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violet wraith
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I've always been kinda nervous with the prospect of dealing with anything binomial-related: the formula, the coefficients, etc.
$\$
but I've finally sat down and thought a bit about it and came up with the general formula for the $n$th derivative of a product of functions. it's not impressive but I still would like to share:
$$(fg)^{(n)}=\sum_{0\le i\le n}\binom ni f^{(n-i)}g^{(i)}$$
(at least I hope this is correct)

fathom swallowBOT
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please request a new nickname

gusty star
violet wraith
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that's literally what I wrote

odd brook
gusty star
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Why have you thumbsdowned my comment?

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I posted it because of the "(at least I hope this is correct)" part

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And for fun, consider the case where you are working in char p

violet wraith
gusty star
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I thought you came up with it on your own, and I thought you would feel proud that you discovered a known identity

violet wraith
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I was just annoyed bc of the wikipedia page being posted immediately as I post my own thing but I see what you were doing

violet wraith
gusty star
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Ah right

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Feels good

violet wraith
celest zephyr
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@scarlet lantern hey, do you still keep up with developments in AQFT?

restive bolt
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Hey

bright hill
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@fast moat the sully was because your message was off topic

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Simply posting a geometric construction followed by "new" doesn't make for an interesting math discussion

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Fuck off

void tundra
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2 sullies to a delete nice

scarlet lantern
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Costello--Gwilliam and Urs’ work and Pedro Lauridsen’s work for the most part

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A little strange to ping me out of the blue for this; do I know you from the physics server or something

celest zephyr
# scarlet lantern Yes, but only the headlines

Mmmm I see. No, I just saw that you were quite critical of the AQFT program before in the physics server and I wanted to see if that had changed. I'm thinking whether it's a topic worth studying in the future or not. Unfortunately I can't post in the physics server without linking my phone number so I asked here instead.

scarlet lantern
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Ok, I see

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I’m critical of past advances in AQFT in the Haag--Kastler era and what came after because they didn’t really achieve anything and were quickly superseded by Glimm and Jaffe’s work which was roundly more effective

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So in the context of constructive QFT, algebraic approaches have been (up until recently) mostly unsuccessful

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Many of the new advances are quite interesting and worth following up

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But they’re very new so it’s tough to say what will happen and once again the more analytic approaches like Hairer’s programme are more successful on the ground

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Remains to be seen what will happen

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If you have an independent interest in AQFT, not constructive stuff, then by all means look into it. It really is very cool just at the mathematical level, especially CG’s stuff

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However one other thing to note is, because of their early lack of success, the field has remained a bit small. It’s not as vigorous as other areas of math phys and there are only small pockets in the UK and Germany and Canada working on it actively

neat lintel
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Hello guys

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Can smone help me with an algebra problem?

woven whale
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why are my hands constantly cold

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like even when I'm under a blanket

zealous garden
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Because you don't use them enough

neat frost
zealous garden
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In strenuous ways that get them tired and cause the blood to pump

neat frost
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Ah I see

zealous garden
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Like playing a Bass Guitar

scarlet lantern
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Idle hands are the Devil’s workshop. That’s why I always [keep them moving]

frigid matrix
neat lintel
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@frigid matrix u still here ?

frigid matrix
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yea

deep dirge
celest zephyr
# scarlet lantern If you have an independent interest in AQFT, not constructive stuff, then by all...

Well actually my interest is basically that I have some sort of physical motivation for studying grad maths xD As such I don't have any interest on the constructive stuff. I had a short email convo with Kasia Rejzner, and she seemed quite optimistic about the programme although that's understandable given that's her main area of research. She actually recently published a paper trying to connect her work on pAQFT with that of Costello/Gwilliam on factorization algebras

scarlet lantern
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Then you should definitely read up on it

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Rejzner's BV stuff in particular is very cool

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My only gripe really comes from the cQFT side, otherwise I think the developments in this area are well-worth studying, especially if you're interested in physics as a playground for algebra or motivation for algebra or what have you

celest zephyr
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yeee

neat lintel
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@frigid matrix sorry for the delay

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Small Saint#0022 so u can help with algebra?

gusty star
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Did anyone else notice that the texit bot is running at a $81.35USD a month loss?

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It's posted 292822 times on this server, that's pretty crazy

gusty star
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@cinder zephyr

cinder zephyr
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damn

gusty star
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I am kind of surprised they only get $29USD a month

woven whale
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how does their vps cost 100€/month shiver

gusty star
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woven whale
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it's only 16 gigs

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or well

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maybe like 20

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cuz of the os

gusty star
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A shard manager is generally a seperate program that communicates to all running instances of your bot, and tells each shard if and when it's allowed to connect. The manager would handle the max concurrency and make sure that too many shards don't try to connect simultaneously.

And this has 476527 shard members

woven whale
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shard members not shard manager

gusty star
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I am aware

gusty star
woven whale
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yeah but still

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I'm paying 20€/month for a 32 gig vps

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with a uh

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let me check

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what cpu

gusty star
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And how many users are you serving?

woven whale
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but it's 6 vcores

gusty star
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And is it dedicated, or shared?

woven whale
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it's a vps

gusty star
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Shared cost way less than dedicated

woven whale
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ok and?

gusty star
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You seemed sceptical it cost so much, and your justification was based on your shared VPS costs

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But shared VPS cost significantly less than dedicated hosting

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They should probably be transparent with their costs though, that would probably motivate people

woven whale
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"I go for the gucci socks because they have gucci in their name"

gusty star
woven whale
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do you have any evidence for that claim?

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have you tried running a 30000 server bot on a vps yourself?

gusty star
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Do you understand the difference between shared and dedicated hosting?

woven whale
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responding to my question with another question

gusty star
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Your question seems to suggest you don't know the difference

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The second question seemed like a rhetorical statement

woven whale
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man I really can't be arsed arguing with you

gusty star
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That's okay, you don't seem to have anything to share

woven whale
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please stfu

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you realize this comment wasn't necessary

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and is just going to get me more heated

cold needle
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sully can we be civil in here

brittle socket
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Latex workshop doesn't want to work

void tundra
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omg hiii grasss

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is that actually a good vscode extension

void tundra
brittle socket
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Latex is pain

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Gonna continue trying to fix my latex workshop after i get home

fast moat
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HELP

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IM STUCK AT A BRITISH ACCENT

limber thunder
mild birch
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guys i need help in math discussion appreciate support ^^

fast moat
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!help

quasi jettyBOT
compact tartan
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the reason VPS are so cheap is that their resources are overbooked and not inteded to be used to 100% all the time

surreal kindle
neat lintel
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Hi guys

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Can someone help me with a geometry problem?

mighty gale
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@neat lintel which grade?

neat lintel
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High school

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@mighty gale can u help ?

mighty gale
neat lintel
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In my country we have 3 grates of high school

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Am in the second one

mighty gale
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ohh ok

neat lintel
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Grades

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Soo

mighty gale
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ask it

neat lintel
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Here?

mighty gale
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if possible i can ans?

neat lintel
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Gimme a sex

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C

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triangle ABG is given
with A(-5,-2) while the median BM has an equation of y=x-1 and the height DG has an equation of y=-2x-2

mighty gale
neat lintel
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Find the equation of the side AB

mighty gale
mighty gale
neat lintel
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Greece

mighty gale
neat lintel
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Sooooo

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Any ideas?

mighty gale
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yes wait a sec

neat lintel
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@mighty gale okiii

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@mighty gale am still here 😅

mighty gale
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yes

neat lintel
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@mighty gale so u got any luck with it ?

mighty gale
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still on it

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@neat lintel hope iam correct

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y=-1/3x-6/5

neat lintel
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Can j show me ?

mighty gale
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@neat lintel whats the ans?

neat lintel
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How u got it

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I really dk its for an project

mighty gale
neat lintel
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My tutor

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I can tell u in about 2 hours when I get back

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Can u show me how u found it tho?

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And ty so much for your time

mighty gale
neat lintel
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@mighty gale maybe u could send me photo of your work?

mighty gale
mighty gale
neat lintel
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@mighty gale it's Okey even if u are wrong

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@mighty gale but commooooonnn let me seeeeeeee

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Am curious

mighty gale
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wtf i cant explain it

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see what i did was

neat lintel
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Wdym

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Let me see what u wrote

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In the paper

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I might understand lol

mighty gale
mighty gale
neat lintel
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wow

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Should I attempt calculus 1 in 11 days

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no never...

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Why

woven whale
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why not

neat lintel
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@woven whale

mighty gale
mighty gale
mighty gale
neat lintel
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What math class is it for

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@mighty gale wow lolly that's kind off a mess hahaha

mighty gale
mighty gale
neat lintel
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o

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uh

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@mighty gale am 18

mighty gale
neat lintel
neat lintel
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that's really weird

mighty gale
neat lintel
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It looks like there's an inside

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at my school's math the shapes are always flat looking

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@mighty gale hahaha loooll

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on graphs

mighty gale
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tell me the ans?

neat lintel
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That thing still uses mx + b

mighty gale
neat lintel
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Ye

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Weird graph still using mx + b

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I remember back in algebra 1 with flat shapes

mighty gale
neat lintel
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The one you have has an inside

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P1jdcibwdcnwdj Cisco q

mighty gale
neat lintel
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Yes it issss

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No no

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Not intercept

mighty gale
neat lintel
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Slope form

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Actually

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Is that not linear

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form

mighty gale
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yes i think so

mighty gale
neat lintel
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Sorry I cannot say my age

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not to strangers

mighty gale
neat lintel
mighty gale
neat lintel
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No

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I have an oath I took

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I cannot say my age

mighty gale
neat lintel
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grade 11

mighty gale
neat lintel
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US

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I am in algebra 2

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Not looking good for me

mighty gale
neat lintel
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ok

mighty gale
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i will be in grade 11 next summer

neat lintel
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noice

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I will be senior

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Can't believe graduating soon

mighty gale
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which uni are to going to aaply?

neat lintel
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I donno

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I wanted UC but I don't know

mighty gale
neat lintel
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I graduate next yearrrrrrrr

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Ye

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class of 2023?

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Oops

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2024

mighty gale
neat lintel
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Logarithms

mighty gale
neat lintel
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I might take summer class to skip pre calc

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I didn't get the chance last year because everyone took all seats

mighty gale
neat lintel
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A fellow class of 2024

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Very nice

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I will go for engeering

mighty gale
neat lintel
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oo

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I wanted to go engineering like biomedical

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BUt

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I always think I'm not enough for it

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Not looking good for me

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So many careers I wanna choose but can't pick one

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@mighty gale wdym witch one

mighty gale
neat lintel
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Ye

mighty gale
mighty gale
neat lintel
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Yes

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I should use that time efficiently

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Planning on self studying

mighty gale
mighty gale
neat lintel
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Ye

mighty gale
neat lintel
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I am trying to fix my sleeping schedule

mighty gale
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@neat lintel tag me to tell the ans sully

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bye

neat lintel
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@mighty gale ikiiiiiii boyyy<3

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Bye*

wheat bloom
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hey any math nerds want to read a couple of concise and useful pdfs on mathematical logic and combinatorics to join me on the adventures of the abstract!

neat lintel
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I'd love to join on the adventure of the abstract

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If only I had the capacity pensivebread

mighty gale
wheat bloom
mighty gale
wheat bloom
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it's subjective

mighty gale
wheat bloom
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like it means, cause every human decides what is 'hard' and 'easy' for themselves

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but yeah does take commitment to read

mighty gale
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its being at that level

mighty gale
mighty gale
woven whale
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using your age and/or your school grade as an excuse is just dumb

mighty gale
woven whale
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your age/school grade doesn't say anything about your math level

woven whale
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ok

violet wraith
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ok

zealous garden
woven whale
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like this one person thought 4 / 1 = 2

zealous garden
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I remember teaching high school students how to carry digits in addition

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Well, one in particular

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I'm not a teacher, I was just sitting next to him

onyx pagoda
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where is this?

woven whale
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that's kinda racist man

mighty gale
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from the stereotypes

mighty gale
mighty gale
violet wraith
zealous garden
onyx pagoda
violet wraith
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muomegamu

zealous garden
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Lmfao

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US

onyx pagoda
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oh you're from China? You must be that guy that owns Xinfuhao hotel in Guangdong Province, Foshan, Shunde District, 新兴路10号 邮政编码: 528308

zealous garden
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How'd you know I was actually Chinese!?!?!?!?

mighty gale
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@neat lintel kot

onyx pagoda
# zealous garden How'd you know I was actually Chinese!?!?!?!?

you see, I'm a professional doxxer, I know everything. I know not only the minutest details of your lives but those of everything around you, for I mention even knowing when a sparrow falls or when you lose a single hair. Not only do I know everything that will occur until the end of history itself, but also know your very thoughts, even before you speak forth. I know your hearts from afar; I even saw you in the womb.

zealous garden
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Just leave my hotel and my son alone

wicked jackal
neat lintel
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have you guys ever used the binwalk command in linux

mighty gale
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@neat lintel so what was the ans?sotrue

rustic wyvern
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Istg like half the people on earth use those iPad note/drawing apps for math now lol

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It's gotten so popular lately

storm sage
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Too many!!

crystal dagger
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chalkboards are for those with good memory

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i can never remember what i wrote 2 erases ago

void tundra
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I cant even remember what I wrote ON the chalkboard lmao

marble delta
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Høw dø u type the øther x in discørd

chilly hull
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i like pen and paper

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wait not pen

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pencil and paper

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the only writing utensil in my case are no2 pencils

brittle socket
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Hi cat bread

chilly hull
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sup

brittle socket
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supremum?

chilly hull
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i proved that if a differentiable function has a local max on m, then f'(m)=0

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im gonna try to prove rolles/MVT

lofty torrent
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i got the trick spoiled for me

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but in retrospect I probably would not have seen that based on my skill at the time

lofty torrent
storm sage
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ngl I don't remember how to prove rolle's theorem

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oh nvm

cinder zephyr
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can't do lecture note on a chalkboard

finite folio
zinc peak
shrewd oyster
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h

rocky iron
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.

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h

grim patrol
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h\

rocky iron
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okay continuing

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servers for physics

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and chem

grim patrol
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ye so i know a server of physics

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joined just 3 minutes before

shrewd oyster
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theres probably a physics server exactly like this too yh

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it probably has less ppl

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cos maths is more popular

rocky iron
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is it active?

rocky iron
grim patrol
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kinda

rocky iron
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physics deserves some love too

shrewd oyster
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yeah

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i gotta do vectors

rocky iron
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whenever my tests go bad physics always comes in clutch

grim patrol
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about 3.7k members

shrewd oyster
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all these boring ahh humanities subjects are so annoying

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peach which class u in

rocky iron
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11th

rocky iron
grim patrol
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studying hindi nd sst is so useless

rocky iron
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which board shashwat?

shrewd oyster
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cbse prolly

grim patrol
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cbse

shrewd oyster
rocky iron
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we had mcqs for the first term lol

shrewd oyster
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im going to do most of mechanics before class 11 (hopefully)

arctic grove
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thats why

grim patrol
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vectors are pretty simple as far as i did

rocky iron
shrewd oyster
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9th

grim patrol
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i see

rocky iron
rocky iron
grim patrol
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students of class 7th and 8th are doing physics of 11th and 12th in my coaching 💀

arctic grove
rocky iron
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this is why i dont like maths

grim patrol
rocky iron
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overcomplicates things unnecessarily

shrewd oyster
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our coaching class 9 students dont know addition subtraction of fractions

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teachers are good tho i just take extra classes

grim patrol
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i got a meme for this

shrewd oyster
arctic grove
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absolutely doesnt

shrewd oyster
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btw how much is fee at narayana

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without discount

rocky iron
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I was in class 8 and my batchmates didnt know how to solve linear equations

rocky iron
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felt smart for once

rocky iron
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its all

shrewd oyster
rocky iron
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dad dealing with that stuff

shrewd oyster
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there is only one guy

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but hell take commerce

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in 11th

grim patrol
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in my coaching i either get 2nd or 1st theres this guy who comes in the test with name as fish and gets near same marks as me

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good competition = good motivation

rocky iron
grim patrol
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good motivation = good study

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good study = good rank

rocky iron
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my score fell for a bit because personal stuff

grim patrol
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good rank = good job

rocky iron
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im getting back on track now

grim patrol
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good job = hapy

shrewd oyster
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dawg its 3 lakhs for 2 years

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💀

grim patrol
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LMao

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i am doing dummy for 11th and 12th

shrewd oyster
rocky iron
torn willow
grim patrol
arctic grove
shrewd oyster
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not true

rocky iron
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have been doing jee prep since 6th kekw

grim patrol
grim patrol
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good job = good money

money = happiness

arctic grove
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what kind of a sadist would get someone to prepare from 6th...

torn willow
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The difficult part is knowing what you want to do

rocky iron
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my dad used to be centerhead for local fiitjee

shrewd oyster
torn willow
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Money is easy

arctic grove
shrewd oyster
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fiitjee exam

rocky iron
torn willow
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Just learn web dev or some shit

arctic grove
rocky iron
grim patrol
torn willow
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ftre is rigged

rocky iron
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mhm

shrewd oyster
rocky iron
grim patrol
arctic grove
shrewd oyster
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bruh wtf

grim patrol
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75th percentile

arctic grove
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but i would like a 4090 myself

torn willow
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So FIITJEE asked us to write FTRE for no reason

shrewd oyster
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i got 1k ish rank

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big bang is better afaik

torn willow
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Well there is a reason and that is to prevent outside people from getting like 250ish rank

rocky iron
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I got a decent under 100 rank in bigbang

shrewd oyster
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peach how good r u doing in mock tests rn

torn willow
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Also ig inflating the competition?

grim patrol
rocky iron
shrewd oyster
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nice

rocky iron
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not that good

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im planning

shrewd oyster
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eh its decent

rocky iron
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150 adv 200+ mains

shrewd oyster
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youll get there

rocky iron
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its just not happeninggggggg it keeps going down

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demotivated frfr

arctic grove
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dont be

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these tests are part tests

grim patrol
arctic grove
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they dont really determine at much

rocky iron
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I wake up at 3 and do chem

shrewd oyster
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peach what uni you wanna go to

arctic grove
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it is a lot

rocky iron
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and ur telling me i still score a 30/60

arctic grove
rocky iron
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ima just sleep?????? kekw

torn willow
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Just sleep

arctic grove
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better idea really

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dont fuck with your sleep

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anything but that.

grim patrol
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Here is a time-table i follow created by chatgpt

6:00 AM - 7:00 AM Wake up, eat breakfast, and prepare for the day

7:00 AM - 9:00 AM Review previous day's notes and any upcoming assignments or exams

9:00 AM - 12:00 PM Focus on specific subjects or topics

12:00 PM - 1:00 PM Break for lunch and physical activity

1:00 PM - 4:00 PM Continue focusing on subjects or topics

4:00 PM - 5:00 PM Break for a snack and review any material that is giving you difficulty

5:00 PM - 8:00 PM Focus on a different subjects or topics

8:00 PM - 9:00 PM Dinner and leisure time

9:00 PM - 10:00 PM Review all material covered during the day and make any necessary notes or summaries

10:00 PM - 6:00 AM Sleep

torn willow
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You have a time table?

shrewd oyster
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yall have time tables?

arctic grove
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I dont

torn willow
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I think that's probably where I fucked up

rocky iron
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doesnt work when my coaching keeps us there from 8 to 9

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13 hours o-o

shrewd oyster
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wait is narayana integrated school + coaching

rocky iron
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mhm

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i go to the

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coaching part

grim patrol
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dummy

shrewd oyster
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school?

grim patrol
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with coaching

shrewd oyster
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damn

rocky iron
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dummy school with coaching

shrewd oyster
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my parents wont allow me to take admission in dummy 100%

grim patrol
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dummy is chad

shrewd oyster
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our school doesnt force attendance on good students tho

grim patrol
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normal school is dogshit

shrewd oyster
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gotta get my rep good

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in class 10

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so they dont pressure for attendance

grim patrol
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normal school no jee prep

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basic ncert level

shrewd oyster
rocky iron
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this is what our timetable looks like (its filled till 9 usually)

grim patrol
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convince parents then 💀

shrewd oyster
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i probably could

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but tbh i would just become a sad miserly fuck if i just sat inside my room all day

grim patrol
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no sadness

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you become a third person getting disappointed in yourself

rocky iron
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you pretend you're studying but you're not

shrewd oyster
grim patrol
rocky iron
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still takes your mind off of studies

grim patrol
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or lofi

shrewd oyster
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shashwat

rocky iron
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music in general does

shrewd oyster
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what coaching u going to

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in 11th

grim patrol
arctic grove
grim patrol
rocky iron
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im gonna log out now its almost 5 time to study

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bye bye y'all

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best of luck shyshu

arctic grove
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thanks!

silver meteor
neat lintel
void tundra
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if I run of latin and greek alphabet for variables what do I move on to

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hebrew letters?

surreal sapphire
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if you run out of letters, you rewrite what you have because its horrible opencry

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anyways, do not use nonstandard letters that people dont know how to write

void tundra
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no its just for scratch work

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I always clean up after im done

void tundra
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everytime I get stuck I use a ton of variables

woven whale
surreal sapphire
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i sometimes use smiley faces and stars

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but not really as variables, just as an equation counter

woven whale
#

just start using uppercase greek letters like ΑΕΡΤΥΟΖΗΚΝΜΒΧ

storm sage
hallow bear
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Hello is there by anychance a desktop app that uses AI to turn screenshots of equations to copyable Latex code on desktop?

junior jolt
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theres a website that lets you draw symbols and it converts individual symbols to latex

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but i've never seen something that does that

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sounds like a cool project

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@packam

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@neat lintel blocked

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not really

hallow bear
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It honestly disrupts my learning that I can't just throw nice equations to my notes seemlessly

devout nacelle
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If you're frequently working with equations, it's not bad idea to familiarize yourself with LaTeX

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You can then set up Obsidian for taking notes, adding equations on the fly which look nice

devout nacelle
hallow bear
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It seems so yes

devout nacelle
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Snippets borderline help me do that now

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I can type beautiful equations faster than I can write them by hand

hallow bear
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looked them up seems to have 10 snips per month

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which is uhh too low I guess

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might just ask chatGPT to spit out Latex equations then

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I do engineering so mostly use well known equations

devout nacelle
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If you see yourself frequently using equations for a long amount of time, putting in some effort to learn LaTeX on the fly is well worth it, imo

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MathJax especially is even more minimal

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Since you'd only be working with some standard packages and commands directly

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And no meta/document level things to be addressed on the level of LaTeX code

hallow bear
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Maybe, but for now I just need to study for a PhD exam in the next couple of weeks

devout nacelle
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Ah, okay

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If you're pressed for time then maybe you could also look at mathcha.io

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It's slightly more direct than MathJax

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And common editors

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Since it has a dropdown box for commands

hallow bear
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well perhaps if I succeed in this exam and start a PhD I hope I'd need it

tight comet
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The demo on the \exp function gave me
\exp\left[\int d^{4}x g\phi\bar{\psi}\psi\right]=\sum_{n=1}^{\infty}\frac{g^{n}}{n!}\left(\int d^{4}x\phi\bar{\psi}\psi\right)^{n}

which is incorrect as the sum starts from 0 and not 1, but that is essentially most of the TeX so you only need to add minor changes

hallow bear
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lovely

tight comet
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Installing seems to not be that easy, but I can get the model to run relatively well on an active Colab instance

hallow bear
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hope it runs on WSL because I'm not trying to make command line projects run on windows

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Ohh damn, it's not pre-trained? WHY,

tight comet
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pix2tex should work off the bat

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the model checkpoints will be downloaded

hallow bear
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ahh thank you lovely

bronze pelican
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Mathematical research can be accessible. This video series somewhat faithfully records the thinking process of a 15-year-old in his mathematical research. Although it turned out that someone had made a similar discovery, this independent and nontrivial discovery still stands to prove that mathematical research is not far-fetched.

Some useful li...

▶ Play video
static loom
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for the first problem I observed that we could reflect a path across the diagonal from start to finish and get another path, so I could just count all the paths that start going upwards as the first step, and multiply by 2

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then recursively break it into graphs, then contract, etc until I counted them all

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idk if there's really much hope than that, seems like it suggests generalizing the problem to counting all self-avoiding walks on all graphs, not just squares, since you sort of end up counting those anyways

inland raft
neat lintel
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wowy

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At 15 I had no interest in math

rocky shuttle
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At 15 I found physics and computer science more interesting than math

grim patrol
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i am 15 and find CS physics and math more interesting than chemistry

rocky shuttle
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That still holds for me

tulip jasper
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At 15 i found nuclear physics more interesting than normal physics and math

eager reef
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At 15 I didn’t care about any of these

gusty sable
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I WISH I was into competition math as a high schooler.

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It sucks a little to realise that I would have enjoyed it if I had tried it years ago.

grim patrol
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literally me

lucid sigil
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Sorry for the late reply, I was on vacation.

The classification that I am trying to make is the following: (Please, if you consider that something needs to be changed, tell me, really I still find the concept of "algebraic" and "transcendent" a bit strange because I don't understand what it really refers to, and I feel that trigonometric functions are also transcendental but I'm not sure)

Algebraic Functions (Here we could find polynomials of any degree, irrational)

Transcendent Functions (Exponential, Logarithmic)

Periodic (Trigonometric, any other periodic function)

Heading (defined by parts, for example, sign function, absolute value function, floor or ceiling function)

Combination (means to add, subtract, multiply, or divide two functions, for example, the rational function that is the result of dividing two polynomial functions)

Composition (Simply any function that happens to be a composition of two others, for example, "y=8^(3x+1)" (Composite Transcendent with Algebraic)

junior jolt
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lol that sucks

slow abyss
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Do you like meth

long matrix
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What you have classified is a very small subset

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One encounters wacky examples in Real Analysis, but even these are artificial in a way

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Basically - the functions we are generally interested in are like this.

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They are nice and easy to study

lucid sigil
long matrix
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never mind functions - even real numbers

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so there are numbers that are 'uncomputable'

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by definition, there's no way to write them down. This expands the possibilites

split oak
long matrix
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But anyways, apart from this wacky example there are others - all of the examples you list seem to be nice in the sense they're continuous almost everywhere

lucid sigil
lucid sigil
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Yes

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It is a split function

long matrix
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what is a split function...

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in any case, the 6 categories you've listed are rather arbitrary

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on the venn diagram of real functions I would say you've drawn 6 random circles

lucid sigil
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Functions defined by pieces (or split functions) are those that are defined with a specific rule in a specific interval. The easiest examples are the absolute value or sign function.

The Dirichlet function is also defined piecewise.

long matrix
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I will define their value at every single point

lucid sigil
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Yes

long matrix
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You need a more precise definition.

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Also note how a function is defined isn't a property attached to it.

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There is more than one way to do it

lucid sigil
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But do you need to define it with a Polynomial? I don't think you want to go to that trouble, plus it would be impossible considering an R domain. Only in cases where you want to have another domain and it's finite

long matrix
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But do you need to define it with a Polynomial?

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Can you clarify

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I don't understand what you've just said at all ngl

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Fundamentally, a real function maps from R to R, so it assigns to each real number another real number.

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in graphical terms, I take the R^2 plane and for each point x on the x-axis, I plot (x, y) for any y I choose

lucid sigil
long matrix
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I don't think the issue of a smaller domain / codomain is worth considering

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I can always just extend such by defining the function to be 0 everywhere else

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And consider just R -> R (to keep things simple)

lucid sigil
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What I wanted to clarify, I think that's what you were referring to, is about the fact that all functions can be defined in parts. It's true. But I don't think anyone does. Why define f:R--> R, f(x) = x piecemeal? You're never going to make it. On the other hand, if it is f:[2,3,6,9]-->R, f(x) = {0 if x=2; 10 if x=3; -20 if x≥6} then yes, and it's easier.

long matrix
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"i don't think anyone does"

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My point isn't who does or doesn't

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And I don't think that should be relevant

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That's not a property inherent to the function

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My point about a 'classification' is you should be classifying by properties inherent to the object

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In mathematics at least.

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Since you can define all functions piecewise (by doing it pointwise), all functions are piecewise.

lucid sigil
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You can define f(x) = x as "x" if x<0 and "x" if x≥0 Is that necessary?

long matrix
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'piecewise' is not an inherent property to the function

long matrix
alpine kindle
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this is pure notation

long matrix
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Let's take f(x) = |x|

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How would you define this?

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piecewise?

lucid sigil
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Yes

long matrix
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Is it necessary?

alpine kindle
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no

long matrix
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shh.

lucid sigil
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If you are going to graph it, it is necessary. If you are only going to calculate an image, no.

long matrix
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No.

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Consider f(x) = sqrt(x^2)

alpine kindle
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or literally just |x|
that doesn't require defining it piecewise

long matrix
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I am detracting from my original point - but I want to point out that 'necessary' is not obvious

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And its not a well-defined notion like you think it is

lucid sigil
long matrix
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In fact, how do you think f(x) = x is defined? Truly, it's actually defined pointwise.

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It's the function where the y value is equal to the x value at every point

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this is fundamentally a pointwise definition

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The same for x^2 and so on.

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I don't see another way to define it 'simpler' without resorting to a pointwise defn

alpine kindle
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define it categorically

lucid sigil
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Yes, you assign the same value to each value, that's understandable, it's exactly what f(x)=x says, right? There is no doubt that it is so. And that rule is fulfilled that you write "y=x" for any x that you consider, that is, for any x that belongs to R.

All of that can be written like this:

f : R --> R / f(x) = x

And that means what you mentioned above.

Now what can I do if I want my function to return a value y=x+4 when x is negative, y=100 when it is zero, and y=x+20 when x is positive? The above rule can be written like this:

f:R-->R / f(x) =

{x+4 if x<0
100 if x=0
x+20 if x>0}

With this function, you would first pass a "filter" to see what interval the number you put into the function belongs to (if it is positive, negative, or zero). This filter in the function that you mentioned (f(x)=x) was not there, whatever the value of x, it returned the same x, another example f(x)=x+8)

long matrix
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What mathematicians have done is choose a few specific functions. Like polynomials, trig, whatever (the ones you're familiar with). And then using those we can build more functions

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This covers all examples you will see in high school mostly

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But I'm saying these building blocks are in some sense arbitrary

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And also these building blocks have to be defined in some way anyways - probably pointwise.

lucid sigil
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It's all I want to cover, for now. I'll be a high school teacher, not a college one. Maybe in the future I should continue researching and learning about more ways to classify them.

long matrix
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My point is that functions are more general than this and I think its important to grasp to understand

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f : A -> B
f = {(x, y) : x in A, y in B}

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A function is a set of tuples with the property that

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if (a, b) and (a, c) are in the set then b = c

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This is the usual definition, and it essentially means that you define them pointwise

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For a real function, I can draw any random squiggle on the x-y plane (that passes the vertical line test) and we have one

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It doesn't even have to be a connected squiggle

lucid sigil
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Yes, and most importantly: the second component depends on the first, hence the name "function".

long matrix
lucid sigil
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I think it can be a beautiful split function.

long matrix
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what if it's joined up

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what on your list is it?

lucid sigil
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What do you mean by being united?

long matrix
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And think about the size of the space we're considering. It's R^R. That's a lot of functions

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what will this be

alpine kindle
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where would you put the functions such that f(x+y) = f(x)+f(y) and f(x) ≠ αx for all α in the real numbers

lucid sigil
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That is a property

long matrix
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But she's described a property which a lot of functions will fall under

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just take any one in that set.

alpine kindle
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yeah where does it fit in your list

lucid sigil
# long matrix

I don't understand why you care that the function is not "joined". It does not matter. It's still function.

long matrix
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No that's my point

alpine kindle
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of classes of functions

long matrix
# long matrix

If you give the idea that functions fall into one of those categories, then students will think such isn't one

alpine kindle
#

especially where does my one fit in your list of classes of functions

lucid sigil
alpine kindle
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takes one input

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it's just that if you add two numbers together and put it into the function it will be the same as applying the function separately to each and then adding

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I haven't given an explicit definition

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because that's physically impossible

lucid sigil
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Therefore, it seems to me more just a property that fulfills certain functions. Not a function as such.

alpine kindle
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choose one function

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from that list

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what category will it fall into

lucid sigil
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It's like saying "where would the injective function be on your list?"

long matrix
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never mind that one what about this one???

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ive explicitly defined a function on that interval

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(ignoring the slight inaccuracies on there)

lucid sigil
long matrix
#

?

long matrix
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split into what

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pointwise?

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I'm going to tell you now no part of that is a polynomial, trig, log, exp or whatever

lucid sigil
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Assuming it's not a polynomial function, maybe it's just a piecewise function.

long matrix
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Piecewise how

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if its in pieces, u got to say what the pieces are too

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The pieces would fall into your classification also.

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In the end - you're just going to resort to a pointwise defn for anything that doesn't fit in your categories

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which essentially signifies they aren't complete.

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They are a tiny subset of functions.

lucid sigil
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It can have parts of a polynomial, even some part of a trigonometric. It doesn't really matter which ones. It is inaccurate to find it through a scribble and I think it is the same with any other function that is difficult to recognize.

long matrix
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it's possible to have a function which are no parts polynomial or trig

alpine kindle
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Weierstrass function

long matrix
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never mind me squiggling - I can define functions pointwise with this property

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I can make it so that no interval in the domain will satisfy any of the above

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No interval (except points) are algebraic, transcendent, periodic or a combination/composition of.

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And this will in fact be the majority of functions that exist. So going with those categories is a bit misleading.

lucid sigil
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I understand what you are saying and you are right. My classification doesn't work for that type of function but then how can I classify those functions?

And as for the Weiertrass function, I haven't studied it yet, I saw that it has a summation and I don't understand how the concept of function with mixed summation works, so I don't know where it would be placed either.

alpine kindle
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the point we're making is that your classification isn't very good

long matrix
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I'm trying to point out its futile trying to come up with a classification

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You can include the category 'everything else', but this category will actually be huge compared to the others

alpine kindle
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no i wouldn't say that
you can classify by property vs negation of property

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fair

lucid sigil
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The problem is that I have seen in several places that they use a simple classification of "algebraic" and "transcendent". Then, they say things like "continuous, differentiable, etc" things that to me, aren't really a classification but rather "characteristic". That's why I've had a hard time finding a way to classify them. Just to try to predict their behavior. Maybe I should just do small groups of functions that I know, and then, as I learn more, find features that match (as a family of functions).

long matrix
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Better would be to think of those 'categories' as 'examples' or 'properties'

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Yes, they are properties certain functions have.

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Indeed characteristics.

alpine kindle
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don't try and classify all real functions

long matrix
#

It's hard enough trying to classify all real numbers.

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The transcendental class (the everything else one) is again massive

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and the same problems arise

alpine kindle
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the uncomputable class is infinitely larger than the computable class

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in fact

long matrix
#

yh so 'classification' is misleading

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when it fails to classify most of them

lucid sigil
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Anyway, I really liked the doodle. After all, it still meets the definition of a function.

Furthermore, the function is a relation, the relation is a subset of a Cartesian product, and the Cartesian product is a set of ordered pairs. I think that the functions that are defined with an analytical expression have a greater dependency (of the dependent variable with the independent one) than the others (the ones you drew, for example)

The Cartesian product can have infinitely many ordered pairs, it does not have to follow a rule that is easy to write, much less easy to find. Of course, there are easy ones like the ones already known, or that is why I think it will be important to put into practice (to my students) the fact that there are functions that do not have to have an "equation".

long matrix
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I would absolutely avoid giving them the impression that's 'all' possible functions

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Even at that level there are exam questions that ask you if this random graph (squiggle) represents a function

lucid sigil
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Of course, I will not let them be guided by such a minimal rating.

long matrix
#

Outside of these random examples, there are even nice ones you've missed. Such as functions that are best defined as a limit of a sequence of functions

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Or integrals

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I don't think the error function comes under any of what you've written

lucid sigil
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Which? I would like to know more about them

long matrix
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lookup error function

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There are others such as lambert, gamma function

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iirc they dont come under what uve written

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There are many 'nice' functions which are defined using infinite series

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including the trig ones

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nice in the sense they're used and have this and that property we're interested in studying

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===
And this is an important idea to get across to HS students imo - the 'majority' of integrals don't have a closed form solution

lucid sigil
#

but one question: Is it necessary to use two variables or one variable and one parameter for all those functions that you have mentioned? I say this because in the error function I found an "x" and a dt.

long matrix
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The ones they see are deliberately constructed to be doable

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the t is a dummy variable

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there is no dependence on it

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its like for example
$\sum^n_{i = 0} i$

fathom swallowBOT
long matrix
#

There is no dependence on i in this expression

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only n

lucid sigil
#

Oh

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Thanks, i understand 😄

long matrix
#

iirc solutions of certain differential equations give rise to more classes of functions

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Basically there are lots and lots of classes of functions mathematicians are interested in studying - even within real functions

brittle socket
alpine kindle
#

the gang

long matrix
#

and ryc

rocky shuttle
long matrix
#

meow

rocky shuttle
#

mrow

long matrix
#

finally a better chat

rocky shuttle
#

uinta

tulip jasper
#

what does “uinta” mean?

rocky shuttle
#

yamete

tulip jasper
#

a pseudonyme right? unita for winter right? yamete for me right?

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yeah make sense

long matrix
#

big brain i couldnt figure it

rocky shuttle
#

shuwi

neat lintel
#

shuwu-chan and winter-kun

long matrix
#

meow

long matrix
#

waw

worldly violet
#

How much is 2+2?

cinder zephyr
#

At least 3

worldly violet
#

perfect

sand wadi
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0

mild root
#

is anyone able to help me with a discrete structure problem?

orchid flume
mild root
#

?

flat harbor
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@lament peak 짜쟌

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what shuld i do today

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mmmm

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woah, dictatorship

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do u guys use one room one person

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ahh

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ye reminds me not forget to apply for a single room

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random roommate..

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mmm

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ah

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그런거도있구나

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ye that sounds hard

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takes a lot of energy to be patient too

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ah shit i hope nobody i knows on here

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귀척떡밥은 일코하면서도 뿌리는데

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한영키 누르면 심연의 깊이가...

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ive gone as far as to tell them id like to cosplay genshin characters

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ㅇㅇㅇ갔다와

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!!!

#

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동생 : "야 나 재채기했는데 왜 bless you 안해줌"
엄마 : (멀리서) "아 별꼴이야"

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im not sure whos better at english between me and my sis but shes a humanities major

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so i concede

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wow!

echo summit
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What does this mean i saw it in a geometry dash level before

flat harbor
#

stay warm

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ah shit theyre here

echo summit
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thank you

flat harbor
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the more attraction u feel to the person ure talking with

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its just how it works

echo summit
#

thats what i thought it might of been

flat harbor
#

kinda like the is in hiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii

neat lintel
#

ㅋ^((100)^100))

stable path
#

please i really need fast help w this.In a right triangle ABC with hypotenuse BC, the difference between the hypotenuse and the cathetus AB is equal to 9 cm. Knowing that the projection of AB onto the hypotenuse is 3.77 cm long, determine the area of ​​the triangle

dawn ivy
#

and every time the letter e coming replace it with 'ping'

prime adder
#

,w cathetus

fathom swallowBOT
prime adder
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Leg.

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I have never heard that word be used in reference to a leg of a right triangle.

sour fox
#

Hello, is there any helpers I could talk to for a discussion from helpers to helpers ?

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A teacher would be even greater actually

surreal sapphire
#

hmm?

mint patio
#

Obsidian vs Notion for a second brain

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Any thoughts?

tulip jasper
mint patio
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Why?

tulip jasper
#

It is good for organization and taking note for everything exept math and stuff like that but for that i use different app

tired stump
#

I was having problem with good question of limits while I am able to the basics and moderates ones, I was thinking if anyone would like to see and discuss it with me so that I can find out what is that is lingering my questions.
I would like share screen and talk to audio
as the vc has been closed in this server, I would prefer if you dm me.

tired stump
mint patio
#

I have ADHD and I fucking suck at remembering things

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I want something I can make to-do lists (organized) and write notes in and handwrite my notes and whatever I need

tired stump
#

for maths or other stuffs

tulip jasper
mint patio
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There’ll be lots of math, I’m an engineering student

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But it won’t be proofs or anything

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Lots of computation

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Handwritten

tired stump
#

best app for task management is Amplenote

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and for zettelkasten without maths is Tana

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and with maths, there is no one clearly a winner but with a lot of investment of time Obsidian can be turned into one.

tired stump
mint patio
#

I see

tired stump
neat lintel
#

if your second brain is a lot math then obsidian B)

neat lintel
#

Yo i solved a super hard equation

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With no help google or known formulas

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It was summation from n=x to x^2, with the equation of N^2

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Took me like a week

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👌

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Mostly cause of procrastinating tho

split oak
undone wren
#

Postmodern math

fast moat
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solution: (x^2-x+1)N^2

neat lintel
# split oak What does this mean?

Ok draw a function(x) with a summation symbol with x^2 on top of summation, and N=x at the bottom.
The equation inside the summation is N^2

neat lintel
#

Heres a crude drawing

neat lintel
#

find an explicit formula for the nth sum of n^2, then plug in x^2 and subtract off the part from n=1 to n=x-1?

neat lintel
#

Yea thats what i did

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The hard part was the explicit formula

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I had to figure it out on my own

cunning compass
#

Faulhaber’s formula AWOOKEN

neat lintel
#

I eventually found a pattern but i had to just look really hard at it for an hour

cunning compass
#

A general formula for the sum of 1^p + 2^p + … n^p

neat lintel
#

That must be what i figured out then

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👌

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I mostly just compared n(n+1)/2 with manually done answers of 1 to X of N^2 until i found you could multiply the answers in the first formula i put in this message, by something like 2x+1(i forgor💀) to get the second answers

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If you dont get it i can send picture of what i mewn

cunning compass
#

Yea the formula for sum of nth squares is x(x+1)(2x+1)/6

fathom swallowBOT
#

Frru1ty

neat lintel
#

Then with that it was pretty easy to get 1 to x^2

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And then instead of doing 1 to x-1 i just did (1 to x^2) minus (1 to x) plus x^2

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Just cause i didnt wanna over complicate it with summation to more than just a variable

cunning compass
#

Awesome

dawn juniper
#

can someone pls make me understand why tanA=aA+bI for a 2nd order matrix and secondly, why does the eigen value satisfy this relation

long matrix
#

define tan of a matrix D:

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never seen dis

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series expansion i suppose

long matrix
bright hill
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they might

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and if they don't

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we get a reason to yell at them for

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win win ¯_(ツ)_/¯

neon violet
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Hey, Ive probably didnt come too far in mathematics yet but I am geniunely curiosed, why do people use Mathematica over Wolfram Alpha, like Wolfram Alpha is much more friendly and from what I've seen, it can give answer to anything that Mathematica can + it gives you the step by step solution. My UNI have free Mathematica license and I am still trying to find a reason on why to use it, but even when I have free plan of Wolfram Alpha, I still prefer it over Mathematica

deep mango
neon violet
deep mango
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Yeah

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Wolfram alpha doesnt really give you fine tuned control over the kinds of things you want to do in numerical methods

woven whale
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sometimes it does

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but only in rare cases

neon violet
deep mango
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Yes, definitely

echo geode
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hello

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can someone help me

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i have an inequality problem

bright hill
echo geode
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didnt know

bright hill
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no worries catthumbsup

echo geode
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where can i ask for help?

bright hill
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but you should only do one of those things

bright hill
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Ok