serious-discussion

[bright hill]

Bruh

[fair mural]

noooo

[deep mango]

All that for bruh

Anyway

[bright hill]

Why are you waiting for me to finish typing?

[deep mango]

at least in the US, football fans are pretty annoying in my experience

[fair mural]

bruh

[unreal prairie]

hi

[deep mango]

Like

[bright hill]

Ello

[deep mango]

Because it's not as popular here the people who get super into it can get a little elitist i think

idk

[bright hill]

I sometimes pretend to know even less than I actually know

Just to make them seethe

[deep mango]

That makes sense

I do that here sometimes too

[bright hill]

Lmao

[deep mango]

I just like

can't remember the names of any of the players

or what they're supposed to be good at and stuff

[bright hill]

Mistaking Ronaldo for Messi is especially funny

[deep mango]

that's literally the example that came to mind

[bright hill]

most just laugh it off but others actually get upset hahaha

[deep mango]

yea

[bright hill]

Are they both alive btw

Aren't they 30 now or smth?

[deep mango]

they're both like 35

[bright hill]

Ye but like

Don't you stop playing once you're 35?

[neat frost]

Good morning DarQ!

[deep mango]

oh by alive you mean

playing

[neat frost]

Good morning ryc

[bright hill]

Ye

[neat frost]

We just proved the three/four isomorphism theorems in class

I basically caught them all one might say

[bright hill]

Literally who

[neat frost]

Asked

I did

[deep mango]

there's this one

diamond

[neat frost]

Me from the future. Anyway im sure aluffi gets to it at some point darq. dont feel bad

[deep mango]

G/H / K/H = G/K

or something

[neat frost]

Yes

[deep mango]

Wait thats wrong

[neat frost]

No

[bright hill]

Does Aluffi even call it first iso? Lmao

[neat frost]

G/K / H/K = G/H

[deep mango]

there

I know I just typed it wrong

[neat frost]

Yeah its okay

[bright hill]

I think he calls it canonical decomposition or smth

[deep mango]

and then is 4 the one where there's a bijection between subgroups of G which contain H and subgroups of G/H?

[neat frost]

You get a pass since i know you actually know what youre talking about (unlike darq)

[neat frost]

4th is some lattice isomorphism

[deep mango]

or is that the zassenhaus butterfly

[neat frost]

Yes

[deep mango]

oh

[neat frost]

Thats what that is

Though our prof did a shitty job proving it

[deep mango]

[neat frost]

he sorta handwaved a definition of lattices, then a handwave of what lattice isomorphism is, then totally handwaved the proof

[bright hill]

Tf is thi

[deep mango]

this is the butterfly lemma

[neat frost]

We did not discuss butterflies

Who gives a fuck about that lemma ryc

Why does it help

[deep mango]

I have no idea

[fair mural]

this is just simple arithmetic slurp, you truly are a baby

[neat frost]

quantum give me this one win

[fair mural]

absolutely not

[neat frost]

die.

[bright hill]

I was about to ask exactly that lmao

[neat frost]

Anyway DarQ how are you feeling now

[deep mango]

huh

[neat frost]

What is the Schreier refinement theorem?

[rocky shuttle]

That's why it's called butterfly lol

[deep mango]

so the schreier refinement theorem says that 2 subnormal series of the same group have an equivalent refinement

where like

[neat frost]

idk what a subnormal series or a refinment is

[deep mango]

a subnormal series of a group is a sequence of subgroups

${e} \subset H_1 \subset H_2 \subset \cdots \subset G$

[fathom swallow]

ryc

[deep mango]

so that each subgroup is normal in the next larger one

these are important for classifying groups

you're essentially splitting a group into nice pieces (the quotients H_k / H_k-1)

a refinement is just when you add more subgroups to the list while keeping it subnormal

so, in between existing ones, say

this is related to the lattice isomorphism theorem you proved

refining between H_k and H_k-1 is the same as picking a subgroup of H_k/H_k-1

so refining = breaking the pieces you split G into into even more pieces

the theorem says that any two subnormal series have equivalent refinements, i.e. if you break a group up in 2 ways, you can further break those pieces up so that the pieces are all in isomorphism

(bijection between the lists of quotients which puts the quotients in isomorphic pairs)

this lets you prove the Jordan Holder theorem, which is super important for classifying groups

The Jordan Holder Theorem says that composition series for groups are unique. A composition series is a subnormal series which is maximal: i.e. each subgroup is a maximal normal subgroup in the last one. equivalently, the quotients are simple groups (have no nontrivial normal subgroups)

if you've heard of the program to classify the finite simple groups, which was a huge huge program that is allegedly finished, that's step 1 in the program to classify all finite groups. step 2 is to use simple groups to uniquely build up all the finite groups (we know that works because of the jordan holder theorem)

step 2 is ridiculously hard. it's the "extension problem". if you give me groups H and K, and you claim to me that there's a group G so that H is a subgroup of G and G/H is K, then can I find G? How many G's are there?

so the butterfly lemma actually fits into an important story in algebra.

🦗

[sharp mulch]

ryc really do be writing essays out here

[neat lintel]

I wonder what would be his wpm count

[deep mango]

Coulda been a dialogue!

[neat frost]

Sorry im in a lecture. But i understand a chunk of this. Seems pretty stupid

And useless

groups are silly

[deep mango]

I agree, I hate it

Typing this put me into Wew's shoes and I feel like I contracted athlete's foot

[sharp mulch]

[brittle socket]

Hi ricey

[deep mango]

Hello grass

Ooh check out this cool group

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamplighter_group

It's like a turing machine group

[fair mural]

lamp lighter

[deep mango]

Yes, that's what it is

A sequence of lamps along with a person who can choose to turn them on and off

[sharp mulch]

[neat frost]

ryc's future job

[brittle socket]

[bright hill]

Pretty good

My nose still gets clogged from time to time for no fucking reason

But I'm pretty much healed

[deep mango]

I don't even get it

[bright hill]

You expect all of slurp's owns to hit the nail?

That's on you tbh

[long matrix]

@neat frost why dont u say good morning to me any more

[neat frost]

Change your fucking name

[deep mango]

At this point I'm not expecting the nail, I'm just hoping he'll stop hitting his thumb

[long matrix]

so if i do that ull say gm?

[neat frost]

Your job is going to be a lamp lighter

[deep mango]

They forgot the cheese on my breakfast sandwich

[neat frost]

If you change your name to something which i dont find harassing

[deep mango]

I put my own cheese on

[neat frost]

Twinzies!

[neat frost]

Poor poor ryc...

[long matrix]

my name wasnt harassing but ok done

[neat frost]

Good morning Shuri!

[long matrix]

slurp making a big deal outof nothing

[deep mango]

I didn't put enough cheese on

[long matrix]

Good morning schnoodles!

[rocky shuttle]

Good morning schnoodles!

[neat frost]

Shuri your name was both harassing, bigotted, insulting, sexist, homophobic, antisemitic, and racist

Yeah fuck off

[long matrix]

[bright hill]

Schnoodles.

[long matrix]

great name

[neat frost]

Destroyer of schnoodles like the idea or me

[long matrix]

yes

[deep mango]

What is this name

I put more cheese on

[rocky shuttle]

rycheese

[long matrix]

ryc gimme my rice back

[bright hill]

Is it convoluted enough for you now?

[neat frost]

Thanks!

[long matrix]

btw do u know what 'both' means schlurples?

[neat frost]

Darq i hope you never need anything from me

[neat frost]

i was gonna make a comment about that

[deep mango]

I am not the richeese guy

[neat frost]

but no one noticed so i didnt

[bright hill]

Where's the punchline?

[long matrix]

ok.

[neat frost]

no punchline, it was a threat

[long matrix]

yes, let's hear it

[bright hill]

???

What threat

[neat frost]

DarQ im never coming to another one of your stupid streams

Youre still coming to mine tho btw

[long matrix]

is ok slurp, we wouldnt want you ruining our cat stream

which may or may not have happened yet

[bright hill]

Hmm

No.

[neat frost]

You pose a strong argument

[deep mango]

Who's streaming

Oh I forgot about the world cup

[neat frost]

darq at some point

[deep mango]

😭

[neat frost]

though i cant join this week

[deep mango]

What...

What do you have to do that's more important

Than darq's stream

[neat frost]

Some tests

Some hw

food

sleep

pirating tv shows

[nocturne solar]

My high school has a math course which covers introductory group theory and introductory linear algebra. It is the most advanced math course available at my high school. I'm currently taking this course, and it is fun.

[neat frost]

Okay? Name all the groups

[bright hill]

THAT'S WHAT IM SAYING

[deep mango]

Definitely bad ones

[neat frost]

nah nah nah poo poo i cant hear you

[neat frost]

yeah i started watching Manifest and its both bad and weirdly religious

[deep mango]

Maybe you could if you actually read what I wrote

What the hell is Manifest

When are you watching survivor

[neat frost]

but i looked it up and its not really religious it just uses religion as a plot driver

[neat frost]

never? i dont watch reality tv

[neat frost]

Subnormal sequences?

[deep mango]

You're a subnormal sequence

[neat frost]

i said all groups, not just finite+simple groups

[bright hill]

Why?

[neat frost]

silly ryc

[deep mango]

Didn't read

[neat frost]

ryc

i read

[deep mango]

Anyway

[neat frost]

i didnt understand

[neat frost]

why to what

[bright hill]

Silly slurp

All

[deep mango]

All groups are subgroups of S_n for n any cardinal

[neat frost]

Yes

[bright hill]

Groups are finite simple groups

[neat frost]

G <= S_G

[frail lagoon]

and be a finite simple group

of order 2

[bright hill]

Why manifest?

[neat frost]

wtf is a simple group

i was looking for tv shows

[bright hill]

Moonshine ooooo

[torn willow]

Hi DrarQ,my long lost cousin

[deep mango]

No normal subbies

[frail lagoon]

a simple group $G$ is a lil groupie boi such that the only normal subgroups r $G$ and $1$

[fathom swallow]

potato

[neat frost]

oh wait i know what a simple group is

yeah okat

[frail lagoon]

i.e. no interesting quotients

[bright hill]

Sup drake

[neat frost]

So

what about all the interesting nonsimple groups

[deep mango]

Oh my god

I told you about the extension problem

[neat frost]

Oh wait i missed step 2

Okay so what about infinite groups

[bright hill]

What's the extension problem?

[neat frost]

Scroll up dark

[bright hill]

They dumb lel

[neat frost]

no

Thats not true!

[deep mango]

Infinite groups are just like

[long matrix]

meow

[deep mango]

Multiply with Z

Or something

[neat frost]

Wow ryc the algebraist

[long matrix]

@deep mango this is close to what u be
https://sebastiancarlos.medium.com/how-i-quit-my-programmer-job-to-become-a-chicken-b733c20680b1

[frail lagoon]

Me

[neat frost]

ryc is a pigeon

[deep mango]

I'm a seabird

I'm a shearwater

[long matrix]

pigeon

[deep mango]

If i was a pokemon

Which one would you make me

[bright hill]

I'm a cube

🧊

:)

[long matrix]

pidgey

like did u even need to

ask

[deep mango]

So you'll let me evolve into pidgeot

[long matrix]

let you?

where are you going to find the exp

i think ull stay at lvl 1 for a lifetime

[deep mango]

Yes

Anyway

Why not pidove

[long matrix]

pidgey, use peck on that slurp

[deep mango]

Pidove is way more like me

[long matrix]

,w pidove

ah cant see

ryc wanting to be a dove clearly

this like ryc ?

[deep mango]

[hoary sentinel]

can anyone help me at simple physics, im stressing out

[neat frost]

#❓how-to-get-help

[hoary sentinel]

yea, but its for math only

[neat frost]

What

Sure

[hoary sentinel]

what dont you understand

huh

wdym

[neat frost]

Then go to #old-network

Why would you even ask for help on something unrelated to math on a math server

[hoary sentinel]

the physics server kinda suck tbf

[long matrix]

its more appropriate to ask in the help channels

[bright hill]

It's not

[neat frost]

There are tons of servers which do physics stuff

[long matrix]

than in the discussion channels

[neat frost]

theres not only one

[bright hill]

You're just less likely to get help

[neat frost]

This server is for math and image processing only

[long matrix]

what the hell is DrarQ

[hoary sentinel]

2 ppl from here actually helped me on physics

so yeah

[bright hill]

Dunno

[long matrix]

dunno? you made it

[bright hill]

Illum called me that

So ig I'm drarq now

[hoary sentinel]

if anyome is willing to help me im stuck at moment forces

[long matrix]

what pokemon would slurp be hmmm

[hoary sentinel]

are you sure

[neat frost]

Just ask in a help channel

[hoary sentinel]

i will

[neat frost]

good

were discussing pokemon now

[hoary sentinel]

lmao

[neat frost]

super mega big bad strong fire dragon

[long matrix]

oh i know

slurp is a nidoran

[hoary sentinel]

are you good at physics btw

[neat frost]

Im a fucking god at physics

But i dont offer help to mere mortals

[long matrix]

bruh stop harassing ppl to help and just go ask in a help channel

[hoary sentinel]

lmaoo

[long matrix]

hep is voluntary

[neat frost]

you must first pass my here 36 trials

[hoary sentinel]

gimme ur hardest challenge

[long matrix]

which one

[hoary sentinel]

pink

[long matrix]

i think the last one is more like slurp

[neat frost]

No

[alpine kindle]

the girl

[neat frost]

Mega big bad super strong fire breathing poison seeping eyebrow raising dragon

[long matrix]

no slurp ur not a dragon...

[neat frost]

yes i AM

[long matrix]

lets see... what cat pokemon are there

[neat frost]

IM A FOX

[long matrix]

ah yeah, im a mew

[deep mango]

If slurp is a dragon it's some cringy dratini

Hahaha

[long matrix]

heheheheh

[neat frost]

ryc go fuck yourself

[deep mango]

No you're not a mew

[long matrix]

yes i am

mew mew

[deep mango]

Dummy

[neat frost]

shuri too

shuri is like

that fat monkey shit

[long matrix]

im a lvl 1 mew who only knows transform

thats good for me

[neat frost]

the one that sleeps all the time

[deep mango]

Shuri you're a fucking alolan persian

[neat frost]

Im eevee

[long matrix]

bruh

no, thats det

[deep mango]

Or you're purugly

[neat frost]

oh right

okay

No

[long matrix]

ur ugly

im a mew

[neat frost]

No u

no

[deep mango]

lol this is totally shuri

[neat frost]

no that cat is too sexy

[deep mango]

That's literally purugly

[neat frost]

smash

[deep mango]

here's alolan persian

[long matrix]

ill be a mew, slurp can be whatever dragon he wants smh

[neat frost]

yes this is ryc

i mean shuri

or ryc

[deep mango]

No way

ok

NO

I'm not fucking persian

[neat frost]

yeah its you ryc

RACIST

[neat lintel]

Shuri is gigantamax meowth

[neat frost]

Whats wrong with being persian?

[deep mango]

ok the jokes are over

literally everyone knows

that i'm corviknight

[long matrix]

[neat lintel]

Ew

Yes.

[neat frost]

PIGEON

LOL

[deep mango]

LOL

[neat frost]

ryc is a pigeon

[long matrix]

ill stick to being a mew

[deep mango]

Nope

I'm not a pigeon

[neat frost]

ryc is pidove

[deep mango]

Ok at worst I'll allow corvisquire

[long matrix]

,w corviknight

[fathom swallow]

Results provided by WolframAlpha

Click here to refine your query online
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Requested by Shuri2060#9525

[neat lintel]

(Btw alcremie is much cuter)

[neat frost]

I wanna be an emo pokemon

[long matrix]

doesnt say its species

[deep mango]

here's corvisquire, he's cool

[neat frost]

No

ryc is pidove

[deep mango]

that's me

[neat frost]

all in favor?

[long matrix]

doesnt look like a cat

[neat frost]

🖐️

[long matrix]

no hes a pidgey

[neat lintel]

Oh

Uhhhh then idk

[long matrix]

ill be a litten

[deep mango]

pidove has good evolutions

[neat frost]

then pidegy it is

[deep mango]

when shuri evolves...

[neat frost]

motion carried unanimously

[long matrix]

no i wont

so whats slurp meant to be

[neat frost]

i wanna be a really hot pokemon

[neat lintel]

Also ryc is kyogre

[deep mango]

when i evolve im gonna be this cool pokemon

[long matrix]

ok, ur a jynx, slurp

evolving is for noobs

[neat frost]

bet

[deep mango]

kyogre is kind of a good call

[neat frost]

im a jynx, bitches

[neat lintel]

It can levetate (fly)

[deep mango]

you're not a jynx

[long matrix]

i call bs

[neat frost]

Ha! evolution is a hoax made up by the leftists and mark twain

[deep mango]

dude can you believe someone gets paid to write articles like this

https://www.thegamer.com/pokemon-best-fox-ranked/

[neat lintel]

Man no one gets the joke

[neat frost]

yes

i can

[deep mango]

that is wild

[neat frost]

what joke

[neat lintel]

Thank you slurp

Oh

[long matrix]

it knows fly?

[neat frost]

oh

[neat lintel]

Well levetate

[neat frost]

i missed the joke pencil

didnt see the post

[frigid matrix]

you cannot spell

you should fix this

[long matrix]

i dont get the joke

[neat lintel]

I forgot the spelling

[deep mango]

you're totally nickit

[neat frost]

i dont get it

[long matrix]

levitate

[neat lintel]

Okay anyways

[long matrix]

kyogre has drizzle

[deep mango]

this is slurp

[long matrix]

if rycs a kyogre

[deep mango]

like

[long matrix]

wherever he goes, it rains

[deep mango]

to a tee

I like the rain!

[frigid matrix]

this image makes me uncomfortable

[neat frost]

YESYESYESYESYES

[long matrix]

idk what this even is

[deep mango]

it's nickit

from sword and shield

[neat frost]

IT IS ME

[long matrix]

so slurp always nicks stuff

[deep mango]

shouldn't you know the pokemon from your homeland?

[long matrix]

wheres ss based?

[deep mango]

YO

shuri you can be purrloin!

[frigid matrix]

ohio

[neat lintel]

LOL

[deep mango]

britain

[neat frost]

ss based in germany no?

[long matrix]

what?

[deep mango]

you're both nasty thieves

[neat frost]

[deep mango]

bruh it's literally called the galar region, have you seen leon that guy is british as fuck

[long matrix]

oh galars based on uk, ok

[deep mango]

dumbfucks

[long matrix]

bruh i aint playing them new games

i thought this was a joke

[neat lintel]

There's also gigantamax Charizard

[deep mango]

Can you believe the pokemon anime is still a thing

like

[long matrix]

ur a smeargle

[long matrix]

i randomly heard the news the fucker finally won

[true bough]

yeah they’re still airing

[frigid matrix]

gigchad meowth

[deep mango]

im on the pokemon sword and shield page and there's this Goh companion dude

[long matrix]

mad it didnt happen 2 yrs ago

[deep mango]

where's misty? where's brock?

[long matrix]

haha.

cameos at least.

[neat lintel]

I mean except the eyes, smeargle is pretty okay

[split island]

Ryc is a gen oner

[deep mango]

i did see that

KANTOOOOOO

[frigid matrix]

Misty 🤨

[long matrix]

XYZ anime is where it shouldve ended

that was gud

[long matrix]

ur a kirby

[split island]

Uh one sec

[deep mango]

was the XYZ anime like

[deep mango]

uhh

[long matrix]

oh no, u can be a ditto lel

[deep mango]

that's after unova

[neat frost]

Hi kirby!

[neat lintel]

Ryc there's also gigantamax corviknight

[deep mango]

unova black and white

[long matrix]

kalos

yes it would be

[neat lintel]

Megas

[long matrix]

there was this ninja pokemon

with a super cool transformation

[true bough]

greninja?

[neat lintel]

Greninja

[deep mango]

yes this is me

thank you kirby

[long matrix]

bird of doom

[true bough]

ash greninja is cool

[deep mango]

i literally know no new pokemon

[long matrix]

despite you rattling off like 10 ss names

[split island]

Mfw my university has GENSHIN classes

[deep mango]

greninja is the best pokemon in the last several gens

[split island]

I needed to crop names

[long matrix]

graded?

[true bough]

and theres ultra beast shit

[deep mango]

im looking them up

[true bough]

like wtf is that supposed to be

[split island]

Hi slurp

[deep mango]

where do you think i found that article about the 10 best fox pokemon

[long matrix]

hmm what pokemon is deep

[bright hill]

[split island]

Idk how these classes work

[bright hill]

Based

[long matrix]

i think mniip has to be our meowth

[split island]

There was one on competitive Pokémon this semester

[true bough]

i like mudkip

[neat lintel]

Mudkip is cute yes

[long matrix]

this is u darq

eiscue

[deep mango]

you're mudkip anyway deep

[true bough]

[deep mango]

LMAO

yes

[split island]

Eiscue is a good mon

[neat frost]

genshin is hentai?

[split island]

My favorite Pokémon is frosmoth

[long matrix]

r u ok

[neat frost]

omg

[split island]

There are children

[neat frost]

GenShiN

[long matrix]

slurp wtf are u on about

[neat frost]

idk wtf genshin is, i just looked it up and it looks like hentai

[long matrix]

?????

its a fuckign mobile game

[neat lintel]

It's a game.

[neat frost]

not my fault

[long matrix]

rpg

[deep mango]

it's a game...

is zhongli from genshin

[true bough]

[long matrix]

my favourite competitive pokemon is shedinja

so op

[neat frost]

Okay?
And that means it cant be hentai?

[bright hill]

[oblique river]

the fu-

[split island]

Someone left their uneaten Starbucks food on a bench

[neat frost]

Its literally hentai

[true bough]

lol

[neat lintel]

And h*ntai results are censored on google when not on incognito

[split island]

Do I commit poor and immoral college student and take it

[long matrix]

slurp has safe search off for reasons

[neat frost]

game and hentai have non trivial intersection

[deep mango]

it makes sense that shuri would like bug pokemon

[bright hill]

Silly slurp

[neat lintel]

Oh

[long matrix]

ok...

[neat frost]

@split island yes

[split island]

Good

[deep mango]

no way

[split island]

I was hungry

[deep mango]

not unless it's like

[long matrix]

wow so much hentai here slurp
https://i.imgur.com/40uLBnB.jpeg

[deep mango]

sealed

[bright hill]

"can't be hentai" is semantically nonsense

[neat frost]

what was it?

[sharp mulch]

I mean

[split island]

I’m in the math building that looks like a turtle rn

[neat frost]

I know your name now Jonah

[deep mango]

mention genshin
ange appears

[sharp mulch]

I would totally believe the majority of genshin content online being horny

[long matrix]

keep trying

[neat lintel]

I saw someone play genshin once it's literally hentai

[sharp mulch]

I just finished planning a cairo trip

[neat lintel]

Lmfao

[neat frost]

Jacqueline

[neat lintel]

Jesse

[deep mango]

Jerard

[split island]

Shuri’s name is clearly Jslurp

[neat lintel]

Jschlatt

[sharp mulch]

Tomorrow I will try to get my flights changed so that I can upgrade to first class

[deep mango]

Jennifer Lopez

[bright hill]

JShlurp

[long matrix]

joodles

[neat frost]

Jordana

[deep mango]

Jorge Efeh

[long matrix]

awesome

https://i.imgur.com/ebbzydK.png

[neat frost]

shuri is pikachu

a fucking rodent

[long matrix]

wouldnt mind it

[true bough]

pikachu looks fat

chonke

[long matrix]

chubby chu

[true bough]

[neat lintel]

What's your fav mega

[neat frost]

mega nuts

[true bough]

[neat lintel]

Based

[sharp mulch]

Kind of weird how fav is pronounced fav and not fav

[long matrix]

competitive its mega sableye

[true bough]

[neat lintel]

The floor is pronounced as floor and not floor

[long matrix]

design, maybe zard X

[true bough]

mega gengar looks sick

[neat lintel]

Mine is mega rayquaza

[sharp mulch]

"basic"

[neat lintel]

Yes even mega gengar is decent

[sharp mulch]

"basic"

[long matrix]

ur basic

[neat lintel]

Wat

[neat frost]

the fact that you guys unironically have so much pokemon knowledge is cringe

[true bough]

[neat frost]

boomers get a life

[long matrix]

ur the cringe one slurp

get a life and play some games

[true bough]

slurp play pokémon

!!

[neat frost]

no

[bright hill]

My pokemon knowledge is Pikachu is yellow

[long matrix]

i play smogon whenever im bored these days

[neat frost]

darq is based for once

[neat lintel]

I never really watched Pokemon anime, but rather learned about through discord bots lol

[bright hill]

😃

[true bough]

i used to spend hours watching pokemon

[bright hill]

Oh also

[true bough]

good ol days

[neat frost]

hours spent not learning tex

[long matrix]

mrow

deeps better than u

[bright hill]

There's meowing or smth

[long matrix]

remember the score?

2-0

[true bough]

[bright hill]

It's some cat pokemon that's pretty tall

[neat lintel]

Meowing?

[neat frost]

shuri id rather not help than help you

[long matrix]

meowth maybe

[long matrix]

slurp ur just helpless

[bright hill]

And Charizard is a thing

[neat frost]

id prefer if you didnt harass me

[bright hill]

That's literally it lmao

[long matrix]

i dont harass people

the only one accusing me of such is u

[neat frost]

i only know pikachu, bulbasour, charizard, and mime dude

and team rokett

[true bough]

mime jr looks cute

[neat lintel]

Zygarde-complete is very awesome too

[long matrix]

eh?

i dont rate it

i like 10%

as well as the cell

[true bough]

Yveltal seems better

,w mime jr curve

hm

,ping

[neat lintel]

Ded

[true bough]

[long matrix]

,w slurp keeps breaking this bot

[long matrix]

perfectt

@surreal sapphire we would like to patent a new sticker

[neat lintel]

Perfect

[surreal sapphire]

stickers have to be square

[long matrix]

add more red

[surreal sapphire]

i mean

[rocky shuttle]

more red?

[long matrix]

^

[frigid matrix]

what the hell is that sticker

[chilly hull]

https://imgur.com/53LbYoF

[neat lintel]

Algebruh

[chilly hull]

hello discussion

[neat lintel]

Hello cat bread

[long matrix]

hellow kitty kitty

fluffy

[true bough]

fluffy cat bread

[long matrix]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-cosy-cuddle-big-cat-fluffy-gif-16625654

big bread

[true bough]

aww

[rocky shuttle]

ohh, that's what you meant

[long matrix]

[rocky shuttle]

further adjustments?

[long matrix]

i think it looks v good

modmail it ig

[marble quail]

hello

[deep mango]

[rocky shuttle]

don't you love it?

[sharp mulch]

ryc's discussion simps strike again

[deep mango]

Ridiculous

[neat lintel]

[sharp mulch]

Memes go in #chill thank you

[golden pendant]

any nice interpretations for this?

seems too nice to be jsut a coincidence

[long matrix]

[golden pendant]

would the integral of e^t^3 be ~ to e^x^3/3x^2?!

[long matrix]

draw the blumming graphs on desmos and interpret it

[golden pendant]

i dont think this would give me an interpretation

they merge together

the 2 graphs

and this result too

its weird

yeah i see this but whats the intuition

something here is fishy

e^x^2 /2x is e^u/du

so were saying the integral of e^u is equivalent to e^u/du?

[cold lantern]

If I have found a significantly shorter proof for computing X, how should I name my paper?

[frail lagoon]

i mean it is also clear that the derivatives of both agree

ofc, integrating doesn't always play nice with asymptotics, but ye

[cold lantern]

and X is like a theorem

[frail lagoon]

computing a theorem?

[cold lantern]

proving a theorem

by a simpler and shorter computation

isnt there some standard way to name stuff like this

[frail lagoon]

i feel like i've seen a fair number of papers like "A short proof of [...]" or something to that effect

or "Another proof of" or whatever

[golden pendant]

wdym

[golden pendant]

and wdym

[viscid otter]

is this real ???

[long matrix]

thats my cat you're looking at

[split island]

Yes

[viscid otter]

holy crap

[split island]

I’ve seen shuri’s cat too

[frail lagoon]

Uh just because two functions are asymptotic doesn't mean their indefinite integrals are in general

I fink

But here it's fine as both functions go to infinity so you can use lhopital

[bright hill]

It's insane how many public figures have openly admitted to having depression

Michael Phelps, lady gaga, Kate pary, princess Diana...

Even Abraham Lincoln had it lmfao

Bruh, how tf do all these hyper successful people have depression

Sounds contradictory to me

[fervent pebble]

no one needs a reason to be depressed

[neat lintel]

it's not like being successful <=> happiness.

you can achieve a lot and still feel empty

[frail lagoon]

If anything I would expect depression to be more popular among public figures

well, if it develops after they become famous

[neat lintel]

I mean like just look at sam from icarly. seemed like her role in the TV show messed her up

gotta remember that being successful or being famous your still human like anyone else. I think it can only seem like they're beyond getting depressed when you start to idolize them and don't see them as just normal people

[vivid halo]

yeah that was definitely TV's fault and not Dan Schneider's fault

[neat lintel]

?

idrk too much about what happened but I was using it as an example of how famous people can still have problems that affect them emotionally

[deep mango]

I saw DarQ's point as being, it's very difficult to become hyper-successful if you are struggling with this sort of thing

So I think the important distinction is what potato said, that many times this could come afterwards

(But it's also important to note that there's a huge difference in visibility here)

[long matrix]

i would guess most(?) people go through some sort of something in their lives.
an unstressful path to success is pretty much impossible so I imagine it amplifies the possibility of this sort of thing

[neat lintel]

yes

[neat lintel]

yes?

[fair mural]

no

[long matrix]

meow

[neat lintel]

how much calculus do you have to remember to take "advanced calculus" or "intro to analysis"

[storm sage]

ask the professor teaching the course

it'll depend on what exactly they're teaching in the course

[wooden flax]

this is sounding like spivak

or something similar

in which case formally none, but you should still have a barebones udnerstanding

[neat lintel]

it can vary? it's just called advanced calculus

[storm sage]

advanced calculus is a p vague name

do you know if there's a syllabus

[neat lintel]

this is the course description

[storm sage]

okay I would recommend knowing two semesters of calc then

usually they teach taylor series in a second semester of calculus

if you have two semesters of calculus experience, then you're probably set

[neat lintel]

I have the experience, but I completely forgot about taylor series

[storm sage]

rip

I would review a bit

[neat lintel]

I remember liking power series, but we barely had time to cover taylor

[storm sage]

looks like you won't go over power series until the end of that course, so you have time

[storm sage]

taylor series and power series are the same

(for this purpose)

[neat lintel]

do i have to review all those tests?

the series tests

[storm sage]

yeah they're helpful

[neat lintel]

and limit rules?

[storm sage]

yeah

you'll prob formally prove them in the adv calc course

but it helps to know what they are and why they're useful first

[neat lintel]

I just figure that taking analysis will show me whether I really like math or not

[neat lintel]

it will show one thing: whether your weak minded or a dedicated person willing to spend time learning and overcoming challenges

[surreal sapphire]

eh, i didnt enjoy my analysis class

i still like math

[fading zealot]

Sculpture of various irregular shapes based on the dodecahedron, seen in Nangang Software Park
(couldn't check if all of them are irregular, the one on the lower front looks awfully Platonic)

[neat lintel]

nanjiang&

[mortal oyster]

Looks awesome

And perhaps bearing polyhedra are most bearing, when they are regular, but I'm no engineer.

[stiff pecan]

No pain, no gain.

[stiff pecan]

if the string is "xxx", then the whole text is "sendgb.com/xxx"

[torn willow]

So how do you prove programs work in Haskell? For imperative programs, Hoare logic exists and is easy to use kind of informally via loop invariants and such

How do you argue about Haskell programs in a similar way

A loop invariant completely specifies what a loop should do. What's a similar construct in Haskell

[stiff pecan]

This is a normal discussion room, not secret.

[torn willow]

The problem is wrt lazy evaluation

[neat lintel]

lambda

[rocky shuttle]

mu

[neat lintel]

lamda deeeznuts

[analog hedge]

hi

[storm sage]

The same way you prove that mathematical recursively defined functions do the things they're supposed to, I guess

[vagrant timber]

Crazy that this was so recent, I was just thinking about this today! Where can I go to actually engage in debate and exchange thoughts about economics? IMO Reddit or Twitter is not a good platform for longer, engaging discussion.

[leaden torrent]

debating economics on the internet seems like the most miserable use of time possible

especially since most of the people who want to do it cant explain the difference between monetary and fiscal policy

[fair mural]

lol

[vagrant timber]

Debating [INSERT TOPIC] on the internet seems like the most miserable use of time possible.

FTFY.

It depends on the parties having the discussion.

[leaden torrent]

no economics seems particularly bad because it falls into that sweet spot of where everyone has an opinion but very few people know what theyre talking about

to borrow a famous quote, no one goes online to argue with geologists about how igneous rocks are bullshit

[vagrant timber]

I think that's precisely the reason to have accessible forums for discussion. Otherwise you just get echo chambers where people feel like they're correct simply because everyone else thinks the same way.

[neat lintel]

wwdym lol

[leaden torrent]

i mean, go onto your local newspaper's comment section on any economics-related article

and tell me the quality of discussion you see within

[neat lintel]

i personally think

physics>math

[sharp mulch]

Stunning opinion

[neat lintel]

thats just me tho

i understand if others dont agree

[leaden torrent]

or econjobrumors lmao

like econjobrumors is theoretically the closest thing to what youre describing out there

and it is a trashfire

[vagrant timber]

That's not what I want to be able to do though. I'd rather be able to leave a comment on those articles linking to a platform that was designed with discussion & debate in mind. Those article publishers don't give two shits about the discussion going in their comments - as long as you're there they can charge advertisers for views. The discussion is only as good as the platform allows for.

It really sounds like it's just an opportunity to create something like this. I really like this this project called Discourse: https://www.discourse.org/. I hope forums catch on again.

[untold sage]

"Academic Economics" and "Unlearning Economics Official" seem decent

They are discord servers

[vagrant timber]

A discussion platform where the discussion topics are statements about some truth would be pretty awesome. Instead of asking questions (like on StackExchange), you start with a statement - kind of like https://www.reddit.com/r/changemyview/

Taking advantage of Cunningham's Law: "the best way to get the right answer on the internet is not to ask a question; it's to post the wrong answer."

[amber orbit]

what's the original quote

[leaden torrent]

exactly that

[golden pendant]

group morphisms from Q,+ to Z,+

[sleek wing]

Shut the flip up!!

[neat lintel]

sorry hombre

hombre=man

[rancid meadow]

no its Not 👍

[surreal sapphire]

@stuck vapor this server is about serious discussions of mathematics, i expect you to not post nonsense again

[sharp mulch]

#❓how-to-get-help

[stark pelican]

there are conflicts because there was already an update to the tests on master. You'll need to merge master into your branch to get the remote changes and then update and commit again the tests

Does anyone know what I should do if someone tells me this

(This is github)

I am very noob at this

[rocky shuttle]

You'll need to merge master into your branch to get the remote changes and then update and commit again the tests.

[wooden flax]

SInce a lot of people here are fountain pen lovers, are any of these good? https://www.gouletpens.com/collections/pen-sales-deals

[sharp mulch]

Do you have experience with fountain pens

[fair mural]

shut the flip up

[proud olive]

Wowowowow language

[sleek wing]

shut the flip up!

[fair mural]

excuse me it’s C*

[sleek wing]

very well observed

[wooden flax]

i have a pilot metro

thats it

[zealous garden]

$C\star$

[sharp mulch]

What is your budget

[fathom swallow]

wraithlord_□

[wooden flax]

~30

[sharp mulch]

[wooden flax]

lol its low

[fair mural]

small think

[sharp mulch]

I was going to suggest a maki-e fountain pen but those are usually around $200

[wooden flax]

lol

[sharp mulch]

But none of the namiki pens are on sale

(for good reason)

[wooden flax]

makes sense

[sharp mulch]

Yes, and they're very pretty as well

Also please don't ping me

[neat lintel]

I have the option to walk up to people on the street and kick them in the stomach. Does that mean I should?

[sleek wing]

why are you so uptight and angry over a simple request

[deep mango]

It's just a courtesy that some people ask

[sleek wing]

are you this impolite irl

[deep mango]

Common sense and courtesy in fact

[neat lintel]

What the fuck are you talking about?

[sleek wing]

your psychosis larp is unrealistic

[zealous garden]

can you code to shut up

[neat lintel]

Touch grass.

Okay, I'm bored now. I hope that everyone has a good evening, it is dinner time.

[zealous garden]

mmm yeah I'm hungry too rakko

[neat lintel]

Thinking of getting some kind of sandwich with a coffee.

Not exactly dinner food, but whatever.

[sleek wing]

I do think it's a bit odd myself but if they don't want to be pinged it's minimal effort to not ping them

[leaden torrent]

this counts as client-side modding and is against TOS, please do not encourage it on this server

and just like... respect peoples' wishes?

??

[sleek wing]

the principle block of discord

[zealous garden]

I don't know what I am surprised by more, client side modding is against TOS, or client side mods are a thing

[neat lintel]

Look at all of the bad or missing features Discord has, and how unresponsive the developers are. It shouldn't be surprising that people want to take it into their own hands.

Namington, this is not an endorsement.

[leaden torrent]

pretty sure its meant to be an anti-selfbotting measure

but yeah

"discord is very good at developing"
in-built role select feature:

[neat lintel]

Lightmode is literally a flashlight.

[zealous garden]

I don't know what bad or missing features you're talking about

lightmode is always trash

it's lightmode

I haven't seen a good lightmode in like 10 years though

[neat lintel]

Lightmode being obnoxiously bright aside, the colors don't even match well. It's hard to read.

Lighter role names are literally unreadable.

That was one reason the honorable names got changed to a slightly darker gold.

Well, all roles, I think.

[zealous garden]

I can't empathize with lightmode users

[neat lintel]

Light mode users do not have eyes.

[zealous garden]

you're choosing to suffer

[sleek wing]

it's their own fault for being skinwalkers

[zealous garden]

exactly

not knowingly

[neat lintel]

There is just too little contrast between the white background and the text.

[leaden torrent]

i know someone who uses light mode because of a vision disability that makes dark mode cause them headaches

i also know a couple people who just prefer it

[neat lintel]

This is awful.

[zealous garden]

that is the opposite of what you would expect

lmfao even that embed is hurting my eyes

too bright

[void isle]

Guys

I got a question

[sharp mulch]

#❓how-to-get-help

[proud olive]

Have you tried asking [REDACTED]?

[void isle]

:0

[long matrix]

wrong channel

[void isle]

Oh I was confused on where my channel went

When I like made it

found out a few minutes later that it just automatically like hid itself for some reason

Lol

Idk like yeah

I like

went to another channel and it went poof

So I was like

Did a mod delete my channel? I asked my question in a precise manner

[sharp mulch]

#help-24 ?

[void isle]

Yeah found it a while ago

I want to go into engineering and like the university I want to go into requires like a goddam 90% and up grade and I was liek. I'm dead bruh

I need like english, physics, calculus and vector, and all that stuff

[wooden flax]

Ange do you know any good budget pens

or budget inks?

[sharp mulch]

I mean I don't actually write anything nowadays

[proud olive]

bic pens are pretty good

They're cheap and they feel nice to write with

[sharp mulch]

Presumably invictus is referring to fountain pens

[proud olive]

Oh lame

[balmy maple]

what kind of goofy ahh form is this bruh 💀

just ask for the equation and the roots oh my god

lil princess ass question needs the polynomial in the exact form or it throws a fit

[zealous garden]

#❓how-to-get-help

[balmy maple]

not asking for help

just pointing and laughing

[zealous garden]

#chill

[balmy maple]

ik how to do it its just a pain in the ass lol

https://tenor.com/view/no-memes-in-general-gif-20201366

sorry sorry i had to

[sharp mulch]

[frank orchid]

Foss notability alternatives? If Joplin how can I transfer notes from notability to joplin?

[bright hill]

how about THE FUCKING MOBILE APP

[neat frost]

What’s the issue with it?

[charred wren]

also, a question

is mathematics physically painful or exhausting to you?

[eager reef]

physically?

[lavish briar]

Hi

I'm new

Hey

[neat lintel]

Everyone’s ignoring me in discussion 1

How do y’all take notes?

Both lecture and reading?

Need some tips.

[tight dock]

i read mostly

i can remeber that way

[placid quartz]

me usually don't take notes

[tight dock]

the information seeps into my skull

[tight dock]

GASP

u heathen

[placid quartz]

.<

i can't take notes and understand the lecture at the same time

[neat lintel]

Yeah.

That’s basically what I’ve been doing.

[tight dock]

oooh