serious-discussion

[fathom swallow]

smoobles

[neat lintel]

must get better

I still make errors in those problems

[gritty flower]

Hmmm time to learn

$1 +1$

[fathom swallow]

Kevin ☕

[gritty flower]

$2³ =/ 9$

[fathom swallow]

Kevin ☕

[gritty flower]

Hmm

$x½$

[fathom swallow]

Kevin ☕

[gritty flower]

$x^1/2$

[fathom swallow]

Kevin ☕

[gritty flower]

How tf you square root

[neat frost]

$\sqrt{x}$

[neat frost]

But next time in #latex-testing

[gritty flower]

@neat frost okok

[alpine kindle]

which is also equal to (a-b)³

(in char 3)

[fair mural]

[zealous garden]

Today I realized that the exterior algebra is just the geometric algebra when r=n

(r=n -> Q(v)=0)

[neat lintel]

what's that

[fair mural]

nothing important, just some random unnecessary joke

[arctic grove]

hey grass

[alpine kindle]

the characteristic of a ring R is the smallest positive integer n such that
1+...+1 (n times) = 0
where 1 and 0 are the multiplicative and additive identities in R

if such a number doesn't exist, then the characteristic is said to be 0

[bright hill]

No smartass, holier-than-thou know-it-all attitude?

[zealous garden]

*holier-than-thou

[bright hill]

A "I'm actually a dumbo that don't know shit, this is just what I read from pop-sci" disclaimer?

I'm actually disappointed

[bright hill]

Screw you lol

[zealous garden]

lmfao

[bright hill]

There

Happy now?

[zealous garden]

[neat lintel]

what's wrong with that

[neat frost]

I don’t do that silly

[bright hill]

Fuck, slurp saw it

[neat frost]

Especially not with physics. Knowing physics is a sign of stupidity

Which I am not

[neat lintel]

I feel really ashamed at the amount of pop sci stuff I've read throughout my life in comparison to actual science

[neat frost]

I am the smartest

[bright hill]

Now it's significantly less funny

[neat frost]

Yeah well DarQ go fuck yourself

Good morning DarQ!

[zealous garden]

are you guys gonna fight

[bright hill]

Morning slurpy durpie

[neat frost]

No I would beat him

No fun in that

[zealous garden]

1v1 in minecraft

no totems no enchants

[neat frost]

Hmm

Hard pass

[neat lintel]

allow a totem for darq

[neat frost]

I’m no geek. I don’t play Minecraft

[bright hill]

Oh yes

[neat lintel]

slurp clearly doesn't need it

darq is into being beat seemingly

[bright hill]

With that *squeak* *squeak*...

I won't stand a chance

[neat lintel]

we will do a math duel, renaissance Italy style

[neat frost]

Idk what that means but I’m inclined to disagree

[neat lintel]

if you can factor and solve this cubic polynomial with complex roots you win

[neat frost]

Hmm

Pass

[bright hill]

Shuuuuuuure

Sure

Squeaky boy

[neat frost]

Hmm

[neat lintel]

can you guys recommend me a good practice routine

[zealous garden]

read, think really hard, write some stuff, repeat

[neat lintel]

too vague

genuinely though

I think a lot about the arc length of the circle

[zealous garden]

the circumference?

[neat lintel]

I always imagine it as a thread that I can flatten out and measure on a number line like a ruler

yeah circumference

is there proof of its relationship to the radius?

[zealous garden]

yes

[neat lintel]

the phrasing is wrong, what I mean is, give me the proof

NOW

[zealous garden]

sorry, proof machine broke

[fair mural]

proof or it didn’t happen

[zealous garden]

qed

[west kelp]

Hello

[fading surge]

@frigid matrix hi

wanna talk in DM?

[odd narwhal]

why are you @ ing random users to talk in dms?

[snow spear]

Everything in the galaxy is sort of orbiting everything else in the galaxy like a big fluid blob

the spiral arms are actually waves in the blob

[zealous garden]

The fact that "now" doesn't exist really tears me up inside

[snow spear]

This is a nice video from a simulation, look at the latter part for after the galaxy has formed. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O674AZ_UKZk

[fading surge]

@frigid matrix hi

[fading surge]

hi, anybody wanna help me with my game design?

[zealous garden]

I'd rather get the discipline to work on my own

[fading surge]

hi @zealous garden

it is not that simple

it needs balancing, that only a mathematical mind can do

[zealous garden]

I don't know what that means

[fading surge]

hi @zealous garden, the game needs work that relies on mathematics

[static loom]

could be fun, you can dm me your elevator speech, I'll be making dinner soon so I won't read it right away

[fading surge]

hi, what happens if you have cards with a certain number of arrows in the 8 directions, how many permutations can you have?

I got an idea, the most massive Star of 27 Mass Points, has 8 Gravity Lines, the 14 Asteroids, have 3 Gravity Lines each, in unique configurations, the 2 Moons have 1 Gravity Line each, one facing orthogonally, the other facing diagonally
then for the two second largest Mass Points Star will be 7 Gravity Lines each
so we are left with 2, 4, 5, 6

[velvet gazelle]

Hello do you have good clips to understand ( Cos ) ( sin )

[fading surge]

hi @velvet gazelle

@frigid matrix

[velvet gazelle]

Hi

[fading surge]

can you help me with my game design?

[velvet gazelle]

I can't, I'm an engineering major

@fading surge Sorry

[fading surge]

it is ok

[velvet gazelle]

Good

[wild marsh]

anyone mind helping me in #help-12

[fading surge]

hi @frigid matrix, yo, I have progressed with the game with someone else

you want to see what we have?

[muted jewel]

Dawg why are you tagging random people?

[neat lintel]

do sentient things like humans unconsciously orbit something?

[amber flare]

i mean the sun

[proud olive]

you're mean to the sun?

[frigid matrix]

im kinda busy atm but when im less busy ill ask

[fading surge]

ok thanks @frigid matrix!

[neat lintel]

bro tips on wtf to do when ur chem teacher sucks but u gotta do well bc it’s ur final year in school 🧍‍♀️

[long matrix]

its how it works in uni too. learn to self study

[fair mural]

cry about it

[amber orbit]

study

[glad jackal]

hi

[neat lintel]

guys

guys

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/JW7lhhVyxRg

IS IT NOT 32?

[long matrix]

2^6 aint 32 no.

4.4.4 aint 8.4

[neat lintel]

oh fuck

I got confused

okay it's 64

sorry

but still aren't my steps logical?

[fair mural]

bruh moment

[snow spear]

No the ground stops them, but if the earth disappeared they would

[neat lintel]

what's wrong

i went full circle i know

[proud olive]

Ignore. Do not trust him. He has previously called bruh moment when there was no bruh moment taking place

[neat lintel]

im a doodoo brain i make these mistakes very regularly

[fair mural]

bruh moment

[charred wren]

hi, i want to ask some math questions

[bright hill]

You can read #❓how-to-get-help for guidelines :)

[charred wren]

it's much less a math question

it's a question about why a conversion formula is the same both ways

[bright hill]

You can still use the help channels prolly

[wild marsh]

Anyone mind helping me with a question in #help-41

[bright hill]

Please stop spamming this in multiple channels

[wild marsh]

I need help quickly but no one is, I tried yesterday and didn’t get help for an hour

And no one helped

[leaden crown]

Is anybody familiar with audio-based math? Engineering type stuff... I need some help with a little math that deals with stuff like volts, SPL, decibels, pascals, using logarithms to solve, etc.

[brittle socket]

Be patient. People are helping here out of their free will and compassion. If you don't get help then, well I don't think there's any other way to put it other than better luck next time. 1 hour is not a lot of waiting time anyways. I waited 5 days the last time i used a help channel

[leaden torrent]

also you just dropped an entire worksheet and asked people to do a question for you

thats not very conducive to receiving help

at least try and state what youre confused by, if you have been provided any formulas, etc

[mossy oriole]

What a beautiful function... It looks like noodles

[junior jolt]

you should see tan(x^2+y^2) = 1

[hollow pagoda]

that is just- 😍

[static loom]

https://tenor.com/view/kazoo-kid-wow-amazed-awkward-looking-gif-5484661

[neat lintel]

me when

[keen forge]

give me a question about Graphing Linear Function using TABLE OF VALUES

im gonna fail my math subject

[native quail]

im gay

[keen forge]

how to report messages ?

[stiff pecan]

No pain, no gain.

[proud olive]

Hi gay. I'm edwardborn

[small dust]

Try to make up your own question 🙂

[surreal sapphire]

report messages?

huh, they left

[neat lintel]

finaly umuted

[neat lintel]

How does everyone here revise for exams. Do you go over your notes and re-write them and refine them?

[solid snow]

You do problems and review concepts

[deep mango]

For proof-based classes at least, I go through all the theorems from class and try to prove them out loud to myself - same with all the past HW problems

talking things out helps me to really internalize the ideas

[neat frost]

Ryc also just really likes the sound of his voice

[flat harbor]

i used to be obsessed with having clean and well written notes

[neat lintel]

I am finding it hard to write my notes in a more logical order then first presented and taught. After learning more things at the end of the course that relates to the things at the beginning I feel like writing them in a more logical order would help me. Do you ever write your notes back out in a different order?

[flat harbor]

and it took actual effort to stop investing time into making them "flow in a good way" or whatever

[deep mango]

I bet you posted pics of them on instagram, all color coded with cute little artistic accents

[flat harbor]

uve seen my notes ryc

the text is neatly placed within the lines but thats their only merit

[flat harbor]

oh wait lmao yeah when i was obssessed with note taking

i was less of a "cutiepie" and more of a "gamer"

i was obsessed with cramming everything in One(1) sheet of paper

[deep mango]

oh my god this is so fucking cringe

[flat harbor]

to the point i used sticky notes layered on top of each other for extra space

[deep mango]

"the cornell method" actually fucking kill me

[flat harbor]

these people are real and i fear them

[deep mango]

i remember when my 10th grade literature teacher forced us to take notes in the "cornell method" and she'd have us fucking fold the paper over or whatever

so dumb

[flat harbor]

feels like these ppl wuld also write self help blogs

[neat lintel]

That's so fucked

[velvet dagger]

God

[deep mango]

the more that i think about the way that education works the more i see the value in sink or swim philosophies

[velvet dagger]

I remember my 9th grade history teacher graded our notes too

[neat lintel]

I just want notes that flow well to help me lol

[velvet dagger]

I don't remember how specific she was about the format

[flat harbor]

today i tried the "Themes Method" and started using Obsidian Tasks to organise my life on a kanban board 🥰

[velvet dagger]

But she definitely graded us and would be like hmmm yeah I wish you took a note on this too

Like you actual moron lol

And she had no idea how to control a class of 9th graders lol

[deep mango]

that's interesting, i haven't done that but what i do is leave a pretty large amount of space for me to go back and write notes or fill in ideas

[flat harbor]

i think notetaking culture here is a bit more

[neat lintel]

How many of you use iPad's to take your notes?

[deep mango]

obsidian is basically the same shit don't get me started

[flat harbor]

using highlighting for survival

[deep mango]

i use a samsung tablet with onenote

[velvet dagger]

My 10th grade history teacher did something a bit similar but was less ridiculous about it. More just like hmm you doing something serious okay cool

Rather than actual fuckin grading

[flat harbor]

ok MAYBE i did sidetrack myself into the notetaking management plugin addiction

[velvet dagger]

Even that I don't agree with but I'll give credit where it's due he was faaar from the infimum

[velvet dagger]

Ryc is coming around

[flat harbor]

and MAYBE i stopped studying for an entire week to get the system going

MAYBE it was overcomplicated quirky and maximized aesthetics

[velvet dagger]

Just MAYBE

[flat harbor]

and just maybe MAYBE i stopped using it after a week lmao

time ill never get back

[velvet dagger]

This is all hypothetical tho

Ofc

[flat harbor]

but i promise its bc im in the military and dont have my laptop w me as soon as i can "digitise my notes" ill be golden

[deep mango]

i forgot about this, yes it's true

[flat harbor]

lmao i cant say this with a straight face

[velvet dagger]

Wait are you in the military? Or is that the part you can't say with a straight face?

[flat harbor]

i am in the military ye

not for long 🙏

[velvet dagger]

Interesting you don't give military vibes lol

[flat harbor]

yea bc i was conscripted

🦢

[velvet dagger]

Ohhhhhhhhhhhh

[flat harbor]

if anything

living in the barracks and being unable to

[velvet dagger]

I just realized

The country and all

[flat harbor]

"express myself"

[velvet dagger]

I tend to think of American soldiers lol

[flat harbor]

has only made me more "hot girl habitat"

[deep mango]

Hot girl habitat

[flat harbor]

its the difference between the "soldier" and the "conscript"

[velvet dagger]

And in my head American soldiers are either like, either mad disciplined or a bit wild

No middle ground

[flat harbor]

from what ive seen

ure absolutely right lmfao

like the little baby soldiers? before they get promoted to sergeants and stuff

theyre just crazy but the same level as ud expect from frat kids

[neat lintel]

Do you think it is better than using paper? I am thinking of converting

[velvet dagger]

That is also a fair point I guess in America there's no conscription there's only predatory recruitment so I don't have much to contrast with

[flat harbor]

but once they get promoted they suddenly get Immersed into the Duty

[deep mango]

I like it a lot better

I don't know if it's worth the price of an ipad

but if you have one

I use a samsung galaxy tab s6 which was like 300 bucks

and came with a pen

[flat harbor]

most countries dont even have predatory conscription

the great nation of korea begs to differ

https://tenor.com/view/gosegu-고세구-gif-26075991

[iron osprey]

the lite is now $230

[deep mango]

Nice

[neat frost]

Blo is in the Slurp stan army

[fair mural]

you wish

[sleek pagoda]

could I have a few pointers for this

how would I prove

(a^b)^c=a^(bc)

I can do it for integers

but not for a number rational or irrational

[zealous garden]

Mfw I read ^ as wedge

[sleek pagoda]

?

[neat frost]

How is a^b defined?

[sleek pagoda]

a^b

a is a number

[neat frost]

Yes

[sleek pagoda]

b is a number

I want to show that

[static loom]

for instance, is 2^(1/2) positive or negative?

[neat frost]

But how do you prove (a^b)^c =a^(bc) if you havent defined what a^b means

[sleek pagoda]

how is a^b

normally defined

[neat frost]

Like what do you think pi^e is

[sleek pagoda]

?

pi^e

Actually i dont know

My guess would be

approxiamate pi and e

with rational numbers

and then use better aproximations

[neat frost]

Almost yeah, you just need to approximate e

[sleek pagoda]

to get a value

But like

if I have

[neat frost]

But then how do you define rational exponentiation?

like a^(n/m)?

[sleek pagoda]

IDK

If you define it as

(a^n)^(1/m)

is that how it's defined?

[neat frost]

Yeah that works

[sleek pagoda]

but the thing is its

using the property I want to prove

so do we take that property as a defenition?

[neat frost]

We take a^(n/m) = (a^n)^(1/m) as definition, the property you want to prove (for b,c rational) is a direct result of this definition

[sleek pagoda]

Ok

so how does this apply for

irrational numbers?

[neat frost]

You gotta play with limits

[sleek pagoda]

for example

(2^sqrt(2))^3

I can write

m1 as and integer

and n1 as an integer

and m1/n1

aproxiamates sqrt 2

[neat frost]

(ams) [ a^x = \lim_{\substack{n\to\infty\ \mathbb Q\ni p_n\varrightarrow x}} a^{p_n} ]

[sleek pagoda]

Ok

and because it

applies for each rational number

it applies to the irrational case?

[sleek pagoda]

how would you show that?

[neat frost]

By using the definition I just sent

[deep mango]

[sleek pagoda]

and if

the 2nd power

[deep mango]

define by a^x = e^(x log(a))

[sleek pagoda]

is also irrational you

[neat frost]

ffs ryc

[sleek pagoda]

do the same thing?

[deep mango]

and use power series

silly

[neat frost]

if a is irrational theres no issue

[sleek pagoda]

Ok

what I meant is

[neat frost]

youre a horrible person

[deep mango]

You could do the same thing but we know what nth roots of irrational numbers mean

[sleek pagoda]

I like this way

but

[deep mango]

and what nth powers of them mean too

my way is silly

[sleek pagoda]

to prove the power series

don't you use

this property

so it becomes circular reasoning

[deep mango]

(but my way is how you define exponentials of complex numbers, of matrices, of operators, etc)

[neat frost]

No

I dont think so

[sleek pagoda]

I know

[neat frost]

You need a proof for rational exponentation but not irrational

[sleek pagoda]

but for exaomple

(a^b)^c

b,c are irrational

I set a limit

where to rational numbers

aproch the irrational numbers

and because the property holds it will hold when

the the rational number is the irrational?

[neat frost]

Also you'd need to show that this is well-defined

[sleek pagoda]

but

how would you show

that

[neat frost]

Which is probably a pain if youre doing this from scratch

[sleek pagoda]

if holds

for the rational case

it holds for the limit?

[sleek pagoda]

Started with set theory lol I am trying to prove everything

[neat frost]

By trying hard

[deep mango]

tensor hom adjunction in the monoidal category of reals

[neat frost]

God fucking dammit ryc

[sleek pagoda]

100% understood

[neat frost]

horny much

[deep mango]

What?

[fair mural]

mmmm big words

[sleek pagoda]

Ok

so by trying hard I can show

that the property holds for the limit

[neat frost]

Probably

[sleek pagoda]

IDK how to put that in mathamatical lingo

but thanks for the help

[deep mango]

i'm actually dumb

[sleek pagoda]

DOnt worry

[deep mango]

i don't know how to make this work

[sleek pagoda]

I am even dumber

[fair mural]

true

[sleek pagoda]

me either

[neat frost]

taylor series or honry shit

[fair mural]

debatable

[bright hill]

Good morning slurp!

[sleek pagoda]

I am still confused why

[neat frost]

Good morning DarQ!

[bright hill]

No me

[fair mural]

hi dark

[sleek pagoda]

(a^(b/c)) is defined

as

(a^b)^(1/c)

[bright hill]

Sup quants...

[deep mango]

But basically, the tensor hom adjunction says that functions from A x B to C are the same as functions from A to (functions from B to C)

and when A, B, and C are finite sets

This says |C|^(|A||B|) = (|C|^|B|)^|A|

[neat frost]

This is trivial ryc

[sleek pagoda]

Basically

[neat frost]

No need for finite

[sleek pagoda]

the mathamatical lingo

[deep mango]

But idk how to get it for real numbers

I know

[neat frost]

can you?

[sleek pagoda]

No

[deep mango]

the point is that it generalizes to modules over rings

[neat frost]

bleh

who gives a fuck about algebra

[deep mango]

Which means I think you can get the statement for real numbers

purely categorically

but idk what the right thing to write down is

[sleek pagoda]

I confused about so many things

like apparantnly

[fair mural]

ew ryc is a category theorist now

[sleek pagoda]

when you multiply

the set or Whole numbers

with itself you get integers

and then integers

multiplied by itself

[neat frost]

I feel like this proof would be circular ryc. like idk shit about rings and modules and cat theory but it really feels to me like a definition type proof

[sleek pagoda]

Bottom line

we take it as an axiom

[deep mango]

Maybe your foundations are just incorrect

[sleek pagoda]

But how are exponents actually defined?

[neat frost]

This is literally the definition

I didnt just send it for the shits n gigs

[sleek pagoda]

Not for that

but for ratinal numbers

[neat frost]

We literally discussed this

[sleek pagoda]

I know

You said

[neat frost]

I mean sure you need to define a^1/m

And proving that a^1/m exists isnt necessarily trivial

[sleek pagoda]

would you do it but showing that

(a^1/m)^m is 1

as a defenition?

[deep mango]

first chapter of rudin moment

[neat frost]

yes

[sleek pagoda]

sorry

[neat frost]

but how do you know that there exists a number x such that x^m=a

[sleek pagoda]

not 1

I meant a

[neat frost]

never read rudin, it was in our calc 1 class

[sleek pagoda]

IDK

[deep mango]

the proof is horrible

[neat frost]

Exactly

[sleek pagoda]

you use some axiom

?

[neat frost]

Basically you show this for positive as first

And then for odd ms you just negative that whatever

(ams) Basically you show that
[ b = \sup\set{0\leq x\in\mathbb R}[x^m\leq a] ]
exists and satisfies the property that $b^m=a$

[deep mango]

Did you guys assume least upper bound property or something

[neat frost]

yeah

[deep mango]

Or did you define the reals

I see

[neat frost]

nah were not nerds

defining reals is dumb

[sleek pagoda]

My thoughts where

[deep mango]

Defining the reals is so stupid

[neat frost]

abstract it, define real axioms

[deep mango]

They're the only object that matters

Everything else should be defined from them

[sleek pagoda]

You could show an a^m and n^m

[neat frost]

proving that a set with those axioms exists is unnecessary

[sleek pagoda]

that has

b^m in between it

and then you can apply some function

on a and n

that keeps the bounds

but shrinks the how far apart

a^m and n^m

[neat frost]

How do you define integers from reals

[sleek pagoda]

and the limit of this process is b^m

[deep mango]

Subgroup generated by the unit

[sleek pagoda]

other way around

integers

[deep mango]

Reals come with a field structure

[sleek pagoda]

define ratinal

[neat frost]

using a limit proof would probably be circular

[sleek pagoda]

and ratinal defines

[sleek pagoda]

ok

[neat frost]

ah ofc

[sleek pagoda]

well I got to go

thanks for the help

[neat frost]

nah tbh rationals are cooler than reals

[deep mango]

Alternatively you can define Z as the pontryagin dual of the unit circle in C

[neat frost]

hmm no

reals are cooler

wait no

rationals are

[deep mango]

They're both dumb

The best set is hilbert space

[neat frost]

reals are basically rationals

you just complete it

[deep mango]

Completing something is a big deal

[neat frost]

does hilbert require completeness?

[deep mango]

Yeah

Hilbert space = vector space with an inner product and it's complete for the metric you get from the inner product

[neat frost]

yeah okay

[deep mango]

L^2 is a hilbert space

[neat frost]

are finite normed spaces complete

[deep mango]

And in some fucked up sense every hilbert space is an L^2

[neat frost]

nice

[deep mango]

Yes

Well

As long as the field is complete

[neat frost]

god finite spaces are too simple

[deep mango]

Finite dim normed spaces over Q aren't

[neat frost]

oh yeah ofc

[deep mango]

They still have interesting structure! The operators on a finite dimensional space have plenty of interesting properties

Matrix algebras

[neat frost]

like

whats interesting

what properties

[deep mango]

Lie algebras and lie groups of matrices, representation theory of finite groups (what wew does)

Uhhh

[neat frost]

whats a lie group

[deep mango]

Idk what else

A lie group is a group that is also a manifold

[neat frost]

i think i read the wik article a while back but didnt understand shit

and whats a manifold?

[deep mango]

So somehow it's smooth

A manifold is the n dimensional analogy of a curve or a surface

So at every point there is a neighborhood which is in continuous bijection with an open subset of R^n

Like a sphere, a torus, etc

[neat frost]

Hmm

[deep mango]

So it turns out that a lot of important sets of matrices are both groups and manifolds

[neat frost]

thats fucked

[deep mango]

For example, GL(n) is the set of all invertible nxn matrices

[bright hill]

That's awesome

[neat frost]

im still at the point of math where definitions seem logical

[deep mango]

Or SL(n) is the matrices with determinant 1

Or O(n) is the orthogonal matrices

[neat frost]

who tf would care about sets where neighborhoods of points are in continuous bijection with stupid fucking open sets

[bright hill]

We know what those are ryc...

So patronizing *sigh*

[neat frost]

O(n) is not orthogonal matrices ryc

[bright hill]

Dont

[deep mango]

Because if you look like R^n everywhere then we can move over ideas of differentiation and integration onto more complicated objects than subsets of R^n

[bright hill]

Don't you dare finish the joke

[neat frost]

I wasnt going to

I was going to write something else

[deep mango]

So that we can do stuff like, integrate a function over the surface of some object

[neat frost]

relating to my previous comment but it took too long to write

[alpine kindle]

you didn't name the field

MODS

[deep mango]

It's a much broader generalization of what you learn in multivariable calculus

[neat frost]

why not measure theory

[deep mango]

For measure theory, you need a measure

[bright hill]

Manifolds?

[deep mango]

It's true that you can do all this stuff measure theoretically too

[neat frost]

and for manifolds you need a manifold

and measure theory is logical

[deep mango]

But they work together. You define measures on these smooth spaces by using their manifold structure.

[neat frost]

like i wanna measure things

its a typical male urge anyway

[deep mango]

And more importantly, measure theory gives you no idea of differentiation

[bright hill]

Slurp measure theory arc

[deep mango]

It's true that there are notions of differentiation on metric spaces

[neat frost]

ive been doing "measure theory" for like a month

my arc is almost over

[bright hill]

Why is it in quotes? Lol

[neat frost]

soon i will give up on stupid measure theory

[deep mango]

And there are people who generalize the study of manifolds to so called "metric-measure spaces". But manifolds are a good place to start because they are nice and smooth

Metric measure spaces can be really nasty with fractal dimension and stuff.

[bright hill]

How much of the book have you done so far?

[deep mango]

This is what geometric measure theorists and geometric analysts need to study

[eager reef]

im trying to fight the intrusive thought of buying hartshorne

i know damn well i won't have time for it for a while

[alpine kindle]

the way i cope with hs geometry is by writing μ(ABC) for the area of a triangle ABC

[vivid halo]

Buy it

[eager reef]

it's not even that expensive right

[bright hill]

Just do it™

[eager reef]

50 euros or something

i shouldn't.

[surreal sapphire]

just steal it from the library?

wait, nvm wrong channel

[eager reef]

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

[whole leaf]

[fair mural]

cringe

[neat frost]

Like a third?

[neat lintel]

why?

[bright hill]

Nice work

[alpine kindle]

hs maths is kinda boring

[neat lintel]

have you tried complexifying the integral instead of using integration by parts?

[neat lintel]

btw this kid does things like analysis and stuff

[eager reef]

[neat frost]

Thanks

[sand ravine]

has anyone rad the book of "introduction to mathematical philosophy " by bretrand russel

??

[alpine kindle]

what?

[rocky shuttle]

Wait what? Even nonseparable ones?

[deep mango]

well they're "L^2" on huge non sigma finite measure spaces

like uncountable sets with counting metric

[rocky shuttle]

Ah, okay

[primal sonnet]

Why do help channels have lowercase names only?

[neat frost]

Channels in general can only have lower case names

[neat lintel]

The creators of Discord are the kind of people who only type in lowercase.

[primal sonnet]

No uppercase but can have special characters: 🤔

[neat lintel]

The help channels used to be indexed by Greek letters.

[primal sonnet]

So only 24 max?

[neat lintel]

I don't remember.

[zealous garden]

nah, then you just double up

[neat lintel]

They got changed to Arabic numerals at some point because the Greek letters seemed pretentious or something.

Then the current help system got put in.

[primal sonnet]

The numbers don't mean anything particular anyway

[storm sage]

Wait you want people to do the problems for you?

Oh

[zealous garden]

do you want this one eric?

[storm sage]

Nah I think I would only take it if it were at least 500 usd /s

[tall badge]

[storm sage]

ty rj <3

[primal sonnet]

Eric seems like a nice dude.. oh wait he has the stirner edgy pic

[iron osprey]

how dare you! ！！

[storm sage]

Lol

True, I'm actually the meanest edgiest dude you've ever met

RAWRRR THE STATE IS A GHOST

[zealous garden]

that's a racial slur eric

[storm sage]

wtf who is using that word as a racial slur

[zealous garden]

you've really never heard that?

bro

lmfao

[storm sage]

no I've only ever heard it as "you gave me a spook"

[zealous garden]

nah

[storm sage]

spook is the standard translation for this german word

😭

dammit lemme find another word

[zealous garden]

spook
noun

1. a ghost.

2. a spy

Example: "a CIA spook"

3. a black person.

[storm sage]

okay I changed it

[zealous garden]

do these messages have to be purged or does context make it okay

[storm sage]

is the term spooky offensive too

😭

[zealous garden]

no

spooky is fine and normal

[storm sage]

okay

[zealous garden]

so this is why they pay localization teams

[storm sage]

😢

I've only ever used spook to mean ghost, I thought that was its only meaning

Time to purge this word

[zealous garden]

I didn't know it could mean ghost

or SPY

lmfao

[storm sage]

yea I've never heard it to mean spy LOL

ty for letting me know wraith

[zealous garden]

[wooden flax]

does anyone know how to get math tutoring jobs

[little vine]

You could advertise at a university for yourself, else you can go on indeed

There's a lot on indeed

[wooden flax]

hmm

my issue is that im a good tutor but i have 0 qualifiations

for example my friends were struggling in calculus getting Cs/Bs on tests but when i taught them for like 2 hrs they were getting As on everything

i also have experience with neurodivergent ppl

[little vine]

That's great. You have to start somewhere

There's a franchise called mathnasium. They hire people without experience

[wooden flax]

yes but they pay scraps

i would earn more in fast food

[little vine]

True but the work is easy

You could go into business for yourself, or there are also services that match you with clients for a portion of your income

[honest dawn]

Easy? Yeah, but it's a challenge even so lol

[wooden flax]

simplify the squareroots

by factoring

[misty hinge]

I haven't studied a day in my life i cant focus on anything

I hate myself

[p k090ubytvrcer

[leaden crown]

Is anyone familiar with math pertaining to decibels, SPL, and pascals? I need some help.

[junior jolt]

@zealous garden whats ur cs background? do u also have math background

[zealous garden]

I have formal CS background from an (unfinished) degree in CS, AI & Robotics concentration

Gen eds really dragged me down

I only took up to Calc 2 and (some) LA in school

[junior jolt]

Gen eds are like random humanities shit that u need to take right

im so glad thats not a thing in the UK

[zealous garden]

Yes

[bronze wedge]

applied math>philosophy>pure math

[junior jolt]

.

[zealous garden]

For my CS degree I needed to take politics, psychology, sociology, urban planning, at least 2 liberal arts classes

And more that I forget / didn't get to

[junior jolt]

https://tenor.com/bThgN.gif

[zealous garden]

So while I was taking junior/senior level CS courses I was retaking freshman writing

[junior jolt]

so u had to drop out eventually?

[zealous garden]

Pretty much

[junior jolt]

Do u plan to finish

[zealous garden]

I got myself into a position where I couldn't afford to keep going and couldn't get any more aid

[junior jolt]

U seem smart enough to deserve a degree lmfao

[zealous garden]

I do plan on finishing a degree

But I have to take care of my missteps first

I'd prefer not to call them mistakes, they're only mistakes if I don't learn

[junior jolt]

gl my brudda

[zealous garden]

Thank you

[shell oar]

Why urban planning???

[jovial belfry]

Hello! I'm currently a college student who's gearing towards declaring my major soon. (Note: The use of "you" in my message is intended to be plural). I know this might be a biased community to ask the questions I have, but I would still like to hear your valuable insights. Do you think think as a STEM (science) and economics major (I'm in a coordinated dual degree program at my university), it would be valuable for me to develop very strong mathematical skills? One of the schools I attend is a well-known business school, it has over 26 concentrations in business and economics (all of which are strong), but it also offers a unique concentration in statistics. The second school I attend, there are a lot of science and art majors available. Originally, I planned on majoring in molecular and cellular biology, or computational biology. But I wonder if a more niche concentration like mathematical biology or biological mathematics would differentiate me in my science field, or more importantly, offer me a fresh way to look at science? I have articles on the potential math has in the sciences, especially recently, the life sciences, and I am awed!

Articles:
https://www.nature.com/collections/qghhqm
https://journals.plos.org/plosbiology/article?id=10.1371/journal.pbio.0020439
https://theconversation.com/the-next-breakthrough-tool-in-biology-its-maths-here-are-some-ways-mathematical-biology-is-helping-change-the-world-186209
https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-022-02176-y

However, what's stopping me might sound like a dumb reason...but math has always been one of my weakest subjects. I am interested in becoming better, but I just suck at it, and I get easily discouraged by small mistakes, and math tends to be more stringent and unforgivable than other fields for small mistakes. Although, this is a more tangential topic.

I'm open to sharing more details on each major (i.e. courses, topics covered, etc.) if that would be helpful!

Apologies if this is the wrong channel!

[leaden torrent]

this is hard to answer without knowing your goals

do you want to do research? if so, then mathematical biology is certainly a major and fast-growing field, though afaik of a more mathematical flavour than biological

in any case, i dont think "bolstering your resume" is particularly valuable if you feel like doing so would be particularly difficult or taxing

[jovial belfry]

So, my end goal is a little unpredictable. I want to be an entrepreneur. But entrepreneurship isn't a career where I can just snap my finger (like medicine or finance) and the path is laid out in front of me.

Without the desire for more freedom and higher income, I think I would be happy in academia! I would probably pursue a PhD in science, and just do scientific research. I think the next generation of biologists have to have strong programming and computational skills, because of the vast amount of data they need to crunch nowadays. And as a result, math is becoming desirable and valuable too. But...it'll definitely take me a lot of investment to learn math since I am worse at math than nearly all my other subjects (only could my music skills be worse 😂 ).

2/3rd the alumni contacts given to me by my school that majored in mathematical biology went into finance. They both worked in private equity, and ones at KKR currently. Yeah, I can definitely see how math is a translational skill I guess, it offers me a safety net to do the same thing if entrepreneurship fails? I can potentially still land on a 6 figure (maybe even 7 figure job) that academia cannot guarantee. My schools strongest networks are also in finance, and I have felt resistance from some of my peers who make back-handed compliments about me being courageous enough to pursue entrepreneurship. The undertones are always like I'm throwing away a potential great career for something extremely risky (my intended entrepreneurship sector would be biotechnology, which is even riskier than an average entrepreneurship sector).

[jovial belfry]

I wouldn't say I'm majoring in math to bolster my resume. If anything, finance is the concentration at my school that holds the most weight, along with analytics or a more traditional business concentration. I'm genuinely interested in statistics too, I see it as capable of offering novel techniques to comb through big data (which biology is facing and will be facing more).

I also think statistics and math are highly translational skills. Part of me is also interested in engineering...and math offers me the most flexibility? Maybe.

I guess partially...I'm answering my own questions. A bit of why I'm not committing is fear. Of course I'm worried about GPA too, and if math is my weakness, it would mean my GPA will not be soaring. Doing pure science or a business/economics concentration would mean a definitively higher GPA for me. How much higher? I'm not sure. My current math knowledge is single-variable calculus with very light exposure to linear algebra and multi-variable calculus.

But looking through the syllabus for some of the courses offered in my prospective major...I'm clueless.

...general topology, separation, compactness, product spaces, Tychonoff's Theorem. Special topics in analysis: Weierstrass Polynomial Approximation Theorem, Bernstein polynomials and simultaneous approxfunctions and derivatives, topics from divergent series, summation methods; r measure theory, the Lebesgue integral, Lp spaces, Holder, Minkowski, and and Cauchy-Schwarz inequalities; basics of Functional Analysis, normed spaces, Banach spaces and Hilbert space, with examples...

If I glance at the science majors and business/economics majors, I can vaguely understand what they would teach.

[river moon]

you can probably already grasp what cauchy-schwarz inequality is about, what's understood by separation and compactness and normed spaces

they're fairly simple concepts

you can just look it up and watch a lecture or two on youtube

[jovial belfry]

I used to watch 3Blue1Brown a lot. I don't really retain or understand what he teaches sometimes, but it is very beautiful 😄 .

[next blade]

Not that I know the field, but I feel like a lot of the entrepreneurs in the biotech sphere have a deep understanding of their field. Given the kind of things people do in the sector this is not surprising (as in, people can get hurt if its done wrong - more so than if Facebook recommends you to friend a person you don't like). Who would you model your career after, Bob Langer, Craig Venter, Elizabeth Holmes? Whoever it is, maybe look at what they did in school?

[jovial belfry]

I see. It might be because my interested in math is still relatively new. I used to despise math, naturally, because I did so poor at it. It was my only class which I didn't get an A in. But, my senior year calculus teacher in high school opened my eyes to math, and calculus was an entirely new feeling. Math made more sense? It felt more important for sure, and more applicable.

[jovial belfry]

Haha...not Elizabeth Holmes 😭

[jovial belfry]

There's an upperclassman at my school and I look up to him. He's also a lot closer to my age than Bob Langer, and understands the present-day ecosystem better (alumni like Jim Bankoff, although not in biotech, have come back to say that there are so much more resources to support entrepreneurship at my university nowadays than when they were students).

He's the ideal image of a person who bends both science and business fluidly into a successful startup. It was venture backed before he entered sophomore year and he won a entrepreneurial grand challenge that went against MBA students from leading business schools (bested Penn, Harvard, and MIT MBA students).

I used to think...yeah, I can be like him. But could I? Not really haha. We differ so much in talent. Also, although I admire his startup and his idea. The sector I want to go into in biotech has a larger time constant, for that, it takes longer to incubate my idea.

I guess a company I've been reading a lot about is Amgen.

Their second former CEO Gordon Binder wrote a book called Science Lessons: What the Business of Biotech Taught Me about Management. One of my friend in academia bought me the book as a book. To my initial surprise, my professors also knew it (I'm not surprised nowadays anymore...they're basins of knowledge), they suggested that I dive deeper into Amgen's earlier history.

Gordon Binder they said, is the public image CEO, the attractive Wharton/HBS graduate that attracts investor. But George Rathmann is the science CEO that built Amgen up, along with his team of like 57 scientists (Amgen only had ~60 employees).

[next blade]

So I guess my point including her was that she's the only high profile founder of a biotech company that I can think of with no knowledge of biotech. The others in my list have PhDs and a lot of experience, and now looking at Amgen, its founder had a PhD and a lot of prior experience in the field, too.

[jovial belfry]

But studying people like Rathmann, Roy Vagelos, or more modern success stories like Lee Schalop from Oncoceutics or Jeffrey D. Marrazzo from Spark Therapeutics, all of these individuals have had strong science and engineering backgrounds that made their companies.

The ones that don't fail or become Elizabeth Holmes.

[jovial belfry]

Yep! Biotech requires that.

It's not like a Facebook or soft tech where the investment is low to start. It takes so much money to start a biotech startup, and is actually the industry that requires the most initial investment in capital. People just burn cash here.

Ah, there was a MIT professor, I forgot his name, he tried to make biotech more attractive to invest in through securitization.

Oh, right, Andrew Lo.

[jovial belfry]

Thanks for the suggestion though! Thank you all for the advice!

I do try to read a lot of past success stories.

A bit of survivorship bias.

[zealous garden]

No idea

[neat lintel]

ur in the us?

[stiff pecan]

No pain, no gain.

[zealous garden]

Yes

[storm sage]

urban planning is so interesting though

[azure nymph]

Urban misplanning is more interesting

[zealous garden]

Lmfao

My favorite part of university was the "free" gym and therapy

[frigid matrix]

was it free?

tuition included gym?

[zealous garden]

It was somewhere in the fees

Gym, movie theater, therapy, bus, and train

All included somewhere non-negotiable on the bill

There's like tuition, and service fees

I think is how it listed it

[vale plover]

has anyone bought an international edition copy of dummit and foote? if so, how was your experience? was it missing any content compared to a U.S. edition? this can sometimes happen; see reviews of the intl. ed. of artin's Algebra. how's the printing and paper quality? passable or very bad?

[zealous garden]

The books have been delayed :animepfp_sad:

[azure nymph]

We can opt out of certain things like gym, health services, pretty much anything they can deny us access to

[zealous garden]

No opting out for me

I'm telling you that place was a scam

And then there's constant construction going on

For shit no one asked for

[azure nymph]

Ah I go to a public school so it's less scammy

[zealous garden]

Except the new parking deck because the expensive parking was always full

[azure nymph]

First years have to live on campus and have a meal plan though unless they live so close

[zealous garden]

Oh at mine first years had to live on campus no exceptions

Wait I think there was an exception for marriage

[azure nymph]

Yeah if you live with parents within 40 miles or something they let live off campus

Marriage and military too

[zealous garden]

Mine was public too though

[azure nymph]

Oh the real scams are the private schools

[azure nymph]

My friend went to one, 20k/year after his aid and scholarship and religious classes the don't count at any other school

Oh and curfew of course

[leaden crown]

Can somebody help me with math to do with sound engineering? I'm so lost...

[wooden flax]

The real question is why would you want Dummit Foote?

[vale plover]

to put on my shelf as a reference to peruse from time to time. i'm not going to use it as a main text.

[wooden flax]

even as a reference its not that great

[vale plover]

what would you suggest

[wooden flax]

Lang

[vale plover]

as far as i know D&F is the canonical undergraduate reference book. personally i prefer pinter and judson but they're not comprehensive. i thought you'd say lang.

[wooden flax]

great as both a reference and as something to learn from

just because something is used everywhere does not mean that it is good

could be out of instructional convenience, historical reasons, etc

[vale plover]

well i guess a hardcover of lang is cheaper than D&F, so i will look into it

[small dust]

i thot

everything written by lang was bad as both a reference and as something to learn from

[vale plover]

anything bourbaki is going to be polarizing

[storm sage]

D&F is great

I'm a big fan

lang is not great to learn from for a first pass through algebra

imo

[fair mural]

eric what is your name

[storm sage]

孙山

[fair mural]

[tall badge]

thats an understatement

[velvet dagger]

I only saw a bit of Lang and kinda liked it but by then I knew some stuff and again it was a small slice

[wooden flax]

which slice

[little vine]

I just got D and F and really like it

[wooden flax]

I've done Aluffi before Lang but I definitely think Lang could be a first book

[fervent pebble]

no

it could not

you have blinders

i saw it 💀

it most definitely could not

gods

reading it was like watching chalk dust fall to the ground after someone brutalized a chalkboard with their cat's nails

the most soul suckingly boring thing i've ever read

not even the fun soul sucking like reyna from val ong

maybe you could read it as a first book if you were some sort of masochist (except instead of pain you crave boredom)

or just a normal masochist tbh

i would rather watch plastic decay

[little vine]

Lang's algebra is super dry

His CA book is too

[neat lintel]

e

[open aspen]

i cant believe there are people who genuinely believe lang's algebra is a good first book in algebra

yall must be living in another plane of existence fr

[fervent pebble]

dryer than ben shapiro's wife ong

[iron osprey]

why do people just get on the internet and lie

[small dust]

what?

[mortal oyster]

Second time in here I see Lang being recommended as an intro to algebra. 😆

Maybe if you’re an undergrad Terence Tao, then you’ll like it.

[bright hill]

Small child mountain

[bright hill]

It's illegal to have an opinion around gristle

[small dust]

serge lang, book author 🙂

yep ^-^

[small dust]

loll

[stiff pecan]

No pain, no gain.

[iron osprey]

no rain, no drain

[storm sage]

No lol

[rocky shuttle]

It literally looks like it

[viral wren]

i flanked

atleast i got better grades than my father back in his day

[wanton shoal]

how tf is that flank

I’m happy if I get above a 65.

[proud olive]

Same

For hs courses that is

[bright hill]

Do you guys know any decent calender where you can schedule reminders?

Smth like Google calenders but it ACTUALLY pushes a notification

You know...

So that it ACTUALLY reminds you with the thing you want to be reminded with...

[sick kite]

With tasks on Google calendar it gives you a notification

I'm pretty sure

[bright hill]

Ok nvm

I had to dig a bit but apparently you won't get a notification if you dont set the time

And ig I wasn't doing that

[latent remnant]

I'm curious, for those of you here who pursued or are pursuing pure math in higher education, specifically fields of math with no practical use: why? Don't get me wrong, I find some of these fields fascinating, but what use is there in pursuing them?

[bronze pelican]

I like it

[static loom]

after embracing the meaninglessness of existence, why not pursue hedonistic desires to do pure math?

[fervent pebble]

why not?

i mean

it might be useful

and thats good enough for me

[alpine kindle]

some physicist in 200 years time might use a theorem inspired by a theorem that uses my work in one small step of the proof

[static loom]

a physicist reading pure math?

[bright hill]

hedonistic
Surely you mean masochistic

[steady portal]

delet this

[small dust]

no 💅

[steady portal]

[hybrid steppe]

math is fun tho
sometimes

[ember fog]

hey all, this is a sort of rant. I've been chipping away at my first uni math class and I think I am failing the exam this afternoon. No excuse really, I think it's due to a lack of practice. I was able to get online worksheets answered but struggled with the module my uni provided. I also have not properly practiced the other half of the coverage. Anyway, my sister has always led me to considering a different career path. She's saying I should think if I am at the level needed for this math class, perhaps then I should consider shifting to the social sciences. My relationship with math has not been straightforward, I'm still constantly trying to address my math anxiety. It just sucks that this is the type of "encouragement" I get. I told her what I learned, which is that math skills arent fixed. She said yeah but you have to be realistic. You can definitely take math again later in life but you wouldn't want to be stuck in uni for 6 years because of math. She said I should think if I actually can learn math within a specific time frame.

idk just feeling really down about this, I still want to give myself a fighting chance even if it means dropping the class. I don't want to give up and I actually have fun experiencing little aha moments when I finally understand how to solve a problem

I've always been insecure about not being good enough for what I want to do and what I enjoy and this experience really reinforces that

I still wish I was better adept at math, that it comes to me more easily, that I breeze through my math classes, especially the first ones

[frigid matrix]

what do you like

[frigid matrix]

this just comes from building confidence so to lose the insecurity you become more confident in your abilities

[frigid matrix]

communicate this to your professor

they might be able to change something

[ember fog]

I've already talked to my professor, I told him I really want to learn math. I also said the issues I am facing with the math class. He said he'd be able to better assess my situation after the exam

I'm trying to build the confidence, it's just hard when a person close to me is saying well i might not be good enough

[frigid matrix]

well this wont help you do well on the exam

what class is it for

[ember fog]

It's a calculus class

[flint thunder]

You said it's due to lack of practice. What kinds of questions are they asking? E.g. evaluate a particular limit or derivative?

[latent remnant]

all math is just calc n

algebra I is calc -4

arithmetic is just calc -6

any higher math is just calc n > 3

[fair mural]

[light needle]

yooo what are your guys opinion on spelling

Gelfand or Gel'fand

[devout nacelle]

I've never even seen the latter

[azure nymph]

It does

[neat lintel]

it does what grade are you in

bruh

use kahn academy then

[void tundra]

Hey does anyone know which brand of chalk produces the least chalk dust?

[split island]

A lot of people swear by Hagoromo

[void tundra]

I might have a chalkboard problem because I'm using hagoromo and it produces more dust than expected

[split island]

I haven’t tried too many other brands that are marketed as dustless so I’m not sure

[neat lintel]

nothing its just khan much better

[white sluice]

if the diagonal of a trapezoid are equal, the figure is an isosceles trapezoid proof

how can i prove it

i find the distance of both diagonals

then idk what to do next

[junior jolt]

@zealous garden yo

u know conways game of life is turing complete right

what if you wrote a compiler that takes python and converts it into conways game of life 😂

or whatever language

i cant tell if this is a dumb idea tbf

[leaden torrent]

it's possible to do

python is among the worst languages you could choose for this, though

[zealous garden]

Yeah that's feasible but a terrible idea

It'd be a great meme though

Even better, excel to Conway GOL compiler

[iron osprey]

latter

[rocky shuttle]

Xel'naga

[mortal walrus]

Huh?

I've heard the term Ael-Naga before.

[junior jolt]

why

[zealous garden]

Because python uses very high level constructs

The complexity you have to deal with, within CONGOL, nightmare fuel

[storm sage]

python is not compiled

[rocky shuttle]

I have never heard of Ael-Naga before

[storm sage]

if you choose a compiled language it'd prob be easier

[zealous garden]

Like to do python faithfully

[rocky shuttle]

But Xel'Naga is from StarCraft

[zealous garden]

You have to write a python VM in CONGOL

[storm sage]

because there's already a compiler designed to do the hard bits

[zealous garden]

I don't think you avoid this by transpiling either

[storm sage]

and then your compiler can take over from where the compiler left off

[zealous garden]

Is python ever compiled?

AFAIK the closest they do is packaging the interpreter with the program

And the C runtime they use in the libraries

[mortal walrus]

Some alien term I saw on a website once lol

[rocky shuttle]

Yeah, they're an alien race

[mortal walrus]

So I've heard as well. Life is strange

[junior jolt]

if i ever try this i'll use it as an excuse to learn c++

(top 10 reasons to learn c++)

also how would the compiler work, roughly speaking

idk enough cs to know this lol

i just realised it would be possible cuz ik what turing complete means

Like

would you need to build a CPU inside the game

and then just do whatever instructions u need with that CPU?

and also u'd need a section of the map to be used as a display ig

[storm sage]

turing completeness generally isn't concerned with questions of display

at the most basic level, you'd just need some way to receive input and some way to make output

[zealous garden]

I mean, once you build basic logic gates it's kinda the same in any medium

[teal lion]

i was thinking of writing a python compiler in haskell

but i don't think it's worth the time

[zealous garden]

Can you even compile Python

[deft jolt]

Hello people.

[storm sage]

nand intensifies

[prisma swallow]

There is a compiler that compiles python to c

[zealous garden]

That's a transpiler

Close enough ig

[junior jolt]

does that speed up the code lol

[hollow sundial]

@tiny forge BUY GOOG

[fading zealot]

How do y'all write your real number symbol (fancy R)?

[long matrix]

,,\bR

[deep mango]

Like this

But more connected up

The two left strokes and then the curvy one starting from the top

[long matrix]

stop copying me

[deep mango]

your R has too many double lines

[long matrix]

no i do that in writing

the latex was a latex joke

[deep mango]

Ha!

Stop copying me

I bet you don't do my 1-stroke mathbb Q

That's my masterwork

[long matrix]

this is how normal people do it...

[deep mango]

My lasting contribution to society

3 whole strokes

[long matrix]

,,\bQ

[brittle socket]

wtf that looks so cursed to me

[deep mango]

and some would say they didn't even make a Q

[brittle socket]

Hello ricey

[long matrix]

yh show it then ryc

[deep mango]

Hello grass

[static loom]

it's weird if you look at this, it's like the Q has a weiner that comes out the bottom

[long matrix]

haha that looks dumb

[long matrix]

@neat frost this looks dumb right

[deep mango]

i left some space where they should be touching

so that you can see the stroke

it's one of the best things ive ever brought into this world

i'm unironically very proud of this

[static loom]

I saw you post this before but this time I will try to remember and use it

[deep mango]

it takes a few times of writing it for it to feel right

but when it feels right it feels oh so right

[long matrix]

does this work for Q

[deep mango]

What

[static loom]

I feel like I'm making an 'h' version of @

[deep mango]

lmao

it's the opposite order

[long matrix]

texit ignoring me

[deep mango]

wouldn't the h version of @ be like:

[long matrix]

,, {0, 1}(\bZ)

[static loom]

I'm doing it wrong I guess

[static loom]

I'm trying to make room for the p

and it's h-ifying it

[static loom]

haha

[deep mango]

ah i see

[static loom]

I need to push the | part further left

[deep mango]

yeah

it looks nice though

full of character

[rocky shuttle]

now I see an h in my blackboard Q's too

[static loom]

doodlin

[rocky shuttle]

I love the zeta and xi

[crystal stream]

I still can't draw zeta and xi