serious-discussion

[modest rune]

I do think a lot of students are expected to think about rref as an unmotivated algorithm

which is ofc bad

[eager reef]

The new professor at my uni is gonna hold an alg top course

Im hyped

We didn’t have anyone who offered that before

[bright hill]

I think he reduced a bunch of matrices for 40 minutes and expected us to infer that's he's not just doing it randomly

there actually rules that exist which he's following

[wild lantern]

Does his book cover it?

[deep mango]

I dont remember this at all

I remember learning the the terminology and the heuristic for how to reduce

[modest rune]

You didnt learn the algorithm ryc?

Theres like

a pretty functional way to do it without thinking at all

[deep mango]

I do remember learning the algorithm

I dont remember what darq is saying

And I used this course

[modest rune]

oh

i see

[wild lantern]

It might make sense if the ocw vids expect people to read the book in a certain order

[deep mango]

But ofc it was never listed as like

A flowchart of rules

[bright hill]

the rules insure that rref is unique

which has theoretical importance

[deep mango]

Rref is unique either way

If you know what "rref" means

Or

I guess you can reorder the rows or something dumb like that

[modest rune]

unique up to contractible space of choices

[bright hill]

😵‍💫

what does that mean?

[modest rune]

nothing meaningful

[bright hill]

lel

[bright hill]

rule 2 doesn't allow that

what I was saying is that these (axioms/rules/w/e) were never explicitly mentioned in his lectures

[deep mango]

Those arent rules for how to construct rreff

That's the definition

I would be surprised if he doesn't define RREF

[modest rune]

the Zermelo-Frankel rules

[deep mango]

I like

How did I learn this if I didnt learn it from strangs lectures

[wild lantern]

Are his videos meant to be a standalone resource?

[deep mango]

Thats how I used them

Along with the recitations and the psets/exams

[wild lantern]

Like, in a normal class it's not uncommon to have that kind of stuff covered in required readings in the syllabus.

[deep mango]

(and then I retook lin alg in uni, a more theory based version)

So maybe im remembering that

[burnt dune]

sheldon axler

has linear algebra on youtube

following his textbook

[velvet dagger]

The way I learned LA kinda dodged rref somehow

[deep mango]

Those are great but you do need to read the book for those

They explicitly do not cover a good portion of the material

I like those the best though

[burnt dune]

you do not want to read a text?

[velvet dagger]

When my analysis class had us do Hoffman-Kunze we did some rref

[deep mango]

I barely ever want to read a text if I can help it

[burnt dune]

okay let me send u something

[velvet dagger]

But my first "class" on LA basically only cared about row reduction to prove that row = column rank

And the idea was just, row operations don't change column rank and vice versa, then you can just reduce to, basically "Smith normal form"

[burnt dune]

i started learning about math probably like 4 years ago started with prof leonard precalc. and from that time he promised us a linear algebra playlist

there is still no linear algebra playlist

so sad

[velvet dagger]

Treason

[burnt dune]

awy b2a

seriously its so asd

sad

i hope u know about him

prof leonard is literally daddy

[velvet dagger]

I don't

[burnt dune]

so sad

[velvet dagger]

Honestly I don't have patience for learning through videos anyway

[burnt dune]

me neither hahaha

but

i have never been to an actual math lecture uptill like 1 and ahlf year ago

a prof told me i should come and attend his algebraic number theory class

dude lectures are so much easierrr

like they actually do examples of each theorem

before proving stuff

its so much easier than just reading a textbook alone

lecutres>textbooks>youtube

[last estuary]

wait is this hubbard?

[neat frost]

I have a feeling that being a worrywart is not stereotypical drill sergeant behavior

Also I bet you’re the kind of person who doesn’t even yell

[bright hill]

Ye

[last estuary]

lol seeing hubbard is so rare i feel

[bright hill]

Well, it must've went over my head then

[bright hill]

Coz Hubbard cringe

[last estuary]

true jk ive heard hes a very nice guy

[neat lintel]

It’s a good book :(

[deep mango]

What do you mean?

I am a pretty aggressive worryer

[deep mango]

Lol that could not be further from the truth

I mean I dont yell all the time

But like

I have to try not to yell a lot

The hubbard shills are trying to false flag

Ok

Uh huh

Very poetic

[bright hill]

I feel the opposite frankly

at least the linear algebra part

hubbards approach to LA is very concrete

which made it a lot easier to digest the abstract perspective when I switched to artin

I'm talking about him barely even touching abstract vectors spaces (and doing a mediocre job tbh)

like, I don't even think there are matrices in there with entries from a different field than R

[vivid halo]

Lmfao

concrete to abstract

[bright hill]

nG is cringing so hard rn lmao

besides, there are vector spaces that are not isomorphic to R^n

not even $\bR^\i$

[fathom swallow]

DarQ

[ancient flame]

$\bR^{|\bR|}$

[fathom swallow]

gmod

[neat frost]

Yes but how is that related to drill sergeant

[neat frost]

,tex I doubt it. you probably talk like \fontuse cmr5 scaled 400 this. (Small because you don’t yell)

[deep mango]

I get nervous that things outside of my control will go wrong so I take control of things and boss people around if I dont stop myself

And like

Get very anxious when control over situations is torn from me by people I don't trust and such, and that usually manifests itself pretty assertively

Obviously I have gotten better at tempering this and just going with the flow a lot more now since i am not an adolescent anymore

And in actual crises usually the control freak turns off almost completely

[neat frost]

Oh

Weirdo

[deep mango]

You're lucky hippie mode is on right now!

[burnt basin]

for graduate level mathematics, does one have to be naturally brilliant at math?

[deep mango]

Anyway it's not actually weird because whenever I do take over situations they always go right, and whenever I think I need to and then don't in like 85% of cases something goes wrong

[deep mango]

Certainly not. But math academia is really competitive

[storm sage]

I relate a lot

[deep mango]

More than anything the important skills are patience with yourself, being willing to spend a lot of time and energy learning, and also being open to collaborating with people / learning from people / teaching people.

[burnt basin]

hmm, thanks!

i’m sorta looking towards academia, cuz the forefront of knowledge in any field fascinates me, but i worry that it takes a certain je ne sais quoi that one either has or doesn’t have, just as it’s impossible to be a good composer without innate musicality.

[deep mango]

I dont personally think any of that makes any sense, but I dont know anything about this

(and i dont think many people do)

If there is innate talent it is almost surely massively eclipsed by the amount of time, effort, passion, and collaboration that people put into their work

[south kelp]

all skills I'm not great at lol rip. The only thing I do have going for myself is some innate mathematical ability but I'm nothing amazing either, and certainly not enough to compensate for my lack of skill in these other areas.

[deep mango]

Well

If you arent super deeply invested in learning math for the rest of your life

Which is kind of what i'm saying

Idk why a career in academia would be ideal anyway

Academic careers kinda suck

There are many avenues to do more interdisciplinary research for much more money

In industry contexts

[south kelp]

Yeah that's probably what'll end up happening, I think I have too much chronic depression for academia lol

So it zaps my ability to be passionate about pretty much anything :s

That said math is still what I'm most passionate about, it's just a low bar to contend for that lol

[deep mango]

I kind of feel that tbh

The more math I do the more people I find who are willing to just think about math almost every day all day

And that is not me

People will be like "OMG i took a day off from math, this is so unusual!" which is awesome, and yeah I used to also think that way in undergrad. But now I take days off from math a whole lot

Maybe that will stop soon

Anyway, getting more and more comfortable with there being multiple routes towards fulfillment

[simple raven]

I think you can make a great career in math, while not doing math every day, all the time

Mental health is important

And being off for a few days can really help

It's not healthy to have this idea than in order to do math, you must dedicate your entiere life to it

There are lot of "normal people" doing research math, having a family, hobbies etc

[modest rune]

I think these people aren’t worth being too worried about

Once the mathematicians I respect most has often been accused of playing so much elden ring that he is behind on a bunch of projects

[bright hill]

loch vibes

[burnt dune]

just have fun man forget about people

[deep mango]

Yeah i was mostly trying to subtweet own shin

[bright hill]

what does that mean?

[bright hill]

I feel that on a spiritual level

[full isle]

who is own shin?

[bright hill]

I own shin

[neat lintel]

what’s the hardest problem you’ve ever solved

[full isle]

I can tell you hardest unsolved problem

[deep mango]

That's the ideal but it's also not how careers work

And like

[surreal badger]

Does anyone know how 3b1b videos are rendered i want pretty curves

[deep mango]

How collaborative work happens

[wild lantern]

Smh my my head I own two shins

[deep mango]

Sometimes you need to be not having the most fun in order to make what you want to happen happen, that's totally fine

I didn't consider math fun for a few months, I had to do it anyway, and then after the summer started I stopped doing it completely for like a month. I have no problem with that, but then you talk to people who are like "omg, I feel so guilty that I didnt do any math for the last 3 days" and it's like, our research interests align but am I willing to work with you?

[neat lintel]

Sure but also the hardest one you have solved

[full isle]

idk about hardest ive solved

nothing spectacular for sure

i guess probably a homework question

[neat lintel]

That is fair

[wild lantern]

Why would you not be willing to work with somebody like that?

Are you just worried they'd be pushy and annoying?

[full isle]

yes

maybe not pushy and annoying

but just incompatible for different reasons

[rigid mortar]

can coach/boost in val for help in math

[wild lantern]

I guess I can understand why that could be an issue.

It's kinda challenging having to negotiate those kinds of issues for other activities even with people who are less obsessive.

[cold needle]

its just weird lol

gives bad vibes

people who cant take breaks from stuff they like in general 🤔 and then proceed to complain when they do get breaks from it

Oog

but dats my take on it

[deep mango]

I have no problem with it and could definitely work with it. It just signifies to me that two people are in different places with their relationship with their work, and that this could generate friction or imbalanced progress

But then again, sometimes I need someone like that to like

Push me to match the same pace

I have tried that and I can do it for a few months but eventually the incompatibility catches up to me

I am much more of a slow burn, "tidal" learner I believe

Than someone who works in quick bursts on many different things

I'll always be happy to learn, but I'm rarely going to be so invested that I choose to spend a day that I'd planned to have off working instead

That happened a lot in undergrad actually

It's really nice to not be bound to that

Anymore

At the same time, I underwent a lot of personal shifting and progress over the last year and that exhausted a lot of the energy that I would mostly devote to academics. I get the feeling that this year will be different

[cold needle]

hmm i see

[bright hill]

I've been outplayed

damn

[untold sapphire]

Yeah I think it's very unhealthy. Even if you do do math all the time there's not necessarily a direct correlation between that and any form of success lol. You should make sure you're fulfilled in how you're spending your time

[modest rune]

I only do math when ryc isn’t doing math

In order to guilt him

[swift sinew]

Without additional context, what could be the difference between the two "contrasting" things here:
"We will not tweak their construction, we [instead] want to use their example as a base to construct our own."
The only thing I can think of is that in the latter, their example will be directly referenced in our construction.

[errant ridge]

(not sure if rumor) but apparently hilbert did only 4 hours of math a day

[deep mango]

I'll make sure to keep doing no math as a service to you

I expect compensation

[deep mango]

I don't think its abnormal at all to do about 4 hours of concerted math a day

Faculty have plenty of other responsibilities

[errant ridge]

true

[deep mango]

Teaching, emails, organizing events, being chairs

[errant ridge]

also how's your PhD going ryc?

[deep mango]

I have been to 2 conferences this summer and both were great!

The second one made me really excited about math again

[errant ridge]

oooh what were they about?

[deep mango]

And about working with math people

[errant ridge]

nice!

[deep mango]

The first one was about scientific computing and numerical linear algebra

The second one was about the navier stokes equations

It just ended

[modest rune]

And tropical islands

[deep mango]

It was in hawaii

Now I am still in hawaii

[modest rune]

I have so much to do this month

I’m like

[deep mango]

Well the great thing about the conference was that I didnt want to skip everything to go to the beach

[errant ridge]

Lol does your university take care of the travel costs or do you have to pay out of pocket to go to these conferences?

[modest rune]

Actually feeling stressed

[deep mango]

Which is a good sign

[modest rune]

Which is rare for me

[errant ridge]

if it's the former it'd be sweet!

[deep mango]

They pay partially

So sort of sweet

[errant ridge]

Lol that's good, better than the latter

[deep mango]

But the first conference was a good bit out of pocket. The second one a lot less out of pocket

I turned both into like

Real trips

[errant ridge]

Like mathy vacations!

[deep mango]

So they got a little more expensive, but not by much

Yes

So I'm in hawaii for another week

Today I hiked up this mountain

[errant ridge]

there's still work being done in how to do linear algebra in computers? I thought it was all figured out?

[errant ridge]

damnn

[deep mango]

Oh certainly. Tons

[modest rune]

Pretty sure a paper on the arxiv just claimed to prove a result due to my advisor

Wtf

[errant ridge]

so beautiful!

I gotta get out more

[deep mango]

The work I did was related to optimizing the amount of data movement between ram and cache (or between processors in parallel systems) in order to perform convolutions in neural nets

[modest rune]

What’s the weather like in hawaii rn

[errant ridge]

Like low level programming stuff?

[deep mango]

I proved theoretical results for how good it can get, and my collaborator developed algorithms to meet them

Yeah

[errant ridge]

I see

[deep mango]

My theorems use tools from harmonic analysis and group theory

Which is cool

[errant ridge]

Wow

that's really cool

[deep mango]

Like 75ish and a little humid

[sick kite]

The ryc convolution between neural nets theorem

[errant ridge]

I hope to understand stuff like that sooner rather than later, that sounds super cool

[modest rune]

Nice

[deep mango]

Ill do a talk on it soon

I might go in the ocean again before it gets too dark

[modest rune]

I owe my seminar a talk

[full isle]

british columbia is nice

[deep mango]

The airbnb we're at is a condo in a resort right on the ocean

Which is crazy

[modest rune]

Are you with other ppl?

[deep mango]

Cause it was not expensive

I'm with my mom and brother, they came out after my conference

[errant ridge]

wow 77 is like the perfect temp for me

[modest rune]

Oh nice!

[deep mango]

Yeah its very nice to have people I know really well

Instead of a bunch of people that I dont know and want to write papers with

[errant ridge]

what was the 2nd conference about?

[deep mango]

Tbf the conference had like

Really really great people

[deep mango]

Various aspects of the navier stokes equations

One set of lectures was about long time behavior of fluids

[errant ridge]

ooh

like the solutions not blowing up?

[deep mango]

One set of lectures was about fluids in nonsmooth domains (think like boxes with corners)

[deep mango]

That is one question you can ask about them, yes

Not what anyone at the conference was stupid enough to address

[errant ridge]

[deep mango]

The last set of lectures was about turbulence structures in fluids

I guess the closest to the million dollar question

Anyway that was cool

[errant ridge]

turbulence structures?

[deep mango]

It was about how turbulence manifests as a fractal structure of vortices that align themselves in perpendicular layers around the previous layer

[errant ridge]

[deep mango]

The vortices in the smaller layer compress the larger layer, the larger layer stretches vortices in the lower layer

Eventually the larger layer dissipates and the smaller layer creates its own smaller vortices

Around it

Something something biot savart law

[errant ridge]

wow

[deep mango]

So this model (which is extremely crude but heuristically reasonable) actually lets you derive kolmogorovs' 5/3s law

[errant ridge]

i dont see how the biot savart law comes into this

[deep mango]

Which describes how the energy is distributed among different sizes of vortices in a turbulent fluid

(energy is proportional to wavelength^(-5/3))

[errant ridge]

wavelength of?

[deep mango]

Biot savart law describes how a flow is modified by its vorticity field

[deep mango]

Vortex structures in the fluid

[errant ridge]

oooh

[deep mango]

Yeah its analogous to the electromagnetic law

Its the same thing

Just

Different physical setup

Its cool!

[errant ridge]

people have solved the navier stokes in 2D right? has it been done in higher dimensions than 3 and 4? because I keep seeing this "pattern" in math where like you can do stuff easily in 1 and 2 dimensions and easily in 5 and above dimensions but 3 and 4 dimensions is where stuff gets really hard don't know why like you can find lots of problems like that

by do stuff I mean, solve problems

[vivid halo]

in topology this is because of the h-cobordism theorem and stuff like that

a lot of phenomena like this also have to do with exceptional isomorphisms between different structures that only exist in low dimension or whatever

[deep mango]

Solved in 2d, its not hard there cause the critical space (L^2) is nice

I think it's solved for d > 3 but i dont recall

[errant ridge]

Lol I just used to think "oh d < 3 you can visualize stuff easily and d > 4 you have more freedom to move around things "more dimensions" but in 3D you can't visualize stuff properly neither do you have enough freedom to do stuff" lmao

[neat frost]

Idk man when I’m stressed I make sure to take it out on others. Less weight on me yknow

[deep mango]

That's what I'm saying!

Except I also said that that's adolescent behavior, which I am slowly but surely growing out of

So it all checks out

[neat frost]

What

Are you calling me an adolescent???

[deep mango]

Yes

[neat frost]

Oh

Ouch?

[vivid halo]

[neat frost]

[deep mango]

To be more serious (which I know none of you fucks want) I do think it's perfectly fine to get mad at people for fucking things up carelessly when you hand them the reigns on things, and I still do get mad all the time. The difference comes in with how, when, and to whom you express that anger

Because being directly mad at that person in the moment is almost always going to fuck things up further

So a skill to build here is the "delay mechanism" where I save some angry panic episode up in a little box, like physically localized sorta. And then it gets to spring out when I'm in the right space, or if needed it gets slowly vented from the box

[errant ridge]

I've simply transcended the need for anger

[neat frost]

The issue here is you being reliant on other people

[deep mango]

One who does not rely on others will only see the fruits of his own pithy labor

I am a natural born leader. Not a natural born loner.

But a good leader sometimes follows for the sake of his flock.

[neat frost]

Bull.shit.

How are you a good leader

What have you lead

Other than your life into the drain

Sorry that was mean I just had to take the opportunity

[deep mango]

The drain of excellence

I am a leader on the mathematics discord

[neat frost]

You’re like the mascot for the mods

[deep mango]

I am the mod of the people

[arctic grove]

but u still havent given me trusted

[deep mango]

I do the field research

[arctic grove]

what kind of a ""mod of the people"" are you huh??

[deep mango]

Let me ask the people

Hey people

Is shyshu trustworthy?

[arctic grove]

absolutely!

everyone agrees

see?

no denying this

😌

[deep mango]

Somehow I feel like we need a larger sample size

[arctic grove]

well ok then

[deep mango]

,add_honorable_countdown user:samsyet#6969 time:3 months reason:asked for trusted again

Oh shit wrong channel

[arctic grove]

what does this mean

[toxic schooner]

absolutely!

shyshu is a great and nice person

very trustworthy imho

[errant ridge]

ryc I still can't use stickers

[arctic grove]

neam!

[deep mango]

In My Hideous Opinion

[arctic grove]

am i trustworthy!

[errant ridge]

yess!!

[arctic grove]

honest

See!

[errant ridge]

honest is homeomorphic to hideous

[deep mango]

Yeah now that neamesis said that im not giving him back sticker perms for another few hours

[arctic grove]

wow

[errant ridge]

[arctic grove]

[errant ridge]

no matter! I standby my statements!

[arctic grove]

based!

[deep mango]

[arctic grove]

also what does this even mean

honorable countdown thonkzoom

[errant ridge]

i bet he's trolling, it's not even something real

if it was the wrong channel he would've deleted that immediately

[deep mango]

It's a command related to the helper role. It's boring

[arctic grove]

helper?

thonk

why does it say honorable then

[errant ridge]

okay imma test this

[deep mango]

Oops, I typoed

[neat frost]

Actually, unironically, yes. He’s trustworthy in the way that 6 year olds are. They’re too young and innocent to have any malicious intent

[arctic grove]

i wanna be angry at that
But thank u slurp

[neat frost]

Wewcome

[errant ridge]

be in a superposition of anger and being grateful

[arctic grove]

that i am

[errant ridge]

I can now use stickersss!!!!111!111!1!!11!11!!!!1!!

best alg book!

let's go!

stickers for everyone!

lol okay i'll stop

[simple raven]

It's a lot
Try doing 4 hours a day, everyday

[errant ridge]

I guess? lol I can't really see it as being a lot

maybe I just haven't done a lot of math

[arctic grove]

coz we havent done a lot yet

[errant ridge]

[arctic grove]

we are quite literally at the start, so ofc 4 seems normal

[errant ridge]

[arctic grove]

[lunar spear]

https://metro-co-uk.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/metro.co.uk/2021/11/01/online-trolls-to-be-jailed-if-they-cause-psychological-harm-15523621/amp/?amp_gsa=1&amp_js_v=a9&usqp=mq331AQKKAFQArABIIACAw%3D%3D#amp_tf=Lähde%3A %251%24s&aoh=16596101956987&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fmetro.co.uk%2F2021%2F11%2F01%2Fonline-trolls-to-be-jailed-if-they-cause-psychological-harm-15523621%2F

the fuck

oh yeah are links allowed

[errant ridge]

Lmaoooo what???

[maiden bear]

[lunar spear]

see you in like

10 years

[errant ridge]

https://tenor.com/view/traffic-fbi-open-up-raid-gif-13450966

[charred mortar]

4 hours of serious math is a lot

[peak oak]

i found a question "what are some ugly maths formulae" and saw ramanujan's 2 formulae approximating π
the numbers look ugly asf indeed but it's so true though
ugly but beautiful

[charred mortar]

This holds true for doing most things “seriously” tbh

E.g. I’ll also feel utterly exhausted if I do 4 hours of seriously playing piano

And basically call it a day then

[maiden bear]

a 4 hours concentrated and productive maths session is a lot

[peak oak]

looking at the numbers makes me feel like "wow this thing is true"
because if it's not true no one's gonna use these numbers lmao

[peak oak]

agreed

[maiden bear]

You'd be surprised what you can achieve in that time if you actually sit down, block out all external distractions like your phone, other tabs etc

I don't recommend 4 hours without a break in between tho

[charred mortar]

Yeah

[maiden bear]

i do at most 2 hours and then take a 15-20 min walk outside with some music

Another thing i like is active breaks

[peak oak]

yes exactly i tried that last time
maybe a bit more/less than 4hr
it felt really good and made me surprised that i could do so many maths

[maiden bear]

Like in terms of not spending the breaks you take scrolling on social media or something

[peak oak]

yea i always have a break, go outside and touch grass after doing maths for like 2 hrs

actually it works for anything, goes same with studying/reading books/playing piano/etc

[crystal stream]

simple pendulum getting wacked by a hammer

now I want to see if I can learn how to use this ODE library and do the real pendulum

[bright hill]

uh

wow

what uh...

what a pun you got there

[burnt basin]

anyone else struggle with self study cuz they just try to move on to new shit asap rather than working through lots of problems

[errant ridge]

no

you just need to develop discipline

[simple raven]

Yeah totally
Tbh I hate problems, I prefer to read and think about every details about what I just read

So I've never really done problems on my own

Only in class when I had to

[burnt basin]

i do a few but never enough to be able to quickly and confidently get the solutions

[simple raven]

And discipline is not working
Just do whatever you like
And find joy in it

There are a lot of way to do math

[ancient flame]

when spotify fucks up

[lunar spear]

tiiäks miltse kuuluu tuntuu painaa kaasuu 500 hevosta ravaa alla

[worthy apex]

how important do you guys think are grades in undergraduate for testing mathematical ability?

or rather do you think grades in exams correlate with mathematical success later on?

[modest rune]

I think that good mathematicians have issues / life gets in the way / make mistakes but that overall if your grades are suffering in math classes you probably have something you need to work on

Like, sometimes getting one B can tank grad applications to certain schools, which I think is probably unfortunate. But if you are getting a B average, you might have some deficiencies to work on, if that makes sense

[primal crater]

convert them to ascii and see what's written

[ancient flame]

"playlist" lol

[worthy apex]

I see your point but I don't think exams are a good way to actually measure people's understanding of something. Many exams involve at some point a calculation which I certainly wouldn't do by hand outside of exams. But yeah, there probably is pretty high correlation between who finishes their PhDs and who is good in undergraduate

Ah yes good english

Doesn't matter I think one can understand what I was trying to say

[crystal topaz]

How can I smile at evil things? How can I smile at people calling evil things good? How can I smile at people calling good things evil? How? How?

[old fox]

you just do?

what kinds of evil things?

what some people might think of as evil is probably not evil to the other person

[ancient flame]

by being based

[crystal topaz]

Based on idiocy

[ancient flame]

lol

[crystal topaz]

I mean there is definitive evil and definitive good. There’s somehow people who call evil stuff good

Hypocrites exist in many places and many who disguise themselves as good but are ravenous wolves

[ancient flame]

when someone tags the bot for help

[solid snow]

@quasi jetty hang in there man

[wild lantern]

@ moderators HELP ME WITH MY ALGEBRA IT IS DUE IN TEN MINUTES AND I HAVE NEVER GONE TO CLASS PLS I NEED A GOOD GRADE PLS PLS HELP

[odd narwhal]

The answer is 7

[wild lantern]

This is the part where they'd get really mad at you probably

But my impression of that is not as good

[ancient flame]

bro im tutoring this kid rn

and part of the question is 23*3

[lunar spear]

PAY ME

[ancient flame]

so im like "what's 23*3"

then I realize

so I mentally prepare before she says "69"

[lunar spear]

oh no we have a mod in chat

[leaden torrent]

get off discord

[lunar spear]

imma get banned

[ancient flame]

I would have burst out laughing if I didn't prepare myself

[ancient flame]

it's online tutoring, im not in her room rn dw

[lunar spear]

you like 36

[ancient flame]

wut

[odd narwhal]

You should still be focusing on what you're paid for

[lunar spear]

I can tutor

how much do it pay

[solid snow]

whatever you charge for it

and whether someone's willing to pay that

[lunar spear]

Ight Im tutoring for 1000 a year

lessons like once a week

[ancient flame]

both of my students are chillin rn

they know what they're doing

[lunar spear]

must be easy

[ancient flame]

I just pop in to make sure they're still on track

sometimes it gets a bit hectic

[solid snow]

thats like 19 bucks a week man

[lunar spear]

bruv

[ancient flame]

this pays me 12.25/hour

[lunar spear]

Im broke

19 bucks is good enuf

[solid snow]

a week though

[lunar spear]

they pay for what they get

and its not much

[solid snow]

[crystal topaz]

Ik someone who gets paid $100 for each test he does for someone else

[ancient flame]

bruh

[crystal topaz]

I think he told me he makes something like $1800 a month

[crystal stream]

i've never heard of this convergence test

[crystal topaz]

Лол

[languid anchor]

russian language, heh

[crystal topaz]

Mdr

[neat lintel]

Death of laughter

[crystal topaz]

Frenchie

[lunar spear]

xaxaxa

[prime plover]

Has anyone ever gone through all those Einstein quotes and verified which ones he actually said

The one about explaining stuff to 5 year olds annoys the hell out of me.

[lunar spear]

no

most are fake

for sure

[crystal topaz]

Never heard

[vivid halo]

yeah that quote is utterly stupid

[frail lagoon]

Oh the like if you can't explain it to a 5 year old you don't understand it one?

I've never heard that attributed to him tbf

[vivid halo]

I'm pretty sure this is falsely attributed to him

or if he did really say it, well he was wrong about some things lol

[crystal topaz]

If Einstein didn’t make the quote I could still somewhat agree with it

But the way I think the quote would be true is if you can’t teach what you know in basic terms

[vivid halo]

yeah I mean there are clear limitations to the quote

[crystal topaz]

Then you don’t know the subject that way

I mean ya but general simplification shouldn’t be too difficult

[charred mortar]

I’ve also heard the five year old quote attributed to feynman

[vivid halo]

that too

okay but then you're not teaching the same thing anymore

[crystal topaz]

What did the physicist tell his son when he was growing up

[vivid halo]

like you can dumb things down beyond recognition but then you're not actually conveying the same understanding

[crystal topaz]

“You are becoming quite a feynman”

Ok that was a bad joke

[charred mortar]

Damn there are a ton of quotes misattributed to Einstein

[pure sun]

“What are you talking about? I totally said all those things.”

-Albert Einstein

[solid snow]

“How do I delete a tweet”

-Albert Einstein

[odd narwhal]

He was wrong about a lot of things

[vivid halo]

tfw completely wrong about cosmological constant and spooky action at a distance

[odd narwhal]

There's this tendecy to also think that just because a person is talented in their field they're automatically filled with wisdom

[charred mortar]

Not to mention many of the greats were also shitty people

[bright hill]

aggressively glaring at newton

[crystal stream]

feynman's favorite trick is getting undergrads to sleep with him

[tender tulip]

Can we view normal extensions through category theory WITHOUT automorphisms

[bronze pelican]

https://tenor.com/view/breaking-bad-funny-wtf-wth-jesse-gif-17336046

[lunar spear]

tbf I didnt notice that weird ass head the first time I watched el camino

[tender tulip]

via properties of homomorphisms (likely from the base field poly ring)

[ancient flame]

weird
#help-30 was used today but #help-31 was last used in JUNE

that's p crazy

[honest veldt]

how do the help channels work, why are there so many unused hidden ones

Do they start up again when the active channels all get used up?

[ancient flame]

well there are the ones that are occupied plus 3-5 available (I think the exact number depends on how many channels are occupied since it makes sense that if there are a lot of channels occupied, a lot of people want to open channels) and then the ones that are hidden to save space

if an available channel becomes occupied, a hidden channel takes its spot, and it seems to be in numerical order, so the hidden channel with the lowest number is next to be on the available list

[honest veldt]

I seee gotcha gotcha gotcha

thank you gmoney

[ancient flame]

g💸

[ancient flame]

(gotcha)^3

[arctic grove]

[trim oar]

$2+2$

[fathom swallow]

Hallow

[trim oar]

What's the point of this

$(3+45)(3-45)$

[fathom swallow]

Hallow

[trim oar]

$(3+4)^2$

[fathom swallow]

Hallow

[trim oar]

eh

[lunar spear]

what

[brave wraith]

wait what

you mean 3^2 - 45^2 ? @trim oar

$a^2 - b^2 = (a + b)(a - b)$

[fathom swallow]

MarveI

[cyan goblet]

what are dorm room essentials, like things you could not live without and/or make like 10x easier

[errant ridge]

a gaming PC for running computational fluid dynamics

and noodles

that's it really

[brave wraith]

toilet paper

or just tissue

[neat frost]

Didn’t we go over this

I had some amazing suggestions iirc

[cyan goblet]

i forgot

[neat frost]

So did I

Uh oh

I think some were like extension cords and those things you plug in sockets so you can charge multiple things

[cyan goblet]

oh yeee

[ancient flame]

yeah with me lol

[ancient flame]

that would be awesome if my FUCKING SCHOOL LET US BRING EXTENSION CORDS WITH MULTIPLE OUTLETS

[tight comet]

Cleaning supplies. And the will to clean your room.

[bright hill]

you're already in uni, gmod?

[ancient flame]

no

16 days!!!

[bright hill]

nice

I wonder how roommate's gonna be like

please, o God, all mighty

please, I implore you

not someone religious

[ancient flame]

wait are you going too?

[bright hill]

yeah

[ancient flame]

nice

[ancient flame]

this is why I chose my roommate

[bright hill]

I got no clue when doe

[ancient flame]

oh tf

[bright hill]

YOU CAN CHOSE YOUR ROOMMATE??

I mean

[ancient flame]

in the US you can

[bright hill]

not that that would make a difference ig

[ancient flame]

you're in india right

[bright hill]

I know no one going there haha

[ancient flame]

oh damn

[bright hill]

bruh wat

[ancient flame]

or am I confusing you with others

[neat frost]

Why don’t they

[bright hill]

I wonder why people think I'm from india

[ancient flame]

sAfEtY hAzArD

[bright hill]

you're like the 3rd person

[neat frost]

It’s gonna be me

I’m super religious btw

[ancient flame]

extension cords with only one outlet are allowed

[neat frost]

Imma convert you

[ancient flame]

there are some exceptions and whatnot

[bright hill]

I don't believe that for a second

[neat frost]

Sounds like your school hella lame moddy

[ancient flame]

lol

nah its whatever

[neat frost]

Fuck you

[tight comet]

It makes a huge difference

[neat frost]

I don’t have a dorm

[ancient flame]

no he meant for him personally since he didnt know anyone anyway

[ancient flame]

apartment???

[bright hill]

in my books, that's a compliment

[tight comet]

RIP

[neat frost]

Nope

[ancient flame]

or living at home

[neat frost]

Yes

[ancient flame]

ahhh

[bright hill]

in my experience non religious people are more fun

[ancient flame]

smart

oof

[neat frost]

I’m not outta hs yet ;-;

[ancient flame]

dw its fine darq

[neat frost]

[ancient flame]

rip slorpy

[neat frost]

Hell yeah partay time

[ancient flame]

im sure there will be things about your roommate that will suck but hey

[neat frost]

And after I graduate I’m still not getting a dorm

[ancient flame]

its the experience

[neat frost]

Since uni is like an hour away in traffic

[ancient flame]

oh tf

you're gonna always be driving an hour???

[bright hill]

you're getting drafter :wheeze:

[neat frost]

I already do

Well

It’s an hour away in traffic on a bus

[ancient flame]

WTF

oh

ok

[neat frost]

I don’t drive

[ancient flame]

lol

[neat frost]

Save the environment

And I’m too scared to drive

[ancient flame]

fuck the environment

jk

[neat frost]

Yes

[bright hill]

fuck cars

[ancient flame]

I don't drive bc my parents are cheap ;-;

[neat frost]

But yeah the commute to uni sucks ass

[ancient flame]

oh well I won't need a car much in college anyway

[neat frost]

Though it’s okay if I’m going from school to uni

[ancient flame]

I can walk or bike to most of my classes

[neat frost]

Since I’m already outside

[ancient flame]

and the public bus system is FREE

[bright hill]

I don't drive -> parents are cheap

first world logic right there

[neat frost]

Omg biking moddy hella hot

[ancient flame]

oh

[neat frost]

Parents are cheap -> I don’t drive

DarQ

Get your logic right

[ancient flame]

yes

[neat frost]

They’ve cheapened it or something here

[pliant nacelle]

where do u live

[neat frost]

Wait a sec is cheapened a word???

[ancient flame]

...

it will be at my college

[neat frost]

Omg it is

[ancient flame]

since my college is in a college town

[neat frost]

Moddy lives in all of our walls

[ancient flame]

the entire town is basically the school

[neat frost]

What uni moddy?

[ancient flame]

of course lol

you're bri'ish so you won't know

[neat frost]

I didn’t know cheapen was a word

[ancient flame]

university of florida

[neat frost]

IM NOT BRITISH

[neat frost]

Omg

[bright hill]

do you got all our nationalities incorrectly? lol

[ancient flame]

wait I thought slorpy was bri'ish

[pliant nacelle]

public transport is free in florida?

[bright hill]

is that good?

I can't tell

[ancient flame]

I guess it was just wew

[neat frost]

In a years time moddy will be wearing flip flops with cargo shorts and a golf shirt, while chugging beer and swimming with crocodiles

[ancient flame]

in gainesville

[neat frost]

And wearing crocs

[ancient flame]

just in that town

[ancient flame]

alligators*

[neat frost]

We’ve been over this so many times

[ancient flame]

lol

my school's mascot is the gators

[bright hill]

wearing crocs over flip flops?

[neat frost]

Swimming with crocs in crocs sounds better tho

[bright hill]

or flip flops over crocs?

[neat frost]

Oh

[ancient flame]

lol

gg

[neat frost]

I forgot I already said his footwear

[alpine kindle]

yeah you're italian

[neat frost]

He wears both DarQ

Different days

[ancient flame]

I will be a business student living with a biomedical engineering student

[neat frost]

Mama Mia!

[ancient flame]

oh shit rly

[neat frost]

but you’re such a stem dude

[ancient flame]

ikik

but I like business too

[neat frost]

Yesa mama pastaria! Pizza pizza pizza!

[ancient flame]

and it can make me successful

engineering sounds so stressful

[neat frost]

Booooo

My friend is gonna do eggineering

[bright hill]

you mean you like money

[ancient flame]

I could do a business major and engineering minor and have access to so many jobs

[neat frost]

I too like money fwiw

[ancient flame]

I find interest in business concepts and stuff like that

[neat frost]

Or be math+CS major

[ancient flame]

no

[neat frost]

Business majors are hella boring ngl

[bright hill]

cogs in the wheels of capitalism

[ancient flame]

cool!!!

[bright hill]

smh

[ancient flame]

I can do math on the side

[bright hill]

so disappointing

[neat frost]

Capitalism fucking rocks if you don’t get fucked by it

[ancient flame]

^^^

so why not be on top of the game???

[neat frost]

You just gotta be born into the right circumstances DarQ

[ancient flame]

I can enslave everyone below me

[neat frost]

Yesss

I’ll be your slave….

[ancient flame]

everyone else suffers while I take their money

[neat frost]

🥹

[ancient flame]

let's uhhh not go there

[neat frost]

[ancient flame]

anyway I gotta eat breakfast

[neat frost]

Rejected

[ancient flame]

see y'all

LOL

[neat frost]

I gotta shower

Bon appetit!

[fallen matrix]

@everyone what's happening?

[bright hill]

was that really worth pinging 90k people?

[fallen matrix]

I don't know about this server

[neat frost]

Omg that’s what I was pinged for????

Wtf dude

[fallen matrix]

I am new here

[neat frost]

Do you always ping everyone on all your servers???

[fallen matrix]

No

[neat frost]

I’m just kidding, they obviously disabled pinging everyone

[fallen matrix]

I was scared

Good night

Bye

[neat frost]

sorry lol

Goodnight

[tawdry falcon]

Hey! Is there any Russian? I need help to translate some (small) chunks of text from Mendeleev's first periodic tables, I'm curious to see what is written there

(I have some images)

[reef carbon]

how big/small are we talking

[tawdry falcon]

About 4 sentences in total

[reef carbon]

hit me

[reef carbon]

EXPERIMENT ON THE SYSTEM OF ELEMENTS

BASED ON THEIR ATOMIC WEIGHT AND CHEMICAL SIMILARITY

Table II

Mendeleev's second attempt to find a natural system of chemical elements. Reprinted without name from Journal of the Russian Chemical Society, vol. III, p. 31 (1871).

[tawdry falcon]

Thanks @reef carbon! You are the best

[neat frost]

Fun fact, I’m actually the best.

[tawdry falcon]

Mh? What did you translate?

[neat frost]

All my lectures

[tawdry falcon]

Oh that's impressive

[neat frost]

Like I said, im the best

[arctic grove]

In ur dreams toddler

[neat frost]

Go study for JEE lol

[arctic grove]

I am studying

git fucked

[neat frost]

I’m studying
is on discord

[neat frost]

I swear if this post also gets highlighted I will go BANANAS

No more reacts

Stop it

[arctic grove]

u pinged me bitch

[neat frost]

When

[arctic grove]

ok.

[neat frost]

Don’t do it

[neat frost]

Good you didn’t do it

I pinged you after you posted on discord

[arctic grove]

so what

u pinged me

thats why i came back

[rose dock]

lol

[sleek wing]

oh my god be QUIETTTT

[arctic grove]

exactly slurp

stfu smh

[neat frost]

But you posted in the first place, and therefore we’re not studying well for the JEE

[sleek wing]

you and all

[neat frost]

Pathetic disappointment

Wew shut up

[sleek wing]

silence, child

[neat frost]

Hush, stupid blond brit

[tall badge]

#chill

[neat frost]

The mods choose to do their jobs at the WORST times

[tall badge]

u know this doesnt belong here

[frail lagoon]

Okay

[neat frost]

Yeah sorry rokketo

[bright hill]

if my lectures aren't in english I won't be attending lectures

[neat frost]

Lol

Okay

[bright hill]

learning in any language except for english is dumb

[neat lintel]

learning any math except for applied math is dumb

[neat lintel]

JEE math!!!!

[arctic grove]

[dusty portal]

I'm going to grade 11th, what I should know? For what I should prepare?

[neat lintel]

Algebra and Trigonometry and Geometry. This should be enough.

[arctic grove]

basics of algebra and geometry would be nice

[bright hill]

@arctic grove @sleek wing don't sully me, that's a valid point!

[dusty portal]

Thank you!

[arctic grove]

not at all

[bright hill]

the amount of resources available in english for literally everything vs any other language is insane

[arctic grove]

that doesnt mean learning in any other language isnt a good thing

[bright hill]

the only reason to learn something in a language other than english is because you don't know english

[arctic grove]

[sleek wing]

which is a valid reason...........................

[bright hill]

but it doesn't apply for me

nor slurp

[arctic grove]

i dont know english

does it apply to me too?

[lunar spear]

what

[deep mango]

[bright hill]

I don't know english
have never heard him speak a language other than english

[arctic grove]

lol

[arctic grove]

u have never heard me at all!

i think

also

ये लो, हम हिंदी मे वार्तालाप कर रहे है, खुश?

[bright hill]

yes

[arctic grove]

Lol

so u see

i dont actually know english

i have no fucking clue what all of u are saying

i just use google translate

very efficiently

[deep mango]

Ok but...

Oops wrong reply

[arctic grove]

?

[deep mango]

Ok but I have...

And shyshu is a talented english orator!

In fact I believe he has a side job in english radio!

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

i dont

sadly

[neat lintel]

Lmfao

हा हा हा

[lunar spear]

Lol we busted some guys who stole a bike and a rollator

3 of them are missing

[neat lintel]

[lunar spear]

Yeah we found one hiding in a bush

The cops were pretty stupid ngl

[ripe wasp]

guys wanna see the cayley graph i drew for $G=\langle a,b,c: a^3= b^2=c^2=e, ab=ba, abc=cb^{-1}a^{-1}\rangle$

[fathom swallow]

sean

[ripe wasp]

it's isomorphic to D_6

that's it

just wanted to share 2 hours worth of work lol

[toxic gale]

I have not the least clue about graphs but that's a mighty fine graph. 👌

[open aspen]

very nice! that's a beautiful diagram

[bronze pelican]

No one cases

[storm sage]

that's so cool!!

[errant ridge]

[arctic grove]

[errant ridge]

what does it say?

also in csgo when I get teamed up with people from north india, and when I tell them im indian they're like "do you know hindi" like bro what? that's not the only language in india

[tight comet]

1 in 2 speak it I think so those are some odds

[errant ridge]

I think it's like 42% or 40%

[arctic grove]

"see? i am conversing in hindi, happy now?"

[errant ridge]

Lmao

teach me hindi

[arctic grove]

lol

no

first study

[errant ridge]

I know like a few words but I've mostly forgotten what individual letters sound like

[arctic grove]

for advanced

smh

[arctic grove]

i can teach on vc

[errant ridge]

Lol yea after it, teach me hindi

[arctic grove]

but not now

lol

[errant ridge]

lol yea ok

I wish jee had abstract algebra problems

[arctic grove]

i dont wish that

at all

[errant ridge]

I wish jee didn't exist

[arctic grove]

based

[errant ridge]

also I think new members need to be in the server for like a set amount of times before they get sticker perms

I keep leaving and joining so I'm always a new member

shyshu you need to become a mod and give me permanent sticker perms

lmao

[arctic grove]

[arctic grove]

dont do that

smh

[arctic grove]

great reason to be a mod!

u hearing this mods?

[errant ridge]

[errant ridge]

I need to, or else I waste too much time in the server talking

[arctic grove]

[errant ridge]

so that's the easiest solution

leave the server + log out of discord

slowly finding a solution to my procrastination

[arctic grove]

genius

[modest dagger]

same

[sleek wing]

use the studying role

[pale cedar]

I noticed something about a word in hindi.

In the word 'Vyakti (individual)' there's a word called vyakt which means to express, so vyakti in english kinda means Expression, but I might as well be wrong.

[pale cedar]

Literally me, even in IRL LMAO.

[errant ridge]

it's easy to just to just remove the study role

Like

it takes almost no effort at all

but logging in and joining the math server?

that takes more effort

I'm trying to increase the amount of effort i need if I wanna waste my time and decrease the amount of effort it takes me to do useful things

[sleek wing]

fairs

[errant ridge]

wew

you're a grad student right?

[surreal sapphire]

there is a permastudying role that has the same effect but you cant remove it yourself @errant ridge

[errant ridge]

what would it take to remove?

[surreal sapphire]

everything

[errant ridge]

lmao what?

[brittle socket]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-infinity-war-everything-avengers-gif-14066494

[surreal sapphire]

a merciful moderator

or the set time expiring

[errant ridge]

but there is no such role!

[surreal sapphire]

,whohas perma

[fathom swallow]

Members in perma-studying!
==========================
1.   james_ash#2490
2.   Ultraproduct#1631
3.   tüm#0752
4.   Neko#9414
5.   skischooldropout#5167
6.   0xj4yZ#0686
7.   nitezba#9923```

[surreal sapphire]

clearly there is

[errant ridge]

do I have to go to bots and type in a command to get it?

[surreal sapphire]

you ask me

or a moderator/modmail

[errant ridge]

oh okay

well

hm

alright give me the perma study role for

uhm

1 hour