serious-discussion

[surreal sapphire]

this should teach you that its important to read theorem statements precisely

also that this isnt enough

[tiny saddle]

oh

[surreal sapphire]

and this answers @hollow onyxs original question

[tiny saddle]

now to understand why the theorem even works

[surreal sapphire]

(oops, didnt mean to ping drak)

wikipedia probably has a proof

[torn willow]

I wonder if Wikipedia has incorrect proofs for something

[tall minnow]

unlikely

math wiki often has pretty high quality

probably not very accessible to new learners but usually a good review

[tiny saddle]

nani

Eyo???

the smell of controversy

hmmm

[nocturne tusk]

@flat harbor @alpine kindle hi i am overwhelmed in discussy 1

[alpine kindle]

🫂🫂🫂

[flat harbor]

helo what u need is a nice calm discussion 2

[nocturne tusk]

that is indeed what i require

[flat harbor]

its aprils fools im thinking abt what diabolical scheme i can plot for my discord entities

[nocturne tusk]

oh it is i forgot about that

what tomfoolery can i commit

[flat harbor]

i havent been Aware of annual events since christmas

valentines just went past... dont wanna let the clown day happen like that

[nocturne tusk]

it is my mothers birthday in 5 days

ive asked what she wants 4 different times

and she hasnt told me

[flat harbor]

then ure justified in giving her a starbucks coupon

[nocturne tusk]

i will buy her some daffodils

she likes daffodils

[flat harbor]

thats amazing

[nocturne tusk]

and probably an amazon giftcard

i didnt get her anything for mothers day cuz i was uh

at a cub scout camp thing

[flat harbor]

if i was a mom i dont think id expect gifts it wuld be great to receive them but id rather enjoy a phone call once a week or smth

[nocturne tusk]

well i kinda live with my mother so

that wont really

do much

[flat harbor]

mmm

[haughty lintel]

Well I’m failing my mom lmao

I maybe call twice a semester

[flat harbor]

i dont think i called that often either

but if u remind urself abt it then might as well as ukno

[haughty lintel]

True true

[flat harbor]

i think last week i called after work

told them abt what i do and that i love them and it was nice

[nocturne tusk]

ill try to call my parents at least once a week when i move out

idk im terrible at phone calls

[flat harbor]

if its too often then it gets a bit awkward

but u get better at them ye

i dont pick up phone calls if it isnt from my parents either

[nocturne tusk]

my brothers im better at cuz they both use discord so i can just send a message in our gc

[alpine kindle]

how do i april fools

[nocturne tusk]

we occasionally organise playing videogames

[flat harbor]

discord with family...

[nocturne tusk]

its swag

[flat harbor]

games with family........

[nocturne tusk]

theyre both like

competent with computers

[flat harbor]

unimaginably swag

[nocturne tusk]

one of them is a developer

[alpine kindle]

for what

[nocturne tusk]

just a

web firm

[flat harbor]

neat

[nocturne tusk]

they work for age partnership

if uve heard of them

hes head back end developer

[flat harbor]

super neat

my sister treats me as indian tech support

she uses a macbook and doesnt know hoe

[nocturne tusk]

thats

something im scared of

cuz i took cs

people will ask me

t ofix their compiuters

[flat harbor]

can u fix my computer for me its running super slow and super loud and smtimes it crashes a lot can u fix it ure a computer scientist right

[arctic grove]

racist....

[alpine kindle]

gaslight them into thinking you didn't take cs

[nocturne tusk]

i know how to normalise a database to third normal form i dont know how to make chrome run faster

[alpine kindle]

no

[flat harbor]

i escape all accusations by reminding u that im an indian nationalist

[flat harbor]

its ok thats kinda cool

[alpine kindle]

i am a nationalist for the great nation of null island off the west coast of Africa

[flat harbor]

purest form of nationalism is for a nation uve never been in before

[alpine kindle]

did you know it goes up to 6th normal form

[nocturne tusk]

smth about like transitivity and atomic stuff

[nocturne tusk]

it does but that is not covered in the a level

[flat harbor]

oooh words

[alpine kindle]

yes i know

I'm doing the a level

[nocturne tusk]

im so so sorry

y12 is

fine

there is no NEA

[alpine kindle]

don't be sorry

[nocturne tusk]

but the fucking

have you done the sdlc topic

[alpine kindle]

sdlc?

[nocturne tusk]

system development lifecycle

[alpine kindle]

i don't know the acronym

oh uh

[nocturne tusk]

system analysis stuff

[alpine kindle]

is that like rda, waterfall, spiral

[nocturne tusk]

thats what i started y13 with yea

but in year 12 its just

hold on

[alpine kindle]

yeah we're literally doing the dev lifecycle and database stuff right now

[nocturne tusk]

have u seen the diagram for it

im trying to find the exact one but i cant find it

[alpine kindle]

there's more than one diagram

[nocturne tusk]

1 sec

similar to this one

i hate that topic

so much

[flat harbor]

oh boy

[alpine kindle]

that's a really bad development workflow

[nocturne tusk]

thats what

the year 13

NEA

is based off

doing a project

following that cycle

[alpine kindle]

i thought you were supposed to do RDA

[flat harbor]

do ppl even like ever care abt this

[nocturne tusk]

and writing

fucking way too much

documentation

[alpine kindle]

which is like
iterative

[nocturne tusk]

rda?

[alpine kindle]

rapid development something

wait what exam board

[tiny saddle]

"evaluation" --> "disposal"

Nice

[alpine kindle]

are you doing

[tiny saddle]

A levels

[nocturne tusk]

fucking

wjec

[alpine kindle]

L

[nocturne tusk]

but the english branch

eduqas

[arctic grove]

indian nationalists are the biggest racists

[tiny saddle]

wjec?

[arctic grove]

Checkmate

[nocturne tusk]

wjec is the welsh exam board

[alpine kindle]

F of the highest degree

[tiny saddle]

ahhh

[nocturne tusk]

my school picked it cuz the NEA is more like

[alpine kindle]

i am so sorry

[nocturne tusk]

objective mark scheme

but that just means

you do a really fucking boring useless project

[tiny saddle]

my condolences

[nocturne tusk]

in a dead language

[alpine kindle]

very very sorry

[nocturne tusk]

i dropped out this year

didnt do fucking

[alpine kindle]

what

[nocturne tusk]

any of the nea

retaking next year

[alpine kindle]

i see

[nocturne tusk]

so theyll let me do it in python

instead of vb

[alpine kindle]

vb?????

[nocturne tusk]

yeah....

[alpine kindle]

that's horrifying

[hasty leaf]

Good

[alpine kindle]

that must be illegal

[nocturne tusk]

but also that might mean

i need to learn more python

like the libraries the yuse

i think they use tkinter?

[alpine kindle]

at least you aren't using visual basic

[hasty leaf]

For UI yes

It's a pain thou

[nocturne tusk]

i think my school has a few libraries they want us to use

numpy, matplotlib, and tkinter

[hasty leaf]

Reasonable

[nocturne tusk]

but fuck i havent done python in ages

idk if its just cuz i have a mentally ill brain

but i can

never fucking remember

the dataa strucutres

lists tuples dictionaries

or whatever

[hasty leaf]

Then start doing something fun

[nocturne tusk]

i think i need to

go over some stuff again

then i want a project

something to make me actually

apply OOP

cuz rn its just sorta something i know of but have never used

[regal night]

anyone know tikz? :"}

[hasty leaf]

You could do it the other way around use a problem or project to motivate your learning

[surreal kindle]

What is that?

[regal night]

it's.. a latex package that lets you draw simple figures

[nocturne tusk]

quick question regarding the OOP thing

[regal night]

i'm surprised you didn't know

[nocturne tusk]

I'm just curious about actually applying it

would a use be something like

class button

[regal night]

build a fraction class. it covers most of the basics.

[surreal kindle]

And how come Sherlock holmes need that?

[nocturne tusk]

attributes size colour text

[regal night]

check #latex-help

[nocturne tusk]

methods click

[hasty leaf]

Ye but those built in

[regal night]

yea that's a fair description of oop

[hasty leaf]

You wanna make your own classes

[regal night]

the latex-help channel is so inactive

[hasty leaf]

And model a problem in a way that is simplified by OO approach

Think of a racing game with a car class

What are the methods of the car?

What are the properties of the car?

[nocturne tusk]

one way I tried using it was

idk if I can explain it cuz it's based off uh

a Minecraft game mode

are you familiar with the pit

on hypixel

[surreal kindle]

Lol

Nostalgia

[nocturne tusk]

listen

I was bored

I tried to make

an enchant simulator

[hasty leaf]

We are listening

[nocturne tusk]

you get

a sword

or pants

or bow

and you can enchant it 3 times

so I tried to have a parent class just called item

then 3 subclasses for pants bows and swords

with their separate enchant lists

but idk I felt like doing that without OOP would have been not much slower

[hasty leaf]

Functional approach has been trending of late

[nocturne tusk]

idk if i still have it

[hasty leaf]

Can be done either way

[nocturne tusk]

it might be on my other laptop

[hasty leaf]

Find it and reuse if permitted lmao

[nocturne tusk]

i think its on my laptop

but idk where my charger is

[hasty leaf]

Would they allow pygame or ursina

[nocturne tusk]

theres

specific requirements

[hasty leaf]

Eeek

[nocturne tusk]

the idea is you have a client with an

outdated system

that needs to be replaced

[hasty leaf]

Feels artificial

[nocturne tusk]

yeah most people make up their client

and make fake questionnaires and iterviews and documentation of the old system

its so fucking redundant

[alpine kindle]

ours is based on choosing a vague problem that doesn't have a specific solution
and then programming the solution

[hasty leaf]

You aren't going to be able to use kick ass libraries like in IRL programming

The project maybe lame

[alpine kindle]

you're allowed to use libraries and stuff

[nocturne tusk]

the one extra thing i think ill try and add just cuz why not

is hashlib

for password encryption

cuz i wanna learn how all that works with like

is it called salt?

whatver that is

[hasty leaf]

Yes

Salting the hash

[nocturne tusk]

however my teachers really dont like it when i add literally anything extra

[alpine kindle]

that's their fault

not yours

[hasty leaf]

I had that experience too

[nocturne tusk]

they tried to replace my code when i used a uuid generator instead of just repeatedly incrementing a single number for item IDs

[torn willow]

Well for uni/school problems, paradigms do not matter

You do not really solve real problems

[nocturne tusk]

i said before they made me use the

did u call it singleton?

whatever that was

[hasty leaf]

Ok this part is to simulate requirements gathering and system analysis...why not interview something real lmao

[torn willow]

Singleton is an antipattern

Basically you do not want to use it

[nocturne tusk]

well they didnt teach me how to actually create a new object whenever a user wants one

so

[torn willow]

You do not

You just have a static this pointer in the class definition

[nocturne tusk]

could u elaborate a little please

[hasty leaf]

Might as well not do OO if it's singleton...do functional

[nocturne tusk]

but then i get less marks...

[torn willow]

https://stackoverflow.com/a/8906840

[nocturne tusk]

must use complex data structures for this simple project that doesnt require any complex data structures...

[torn willow]

Well that's CS undergrad

Well atleast the part that covers data structure and algorithms

[nocturne tusk]

they teach the theory of data structures

and then just expect us to

implement them in the project

[torn willow]

Yes that's how it works

[nocturne tusk]

which ig is fine

but like

[torn willow]

You want to know why you care?

[nocturne tusk]

no i get theyre important

but

i kinda would like to know

how to make

a doubly circular linked list

[torn willow]

Well imagine a doubly non circular linked list

Now just like make head->prev be last node

And last->next be head

[nocturne tusk]

i dont even know how to code a normal linked list

i think

isnt there a class for the current node

idk i forgot most of this stuff

i missed the lesson they taught linked lists my entire understanding comes from a random youtube video i watched once

[torn willow]

Well what properties should a list have

A list should have nodes

And each node should somehow be connected to the neighbouring node

So you want a value and a "pointer_to_next" thing

Now like play around with insert and delete functions

And it should be self evident

https://leetcode.com/problems/design-linked-list/

https://leetcode.com/problems/design-linked-list/solutions/1341264/c-code-with-explanation-fastest-cleanest-without-memory-leak/?orderBy=most_votes

This is a complete implementation of a Singly linked list

[tiny saddle]

Mfw leetcode

[hasty leaf]

Yeet code

[torn willow]

Leetcode is better than undergrad cs classes for learning algorithms

Except when you have like an exceptional cs program

[hasty leaf]

Ig it's like Wikipedia...mass adoption making it indispensable

[nocturne tusk]

i think i will just

not use a linked list for this project

thats effort

its a HS level CS class so id imagine just anything other than array counts as a "complex data structure"

[torn willow]

Well you can use integer with a custom order

[torn willow]

Linked lists are a measure of "can you write C"

They aren't really a good data structure per se

Well they have their uses in places you expect the least

But in general they are not the best solution to a problem

[cobalt star]

Is morpheme count is a good measure to determine how much information a piece of text contains? Are there better measures?
pinging @leaden torrent because i suspect he has a good answer

[leaden torrent]

Uh

Interlinguistically no

Within a language, maybe? Unsure

At first glance I'd be concerned about, for example, pro drop languages

And topic centric languages

But maybe over large enough samples it averages out that it doesn't matter

Still I wouldn't be surprised if there's differences in morpheme counts between 1st and 3rd person writing despite no change in information amount

Not in English but likely in other languages

[cobalt star]

i can see that

do you know of a reliable measure to quantify information

[leaden torrent]

Unfortunately no

That isn't to say one doesn't exist

Just that I'm not familiar with it

You'd have to check the literature yourself

[cobalt star]

thanks!

[leaden torrent]

Sorry for the not helpful answer lmfao

[cobalt star]

not your fault you took time to type up an answer

[leaden torrent]

Fwiw I know that morpheme density is often compared crosslinguistically

There's a famous result that, if you remove purely grammatical constructs, speakers of different languages tend to communicate the same number of "meaning morphemes" in the same time

(which results in speakers of e.g. Japanese talking much faster on average)

(as in like, faster syllables)

This is often interpreted to mean "spoken languages communicate information at the same pace"

But I am not 100% sure how valid this interpretation is

[hearty shard]

Am i banned

[empty blaze]

Hello good nights cool people 😄

[leaden torrent]

Bans in discord boot you from the server

So no

[lament lynx]

why does it server unvaible

help

[slim shale]

.

[slim shale]

I have this too

@lament lynx bro I think we should leave and return on this server to fix it

[lament lynx]

what

[velvet dagger]

I have no idea what's going on

[woeful locust]

Same for me

[final wren]

Cause too many people using it

lol

[sharp cave]

lmao someone is trolling with the names

"msword-equation-editor" that is good trolling

[alpine kindle]

we're trying our best
read #changelog

[loud rivet]

It's so fucking annoying

Oh yay

Alright finally worked

[pearl lily]

what is happening to the channels

[prisma barn]

hello, why is the server photo like this?

[rocky shuttle]

we're trying to fix it
read #changelog

[prisma barn]

Okay thanks

[pearl lily]

Oh

I thought it was aprils fools

Hehe

[pearl latch]

https://tenor.com/view/clueless-gif-24395495

[foggy mason]

Nice april fools :P

[proper tartan]

Derivative is with respect to V

That’s the mark for the limit

[languid sigil]

Well this chat is drad

[gentle prawn]

I thought, this hacker does know it's math...

[bright locust]

||Its April 1st||

[pearl lily]

April 1st?

[lean radish]

anyone have the pythagoras proof without the trig identities

[gaunt crypt]

hello

[latent sage]

Uu can prove it visually

[fathom tendon]

Are the channel names an April Fools thing or something

[void tundra]

no the server is corrupted

[fathom tendon]

tragic

[still solar]

BADASS

[fathom tendon]

me when 1^infinity = e

[blazing silo]

[gilded sluice]

I wonder what the audit logs look like on this discord server

I was aboutta mention that they'd be completely full of "channel renamed" because of channel names becoming "corrupted" and then "uncorrupted"

but I guess it would be full of that anyway with #❓how-to-get-help

i guess now it's also full of "server profile picture changed" with all the s they're adding

[valid monolith]

bruh

[undone wren]

The bot filter is still on 😔 i thought it was gonna be turn off so that we could have the 87th low quality discussion about the intelligence quotient

[random cargo]

Anyone down to study with me , I do CS , Maths and Business A levels, year 12😁?

[undone wren]

You must be 13 ir older to be here pal @random cargo

[random cargo]

I'm 17

💀

[undone wren]

I thought you meant you were 12

[random cargo]

😭

[neat lintel]

Learn to independently study

[random cargo]

Alone is boring AF

[neat lintel]

If you can't independently study don't go to university.

[spare igloo]

Finished the top level logic of the GPU core, this ones quite big. Time to do much testing lol. Just super excited for that. It should be able to get around 1 and a half floating point operations per cycle and is nicely pipelined to utilize a wide range of DDR memory busses and caches.

[random cargo]

Just heard explaining stuff to people is good for revision?

[neat lintel]

You can achieve the same thing by writing notes.

[random cargo]

Currently on my 2weeks holiday from school which started today, plan on literally grinding maths from now on

[radiant pivot]

and you see this

[neat lintel]

I pretty much taught myself a large percentage of Calc with minimal effort, barely any time in school.

You don't need other people.

[random cargo]

The problem I realize I have is that , ik how to do question only when ik exactly what topic I'm doing

But I struggle in exams as I dk what to use

[random cargo]

Going to start logs on Sunday ☺️

[neat lintel]

An easy concept that can be boiled down to just a few notes.

log(ab) = log(a) + log(b) ,
log(a/b) = log(a) - log(b)
log(a^r) = r*log(a)

[grizzled grove]

So guys how did you like my April fool prank ??

[neat lintel]

Thats all there is.

[random cargo]

Dk what this even means lol

[neat lintel]

Know exponent laws?

a^bc = a^b + c ?

[grizzled grove]

Nanite that's not all

[neat lintel]

It's related to that.

[random cargo]

Another problem I have is that I stay up late and usually only sleep like 6 hours a day

[neat lintel]

I know I only discussed base-10 and missed base-n and base-e

[grizzled grove]

Is log 5 irrational?

What about that

[neat lintel]

Depends on the base used

[grizzled grove]

I am using e base

[neat lintel]

Yes it is irrational

[grizzled grove]

How?

[neat lintel]

No idea, haven't really gotten into proofs

I don't need you to explain it.

[random cargo]

Wait guys can I use CHATGPT for revision, by asking it to create certain maths topic questions?

[neat lintel]

No\

[grizzled grove]

If you want to fail. Yes

[random cargo]

😂

[grizzled grove]

I cannot

[deft lodge]

Calm

Dirichlet

[random cargo]

What would you guys recommend would help me get better at maths , don't just say revision

[deft lodge]

be more specific

why do you wanna get better

[random cargo]

Cause next year I will sit my exams which decide what uni I go to

[deft lodge]

bro revision is literally the only way to get better at exams

ur given a syllabus

its the only thing you really can do

[random cargo]

Yeah but like are there certain sites

I can use for questions?

[tawny bloom]

wolframalpha

[random cargo]

A big problem I have noticed is that when I don't get something I just look at the answer and pretend like "oh yeah u do that, I would've got that"

[grizzled grove]

This is dangerous. I failed many courses because of this

[random cargo]

My aim is to attempt a question that I don't understand in all the possible ways I can think of, rather than just skip to the answer

[tawny bloom]

Do some similar questions after you look at the answer to see if you really understand it

[rancid meadow]

Essentially you need to do enough problems until you can recognize the patterns so that this doesnt happen

[grizzled grove]

Unless you can explain a child you did not understood yourself

[rancid meadow]

that's a bad heuristic but probably works in the case of being in highschool yeah

[random cargo]

😭 another day of only 5 hours of sleep, I need to fix this if I want to revise

[rancid meadow]

You should sleep more 👍

[random cargo]

Yeah good idea

[rancid meadow]

It's better to study less and sleep like a normal person

the grindmentality doesnt do that much

[deft lodge]

^

[random cargo]

Currently all I do is waste time on TikTok

[rancid meadow]

well that's not good

average highschooler tho

set a screentime limit on ur phone or something

that works for me

[grizzled grove]

Don't worry. You'll get bored of it

[rancid meadow]

You won't

it's designed so you never get bored

it's magic really

[random cargo]

I plan on letting my friend create a password for the screen time lock thing

[rancid meadow]

that's a lot

[grizzled grove]

Tiktok videos aren't magic

[rancid meadow]

I think you should set a screentime and teach yourself self-control so you don't bypass it

Algorithm is magic

[grizzled grove]

Humans only make videos. Can't get interesting after certain point

[random cargo]

Currently during a school week I spend like 8 hours on my phone a day, it's insane.

I want to narrow it down to 3 maximum

[rancid meadow]

there is so much interesting stuff out there

yeah i got to 8hrs once

immediately set a screentime lmfao

i dont use tiktok but twitter + discord did it for me

[random cargo]

Weekends averaging 12 hours😭

[grizzled grove]

I enjoy discord much more than tiktok

[rancid meadow]

jesus

[random cargo]

How do I set a screen time?

[rancid meadow]

do you have an iphone

i have no clue how to do it on other OS' but on ios its just in the settings

settings -> screentime -> set a limit

[deep mango]

Why are you white

[grizzled grove]

Thousands of apps

[rancid meadow]

surely android has this built it

[rancid meadow]

someone removed the yellow and I don't like the VA colour

[deep mango]

It's more fitting

[rancid meadow]

yeah

[deep mango]

Not in a bad way

[random cargo]

Google pixel gang

[deep mango]

Just like

[rancid meadow]

unclear why the yellow was removed but i have lots of opps on the mod team

[deep mango]

I feel like things are back to normal now

[rancid meadow]

yeah

well no

i've been yellow for so long lmao

also i dont like that the role is like off-white

its just subtly not white

annoying

[deep mango]

It will only feel normal when im very active blue again

[rancid meadow]

u can always get removed from yellow

tbh i should just become a discussion poster again

maybe not today. too active

[deep mango]

It's fixed

[rancid meadow]

swag

oh can u just do that

[deep mango]

That feels way better

[rancid meadow]

reserve mod

[deep mango]

Yeah reserve mod

[rancid meadow]

wow this is like

this is like 2021 vibes

[deep mango]

Haha

[rancid meadow]

we didnt have VA then but

same energy

[deep mango]

I guess it is isn't it

Yea

Back when I didn't have a responsibility to the server

[rancid meadow]

ya

[deep mango]

I could just show my whole ass and it was expected

[mellow helm]

bruh

[rancid meadow]

still like that for me

[mellow helm]

albert on tiwtter was matan

[rancid meadow]

i guess my opps just didnt like it

[deep mango]

Hmm

[rancid meadow]

yeah this was hilarious

[random cargo]

Last Sunday I apparently spent 12 hours on TikTok alone

And 5 hours on other apps

💀😭

Thank God I added the timer now

[deep marsh]

hello guys

[deep marsh]

12 hours in one day?

[random cargo]

Yeah

[deep marsh]

omg, that's a lot even tho i have done that before but in other apps 🙂

[random cargo]

Yeah but now I'll only be spending 3 hours max on my phone a week

[deep marsh]

that's cool, especially you downloaded the timer, it's good way to manage your time

why was the server down for sometime, you guys?

[random cargo]

Got hacked

[neon elk]

To set up the ultimate troll.

[deep marsh]

ahh ok

[round jungle]

discussy...

https://cdn.discordapp.com/icons/268882317391429632/24b64762a0e88a785656c13f2c1c6eae.webp?size=160

and this server icon

...

[tardy barn]

Lol

[lament hearth]

i love math so much

[radiant pivot]

much love

[mental whale]

if math was so good why didnt they make a math 2 ???

[fervent pebble]

this is the only reason im not mod

there is no other explanation

[kindred sleet]

what happened to the server?! It doesn't look familliar at all

[rancid meadow]

Hacked

[kindred sleet]

I see

[rancid meadow]

err sorry

outage

discord issues

shitty company

[kindred sleet]

But at least we can still help people

[rancid meadow]

Yeah

at the core it's a homework help server

[wooden kernel]

Can anyone help me with solving separatrix separation

[mental whale]

math mods are working very hard to fix probelm

[neat lintel]

Problems don't always help

[rancid meadow]

They do if you're in highschool.

[neat lintel]

You should learn to derive the product rule, quotient rule,

[rancid meadow]

What an odd comment

[neat lintel]

and chain rule

[rancid meadow]

Is the only math you know calculus

This person didn't mention calculus once

Yes you should learn the concepts. The best way to do it is to do problems.

does that help?

[round jungle]

yall both right tbh

problems help with noticing the pattern but sometimes people need a more indepth explanation of the concept before they get it

i also might be completely misreading the context though

[rancid meadow]

yeah it didn't make sense in the context of the conversation we were having + odd thing to ping me over

i guess they just wanted to list all of the calculus facts they knew, idk

[neat lintel]

Rote learning doesn't entirely work.

[rancid meadow]

are you a robot

[neat lintel]

If you are learning by rote you don't put the effort into actually understanding the concepts.

[rancid meadow]

I don't understand like..

okay

👍

[amber orbit]

lol

[mellow patio]

im i can take either linear algebra or differential equations next year

which should i take?

[compact shale]

discussy

pretty sussy

[rancid meadow]

linear algebra

[mellow patio]

im going into comp sci btw

[rancid meadow]

you'll find it more relevant in the rest of your life/math you study

[mellow patio]

ok

[rancid meadow]

yeah definitely LA lol

[mellow patio]

ok

[neat lintel]

Don't take diff unless you are fully comfortable with both Integral and differential calculus

You may also be thrown into PDE's

[mellow patio]

ok

[neat lintel]

Which means you should be familiar with multivariate calculus, which also means you should be familiar with linear algebra.

[mellow patio]

mk

yea linalg def the way for me

[neat lintel]

A lot of these is based in vectors, and matrices.

There is many youtubers who are Professors who cover this subject.

Diff-equations aren't that hard once you develop the initution for the tools used to solve them for example integral calculus allows you to find a function defined by the anti-derivative of a function. This anti-derivative is a potential solution to a differential equation.

Other notation for an anti-derivative is an indefinite integral.

[mellow patio]

yea

i've taken through ap bc

tho bc's been a struggle

just trying to figure out to do w/ap stats my senior yr

[neat lintel]

Why has BC been a struggle?

[rancid meadow]

BC sucked when I took it. Whats a polar equation. No one knows.

Linear algebra will be a core course in your CS degree

you most likely won't need to touch diff-eq and if you do it will probably be one of the easiest math courses in your degree

[neat lintel]

Polar equation, you mean a function which defines itself in the polar coordinate space? Where some trigonometric functions have undefined results due to a number of reasons?

[rancid meadow]

Please don't define a polar equation for me

😭

[neat lintel]

... Think unit circle.

theta = angle
r = radius of the circle.

[rancid meadow]

It's okay, really

[mellow patio]

polar equations, remembering all of the integration rules, and junior year in general

my Autism/adhd fueled gifted kid days are coming to an end

[rancid meadow]

Better now than in first year

[mellow patio]

i mean yea

and like they’re still technically goin

like i’m still gonna end school as valedictorian with more credits than my schools history

[rancid meadow]

(almost) everyone hits the wall at some point where u have to start thinking really hard

[mellow patio]

and i just won a national robotics award

and so like

idk

[rancid meadow]

thats cool im proud of u

[mellow patio]

just stress and mental health

[rancid meadow]

ya

[mellow patio]

kinda gone down the gutter this year

[rancid meadow]

some call this burn out

[mellow patio]

which came to a head when i realized my course registration was due 35 min ago

and needed to be handed in in person

so minor panic attack

plus this math class is gonna be virtual learning which sucks

[neat lintel]

Jesus, everyone seems to have a disorder these days...

[mellow patio]

like i’m already doing my second math class virtual this year

[rancid meadow]

is your school not fully back in person

[mellow patio]

we are

[rancid meadow]

idk how highschool works these days

[mellow patio]

but we’re small

so we have to be part of this network called MSON

for more advanced courses

[rancid meadow]

are you doing courses at a local CC or anything

ah

[mellow patio]

like this year i’m taking an Mson in mathematical modeling approaches to social justice which is cool

[mellow patio]

nope they don’t allow us to do that

[rancid meadow]

thats fucked up

[mellow patio]

and the main curriculum is challenging enough as is

[rancid meadow]

my highschool they would let you but it was like "introduction to car mechanics" or whatever lol

[neat lintel]

A useful skill.

[mellow patio]

bc i’m taking bc and then for english and history junior year we have to take this course called american studies which is a 2.0 credit 90 min/day course

it’s intense

but it’s rlly eye opening

[rancid meadow]

its good 2 get pushed in highschool

evne if u need to do it artificially by taking like 10 courses/semester or whatever

lots of people breeze thru and then get murdered by 5 courses/sem in uni

[neat lintel]

Schools drill plug-and-chug that is why.

[rancid meadow]

Are you 34

[neat lintel]

The students don't actually understand what they are doing.

[mellow patio]

not rlly?

school for me is like none of that

[neat lintel]

Professors make many complaints about how under prepared students are coming out of high-school.

[mellow patio]

like even in chem we memorized like nothing

[rancid meadow]

this is broadly true unless you're in a place with a nice curriculum

[mellow patio]

has the entire periodic table each test

bc they wanted us to actually learn the science

not just memorize elements

same for our advanced physics class

[neat lintel]

Advanced physics class? "Define advanced"?

[mellow patio]

it’s two ap calc based physics courses in one

in all but name

bc the teacher didn’t want to be bound to a curriculum

[neat lintel]

Again "define advanced"

[mellow patio]

that’s just what the course is named

[neat lintel]

What was it's contents?

[mellow patio]

like senior calc based ap physics

well it started with vector analysis of motion and a bunch of other mechanics stuff now it’s electricity and magnetism

basically the ap physics c courses

[neat lintel]

Did it involve contour integrals on the complex plane or something simpler?

[rancid meadow]

lmfao

[neat lintel]

Mechanics a lot of it is simply multivariable calculus, vector calculus, and most of that is done in the 3D real-number plane.

If you are going into "electricity" and "magnetism" unless you are dealing with contour integrals I wouldn't call it complex.

Which are typically used for Maxwells equations.

[mellow patio]

no mvc stuff

once again it’s a high school level course

[neat lintel]

Not what I'd call advanced physics then....

[rancid meadow]

😭

[mellow patio]

i’m sure it isn’t

it’s to differentiate it from our physics course

which is taken by 9th graders

and is so watered down it can barely be called basic physics

[neat lintel]

Glad I'm 25+ and don't need to do school.

[rancid meadow]

Figured

[mellow patio]

eh school is fun

[fresh stag]

school >> adulting

[mellow patio]

friends and electives and extracurriculars and learning

[neat lintel]

I was barely in school. for a large percentage of my life, because I was more interested in what was outside.

[mellow patio]

like i don’t wanna be an old grumpy jaded adult

tho i’m already 3/4 of the way there to that

[mellow patio]

fair

i spend most of my time with my robotics team tbh

or in debate

[neat lintel]

Compressed an entire 12 year school period starting at the lowest levels of math.

I knew nothing at the beginning.

6 months, screwing around bit of study here there got to Calc 1 passed with no prerequisite schooling. Understanding Calc 2 moving onto Calc 3

Reason being I actually saw a "use of it"

Translation I don't need the education system to succeed.

Too me school was a waste of time.

[mellow patio]

yea esp when you can make 20k a month by being ur own boss

[neat lintel]

Currently studying radio-frequency theory, with the goal of designing wifi-networks, degree specialization in Cyber-warfare.

[mellow patio]

nice

[rancid meadow]

neat

[mellow patio]

u in college rn?

or self taught

[neat lintel]

Uni

[mellow patio]

ah

[neat lintel]

Technically CS, but I pull triple time outside of the degree.

[honest slate]

bro a menace for real!

[fresh stag]

@neat lintel cant tell if u are senile old man or 13 years old

[neat lintel]

And that ranges from reading - Biochemistry, Physiology, Energy production theory, Machine Learning, Programming (C++, C, C#, Java), Calculus 1,2,3,4, Linux Systems programming, I have a lot of time on my hands and I just consume.

Definitely not 13.

I probably should do a PhD, but the pay is abysmal.

[tall minnow]

Why do you think you can do a PhD

[fresh stag]

ok nanite you said you were studying rf right?

tell me what this circuit is called

[neat lintel]

CWNA currently, nothing fancy.

[fresh stag]

i ask nothing more

[rancid meadow]

battery

its a battery

next question

[neat lintel]

No,'

[rancid meadow]

fuck

[fresh stag]

hint its not

[neat lintel]

Type of an opamp.

[fresh stag]

well it’s something related to op amps thats the hint

[neat lintel]

Clearly generates a type of waveform.

Analogue in nature.

[fresh stag]

but u really should be able to answer this if u are studying anything related to ee

[honest slate]

it's a map to find the treasure

[fresh stag]

yes spout more trivial words

that will convince me of u credibility

[rancid meadow]

why yall so mean

[neat lintel]

RF theory as in Diffraction, Scattering, Reflection, Absorption, etc.

[rancid meadow]

i think its a battery

[neat lintel]

More related to what I do in Wifi-network engineering, rather than creating a circuit.

[fresh stag]

it really isnt

[rancid meadow]

are you sure

[neat lintel]

I can understand the underlaying sub-carrier theory behind OFDMA and OFDM.

As thats more important in what I do than building a carrier signal generator.

[rancid meadow]

idk this guy sounds pretty credible to me

[fresh stag]

ok ur studying communication theory without having any circuits classes at all

kepp in mind this is a completely basic op amp circuit

[rancid meadow]

man why are you trying to big dog someone on a math server

dont embarass urself

[neat lintel]

Oh signal amplifier.

That makes perfect sense now.

[fresh stag]

its has an omp amp it better amplify

but ur answer is unfortunately unacceptable

[rancid meadow]

hey rahulthegr8 you're on a math server right?

[neat lintel]

Yeah thats not what the sort of signals theory I am interested in.

[rancid meadow]

tell me what this diagram is for

[honest slate]

physics

[neat lintel]

I have a book on electrical engineering I'll get to it.

[honest slate]

for real!

[rancid meadow]

You're not far off.

[tall minnow]

It's probably fair that if you go online to boast you can do a PhD you should be prepared to back it up

[fresh stag]

well i don’t claim to study commutative algebra

[rancid meadow]

man who cares

[rancid meadow]

theres no comm alg here

[fresh stag]

and i don’t make claims about studying 15 different subjects on my own

[rancid meadow]

yeah but which one of you is being more annoying right now

exactly

[neat lintel]

It comes down to the time invested vs actual returns. It makes zero sense to do a PhD grovel for grants and earn probably less than a network engineer or software engineer does in your life time.

[honest slate]

🍿

[neat lintel]

I've weighed up the pros and cons of that.

[tall minnow]

Maybe you being 3rd wheel adds to the circus as well

Also lol grovel for grants

[neat lintel]

Many many students regret doing a PhD.

[fresh stag]

i just got a little triggered about him boasting his ass off

[tall minnow]

Go on. Tell us your PhD wisdom

[honest slate]

ykw gets me really mad

[rancid meadow]

what Kure

speak to it

lets hear him out

[honest slate]

him using periods on discord

[rancid meadow]

LMAO

[honest slate]

that really grinds my gears

[neat lintel]

Give a good reason to do a PhD?

[honest slate]

https://tenor.com/v0PX.gif

aw man

[neat lintel]

Apart from academia?

[honest slate]

no gif perms

[tall minnow]

No. I want to hear what you think phd is like

[brittle socket]

Lol classic discussy

[rancid meadow]

he's gna dunk on you !!

he's doing a phd and he's MAD about it

[rancid meadow]

we're so back

[brittle socket]

So back?

[honest slate]

i love roblox

[neat lintel]

6 -7 years of your life forming the foundations of the specialization you focus, on often working for professors that either conduct research centered around what they do, or you end up doing derivative work which has no use. You focus on one narrow field, be it physics, engineering, chemistry, and typically form a very narrow focus. Some get jobs in large companies being paid well but this is the exception rather than the rule.

[next schooner]

yeah you definitely shouldn't do a PhD if it's gonna take you 7 years

[honest slate]

how long does a phd normally take

[tall minnow]

I only cared about maths but thanks for telling me about other fields as well

[honest slate]

BRO USED THE CORRIN SIP EMOJI

[next schooner]

I'm finishing up my PhD and have some regrets but none are financial in nature

[tall minnow]

Anyway as Obama said, please proceed governor

You have the floor

[rancid meadow]

yeah but imagine the oppourtunity cost

[honest slate]

omg youre the dude that goes to u of a right

[vivid halo]

good thing the tech job market is so healthy right now

[next schooner]

I'm not a capitalist pig grifter

[rancid meadow]

this is copium

[vivid halo]

this is sarcasm

[neat lintel]

Not really.

[rancid meadow]

i know

im still calling it copium

[vivid halo]

okay

[honest slate]

nvm youre not that guy

it was someone else

[warped creek]

People are so weird when it comes to PhDs >_>

At this point I’m gonna start ignoring advice

[neat lintel]

Because there is such things as PhD farms

[rancid meadow]

phds are lame and for nerds

[honest slate]

for real!

[warped creek]

Cool

[rancid meadow]

every phd student is depressed and sad and weird and has some vice

such as posting on discord

[tall minnow]

They also tend to like anime

Unbelievable

[honest slate]

why

[rancid meadow]

no thats just you

[fresh stag]

maybe thats just you

[tall minnow]

Or DnD

[neat lintel]

Anyone with a semblance of a life wouldn't be a PhD and on discord...

[rancid meadow]

no ng im not mad that im industrying out

[neat lintel]

They do not have the time to scratch their backside.

[vivid halo]

definitely not!

[next schooner]

I am finishing a PhD

I have plenty of time to shitpost

[rancid meadow]

they're even a discord mod

[neat lintel]

PhD in what?

[next schooner]

Math

[neat lintel]

Particular field?

[tall minnow]

PhD in shitposting about PhD should be a thing

[next schooner]

Mathematical biology broadly speaking

More specifically simulation techniques for reaction diffusion advection systems

[rancid meadow]

doesnt count

[tall minnow]

Are you groveling for grants

[honest slate]

ha that sounds made up

you cant trick me

[neat lintel]

Ah fun, numerical integration problems.

[warped creek]

Math discord really is a toxic place to be

[next schooner]

I do not grovel for grants

[honest slate]

for real

[next schooner]

I got a scholarship and haven't had to worry about funding whatsoever

[neat lintel]

So what do you hope to do with your biological simulation degree?

[next schooner]

I don't plan to do anything with it

[honest slate]

simulate biology

[next schooner]

I'm leaving academia to go into teaching

[neat lintel]

Be sure to join r/Professors

[honest slate]

damn

[next schooner]

What is that

[honest slate]

personally i would not let that slide

[neat lintel]

Reddit for professors by professors

[rancid meadow]

its a Reddit.

[tall minnow]

I only use Reddit to shitpost about politics

[warped creek]

Reddit is still a conservative platform to me

[next schooner]

Professor in which sense of the word

[neat lintel]

Have fun dealing with students who refuse to study and using chatgpt to do their assignments.

[rancid meadow]

this is insane

what

how

have you ever used reddit

[tall minnow]

Dang Nanite now you also have experience with being a professor

[warped creek]

Yes I have and yes there are options but when it comes to meeting redditors in real life they are typically conservative

[neat lintel]

Just read the rants from professors

you'll get the gist.

[rancid meadow]

i love nanite i think we should keep him around

[fresh stag]

you must be in australia or something if u think reddit is conservative

[rancid meadow]

this is doubly insane

[warped creek]

Have I had bad luck or something

[rancid meadow]

isnt it like a top five msot popular social media app im pretty sure most people are redditors in some sense

yeah

i think you just meet a lot of conservative people

[next schooner]

Ah you mean professor in the American sense of the word

[neat lintel]

Also partially owned by the CCP

[rancid meadow]

man you just have banger after banger

[tall minnow]

I read the rants of a president for 4 years so I guess I'm a president now too

[warped creek]

How do I stop this from happening?

[honest slate]

bro brought in the ccp

[next schooner]

As a general term for teachers?

[warped creek]

Fr i get no breaks

[rancid meadow]

dye ur hair and wear a tshirt that says "soy libcuck" or something idk

[tall minnow]

I hereby declare you guys call me president Delerik

[honest slate]

hello president Delerik

how much can you bench president Delerik

[next schooner]

Anyway unlike your cynical ass I have actually worked for quite some time in high-school classrooms rather than just reading about it on reddit from disgruntled redditors and I'm quite happy with my career choices

[rancid meadow]

rat bite

[honest slate]

OMG I GET IT NOW

[neat lintel]

Cynical realist.

[honest slate]

HIS DISCORD USER IS RAT

[rancid meadow]

btw can u ban the guy in chill

[honest slate]

AND HE HAS THE ALBERTA FLAG

[tall minnow]

I can lift beautifully. More beautifully than anything you have seen. Everybody says I'm the best lifter

[warped creek]

I am also interested in how much president delerict can bench

[honest slate]

WHICH IS A RAT FREE PROVINCE

[next schooner]

No, you are not a realist, you haven't worked for a moment in a high-school but for some reason think you have meaningful opinions about it

[honest slate]

Wow very inspiring. What can I do to lift more like you?

[next schooner]

You are evidently a redditor indeed

[neat lintel]

I would never teach high-school students in the first place.

Ever.

[honest slate]

okay

thats cool

[next schooner]

Okay good for you king

[tall minnow]

The other day a lifter came up to me. And he was crying, telling me how much he admired me

Somehow people are always crying around me

[warped creek]

Everyone is so moved

Ur physique

[fresh stag]

can’t tell if ur doing biden or trump

[neat lintel]

Then why do you need to justify it to me if that is indeed true?

[next schooner]

What

[honest slate]

@next schooner Hello Rat

please say hi back

[next schooner]

Oh I see

[rancid meadow]

Still dreaming, in abbreviated email.

[next schooner]

You're doing the old "haha I insulted you and now you're talking back, how greatly I have offended and bested you, fool" thing

[tall minnow]

Well Nanite why are you here to justify why you will never do something

[next schooner]

Christ you're a real gem aren't you buddy

[tall minnow]

Are you convincing us or yourself

[next schooner]

Absolute pleasure to make your acquaintance

[neat lintel]

Why are you even remotely offended?

[next schooner]

I am not offended

[rancid meadow]

u did call his phd work numerical integration

[honest slate]

wats that

[tall minnow]

It seems that ultimately Nanite is here to convince himself

[rancid meadow]

its when you integrate but its hard so u just guess

[honest slate]

real

[rancid meadow]

but you guess really well

[neat lintel]

That is what they use is it not? vectors and numerical integration techniques for approximations, combined with other computational techniques? You can't exactly calculate these things directly they eat too much processing power up.

[fresh stag]

this man really enjoys putting together vaguely related terms into a sentence

[rancid meadow]

It's a bit like hearing someone has a phd in chemistry and saying "Oh, titrations, i get it"

even though that's all they do in those labs and you cant convince me otherwise

[fresh stag]

funnily enough he probably knows nothing detailed about them

[honest slate]

is that not what chemists do

[rancid meadow]

Sure bud

[warped creek]

Tonight’s interdisciplinary roasts are top notch

[tall minnow]

Oh physics is just...
Wait what is physics just again? How should we be reductionist about it

[next schooner]

I am however a mod and as such I do have an interest in making sure this community isn't turned to a toxic wastedump by dipshits like yourself who for some reason think they have anything resembling a well-reasoned and valuable opinion on things with which they have vanishingly little knowledge and even less experience

[rancid meadow]

Physics.. oh you mean free body diagrams? haha yeah that stuff is easyyy

[tall minnow]

Physics is just diagrams!

[rancid meadow]

no that's category theory

[neat lintel]

Do I? You don't use numerical reasoning with computational biology?

[next schooner]

What is numerical reasoning

[tall minnow]

You don't use diagrams for physics?

[next schooner]

I take it back you're not a redditor

[tiny saddle]

Physics? You mean pseudo math?

[next schooner]

You're from fucking quora aren't you

[rancid meadow]

Like when you add two plus two and it's four thats numerical reasoning

[tall minnow]

Damn Jesse good point everything is numerical

[next schooner]

True

[tall minnow]

Eventually

[tiny saddle]

Your existence is numerical

Numerical things are but concepts

[next schooner]

In any case most of what I do is based on stochastic simulation

[tiny saddle]

So you existence is fake

[honest slate]

numbers arent real theyre a conspiracy made by the government to make us question god

[next schooner]

Which is... not the same thing as numerical integration

[tall minnow]

Measure theory is just Greek numerics. Called sigma algebra.

[next schooner]

You aren't real you are a false prophet sent to quash knowledge of sacred numerology

[rancid meadow]

What do you call a mathematician who's in the gym all the time? A Sigma Algebro

theres a better version of that setup

im not good at jokes

sorry guys