#serious-discussion

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cosmic roost
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I would like to invite you to an equation solving game

brittle socket
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Sorry im not interested

neat lintel
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Lol

bright hill
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You tell us

deep mango
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Blo does one and not the other

flat harbor
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yea i dont fuck around im in the house and im in ur house

arctic grove
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electrolysis?

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i dont think thats right

little vine
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"Bumping" in chemistry is when your bubbles are too big and they threaten to spill your liquid

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Is that what you're thinking of?

steel sorrel
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All i hear are the voices in my head

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The echo chamber of a dark blue room, with nothing but the sweet, subtle vibrations of the bugs moving in the walls

flat harbor
steel sorrel
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Yass

flat harbor
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ill watch over u ā¤ļø

steel sorrel
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Yes please ā¤ļø

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I still sleep with a stuffie oh god its senior year and ive never felt better than having a stuffied animal in my arms at night

flat harbor
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im 22 and i fucking miss my cat plushie so much oh my god the humanity

steel sorrel
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C-cat plushie??

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I want one

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All i have is fox plush

flat harbor
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it duals as an arm pillow

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i had it since uhh lets see

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2017

steel sorrel
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Oh dang

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Wann see fox plush?

flat harbor
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hell yea... dm the fox plush

pearl moth
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cofox coplush

steel sorrel
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Fox plush

vale plover
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For those that have bought an international edition of Hoffman and Kunze, what was your experience with regard to printing quality and how well the book holds together?

potent cape
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oo this chat is more chill

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hol up its dead

neat lintel
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Hey! My teacher worked the solution in class. It turns out that the complex numbers could have simplified and we got the same answer as you @hollow topaz

long matrix
neat lintel
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No problem!

dim mirage
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1+2+3+4+5+6+7+8+9+10+... = -1/12

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🄓

mint canopy
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Wow I put that into a calculator

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and it said the answer is "make better jokes" that's crazy

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so advanced these days

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wowee

dim mirage
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9,9999999999999999.... = 10

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🄓

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āˆž-1 = āˆž

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|N|<|R| <=> āˆž < āˆž

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🄓 x 2

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anyone can explain that?

misty ore
mint canopy
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Don't advertise here.

inland raft
vapid thorn
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10x = 99.999........

proud olive
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Mhm

vapid thorn
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10x - x = (99.999... - 9.999...)

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9x = 90

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x = 10

proud olive
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Damn

vapid thorn
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so 9.999.... = 10

dim mirage
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nice

quick estuary
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what rational and irrational numbers?

neat lintel
quick estuary
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i already got the answers but i dont like googles examples

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they confuse me

stark knot
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Anyone know of a sticky note type app that has latex support?

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Would be nice to have sticky notes to save formulas / short latex snippets etc

daring mason
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can one use coterminal angles to put the domain of arccos within [0, pi]? or will that not work

fading tusk
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what is a sticky note type app?

stark knot
mint canopy
fading tusk
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like for example 1/0 ?

mint canopy
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Har har, so helpful

fading tusk
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I'm trying to follow the line of reasoning over here

bright hill
quick estuary
short current
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.OOPPPP

neat lintel
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Hello

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How can I message in the Advanced Mathematics section?

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nvrm I'm blind

light needle
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can everyone go ahead and like this?

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tyvm

velvet dagger
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@light needle uh

light needle
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huh wierd

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it appears for me

pearl moth
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ouch

light needle
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mhm

iron osprey
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thanks for your gift to the community

velvet dagger
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@light needle works now, like the same file I didn't even redownload it

compact tartan
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cue the missing "fi" ligature

neat lintel
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Any calculus PDF ??

west thistle
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My calculus course is a scam

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Who needs a 10 pages double sided formula sheet

tight comet
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write the efe on it

frigid lark
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šŸ˜‚Our prof in techincal cs told us you can bring the entire script. Won't be helpful if you didn't understand the content.

west thistle
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I can write the entire calculus 1 course on it

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But yeah you are right

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you have to understand the concepts

compact tartan
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I've had open book exams

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the exams are designed so that if you don't study, no book will help you

neat lintel
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I'm having a hard time with Calculus proofs

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Are they essential to learn really?

little vine
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What are you trying to do?

neat lintel
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I was asked by my HS teacher to learn this proof

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but is it really important to prove this property of limits?

little vine
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It can give you a deeper insight into how math works. But I'm surprised you're proving that in hs

little vine
neat lintel
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I know already the epsilon-delta definition, but I'm still not getting many steps of that

little vine
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It's awkward at first

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But once you do a epsilon delta proof a thousand times it gets better

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Is there a step you need explained?

neat lintel
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I'm not understanding why in the first step he puts it as minor than epsilon/2

river moon
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you could use regular epsilon

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since epsilon is arbitrary you can define a new epsilon $\epsilon = \frac{\varepsilon}{2}$

fathom swallowBOT
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Transparent_Elemental

river moon
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and that'll still work

neat lintel
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lmao epsilon is cursed

round plaza
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The point is that epsilon/2 + epsilon /2 = epsilon, which is more elegant than bounding it by 2 epsilon.

little vine
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You could technically bound it by 2 epsilon

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But I guess that's considered sloppy

river moon
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yeah, if you bound it by 2 epsilon you can define new epsilon to account for that multiplier

neat lintel
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Ok then I understand some better now

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Although those formal definition and proofs exercises are so boring

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Is this stuff used later on? Or it's just formal exercises to define the limit, then I can forget about them

little vine
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It depends what you go on to do

river moon
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it's used in a whole lot of proofs of important theorems

neat lintel
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Next year I join Engineering University probably.

little vine
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You can take math for granted as an engineer most of the time I think

leaden torrent
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multiple choice definition memorization seems like the worst way to "learn" "proofs"

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wtf

neat lintel
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well it helped me memorize it. I do remember it now.

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there's also the exercises where it asks to verify a limit using the def.

round plaza
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I personally probably use techniques from epsilon delta proofs more for my work than most other topics in mathematics

tall minnow
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Once you get a good mental picture (like 1 year into analysis), you can start to skip these boring routines. Indeed higher math books leave exercises to the readers so that they can save space and focus on just key points.
But as my advisor says, someone may call or ask you to explain the boring routines, and you better be able to explain them.

grim vessel
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That moment when you are forced to learn math in french as an English speaker

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L quebec moment

cursive meteor
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<@&268886789983436800> Not sure where to ask this. Didn't see anything in #rules or #info :
Why are some help channels hidden?

leaden torrent
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to avoid cluttering the available sections

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otherwise the available section would be a list of 50 unused help channels and bloat the server

cursive meteor
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Ah, okay. I thought I had done something wrong and gotten locked out of those channels lol

leaden torrent
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nope, intentional that youre not able to type there

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use an available channel instead

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we could just delete the channels, but some people like to go back and search/reread past help

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so we prefer to keep them up

cursive meteor
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Makes sense. Thanks for the info.

leaden torrent
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(also in the future, you can DM modmail for server-related questions)

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(it's fine here too, though)

cursive meteor
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Ah, good to know.

neat lintel
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Ok I understood it finally

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it took me hour

neat lintel
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Can I ask some information about limits?

bleak sail
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Yes

neat lintel
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My book does this thing

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In which occasions it's necessary to specify if the result of a limit is l+ or l-

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For example

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the lim of x->+inf of 1/x² should be 0+

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Although there's some odd cases where it's neither of the two, but the limit still exists

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like this. It's neither 0+ or 0- , it's just 0

frigid matrix
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So if a function is approaching a limit but decreasing or increasing?

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Atleast intuitively thats how it seems

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But this isn’t necessarily true so nevermind

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f(x) being in that range means that it can only approach from the top half

cold edge
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does anyone use mathematica regularly? thinking of buying a student desktop license to do all the chunky integrals i cant figure out and need for other things

leaden torrent
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i guarantee you it is not worth the cost

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your school might offer it for free, though.

proven hornet
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Mathematica is pretty handy if you get it free

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Try logging in with your school credentials maybe your school purchases licenses

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That's how I got it

leaden torrent
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or check your school's software portal, if one exists

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honestly worth checking that anyway

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often comes with cool goodies that last after your education is up

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like my school offered a free upgrade from windows 10 home to education edition

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which is the same thing but with a few more features (most notably hyper-v)

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no reason not to get it

dry leaf
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do oyu guys think i have potential?

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i was a bad student average but im taking prep chemistry

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and im actually enjoying but its hard but i def enjoy it

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i have the urge to go to chem class

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what is happening to me i thought i hated school?

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anyone explain whos smart?

steel sorrel
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Dude sounds like you just like the subject

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Not smart personally but i had similar thoughts with chem

dry leaf
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God i wanna

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master chemistry

fervent pebble
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i believe in you!

little vine
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chemistry is fun i just have too much else to learn

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Barry Gibbs

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jk that's the beegees

zealous garden
solid snow
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Now I’ve seen it all

zealous garden
chilly hull
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whats the point of multiple choice epsilon delta

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theres no point in showing epsilon delta if you're not taught how to write the proof

bronze wedge
chilly hull
pearl moth
proven hornet
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multiple choice is for humanities kekw

bronze wedge
proven hornet
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Yeah actually I was having a lot more fun when I took humanities classes

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Now I am suffering through a boring pdes class Smilers

meager sonnet
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maths philo moment

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idk what would you say your stance on maths philo is to begin with

rose galleon
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Personally, mine is an abstract take, that it is about the overall structure of the study vs any particular application of it.

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For anyone curious, this is a continuation of a discussion happening in the Physics discord server, where I asked:

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I'm curious what you all think about calling mathematics "patronology," from the Greek word for pattern, "Ļ€Ī±Ļ„ĻĻŒĪ½." It is essentially "the study of patterns," as a rough/direct translation.
I feel like a lot of students in mathematics don't understand the "big picture" of what mathematics is about, since the name itself doesn't carry much meaning to someone studying the subject. Patronology carries a bit more information and etymology of what is actually being pursued: understanding of the patterns governing a topic/study.

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We have had a very healthy conversation there, and I'm curious what viewpoints the good people of this server might offer. I asked a very broad question, and so naturally I expect a very broad set of viewpoints and perspectives.

vast cipher
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changing the name of something doesnt change what it is

rose galleon
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Correct, it's more of a clarification as to what is being studied and pursued.

vast cipher
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well ppl in chill are lazy

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idk if you will get a lot of good responses here

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id also gamble you will get less imaginative or thoughtful responses from math people in general

rose galleon
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Then I will wait for some good feedback (:

flat harbor
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i think this falls into an analogous situation with "what should we call the philippines"

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it doesnt represent anything abt what the philippines are but ppl stuck with it bc its what everyone uses

eager reef
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I disagree with calling mathematics the study of patterns

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For that to be true you’d have to stretch the meaning of pattern to a point where it barely carries information

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Sure patterns have their place but I wouldn’t call all of mathematics the study of them

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Plus I don’t think changing the name would achieve what you’re saying anyway

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Im also wondering why do you think a lot of students don’t understand the ā€žbig pictureā€œ of mathematics and how you would describe said picture

meager sonnet
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calculations

neat lintel
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meager sonnet
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I've had people basically just think that it's like adding together larger and larger numbers

flat harbor
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what happened to all the large cardinal fans in chat

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nostalgic rn..

eager reef
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Which is what Aedra said

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Students outside of mathematics do have no idea what maths is about I agree

meager sonnet
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i mean even like early maths majors sometimes do

neat lintel
eager reef
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But it should take like

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2 weeks for them to realize it isn’t like that

meager sonnet
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you get into proofs stuff in real analysis or abstract algebra first in many schools

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that's pretty far into it

rose galleon
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But at the heart of all of it, do we not study patterns? I cannot think of any example where some pattern isn't being studied and expanded upon.

eager reef
meager sonnet
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i mean

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if you start at calc 1

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i think it can be

eager reef
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I thought calc 1 was high school

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(Im not very familiar with the American system)

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Real analysis 1, Lin alg and introductory proofs are the first courses you take here

eager reef
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I think eventually we’d run into the issue i described

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Mathematics is too broad of a subject to be described like that in my opinion

meager sonnet
open aspen
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it is in some schools

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very big country

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but regardless yeah analysis is pretty late in UG usually

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certainly after 2nd semester for most students

eager reef
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But even if you start with calc 1

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You’ll probably notice that maths isn’t adding big numbers

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I suppose?

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But calc does give a wrong idea of what maths is lol

open aspen
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well idk if most people both go to college and take calc 1

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but i also get this impression

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'oh youre a math grad student? what is 1354*9841'

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as if i could answer that. I said -1 mod 3 was 1 in a test last year

rose galleon
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And those parameters may/may not be operations

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Or operators*

eager reef
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I’ll answer in a bit Aedra, in a lecture rn

bright hill
open aspen
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?

bright hill
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Like, why?

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I thought most people too AP calc or w/e

open aspen
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Most people? Lol

bright hill
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Isn't that enough to get into anal?

open aspen
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Usually no

bright hill
open aspen
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First two semesters will typically be finishing up the calc track and doing linear algebra

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I also had discrete and an intro to proofs course before analysis

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Not that I took analysis in my third year, since I didn't have a third year, but it seems reasonable

leaden torrent
leaden torrent
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presumably thats the point, its meant to communicate how trig ratios work.

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i'd wager this is meant to be done without a calculator?

pearl moth
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lol

leaden torrent
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then you missed the point

light needle
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can you guys do me a favor? need some SEO
google "characteristic classes texromancers" and click on the book
ty

bright hill
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Sure lmao

neat frost
light needle
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oh yeah it is a bit sus, maybe i should find a solution to that lol

neat frost
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Also another small thing, on page 318 (the last page, this is why I noticed it lol) the f(z,v) overlaps with the picture a bit.
Also on that same page the footer doesn’t have a rule above it (which is a tiny issue, it’s just a little different than the style of the rest of the book)

iron osprey
bright hill
fair mural
neat frost
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For once I agree with quantum

bright hill
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Who woulda known anal could've been interested the wrong way

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God

neat frost
bright hill
open aspen
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Lmfao slurp, so bold

deep mango
neat frost
deep mango
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Hello

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I need to decide what to eat for lunch

neat frost
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Ryc I fucking hate L^p spaces

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Also when would they be ā€œusefulā€ other than when studying L^p spaces?

neat frost
deep mango
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Ew, for lunch? Don't make me laugh

neat frost
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Okay how about pizza?

deep mango
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I had pizza yesterday

neat frost
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Hmm

deep mango
neat frost
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Pasta?

deep mango
neat frost
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LASAGNA

deep mango
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The others come up less often but they still come up

deep mango
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For example, when you're studying nonlinear PDEs, you run into many situations where your PDE either represents the process of minimizing the L^p norm of a function satisfying some constraints (for a particular p) or where your PDE conserves some L^p norm as time moves

deep mango
neat frost
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Ohhh yeah

deep mango
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Keep in mind that the L^2 norm is just the integral form of the pythagorean theorem in R^n

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(the euclidean distance formula)

neat frost
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Right right

neat frost
deep mango
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L^2 is the space where you can study "angles" between functions, and more accurately, projections of one function onto others

neat frost
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Mmm right this be throwing me back to LA

deep mango
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And hence it's the space where you can do stuff like fourier analysis, regression, and a lot of other stuff

deep mango
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Oh guess what

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I had a fully vegan egg sandwich this morning

neat frost
neat frost
deep mango
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It was vegan cheese, impossible meat, and just egg

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JUST egg

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On a brioche bun

neat frost
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Ooooo

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Fuck that sounds good

deep mango
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It was only 2.50 which is so cheap for an egg sandwich here

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And it was indistinguishable from a normal egg sandwich

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I'll go back there a lot

neat frost
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Mine was some fake egg with lettuce and tomato on some regular bun

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Send me one

deep mango
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Ew

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Lettuce

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Wtf

neat frost
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Lol

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Yeah lettuce isn’t great I agree

deep mango
neat frost
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No

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Lasagna is fucking amazing

deep mango
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Lettuce is fine but on an egg sandwich?

neat frost
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Baked ziti

deep mango
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Anyway idk what to get for lunch

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Baked ziti is good

neat frost
deep mango
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Oh

neat frost
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Not really at all

deep mango
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Baby spinach i get, arugula i get

neat frost
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But whatever

deep mango
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But lettuce lettuce?

neat frost
deep mango
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Texture matters, lasagna is a bunch of flat layers

neat frost
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Omelet sandwiches are really fucking popular here

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And they’re all the same

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So lettuce, tomato, cucumber, omelet, and sometimes cream cheese

neat frost
deep mango
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I don't like the layers

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They shear

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It's so messy and unstable

neat frost
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Okay so baked ziti?

deep mango
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Have you ever seen why they build buildings out of triangles instead of squares

neat frost
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Because it’s stronger?

deep mango
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Because squares FALL OVER

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Triangles are structurally stable

neat frost
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Hmm

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And neither lasagna nor baked ziti is triangle

deep mango
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Lasagna is a meal integrity nightmare

neat frost
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Baked ziti is less stable tho

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It literally falls apart

deep mango
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But it's

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Supposed to

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It's a bunch of pieces

neat frost
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So is lasagna!!!

deep mango
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Lasagna is a structure

neat frost
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Like it’s meant to be fluid in the sense that solids are supposed to be

deep mango
neat frost
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Yknow

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So you’re getting baked ziti?

deep mango
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No

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Fuck baked ziti

neat frost
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What

deep mango
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It's fine at best

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At least recommend I get bolognese with tagliatelle

neat frost
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Hmmm

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Tf

deep mango
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At least recommend I get squash ravioli

neat frost
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No

deep mango
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At least recommend I get pesto gnocchi

neat frost
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Cheese ravioli or sweet potato

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FUCK GNOCCHI

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I hate gnocchi

deep mango
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Sweet potato and squash ravioli are so similar

zealous garden
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yes the layers of the lasagna shear because we don't adhere them together

neat frost
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Sure

deep mango
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Its butternut squash

zealous garden
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you eat the pasta

neat frost
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Lasagna is meant to do what it does!!!!

zealous garden
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stop complaining about structure

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it's pasta

neat frost
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Yeah for fucks sake ryc you big pussy

deep mango
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Why would I make my life more inconvenient with big ass squares and meat sauce and ricotta getting everywhere, making the plate look like a 5 year old smashed his face into it

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If I wanted to just eat pasta

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No

zealous garden
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but if I'm in an Italian mood it's Chicken Parmigiana

mint canopy
deep mango
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I will eat lasagna and I like lasagna

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But let's be honest

neat frost
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Lasagna is fucking amazing

deep mango
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It's the inferior and highly overrated form of pasta consumption

neat frost
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NO

mint canopy
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It is overrated but it's not like it's bad

zealous garden
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Nah

neat frost
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It’s literally at the top of the hierarchy

mint canopy
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It's p good

deep mango
neat frost
deep mango
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That's my stance boytjie

zealous garden
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Lasagna is very pleasant

deep mango
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That is my exact stance

neat frost
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Ryc my respect for you just dropped so much

deep mango
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The lasagna itself is pleasant but the thought that I could have made a better pasta choice always lurks in my mind

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I don't try to micromanage your respect for me anymore

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It's too volatile

zealous garden
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what pasta would you prefer

deep mango
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Tagliatelle

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Or gnocchi

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Or even fettuccine!

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Or rotelle

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There are many worse pastas than lasagna to be clear

zealous garden
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like what

neat frost
neat frost
zealous garden
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lasagna feels like a meal

deep mango
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Literal dogshit

neat frost
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Felafel?

deep mango
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Farfalle = bowties

zealous garden
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farfalle are D tier at best

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NO

neat frost
zealous garden
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farfalle = butterflies

neat frost
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Stuffed shells

deep mango
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Shells suck too

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Worse lasagna

neat frost
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God

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You fucking 7 year old

deep mango
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The fuck is your ISSUE with gnocchi?

neat frost
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Oh

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I have a reason

deep mango
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No 7 year old knows what tagliatelle is

neat frost
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So gnocchi looks like maggots

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Which grosses me out

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And the sauce my mother makes is good, but paired with the gnocchi somehow makes the maggot thoughts worse, so I just hate it now

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Also the gnocchi we get isn’t high quality

deep mango
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Oh

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Thats kinda gross

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I never buy it I just get it at restaurants

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I didnt think of the maggots thing

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This is now the second food you have cursed me to think about maggots every time i eat

neat frost
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I just have an issue with maggots/slimy bugs

neat frost
deep mango
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Gnocchi!

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Oh

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Yeah

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Peanut butter cups is the other

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So much food in nyc and I don't want any of it

neat frost
neat frost
deep mango
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Uhhh

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Not particularly

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I dont need to have a story to have an issue with maggots

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They're just gross

neat frost
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No that’s not the issue

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It’s not a gross story

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Well like

deep mango
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It is a gross story because it involves maggots

neat frost
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Basically I was cleaning up in the dark (at camp), I picked up a sock and it was slimy, and I got a glimpse of something white so I threw it away and was too disgusted to keep cleaning. At the time I assumed they were maggots but I’m not so sure anymore

deep mango
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Oh

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Maybe it was just your slimy fingers

neat frost
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Dude

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Anyway I also have a pretty weak stomach

zealous garden
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white and slimy on a sock

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and you think maggots?

deep mango
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Hahahahaha

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Ewwww

neat frost
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I get nauseous really easily, thinking about nausea makes me nauseous

neat frost
neat frost
deep mango
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I mean it's gross no matter what

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Slimy stuff is horrible

zealous garden
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how old were you

neat frost
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Yeah true

zealous garden
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I mean yeah that's a memorable gross out moment regardless

neat frost
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Hmm like 12-13?

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So not quite 6 years

zealous garden
#

oof

neat frost
#

More like 4-5

zealous garden
#

my condolences

neat frost
#

😭

deep mango
#

What if i just go to popeyes

neat frost
#

Ew

zealous garden
deep mango
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It's good

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But overpriced without a coupon

zealous garden
#

good to know

viral hollow
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ello :D

steel sorrel
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Good'ay mate

neat lintel
fair mural
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not my favorite but it’s good

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raising canes is probably my favorite chicken place that i’ve gone to though

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but that 30 piece chicken nugget meal at chick fil a…

steel sorrel
#

Canes...

deep mango
#

Well

neat frost
#

I fucking hate TeX

deep mango
#

At popeyes instead of giving me the thing I wanted they gave me no sides and too much chicken

neat frost
#

Dude weren’t you talking about food hours ago

deep mango
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And it was good but now my tummy hurts

neat frost
#

Did you just get food?

deep mango
#

This was hours ago!

neat frost
#

Oh

deep mango
#

But my tummy hurts now

neat frost
#

Nice

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Haha weak

deep mango
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It was too much chicken

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It was slightly more than half of a chicken

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šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«

neat frost
#

It turns out in certain situations if you do \let\X… you can make \X a space character

deep mango
#

That is so silly

neat frost
#

Not sure why

deep mango
#

Why would you do that

neat frost
#

And it’s pissing me off

neat frost
#

And it’s pissing me off

neat frost
deep mango
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But just dont do it

neat frost
#

I need to tho

deep mango
neat frost
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It’s so you can do \X + \Y for example

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Instead of \X +\Y

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But when I do, it detects that fucking space between the + and \Y

deep mango
#

Thonk

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Thats so dumb

neat frost
#

,tex \def\X#1{\futurelet\A\Y}
\def\Y{\meaning\A}

\X + h

fathom swallowBOT
neat frost
#

Look at this shit

deep mango
#

Wow

neat frost
#

Now I need to go cry to plante but he’s asleep 😭

deep mango
#

Knuth is a hack

neat frost
#

Wow ryc

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Oh it just turns out that \futurelet doesn’t ignore spaces

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Fuck

deep mango
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Hahaha

neat frost
#

FUCK

deep mango
#

HACK

neat frost
#

I hate this

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And my fix isn’t working

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It’s all failing rycie

deep mango
#

This is how it all comes crashing down

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Ohhhh hahaha

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I have been waiting for this moment

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And now I am going to savor it

neat frost
#

Ahhhhh

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I’m gonna MAKE this work

deep mango
#

I believe in you!!!

neat frost
#

Bullshit

deep mango
neat frost
#

Huh

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Hmmm

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What the actual fuck

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Okay so hear me out

deep mango
#

šŸ‘‚

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In faxt

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🦻

neat frost
# neat frost ,tex \def\X#1{\futurelet\A\Y} \def\Y{\meaning\A} \X + h

Say you want to iterate over the tokens after \X, you use \futurelet and get the blank space. Now you need to get rid of it, how do you do that? You can use \gobble (\def\gobble#1{}), but here’s the issue: it’s a FUCKING SPACE. The \gobble will gobble the fucking h, not the space (since tokenization for macros ignores spaces)! And futureletting again gets the fucking space again

deep mango
#

Mhm

neat frost
#

So how the fuck do you do it?

deep mango
#

Theres no space gobbler?

neat frost
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No because usually you wouldn’t have this issue

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I mean like

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No simple one probably

deep mango
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Can you make a space gobbler

neat frost
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Because this is probably not a common issue

neat frost
#

Now I could just reengineer my code

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And not rely on futurelet

deep mango
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Maybe you could use futurelets somehow, since you know they can find spaces

neat frost
#

They detect them, but they don’t gobble them

deep mango
#

Yes but can you like

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Hmm

neat frost
#

Oh I have an idea

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Hell yeah

#

So instead of gobbling after the space, use an identity macro (\def\identity#1{#1}) since it’ll ignore the space

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This is my issue with TeX, I think something will take half an hour tops and it ends up taking 2 hours

#

Oh heya Walter how goes

dapper badge
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Hi slurp

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It's been a while

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It goes, but sometimes the going gets rough

deep mango
#

Nice work

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I knew you could do it

neat frost
neat frost
deep mango
#

Yss

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I was

neat frost
dapper badge
#

but how have you been holding up

neat frost
#

I’m fine, my semester hasn’t started yet tho, it starts on the 23rd

deep mango
#

Hahaha

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10 days left

neat frost
#

Mmm

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😭

deep mango
#

Hahaha

neat frost
#

Oh ryc I added functors

deep mango
#

Wtf

neat frost
#

Like the c++ type ones

fair mural
#

ew slurp is a category theorist

neat frost
#

Idk shit about cat theory

#

Nono

#

As in like

deep mango
#

What is a c++ functor

neat frost
#

Yeah a c++ functor so basically

#

It overrides the () operator

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So if you have an object obj of class Obj which overrides () you can do obj(…)

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And this is called a functor

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It’s like overriding []

deep mango
#

Whats ()

neat frost
#

But better because you can let it have multiple inputs

neat frost
#

So like if the class Obj overrides the parentheses operator, so if obj is an instance of Obj, you can do something like obj(…)

fair mural
deep mango
#

Thats why i was happy about it

neat frost
#

For example

class Obj {
public:
    void operator()(int x) { std::cout << x << std::endl; }
};

Obj obj;

obj(10);     // prints 10
deep mango
#

Until about an hour after i ate all the chicken

neat frost
#

Anyway now TeX++ has the ability to do this

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So now I can make all methods functors whichll help me do some stuff that I’m blanking on now

#

Oh yeah like better expansion

flat harbor
#

i came here as a refugee

#

@neat frost pls come back

compact tartan
#

"functors"

wooden flax
#

today was my birthday!

#

guess what i got for a gift šŸ˜

flat harbor
#

happy birthday

wooden flax
#

ty

deep mango
#

Happy birthday invictus

dapper badge
#

Happy birthday

deep mango
wooden flax
#

too expensive šŸ™

#

got lang

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and fulton harris

wooden flax
#

!

wooden flax
open aspen
#

Happy bday invictus

#

Is this a meme or is it actually your bday

wooden flax
#

it actually is

little vine
#

HB homie

wooden flax
#

ty

steel sorrel
wooden flax
#

ty

neat frost
bright hill
neat frost
bright hill
bright hill
neat frost
#

Hmm

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Shuri I think

bright hill
#

Would you like my D for that L?

#

(I don't like how that sounds)

neat frost
#

Sure

neat frost
bright hill
neat frost
#

Hey DarQ

#

,tex \def\cantor#1#2#3{%
\ifnum #1 > 0 %
\afterfi \vbox{\hbox{\vrule width #2 height #3}%
\hbox{\expanded{\unexpanded{\cantor}{\the\numexpr #1-1\relax}{\the\dimexpr #2 / 3\relax}{#3}}\kern\dimexpr #2 / 3\relax\expanded{\unexpanded{\cantor}{\the\numexpr #1-1\relax}{\the\dimexpr #2 / 3\relax}{#3}}}}%
\fi%
}

\cantor{5}{30pt}{3pt}

fathom swallowBOT
neat frost
#

Have I told you my analogy about the cantor set?

bright hill
#

You did lel

neat frost
#

Yeah catGiggle

bright hill
#

Now you just need to replace that p with a b

neat frost
#

hmmCat who has a b in their name

bright hill
#

@flat harbor

neat frost
#

Ah yes

flat harbor
#

hi

bright hill
#

You know what to do, blo

flat harbor
#

no

neat frost
#

Oneesan may I please have your b?

flat harbor
#

each and every letter of mine is sacred

neat frost
#

In return for my p

flat harbor
#

im not a dirty capitalist

neat frost
neat frost
#

Just don’t think about it too hard

flat harbor
#

the word "hard" throws me into an unending spiral of thought

neat frost
#

Hmm

flat harbor
#

slurb.. b

neat frost
#

Yeah okay I don’t want your b

#

You probably drool on it a ton

flat harbor
#

i had to work hard to earn my Ć«

#

and u kids these days think u can just

#

shanghai each others letters

#

once again i am not surprised at the revelation that ran yakumo is the one responsible for spreading these deplorable acts

neat frost
#

Indeed

flat harbor
#

a username is who u are.... where u stand... its ur brand name and gives me a reason to dm u

#

or perhaps a reason for me to not dm u

neat frost
#

Oh yeah for sure don’t dm me

flat harbor
#

why shuld i listen to someobe who doesnt recognise the sacred value behind each letter...

#

slurp. m. it used to be such a fabulous name

#

and now look at it, defiled, unpure

#

exchanged like coins in a purse

#

i bet the s shuri received is in some egirls hands now

#

is that what u want....

flat harbor
#

stay out of this larq

#

dump needs to be confronted

bright hill
#

I literally summoned you here

flat harbor
#

chastised

bright hill
#

You don't get to keep me out of this

flat harbor
#

u wuld if u had the balls

neat frost
#

Blo you’re a weirdo

flat harbor
#

thanks ā¤ļø

#

its kind words like these that keep me going

bright hill
flat harbor
#

all bark but no bite

bright hill
#

Well...

#

Obviously

#

They're not dogs

#

Uh

flat harbor
#

i wont blame u for not having them ukno

#

u can trust blo

bright hill
#

I HAVE BALLS

flat harbor
#

ok ok sweaty whatever u say

#

u dont have to make a mess goodness me

bright hill
deep mango
neat frost
#

Good morning

deep mango
#

Good morning Dump

neat frost
#

I might stream soon would you be interested in watching?

#

Don’t feel obligated to ofc, I’m gonna force DarQ to watch anyway

deep mango
#

Sure

#

How soon

#

I need to watch last nights survivor episode at some point

neat frost
#

Hmm say like ~30 min? Does that work for you as well @bright hill?

deep mango
#

Blugh two competition episode

#

Sure

bright hill
#

Can you make it an hour from now?

neat frost
#

Anything for you my poppet

bright hill
#

(Meanwhile ryc can watch survivor I suppose)

neat frost
#

Ye

arctic grove
#

is someone going to stream

neat frost
deep mango
#

Im partway through the episode

#

Cody is so iconic

#

I fucking love him

long matrix
#

@neat frost

#

Replace your D with a small h

neat frost
flat harbor
#

grr

#

take that back

#

now

neat frost
flat harbor
#

dont do this to me...... i might cry

neat frost
flat harbor
#

hfn... g... ..

#

h.. h. hh

#

ugh emotionally manipulating ppl isnt working anymore i need to up my antics

neat frost
#

You’re a vile person

#

Like physically vile

#

Slimy gross crusty

flat harbor
#

BUMBERPHILE???

#

i am quite the maverick yes

neat frost
#

You smell

flat harbor
#

blosmell

deep mango
#

Survivor episode done

flat harbor
#

time for bloƫ

deep mango
#

It was very good

#

Next episode looks crazy

#

One of the tribes is named Baka

#

They're so unhinged its great

neat frost
#

Discords being a bitch

#

I wanted to create a temp account for the stream but it’s not letting me sully

flat harbor
#

did u just call me a bitch

neat frost
#

You’re a bitch yes

flat harbor
#

thanku

neat frost
#

Wewcome

flat harbor
#

wholesome affirmation moments

bright hill
deep mango
#

This is why @small wave exists

neat frost
deep mango
#

Who else was interpreting it that way darq

flat harbor
#

me

deep mango
#

Besides blo

neat frost
#

And now discord isn’t letting me use the emails from those temp email sites

flat harbor
#

mememe

neat frost
#

Smh

flat harbor
#

dlurp

#

just stream in my dmsi

deep mango
#

Why do you need a temp email

flat harbor
#

i have the streamer role

deep mango
#

I have like 7 emails

neat frost
#

I need to create another account

flat harbor
#

ill stream to the serve

deep mango
#

Don't you have multiple emails

neat frost
#

But I don’t wanna create another gmail

neat frost
flat harbor
#

gmail is literally the easiest one to forge

deep mango
#

Why do you need a second account to stream

neat frost
#

And one is my actual email

flat harbor
#

dumass

neat frost
deep mango
#

Ah

flat harbor
#

omg vc with slurp?

neat frost
#

Fuck it I’ll just gmail

bright hill
neat frost
#

When they sent this

flat harbor
#

slurp doesnt understand consent

#

oh im sorry i deadnamed u

#

hump

neat frost
#

Okay now I gotta wait 10 min

#

We got dis

#

@still nimbus hello poppet

flat harbor
#

u need to give slurpstream the streamer thing

neat frost
#

Oh yeah

#

@deep mango could you give @still nimbus the streamer role please?

deep mango
#

Done

bright hill
#

Why a stream alt?

neat frost
#

Thanks rycie

deep mango
#

Please follow the server rules while streaming

neat frost
neat frost
still nimbus
#

Hello cuties

deep mango
#

Its just what we say to people in modmail

still nimbus
#

Mmm

#

Which vc should I use?

bright hill
deep mango
neat frost
#

Idk who that is

deep mango
#

Probably advanced math so that we dont get bothered by people

#

Like

#

By weirdos

bright hill
#

Yeah, while we're at it

flat harbor
#

delicious slurpstream

bright hill
#

Can we please have another advanced vc that's not math specific?

neat frost
#

Your mom

#

Anyway whenever you guys are ready

deep mango
#

Ill be there in a min

brittle socket
shrewd ocean
#

can anyone tell me briefly on the steps you follow while studying mathematics? just what are your techniques? there are many guides on the internet but I simply want to hear one from an average student

leaden torrent
#
  1. read book/attend lecture
  2. do practice problems
  3. do practice problems
  4. do practice problems
shrewd ocean
#

that's pretty simple, i'm definitely overthinking it, one more then before i'm assured, do you use spaced repetition for practice problems? that sounds stupid but trust me answering will help a lot

outer eagle
fair mural
real tundra
#

do you guys think math tutors are useful?

leaden torrent
#

do you use spaced repetition for practice problems?

#

no

#

maybe it helps but i think those pedagogy/study motivation/whatever things are all dumb (and lowkey ableist but thats besides the point)

#

people spend too much time worrying about how they study rather than just opening a book and working

#

and you do need to work, to be clear

#

passive reading is not learning

#

if you get caught up somewhere, go to office hours

mint canopy
#

Spaced repetition would be useful if you wanted to memorise the answers. However typically we want to learn how to make answers, not regurgitate ones from years ago.

mint canopy
zealous garden
#

I think it's interesting how ryc's name goes through so many changes, but I can always immediately tell that it's Ryc

fair mural
#

because he never changes his pfp

#

@deep mango you would be based if you changed it back to your old bird pfp

deep mango
#

The old pfp was so commercial

#

I underwent a rebranding and self-actualized

#

(stole from Deep)

zealous garden
#

I have to click on your name to see your pfp

fair mural
zealous garden
#

I still miss skype, leave me alone

neat lintel
#

any engineer here I have 3 questions to ask for my homework

mint canopy
bright hill
#

Wait

#

How old are you?

storm sage
#

?

zealous garden
#

I'm 23

storm sage
#

wtf how do you miss skype

#

I am glad skype is dead personally

zealous garden
#

I think it's the memories and the time it had in my life

storm sage
#

ahh

zealous garden
#

because I have used the software since then

#

it's attrocious

storm sage
#

I was gonna say, why tf would you have nostalgia to that

#

I get IRC but not skype

zealous garden
#

but I owe a lot of great memories to skype

storm sage
#

that's nice :)

bright hill
#

No offence

zealous garden
#

what gave you that impression

bright hill
#

I dunno

#

Ig you were relatable?

#

But then you said you missed Skype monkey

#

Lol

zealous garden
#

lmfao

zealous garden
neat frost
#

I hate Skype

stone ferry
#

I used skype for a messaging app for a couple years before I moved to discord

#

I don't really miss it

#

Wish I could get into that account though

dreamy coral
#

ICQ is still the best messaging program.

meager sonnet
deep mango
#

@neat frost what was the doggie park like

#

Were there dogs there today?

neat frost
deep mango
#

I just walked my dog

neat frost
#

There were a bunch of bigger dogs just playing around

deep mango
#

I see

neat frost
#

They were very cute

deep mango
#

Sounds sort of dumb

neat frost
#

I forget, what kind of dog is yours?

#

What

#

Why

deep mango
#

Chocolate labrador

#

Idk I just hate fun and good things

neat frost
#

Oh you’re in ā€œI’m a grinchā€ mood

#

Grouchy boy

#

Ryc do you have any good books on electricity+magnetism but more mathy and less physicsy?

deep mango
#

Ive heard good things about griffiths

#

But idk about mathiness

neat frost
deep mango
#

I don't know physics is dumb

neat frost
#

;-;

#

Probably better than my hs electricity book

#

Oh do you perhaps have one on optics as well?

deep mango
#

I do not

#

I'm not a physician

bright hill
#

Why on earth are you studying optics?

neat frost
#

It’s in our syllabus this year

#

I wouldn’t if I didn’t have to

#

Also it’s like bullshit optics

bright hill
wooden flax
#

@neat frost landau lifshitz

deep mango
#

landau lifschitz
mathematically rigorous

delicate kernel
#

Guessing you meant physicist

deep mango
#

You're right, good catch

snow reef
bright hill
#

Fuck I wish I caught that

#

I coulda flamed ryc so hard for being bad at English sotrue

fervent pebble
#

why's everyone ragging on ryc here?

#

's not like he's wrong

#

he's not a physician

neat frost
#

Not a doctor

deep mango
#

The person it was an inside joke with is departed devastation

bright hill
#

Suuuure

#

Rycie boy

#

I totally believe you

deep mango
neat lintel
#

does anyone know how probability works

mint canopy
#

"Probability is the most important concept in modern science, especially as nobody has the slightest notion what it means." —Bertrand Russell, 1929 Lecture

neat lintel
#

so how would u do this :/

mint canopy
neat lintel
#

is there a name for lazyness syndrome.

gray kiln
#

can someone nhelp me with algebraic proofs

bleak wigeon
#

but actually maybe something like classical field theory I've heard is aight