serious-discussion

[void tundra]

https://github.com/discord-math/bot/blob/main/plugins/modmail.py#L140

ye

line 140

[vast surge]

That's why if you're just shitposting you should only fake DM the mods

[void tundra]

make a discord alt and call it modmail lmao

[vast surge]

I didn't get in trouble

[vast surge]

Oh my god that's amazing

[surreal sapphire]

amazing way to get banned

[bright hill]

That'd be less funny tho

[void tundra]

or make a discord bot and call it modmail

or just use modmail in your own server

[vast surge]

Haha try to ping me now

[bright hill]

@vast surge

[surreal sapphire]

[brittle socket]

lol

[void tundra]

oof

[bright hill]

[void tundra]

you can use the id to ping the person exactly btw

the discord snowflake id

[bright hill]

That wouldn't show the joke doe, no?

[void tundra]

yeah

[bright hill]

Cringe.

[long matrix]

meow

[bright hill]

Shuri, wanna do homological algebra?

:3

[long matrix]

[bright hill]

Nacho bread?

[long matrix]

[vast surge]

Straight people do heterological algebra

which sounds far less fun

[void tundra]

damn i guess i cant do heterological algebra

:(

is there biological algebra

[vast surge]

Yeah but that's applied math

[void tundra]

oh no

[bright hill]

I dunno which i should do

:(

[void tundra]

do you mean it involves a calculator? shudder

just do bilogical algebra

[vast surge]

panlogical algebra

lesbilogical algebra

acelogical algebra

[void tundra]

can we invent those

just for the memes

[vast surge]

there's so many gay kinds of algebra

[void tundra]

imagine your textbook gets banned in a totalitarian dictatorship because of the word "homomorphism"

[bright hill]

[void tundra]

funnily enough

gallian 10th edition page 126

literally talks about turing

let me see if i can find a screenshot

pls dont sue me taylor & francis

[void tundra]

tbh if @quasi jetty tracks when the user first posts in a help channel and counts <15mins before a helper ping it can auto warn the user

or the helper ping can just be disabled and added as a bot feature like .ping helpers or smth

[long matrix]

make a pr then

[void tundra]

when i have time

altho tracking the original message time in a database is less ideal than tracking it in redis

actually

[long matrix]

huh

the bot should look for the last helpers ping or pinned msg when helpers ping is invoked

[void tundra]

yeah that

or rather disallow pinging helpers and use the bot to ping helpers

damn if I make the pr i dox myself tho

oh ill ask my friend to submit it ez

[long matrix]

cant u make your gh anon

???

depends what uve put ig

the email can be made private

[void tundra]

i can just make another github account

[hasty leaf]

You can under a different email

I got two but different emails

[finite vessel]

hi, I like math and Iam a newbie

[surreal sapphire]

hi

[alpine cargo]

yo any suggestion for a research topic undergraduate?

[mint canopy]

Whatever suggestion your research supervisors give you

[fleet oyster]

this is wild

asking for convergence at a single point

[obsidian parrot]

Why inequlity changes

squaring on both sides on positive intergers will not change inequality right

[fleet oyster]

that's not why it changed

[obsidian parrot]

oh

Please tell me why

[fleet oyster]

n went from denominator to numerator

[obsidian parrot]

so if something went denominator to numerator

[fleet oyster]

you can square both sides, multiply both sides by n

then n will be on the right hand side

and gone from left hand

so you will end up with something < n

[obsidian parrot]

I still don't understand, after squaring i will end up

how to use latex here please tell

[fleet oyster]

ok if I abbreviate 1.96 0.3x0.7 and 0.031 by a b and c respectively

you have asqrt(b/n) < c

square both sides

a^2 b/n < c^2

[obsidian parrot]

ok

[fleet oyster]

a^2 b < c^2 n

[obsidian parrot]

ok

[fleet oyster]

(a^2 b)/c^2 < n

[obsidian parrot]

ok i am an idiot

[fleet oyster]

you can only do this because everything is assumed to be positive btw, just saying

[obsidian parrot]

oh

ok the question says lesss than 0.031

so inequality shd be > but why <

[fleet oyster]

?

[long matrix]

this is best asked in a help channel btw, but continue

[obsidian parrot]

I am sry bro

[fleet oyster]

what did you not understand with my process

[obsidian parrot]

I have asked a question 2 days still pending @long matrix

[obsidian parrot]

Bro, I understood, you are great teacher

Like what i dont understand is, Like in question it says the proportion is less than 0.031

right

[fleet oyster]

idk what proportion is

[obsidian parrot]

so inequality must be > (against 3.1%)

right

[fleet oyster]

what

[obsidian parrot]

In this attachment, the inequality is in the side 0.031

Ok i am sorry

[fleet oyster]

what do you think x < 0.031 means

[obsidian parrot]

I understood

The error in the estimate is less than 3.1 which mean 3.1 is greater right

thanks bro

Thank you so much

😢

Can you help me with one more question please, which had been asked before 2 days

PLEASE

[fleet oyster]

!help

[quasi jetty]

Please read #❓how-to-get-help

[obsidian parrot]

Yes I asked it before 2 days

nobody helps me

That's y i am begging you

[fleet oyster]

ok? we help for free

nobody owes you

[obsidian parrot]

Ok, yes

[obsidian parrot]

I mean yes for this

[obsidian parrot]

I know that and i got nothing to say about it cause its true statement, all i can ask, and beg, thats all

[wooden flax]

just had real coffee for the first time in my life

im shook

[neat lintel]

what do you mean by real coffee

[static loom]

kids been sippin rational coffee this whole time

just wasn't quite getting the complete picture

[little vine]

Tried to go to a complex coffee shop

It was closed

[wooden flax]

real = non instant

like with a filter

[cinder zephyr]

Instant coffee can be great

Just buy better quality instant

[wooden flax]

ive used only nestle

[cinder zephyr]

And there's a better way to make it (albeit it takes a little more work)

Juan Veldez if you can find it is better

[wooden flax]

i just microwave milk and then add it to the stuff

[cinder zephyr]

Nestle sucks in general

[wooden flax]

or make dalgona sometimes

[cinder zephyr]

Shitty company

[wooden flax]

tbh it took like 5 mins to make the filter cofee

just had to boil some water then add it to the filter

that was basically instant ngl

but had 10000x better taste

[cinder zephyr]

What kind of filter coffee

Like pour over or a drip machine

?

[wooden flax]

idk

whats the difference

[cinder zephyr]

What was the device you used to make the coffee

Cause there's a huge rabbit hole of this stuff

[wooden flax]

it was like a filter over this chemistyr lab tube thing

volumetric flask

[cinder zephyr]

Chemex?

[wooden flax]

looks kinda like it

idk if its that brand

[cinder zephyr]

Nice

Those are cool

I'd say my next tip would be get better quality coffee

[wooden flax]

i see

[cinder zephyr]

That's probably the best thing you can do

[wooden flax]

nice

[cinder zephyr]

No amount of nice tools will make bad coffee taste great

[wooden flax]

icic

[cosmic coral]

@haughty sphinx

[tall badge]

evaluated between 0 and R

[storm sage]

you evaluate it at t=R and then at t=0 and then you subtract the one at R minus the one at 0

[unkempt patio]

50 cm (l) x 48 cm (w) = 2400 sq cm (a)

does it work that way?

[burnt ledge]

yes

[blazing anchor]

#linear-algebra

[void tundra]

that is NOT linalg

[loud rivet]

@buoyant carbon here I'll try to show you what I mean

So like

$$\text{div}(F) = \nabla \cdot F$$

[fathom swallow]

$e^{\text{Umbraleviathan}}$

[loud rivet]

For notation shit

If we wanna measure the flux across C

$\oint_C \text{Field}(x,y)\cdot\vecb{dy, -dx} = \int \int_R (\nabla \cdot F )dR$

[fathom swallow]

$e^{\text{Umbraleviathan}}$

[buoyant carbon]

okay

[loud rivet]

Which makes like

Sense

Because that's legit just Green's Theorem

[buoyant carbon]

yeah

[loud rivet]

And that is the LITERAL definition of teh Gauss-Green integral

Which we can bombard Fox with lmao

[buoyant carbon]

we can

[loud rivet]

Fox is gonna hate us

[buoyant carbon]

wait is it the actual def?

[void tundra]

I see contour integrals and I cry

[buoyant carbon]

i thought rotor was the literal def

this is a slightly messed around with one

[loud rivet]

Rotor is like

Uh

[buoyant carbon]

the actual def has Field.{dx,dy}

i need to learn latex dammit

[loud rivet]

Yeah

And then it's just

$\oint_C \text{Field}(x,y)\cdot\vecb{dx, dy} = \int \int_R (\nabla \cross F )dR$

[fathom swallow]

$e^{\text{Umbraleviathan}}$

[buoyant carbon]

yeah

this unit is cool

[loud rivet]

And that's again due to Gauss-Geeen

I have a lot of question to ask Fox

Because like

There's so many properties that just clicked in this unit

By far it's my favorite unit

But there's also this sticker

Which will make everything click apparently

Kelvin-Stokes theorem

[buoyant carbon]

interesting

is that this unit?

[loud rivet]

No

[buoyant carbon]

or the last one

[loud rivet]

Last one prob

Because we don't know spherical coordinates yet

[buoyant carbon]

i see

yo we'll learn how to do the thing

[loud rivet]

Literally all of calculus 3

[buoyant carbon]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/516760206869397538/1056228771872653352/redditsave.com_math_lore-31x7rl8qt3u81-360.mp4

[loud rivet]

$$\del$$

[fathom swallow]

$e^{\text{Umbraleviathan}}$
Compile Error! Click the reaction for more information.
(You may edit your message to recompile.)

[loud rivet]

Aww shit

Gonna fix that

Oh @buoyant carbon

Imma show you how to do preambles

You'll learn vicariously

Imma add div and curl

Go to uh

#latex-testing

[obtuse hearth]

so

uh

lets talk about

3x+1

challenge

😉

[violet wraith]

is there a concise way to symbolically say "for all integers $n$ between 1 and n"? for reals it's easy bc you just say $\forall x \in [a,b]$, but if you try using interval notation for integers, it may look like an interval over the reals

[fathom swallow]

can i be "budget ryc"?

[frigid matrix]

x in 1,…,n

[violet wraith]

are dots really okay? I've heard some people say to avoid using dots

[frigid matrix]

yes

[static loom]

it's better than like $\forall x \in [a,b] \cap \bZ$

[fathom swallow]

Merosity

[violet wraith]

true

alright ty

[fathom swallow]

Spamakin🎷

Spamakin🎷

[cinder zephyr]

so you should specify whichever you mean

and I think the first option is by far the most common

@violet wraith

[violet wraith]

hmm ic

[storm sage]

1,...,n is fine

[cinder zephyr]

also yea

unless you're using this ALOT

[fathom swallow]

Spamakin🎷

[cinder zephyr]

doesn't take much space at all

[violet wraith]

ok epic

[fathom swallow]

Spamakin🎷

[violet wraith]

yeah ok thanks guys

[worn garnet]

Has anyone seen this post ? https://www.reddit.com/r/math/comments/10izlyk/what_is_the_fate_of_bad_mathematicians/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

[amber orbit]

> what is the fate of bad mathematicians
death

[split oak]

Yes

[split oak]

An important question for people like me.

[coarse agate]

Personally I think it is hard to get a research job in math, the competition and the difficulty both. So imma probably go with engineering or a natural science in uni (a few months from now) just so I can have backups in case researcher in academia does not work out

[undone wren]

a bad mathematician is a decent engineer (assuming industriousness)

[frosty venture]

and a bad engineer is a decent mathematician

[worn garnet]

I mean there are tons of options outside of academia

[surreal sapphire]

very weird to not do a math degree simply because you think you wont get a research position

[worn garnet]

Besides the academic job market isnt that great even industry is looking rough if your not experienced

[sick kite]

A math degree is probably one of the best when it comes to work after lol

[worn garnet]

Unfortunately not having a degree dosent entitle you to a job

Most places want someone with experience

[sick kite]

I agree. That's not what I'm saying

[worn garnet]

I seriosuly wonder if going through gen eds can just make someone indecisive

Sounds like hes overwhelmed to be honest

[surreal sapphire]

most places also have starter roles... how do you think people with experience are created

[worn garnet]

Most places arent willing to take a junior nowadays

[surreal sapphire]

big doubt

they must sustain their workforce lmao

[worn garnet]

It makes sense given events post pandemic juniors are litetally an investment and places cant afford to hold capital

[surreal sapphire]

i see a lot of investments being done in my field

we have 6 open positions for new grads currently

[worn garnet]

What area is it ?

[surreal sapphire]

cryptography, embedded systems

though i have to say the hardware job market is very bad for recent grads

[worn garnet]

O.o can you dm me the place ill apply just finished and looking

[worn garnet]

To be fair hardware has a high barrier of entry considering you need lab stuffs

[surreal sapphire]

my boss has a recent master student doing thesis in industry

they refuse to employ him

and then 2 weeks later they talk with my boss and complain about not finding new people

[surreal sapphire]

uh, im in germany and unsure if the positions are public (yet)

[worn garnet]

Let me know when it opens ill still shoot my shot

My plan is just to work and grind more math/cs courses and uni hop

[surreal sapphire]

i have a math degree with something like a CS minor

originally wanted to do mathematical cryptography, but funding dictates doing more applied stuff for now

and at least cryptography (in germany) seems to have a lot of funding both from government and industry

[coarse agate]

Add to that the social pressure and the fact that the top universities have an intake of 0.1% of applicants

[frail lagoon]

What kinda unis are these lol

Bruh

[tight comet]

damn, spicy

[worn garnet]

We are talking about r1s

[coarse agate]

Of the place with the second largest population lmao

[frail lagoon]

I was gonna say is this India or smth lol

[surreal sapphire]

if you are really interested in mathematics, i would still just get a math degree

[worn garnet]

I mean there are people who have down terriable early on but later actually went into stem

[surreal sapphire]

this is likely the only chance you will get in your life to spend multiple years of your life doing mathematics

[coarse agate]

It is XD

[surreal sapphire]

and its not like this ruins your job chances, if you take care a bit

[worn garnet]

I at least want to get to through the grad sequence

I mean most ppl with grad level education are heading off to industry anyway

[coarse agate]

Tell that to my parents lmao. The viable alternative for me is a B.Tech. in Mathematics and Computing

[surreal sapphire]

oh ok

well, i dont know too much about india

[coarse agate]

Yeah fair

[surreal sapphire]

first world privilege moment

[coarse agate]

😂

[surreal sapphire]

though i didnt even tell my parents what im studying

[tight comet]

Reply to your parents that the global downturn will make your degree choice irrelevant

[tight comet]

Indian cities are pretty much first world

[coarse agate]

Honestly I have felt that that would be a problem

[surreal sapphire]

indian education seems ... subpar

[tight comet]

yes and no

[surreal sapphire]

i just applied to my university a day before classes started

[coarse agate]

Delhi, Chennai, Mumbai, Kolkata, some other big places maybe yes. The rest, not so much

[surreal sapphire]

and got in guaranteed

[tight comet]

if you're an JEE-A taker on the basis of skills you should be no worse

[coarse agate]

Had to mention that.........

[worn garnet]

Isnt JEE-A a difficult exam ?

[coarse agate]

Oh welp, I got my JEE Main day after tomorrow. I will just go back to studying

[coarse agate]

Depression is what it is

[tight comet]

It is. I think difficult exams do set some kind of standards for the people who take them

I mean, I don't think people are impressed with the american high school exams

America's education is in a sense even more high variance

[worn garnet]

I honestly never paid or put in effort in HS hated it to be honest

HS education America is inconsistent at best and depends on where you go

[arctic grove]

oof

all the best man! how you feeling

[coarse agate]

Thanks pal. I am trying not to worry too much rn. Just gonna go and do what I can. I feel I can get a decent score in this one, hopefully qualify for JEE Advance. However this goes, I know I can cover more syllabus and get a better rank in session 2. Yours is on 29th if I remember correct?

[worn garnet]

Good luck to you too

[arctic grove]

dw it will go great!

yeah mines on 29th

[worn garnet]

Serious question for those who have gone to grad school in here is my plan realstic ?I nearly have a 3.0 but want to further deepen my maths background by taking the grad sequence and other upper undergraduate courses

I want to eventually go to grad school but want to head into applied math areas like tcs or physics

But i like doing and learning pure math are my tastes misguided ?

[neat lintel]

Good luck.

[neat lintel]

Yeah, I live in America and true. Luckily I go to an IB school.

[worn garnet]

I honestly like the rigrous side of eecs/physics and tcs

[neat lintel]

Do you mind me asking which country you live in?

[worn garnet]

America

Want a wider math background before heading into grad school

[neat lintel]

So you are in college now?

[worn garnet]

No just finished

[neat lintel]

I suggest you head to the advanced mathematics channels below to prepare and gain knowledge. I mean I am just a HS student so don't know any websites for grad school level math.

[worn garnet]

Oh the question was for those who have gone to grad school lol

I am already aware of places that offer grad level courses

[split oak]

Not really, no. It seems to be around the level of background of the average American high school senior who wants to get into STEM.

By this I mean that the above-mentioned average high school senior would be able to easily solve around 80% of the exam.

[brittle socket]

based loch

[bright hill]

[brittle socket]

DarQ my AWS didn't work

Now its like a warden spawner

[bright hill]

Your Amazon web service?

[brittle socket]

Anti-Warden System

Time to spawn 200 iron golems to help deal with wardens

[bright hill]

OH

Sounds fun lmao

[brittle socket]

I was just joking the last part btw...

[river moon]

did this yesterday

[coarse agate]

Thanks, man!

[coarse agate]

Thank you!

[coarse agate]

Thanks a lot!

[arctic grove]

[void tundra]

we actually might have enough iron for this lol

wait we definitely do

[brittle socket]

Hmm well we could try to meme around and do that if we wanted

[void tundra]

it'll take forever to spawn them in

[brittle socket]

True

[void tundra]

alright

discussion is getting flooded

[long matrix]

meow

[zealous garden]

Who wants to join my minecraft server

The IP is: ||not doxxing myself||

[long matrix]

who wants to join mine

the ip is 127.0.0.1

[zealous garden]

με

That reminds me of the script I wrote

I called it doxx and put in my bin folder

Printed some BS name and 127.0.0.1 as the IP

[wary nexus]

bruh

thats localhost

[zealous garden]

Yes

That's the joke

Congratulations on catching it

[wary nexus]

and that ladies and gentlemen

is why you should always read the context

[rich grove]

could anyone help clarify this question? are they referring to "university major" or "studying habits"

because it follows a questionnaire on studying habits, but I interpret it more as "university major"

[neat lintel]

Very misleading question indeed, I would assume are talking about studying habits such as “It’s important to me that I have no distractions at hand and goal set for what to achieve on this topic …”

[rich grove]

because see just the way it is phrased.....

[neat lintel]

Confusing

[rich grove]

ugh this is what I get for applying to foreign universities lol

ah well, this isn't graded or anything

thanks for your help though!

I disagreed with your interpretation, but frankly I'm still worried I got it wrong, it's so ambiguous

[zealous garden]

yes

[rich grove]

oh thanks, that was enlightening

[zealous garden]

It makes almost no sense to choose to word it that way and mean studying habits, whereas that's a very common way to refer to your major

[rich grove]

that's what I thought ;-;

but this is in the middle of two questionnaires about studying habits lol

[zealous garden]

the context primes the misunderstanding like you said

[rich grove]

like you do one questionnaire, then this, then another questionnaire ;-;

[zealous garden]

so it was a question in between questionnaires then, not part of one of them?

[rich grove]

yup

though well

by questionnaire

I mean rows of multiple choice bubbles

and then I got a text entry

then more multiple choice bubbles

the multiple choices were all studying habits

the text entry is the studies question

this is all contained in one larger questionnaire

lmaoo with questions like this

[zealous garden]

Fail a test?

I'm not sure what that means

[rich grove]

yeah lol imagine doing that

I think I once got a C on a physics test because I wasn't paying attention during the one minute two weeks before the teacher mentioned the distribution of charges in conductive vs nonconductive solids

but other than that single test I don't have any regrets about at all hahaha :D

no regrets at all

[zealous garden]

I don't think I've ever bombed a test (There might be 1 exception, but that is lost to time)

[rich grove]

tell me about your metaphorical ignorance of charge distribution in solids

[zealous garden]

It's kinda, Either I don't care and I make exactly what I meant to make, or I do care and I get upset that I (i.e.) "only got a 92"

as for that test

AP Calc

I didn't get the AP Credit, I know the results didn't look good for anyone in that class, and the teacher has passed away so I can't ask him about the tests in the last 2/3 months that blend together

[rich grove]

i- what

[zealous garden]

he was Ill so the quality of the lessons deteriorated rapidly at the end, during the last few weeks of the year we had a substitute and kinda just sat in the class watching videos that weren't even math related

[rich grove]

ouch

he died from that illness?

or did you guys off him for subpar teaching

[zealous garden]

Cancer boss

[rich grove]

ouch D:

yeah that sucks

[zealous garden]

I normally would say more but this is hitting unexpectedly hard today for some reason

[rich grove]

it can be like that sometimes :/

[neat lintel]

Do you

just ever

think of what the world is

Especially when you close your eyes before you fall asleep

[inland raft]

Yeah

[zealous garden]

constantly

[woeful plover]

hi

is anybody in there

[void tundra]

no

[woeful plover]

oooof

[hollow lynx]

Could anybody tell me what is “e” used for in math? I watched some videos explaining how to find its value, but I still don’t get what is it used for in the real world and in math

[vivid halo]

it's mainly used because the exponential function e^x with base e has all kinds of nice properties that make it show up everywhere

for instance e^x is its own derivative, so it comes up any time a quantity has rate of change proportional to the quantity itself

[hollow lynx]

oh

I guess I’ll learn it in a year or two, but I was still curious to know it now

thx for the quick explanation

[vivid halo]

depends on the course, you can learn them quite early in some cryptography courses but in pure math courses you usually see them for the first time in abstract algebra

[vivid halo]

yes

[south kelp]

Depends on the college and/or how far advanced u r relative to your college's program

At Caltech there's a year long abstract algebra sequence with no prereqs so towards the third trimester of your first year you could be learning about field theory

[surreal sapphire]

depends also on the depth, i would expect any first year math student to be able to prove that Z/(p) is a field; any deeper theory should be covered in abstract algebra, though it could happen elsewhere (our discrete math class sometimes covers some coding theory)

[south kelp]

At my current school there's only a semester long sequence for undergrads and while you could technically skip straight to the graduate sequence you'd have to be insane to do so because the first semester of it goes from the start of D&F to field and galois theory (not including Module theory). It's an alright speed if you've already taken the undergrad course but being introduced to the notion of what a group is, etc. from that would be really hard. So I guess unless you've already had experience it's a 2md year thing at the earliest since the grad sequence's first part is only offered in the fall

[south kelp]

Maybe in other countries but not in the US kek

Most normie schools here have people starting off with calculus. And not the analysis Version.

I mean it's not uncommon to exempt all these math-for-engineers classes either

But it's not common either

Like deadass in my current school's program if you don't exempt anything you'll only even be doing proofs starting your 3rd year

[surreal sapphire]

i dont know how to tell you but i think you are getting scammed

[south kelp]

I cope by taking exclusively "graduate" level courses tbh lol

[surreal sapphire]

oh yeah, it seems like you specifically are doing alright

[surreal sapphire]

i would call this a scam if you sign up for a mathematics program

[south kelp]

Yeeeah it is but at the same time it's what most US schools are like. Thing is most schools don't even have enough talent to even have a proper pure math program cus they don't teach proofs even in the high school I went to which is literally the #1 ranked public school in the country currently and specialized in STEM 🤷‍♂️

Only prestigious schools like, at least Brown-tier have separate tracks for pure math studenta

[split oak]

What does "not the analysis version" mean?

[ripe wasp]

probably means that they focus on computation and not proofs or rigor

i.e. emphasizing applications like volume of a solid of revolution, related rates, etc.

[split oak]

Ah, makes sense.

thanks

[ripe wasp]

👍

[teal lion]

Well, you’re right in that US college is a scam

[split oak]

But the US has many universities of great repute.

[south kelp]

yeah it's weird. Kinda like how our healthcare system sucks but we have the world's best hospitals

our public university system sucks for pure math with a few exceptions (most of thoe exceptions being in california tbh kek, e.g. UC Berkeley, UNC Chapel Hill for a non-Californian example)

and private schools aren't guaranteed to be great for pure math either but the ones that are at least moderately selective (say, 20% acceptance rate) are decent

the more selective ones (~10% acceptance rate) are pretty good

and the super selective ones (5%<= acceptance rate) are the amazing ones

the problem with my current school is it's a public university with a heavy focus on engineering and a 46% acceptance rate

they even have to offer precalc and algebra classes for some dummies >.>

also for comparison, the school has over 20,000 undergraduates

my mathematical analysis II class (metric space topology, total derivative, implicit/inverse function theorem, that sorta shit), which isn't even required to graduate with a math degree, had 9 people total when I took it. And there was only 1 section offered. And one of those people was a grad student.

pure math is so scuffed and underappreciated here ;-;

The only reason this is where I'm going is because I have mental health issues that benefit from me being close to family and we live 10 minutes away from this school

[neat lintel]

im not reading allat 😂

[south kelp]

Otherwise I could be at Caltech. Although in all honesty while I did much more greatly enjoy the math department at Caltech that school is living hell and so I'm ambivalent about having left it

[south kelp]

green clover ur opinion is irrelevant

[neat lintel]

then just ignore me pls

[south kelp]

u couldve just not said anything then but w/e i dont wanna turn this into drama so i forgive u lol

[neat lintel]

thanks

[smoky lodge]

What cool maths related degrees exist?

[south kelp]

computer science for $$$$$

doing any other degree is insanity esp pure math

I say this as somebody who's a math major and who's primarily taken pure math courses

dont get me wrong even with just an undergrad degree you can make pretty decent money with pure math in industry but unless you graduated from a prestigious school or took a bunch of graduate level courses (actually maybe not even that depending on how mediocre your school's math department is) your job will noooot involve like any math at all

like you get hired for a job cus places respect pure math degrees and figure they're smart so they're easy to retrain

anyways if you actually want to do a job that involves math you most likely need a PhD at least

[vivid halo]

ehh not really

masters though

outside of higher level research positions industry doesn't care as much about PhD but does want to see some postgrad education

[south kelp]

idk I know somebody who graduated with a mediocre gpa that I tutored bunch and the most advanced math class they took was like a freshman year analysis course at other schools ("advanced calculus", etc.) and they got a job that pays $85k at an area with low cost of living 3 months after graduation

so I dont think you need a masters

[smoky lodge]

how much maths does computer science involve?

[south kelp]

depends on the college tbh

[burnt dune]

not much

third year cs undergrad here

[smoky lodge]

😦

[burnt dune]

but depends on what ur studying really

[south kelp]

a bunch of schools' CS programs are just actually software engineering degrees

[burnt dune]

if ur in a program where likee

the main philosophy is theoritical cs ur going to do a shit ton of math

if not ,usually, then yea ur just going to learn the basic cs stuff that will make you able to learn anything new

thats the point of it

• foundations

[smoky lodge]

I just finished a first course in Calculus and I had a ton of fun so I kinda hope to learn more things like that in uni

[burnt dune]

oh you meant that kind of math

then yea

[vivid halo]

after 5th course in calculus: I want off mr bones' wild ride

[burnt dune]

i learnt uptill fourier and laplace transforms

[vivid halo]

[burnt dune]

• discrete math

• basic abstract algebra and number theory for my crypto class

thats it

and no proofs

other than in discrete

(as in what i learned in uni )

[vivid halo]

crypto is funny because it's just AG over finite fields, but when you ask an AG person for an example they go "sure let's work over F_5" and when you ask a crypto person for an example they go "sure let's work over F_238428203458328943"

[burnt dune]

yes

that is true

i unofficially attended this ANT course with a professor who invited me to come

and thats how they thought

haha

[woven whale]

@surreal sapphire

[burnt dune]

but ellitpic curve crypto is p cool

[vivid halo]

it is yeah

[burnt dune]

i didnt know about the discrete logarithm problem at all

from the math textbooks

dk why

we stopped at the diffie-helman exchanges

just finished my sem yesterday

am i stupid if i cant understand lee's manifolds proofs first try?

[woven whale]

Lol you need to read the proofs? you don't just come up with them yourself right after reading the theorems?

[burnt dune]

never

especially with this shit

im new to diff geo

[woven whale]

that was sarcasm btw

[burnt dune]

and everything is just a magical map

hahaha

[south kelp]

also out of curiosity how prestigious does the pure math masters have to be to land you a job in industry that involves math? I still don't feel like any industry job is gonna make you use homologies or algebraic topology or w/e. Maybe if you took a bunch of classes on probability and stochastic calculus but that's veering into a Finance masters.

[burnt dune]

i heard "prestige" doesnt really matter much with industry

[woven whale]

topo is used in some places

I remember the category theory guy using it at work

[burnt dune]

but yea ur right 99% of the time u wont usee any of what u said

unless ur some haskell nerd

[woven whale]

I feel offended

[burnt dune]

no dont be

u guys are super smart

literally i had 2 of you in my algo class they were super op

[woven whale]

Lol I'm not

[south kelp]

i'm not using prestige as a measure for like signaling, more like a measure of the quality of the masters program. Like there's definitely a disparity between say a masters at a generic state school and one at U-Mich. I guess I should've asked "how rigorous does the masters have to be" instead 😛

[burnt dune]

idk tbh but i know about industry jobs alot from my undergrad and as u said rarely would u ever use such abstract math

if any lmao

[south kelp]

yeah sadge

[burnt dune]

mainly coding

they would just use your masters as proof of your "excellent problem solving skills"

[bright hill]

That's a stupid question imo

[neat lintel]

[bright hill]

Why would you care about that?

Surely "feeling smart" isn't the only reason you do math?

[burnt dune]

idk not really caring about it but

how would i know if im at the right pace

[neat lintel]

[bright hill]

I don't really know how to answer that

Only you can decide if you're going too fast

Or at least faster than what you're comfortable with

[burnt dune]

yea but htere are some obvious reference points

like for examplee not being ablee to know half of the definitions used (as in like prereqs)

therefore this is not the textbook for me

etc

[neat lintel]

you don't need to (and should not expect to) understand 100% on the first read

[burnt dune]

analogusly maybe mee not understanding the proofs fast enough implies i dont have enough "mathematical maturity"

for example

[burnt dune]

yea i figured , i am reading lee without much knowledge about fundamental groups

but fingers crossed

[neat lintel]

specifically fundamental groups shouldn't be much of an issue

you can just skip those parts

or blackbox them

they're not extremely important until you get to the homology/cohomology part of the book

[bright hill]

Well, now that's a much more more productive thought process

[burnt dune]

yea

i will skip those

i am just trying to fill in thee gaps of my undergrad knowledge

so (if) i apply for grad school i can prove that i can do anything

hopfully

[neat lintel]

good luck, i guess

lee's is a long book

a bit too long

[burnt dune]

idk any other alternatives really

but i have nothing else to do

finished my sem exams

[neat lintel]

tu, spivak, boothby, the other lee, warner

just off the top of my head

[burnt dune]

well i think what made me choose lee is

just that it covers de rham cohmology which is something i ways wanted to learn from learning about homological algeebra from DF

i always wanted to know in what sick fuck context this works in

dk if the rest covers dee rham cohom or no

probably yes

ngroupoid gave me a brief intro so i jumped

[neat lintel]

everything is cohomology

[burnt dune]

Funny hahaha

[burnt dune]

Yeaa wanna find out about that

In a formal setting

[open aspen]

About cohomo in general?

Or a specific theory

[burnt dune]

yea

cohom in general

very big deal in math turns out

[zealous garden]

Is it time to change my nickname back to kohomology?

[void tundra]

kosmology

[zealous garden]

I'm actually angry that I like that idea

[void tundra]

now you can pretend you are a physicist

[zealous garden]

,, E^2 = m^2 c^4 + p^2 c^2

[fathom swallow]

wraithlord_kosmology

[void tundra]

that needs to go into your profile now

[zealous garden]

Lmfao

[fathom swallow]

wt

[zealous garden]

I didn't say it was

I didn't say I think you thought I said it was

Well played

[zealous quail]

does anyone know what my pre-calc teacher means by this

[void tundra]

!help

[quasi jetty]

Please read #❓how-to-get-help

[void tundra]

you are missing context

[zealous quail]

there is no context, this is part of a list of things that will be on my pre-calc test

idk what zeros of a polynomial means either

[untold sapphire]

A zero of a polynomial p(x) is a number a with the property that p(a) = 0

but I don't know if that notation or language is any clearer

For example, if I took the polynomial y= x^2 - 1, a zero of the polynomial is any number a which satisfies the equation 0 = a^2 - 1

You can show that if you take a = 1 or a = -1, both of these result in the equation being true.

So -1 and 1 are zeroes for the polynomial y = x^2 - 1.

I do not know what your teacher means by "determine the x-values for a function, f(x), at a specific x."

They might mean "determine the y-values for a function f(x) at a specific x"

You should email them promptly and ask them to clarify.

It's very unclear what it means and probably other people will have trouble understanding as well.

[zealous quail]

he's definitely asleep right now, so I just asked one of my friends in the class

she said that it might be in relation to this question on our last assignemnt

[untold sapphire]

It's not rude to email someone at night. They don't have to respond immediately

Also there's a typo in that question as well lol

I doubt there are supposed to be both x and t in that equation for C(t)

[untold sapphire]

Anyway I can't help you understand it because it doesn't make sense but i have suggested what they might have meant to write.

if you have another question I can try to help you.

[zealous quail]

ofc

thanks for the help

[untold sapphire]

🛀

[winter flame]

hello

oops i gtg 😦

lol

[inland raft]

[neat lintel]

[trim stone]

1-2+3-4... is equal to infinity. >:)

[hollow quest]

π

[neat lintel]

(π)

[fast moat]

it doesnt converge

$\begin{bmatrix}0&-1\1&0\end{bmatrix}8$

[fathom swallow]

🤓

[zealous quail]

I may have to go to war with my pre-calc prof

[void tundra]

er

[wide marten]

Hi I want to learn measure theory

does anyone have book/class recommendations

I'm not in university

[void tundra]

do you know real analysis

that is a prereq

[wide marten]

yes

[void tundra]

sheldon axler has a measure theory book

[wide marten]

is it good

[void tundra]

r/math seems to like it

ask #book-recommendations

[zealous garden]

i8

[prime adder]

But its less than -1/12

Lol!!!

[storm sage]

The first three chapters of folland are pretty good

[golden bane]

is there a free software able user enter some math symbols (like calculus) and calculate?

[neat lintel]

https://www.wolframalpha.com/

[odd brook]

Folland is great but difficult

I might just recommend Tao's text on measure ngl

[lunar venture]

@open aspen like I just had this question and it took me 25 minutes to figure it out even though I had my formula in front of me.

Rudimentary math and my brain just forgot in the moment.

The course is going to get substantially harder in the next weeks and I feel like I'll be so behind by then.

[inland raft]

are there any talks in this sv?

[void tundra]

oh that's true since there are no VCs can we really have talks anymore?

[open aspen]

Good question...

[surreal sapphire]

we have a stage channel

only have to wait for them to support screen share

but seriously, I'm sure we would find a way, currently its more a lack of people willing to give talks

[void tundra]

stage channels do not support screen share?

oh

[surreal sapphire]

not yet i think?

[void tundra]

well hopefully they release it soon

(probably gonna end up getting delayed tho)

[leaden torrent]

we could also simply reopen voice channels temporarily for talks

[neat lintel]

elo

[cold needle]

#chill

[rustic wyvern]

mb

[granite hound]

So, what questions do any of you have about mathy CS?

[torn willow]

What do you have left in mathy cs if you remove complexity theory, type theory, programming language theory and related things

@granite hound

[granite hound]

Recursion, structures, logic, program control and the like are more the questions I had in mind atm

Though I love my computational proofs

[torn willow]

Wdym by structures exactly

Things like finite automata?

[granite hound]

Well I knew a guy in 1st year that dropped CS because he couldn't understand 2D lists

But also automata?

Idk

I could also talk about higher level stuff, but I'm just curious about what kinda things people get caught on along the way

[torn willow]

Well so is there an area of study around modelling program flow?

[granite hound]

I dunno if it has a name, but research into stuff like continuations, lambda functions, threading, and so on has been going on for a while

Honestly the name for that might BE Computer Science

[river moon]

all of these have little math and require more just knowing what interacts with what and using what kind of interface

[granite hound]

Applied math is part of math

[river moon]

CPU architecture has things like finite automata, but even for very simple CPU the number of states gets large and state graph gets complicated extremely quickly

[river moon]

no, the point is that it's not even applied math

[torn willow]

So people don't study them?

[granite hound]

I'm not necessarily talking about hardware-based computation though

More programming theory

Though was hoping to talk about the more applied aspects, the things people might actually see in a languave

Though maybe one like Coq, Prolog, Ocaml more than the others

[void tundra]

Theorem provers?

One of my friends is a big fan of lean

[granite hound]

I've heard good things about it

[void tundra]

If you're talking about languages that have some mathematical things

Rust?

I do quite like rust myself

I heard it was based off OCaml

[granite hound]

In retrospect this probably wasn't the server to ask this in

Ahhhh that's why I find it so familiar!

[void tundra]

I mean

The owner enjoys functional programming

[torn willow]

Why can so many people see so many languages in Rust

[void tundra]

W h a t

[torn willow]

I have met people who thought Rust was like C++

[void tundra]

Because every programming language is just the same as other one

[granite hound]

My favourite CS class ever was taught in Ocaml, and I find Rust's syntax super nice

[torn willow]

Others feel it is like Haskell

[void tundra]

Rust takes a lot of inspiration from other languages

There are elements of python in there too

[granite hound]

Rust accomplishes similar things to C++, but it flows more like Ocaml/Haskell imo

[void tundra]

Yea rust has some "low level" properties

[torn willow]

I feel like you can very comfortably write OOP in Rust

[void tundra]

Oh yes

You absolutely can

It is syntax sugar though

[granite hound]

Rust allows for direct memory manipulation as part of the core language

[torn willow]

Aren't all programming languages syntax sugar over C

[granite hound]

Which is very useful for working with registers

Not Common Lisp

[torn willow]

You just haven't tried hard enough

https://carld.github.io/2017/06/20/lisp-in-less-than-200-lines-of-c.html

[granite hound]

Yeah you can implement them in one another, that doesn't make one a subset of the other

[torn willow]

nvm not this

[void tundra]

discussion 2 > discussion

[granite hound]

I bet I could write a C compiler in Rust if I gave enough of a shit

[torn willow]

Well ig it's either C or ML

[void tundra]

someone has done this actually

[granite hound]

Not surprised

[torn willow]

You have inline assembly

So C is fine

[void tundra]

its all syntax sugar over moving electrons

[granite hound]

Which kind of assembly though~?

[void tundra]

rust has inline assembly too

[neat lintel]

how to spend a break time when you’re over doing maths

[hearty marsh]

Do physics

[neat lintel]

i might do that too

currently i am doing maths

you know what
europe is kinda mediocre
america too
all countries are mediocre.

except Albania

🇦🇱

[river moon]

what is this jpeg flag

[neat lintel]

Hi

[visual raft]

hello

[burnt ledge]

its actually SVG

[old flint]

man I am done whenever I sit and start to study math, when I see the problem I just ignore it or just see the answer and then write it, what should I do my exams are coming and I am ignoring the problem rather than doing it .

[hearty marsh]

Do it.

Don’t ignore it.

Tear out the solution pages.

Focus on the problem and only the problem.

[royal shore]

hey do yall do 9th grade math

is this even a server for 9th graders

[surreal sapphire]

how old are people in the 9th grade

[royal shore]

14,15

[surreal sapphire]

then sure, see #❓how-to-get-help if you need help

[royal shore]

16 if ever they got held back

not as in fail just a different type of (got held back)

[surreal sapphire]

i only asked because you need to be at least 13 to use discord

[untold sapphire]

how do you guys like ocaml

[storm sage]

More cluttered version of Haskell

[tall minnow]

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/1924367/why-do-hedge-funds-and-financial-services-often-use-ocaml

[neat lintel]

its good because it lets u work at janestreet /s

[zealous flame]

How do I make £7 quickly

[tall minnow]

change da world

[neat lintel]

literally the wisest thing one has said

[untold sapphire]

Cluttered?

[storm sage]

Idk it just looks uglier to me

I don't know that much OCaml though lol

But if i compare an OCaml version and a Haskell version of something, the Haskell one looks better on the eyes

[tall minnow]

6 pages long

I'm pretty sure that's abnormal

[mental flax]

i know 🥹

[tall minnow]

your proofs could be made more efficient, or less reciting the obvious

[mental flax]

hmm yea ig

[tall minnow]

remember that a math proof is ultimately communication

if both you and grader understand what you mean, no need to recite the obvious

[mental flax]

you are right, i have written pretty lengthy paragraphs

and written certain parts again if needed

i will try to shorten them

thanks for the advice!

[dense bane]

what's wrong with my input? sorry for the long link
https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i2d=true&i=Sum[\(40)1.5%25*Power[\(40)98.5%25\(41)%2Cn]%2C{n%2C0%2C49}]\(40)Sum[\(40)z*1.5%25*Power[\(40)98.5%25\(41)%2Cz-1]\(41)%2B\(40)100-n\(41)Power[\(40)98.5%25\(41)%2C99-n]\(41)\(41)%2B+%2C{z%2C1%2C99-n}]Power[\(40)98.5%25\(41)%2C50]\(40)Sum[\(40)z*1.5%25*Power[\(40)98.5%25\(41)%2Cz-1]\(41)%2B50Power[\(40)98.5%25\(41)%2C49]\(41)%2C{z%2C1%2C49}]&key=41wvn

[zealous garden]

should I ping mods? Sus

[dense bane]

it's https://www.wolframalpha.com/ rest is equation info

[zealous garden]

Defending yourself? Sus af

[pure sun]

your input is kind of a disaster lol

[zealous garden]

I don't trust any link if I can't read the whole thing in 10 seconds and comprehend

[pure sun]

the things that you are trying to sum aren't actually being summed

when you do the big sigma, it gives you a tiny box to type in, and that's what's being summed

the pink parentheses means that it doesn't have a match for them

because it thinks one of your parentheses is inside of a sum, and the other one it thinks is outside of the sum

[dense bane]

thanks

[dark stratus]

Hi! Is there an equation that, given a number n, the point where the derivative is 0 is a divisor of n?

wait, that's the wrong question

Is there an equation where, given a number n, the point where y = 0 in the graph is a divisor of n?

[static loom]

there are yep

here's one example, the $d|n$ means take the product over the divisors of $n$.$$f(x)=\prod_{d|n} (x-d)$$

[fathom swallow]

Merosity

[dark stratus]

Without a pi notation?

[static loom]

why

[dark stratus]

Out of curiosity, I was trying to build one

something like that:

[static loom]

do you only want divisors of n

[dark stratus]

(I inserted 10 as n, got me 5, 2.5... etc)

[static loom]

sin(pi x) has all integers as roots, so for any n, all divisors are roots

[zealous garden]

Lmfao

[dark stratus]

And for non integers?

[dark stratus]

something like that

[zealous garden]

What

[static loom]

2.5 isn't a divisor of 10 in any useful sense I'm aware of

f(x)=0 is 0 at all divisors of n for all n

[static loom]

I'll elaborate a bit on this. When talking about integers you can talk about divisors, like 6 is divisible by 1, 2, 3, 6 and not 5 or 12 as examples

[dark stratus]

wait, i know what's wrong with what I asked

[static loom]

but once you start putting in decimals and fractions, you're just freely dividing as if they're real numbers now - everything's a divisor

[dark stratus]

since english is not my first language and I never studied math in english, translating things is a problem for me ahah

[static loom]

its ok

[dark stratus]

A quotient

not divisor

nevermind, any quotient

[static loom]

basically what I said here applies still

so like if n=10 what numbers do you want it to be 0 at?

[dark stratus]

5, 3.33, 2.5, 2...

[static loom]

I see, only quotients by integers

[dark stratus]

oh yeah

forgot to add that part 😛

[static loom]

similar to earlier, sin(n pi/x) will work

[dark stratus]

wonderful, thanks

[static loom]

other similar stuff you can do is like sin(pi sqrt(x)) is all perfect squares

try seeing if you can make other sequences maybe

basically once you know sin(pi x) is 0 at all integers you can bend it into other stuff you have a formula for

[dense bane]

still waiting for the first ones result while it worked for the second one, processing power shouldn't be a problem right?
ok looks like it works on desmos

coding it in scratch would be faster for me given it took some time finding something that can calculate it

[dark stratus]

Another random question: is there a product notation equation where any point in the function that is a discontinuity point is a prime number?

[leaden torrent]

uh you mean like $\prod_{p \text{ prime}} \frac{1}{1-p}$?

[fathom swallow]

Namington

[leaden torrent]

@dark stratus

this has other discontinuities tho wait im dumb

[dark stratus]

Uhm no, trying around I need something like that:

apart from discontinuity, every prime is different than 0

[leaden torrent]

i dont really understand the request, sorry

[static loom]

you can define piecewise functions in desmos if that's what you care about

https://www.desmos.com/calculator/qxir1amryq

[dark stratus]

No, I was trying to do something like that: $\prod_{n=2}^{\frac{x}{2}}\cos\left(\left(x+\frac{n}{2}\right)\frac{\pi}{n}\right)$

ah, darn. Idk how to use that

[fathom swallow]

Lazy

[dark stratus]

This procudes a function where all the points where y is different from 0 are primes

I was playing around with that

[static loom]

I'm guessing this is doing like a little mini sieve of eratosthenes

[tight comet]

Could be a formula for primes

[static loom]

but less efficient by doing all numbers

[dark stratus]

yeah I was trying to find a way to make it more efficient

[static loom]

I don't think there's much point personally

[dark stratus]

yeah, no point from that apart having a bit of fun building functions in desmos

or another extremely inefficient way to find primes

[zealous quail]

how do I find local and universal maximum and minimum of a function?

[void tundra]

!help

[quasi jetty]

Please read #❓how-to-get-help

[dapper torrent]

2nd derivative

[zealous garden]

Hey, don't encourage the mathaskers

I'm still in committee over what atrocities I'm allowed to commit on them

[digital wren]

I just wanna say

Big fan of logic

Good stuff

[neat lintel]

hmmm

[digital wren]

It's satisfying

Actually that's a haiku:

I just wanna say
Big fan of logic. Good stuff.
It's satisfying

[neat lintel]

I have a logic course this semester

can't wait to see

[torn willow]

Is this supposed to be a gintama moment

[topaz harness]

One can not use partial fractions if the numerator and denominator are of the same grade right?

[brittle socket]

#❓how-to-get-help

[undone cobalt]

isn't that still an open question that yet no rigorous proof for?

[bright hill]

@leaden torrent why is called "very big"? Lol

[leaden torrent]

indeed it is not

[bright hill]

How peculiar

Shiawase written in katakana

got sax in it

->mid.

[leaden torrent]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHhHFN3SlcA

yeah it was added before i was mod

[neat lintel]

wut anime is this

[long matrix]

animuwu

[slim cedar]

https://tenor.com/view/idk-gif-24301301

[covert badger]

So I'm playing this game where you can spend a resource(nitro) at a rate of 1 nitro per real life second for 2x game speed. And there's a setting where you can spend 2 nitro per real life second for 3x game speed, I don't know which one is more efficient, my calculations say the 2 nitro for 3x costs more nitro for the same result but my gf says its the same no matter which option

I would think for the rates to match, it would have to be 2 nitro for 4x game speed

having trouble wrapping my head around it because time is confusing as shit to me

[bright hill]

Gifs go in #chill
Thx

[slim cedar]

not a meme

a reacton

[bright hill]

Let's not try to get around semantics

[bright hill]

Happy now?

[tulip cave]

Guys

Is it possible to find the limit of this function

[bright hill]

!help

[quasi jetty]

Please read #❓how-to-get-help

[bright hill]

The answer depends on mu and eta btw

They have to be 0

[vast creek]

hi

[zealous garden]

μη

σωδ

It's a monocled owo

[vast creek]

BRUH

[zealous garden]

Lmfao

[inland raft]

tututututututututututu

[vast surge]

Does anyone else like to submit the problem alongside the solution to the problem in their homework writeups? For instance, if I was meant to do problem 4.4.1.(a) from Cox, Little & O'Shea, I might type up a solution that looks like the following:

[fathom swallow]

Zorn's Blue Raspberry
Compile Error! Click the reaction for more information.
(You may edit your message to recompile.)

[vast surge]

Wait my tex broke here, I think I'm missing a package on reddit

Anyway, apparently some people just put the problem numbers, and then type the solution without copying the problem

I think I got into the habit because a professor required it? I'm not 100% sure, but one of my professors is strongly discouraging it this semester, which is unusual at least in my experience.

Anyway, I'm just wondering what the more general trend is. Retype the problem or not, which professors prefer if they have a preference, etc.

[vast surge]

(it was definitely a bad move to use bold both to designate the start of the solution and when citing a theorem though I won't argue with that, this is a copy-and-paste from a homework from like a year ago and I don't know what I was thinking then)

[cinder zephyr]

1: why is Cox, Little, & O'Shea appearing everywhere on this Discord all of a sudden
2: I am lazy and assume the grader knows what homework they are grading, so I don't bother to retype the question along with my answer

[dapper badge]

i like retyping the question

I think it's easier for me if I ever look back at my homework and I kinda just like listening to music while mindlessly typing up the problems

[vast surge]

Okay so I'm not the only one, that's good

[vast surge]

I dunno, I've been shilling it for over a year. I even wrote the official book recommendation for it in #books . It's a solid book on interesting subject matter that's accessible to a wide audience.

[cinder zephyr]

you're far from the only one

[vast surge]

What do professors typically prefer, in your opinion?

[dapper badge]

I've always typed up the problems, I've only had one professor who asked that I at least comment out the problems before submitting so it's easier for them to read

Nobody else has commented on it

[storm sage]

yes

[sick kite]

Personally I find that writing out the problem often helps me understand it more

[neat lintel]

look who just created an acc and joined the server