serious-discussion

[neat lintel]

Well numerical integrations are used to calculate work done over time(Something atoms do corrrect) cells do? They expend energy when performing chemical operations, like overcoming the phospholipid bi-layer, which wouldn't that mean you also did molecular dynamics?

[honest slate]

that's cap

dont listen to him

im real youre real god is real numbers are not real

[grizzled grove]

Moderators are unable to change name of channels?

[fresh stag]

stop digging you own grave man holy shit

[next schooner]

Honestly

[neat lintel]

It's a serious question.

[rancid meadow]

what the fuck is the phospholipid bi-layer

[neat lintel]

...

Gateway to a cell?

[rancid meadow]

this is a math server can u use regular words

[next schooner]

Fuck if I know

[tall minnow]

Did chatgpt provide this random answer

[neat lintel]

Barrier that separates the outside from the inside of a cell?

[next schooner]

I said mathematical biology not biology

[neat lintel]

You would have had to learn biology first correct?

[next schooner]

The biology part is just branding

No

[fresh stag]

well u didn’t learn op-amps before rf apparently

[next schooner]

I mostly just do math of the sort that is most often applied to biology

[rancid meadow]

i bet u dont even know what the mitocondria does

[next schooner]

It's also of interest in chemistry and, i will concede, in molecular dynamics and statistical mechanics

[rancid meadow]

stupid

[fresh stag]

thats the battery right

[tall minnow]

It's the power horse of the jail

[neat lintel]

https://www.britannica.com/science/mathematical-biology

[rancid meadow]

fuck wait is it the battery

i never thought of it like that

[honest slate]

BRO PULLED UP BRITANNICA

NO WAY

[rancid meadow]

[next schooner]

https://tenor.com/view/big-brain-brains-calculation-viral-head-gif-26479585

[neat lintel]

At least it isn't wikipedia.

[next schooner]

This mf

[rancid meadow]

heres the wikipedia article for your own phd subject

[honest slate]

nah it's ggs you aint winning @next schooner

[next schooner]

gg no re

[honest slate]

how can you argue against that britannica article man

[next schooner]

Emphasis on the no re do not speak to or contact me again

[tiny saddle]

hey, wiki isn't that bad

[neat lintel]

Use it get a fail.

[tiny saddle]

I mean

[fresh stag]

wikipidea is given a bad name for no good reason

[tiny saddle]

it's good for summing concepts up

definitely bad for learning

but if u ever find urself in a position where u forgot formal definitions of stuff or smth

[neat lintel]

And some of it is outlandishly wrong.

[tiny saddle]

wait what?

[honest slate]

just like you rn

[tiny saddle]

there's actually wrong info on math?

[tall minnow]

Which of math wiki is wrong

[tiny saddle]

yeah

from what I seen and heard from a lotta people

there's close to 0 error, for maths at least

[next schooner]

I am cited in a Wikipedia article

[rancid meadow]

one time i edited a math wiki article because they had an inequality wrong

you're welcome

[neat lintel]

And I wasn't wrong. about numerical techniques used in Mathematical biology FYI

[next schooner]

I am the primary source you fear

[tiny saddle]

yay

[tall minnow]

Tell us where the math wiki is wrong I'm curious

[honest slate]

maidenless

[rancid meadow]

And I wasn't wrong. about algebra being used in Physics FYI

[neat lintel]

It's used to model physics, approximately.

[tall minnow]

If it's so outlandishly wrong it should be very common

[next schooner]

Homie, it's math bio you could've said literally any piece of math and it would've been true

[rancid meadow]

that one article i edited.

i fixed it tho

ur welcome

[tiny saddle]

honestly pretty rare given how there's so many people using it, most of the time it gets fixed before it even becomes an issue

[rancid meadow]

i think it was the ordered field page

[tall minnow]

Nice but I'm not asking you

[rancid meadow]

k?

why are people mean to me now that im white this sucks

be nice

[rancid meadow]

nvm it wasnt idr what it was

[neat lintel]

Because of the nature of wikipedia it cannot be cited as a credible source period. It does not have oversight like most scientific journals.

[honest slate]

do you use counting?

didnt think so

[tall minnow]

I'm asking for an example. Not your opinion

[honest slate]

why do you talk like this 💀

[next schooner]

Just wait till you learn how bullshit the peer review process can be

[warped creek]

Count how many cells just divided in that petri dish

[rancid meadow]

Millennials go crazy over peer review

[honest slate]

how bullshit is it

[rancid meadow]

it's really funny

[tiny saddle]

just because it doesn't doesn't mean it is not accurate

[rancid meadow]

Zoomers don't care about peer review

[neat lintel]

Is it not intended to prove by reproduction of the validity of a claim?

[warped creek]

Wdym

[rancid meadow]

wdym wdym

I said what i mean

[tall minnow]

Just waiting to see how long he can dodge giving examples

[warped creek]

Care to give a glimpse

[rancid meadow]

millennials go crazy kookoo over the peer review process

[next schooner]

Peer review can be very political

[tiny saddle]

[honest slate]

why

[rancid meadow]

gen X see's "peer review" in the headline they flip tf out they love it. doesnt make sense

zoomers see thru it

[warped creek]

Ohhhh

So peer review doesn’t necessarily indicate quality of research done

It means you’re not speaking nonsense

[next schooner]

People doing peer review are often members of a fairly small research community and it is often quite easy to tell who the reviewers and reviewees are (note that this is generally supposed to be anonymous)

[warped creek]

At the minimum

[neat lintel]

What makes you think it is true?

[next schooner]

Some academics hold grudges or dislike certain methodologies and can easily tank a paper in the right circumstances

This is evidenced by the fact that most major journals now let you blacklist certain potential reviewers

[rancid meadow]

I read about this in an epistemology paper its called Circumstantial injustice

ur welcome

[tall minnow]

so you don't have any examples and were just speaking out of your behind

Well it's been fun

[neat lintel]

No why do you think it is true that all of it is correct?

[honest slate]

stop using big words

[next schooner]

Neat

[neat lintel]

Serious question there.

[warped creek]

Big words give you big lawsuit money

[tiny saddle]

a huge portion of it must be correct given how almost no one has spotted/complained about the accuracy of the website

[neat lintel]

Anecdotal logical fallacy.

[honest slate]

hey what do you call math done in secret

[rancid meadow]

epistmeoology = its like math but for thoughts
circumstantial = depends on the context
injustice = when someone is bad to you

[honest slate]

thanks

[warped creek]

discrete mathematics

[tall minnow]

I never claimed this. I merely asked you to provide examples. Not your opinion, which we now know to be baseless

[rancid meadow]

yw

[honest slate]

LOLOL

LAUGH OUT LOUD

[neat lintel]

Just because you think it isn't wrong, you have no means of proving it isn't wrong.

[next schooner]

Nanite go try and edit Wikipedia with something blatantly incorrect and see how fast those wiki folks slap your balls

[rancid meadow]

i dont support pretentiousness on the math server so i like to break it down for the lil guys

[honest slate]

i did that once

[neat lintel]

Wikipedia contains a few million pages are you going to rigorously check everything?

[tiny saddle]

how was the experience?

[rancid meadow]

you would be surprised tbh

[next schooner]

In any case don't cite Wikipedia check the primary sources yadda yadda

[tiny saddle]

you'd be surprised

[honest slate]

i was 10 and i changed professor oaks name from professor oak to professor poopy pants on the pokemon article and it got immediately changed and i got a temp ban

[tall minnow]

That doesn't mean you get the free check to claim something without evidence or experience. Which you have been doing for quite a while

[neat lintel]

Just wait till GPT-4 model based AI posters begin hitting it.

[rancid meadow]

fuck man imagine if it stuck tho

[neat lintel]

It will be interesting.

[rancid meadow]

bernstain bears style

[honest slate]

ik

it was so funny to me too

[rancid meadow]

its funny to me now

[next schooner]

New Mandela effect just dropped????.?

[warped creek]

What flavor

[next schooner]

Prof poopy pants

[tall minnow]

Anyway it's been fun but I would expect you at least to know some spicy examples for trolling instead of just being clueless. Clueless is just boring

[honest slate]

ill become prof poopy pants

i just got to legally change my name

and get a phd

then

get tenure somewhere

[next schooner]

Uh oh you said the p word

[rancid meadow]

we've all decided that phds are not worth it

[honest slate]

WHAT P WORD

[neat lintel]

ad hominem

[rancid meadow]

keep up

[next schooner]

It starts with p and rhymes with PhD

[rancid meadow]

not the logical fallacies 😭 just admit u lost

this is reddit behaviour

[tiny saddle]

@neat lintel point is, it's far more likely than not that wikipedia info on mathematics is accurate, given the number of people who use it, as well as the minimal complaints/errors. It's far more likely than not that wiki is accurate, and you have no direct evidence (such as an incorrect wiki page) to back up your claim that it is not accurate.

[neat lintel]

They provided no counter arguments what so ever.

[rancid meadow]

what are u guys even arguing aboiut

[tiny saddle]

whether wiki is accurate or not

[honest slate]

that is why you have no maidens

you have no maidens

[tiny saddle]

for maths

[tall minnow]

We asked you to provide examples. You have none.

[honest slate]

you live in your moms basement

you use discord and reddit

[rancid meadow]

wikipedia is accurate as fuck do u not understand how neurotic math wiki people are

wikipedia editors are like insane

[honest slate]

you try to sound smart online

[tiny saddle]

just because it's possible for there to be mistakes on wiki, it does not mean that the wiki is innacurate.

[neat lintel]

Burden of proof.

[honest slate]

please go outside

[rancid meadow]

every single wikipedia article has a grad student assigned to it who spends half their time just making sure it's perfect

[tall minnow]

Lies on you who claim it is outlandishly wrong

[fresh stag]

nanite you need to provide evidence for your claims

[tiny saddle]

lmao, it's ok guys

[rancid meadow]

so much nerd posting in chat

[tall minnow]

I never claimed anything about wiki

[split copper]

What happened to the server

[static loom]

👏absence👏of👏evidence👏is👏not👏evidence👏of👏absence👏!

[rancid meadow]

liberalism

Whats everyones favourite theorem.

[honest slate]

boondocks

[rancid meadow]

I like Compactness 😄

[honest slate]

real

[neat lintel]

You are quick to believe based on authority alone you appeal to authority.

[tiny saddle]

we know that nanite's wrong and so long as no one's getting confused/mislead

[warped creek]

I was trying to remember this line

[tiny saddle]

there's no need for us to care unless they take it too far

[warped creek]

Thank you

I just watched that episode yesterday

[honest slate]

@rancid meadow wat does liberalism ahve to do with the server

[rancid meadow]

idk what does ur mom have to do w my bed

[static loom]

episode?

[tall minnow]

I claim or believe nothing. You made the claim

Anyway another moron to the block list

[humble birch]

episode of what?

[honest slate]

nothing she is celibate

[rancid meadow]

oh real

[fresh stag]

Weirstrass polynomial approximation theorem

[rancid meadow]

That's a good one

[warped creek]

boondocks

[neat lintel]

You appeal to the authority of the individuals who maintain the wikipedia page, how do you know it is true?

[honest slate]

💀

[rancid meadow]

do u like the proof or the result more

[tiny saddle]

umm what

sorry

[neat lintel]

If you can't explain how it is right, how can you know it is right?

[tiny saddle]

what

[fresh stag]

the proof

[tiny saddle]

he is not appealing to anyone at all

._.

[fresh stag]

but the power of the result is also appealing

[tiny saddle]

he's simply asking you to prove your point

by providing an example

[humble birch]

oh... I only ever heard of that line in some arguments between atheist and theist; alien conspiracies

[tiny saddle]

it's as simple as that, really

[rancid meadow]

Nanite can u explain the epistemic basis for all of ur knowledge

[neat lintel]

He could prove his own point by giving examples which he can not.

[rancid meadow]

I want u to explain the epistemic basis for all of ur knowledge to me right now

[tiny saddle]

he did not state a point in the first place, he merely opposed yours

[fresh stag]

once you realize that stone weirstrass and all these density results follow from weirstrass polynomial approximation theorem

[rancid meadow]

whats the best part of the proof rahul

[humble birch]

If you can't explain why you exist, how can you know you exist?

[warped creek]

I heard it from a politicians son right before he shot up a store and got the store owner arrested

[neat lintel]

This is a dangerous point with people, just because it's vetted by people with a degree doesn't mean it's a credible claim

[warped creek]

The store owner did nothing wrong

[humble birch]

sir, what?

[honest slate]

yo me too

[neat lintel]

Case in point inventor of the lithium ion battery

[neat lintel]

PhD holder

[fresh stag]

its so foreboding of the family of kernels type argukent which imo is beautiful

[neat lintel]

Lied about moving to unachievable battery energy density.

[fresh stag]

but really the most beautiful part for me was that convolution with a polynomial is still a polynomial

it’s so trivial

but so important

[neat lintel]

So, even if the "people" on wikipedia are PhD holders, are grad students how do "you" know it's right?

[rancid meadow]

neat!

[honest slate]

@neat lintel WHY DONT YOU GO OUTSIDE

😭

[tiny saddle]

by that logic, literally almost everything is innacurate.

[fresh stag]

the rest of the result is just a family of kernel type argument

[rancid meadow]

bro cant explain the epistemic basis of all his knowledge 😭😭😭😭

[neat lintel]

I go abseiling every weekend.

[surreal sapphire]

this lemma is great, because it allows you to do exact arithmetic in p-adic field extensions while only knoiwing sufficiently good approximations of the numbers

[neat lintel]

I get plenty of air outside.

[tiny saddle]

man's worse than any pessimist I ever seen

[rancid meadow]

bro relies on the experts 😭😭😭

[fresh stag]

why do you like compactness jesse

[rancid meadow]

i think the proof is neat

[honest slate]

i go down on your mom every weekend

[rancid meadow]

and i like that it's equivalent to tychonoffs

[static loom]

it's pretty simple to prove too, and like combines analysis and algebra, so pretty sexy to see the two shaking hands like that

[rancid meadow]

i think thats fun

[fresh stag]

u mean heine borel ?

[rancid meadow]

I mean logical compactness

[neat lintel]

No rock climbing, you know core strength?

[fresh stag]

oh i know nothing about that

what is that

[rancid meadow]

finite subset of sentences has a model iff all of them do

[rancid meadow]

we've dragged him down to our level guys

we won

[static loom]

could you elaborate a bit on that, like if you have something specific in mind

[tall minnow]

Hairy ball

[static loom]

like hwen you end up in that sorta scenario

[rancid meadow]

is it bc of the funny name

[honest slate]

your mother climbs all over my phallus

[warped creek]

I can’t pick a favorite theorem

[rancid meadow]

i did a presentation on poincare-hopf last semester

[neat lintel]

Jesus, if all of you are so clever why the hell are you on discord anyway.

[warped creek]

Ugh

[neat lintel]

Go put that brain to real life application.

[rancid meadow]

thats a fun theorem

no ur not my mom

i will waste away on discord

[honest slate]

your mother gives me 🧠 all the time

[tiny saddle]

lmao just ignore nanite at this point

[hasty leaf]

Bored maybe

[neat lintel]

There is endless things they can do.

[honest slate]

i do your mom in endless positions

[humble birch]

I lost track of his argument

[tiny saddle]

exactly, his argument is messed up lmao

[neat lintel]

They can't comprehend the possibility of people who have credibility potentially being possibly wrong.

Or even lying.

[hasty leaf]

I get this

[neat lintel]

It has happened multiple times within academia.

[tiny saddle]

we accept that possibility, but it's clearly not the case that this is true for wiki

[neat lintel]

How do you know?

[humble birch]

Of course that's true but it's not limited to Wikipedia, is it?

[neat lintel]

Nope.

[surreal sapphire]

my formulation isnt great tbh
you can determine p-adic field extensions Q_p[x]/(f) precisely by only knowing approximations of the coefficients of f, which is kind of weird because we cant do exact arithmetic with p-adic numbers, but we can store field extensions precisely on the computer

[neat lintel]

Definitely not.

[surreal sapphire]

i dont know any use for this

[humble birch]

Ok

[fresh stag]

just to give some context nanite ranted for 2 paragraphs about how he doesnt need the education system and learnt calculus on his own in 6 months without the prerequisites

[hasty leaf]

I met someone who actually told me to fake data was a PhD Candidate.. reported to uni

[humble birch]

I don't see what we are arguing then lol

[honest slate]

@neat lintel do you know the pokemon gulpin

[humble birch]

oh no...

don't do this

[neat lintel]

They're already blocked.

[honest slate]

💀

[rancid meadow]

you can just read the wikipedia article and figure out if it’s wrong btw

[neat lintel]

No you can not.

[rancid meadow]

its like essentially trivial if you have intelligence

i can.

[honest slate]

it's cuz i did their mother in endless positions

[rancid meadow]

sorry you’re not smart lol

[tiny saddle]

1. we show trust that educated and certified people have little reason to spread false information.
2. the assumption that it's all a lie may be true, but this would literally be equivalent to not trusting anything at all, which is absurd and far more detrimental.

[fresh stag]

did you guys like hanh banach when you first saw it?

[neat lintel]

Perfect proof. People asking ChatGPT questions, it creates plausible looking answers but due to the nature of internal bias based on training data it can confidently lie.

[static loom]

interesting, but neat sounding. Sorta makes sense I think, like Hensel's lemma sorta works similarly I think, once you have some algebraic equations you can kinda work out as many digits as you want I suppose

[neat lintel]

And this will only get worse as time goes on.

[hasty leaf]

So we should be skeptical

[tiny saddle]

of course. And ChatGPT is only said to be a language model, not a mathematics professor, is it?

[tall minnow]

Geometric one or the other one

[surreal sapphire]

there are only finitely many field extensions of Q_p and the krasner basically says that the roots continuously depend on the coefficients

[hasty leaf]

But to a reasonable amount

[neat lintel]

I thought that was what they taught you in university?

"Critical Thinking"

[fresh stag]

extension of linear functionals

[surreal sapphire]

so once you are "close enough", you know the extensions precisely

[tiny saddle]

and as far as it goes, chat GPT almost never gets its grammar and vocab wrong.

so it has done it's job.

[hasty leaf]

As should be yes

[neat lintel]

Clearly a lot of people didn't get the memo.

[static loom]

yeah, that's more what I had in mind for what to use krasner's lemma for, the continuity of roots to coefficients, and like proving there are countably many extensions of Q_p

[honest slate]

@neat lintel please unblock me sir

im sorry

[static loom]

I guess I don't really know how to make that do "work" for me

[torn willow]

Isn't "critical thinking" just thinking

[honest slate]

i was blinded by my biased views and i did not stop to truly consider your opinion and took them at face value

[hasty leaf]

Because maybe they haven't seen the dirt in industry and academia... and is idealistic

[neat lintel]

No.

[honest slate]

for that i apologize

[torn willow]

What's the difference

[surreal sapphire]

i always wanted to find some computational use of p-adics

[static loom]

I sorta guessed it was sorta like a low-low-grade kronecker weber for p-adic fields since you could sorta use that to sort out what's contained in what

[rancid meadow]

arent padics like heavily used in cryptography

am i smoking weed

[neat lintel]

Also fun fact is PhD's are not always smart, they expend a lot of energy and work, but not necessarily smart.

[fresh stag]

i remember seing the statement of hanh banach and thinking why do we need domination by a sublinear function cant we just let it be 0 elsewhere. i realized 10 minutes later how wrong i was

[neat lintel]

Educated yes, smart not necessarily.

[hasty leaf]

Some do motivated thinking... letting feelings dictate stuff rather than reason

[rancid meadow]

bro is consistently cringe posting 💀

[fresh stag]

but the statement itself never really appealed to me the same way fixed point or inverse function theorem did

[torn willow]

According to this book, apparently no

[static loom]

yeah I looked into this too, like doing some computations with rational numbers, it's just in the end the notion of closeness doesn't really help you too much if you care about real numbers

[tall minnow]

Yeah. Well at first I thought it's like a curiosity. But nowadays it's as basic and fundamental as extending a linearly independent list or a continuous function

[neat lintel]

Came from a psychologists own mouth not mine.

[torn willow]

Didn't you say you don't trust authority before?

[hasty leaf]

I seen this a PhD candidate begged me to do his Matlab lmao and I only got MS units

[rancid meadow]

you must understand how copium it sounds when you say it

[neat lintel]

Critical Thinking is thinking without accepting information at face value, questioning the persons behind it, their motivations, their goals, who they interact with, who their vested interests are.

[surreal sapphire]

i did some stuff with p-adic vector spaces in my class

[torn willow]

Isn't that just being irrational

[surreal sapphire]

there is a result that every ball is a lattice

which is kinda cool

[hasty leaf]

Maybe Credentialed but unless we examine how it was obtained...

[neat lintel]

Critical thinking also means ignoring loaded language, emotional language.

[surreal sapphire]

lattices are used in cryptography, so why not use p-adic lattices

[neat lintel]

News and many other sources have a tendency to use hyperbolic statements about situations, people, groups or concepts.

[static loom]

lol

idk how lattices are used in cryptography

[hasty leaf]

Yes but it's how many of us operate and Think rather than doing Critical Thinking

[neat lintel]

Anyone can abuse their position of "authority"

[torn willow]

Cryptanalysis ig?

[hasty leaf]

Yes

[surreal sapphire]

the most commonly used problem is the shortest vector problem

[hasty leaf]

I seen this personally

[static loom]

oh, I've heard of this but forget what it is

[surreal sapphire]

you have to approximate the shortest euclidean vector length

[neat lintel]

Heard about Robert Schon?

[hasty leaf]

Ye

[honest slate]

hello can someone tell @neat lintel to please unblock me

[static loom]

is this equivalent to finding units for some number field or something

[honest slate]

im sorry

[neat lintel]

Yeah case in point people with credibility are not always credible.

[static loom]

like by finding generators

[surreal sapphire]

hmm

[honest slate]

@tall minnow hello President Delerik

[tall minnow]

From all my experience, the people who claim to do logical thinking tend to just bang their head really hard when they get logically cornered and then they start spouting nonsense.
There was maybe like 1 guy who was able to say he needs to revise his statement.

[surreal sapphire]

it could honestly

[static loom]

at least, I know a lot of crypto is based around the fact that finding generators is hard

[hasty leaf]

I could have been a PhD but got lazy lmao

[static loom]

and lattices for finding like the generators of the unit group sounds plausible to me idk anything else lattices are used for in a similar way - because I just don't know much about lattices past like minkowski inequality

[surreal sapphire]

but hmm

[neat lintel]

I didn't feel like investing the time, if you want to do your own PhD level research you can do it on your own, there really isn't anything stopping you.

[surreal sapphire]

in the real quadratic case, there is a quantum algorithm that computes the fundamental unit in polynomial time

so i wouldnt be surprised if this can be generalized

[static loom]

yeah, I'd guess it would be where r+s is much larger

[tall minnow]

Loch have you read Tang's papers

[static loom]

oh

I was thinking it wouldn't generalize but idk either way

[tall minnow]

What are the possible implications of her papers

[static loom]

maybe there are cases it doesn't generalize and work well for

[hasty leaf]

That is when they need to preserve their ego...

[static loom]

dunno this is super far out on a limb speculation lol

[neat lintel]

You could say that about Delerik

[surreal sapphire]

i mean i dont know much about shortest vector problem either

[hasty leaf]

Yes

[surreal sapphire]

i noticed that the crypto people live a lot in their own bubble

we need to make a seminar next semester to learn more about what other people are doing

[hasty leaf]

It burst of late

[static loom]

yeah probably wise considering everyone's gonna be knocking down your stuff in practice if it gets to that point

[surreal sapphire]

yeah lmao

lattices are also the most promising thing

[neat lintel]

Everyone is out to prove everyone else wrong. Reality is we are all wrong, math even at it's core is not representative of the universe.

[surreal sapphire]

the winners are al lattice based

[static loom]

bummer

[surreal sapphire]

for the signature algorithms, NIST did a call specifically asking for things that are not lattice based

[surreal sapphire]

nope

[static loom]

hmm I wonder why

just "easy mode" or something lol

lattice stuff probably has enough momentum in it, they want to help push research in other directions maybe

[surreal sapphire]

experts expect that lattices will break too

[static loom]

casting a wide net

[surreal sapphire]

its just

everything has too much mathematical structure

so in practice the latest buzzword is crypto agility

everyone assumes that stuff will break and sooner rather than later

so you want your crypto libraries to be prepared

so you just have to hit a button to change your primitives

[hasty leaf]

Best to be humble and poke holes at your own beliefs lest they be wrong

[static loom]

that's probably not a bad idea

[neat lintel]

Just wait till the Store-now-decrypt later program completes itself all crypto systems are ruined.

[surreal sapphire]

and security relevant stuff is currently encrypted twice

you use RSA and some post quantum thing

[static loom]

are you familiar with 'forward secrecy'?

[surreal sapphire]

it makes things slower, but yeah

[neat lintel]

Not sure.

No, not familiar.

[static loom]

it's basically why we do diffie hellman key exchange to prevent that

[neat lintel]

Yeah internal tunnel is encrypted then the tunnel on top of that is also encrypted.

But again the CIA is collecting Petabytes worth of data.

For the SND program.

Once they have a sufficiently powerful quantum computer they'll use it to crack everything RSA related over the entire period of that data storage.

[static loom]

not quite

[neat lintel]

If I really want to understand the nitty-gritty I can probably obtain a book on the subject.

Or use he numerous MOC courses out there. (MIT, Harvard, etc)

[honest slate]

💀

[hasty leaf]

If we assume all people are good that's naive and empirically wrong....

However most people don't have time and inclination to debunk stuff

Especially on April 1 lmao

And any other day of the year

[twilit spruce]

Hello world, wondering where's the best channel to get programming math help?

[stone ferry]

shortest vector is (x, 0, 0, 0, 0, ...) for some arbitrarily small x. Boom solved

[surreal sapphire]

no reason to ping me for a bad joke

[long glade]

i just realized its April 1st and my friend spam calling me acting like a stalker at 2am i never figured out why till just now

[upper patrol]

ngl my friend sent me a screenshot of the advanced access names

and i thought "must be some meme server" cos i forgot today was april 1 lol

[scarlet cloud]

For imaginary numbers i is just an indicator right? Like, for example 2i x 2i would be 4i instead of 4i² right?

[vocal roost]

Everyone is sus

[tiny saddle]

2i * 2i would be -4. Think of what i * i means again.

[scarlet cloud]

Oh yeah

[cobalt oxide]

[naive hull]

What happened to the icon?

[torn willow]

They gave up

[neat lintel]

WHY SO MUCH PINGGG

😠

[rocky shuttle]

PI NGL

[dusty wagon]

Leave server?

[neat lintel]

https://tenor.com/view/talking-ben-says-saying-no-outfit7-gif-24967985

[soft goblet]

Does anyone have any book recommendations for Integration theory? Covering stuff like MCT, DCT, Fubini Theorem, Measure Spaces etc...

[rocky shuttle]

Folland's Real Analysis

[ripe wasp]

i love this book

[rocky shuttle]

It's a great book except for the errata

[ripe wasp]

there havent been that many though im just finishing up chap 2

i can only remember a few minor ones

[rocky shuttle]

Most of them are minor, yeah

[soft goblet]

what are the type of errors made

[tiny saddle]

typos mostly

[soft goblet]

oh ok thanks for the recommendations

[ripe wasp]

how would u know

[tiny saddle]

isn't it? I had a skim through it

spotted a few

[ripe wasp]

yeah but u gotta realize maybe u should speak on things u know

[tiny saddle]

I did have a look at it tho ._.

print job

[ripe wasp]

dude like i meant the errors math wise not the spelling

dont think anyone cares if they wrote "the fnuction"

[tiny saddle]

ah

are there also mathematical erreta?

[rocky shuttle]

https://sites.math.washington.edu//~folland/Homepage/reals.pdf

[tiny saddle]

wow, they have that stuff?

cool

[ripe wasp]

most well known books have a list of errata on the internet

[tiny saddle]

icic

how'd u find them btw?

[ripe wasp]

literally search "folland real analysis errata"

[tiny saddle]

lmao, gotcha. Just wanted to know so that I could do the same for any future book I use

[surreal goblet]

"Who pinged"

[neat lintel]

Schilling has a good book about that

Measures, Integrals and Martingales

[ripe wasp]

schilling is good too

[lofty anchor]

discussy??? who hacked this server?

[misty lake]

apRiL fOolS

[hasty current]

If you had to choose between AP calc and AP stat, which would you choose

[rocky shuttle]

AP anal

[neat lintel]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/826363975771619379/1091717788902625442/laced.mp4

[charred terrace]

hmm is there a way to do a simultaneous inequalities like this?

[bright hill]

[leaden torrent]

...like that?

im confused

you could write a, c ≤ 0 ≤ b, d

this is informal

but on a blackboard or w/e its not too egregious

people will know what you mean, as long as theres no chance of confusion with ordered pairs

[bright hill]

I hate how math is taught algorithmically sometimes

as in, for problem such and such do such and such, it's so dumb

I get questions like these from my engineering friends all the time which is so sad

it's not their fault obviously

but math is so much more interesting than that

[charred terrace]

like emm, i wanna determine if there exist a value which simultaneously falls into two intervals

[leaden torrent]

oh is that meant to be a theta, not a 0?

[bright hill]

in that case just take the intersection of [a,b] and [c,d]

[fathom swallow]

tywungu

[leaden torrent]

then yeah

any of these work

[charred terrace]

yes

[hasty current]

My algebra 2 teacher recommended that anyone associated with science or engineering choose calc and anyone who is in art, business or medicine or anything else to take stat

[charred terrace]

hmmm...why?

[leaden torrent]

then yeah, θ ∈ [a, b] ∩ [c, d] is the most direct way

if you want to use intervals

[bright hill]

it's by definition of intersection

[leaden torrent]

but what i'd use depends on the context

if i was giving a lecture i'd just write a, c ≤ θ ≤ b, d

if i was writing a paper i'd use words

[bright hill]

if theta is in [a, b] and theta is in [c,d] then theta is in the intersection of [a,b] and [c,d]

[leaden torrent]

i'd only write θ ∈ [a, b] ∩ [c, d] on like, a pset/exam

[hasty current]

AP calc is certainly a very challenging course but it seems more essential to math than statistics

[charred terrace]

so the intersection will be an interval right?

[bright hill]

yea

or the empty set

[fathom swallow]

tywungu

[hasty current]

As someone who always wants the harder classes I would want to take AP calc

And my school only offers BC, not AB idk why

[hasty current]

Yes

There is also AP pre calc

Is my teacher feels students aren’t ready yet

[long matrix]

left

[fleet cloak]

love the channel name lmfao

[tropic tulip]

That's sir i love the channel name lmfao sir

[fleet cloak]

sir, sorry, sir!

[undone marlin]

https://tenor.com/view/ohhhh-gif-24550048

[neat lintel]

Lieutenant

[neat lintel]

what's AP anal 😳

[unreal heath]

Bruhh

[tight comet]

!help

[quasi jetty]

Please read #❓how-to-get-help

[rocky shuttle]

leftenant

[tawdry pecan]

rightenant?

[bright hill]

dude, I sometimes get recommended some AoT scence and some of that shit is STILL giving me goosebumps

so good holy shit

so sad that the ending was so fucking dumb

[neat lintel]

oh F yeah

AoT is the best

[neat lintel]

whaddya mean dumb?? My beef is that its taking forever

[bright hill]

I'm a manga reader

[neat lintel]

aaaaaaa

stay away!!!!!!@

[bright hill]

lol

[neat lintel]

spoilers!!!!

[bright hill]

the way r/titanfolk went fucking ape shit over the ending is still funny to me

[neat lintel]

i'll finally be able to appreciate all the jokes once the anime is finished

[bright hill]

I should pay those guys a vist

they should be active coz of the new season

[neat lintel]

it took a minute to find a decent AoT discord server

[bright hill]

took me 10 minutes to find this meme lmao

[balmy mural]

Lol

[neat frost]

Last few seasons so crap

[woven whale]

anime is a sin

[neat frost]

Like relative to other anime it's still good, but relative to itself it's crap

[neat frost]

Go away get a life

[woven whale]

says the anime watcher

[neat frost]

Okay

[drowsy lintel]

hola

[dapper current]

good thing it saved itself by having a good ending in the manga

[bright hill]

[humble birch]

Why else would the nation blessed by god nuke them? ||/s||

🤨

sex

Why are you sorry for being happy?

[echo tundra]

It literally became sort of a war between the two communities calling each other out

[hollow ginkgo]

Did the show finally end?

[torn willow]

Wait for the final season

[iron iris]

does anyone know combo class :>

youtube channel

[neat frost]

Season 4: Part two: Part two: Part two?

[humble birch]

pre-university role is for high school and below?

[tiny saddle]

yeah

[hearty shard]

Anybody up of a minecraft manhunt game 1.16.5

[bronze pelican]

Yea

[iron iris]

yay!!

very silly channel

but i learn stuff that i wouldve never thought about

[bronze pelican]

Yeah its great

[neat lintel]

How many people

1v5?

[tiny saddle]

[bright hill]

something very hard: $\chi_E$ where $E$ is a vitali set

[fathom swallow]

DarQ

[deep mango]

[split pawn]

ryc!

[amber orbit]

i also skip proofs of theorems

[storm sage]

Now give me an example of a Vitali set

:)

[bronze wedge]

nonseparable spaces

[bright hill]

tbf, the existence of non lebesgue measurable sets pretty much depends on the AOC

so

[bronze wedge]

under BPI there are non-lebesgue measurable sets

[tall minnow]

VMM what college are you aiming for

[neat lintel]

Hey

[surreal sapphire]

it also depends on powerset

personally i support choice, but am strictly against powerset

[bronze wedge]

not sure yet

[ashen pike]

wdym by that, out of curiosity?

[surreal sapphire]

its just a shitpost

[bright hill]

[velvet dagger]

Does axiom of union truly make sense if you think about it?

Choice is obv fine

But like

You can't combine two sets and expect to get just a union, what if something happens to the elements?

If I take a union of sodium and chlorine I get salt outta nowhere you feel me?

[surreal sapphire]

one could seriously argue against powerset

from a finitist-like standpoint

at some point sets just get too big

you really gonna tell me that i can just keep creating bigger sets by taking powerset?

[velvet dagger]

Yeah I've gotten to at least 2^{2^{2^{2^c}}} just a couple weeks ago since I was bored in a car ride

Like I counted all the elements

[storm sage]

inside every model of ZF lives a model of ZFC+GCH :)

[idle slate]

My favourite arbitrary maths opinion is that c = aleph-2

[alpine kindle]

my opinion is that c = aleph_1/2

no i will not be elaborating further

[sonic sentinel]

whats the max number of cardinals in between a0 and c

[idle slate]

There isn't one.

IIRC, the only constraint on c is that it is not aleph-[limit ordinal]

[sonic sentinel]

?!

so you're saying it can be a_omega+1 but not a_omega

[scenic dust]

Boma noite

[idle slate]

Ah it is subtler than that, I misremembered

[sonic sentinel]

i have no clue what this means

[idle slate]

It seems there is a concept called cofinality, which I don't know much about, and that c must have uncountable cofinality, ruling out c = aleph-omega.

But c could equal aleph-omega_1 where omega_1 is the first uncountable ordinal.

(So I was incorrect in saying it was limit ordinals)

But what the paragraph above shows is that the only cardinals which can be ruled out are those with countable cofinality, so arbitrarily large values for c are possible

[neat lintel]

I have a very interesting game I created 2 years ago that has a ton of math in it, is incredibly easy to understand, has higher level strategies, and doesn't have a clear solution yet, and I don't know if it fits here but I'd love to share if anyone's interested! I'm calling it "Serpents" for now because it sorta looks like a pair of snakes but I'm sure there's a better name.

[swift sinew]

Sure, go for it

[neat lintel]

draw an 8 by 8 grid

then, the second player chooses a starting position anywhere but the center square

then, the first player chooses a position anywhere.

From there, the first and second player take turns moving one space in any direction.

when you or the other player has been in a square before, you cannot go to that square again.

the first player who cannot move (i.e. they are blocked in all directions) loses

[swift sinew]

Oh that seems fun

[neat lintel]

it's a ton simpler than chess, you don't always tie after a few games like in tic-tac-toe, and the game has an incredible number of possibilities

[swift sinew]

Go vibes

[neat lintel]

note: if you are the first player, you cannot be anywhere diagonally or x-y symmetric with the second player because they will mirror you and you will lose

also if the first player went right next to the second in that first column they would lose

AND if the second player could choose a position in the center squares player 1 would lose

so player 1 has sort of a handicap but placing second lets them be reactive

this is incredibly easy to code but i have no idea how to train an ai

[swift sinew]

I feel like if you place your piece in the same quadrant as theirs and closer to the center but still close to them, you’re much more likely to win

[neat lintel]

not necessarily

if the first player is closer to the center than the second but not too much closer the second can play differently

and the more rules are imposed on starting positions the worse it'll get

crazy idea would be making it non-euclidean (right of the right = the left side and above the top = the bottom) but that invalidates a lot of cool strategy in the euclidean version and would make it probably actually take 64 turns

early strategies i found when playing: you want to set up a group of squares your opponent can't get to but you can, sorta dividing the field up. you very very rarely should go down a 1-tile hallway created by your opponent

i bet there's a ton more math involved in this than what i can see but i don't really know yet

oh btw this is rly funny the original reason i created this game was because the game where you draw 64 dots and draw boxes between those (and get points for the boxes etc etc) took forever and drawing 18 lines is way simpler and easier than 64 dots

so i highly suggest trying it out on your own or with your friends! one very interesting element here is how easy it is to instantly lose when you move the wrong way so be careful about that.

and it's VERY fast, the moment you know you two won't interact again you can just count the number of squares your lines can trace on each side and you're done, no more thinking and you can go to the next one

[abstract lion]

Just fun parametric curve equations changing
https://youtu.be/Od2LtykGj8w

[fervent zephyr]

I think the go vibes are because you're trying to claim territory while denying it to your opponent

Just very different way of claiming it

[molten flint]

Is anyone at Oxford university here?

[slim flax]

How do y'all explain what a derivative is? I mean my classmates can apply all the rules fairly easily but they don't really understand what a derivative even is or why we would derive a function.

[torn willow]

First order error approximation

[leaden torrent]

functions are hard

linear functions are easy

wouldnt it be nice if every function was linear

alas they arent

but we can pretend they are (in a way that's perfectly accurate at a given point) and still determine some behaviour based on that assumption

the derivative is used to construct this linearization; it corresponds to the slope

[leaden torrent]

for example, we might want to know where a function of one variable is increasing or decreasing

for linear functions, this is super easy: look at the slope

if its positive, its increasing; or else its decreasing

the derivative gives us the slope of the best possible linear approximation

each value of this approximation is only guaranteed accurate at a given point

so we can't look at whether a function is increasing at, say, x = 6 and say anything about x = -5

for example, f(x) = x² is increasing near 6 but decreasing near -5

but since the derivative is tied to a given point, we can use the derivative to determine regions where the function is increasing/decreasing

the derivative of f(x) = x² is 2x

the derivative corresponds to the slope of the linear approximation at a given point

and recall that for linear functions (and therefore our linear approximation), positive slope = increasing and negative slope = decreasing

so we know, when 2x is positive, f(x) is increasing

and when it's negative, f(x) is decreasing

obviously 2x is positive when x is positive, and negative when x is negative

so f(x) is decreasing for negative x, and increasing for positive x.

now f(x) = x² is a function that's super easy to sus out this behaviour just visually

but:
(a) it's nice to have a formulaic way to do this, since in the "real world", math isn't done by a human drawing graphs, but by a computer/calculator running algorithms
(b) we can leapfrog off this observation to ask and answer far more complex questions

as a simple example: most quantities in elementary physics are derivatives of another quantity

e.g. velocity is the derivative (rate of change) of position, and acceleration the derivative of velocity

this should mesh with the "best linear approximation" idea. obviously a "real car" doesnt perfectly move at 80 km/h, there's variance; but when we measure the speed of a car, we might approximate it as 80 km/h by measuring the speed (AKA slope AKA derivative of its position) at a given moment in time (point)

and simply say "we're currently travelling at 80 km/h"

when in practice youre probably hovering somewhere around 79.5 and 80.5 or whatever, gradually going a bit up and down

[tiny saddle]

Namington's crash course into derivatives, part (1)

[leaden torrent]

this is basically the motivation for all of intro calc

now just read attached

and you know it all

[tiny saddle]

[charred terrace]

hmm...suddenly have a thought
how to find the intersection of multiple cosine function, like the intersection of 10 cosine functions? or more?

i found that i cant solve the "scary" equation with multiple equal signs

[long matrix]

assuming they all intersect at the same place...?

[charred terrace]

yes...i want the "place"

collections of intersection points intersecting all functions

[long matrix]

im telling you they almost certainly dont

apart from maybe 0

or something

if they are centered

[charred terrace]

🥺

[brittle socket]

Hi shuwwi

I eat you

[long matrix]

in any case, just use some bot to do the computations

grass, shush

[brittle socket]

Nah just use shuwwi as my cat-computer

[charred terrace]

[charred terrace]

so sad quq

[hasty leaf]

Woof

[neat lintel]

Can u like

Provide the thing u r doing

[hasty leaf]

Sounds like bat computer lmao

[tiny saddle]

wtf

cursed

[hasty leaf]

Grass computer then

[tiny saddle]

[long matrix]

gwass gwass

[low grove]

How does your guys' math programs differ?

[tiny saddle]

Depends on what u mean by "maths programmes"

[neon elk]

Gonna start with calculus this week.

[low grove]

I mean like what topics you go through.

[solar hawk]

Which one

[neat lintel]

Where to start cs

[mellow imp]

haskell

[young wharf]

hello

[obtuse umbra]

hello

[young wharf]

HRU

Hru*

[obtuse umbra]

fine

[young wharf]

Good for you

[obtuse umbra]

Hru?

[young wharf]

I am great

But I am bored

[obtuse umbra]

I am free.
Can I talk you?

[young wharf]

Sure

[obtuse umbra]

I live in Japan.
what do you live in?

[young wharf]

I live in Canada

I like the country

There is a lot of stuffs to do here

[young wharf]

Manga world sounds like a really fun place too

What do you normally do there?

https://tenor.com/view/japonya-japan-flag-japan-gif-23459943

[obtuse umbra]

I often read Manga and novels

and,I study English,math,science.

I like syogi and chess.

[young wharf]

I love chess

I think it is a great way to work out our brains 🧠

[young wharf]

Do you like them?

[obtuse umbra]

yes!

[oak hound]

Let me know if you wanna play

[obtuse umbra]

What manga or novels do you know?

[young wharf]

Ahh sorry for late reply

[young wharf]

I watch popular ones

And read em too

[young wharf]

Bet I got you

[oak hound]

What’s ur rating

[obtuse umbra]

Sounds nice

[young wharf]

I watch like Boku no Hīrō Akademia

Or even one piece

[obtuse umbra]

I know this manga

[young wharf]

I'd say 6-7 out of 10

I still can't beat the hard bot in chess . Com

He always does un expected moves. 😭

[oak hound]

I mean like elo

[young wharf]

I also read Kimetsu no yaiba

I love this one too

Ohhhh

[obtuse umbra]

I have this Manga

[young wharf]

Lol

[young wharf]

I am a

Like good intermediate

Between advanced and intermediate

[oak hound]

alr dm me

Tell me ur username

[young wharf]

In the inches?

Ichess*

[young wharf]

Do you like it ?

[oak hound]

Yeah

[young wharf]

ISCI_ON_TOP

[obtuse umbra]

I love it!
I like Shinobu!

[young wharf]

I do too

[oak hound]

It said no result

[young wharf]

Huh

But it is my account

.

[obtuse umbra]

I am sad that Kimetsu finished.

[young wharf]

Do they will start a new season in April 9

[tall minnow]

better than overstaying its welcome like so many other shounen series (cough)

[young wharf]

Oh wait

U ARE TALKING ABT THE MANGEEE

YE

I watch the anime 😄

You should watch animes too

[young wharf]

Lol

[tall minnow]

many other shounen series have a good beginning
and then just refuse to die until they get axed

[obtuse umbra]

Manga is finished.
But, Anime will starting

[young wharf]

It's outrageous the fact that each time they face an upper rank the pro demon slayer of the chapter either gets killed or gravely injured

[tall minnow]

well it's better that way
humans vs demons after all

[obtuse umbra]

I will watch a new seasons.

[torn willow]

Well the characters can survive

[tall minnow]

if you want humans just winning all the time read / watch isekai stuff (cough)

[young wharf]

☠️

[young wharf]

That's great

I think so April 9

I watched 1 episode and the man's were dancing on a man's head.

Bro I was curious

And my cousin insisted xdd

Yeah it makes sense

[obtuse umbra]

Anime is great because character move!
Manga is nice. but Anime is nice!

[young wharf]

Yessir

https://tenor.com/view/demon-slayer-tanjiro-kamado-gif-24924207

[tall minnow]

it's harder for an anime to be good because you require excellence of many different people (animators, composer, voice actors etc)

so you will more likely see many good mangas that never get adapted (or adapted well)

[young wharf]

Uh hum

one piece

It has over 1040 episodes

[tall minnow]

[young wharf]

And manga goes crazy

[torn willow]

Well the adaptation was bad before wano

[deep mango]

[young wharf]

I have never heard of holy land 😳

[tall minnow]

yeah there are many messed-up / adult seinen manga
that will probably just stay manga

[young wharf]

I am at wano but dunno what holy land is

[torn willow]

8/24 minutes was just recap+ opening + ending

For many episodes

[tall minnow]

read it a long time ago

[obtuse umbra]

What time is it in your country?
We are going to eat lunch.
I'd like to talk to you again sometime.
Bye.

[tall minnow]

lol Otoyomegatari still isn't finished

[obtuse umbra]

It is early.

[tall minnow]

another example of something that will probably not get an anime soon

[young wharf]

Lol

[tall minnow]

every panel is a work of art and decor

[young wharf]

It's 00:00 here in my place in Canada.

[obtuse umbra]

I can't stay up that late.

[young wharf]

Ye I should go to bed rn

Bye you guys

Have fun in your daily activities

[obtuse umbra]

Thank you!

[young wharf]

True

[tiny saddle]

Bruh

[vast surge]

Maybe try to find an older student in the department who's already done them and ask them for advice? Different schools tend to put different things on their quals, from what I've seen in my where-to-apply-for-grad-school research.

Also check to see if your department offers any academic support for students studying for quals. For an example that I was just looking at, the University of Iowa has a 0 credit-hour course called "Math:5950 Qualifying Exam Preparation Seminars".

Oh nice

Wait you're going to be a first year next semester?

If so you don't need to take your quals coming in. I'm definitely going to give the algebra and real analysis quals a go wherever I get in upon entry, but I don't think there's any expectation

Oh then don't stress it

Oh okay

That seems a bit unusual

From what I've heard

Which quals are you taking?

If it's algebra then reread d&f or lang, if it's analysis then reread rudin r&c or whatever

Definitely try to talk to someone in the department

I'd ask if you could send me the info so that I could give it another pair of eyes but if you don't want to doxx yourself that's fine too

Right now I've decided to give myself the most computationally tedious bs problem ever in order to make a point in something I'm writing

So I need to compute the Fourier series of $f(x)=\left{\begin{matrix}\sin(2x)&\quad&x\in[-\pi,0]\2\sin(10x)&\quad&x\in[0,\pi]\end{matrix}\right.$ which is just kind of gross

Huh the latex bot didn't do anything

[tiny saddle]

@fathom swallow

It's online

[vast surge]

@fathom swallow

[tiny saddle]

$abc-1$

Bro 💀

[coral bison]

rip texit

[vast surge]

Oh slowmode might be fucking with texit

[echo tundra]

Why is slowmode enabled here

[vast surge]

There were some trolls on discussy 1

[tiny saddle]

We don't talk about that now do we

[ashen bluff]

i gust goind end this is wat i see

[tiny saddle]

[timid gale]

could someone explain me how 'reading projects' work

and suggest me something topic(that might be cool) i could try(exploring phase)
should be something cs/logic related since those are the only profs who are likely to accept me

[cinder zephyr]

So the ones I’ve done have been with grad students

I’m doing one on algebraic complexity

And I’m reading papers he suggests and presenting the proofs to him

Just weekly

As far as topics, what CS stuff have you done (idk logic)

[haughty lintel]

welp just failed calc 3 exam 🫠

[cinder zephyr]

Happens

[timid gale]

few coding courses and a graph theory

[haughty lintel]

[timid gale]

prolly not ideal for a reading project

[cinder zephyr]

You could try doing some algorithms stuff but that’s quite broad

Oh oh complexity theory could be cool

Stuff like hardness reductions and such

Kinda broad but if you’ve never done it and a prof will work with you on it, could be neat

[timid gale]

wouldn't i have to take a course on theory of computation

[cinder zephyr]

Idk ask the profs you want to work with

[timid gale]

right, thanks for ur input

[cinder zephyr]

If the profs have strict prerequisites then that limits your options but idk what options you have

[timid gale]

my classmates seem to have way more connections, and some are joining a type theory project, and the rest are doing graph theory(kinda hard to follow his earlier courses i took). The prof who does type theory(lenient prof), does all kinds of logic, so might as well join with them
But I'll take a look at complexity before requesting a prof

[cinder zephyr]

If you like logic, type theory would be quite cool

I don’t know logic, but know some complexity, hence I recommended it

[worn hare]

cos 60 = -cos 120 = -cos 240 = cos 300 -> can someone explain how to get this if i want to know what other forms cos60 is equal to :P

[river moon]

just look at unit circle

the horizontal axis (x-axis) is cos(x), the vertical axis is sin(x)

the exercise is to come up with the relationship in terms of pi to get all possible angles such as 60, 120, 240 degrees (but in terms of pi) which have equal value of cosine

[long matrix]

gah

[hasty leaf]

Woof

[vernal token]

Are the advanced channels particularly inactive?

[eager reef]

what do you mean

[vernal token]

Well, it feels like the average time to get an answer in the math help channels is around 3-10 minutes, while the average time to get an answer in an advanced channel is 20-70 minutes, lol

It could be that it's so far down on the channel list that you have to scroll, some people don't notice them
The help channels are at the top

[eager reef]

no it's that there are more people capable of answering HS questions

[vernal token]

Yeah, that probably too, I would say the scrolling has a small effect too, though

[eager reef]

I don't think so

[solar hawk]

Yes

[vernal token]

By the way, do the "Analysis", "Topology", ... roles give you access to additional channels like the Advanced role does or are they only to show others what you specialize in?

[eager reef]

The latter

[vernal token]

Alright

[hybrid crystal]

What is the Power of a circle?

[woven whale]

at least 4 power

[fathom swallow]

eigenzan

[hybrid crystal]

I did not understand

[rocky shuttle]

Neither do we

[long matrix]

9001

[tender vine]

Sharp

[rocky shuttle]

What?

[molten flint]

I proved da Riemann hypothezis fam

What you saying my breader?

Wag wan famalams

[surreal sapphire]

go troll on another server.

[austere scaffold]

no way give this guy mod instantly

[frank orchid]

https://github.com/Mathics3/mathics-core Is this a good idea to use?

[wooden hill]

what is that?

wait

did u make this?

this is amazing

this is jsut what i was searching for!

wow!

[tiny saddle]

[lofty temple]

??????? how can something be to the power of one?????????? it would jus be "S"

[wooden hill]

LOL

FOR REAL 😤😤😤thjat guy must be dumb 😔😔😔

[gaunt sail]

I just found something really cool for equations like this y=4/x*2. In the X position of the number that you are dividing (4 in this case) the Y will be 1/ what ever number you are multiplying X by (2 in this case) which is 0.5. And it is the same when you look at the Y position of the number you divide by the X will be 1/ what ever you are multiplying the X by!

In class we are learning about relations and functions

so after some messing around with graphs that's what I found

it's crazy how many cool things you can find

https://www.desmos.com/calculator

put the equation y=4/x*2 in this and you'll see what I'm talking about

you will have to put the x and y using the keyboard they give you otherwise it won't understand that it is an x or y.

[thick spruce]

is there a symbol for comparing things that don't really make sense to compare

like 5 vs hamburger

would you just use ≠?

or like infinity vs infinity for a more practical case

I feel like infinity≠infinity is kind of weird but saying infinity=infinity is also not great

(if we're thinking of real numbers, since infinity isn't defined on the reals)

or if you have like 5>4 and divide both sides by 0

[lofty temple]

that* lol

[wooden hill]

yeah thank you bro we really showed that man 🙏🙏🙏

[frank orchid]

https://github.com/Mathics3/mathics-core Is this a good idea to use?

[torn willow]

Didn't you already get your answer that "it doesn't really matter what software you use"

[frank orchid]

Oh....

any other better ones?

[torn willow]

Depends on your goals ig?

[frank orchid]

This isn't working on my device!!

[torn willow]

Ah