pagoda
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thats a matrix of permutations

solar hawk
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which is a function

pulsar pagoda
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which is different than a permutation

solar hawk
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and the matrix of the function

storm sage
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amukh stop

solar hawk
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ok fine

storm sage
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there is not even a vector space here

pulsar pagoda
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u do those whith adjacency

peak tide
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sure, but there's a 5x5 matrix of 1's and 0's that represents that permutation

solar hawk
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i just realized something here

storm sage
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Yes permutation matrices are also a thing

solar hawk
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that they arent matrices 💀

fringe summit
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Not everything is linear

storm sage
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Idt that's what amukh was talking about though

solar hawk
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matrices are linear maps under matrix operations and permutations dont use them 💀 nvm

pulsar pagoda
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u need to study fucking discrete math

solar hawk
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forget i said it

solar hawk
storm sage
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[\begin{pmatrix}1&0&0&0\0&0&1&0\0&0&0&1\0&1&0&0\end{pmatrix}]

pulsar pagoda
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im gonna drag ur ass to discrete math

solar hawk
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ware am i gonna do that

fathom swallowBOT
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propERICly_embedded

storm sage
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permutation matrices look like this

pulsar pagoda
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and make u go through a whole book

solar hawk
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i have a book on number theory and a book on combo

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and a book on proofs

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that should be sufficient

fringe summit
solar hawk
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i am

peak tide
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determinant of the permutation matrix is the chad way to define the sign of a permutation

pulsar pagoda
solar hawk
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i have the basics

atomic cypress
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how else do you define sign

solar hawk
atomic cypress
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"count how many interchanges"?

solar hawk
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how do i calculate a tho

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i hate combo problems like this

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they are impossible

pulsar pagoda
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i told ui

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its literally b!/k!

fringe summit
pulsar pagoda
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lol

peak tide
solar hawk
little vine
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Can I ask something I should perhaps know

solar hawk
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whats ! mean before a symbol

pulsar pagoda
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factorial

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OMFG

solar hawk
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ok

little vine
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Well I will anyway

solar hawk
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y before?

little vine
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Nevermind I figured it out

pulsar pagoda
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im probably typing them wrong

pulsar pagoda
solar hawk
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is there a reason for this

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idk how you

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got to that conclusion..

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😭

storm sage
pulsar pagoda
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cause their telling u at the beggining

storm sage
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😔

pulsar pagoda
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the number of size k permutation

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which means give B elements take K

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in which the order matters

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so permutations

peak tide
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oops thought you were referring to the earlier comment

fringe summit
pulsar pagoda
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yeah

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thx

fringe summit
pulsar pagoda
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remember that in spanish we use both exclamation and interrogation symbols

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in expressions

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at least in the language

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so its sort of confuses me

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hahaha

fringe summit
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LA is a good way to think about things even when things aren’t linear per se, like saturation as a Riesz rep style condition

storm sage
# solar hawk

by size k permutation they just mean a permutation of {1, 2, ..., k}

sick prism
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Can one of you help a brother out in the multivariable calculus chat, please?

peak tide
storm sage
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i.e. a bijective function from {1, 2, ..., k} to {1, 2, ..., k}

quasi jettyBOT
solar hawk
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yeah i got that part

solar hawk
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that much was covered in the abs alg book

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not the rest

storm sage
fringe summit
storm sage
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so for every i, the permutation sends i to a different numbers

fringe summit
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F1 vector spaces as sets

storm sage
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so for example the permutation
[\begin{pmatrix}
1&2&3&4&5\
1&3&2&5&4\end{pmatrix}]
would not fit the criterion, but
[\begin{pmatrix}
1&2&3&4&5\
2&3&1&5&4\end{pmatrix}]
would

fathom swallowBOT
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propERICly_embedded

pulsar pagoda
sick prism
storm sage
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a_k is the number of such permutations

solar hawk
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oh

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yeah whats b

pulsar pagoda
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the RHS

solar hawk
pulsar pagoda
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of what u provided

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sorry

solar hawk
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huh

pulsar pagoda
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LHS

storm sage
solar hawk
storm sage
pulsar pagoda
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YES

storm sage
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but the point is to try to figure out a nice way to calculate it

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that's the coding exercise

pulsar pagoda
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yeah

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thats why they bound N and M

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to give u a hint

peak tide
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@solar hawk you seem to have officially ended your axler obsession

fringe summit
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Real

pulsar pagoda
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just want to say

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thank you guys

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u made me realize i wasnt as pepeg as i though

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and i can actually go through formal books by myself

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with some help

storm sage
peak tide
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we never doubted you dandida

pulsar pagoda
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this is a pepeg

storm sage
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oh LOL

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proud of you

pulsar pagoda
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just u wait

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ill get my second paper published in EE published

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even though im a SE major

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XD

fringe summit
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Oh yeah Eric did you see saturation as a “k-compactness” thing of definable sets?

pulsar pagoda
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im gonna put

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i wanna say thanks to mom and eric tao

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xD

solar hawk
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;-;

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my program isnt ending

pulsar pagoda
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are u using recursion?

solar hawk
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nvm

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nvm i was being dumb asf

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i put the input in the

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./montmort 10 100

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instead of

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./montmort
10 100

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LMAO

pulsar pagoda
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are u passing the arguments through argv of the main

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xD

solar hawk
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olk it dosnt work 😭

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i gibe up

pulsar pagoda
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so

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are u using recursion?

peak tide
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parse those args

solar hawk
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wait wait

solar hawk
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it just says the wrong answe

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wait.

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i forgor to mod

pulsar pagoda
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%

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that shit

storm sage
storm sage
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I shall now learn what a space of types is eeveeKawaii

fringe summit
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Ye

storm sage
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this isn't the same thing as a type in type theory right?

fringe summit
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It’s not quite, but

pulsar pagoda
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what is type theory?

fringe summit
storm sage
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alright cool

solar hawk
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yeah it doesnt work

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this is too hard 😭

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idk what i did wrong

storm sage
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lol this reminds me of the phd student who is mentoring me complaining about homotopy type theory

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he was like, either two things should be equal or not equal, forget about this homotopy stuff

fringe summit
solar hawk
fringe summit
pulsar pagoda
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why are u dividing?

solar hawk
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maybe i should longs?

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cuz u said to

pulsar pagoda
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brp

storm sage
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yeah that makes sense that it's not exactly compactness, but the finite intersection property stuff is analogous

pulsar pagoda
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do u even know what the modulo is?

pulsar pagoda
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kittie

split pawn
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big pallas knows how to sit on paws. Kitten doesn'

solar hawk
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whats that supposed to mean

pulsar pagoda
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its the residue of the division

solar hawk
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yes im aware

storm sage
pulsar pagoda
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so u want a residue of 0

fringe summit
storm sage
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okay I haven't learned about stone spaces yet

split pawn
storm sage
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but I will!

solar hawk
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a_k = n!/k!, rigth?

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thats what you said

fringe summit
solar hawk
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so

pulsar pagoda
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a!

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instead of n

fringe summit
solar hawk
pulsar pagoda
fringe summit
solar hawk
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a_k = a!..?

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type error

pulsar pagoda
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a is the one on top

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and for b

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it would be b!/k!

storm sage
# fringe summit Ok yeah fair

someone gave a talk here, and someone in the audience asked the speaker a definitional question (I forget what it was), then the speaker said something, and the corner of logic students just starts BURSTING into uncontrollable laughter, and then the one logic prof turns to the students and is like "and a group is a category with one object where each morphism is an isomorphism"

fringe summit
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Genuine compactness means we have a ultrafilter which satisfies all your predicates, but saturation says at least one point is gonna look like a principal ideal

solar hawk
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bro i am so confused

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it wants me to interate through n

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and print

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a_n mod M

pulsar pagoda
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no

solar hawk
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clear

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yes

storm sage
#

and the speaker was so confused, like did I say something funny

fringe summit
storm sage
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LOL

fringe summit
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It’s not quite principal but

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It’s similar

pulsar pagoda
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what you have to compare is the length of ur resulting string btw

solar hawk
#

so whats a_n for some n if not n!/i!

pulsar pagoda
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n would be ur i

fringe summit
# storm sage this is neat

Consider the Boolean algebra of predicates w/ parameters or wtv, and replace it w/ the sets which satisfy it

storm sage
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right

fringe summit
#

Now it looks a lot more principal ideal-y, since if {a} is in there…

pulsar pagoda
fringe summit
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So saturation asks for every k-generated ideal to be contained in a principal one? Maybe?

solar hawk
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i did

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i didnt get most of it

fringe summit
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Don’t quote me on that, this is a very informal idea

solar hawk
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my eye caught n!/k!

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k is my i

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why aint it work

pulsar pagoda
#

yes

fringe summit
pulsar pagoda
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and N would be ur b

solar hawk
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im not using a b in my program?

fringe summit
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Probably some delooping thing?

solar hawk
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right

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so

fringe summit
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Or (x=x) as a group?

pulsar pagoda
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remember what ur comparing is the length of the strings

solar hawk
#

wdym

storm sage
fringe summit
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Or rather, an infty group

storm sage
#

it was some basic type theory concept tho

loud ruin
#

Hi, does anyone in here offer one on one math tutoring?

fringe summit
#

L

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Type theory is basically logic stuff so

pulsar pagoda
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a permutation is a string

solar hawk
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ok

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i get that

fringe summit
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Possibly clowning him for saying something crazy basic, or from a category view (which is unnecessary)

pulsar pagoda
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so take the set {a,b,c,d} if u want all perm of 1 for example

solar hawk
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how many strings can i make such that the number in the nth spot isnt n

pulsar pagoda
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that would be 4

storm sage
solar hawk
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i can make n! permutations

storm sage
#

but one of the guys was trying to explain and he was like "sorry it's just funny because from a logic point of view it's unnatural"

pulsar pagoda
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how many different strings can u make that take K elements from a set of N elements

peak tide
# solar hawk

i'm not sure what issue you're seeing, but i'm guessing probably you want to round instead of floor here

solar hawk
#

they are integers

peak tide
storm sage
pulsar pagoda
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i dont get why hes dividing

solar hawk
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because

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idk where anymore

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somehwre i saw..

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a_k = n!/k!

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maybe k!/n!

peak tide
storm sage
# solar hawk

I'm confused, you literally have the formula for a_k right here

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it's [n!\sum_{k=0}^n\frac{(-1)^k}{k!}]

fathom swallowBOT
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propERICly_embedded

pulsar pagoda
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ohh

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i get what is happening

solar hawk
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why is it so much bigger than the thing dandida was saying tho

pulsar pagoda
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ur mutating ur data structure

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did u read what push_back does?

solar hawk
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wdym

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ik what pushback does

pulsar pagoda
storm sage
#

oh I will say though that the notation of the problem is different than the solution you posted, so it should be
[k!\sum_{i=0}^k \frac{(-1)^i}{i!}]

solar hawk
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im literally casting to static int before the push

fathom swallowBOT
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propERICly_embedded

solar hawk
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there is no funny business

solar hawk
storm sage
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as given in the problem

solar hawk
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whats i

storm sage
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(k = 1,2,...,N)

storm sage
pulsar pagoda
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the number of elements you take

solar hawk
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😭

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i hate combinatroics

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ok i will just

storm sage
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combinatorics is fun

solar hawk
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read my combo book

pulsar pagoda
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k would represent the size

storm sage
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it's just that no one is explaining it to you

solar hawk
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and then come back tot his.

storm sage
solar hawk
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what level of combo is this

pulsar pagoda
storm sage
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this is introductory

solar hawk
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so like first chapter, second chapter intro?

storm sage
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it's one of the first applications of the inclusion-exclusion principle that you learn

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(I know because I just learned it in my class KEK)

pulsar pagoda
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depends on the book

solar hawk
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shaums outline xd

pulsar pagoda
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chapter 5

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and 6

solar hawk
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in that book?

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😭 what the fak

pulsar pagoda
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at least thats what my spanish version

peak tide
#

that schaum sure wrote a lot of books

pulsar pagoda
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has it

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its not schaum

solar hawk
#

oh

pulsar pagoda
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its lipschitz

peak tide
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like some kind of junior serge lang

pulsar pagoda
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or something

solar hawk
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he has AA too

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and set theory..

pulsar pagoda
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schaum is my go to for discrete mathematics

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when i want to fuck with people i look for other books

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like discrete mathematical structures

solar hawk
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alright whatever

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ill read my combo book

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cya

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i gotta sleep XD

storm sage
fringe summit
storm sage
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I asked our logic groupchat

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Until further notice in this section we assume that T is a complete theory.

fringe summit
#

real

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mfw group isn’t complete

fringe summit
storm sage
pulsar pagoda
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so whats the sequence of topics

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linear algebra, abstract algebra

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galois

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?

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like that

storm sage
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yes

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that is one sequence of topics you could learn

fringe summit
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Idk I’ve not done any Galois

pulsar pagoda
#

is galois the gigachad they say he is?

fringe summit
#

But I could just as easily see AA -> commalg & AG

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Yes

storm sage
desert rapids
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Is there an analytical solution for this such that doesn't diverge? It can be assumed that $a_0$, $Z$ are constants. $$\int_0^\infty \left[ \frac{1}{r} \left( 2 - \frac{Z r}{a_0} \right) e^{- \frac{Zr}{a_0}} \right] dr$$

pulsar pagoda
fathom swallowBOT
#

jacobjivanov

storm sage
#

oh @fringe summit someone just answered

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so someone asked what dependent type theory was and he responded something about it being the internal language of topoi

fringe summit
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Based

pulsar pagoda
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if u had to rank mathematicians in order of chadness

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how would u do it for 3?

fringe summit
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I mean honestly yeah

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Give or take a specific definition of dependent type theory ofc

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Idk why they’d clown him, but I guess you could just say it looks like HOL in that case too

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Say that dependent types B:A->U are bundles B->A

storm sage
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I don't know anything about topoi or dependent type theory

pulsar pagoda
#

whats type theory?

storm sage
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but they were probably thinking of proof theory and curry howard

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lambda calculus and stuff

storm sage
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I hear there's a class on type theory next semester so maybe I'll find out

fringe summit
pulsar pagoda
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sounds like stuff compiler writers would use

storm sage
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I don't know anything

storm sage
fringe summit
pulsar pagoda
#

like modulo theory satisfiability?

fringe summit
#

what

pulsar pagoda
#

that is used for verifying the design of software synthesis (designing digital logic circuits through software)

fringe summit
#

Yeah idk what “modulo” is doing there

pulsar pagoda
#

at least its what my phd buddy told me, theres this guy using it for generative ai

fringe summit
#

Anyhow, it’s proof verification stuff too

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Just syntactic

pulsar pagoda
#

so in terms of math

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how is syntax

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and semantics

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defined?

storm sage
#

sharp you got this one

fringe summit
#

If you can prove some soundness or completeness (you’re kinda boned if you’re not effective? so it had better be effective) then passing back & forth is nice

pulsar pagoda
#

did i just asked big boy questions?

fringe summit
storm sage
#

syntax and semantics are VERY important to logic

fringe summit
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Syntax is ez in that sense

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With a handful of variations ofc

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Semantics?

pulsar pagoda
#

interpretation

fringe summit
#

Yeah basically just interpretation

storm sage
#

sharp I asked my mentor when continuous logic gets different from first-order logic and he was like NO NO NO that's the whole point it's the same!!!

fringe summit
fringe summit
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Think categorical semantics vs set based semantics vs kripke frames vs full semantics for HOL etc

pulsar pagoda
#

i just know naive set theory

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rip

fringe summit
#

But 3 of those are just set based ones

pulsar pagoda
#

ohh

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keep going

storm sage
#

sets are magical

fringe summit
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Basic idea is sending things to sets w/ relation and/or function structures

pulsar pagoda
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ahh

fringe summit
#

Think sending propositions to {true, false}

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Where true <= false

pulsar pagoda
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and seeing if there are order and equivalence relationships?

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and stuff of that sort

fringe summit
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(Though I often see false <= true in a poset thing)

storm sage
#

sharp maybe the best way to do this is to do an example (like group theory in first-order logic)

fringe summit
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Ye

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A group is a particular interpretation of [the group theory]

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A set with its functional structure from multiplication and inverses

pulsar pagoda
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a set with at least one operation which is associative has an inverse and posseses a identity

storm sage
#

yeah the semantics of group theory is like looking at the actual sets themselves which are groups

fringe summit
#

Normal model theory is essentially interpretations of theories in ZFC

storm sage
#

the syntax of group theory is like looking at all the statements that are true about groups and trying to write logical deductions between them

fringe summit
#

The syntax of group theory doesn’t need sets at all

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You can have group objects in any category, for example

fringe summit
storm sage
#

like for example start from "for all x, there exists y such that xy = yx = e" and the rest of the group axioms and derive stuff like "if there are exactly four elements, then either there exists an element x such that x^4 = e or for all x ≠ e, x^2 = e"

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none of those statements actually need the concept of a "set" and you can write logical deductions going from the one sentence to the others

pulsar pagoda
#

x is what?

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and element

storm sage
#

an element of the group yeah

pulsar pagoda
#

cause u said there are no set

fringe summit
storm sage
pulsar pagoda
#

deduction rules

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interesting

storm sage
#

for example, the key property of "for all x" is that if you have something like "for all x, phi(x)" then you can immediately deduce "phi(y)"

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it does not matter what phi is

fringe summit
storm sage
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that is, the correctness of an argument only depends on what form it is in!

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not on the actual content of the argument

pulsar pagoda
#

mmm

storm sage
#

this is why stuff like this is called formal because we're only concerned about the form of the argument

pulsar pagoda
#

so its a permutation

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and order matters

fringe summit
#

Permutation???

pulsar pagoda
#

kind of like what coding theory does

storm sage
#

what lol where did permutation come from

pulsar pagoda
#

wait

fringe summit
#

Yeah no it’s just syntactic, like programming language

pulsar pagoda
#

ur using form

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whats a form?

storm sage
#

so like

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lemme give an example

fringe summit
#

It’s just symbols

pulsar pagoda
#

are u mapping those symbols to truth values?

storm sage
#

if you're only concerned with syntax, no

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truth values are on the semantic side

indigo storm
storm sage
#

Imma give two different arguments about completely different things

I am 21. Anyone who is 21 can legally drink alcohol. Therefore I can legally drink alcohol.

It is raining. Whenever it rains, the ground gets wet. The ground is wet.

fringe summit
storm sage
#

both of these arguments are about completely different things

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but they share the same argument form

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X. X implies Y. Therefore Y.

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so when I speak about deduction rules, I'm abstracting away from all of the specific details of an argument and only concerned about its form

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does that make sense?

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it's a very different way from how we usually think, I think, but it's an important abstraction

pulsar pagoda
#

yes

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like in ur case is

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affirm a

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a implies y

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so y

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and a, y are arbitrary

storm sage
#

yup!

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so like another example of this is:

For all X, phi(X). Therefore phi(Y).

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The point of syntax is that "for all" is just meaningless symbols until you introduce this deduction rule, and then once you introduce this rule, that gives it its meaning!

pulsar pagoda
#

ok

storm sage
#

In other words, the meaning of different strings comes from what other strings you can deduce from it

pulsar pagoda
#

so

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there is a word that gets thrown a lot

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in logic

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domain of discourse

storm sage
#

Whereas in semantics, the meaning of different strings comes from whether they are true or false in a certain interpretation

fringe summit
pulsar pagoda
#

would the domain of discourse be what it gives meaning?

storm sage
#

sharp stop type-theorying!!!!

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:^)

fringe summit
storm sage
#

once you want to start assigning interpretations where you map the symbols into actual things in your domain of discourse, that is semantics

pulsar pagoda
#

now i get why they say logicist are good at algebra

storm sage
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okay that is because model theory is OP in algebra

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or so I am told

pulsar pagoda
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i didnt say they cold know more than an algebraist per say

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but it makes sense

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since its pertaining to the structures of arguments

storm sage
#

But the point is there are two parallel approaches here

  • Syntax: The meaning of a formula results from what other formulas you can get to from it using formal deductions
  • Semantics: The meaning of a formula results from your interpretation, that is, how you map different symbols in the formula to objects or relations in your domain of discourse
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Gödel proved the completeness theorem in his PhD thesis which (along with the soundness theorem) actually shows that these two viewpoints are equivalent for first-order logic

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Any implication you can prove (syntactic) is true (semantic), and any implication that is true you can prove

pulsar pagoda
#

sort of what happens with induction and wop

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like

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its a if and only if

storm sage
#

yea exactly

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that's another example of an equivalence

pulsar pagoda
storm sage
#

two sides of the same coin, if you will

pulsar pagoda
#

mm interesting

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its almost like this advanced undergrad concepts are approachable if u know who to ask the right questions

indigo storm
pulsar pagoda
#

cause this would we covered in a undergrad logic course?

jade citrus
#

how would I do 2^2/5 - 2^3/2

pulsar pagoda
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4/5 - 8/2

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4/5 - 4

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4-20/5

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-16/5

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@jade citrus u following?

atomic cypress
#

i think urmum forgot the parentheses around 2/5 and 3/2

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and was asked to estimate this

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similar to some interview problems ive gotten if so

pulsar pagoda
#

well its not that hard

fringe summit
fringe summit
pulsar pagoda
#

se esta quemando el rancho? (its shit hitting the fan for the help channels?)

storm sage
storm sage
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!noadvert

quasi jettyBOT
#

Please do not advertise your help channel or thread in other parts of the server. There are many people who need help, and no one person can be prioritized over other people, so please patiently wait. Anyone who chooses to help you is a volunteer who is doing so out of their own kindness.

obtuse juniper
indigo storm
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Dont tag me

jade citrus
storm sage
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please stop posting your help thread everywhere

obtuse juniper
#

Thanks

storm sage
#

I think .close also works

jade citrus
#

how would I simplify 2^(2/5) - 2^(3/2)

pulsar pagoda
#

they have the same base

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which is 2

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start from there

jade citrus
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ok

pulsar pagoda
#

i finished it

jade citrus
pulsar pagoda
#

yes

fringe summit
pulsar pagoda
fringe summit
#

It’s wild that the dissertation is still referenced at all

pulsar pagoda
#

how long ago was it published?

fringe summit
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A while

storm sage
#

tbf the proof everyone learns is due to henkin

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idk gödel's original proof

pulsar pagoda
#

if i remembered correctly he constructed a thing called godel numbers

storm sage
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no

pulsar pagoda
#

ohh

storm sage
#

wrong theorem

pulsar pagoda
#

ahh

storm sage
#

gödel proved an insane amount of things

fringe summit
pulsar pagoda
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godel was a gigachad

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ngl

fringe summit
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Idk which one is henkin

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A semantic one kinda falls out immediately from like, ultraproducts opencry

storm sage
#

constructing a model to satisfy consistent sentences

fringe summit
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Ye, godel did one based just on syntactic stuff, which is cool

pulsar pagoda
#

is fuzzy logic and fuzzy set theory covered in discrete math?

fringe summit
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Maybe not?

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Idk how much it matters too much either

neat lintel
#

furry logic and furry set theory

fierce pivot
#

can someone pls help me with proofs

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it seems not many ppl are active when it comes to proofs

mental stratus
solar hawk
#

What’s that even mean

long matrix
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fuzzy

wispy crypt
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name the one best math book to learn all of calculus

long saffron
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the one i wrote

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you can buy it now for a small price of $100,000 + shipping + tax

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buy 1 for the price of 2 and get 1 free!

digital galleon
ember grove
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hellloo

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guys

mental stratus
#

sup

sonic field
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???

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They must mean in the help chs. All I get is help with proofs 👀

white spindle
#

hey guys i got an idea: assume we have two chains of audio, these parallel chains equal in gain at both -6dB. Thus, also if we have a -6dB chain we can have two -12dB chain which will equal unity with the -6dB. as well, there is the boostier which goes from 0dB to 6dB - the boostier enables more exponential behavior. as well there is the necessity for no signal at some times, but this always is to create the correct global 0dB summation at both ends. of these two domains are formed of solution of a high and low, they are the beginning and end of the timeline in question for example a trajectory... this usage of modulated unity is an efficient way to solve parabolas using only amplitude modulation of audio or in other words VCAs!

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*a boostier is used with a lesser signal that goes to zero to create a resonance at some point of the lesser signal

burnt ledge
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Guess whos back

white spindle
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guys why do you think i am trolling i just want to talk

burnt ledge
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i enjoy reading ur posts

white spindle
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ahaa means a lot

burnt ledge
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especially ones that are more like this one, where i can follow what's going on

white spindle
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sorry for being over presumptive

burnt ledge
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some of the other ones i have no idea

white spindle
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huh, this is actually the domain of the heisenberg orbitals, hard maths not the electrical engineering i was talking about earlier

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bitcoin is so hacky! i can see why you would have trouble understanding that specific one because it is real patchy the BTC solution

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i can explain a little herein, there is a delayed integral which is taken at two places, if it is not too long and correct integral it is valid... that is how the miner talks to the blockchain, for the blockchain... hmm, a little harder, the blockchain generates a valid-through-inversion pulse if you get a GO, YOU ARE MINING BTC signal from the BTC server... This is a Mandelbrot fractal e.g. 7-4-1-4-7 is what I used for my miner... then, if the valid initial fractal is detected it passes the inversion of the fractal for the length of the fractal (phew)... as well bitcoin has 3 modes which are the relative difficulty of the mining, if the server GO, YOU ARE MINING BTC signal is a long signal then it is more difficult to mine than if there was no start signal, and your mining client will always respond to the server signal to start being more difficult mining which this happens if you are not using a real btc miner and it is pirate it is difficult to mine!

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soo, what this means is you keep your signal going for the longest and you have won the pot that the holding corporation puts down, some BTC! these lengths of excursion now are very long!

vague moat
#

My brain Is exploding

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Help

white spindle
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well, you got the access to bitcoin mining with a miner which is just 5kb in this described protocol. and your wallet which actually is most of your miner pack actually. the exe of the miner is just 5kb tho here

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i can get the protocol's logon down to 36kb! actual protocol is only 200kb, but huh, that detection of mine is all technos and efes and jasons work that is in them analysis packs

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mining* sorry not mine

solar hawk
white spindle
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@burnt ledge hey check #chill i got an image of the parabola formed, all i did was hold up button so it is totally what you get if you just advance the time

burnt ledge
white spindle
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huh, that is because all i am doing is some bending like aang not actually solving any equations! what comes out could be anything!

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hey gimme a sec and i can get you another parabola

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or uh, whatever you call it

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that is where i have messed up the equals, but it is still a parabola - note how it goes down first, then up

mint patio
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@river moon Hi

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So like

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We started off with the purely discrete case, a spring element

white spindle
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yea uh it is just a pointonemeter that is based around or varisistor

mint patio
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You get what's called an element stiffness equation for that specific element

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Then you look at an assembly, a combination of elements

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And with some math you can find what's called the global stiffness equation, which relates all of the nodal forces to the displacements and stuff

white spindle
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all these resistors have to be connected to ground and have no crosswiring, this is not a perceptron!

river moon
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ah yes, ohm's law x'' = mahmmCat

mint patio
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There's some rules for connecting all of the different element stiffness matrices

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But the end result always looks tridiagonal, like you said

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So that's why I was like

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Wait you know about this?

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Ok so after that

white spindle
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hmm, they are yea not actually parabola unless you have some kind of complete set

mint patio
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Now we're going to look at a continuous element

river moon
white spindle
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yea that is what i meant, u have continous then it is possible to approximate a parabola

mint patio
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You just need to understand that

white spindle
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that is what U 1 implies in physics that we have a field of this

mint patio
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Every element has an element matrix equation

white spindle
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huh but what if i am more water than air

mint patio
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And for an assembly/composition/arrangement of elements, we can combine all the element matrix equations to get a global equation

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Which always looks tridiagonal

mint patio
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And you can see my element matrix equation at the bottom right

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Are you following so far?

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Now the cool part is that

white spindle
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gosh yea so what i meant by water is that i have specific continous element forma which i use already and that having more than what is already there which is what physics implies is ego dyscongruent

mint patio
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In the continuous case

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Those displacements u_i and u_j

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are actually partial derivatives

white spindle
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huh, yes there is probably some evidence of this i have said on reddit!

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u-g and u-i are supersets of the evidence i laid!

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but probably others have done it it is verry common

mint patio
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And so by asembling the continuous elements like we did before we get the same tridiagonal system but as a PDE this time

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which is why I was surprised you knew it'd be tridiagonal hehe

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But Sverek explained it

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Sorta

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I have to do some reading

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LOL

river moon
white spindle
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huh, yea u got some buffer which forms which is u-d based

mint patio
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Actually my matrix equation isn't even fully correct

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Because like

white spindle
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that is all based around timeline which is what you said that that is that continous element time leads to the formation of said maths

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what we have here is just some arbitrary imaginary time which is some space planets from some space exploration game

mint patio
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The stress terms should actually be partial derivatives of stress terms

white spindle
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these are not very common isometric solutions and that is not for bending that is for the physics, i am after specific imaginary time of starfield planet menu

mint patio
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So you'd end up with partial derivatives on both sides I'm fairly certain

white spindle
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*isometric is what is attempted and yea there is the introduction of resonant partial derivative with boostier

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*also the later linked is a molinya view so it buggers off into eternal bang if we try to use it as a start to relativity without a contrary partial derivative at the other side

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huh well if you do this right it is a line that is just an exponential curve and you have no triagonal formation of endpoint vanishing, what i did is bending to form some isometric view

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*these are valid imaginary time because imaginary time implies all multiverse thus these specific time loops are seen SOMEWHERE but maybe not anywhere but imaginary time

silver gale
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Hello

sour gulch
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Math challenge!
If B+A =10 and A - B = 6.
What are the values of B and A

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(It’s really easy)

neat lintel
sour gulch
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Bro it’s so easy

neat lintel
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if it's so easy then why don't you do it yourself?

sour gulch
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Ok

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B = 8 and A = 2

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See

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Easy

neat lintel
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lol

sick kite
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Tteppa stop trying to hide the fact you can't solve it smh

neat lintel
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so true

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A = 4001 and B = 435345

sour gulch
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@neat lintel

white spindle
sour gulch
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Solve this

mint patio
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Don't ping me

white spindle
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yo there is where we don't have the trilinear artefact!

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sorry wont ping u

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that is where i had solved it mostly right, but it is the wrong direction here! sorry

silver gale
neat lintel
silver gale
neat lintel
silver gale
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I don’t need help

sour gulch
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Ops

silver gale
sour gulch
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I mean 8 - 2 =6

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Ye

neat lintel
mint patio
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I don't know what I want to do with my life fuck mannn