serious-discussion

[gleaming grail]

ok i missed the discussion

[neat lintel]

bijective set is a set that is a map which is bijective

as i said some non formal? stuff

[tepid stag]

hi

hello!

can i plz plz ask sum math advice

hereree

[elfin oracle]

sure

what advice do u want

[tepid stag]

i m looking at mit ocw for which problems i should do

in algebraic topology

but i see that each pset is only 4 problems

that seems way less

is it normal??

[elfin oracle]

slowwwwww down there a second

what is your math level

no offense

[tepid stag]

waht

adv ug

[elfin oracle]

what level of college do you have

[tepid stag]

i am ug

taken real analysis/grad algebra/differetnai ltopology

and lot more

[elfin oracle]

ok so you want algebraic topology

[tepid stag]

yah

[elfin oracle]

u sure about the differential topology and grad algebra?

[tepid stag]

?? why asre you not belieivng me

[elfin oracle]

ok ok just making sure

[velvet dagger]

Hello1 to actually answer you

Depends on how much it does and how many psets

[leaden torrent]

4 problems seems a bit below average for a pset but not singificantly

most of mine were 5-6

if its a weekly pset then 4 problems makes sense

[velvet dagger]

If it's 15 psets x 4 problems/pset, and it's a class on homology and cohomology (π_1/covering is assumed background)

Then that's not bad

[leaden torrent]

hell id consider that a lot even

[velvet dagger]

Also depends on which problems they're giving

[leaden torrent]

not from the student's pov

but from the grader's

i would not be able to get my department to approve me grading 60 homology/cohomology problems a student

since they need to pay me for that

[velvet dagger]

Ah in my undergrad they paid graders per student a fixed rate from the beginning

[leaden torrent]

well to be more precise

[velvet dagger]

And I guess if you felt the amount you were being told to grade was unreasonable

[tepid stag]

38 lecture, 6 psets, 5 problems per pset

[leaden torrent]

we get a fixed rate but we have a certain amount of hours each week

and if we go over that legally we have to count it as overtime

and they never give overtime

sooo

[velvet dagger]

Then... I mean depends I guess on you play it

[leaden torrent]

and the department was actually strict about making sure people dont take unpaid overtime since they got bopped in the past for it

got fined for it even

so yeah, i only had a limited amount of hours a week to spend on grading

[velvet dagger]

One of my friends from an analysis class we took together is now grading that analysis class

[leaden torrent]

and they would not approve 60 problems per student per semester except in really small classes

or in classes like calc/lin alg/diff eqs where checking the solutions takes 10 seconds

[velvet dagger]

He got an email from the professor being like yo ask the department for a second grader

And originally he's thinking well I wanna grade it myself

This is gonna make him change his mind lmfao

[leaden torrent]

holy shit lmfoa

yeah

i would not want to grade that shit

jesus fuck

[tepid stag]

this is #1 of pSET https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/18-906-algebraic-topology-ii-spring-2020/resources/mit18_906s20_pset1/

[velvet dagger]

37 students right now

And this is a 1 week pset

[leaden torrent]

oh that pset seems reasonably lengthed if its meant to be about 1/6th of the course

the questions are substantial enough

if anything theyre probably a bit harder than i'd expect

[tepid stag]

okok

[leaden torrent]

but this is MIT

[tepid stag]

how do notes look? good? bad? https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/18-905-algebraic-topology-i-fall-2016/resources/mit18_905f16_lec1/

[velvet dagger]

I'd say fine

Though mismatched

You sent a pset from 906

The lecture from 905

[leaden torrent]

yeah i was confused lmao

[velvet dagger]

(I figured because the pset problems had nothing to do with the lecture lol)

[leaden torrent]

i noticed that too and was like "wtf"

[velvet dagger]

Anyway MIT is probably fine on general principle

Maybe depending on your personal preferences you can check who's teaching the class and see if you get an idea of that person's reputation

Maybe you want the perspective of a geometric group theorist or an algebraic topologist or etc etc on the material

[coral mason]

how do i get better at actively doing math? i feel that with the way my schedule has been set up I've been doing a lot of reading textbooks or watching some other form of medium and not actually solving problems

[elfin oracle]

looks like we have a winner

[coral mason]

what do you mean?

[elfin oracle]

you need to be more specific about the measurments

[coral mason]

i notice that when i have long periods of free time like over an hour i'm more likely to actually do problems, but recently i don't have that too often and i've been noticing this behavior

[wicked ore]

http://www-evasion.imag.fr/Membres/Fabrice.Neyret/demos/DesmosGraph/indexImages.html

this is insane

[dusty wagon]

yeah for me to actually get started on problems seriously I need at least 3 hours of nothing else to do

Otherwise the other stuff is always in my thoughts and I can’t focus

[lavish kayak]

Idk you gotta practice at breaking that barrier of "I don't wanna"

You know that not solving things mean you don't actually understand the material, so itch that scratch

[dusty wagon]

Anyone else feeling kinda ‚anxious‘ or unwell when being alone in a new city pretty far from home? I don’t necessarily feel bad it’s just more of a feeling in the gut what if something bad happens or whatever

Like suffocate on my food or something and nobody is here lol

[tender tulip]

this finally challenges me to make that perspective renderer in desmos

[neat lintel]

@dusty wagon I had the same suffocate on food thought when I moved out lol

Im still alive if that is any comfort

[zealous garden]

I've seen my housemate just pop up in the middle of the night gasping for air for no apparent reason

I think it's like Sleep Apnea or something

my primary concern with living alone is bills

[errant arrow]

can someone explain this?

[zealous garden]

so f is a function of t, and f evaluated at t is 3e^(-t) - e^(-2t)

[errant arrow]

the way i understood it was based on this

[zealous garden]

#❓how-to-get-help

[errant arrow]

oh i should go to help?

my bad then

thought i could discuss it here haha

[zealous garden]

I also have no idea what you're asking

[errant arrow]

sorry didnt elaborate well enough

[meager prairie]

Is any one here?

Help

[surreal sapphire]

see #❓how-to-get-help

[neat frost]

Laplace transformation

[errant arrow]

yes

[errant arrow]

ty for the help, got it!!

[lofty aspen]

hm

[neat frost]

[errant arrow]

i was using the wrong property

[brave wraith]

Anyone here has a good pickup line?

Definitely not for a girl that I'm interested in.

[hollow topaz]

@reef carbon, I wanted to ask how do you remember all the maths stuff in such depth. I studied each one of my maths chapters(Calculus,PnC,Sequences,Matrices, Parabola, etc.) in detail in school, but I can't seem to recall much of anything without looking it up. I am in college now, but am not pursuing a maths degree so that doesn't help

I am surprised at the speed that I forgot things, sicne it was only a few years ago that I studied them

[reef carbon]

well it does help that i have a degree in math...

[wicked ore]

She also helps people a lot, which will naturally keep you on top of such topics

It’s not really a memory thing so much as how often you use it

[compact tartan]

use it or lose it. You remember stuff if you keep using it in your further studies

[hollow topaz]

I think that's probably why I forgot so much. I rarely use high school maths nowadays

I hate that tho, so I will try to revise and help around the server. That's the best way to keep using it imo

[oak oxide]

Do you know how to type math symbol using a Mac?

[dusty wagon]

No sorry

[neat lintel]

Hold alt

[neat lintel]

Calculus and Sequences are developed in analysis if you study it.
Matrices are in algebra if you study it.
Idk about conic sections

[oak oxide]

??

[neat lintel]

Hold down alt and then press keys on they keyboard for math symbols on a mac

[oak oxide]

But how do you do εⅭ∑μη∇Λ then?

[neat lintel]

Idk

[ripe wasp]

option

hold down option

then type

tho it might be hard bc the letters aren’t there, might have to look up the green keyboard for that

[surreal badger]

I have a few days until I do a contest and I've been having some problems. I don't know what I should look for to practice tho.

I want to practice solving problems similar to this

Find how many natural solutions that satisfy constraints x, y, z given by equations and inequalities

Like

Find all the combinations of numbers from 0 to 2000 that are even, have sums = c, and are = or < f(x,y,z)

I don't have much time so I can't really dive into it too much. Is there a name for these types of problems or a method so that I can more reliably solve them?

[dry leaf]

would u be proud to show ur parents these grades?

or are they too low (average student here)

[south kelp]

too low get them 10/10s

[dry leaf]

o ic..

[distant goblet]

my parents don't care about my grades

and I try not to care either

trying to do the bare minimum in my analysis classes

[high charm]

my grades are 6-7 out of 10

because the mathematics i learn are....

hard

such as:
9768 : 10
9886 * 100

3490000 : 1000

44*(665+1227)/2

[fervent pebble]

unfortunate :/

do not fret, my dear mathematician

persevere and achieve greatness

[leaden torrent]

how old are you?

[high charm]

13

[leaden torrent]

then with all due respect, the fault isnt the difficulty of the material.

[neat lintel]

Nah, math is hard

[neat lintel]

School sucks

[light needle]

can someone find me a link or smth to this reference:

Rohlin, V. A., A three-dimensional manifold is the boundary of a fourdimensional one, Dokl. Akad. Nauk SSSR 81 (1951), 355-357.

[sharp meadow]

"trivial" lol

[dusty wagon]

Did you scihub it already

[light needle]

i mean i literally cannot find even a paywalled website for it lol

but i got it in a collection of works by rokhlin

its in russian but oh well

[neat lintel]

Nah, math is impossible

[neat lintel]

Pp

[lost sky]

maths is hard

[gilded axle]

Do you guys think that in courses like real analysis, things get easier once you got through the beginning of the course? Like once you got the hang of proofs and stuffs?

Or is it just downhill from here

[fast ivy]

Well, you definitely can get better at real analysis after spending some time with it, doing more provlems, rereading proofs and getting a better intuition of the definitions and results.

The thing is that the time you have to spend in order to get better acquainted with this subject (or with any other for that matter) varies a lot from person to person. For instance, this means that you may not get totally comfortable with the material being covered in a real analysis course during the period you are spending taking a course on it at your university. But maybe, a few months or even years later after you have taken the class you may stumble upon some concept covered in that class and finally feel like you have a better intuition for it.

[river moon]

yes because initially you're being told how you can take such simple things as numbers and sets and make them infinitely more complicated than it would be necessary for the rest of the course

[fast ivy]

I don't know if most intro to real analysis courses focus a lot of time on the construction of the real numbers, the peano axioms, elementary set theory and such.

Maybe in the first 1 or 2 weeks of the course.

[little vine]

It gets easier

[neat lintel]

No. Math is impossible. It never gets better or easier

[little vine]

I mean

[neat lintel]

No

[little vine]

It never gets easy but you kinda get the flavor of what makes an analysis proof

[neat lintel]

Until they start using algebra and then you have to learn algebra for forever

[fast ivy]

There's barely any algebra in intro real analysis

[little vine]

Algebra is my favorite

[neat lintel]

Ok well after intro real analysis

[neat lintel]

I hate algebra. I hate analysis. I hate math. I hate my life.

[little vine]

Settle down papa roach

[neat lintel]

Cut my life into pieces

[gilded axle]

Years?......................

I’m not going to be too optimistic then

Thank you for all your answers

[barren lantern]

There are polynomials like -5x > -11/3; x < 15/11, since you're dividing a number by a negative one, the direction of the arrow changes, but my question is, do the numbers on both sides have to be negative? Sorry for using sloppy terms, math term translations in my native language aren't well documented at all

[copper sandal]

can i post multiple questions in one chat?

or do i post a question, get help with it, then select a new chat and post another question

[surreal sapphire]

probably better to pick a new channel for a new question

[copper sandal]

https://tenor.com/view/tumbleweed-desert-road-dry-hot-gif-21341693

[fair mural]

this is not the most unfunny meme i have ever seen

i’ll say that

[proud olive]

10/10 meme

Keep it up

[meager vault]

I see I have found my maximum and minimum points of my humour.

[cloud shadow]

Right

[vivid halo]

Please do not spam multiple channels

[gaunt latch]

What was that?

[celest palm]

hello

its soooooooooo urly in the mornig

what r everyone doing

at 5:25 am

[rancid meadow]

Living in a normal time zone where it's 8:06pm

🙂

[brittle socket]

Lol it was 8:06 am for me when you posted that

[gaunt latch]

peacefully 2:40 AM

[fast ivy]

I mean, it's not like you can't learn the material necessary in order to pass your class exams or whatever.

What I meant is that often you will only be able to fully understand something after a few years of experience.

[wooden flax]

If you're not in eastern time get a life 😄

[celest palm]

wtf

a]that

means

well thats fantastic

[wraith atlas]

oops

[velvet dagger]

CST is the way to be

Literally stands for "Correct Standard Time"

EST = estimated standard time. It's an estimate but it's off by an hour

[wooden flax]

No lmao

CST = "Cheap Shitty Time"

EST = "Excellent Standard Time"

[chilly coral]

Why don't they just move it up/down an hour lol

[peak tide]

what does that make PST, "phantom silly time"? 😆

[long epoch]

just use gmt

[long epoch]

computer science tripos 🤔

[peak tide]

UTC

[chilly coral]

Why don't we just measure time collectively in units of "seconds since the big bang"

[long epoch]

because ur goofy ahh dk that

[peak tide]

that would require more bits than a double precision floating point number provides

or if you use an integer, you wouldn't get enough precision to represent nanoseconds and such

[chilly coral]

Then use something that holds more bits smh

[peak tide]

seconds since some other arbitrary but more recent event also solves the problem

and avoids the problem of "was this a uniform time scale since the big bang"

[chilly coral]

Avoiding problems is my specialty

[peak tide]

even UTC requires occasional leap seconds to keep it synchronized with the rotation of the earth relative to the sun

[gaunt latch]

EvEn UTC ReQuIrEs OcCaSiOnAl LeAp SeCoNdS To KeEp It SyNcHrOnIzEd WiTh ThE RoTaTiOn Of ThE eArTh ReLaTiVe To ThE SuN

[ancient flame]

EvEn UTC ReQuIrEs OcCaSiOnAl LeAp SeCoNdS To KeEp It SyNcHrOnIzEd WiTh ThE RoTaTiOn Of ThE eArTh ReLaTiVe To ThE SuN

[wild lantern]

EvEn UTC ReQuIrEs OcCaSiOnAl LeAp SeCoNdS To KeEp It SyNcHrOnIzEd WiTh ThE RoTaTiOn Of ThE eArTh ReLaTiVe To ThE SuN

[open aspen]

[iron copper]

TAI exists

[neat lintel]

1, 2, 3, 4, 5, Numberblocks! 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, Numberblocks!
1, And Another 1 is 2. And Another One is "ME!" That's 3!

5, 4, 3, 2, 1. Time for Some Number Fun! You Can Count On Us, We're The Numberblocks!

[iron osprey]

what

@neat lintel strange dragon

[mint totem]

Hey all, I have a question. I'm currently taking multivariable calculus, and the professor, who I'm decent friends with, has recommended that I take Real Analysis next. Is this a good idea, or will I be in way over my head? And what would I need to do to prepare for that? Thanks in advance.

[little vine]

Have you ever proved a theorem

@mint totem

[mint totem]

Yes, I have. I'm currently working through the first chapter of an Elementary Analysis book and proving the practice theorems by induction.

I don't have much exposure though. I'm a junior in high school.

[little vine]

Is it understanding analysis by Abbott?

[mint totem]

I'm sorry?

I don't understand your question.

[little vine]

By*

I'm just curious the book

[little vine]

This book is a very good first pass

At higher math

[mint totem]

It's called Elementary Analysis: The Theory of Calculus by Kenneth A. Ross

But yes, I have proved a theorem

[unborn jewel]

DOES ANYONE HAVE CHEGG

[surreal sapphire]

this isnt the place

[fervent pebble]

uhhh how far are you into your book

and what would you say your rate of progress is

honestly nmw i would recommend checking out Book of Proof by Hammack

the pdf is legally free online

it could be a fractal, maybe? i've seen circle fractals like that

idk abt the designs and such

[manic ginkgo]

Yeah reminded me of the Menger sponge: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Menger_sponge but not quite the same pattern

Cool, thanks. Still a discord noob after all this time

Hmmm looks like each of the faces have a different pattern so don’t think it’s any particular fractal structure because of the lack of symmetry

Nope sorry, might have some luck checking with people who studied topology or any geometers in general maybe

Yeah sorry I’m not that familiar with everyone in the server. The guys I know of were mainly interested in number theory and logic

Yeah, might have some luck there

[dry leaf]

where can i get help

for my math

[woven whale]

#❓how-to-get-help

[dry leaf]

i dont wanna open a ticket i feel like most people can help me with it

cus ive been waiting so long already

i just dont understand what theyre asking and people answer my question really over complicated

[woven whale]

well that's how the cookie crumbles

no one is getting paid to help you

you're not entitled to help

[fervent pebble]

rule number 37 of life: you are not originally entitled to anything

[fading tusk]

what why not

[fervent pebble]

why would you be?

[fading tusk]

because it is my birthright

[fervent pebble]

lol

[deep mango]

I'm entitled to everything

Especially love

[mint canopy]

Oh and who provides it?

[deep mango]

Trying to figure that part out

[mint canopy]

🫂

[deep mango]

[fervent pebble]

how do u have hair like that and get no play??

r ppl in nyc blind or sum shit be fr

[deep mango]

Valley

Its not a people problem

Plenty of people like me

It's a me problem

I am working Hard on it though.

[neat frost]

Mr grouchy

[deep mango]

Might be part of the issue

Probably not though

[neat frost]

Ryc the issue people don’t like you is because you don’t let them know about your awesomest discord friend, slurp

[deep mango]

Awesomest

[neat frost]

Yessir

[deep mango]

Is that like the best smelling poop?

[neat frost]

What

I smell amazing and my consistency is far better than that of poop

[deep mango]

Is that like the least gross dumpster

[neat frost]

Wow ryc

I’m literally giving you advice on how to get guys and you’re just dissing me

Simply, wow

[deep mango]

I'm sorry

[neat frost]

No it’s okay ryc, I’ve been hurt by you so many times I’m numb to it now

[deep mango]

Damn

The apologies are just to make it hurt worse

I guess I shouldn't bother then

[neat frost]

Wow

Anyway when are you planning on giving your talk here?

[deep mango]

Oh

Ange and I were talking about tuat

Soon™️

[neat frost]

Oh my bestie ange

[deep mango]

We'll do it together

[neat frost]

Damn

Sounds like fun

You gonna do a latex workshop v2 as well?

[deep mango]

Probably not

I don't really have anything to add

I could just redo it

That would be easy

[fading tusk]

oh here

[fresh stone]

<@&268886789983436800>

[odd narwhal]

??

[fresh stone]

nevermind, someone posted nsfw but it was already acted on

[odd narwhal]

Oh, ok

👍

[glad frigate]

Is a number just a sequence of numbers of length 1?

I would argue yes since it makes sense from a generalist point of view.

[solid snow]

What about 0.3958380101

Or pi

[fair mural]

ew you’re a mod now

[odd narwhal]

No

[fervent pebble]

self referential definition

[glad frigate]

I meant like pi is a sequence of irrationals with length 1

Pi, pi is length 2

[solid snow]

Huh?

[glad frigate]

I just thought of this

[compact tartan]

is it defined that way? no

there is a way to see this as a natural isomorphism (X and lists of X of length 1) but it's an extremely simple idea

[glad frigate]

I looked up the definition of a sequence. Me big dumb

“Formally, a sequence can be defined as a function from natural numbers (the positions of elements in the sequence) to the elements at each position.”

[fervent pebble]

huh

so there's no sequence which contains all the real numbers?

[glad frigate]

What do you mean?

The natural numbers part is the just the index of the elements

[fervent pebble]

yes

that means that there's no sequence containing all real numbers

[glad frigate]

Oh I see cardinality and stuff

[fervent pebble]

ya

[glad frigate]

I think that’s just the restricted definiton

Since the unrestricted one is

“In this article, a sequence is formally defined as a function whose domain is an interval of integers. “

At least according to Wikipedia

[chilly hull]

HELLO MNIIP

why is help chat above intro

[supple parcel]

guys i need #help-30 please

[bronze wedge]

Intuitively, a sequence is exactly what you think it is. If you think choosing the integers is arbitrary, there is also the notion of a net.

[open aspen]

shin got mod and developed a whole new persona

[bronze pelican]

Facts

Ryc-type behavior

[remote osprey]

hello

do yall think mostly As and a few Bs in honors classes in middle school is bad? i have stanford dreams but people keep telling me my grades are too low

[bronze pelican]

Bruh

Middle school grades don't matter for college admissions

Highschool grades do tho

[storm sage]

this is correct

in the usual sense of the word sequence

because the reals are uncountable

[glad frigate]

Wait, does interval of integers mean a set of integers or a set of reals like the usual intervals?

I thought every interval was a set of reals

[mint canopy]

We can define intervals on any poset

But in this case just think of it as the integers intersected with a real interval

[glad frigate]

Got it

[delicate kernel]

isn't a sequence by definition a list of 2 or more?

[brittle socket]

A sequence is a function (f \colon \mathbb{N} \to S), where (S) is some arbitrary set

[fathom swallow]

grass

[wanton shoal]

I want to get into tutoring as a high school student. Anyone know how to start this process?

[leaden torrent]

this is kind of regional but it worked for me: facebook!

a shitton of parents look for tutors for their children on facebook

feels dated but its genuinely the main portal at the middle/high school level

[wanton shoal]

I have never used facebook

I have almost no social media presence

[leaden torrent]

yeah, make an account and find some local tutoring groups or w/e

its what i did

had no difficulty finding students

additionally, try asking around ("networking")

your parents might know someone whose kid needs some extra help, or if not them, then maybe your swim coach or w/e

sounds kinda shilly but its a quick conversation and thats it

most of my pupils were children of my moms' coworkers or their friends

now this was partially because it was a small town

which is admittedly an advantage

but the downside was that i couldnt charge as much, so you win some you lose some

[wanton shoal]

I’m sure they would have already mentioned it, but I’ll ask

[leaden torrent]

if you go to church, thats a great place to ask around as well.

[wanton shoal]

I don’t

[pure relic]

Hello I am a cs student and I want to double major in math because I am interested in it and It would open doors to more interesting cs careers but I dont know if I am intelligent enough. How do you know if your intelligent enough?

[woven whale]

how do you define intelligence?

[pearl moth]

honestly, discipline is more improtant here than intelligence

[pure relic]

Alright thanks everyone I will persue this and work hard

[wispy plover]

@neat lintel I read the abstract, which claims that talent has roots in genetics, while environment is not a huge factor. So I don't know why you linked it in the first place

but just move on

[zenith forge]

only people who did badly in middle school say this, dont listen to them and ace your middle school exams

[neat lintel]

Actually, they’re right. College doesn’t check your middle school record

[carmine briar]

Only people who did well in middle school say this

[neat lintel]

You don’t have to “ace” them but atleast try on them and not just fail because you can, but college admission doesn’t pay attention to your middle school record

[weary token]

@neat lintel "Understanding stuff easier than normal, isn’t a talent, it’s something you’re born with or developed. All these things can be learned, and are learned you don’t just wake up one day good at these subjects"
if you understand stuff easier than other people and you have not put any extra effort into understanding the stuff, is talent isnt it? what do you think? if you disagree i guess we have different definitions of talent. yes, all these things can be learned, but people can also be born with natural abilities that make them easier to understand certain things and easier to accomplish certain things while others have to work hard for it. what do you think?

[bronze pelican]

This

Gabe is a known troll

[neat lintel]

No, it is not a talent. Your brain is more developed so you understand these things easier than others. Talent is like learning how to play the saxophone in 2 months, not understanding Steven hawkings infinite universe theory as if you were thinking of as Steven hawkins better than a classmate

[bronze pelican]

Talent is a myth

[neat lintel]

🤷‍♂️

[wispy plover]

Seems like you want impose your notion of talent to others. The word "talent" is overused, and some people get very emotional about it

[neat lintel]

“natural aptitude or skill.” Is the literal definition of talent, you don’t naturally come out knowing how to doing calculus or some sort of mathematics

[neat lintel]

But, to your last part. Yes, people can be born naturally better at things, but not naturally know these things, they still have to learn them

[wispy plover]

But you can naturally come with an abstract way of reasoning, facility of grasping difficult concepts, skill to remain focused for large periods of time, problem solving, hard working ethic, etc, etc. That's the point.

Sure no one is born knowing the epsilon-delta definition of continuity, but it's not that humans are born with zero mathematics (elementary counting, etc), and that being the case, some will have more of that

[vale vector]

anyone have experience with restrictive combinatorics?

[neat lintel]

True, but you’re not coming out already better than a college physics professor at physics, over a certain amount of time, you may become way better because you’ve learned the math, you’ve studied it and have a better understanding or ability to learn than others

[neat lintel]

I agree, but if my assumption is correct, what he’s attempting to ask is if someone can be naturally born better than others at specific subjects like mathematics

[wispy plover]

Yes, of course. No one is saying that you don't need training. Like what you have said is trivial, and everyone knows it

I can say that cats are better predators than dogs (just a dumb example). And you could trivially object that if a cat is not nurtured by her mother, it won't be able to hunt. But everyone knows that. What is said when we say that an individual may have been born with certain advantages (genetically speaking), is that ceteris paribus those advantages will become evident.

[wispy plover]

Well it is definitely the case

You would accept that dolphins are born better swimmers than humans, or many other species. Swimming is a specific subject

[neat lintel]

🤔 Yeah, that makes a lot more sense than what I’m attempting to say, so honestly I agree that people are born with natural advantages over others but they don’t instantly realize they’re better in these aspects than others until they find some fascination with it, or atleast see or try it

I just believe they have to have atleast some sort of experience within what they have a advantage in

[wispy plover]

Yes, but there's a genetic component to what you get fascinated with (trivially, think about food, sex, etc.)

[neat lintel]

Yeah, what you’re saying honestly makes a lot more sense than what I’m attempting to describe

[wispy plover]

Some people get very sensible with this topic for some reason.

[storm sage]

at least in the us, "genetic science" was used to justify eugenics historically so it's a touchy topic

[wispy plover]

oh yeah you are right. For some reason I always forget eugenicists went crazy. But my impression is that modern denial of "genetic science" does not respond to that

("modern denial" as the denial that may exist nowadays, not that the science is generally denied, it is not)

At least for what I have seen

[bright hill]

my opinion on such matters is that even if there really was a genetic advantage, people should ideally act is if there was not.

[wispy plover]

I think I agree, yes. But on the other side, meaning that some features are (to some extent at least) based on genetics, may be consolating. For example, think about homosexuality. Many believed it was due to some deviated nurturing, and so parents may have felt responsible, etc.

(Now, I'm not exactly sure what the scientific consensus on that is, but I think most people think homo/heterosexuality is just genetics (?), but I think the point is clear)

[bright hill]

no one knows their true potential so trying to know "if you're talented enough" or if this person is more talented simply because they did X faster or w/e is just counterproductive and silly

comparing yourself to others is silly

[bright hill]

iirc last time I researched this, the consensus is that it's prolly a combination of genetics/environment/childhood/etc

but we don't know for sure

[bright hill]

what's even more silly is people do this even when it's not a competition

[wispy plover]

It's just loser mentality

[bright hill]

like, I think most people can contribute positively to science

even if they couldn't with research or smth

[bright hill]

yeah, exactly

[storm sage]

People respond negatively to genetics research in specific areas such as intelligence for various reasons

Association with eugenics is a big one

[bright hill]

holy shit that's messed up

why tf is this the first time I hear about that term?

also, I thought it was just a nazi thing

[wispy plover]

I don't think most people know what that was actually about. They will just say nazi bad

[bright hill]

but it seems most of the western world had adopted such policies

[storm sage]

lots of americans were p onboard with nazism until the us entered wwii

see: charles lindbergh

[bright hill]

[storm sage]

iirc hitler drew inspiration from us treatment of black people

[bright hill]

[mint totem]

Not far at all. I'd kinda be winging it if I took the class. Sorry for the delayed answer.

I could probably learn proofs by then

[little vine]

It wasn't a great book in my experience

[mint totem]

The one I'm reading?

[little vine]

Yeah Ross

It's not awful and you can learn from it

Don't get me wrong

But as far as the analysis books I've experienced I have my preferences

[cobalt vigil]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hairy_ball_theorem

thank you wikipedia random article

[fair mural]

horrifying

[chilly coral]

Seeing a video on 0.999... = 1:

Reading the comments:

[zealous garden]

the comments

are always a dive into the worst

[tiny sapphire]

Are there any non commies in here

Because I have a lot of communists in all of the other servers I'm in

[chilly coral]

I doubt there's anything special about math that draws in people with a certain economics belief

[vernal coyote]

there is

if someone is completely dumb

he cant do math really

and to believe communism can work after so many exaples of how it cant

you know...

[tender tulip]

hur dur limit there’s enough 9’s to be within one epsilon of 1 for any small epsilon hur

ignoring how that the only proof that |x|^n approaches 0 for |x| < 1 and n approches infinity is annoying at least the way i proved it with Bernoulli inequality

[ancient basalt]

You'd be surprised by the number of litteral commies and anarchists in high studies of maths

[surreal sapphire]

people still believe capitalism works after so many examples of it not working

[ancient basalt]

That's it!

[tender tulip]

economic system that ACTUALLY work? Real?

[cobalt vigil]

obviously MY preferred economic system WOULD WORK, if it were run CORRECTLY

[pearl moth]

the economic system works as designed: it efficiently transfers wealth from the poor to the rich

honestly the hardest part is figuring out a way to convince the poor that siphoning all their wealth away is something that they want

[tender tulip]

greed’s instoppable

[fading tusk]

you can convince them by having a good survivorship bias in all forms of media

[bright hill]

every once in a while, I am blessed by the algorithm with this masterpiece, and today I decided it is high time I share it with #serious-discussion

ladies and gents and everyone else...

enjoy:

oh

woops

that's an image

enjoy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbciZAlYUt0

lmfao

[flat harbor]

this was my gym cycling jam for like 2 months

[quiet swan]

so before i study precalc do you guys have a list of things i need to master or learn? i didnt really learn during my jhs years the school system in my country sucks i need to be more independent

[fringe needle]

that moment when of all the exercises on the sheet, the one that you have to hand in is the tedious one with ugly computations and no deep implications...

[bright hill]

so like

literally all my courses atm?

got it 🙂

[flat harbor]

it builds character

[fringe needle]

Yeah but unless I’m mistaken, with you courses it’s even worst darq cause all the exercises are tedious computations

What pains me here is that literally all the other exercises are fun and hard

But just the one I have to hand in sucks

[bright hill]

we spent 4 hours and a half changing to and from binary, octal, decimal and hexadecimal bases

🙂

I'm having fun!

[fringe needle]

oof i feel for you

[pearl moth]

ooh, baby stuff

i was doing that at like age 9

i remember spending hours writing out a multiplication table in hex

and then did a division table, hex fractions are hard

wel, radix expansions thereof, at least

1/3 = 0.5555...

[bright hill]

I don't even know when I learned this stuff lmao

[pearl moth]

i remember typing them out on a manual typewriter

cuz, like, i was weird

(still am)

[bright hill]

[pearl moth]

this was while i was visitiung my mom at her place in michigan when she was doing her internship, and i had fuckall else to do during the day

it was either taht or go wandering looking for wild strawberries

couldn't go to the pool without an adult

[uncut socket]

@neat lintel I think pink/purple name is because they are boosting the server, nitro boost or whatever discord calls it, and it supersedes the helpful role color

[neat lintel]

they are a very cool people role

[uncut socket]

Yes which is server boosting

[neat frost]

May I make a suggestion DarQ?

Get fucking good

[bright hill]

Oh please

[neat frost]

Yes papa

[bright hill]

Pretty sure I can train a monkey to do that monotonous number crunching for me

Doesn't take much of getting good

[neat frost]

Monogamous number crunching?

Sounds like a drag

[neat frost]

The getting good was so you wouldn’t have to do it. Training a monkey to do it for you would be an example of getting good

[bright hill]

Academic dishonesty my beloved

[neat frost]

Oh come on

If you could train a monkey to do that, I’d let you cheat on any test you’d like

[bright hill]

I say that unironically

[neat frost]

And I’m saying it’s hardly academic dishonesty

[bright hill]

I agree

[neat frost]

If you could train a monkey to do your work for you, I’d give you a degree if I could

Not in math ofc

In like neuroscience or some other lame field

[bright hill]

inb4 slurp discovers what humans are

[neat frost]

Cringe

[bright hill]

Fax are often cringe

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[neat frost]

You’re cringe

[bright hill]

[split pawn]

How's my pfp guys?

I know its not HD but still, how's it

[zealous garden]

gravity?

[split pawn]

Spacetime curvature.

(3d version)

Yeah

Could call that gravity.

[zealous garden]

gravity is spacetime curvature

relativistic gravity at least

[meager sentinel]

RIP Newton

[split pawn]

Haha

[split pawn]

Yep

[split pawn]

Gravity is not a force but the curvature of spacetime.

• Einstein

(Paraphrased)

[zealous garden]

and the apparent gravitational force is an illusion because the earth is accelerating outwards at 9.8 m/s^2

[split pawn]

yEAH

The geodesics and stuff going on

[zealous garden]

the time dilation, length contraction, and spacetime curvature all work together to make it look simple

[split pawn]

Actually lemme have dinner and I'll ttyl. See ya guys.

[split pawn]

Okie Im here

[split pawn]

Yep.

That clock which runs on a light pulse (forgot the proper name for it)

[zealous garden]

a light clock

[split pawn]

Nah Ig it had a cool name haha

Yeah well thats the name then

Thats kinda cool and fascinating

[zealous garden]

informative too

[split pawn]

Yeah!

Well the maths is real easy there

[gloomy hound]

x^2 -3x + 2

(x-2)(x-1)

x(x-1)(3x +2)

[next violet]

what is 1 + 1?

[dusty compass]

7

[delicate kernel]

11

Didn't specify data type

[storm sage]

is it too soon to regret doing math

[peak tide]

what kind of lunatic states these axioms that way

[little vine]

There it is

[chilly hull]

is this #proofs-and-logic or is this #foundations

[thin heron]

@little vine

can u please check statistics-probability channel

i discovered something

[fervent pebble]

what the fuck

will i ever have to take whatever class you're taking?

i dont want to

[storm sage]

Lol it's not actually scary when you put it in words, but seeing it written out with the symbols is amusing

[vast cipher]

is there some way to view the oldest posts

[solid snow]

Theoretically you can with the search bar

But discord sucks

[vast cipher]

yea this feels horrible lol

i dont wanna help the people who just posted over others

but then idk where to start

some of these posts are like 4 days old

[split pawn]

Good question.

[bright hill]

Yo, @neat frost @arctic grove I'll do a Dedekind cuts/construction of the reals stream in a few hours

(it's about time I got those out of the way )

Interested?

[dusty wagon]

It’s just bad typeset tbh

[odd narwhal]

Does this formulation of choice require disjoint sets?

[neat frost]

No that’s boring

[eager reef]

[dusty wagon]

Yo that’s like the least emphatic answer you could possibly give

When someone offers you to join a talk he gives about a topic he likes

You don’t call it boring

[surreal sapphire]

but what if its really boring

[dusty wagon]

Then you just think it’s boring but don’t tell him

[wicked plank]

I wouldn't call it boring, just rather laborious

[neat frost]

Nah I think you misunderstand mine and DarQ’s dynamic (I bully him)

[dusty wagon]

Alright then it’s fine

[compact tartan]

wanna do an event?

[deep mango]

I bet slurp actually thinks dedekind cuts are super interesting

I wish I could join but i cant

[bright hill]

Nothing so formal haha

I just wanna stream math casually

Would love to do an event sometime tho

[bright hill]

Your loss

[bright hill]

Dunno how fun it'd be to be honest, I just wanna drag him into this for entertainment value

[bright hill]

Sotrue, toddler.

[arctic grove]

sure i suppose

but ping me before u start

[bright hill]

[neat frost]

… I just called them boring you illiterate peasant

[bright hill]

Everyone knows you're a tsundere tho

You calling them boring means nothing

[neat frost]

Wow fuck you

Super weeb

Also what’re your thoughts about the proposition I made last night

[bright hill]

What proposition?

[neat frost]

Wow

[flat harbor]

lmao slurp is a tsundere

[neat frost]

In DMs

[bright hill]

OH

not sure if mniip would allow us to stream that here lmao

[flat harbor]

we all know that tsundere irl means bpd

[neat frost]

It doesn’t need to be here

[flat harbor]

but as long as he calls me oneechan thats fine

[neat frost]

Tf is bpd

[mint canopy]

TRUE LOL

[neat frost]

,w bpd

[fathom swallow]

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[neat frost]

Ah ofc

[bright hill]

[neat frost]

Oh

[bright hill]

Sure

[neat frost]

Borderline

[mint canopy]

Oh wait do you mean borderline personality or bipolar?

[flat harbor]

bipolar disorder

[mint canopy]

If it's the first 😰

Lol good

[neat frost]

Also that’s the wrong class of personality disorders blo

I’m not class C or whatever that is

[flat harbor]

but the first makes me go hmmm too

[bright hill]

Not the black dog thingie tho lel

[flat harbor]

ofc ure very special

[neat frost]

Or cluster

[flat harbor]

now be a good boy and have fun with darq ok

[neat frost]

Ah fuck it’s cluster B

[flat harbor]

ill make u cup noodles for dinner today ❤️

[bright hill]

Sounds like its only selling point is being tastelessly crude

[neat frost]

Oh you meant bipolar

I’m not fucking bipolar

[flat harbor]

haha thats such a classic slurp line

i love this guy

[neat frost]

No my proposition is dependent on us watching this

[neat frost]

I love you too oneesan

[bright hill]

🙄

[neat frost]

Well that shut em up thank god

[bright hill]

Finee

Ugh

[neat frost]

DarQ it’ll be fun!!!

Blo wanna join us?

[flat harbor]

i will go yandere on u

[neat frost]

This is exactly blo’s type of anime

[flat harbor]

what is the abime

[neat frost]

I’ll DM you

[flat harbor]

ok

[bright hill]

Lmfao

[neat frost]

Oh btw I’m not taking credit for finding this

Someone sent it on P&T

[bright hill]

What's p&t?

[neat frost]

Paradox & TeXit

Smh do I have to explain the acronym every fucking time I use it??

It ruins the whole purpose of a fucking acronym

[flat harbor]

Powerblo & tSlurp

[bright hill]

I've heard of it before tbh lmfaoo

[flat harbor]

its our shipname

[neat frost]

Fuck OFF blo

[flat harbor]

pin this comment!!!

[neat frost]

What about ryc?

Do we invite him as well

[flat harbor]

i think ryc wuld think ure problematic and report u to the authorities

[neat frost]

Ryc already has tried that but I’m a lil weasel and he couldn’t catch me

[flat harbor]

ok but the irs will

[bright hill]

No you're not

You're a possum

[flat harbor]

hes a red panda

an adorable red panda that i wuld like to tuck in my bag and never let out

[neat frost]

Oh yeah my b

I’m a fox you dumbasses

[bright hill]

Anyhow

Are u serious about the uh

Black dog?

[flat harbor]

lmao

[bright hill]

Coz I'm streaming math with shyshy in an hour...

[flat harbor]

id say theres better ways to spend ur time

[neat frost]

Yes

[neat frost]

Not today

[bright hill]

Why not lol

[flat harbor]

have fun boys ill set some snacks out for u

slurp loves ginseng candies so ill put a lot of them there

[neat frost]

Because it’s a holiday tonight so Imma be busy

Oh also idk why I assumed it was anime, it’s manga

[bright hill]

LMFAOO

How tf are we going to stream that?

Are you going to narrate for us?

[neat frost]

Sure!

Omg the first chapter is a BANGER

[flat harbor]

oh it didnt have an anime adaptation?

here i was thinking i missed out on smth spectacular

[neat frost]

Okay the only redeeming quality of this is its plot

But good mangas are bad

[deep mango]

[flat harbor]

u dont wanna know

[deep mango]

Please follow the server rules while streaming in our voice channels.

[neat frost]

Well that’s why we’re not

[deep mango]

In particular, streams should remain safe for work.

[neat frost]

Duh didn’t even read the convo

[neat frost]

.

[bright hill]

Don't worry, there'll hopefully be many other streams in the future

[neat frost]

I wanna make a video/stream about the cantor set/function

Did I tell you about my amazing analogy?

[bright hill]

If you want, we can do smth else today and leave construction of the reals some other day

[deep mango]

So this is just to watch some dumb anime which is pirared huh?

Not something weird

[neat frost]

No it turns out it’s a manga

Yeah

The manga itself is weird

[deep mango]

Oh

What manga

[bright hill]

I'm not sure if it's nsfw lmao

[deep mango]

[bright hill]

It's just that the name of the mangas is a lil sus

[neat frost]

The premise itself is NSFW but idk if the manga itself is

[deep mango]

Ah

[neat frost]

Dude did you even read the summary

[bright hill]

Lol

[deep mango]

Shin and i need to go back to yu gi oh the abridged series eventually

[neat frost]

Oh also it didn’t even occur to me what the name sounded like

Oops

[bright hill]

I thought it was a joke

[bright hill]

Bruh

[neat frost]

That’s like actual weebery

[bright hill]

Actually no way

[deep mango]

I dont really care about yu gi oh but hearing him geek out about the lore from a kids anime is really funny

[neat frost]

Lmfaoo

[bright hill]

I don't believe that for a sec

[neat frost]

Where is shiny-boy

[bright hill]

He's called sin now

[deep mango]

Hopefully busy and not looking at this channel

[neat frost]

Shiny-boy.

[bright hill]

Which I think is really fitting

[deep mango]

It is

[neat frost]

Oh anyway DarQ wanna hear my cantor set analogy?

[deep mango]

Remember when shin was yellow and kinda cool

You did this darq

[neat frost]

Yeah

I blame DarQ

[deep mango]

You turned shin into a dorky mod

I guess there are some cool mods

Like loch

Or ryc

[bright hill]

yellow
Kinda cool

Ye

Sure

[flat harbor]

haha good one ryc

ryc is totally cool! like jimmy neutron cool

[neat frost]

No fuck ryc hate the dude

[deep mango]

Jimmy neutron fucking sucks

[neat frost]

Exactly ryc

[deep mango]

I hated that show

[neat frost]

Now you’re getting it

[flat harbor]

and u became what u hated.... poetric irony

[neat frost]

Tbh blo good call ryc gives off jimmy neutron vibes

[deep mango]

The only good thing to come out of jimmy neutron is that gif where they laugh at him while he falls asleep

The jimbo conspiracy theorist meme is dumb

[flat harbor]

cmon ryc say "brain blast" and solve that funkopop equation!,!!

[deep mango]

https://tenor.com/view/cindy-laugh-jimmy-neutron-mistazelf-fade-to-black-gif-22088138

[neat frost]

What about Jimmy Neutron-Grubhub connected universe?

[deep mango]

This is the gif im thinking of

[neat frost]

I fucking hate matpat

[bright hill]

Is it gonna be smth stupid?

[flat harbor]

jimmy neutron grubhub is maybe the best thing to come out of matpat in the recent decade

other than his dreamsmp predictions

[deep mango]

Imagine knowing anything that came out of matpat

[flat harbor]

probably your mum

[deep mango]

The transition from being compared by older relatives from the midwest to jimmy neutron as a kid to being compared to sheldon as a tween was a shock to my system

[bright hill]

I just hate his video style tbh

[flat harbor]

being compared to jimmy neutron as a kid and being compared to him as an adult are vastly different concepts and u shuld understand this

[deep mango]

Im not even anything like either of them

I dont care about trains or flags

I care about reality tv and sports

Im literally just like these people but I also happen to have a job doing math

I guess im a lot more of a normie now than I was when I was a kid

[neat frost]

Also Sheldon’s a PHYSICIST and ryc, you’re n- oh wait

[deep mango]

Yes

True

Raj is the coolest, astrophysics is so cool

Why didnt i stick with astrophysics

[eager reef]

i agree

"pass me the salt"
"Don't you mean the sodium-chloride 🤓 "

goofy ahh

[bright hill]

Can't believe I used to buy into that cheese when I was a kid lmao

[neat frost]

NaH

[bright hill]

Don't u mean NaCl?

[neat frost]

Oh?

Idk I haven’t taken chem in years

But that’s still embarrassing

[eager reef]

i didn't know the correct translation

[bright hill]

Oh, you were trying to say NaCl?

[neat frost]

Idk

[eager reef]

wait no

i was right

[neat frost]

If you say so?

[bright hill]

Lmfaoo that's even more hilarious

[eager reef]

it's sodium chloride

[neat frost]

Oh wait chloride being Cl makes sense

[bright hill]

Dummy

[neat frost]

DarQ

[bright hill]

Slurp

[neat frost]

You’re making me cry

[bright hill]

Tears of happiness?

[neat frost]

No

[deep mango]

[bright hill]

Git gud

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[normal dagger]

I failed a quiz I want to jump off a bridge

[odd narwhal]

It's also funny

U fucking nerd

Also, Yu-Gi-Oh is really not a children's anime, 4kids turned it into one

The original anime had way too much gore to be child friendly and the manga had some psycho shit

[bright hill]

The dude with the white hair was fucking psychotic bruh

[zealous garden]

"pass me the salt"
collects corrosion from car battery

[bright hill]

Holy shit, that scene where he was dueling joey was quite literally psychological horror

[zealous garden]

mfw 4kids had to completely invent the shadow world to avoid revealing that they were showing children a show about a death game

[brittle socket]

Hi (^nC_y=\frac{n!}{(n-y)!y!})

[fathom swallow]

grass

[bright hill]

The shadow realm is canon tho, isn't it?

It's just that, canonically, getting banished to the shadow realm is worse than death

Whatever that might entail lel

[untold sapphire]

Jimmy Neutron was an entertaining movie

[zealous garden]

The Shadow Realm is alleged to be a place of suffering where people could be sent to. It was designed by 4Kids Entertainment for the dubbed version of the Yu-Gi-Oh! second series anime. If a death or serious injury would occur in the Japanese version, the dub would censor it by having the victim be sent to the Shadow Realm instead; hence, the Shadow Realm is regarded as a euphemism for death and other disastrous events used for the dub.

[bright hill]

(fuck, why do I know so much about Yu gi oh? I literally haven't watched that shit since years ago)

[zealous garden]

Shadow Games were depicted as occurring in another dimension which was also called the Shadow Realm. It was this dark dimension (so named by Maximillion Pegasus) that formed the basis for the Shadow Realm in the English version.

[untold sapphire]

yugioh abridged was very funny

[bright hill]

It was lel

[zealous garden]

so kinda, but not in the way it's used

[untold sapphire]

maximillion isn't even the way the real persons' name is spelled

they changed the spelling for the cartoon

[lavish kayak]

i liked the engineer most

he seems practical in the show

[deep mango]

Yes yes sure that too

But you also prove my point right afterwards

[odd narwhal]

Fuck you

[fair mural]

shin angy

[deep mango]

[outer eagle]

I'm looking for a little advice on studying.

I have to get through 5 weeks of math coursework in two weeks. I have been trying to complete each section 100% before I move on but I feel like that may be causing me to lag behind. I want to learn, but I also want to pass my class and not have to take it again (and pay again)... should I just push through the content as fast as possible even if I don't understand it 100%?

[orchid chasm]

u should skip it all

[barren anchor]

just make a list of topics, section off a few for the day, and do pomodoros. You need to practice in a context where you can learn from your mistakes, so in general if it's harder to find resources (worked solutions, tutors, whatever) for a certain subject, save that for last and learn where the learning will be effective.

I don't recommend "pushing through" in a math, because later things tend to build on earlier things

so prioritize by resource-friendliness, and start at the earlier topics

it's pretty essential that you work problems yourself. really, a worked set of example problems is worth it's weight in gold, so find those.

if you do know a topic exists in a vacuum, i.e. skipping it won't just slow you down in later content, then it's fine to do that if you also know it won't be weighted highly on the test, but it's pretty hard to know that without already knowing the course.

[outer eagle]

Luckily there are no tests in this course, just two projects. It's an introduction to linear algebra course.

[barren anchor]

oh lol well you'll be fine then

[outer eagle]

I'm not fine!

[barren anchor]

you can still employ the techniques I mentioned to do yourself an efficiency in understanding those projects, which may or may not actually be necessary

u be aight

[outer eagle]

I'll try to pomodoro better... I usually blow past my time

[barren anchor]

I liked MIT's OCW by Strang for linear algebra btw

lectures are crystal clear and give you nice presentations of some key concepts

yeah it's hard to pump the brakes but I think necessary to do

[outer eagle]

Thanks btw. I'll check it out the mit ocw

[barren anchor]

yeyp. It's got hw & solutions too, pretty complete.

[tender tulip]

hm?

[bright hill]

https://youtu.be/puezVKLwfiM

The way Joey's character was portrayed previously you'd never think you'd find him in such a scene

It was quite a sudden change of pace

OG Yu GI just got so much better in the middle

Particularly when marik was first introduced

Its also worth noting that it went down hill as well after ||he was purged||

At least imo

(I'm not a nerd, i swear)

[zealous garden]

I teared up

[neat lintel]

Hi. The method that I was using to solve the cubic equation is this, sorry @hollow topaz

[neat lintel]

Correction: Cardano's formula

[hollow topaz]

Ok, this appears new to me

ty for telling

[neat lintel]

Cardano to the rescue.
#ImaginaryNumbersAreReal
#FuckDescartes

[neat lintel]

Do Any of you

Have a good (FREE) program recommended for math notes handwriting?

Something like Microsoft Whiteboard, that isn't crap however

[bright hill]

I think onenote has a handwriting option?

It comes with windows free to use, I believe, but I also think there's a paid subscription option

[neat lintel]

I WILL CHECK

[fervent pebble]

ygotas is a masterpiece

lk >>

[devout nacelle]

Xournal++ is very nice

[limber thunder]

I'm using xournal++ right now lol

good for a free/open-source program

[untold sapphire]

look i am as much an open source fan as the next guy

we all love open source right

who doesn't love open source

that said onenote is far superior to xournal++ imo, no competition. onenote is just far superior to most other things on the market if you have a tablet with windows

[flat harbor]

is there room for mayhaps another obsidian simp to burge in

[fervent pebble]

i ❤️ obsidian

[untold sapphire]

they are yeah it can be kinda crazy to export them. I am trying to remember how I solved this problem... I think the problem is that onenotes keep much much richer information about the written text so that you can delete whole arcs/strokes at a time. Somehow it doesn't discard this right in the pdf... I did have to deal with this, I don't remember how I got around it.

[bright hill]

Obsidian got no handwriting option afaik

[flat harbor]

use plugins

what was the big plugin uhh excalibur or smth?

[mint canopy]

The Excalidraw plugin is pretty good for that

Much like TeX packages or Rimworld mods, the motto with Obsidian is "there's a plugin for that!"

[celest summit]

hey guys

[hollow topaz]

Which plugins would you recommend for Obsidian in general? I have obsidian but I don't use it as much I would like to. Maybe some newer features could get me going

[flat harbor]

id recom u to start off w smth ull actly use long term

i use latex suite mostly

but i also use a combo of templater and another scripting plugin to manage my notes n links

[iron osprey]

i be using notion

also samsung notes for note taking

[tight comet]

I just got a Samsung tablet recently and apparently most note taking apps don't use tablet-palm-detection features

[neat frost]

You use obsidian?

[deep mango]

Blo has tried to shill obsidian to me before

[neat frost]

Why would you ever use obsidian other than to go to the nether?

[flat harbor]

🤣🤣🤣 GOOD ONE slurp! 🤣🤣🤮😂🤣

[ripe wasp]

a chemistry question but what is the scientific word for like bubbling under water?

https://tenor.com/view/underwater-bubbles-gif-13254400

kinda like this

[brittle socket]

Google be like: Am i a joke to you

[ripe wasp]

i searched it

nothing came up

that i was looking for

[brittle socket]

I suppose you wanted effervescence

?

[ripe wasp]

there was a different word i was thinking of

it's on the tip of my tongue

but i cant quite place it

[neat frost]

Don’t judge me, you fucking use obsidian dumbass

[ripe wasp]

i used it a lot in a biology lab i was in

for example when bubbles formed in water after an electric charge started flowing through it

[flat harbor]

whats me fucking got to do with me using obsidian

[brittle socket]

Bubbles go BRRRRTTT

[deep mango]

According to @long matrix it's bird poop

[neat frost]

*your bird poop

[brittle socket]

[ripe wasp]

🗿

[cosmic roost]

grass, are you good at equation solving by any chance?

[brittle socket]

[ripe wasp]

that's a bit...vague

[brittle socket]

Read rules and #❓how-to-get-help

[cosmic roost]

Grass

I am not asking for help

If your answer is yes

then i will explain after I reply to sean

[cosmic roost]

ik it is, I mean in particular any equation involving elementary functions

are you good at that by any chance?

[brittle socket]

Oh sry

[cosmic roost]

its fine

[cosmic roost]

but are you good at it in general?