serious-discussion

[ancient flame]

bruh

[neat frost]

Bruh

[deep mango]

Not good. Not good at all.

Actually I'm doing great

[ancient flame]

bruh

[deep mango]

Cause big brother was fucking iconic today

Like

Best day of feeds in years

Of bbus at least

[ancient flame]

oh

[deep mango]

But I was in stupid math activities

So i could not watch it

I just followed on twitter

[wooden flax]

big brother

such a ryc thing to watch

[deep mango]

Its so good

Like

[summer sandal]

Invictus and ryu have the same profile pic.

[deep mango]

Today was absolutely amazing

Did you just call me ryu

Are you

[wooden flax]

ryu

[deep mango]

Plegasus

[wooden flax]

ryc+nyu

[deep mango]

[summer sandal]

Sorry?

[deep mango]

[summer sandal]

Oh maybe

[deep mango]

Fascinating reply

[wooden flax]

this is more like rycs pfp

ooh actually this one

almost exactly like the pfp

[deep mango]

So true

My pfp is changing soon

[wooden flax]

:(

red panda > pigeons

[fervent pebble]

BACK TO BIRDIE?

[deep mango]

Yeah

[fervent pebble]

YESSS

THE RETURN OF PIGEON BOY

[deep mango]

Ryc is not longer in shambles

I am becoming the best version of myself again

[fervent pebble]

LETS GO

pigeon ryc 🦾

[ancient flame]

BIRDIE

[fervent pebble]

say moddy did u ever end up finishing that proof

[deep mango]

WTF

[summer sandal]

I switched to my main account.

[deep mango]

Mindfuck

Well I'm happy to see you

Hope your summer is going well

[summer sandal]

Going well, I start class soon

In 3 weeks.

In a new college

[deep mango]

Ah, any interesting classes?

Cool

[summer sandal]

Boring CS stuff.

More Database courses.

[deep mango]

It is done

[summer sandal]

God I am so happy right now.

[deep mango]

Lol

[summer sandal]

Smiling for no reason.

[deep mango]

That's great

I've been doing a lot more of that this week

[summer sandal]

What you been up too?

[deep mango]

Oh god

Just

Crazy

I went to switzerland and italy for a conference

For 2 weeks

[summer sandal]

For math?

[deep mango]

And then I came home for a week and had to move out of my apartment

And now I am in hawaii for 3 weeks

For another conference

[summer sandal]

damn you going every where.

[deep mango]

Yeah the first conference was about numerical linear algebra and scientific computing

We presented a talk there and published a paper in their proceedings

[summer sandal]

Nice I hope you had fun.

[deep mango]

At this conference in hawaii im just attending, it's more for grad students

I'm giving a short talk tomorrow though

The same one

[summer sandal]

Are you almost done with your phd?

[deep mango]

Lol

I just finished my first year of 5 years

[summer sandal]

Wait your first year right? Yeah

[deep mango]

So definitely not

[summer sandal]

I remember you saying that.

[deep mango]

But i was feeling very down about math for a few months and now i am feeling a lot better about it

So thats good

[summer sandal]

I burned my self out with math.

[deep mango]

Yeah. I feel that

[summer sandal]

I am slowing stuff down.

[deep mango]

Sounds like a good plan

[summer sandal]

Studying one thing at a time now.

[vivid halo]

today I learned about the Nyquist-Shannon sampling theorem

[deep mango]

Ugh that is such a great theorem

[vivid halo]

right??

[deep mango]

It's like

[ancient flame]

today I learned about null space

[summer sandal]

sounds fancy, care to explain!

[ancient flame]

im so advanced

[deep mango]

Such a mindfuck

Null space is good!

[ancient flame]

lmao

ryc trying to be supportive of my puny knowledge

this is why ur cute

[deep mango]

Basically it says that you can reconstruct a function from sample values at a countable number of points using fourier analysis, if the function passes some conditions (like being in L^2 or something)

[ancient flame]

woah

[vivid halo]

in real world terms it's how we store and recover analog audio digitally

[summer sandal]

Hmm that sounds interesting, my mind went to straight to Lagrange interpolation when you said that but that is completely different.

[vivid halo]

audio is usually recorded at 44khz which means you can reconstruct up to 22khz bandlimited data

[fervent pebble]

modddy answer me

[ancient flame]

what

[summer sandal]

I have future courses on that, I can’t wait.

[ancient flame]

:o

[fervent pebble]

.

[ancient flame]

ohhhh

no lol

ive been kinda busy and don't care enough about it

[fervent pebble]

based

[ancient flame]

how are spam/scam channels (with 210,000 videos in 2 weeks) like this even allowed on youtube

[void holly]

💀

[fringe needle]

It’s not so different, it also corresponds to an interpolation problem

But yeah nyquist Shannon is op

[bright hill]

Bruhhhhh

Why didn't you say anything??

I thought you were just another none

[bright hill]

What changed, in your opinion?

[surreal sapphire]

i would expect this is against TOS

[undone stratus]

thx

[neat frost]

When talk discord math

[bright hill]

Ngl, the panda pfp was more aesthetic

[neat lintel]

i agree

[neat lintel]

i reed ryc as ryuk

read and read is so ambigious

we should start writing read as reed

lou reed

[maiden loom]

read and read

[bright locust]

It’s abuse

[neat lintel]

Openglobe is right

Openglobe is an amazing person with sensibility to understand this sort of situations

[ancient flame]

yeah but the fact that posting roughly 10 videos per minute for 2 weeks isn't being investigated is absurd, im sure this channel has received dozens or even hundreds of reports

[ancient flame]

yeah

yup

they're becoming increasingly common

absolutely disgusting

[leaden torrent]

learn to use a radical dictionary

anyway, that kanji is 捨, and the full verb 捨てる means "to throw away; to discard"

so yes

not quite "throw" but close enough

(could also mean "to give up; to abandon")

(but obviously doesnt mean that here)

radical dictionaries work by stroke counts

lets say i want to find this kanji, 捨

i'd open jisho's radical menu

lets start with the radical on the left

this consists of 3 strokes

so i look in the 3 section

and select it

now i can look at the rest of the 捨

if youre unfamiliar with radicals, it might not be clear whether the "right side" of this kanji is 1 or 2 radicals

it's 2, but you can try 1 first

it has 7 strokes

so look for it in the 7 stroke section

you wont find it

so then you figure it must be (at least) 2 radicals

the most "obvious" distinguishing radical is the radical for mouth, which has 3 strokes

so we select it as well

(theres a similar one to the right of this one, but that's for when it's used as a box - you can tell the difference if you look at the kanji bar on the top after selection)

anyway, from here we can just look through the list on the top

oh wow i cant count, it had 8 strokes, not 7

whatever same diff

anyway you'll find the kanji in the 11 section

but if you still cant find it, you can keep inserting radicals

inputting all 4 radicals specifies the kanji uniquely

it's a very useful tool, worth learning

also lets you find absolutely stupid shit

like 壑

apparently it means "valley" but holy shit i would not want to actually use this outside of maybe given names

its not even accepted for given names lmao

terrible

[sleek wing]

looks cool tho

[leaden torrent]

strong disagree

it looks so asymmetrical

props to kanjidic for actually bothering to make a stroke order though

im sure theyre computer generated to some extent but

still

[subtle sedge]

are u chinese

[leaden torrent]

this is japanese, but in either case the answer is "no".

[subtle sedge]

日本语来自于汉字

学习汉字吧

[leaden torrent]

i cant read that

but its something like

"japanese comes from hanzi;
learn ???? hanzi"

[subtle sedge]

中文

[leaden torrent]

uh its 来 "to come", a pretty important one lmao

like one of the most common kanji

just the ku part

but yes

(also has other readings)

[subtle sedge]

中文更为实用

使用它的人数也非常多

[leaden torrent]

i'm not really concerned with practicality

i am a gigaweeb

i cant guess at that last line at all

its chinese so

not really lmao

as kanji that would be read as "use other-like person-amount quantity emergency many"

which is uh

not exactly a valid anything

[subtle sedge]

jap learned chinese

[leaden torrent]

maybe dont use that word

presumably its saying something like "it's also used by many people"

not sure what the 非常 stuff is doing, presumably a grammatical function

i am completely unfamiliar with chinese

i should learn at least the basics at some point

learning hanzi is like, most of the difficulty, and my kanji drills are at least a start at that

[subtle sedge]

its ok

[leaden torrent]

though obviously i'll have to relearn pronunciation and stuff

[onyx idol]

If you force a dog into a situation that you hold common sense how do dogs learn that

Like walking on a treadmill without their legs being decapitated

[spiral flicker]

In the case of a treadmill, I think that they don't like their paws moving without their say so. So when the treadmill starts moving, they naturally place their foot froward to put it back. Eventually they make the link that they're now walking/running.

Cats on the other hand will just move back to the spot where they were and lay back down lol

[molten viper]

Any uni grads that failed courses?

[prime plover]

what does it mean when math person says something is "morally true"?

[neat lintel]

it means they think it should be true but haven't proved it i think

[surreal sapphire]

its also often used to refer to informal or at least not completely rigorous arguments

"morality" in mathematics is subjective and refers to "the right way to think about something"

[broken arch]

I use it to mean "in essence"

I'll often say "these two things are morally the same"

it means that the idea behind those two things is the same

It's a way of talking about the underlying ideas, setting aside the precise formal formulations for a second

[ancient flame]

did this guy try to scam me or smth?

[pure sun]

i mean he hasnt tried anything

maybe he was trying to scam you

[ancient flame]

but like if I continued

yeah

[pure sun]

or is some kind of recruiter or something

[ancient flame]

could be

just odd

[bright hill]

I had someone swearing at me on the phone to return his money

[storm sage]

they are trying to scam you

[bright locust]

Yes

[storm sage]

there are many "wrong number" scams

[ancient flame]

ha knew it

glad I backed off when I did

[storm sage]

where they try to gain your confidence and then get you to send money

[ancient flame]

thats what I was thinking

it's how the police get criminals to confess

psychology

[sleek wing]

Don’t worry DJ Greer you handled the situation well

[ancient flame]

LOL

[storm sage]

here are the translations if you're still curious:
日本语(japanese) 来(comes) 自于(from) 汉字(hanzi)
Japanese comes from Hanzi.
学习(learn) 汉字(hanzi) 吧(particle, conveys that the sentence is a suggestion)
You should learn Hanzi.
中文(chinese) 更(more) 为实用(useful)
Chinese is more useful.
使用(use) 它(it) 的(who) 人(people) 数(number) 也(also) 非常(very) 多(big)
The number of people who use it is also very large.

[ancient flame]

thank you eric, very cool

[sleek wing]

It is very cool aktually

[leaden torrent]

非常 is "very"? bizarre

in kanji it's read as "emergency"

[storm sage]

feichang = exceptionally

probably translated to emergency

fei means not, and chang means normal

[leaden torrent]

ah i guess it does have an alternate reading as "extreme; remarkable; severe"

but i havent really encountered that reading before

i'd normally assume the "emergency" reading came first

[storm sage]

非常 is very common in chinese haha

[leaden torrent]

since typically meanings go from more specific concepts to more general metaphorical ones

[storm sage]

“非常”非常常用

[leaden torrent]

interesting

非常口 is one of the first "uncommon" terms japanese learners learn lmao

it means "emergency exit"

[storm sage]

what does that mean

ah..

[leaden torrent]

so it shows up on signage and stuff

(though the classic english EXIT signs appear too)

[storm sage]

okay that makes sense, a chinese person could probably understand that but think it exceptionally formal

[leaden torrent]

anyway this is interesting

非常に is a common word fwiw, it means "very"

so i guess i shouldve figured out the connection

but still

[storm sage]

ah I see

[leaden torrent]

now i wonder if 非常識 "hijoushiki" has a chinese equivalent

[storm sage]

that's interesting

what does that mean

[leaden torrent]

非常識 means "irrational; lacking common sense"

it never really made sense to me as none of the individual kanji imply that meaning

[storm sage]

oh okay I think it's the same in chinese

fei = not, chang = common, shi = sense

[leaden torrent]

that'd make sense then

alright yeah

識 "shiki" is a somewhat unusual noun in japanese, my dictionary translates it as "acquaintanceship" but that doesnt feel quite right

it also has a buddhist meaning of "vijnana", which presumably stems from that "sense" meaning

since vijnana is the ability to consciously discern or something like that

(a lot of hanzi-that-arent-super-common-in-japanese have alternate meanings/readings in buddhist contexts because the linguistics of japanese buddhism is very weird)

(they straight up take chants written in chinese and read out the hanzi as though they were on'yomi kanji)

(naturally this produces total gibberish)

(it is hilarious)

anyway this results in a lot of japanese buddhism developing its own sort of jargon

its pretty culturally interesting

南無妙法蓮華経 is a fairly famous such phrase

i am not sure if it makes sense as a chinese phrase, but in japanese it would be read (somewhat ungrammatically) as "amen, mystic law of the lotus sutra"

"namu myōhō renge kyō"

i dont think "namu" has a chinese equivalent but "myōhō renge kyō" quite clearly comes from "miao-fa lien-hua qing"

so yeah, theyre just straight-up reading the phrase 妙法蓮華経 using a butchered form of the original chinese lmao

no attempts to make it grammatical or use japanese terms or anything

(much less the original sanskrit that buddhism traces its origins to)

though, by now the phrase is so entrenched that i would consider it a "japanese term" itself, just one with obviously chinese origins

im pretty sure its more common in japanese than chinese, even

(certainly googling it only brings up results about japan)

[neat lintel]

@neat lintel hey bro your on ?

. . .

sad

[old star]

There are some "companies" to collect data from imprudent/naive people to sell them to the actuall scam "companies", which will later try to scam the victim using its data.

[green sapphire]

Ok since I was busy then I couldn't reply.

So what I am trying to express is that let the edge of a cube be a function x+1

[surreal sapphire]

that doesnt make sense
even interpreted generously to let the line described by this function be the edge of a cube, it is still unbounded and i am pretty sure that a cube is bounded

[leaden torrent]

memes go in #chill

[green sapphire]

Sorry I had to leave again

Have been busy lately

[leaden torrent]

#❓how-to-get-help

[sick crystal]

unm hello, is anyone here an under/postgrad in computer science

[green sapphire]

So now let the function be set to follow these rules:
In t_1 let x+1_1 be the edge
Where t_1 is time equal to plank time.
Now in t_2, x+1_2 be the edge where x+1_1>x+1_2
Let continue this process.

[storm sage]

I do not know enough buddhism to know whether this makes sense in chinese or not lol

[green sapphire]

_ represent subscript

[storm sage]

looking at wiktionary, it looks like 南無 means the same in chinese as in japanese (deriving from sanskrit)

[green sapphire]

Now let's remember the definition of a 3D object,
We know a 3D object has definite shape, size and position all of these can be interchanged.

Does this object have a definite shape?

If so can it be changed?

No

Therefore our initial hypothesis is wrong,
Either such an edge cannot exist
Or this edge must reach some value for it to show a definite shape.

Since x+1 is just any positive real value and a cube can exist for any positive real value the second statement must be correct.

Therefore x+1 must reach a largest value which would be the largest value of positive R

[mossy oriole]

Question for people who have cats: Do you allow your cats to go outside? Or do you prefer Sue to stay inside the house

[leaden torrent]

the expenses?

[pure sun]

what do you mean by "the expenses"

[neat lintel]

is this google translate

[mossy oriole]

I already fixed it, it was the translator's fault hahaha

[leaden torrent]

ah

[pure sun]

who is Sue

in any case

[leaden torrent]

I keep it inside

[pure sun]

I have cats and I don't let them go outside

[neat lintel]

cats stay in

[leaden torrent]

but my parents built an enclosure for their cats attached to the window

like a cage thing

that they could go "outside" to experience fresh air/outside sounds and stuff

while still being confined

[mossy oriole]

I've seen some of those, it's not very common in my area.

[leaden torrent]

they used it all the time so

[pure sun]

I think it's a cultural thing of like, are cats indoor pets or outdoor pets or both, but at least in the US the recommendation is to keep cats indoors

[leaden torrent]

evidently they like it

[mossy oriole]

Exactly, I prefer to have my cat inside the house (it can also be in my garden, it doesn't escape) because there are many dangers in the street.

[pure sun]

my apartment door goes straight to the outside and if my cats were dead set on getting outside they could easily just jump out when the door opens when i am coming or going

so i made a point to deliberately scare them every time they got close to the door so that they wouldn't like to spend time near it

[leaden torrent]

therapy by trauma

[pure sun]

hahahahahaha

[mossy oriole]

Oh hahaha

It's good

Better safe than sorry

Well, what colors are your cats?

[pure sun]

here let me send a picture

[mossy oriole]

Yess :D

[pure sun]

one is black and the other is tuxedo

[leaden torrent]

ill try and get a photo of it

but part of why they like it so much is

the house also has dogs

and while the dogs dont chase the cats or anything, they do get very... sniffy

[mossy oriole]

Oh my god, they are beautiful!!!!

[leaden torrent]

and the cats sometimes get freaked out by it and need a break

[pure sun]

:D

[leaden torrent]

and the window-cage-enclosure-thing is only for them, the dogs cant get in it

[pure sun]

and they like to snuggle with each other

[leaden torrent]

so yeah, they like it a lot

my parents' cats only tolerate each other lmao

they mostly do their own thing

[pure sun]

these two cats are siblings and we adopted them together, so they were already socialized with each other

[mossy oriole]

How cute, they seem to get along very well! 😊

Adopting cats was the best decision you could have made :)

[pure sun]

yes I agree :)

what color is your cat

[mossy oriole]

She is Manchitas. (spots in Spanish)

[modest rune]

a note on this is that its not just for your cats

cats might be adorable

but they are seriously unmatched apex predators in a lot of ecosystems

and if you introduce them to an ecosystem which isn't ready for them

they can cause serious issues

[pure sun]

manchitas is very cute :)

idk if you had this in mind max

but this headline was going around the internet yesterday

https://apnews.com/article/science-poland-wildlife-cats-birds-b942a55135832d085375de73c9cc2e23

[modest rune]

I hadn't seen this!

I am just very fascinated by how fucking crazy good cats are as predators

[pure sun]

but yeah it's exactly what you said haha

[modest rune]

because they are also like

complete idiots

[pure sun]

cats get out and fuck shit up

hahahahaha

[sick kite]

Omg they're so fucking cute

[pure sun]

yes 😍

[hollow ginkgo]

Based PAN

[ancient flame]

I am going to be a freshman in college soon and I'd like to know what extracurriculars I should do so I dont have too much to do while engaging in activities

im taking 15 credit hours in my first semester and I have a current job (which I might quit in favor of a job at my college)

I would like to participate in 1-2 clubs

obviously the load I have varies heavily but is this decent? are there other cool things I could/should do?

[modest rune]

I personally recommend big clubs w/ lots of upper classmen

[finite tusk]

Did you know someone saying 'technically' is synonymous to '🤓'

[modest rune]

i think i made a lot of older friends in my first year of college

and it really helped

[finite tusk]

I just turned 23 a few days ago and am I too old to be still in undergrad if I wanna get a PhD in physics ?

[modest rune]

clubs that focus on like, actually interacting w/ eachother are key for that reason

[finite tusk]

I'm going to transfer soon to a uni

[modest rune]

not really

[finite tusk]

And finish my undergrad but I'm nervous I'd be really old

It's because you're really young

You're 27 and already almost done with a phd

[modest rune]

huh

[finite tusk]

It's intimidating in a way

[velvet dagger]

I mean you have two options

[modest rune]

im 23 and im not even close to done w my phd

lol

[finite tusk]

Did you just start?

[modest rune]

im starting my 2nd year

[velvet dagger]

Either be "old" and have a degree

[modest rune]

in the fall

[velvet dagger]

Or be "old" and not have a degree

[modest rune]

math phd students tend to be a little younger

[finite tusk]

Why is that

[modest rune]

because we generally don't do any work in between UG and phd

[finite tusk]

And physics PhD students tend to be old

I understand

[steel wind]

Lasagna is spaghetti-flavored cake.

[finite tusk]

Mmmm

[modest rune]

its more common for STEM PhD students outside of math to work in a lab or smth

[velvet dagger]

Science PhD takes extra time because grad students are basically slave labor for labs

[finite tusk]

That's true

[modest rune]

yeah

honestly math phds have it so good

dont tell the union i said that

[finite tusk]

And it costs

[velvet dagger]

Humanities it's apparently customary to take a year off between undergrad and grad

[modest rune]

at least a year

[steel wind]

why?

[modest rune]

normally way more

[velvet dagger]

Math, Econ, CS, and Stats are like

The most pleasant areas to be in

[modest rune]

bc the union (rightfully so) is working to improve the quality of life for math grad students

[finite tusk]

I remember a PhD guy told me he was paying $55/hr at UCLA I believe to use a special type of microscope

That uses light

[ancient flame]

ah ok thats a good idea, thanks

[finite tusk]

To see structure's

[steel wind]

so the union is technically making it for good.

[modest rune]

specifically gmod i joined model un

[finite tusk]

He's a physicists btw

[ancient flame]

ohhhh okay

[velvet dagger]

If you're in humanities, funding is rough during grad school, academia is obviously hell, and it feels like your options outside of academia to do jobs that, if not connected to your research at least connected to your general area, are slim

[modest rune]

preumsably he himself is not paying for this

[ancient flame]

that was at my high school but I never joined it, maybe thats a good idea

[modest rune]

i didnt do it in HS

its a lot of fun

just dont take it too seriously

i know a lot of people who did

[velvet dagger]

If you're in science, again shitty dynamics when it comes to stuff like authorship, labs being slave labor, etc

Medicine? Debt city

[finite tusk]

What college did you get your undergrad from? @modest rune

[sick kite]

maths? gigachad

[ancient flame]

alright thanks for the suggestion

[modest rune]

university of chicago

[velvet dagger]

But math/econ/CS/stats is the sweet spot imo

Because like

[ancient flame]

might be helpful as a business major

[finite tusk]

Is that you in the pfp? You look like Dave Mustaine if he didn't do cocaine

[modest rune]

oh honestly

as a biz major

model un would be amazing

[finite tusk]

https://c.tenor.com/TVcUbM2kU_IAAAAM/dave-mustane-megadeth.gif

[modest rune]

its like, charisma training

[steel wind]

yo mean "taking things too literally"?

[ancient flame]

lol yeah

[modest rune]

i mean seriously

[ancient flame]

thanks max

[velvet dagger]

Funding is decent, your transition to industry if needed is much smoother than in humanities (as long as you know how to code well you've got choices, though lately it's getting harder unfortunately)

[finite tusk]

Bro you look like Dave Mustaine if he didn't do cocaine and heroin

[steel wind]

ROAST 100

[velvet dagger]

How's that a roast?

[sick kite]

funding: 10$ for pen and paper

[finite tusk]

Hwos that's a roast

[velvet dagger]

Geo_Stellar: great minds think alike

Greater minds think faster

[finite tusk]

Ahaaaa

[steel wind]

BRO THATS EXPENSIVE unless its very powerful

[finite tusk]

😲😉

[sick kite]

,iams

[fathom swallow]

Gave you the studying! selfrole.

[leaden sage]

why would you need paper when you have electronics

[velvet dagger]

The $10 actually goes to hagoromo

[fringe needle]

I’ve been reading in a few places that if you plan on eventually getting a phd it’s important to take grad courses early on in undergrad. How true is this?

[velvet dagger]

Depends on the area, in math the way I see it is

[modest rune]

it helps your application

assuming you do well

and anything that helps your application is good

[velvet dagger]

There's the background you'll be expected to have in grad school, and then you want to stand out ideally somehow

Grad courses, reading courses, and the better REUs are all good for this

[fringe needle]

How early would you say is a reasonable balance between having the actual level (and time) required to follow a grad course and helping your application

[modest rune]

as soon as you are able to take them and there is one you want to take, you should take it

idk if i can be any more specific than that

[fringe needle]

Alright I don’t even know if we have the option to take them

[modest rune]

you almost certainly do

but it might be a pain

[full isle]

i heard this also

[modest rune]

(it was a pain at uchicago)

[fringe needle]

It was already a pain to get to do a 3rd year course early

[modest rune]

lame

[full isle]

im supposed to be graduating with 12 grad courses

[fringe needle]

So I’ll see how that plays out and then maybe I’ll ask in 3rd year if there’s a possibility for grad courses

[full isle]

and i feel like thats one of only advantages i have

[fringe needle]

Damn

[full isle]

the sad part is that i didnt get to explore math how in liked

so i slightly regret it now

[fringe needle]

Thing is you guys have 4 years of undergrad no?

[full isle]

i wish i took classes in fields im tangentially interested in like materials science

[fringe needle]

Ah that’s a shame

[modest rune]

Yeah its a bit sad that gunning for grad school kinda limits your course options

all my buddies were taking like

"The influence of jesus on starwars"

[full isle]

yeah you use first 1-2 for prereqs

[ancient flame]

LOL

[modest rune]

and I was always in painful schedules

(thats not a joke)

[ancient flame]

wait

[modest rune]

(its a real class at uchicago)

[full isle]

yeah fr

[ancient flame]

no way

WTF

[deep mango]

[full isle]

they have some funny ass classes in college

[fringe needle]

Yeah we have that too but then only one year of options

[modest rune]

I mean they didnt call it that, but it was a class where you studied theology in star wars

[deep mango]

There is a happy medium here

[ancient flame]

im taking a class called "what is the good life"

sounds boring

I want to live a shitty life

[modest rune]

i honestly don't think i had a happy medium option ryc

[deep mango]

But you dont get the happy medium if you're gunning for grad school either

[modest rune]

like uchicago has so many core requirements

[deep mango]

Lol

I see

[modest rune]

that i really had no time to take anything but math

outside of that

[full isle]

my school was lenient enough

[deep mango]

All my core requirements were quite flexible so i got to take the weird classes i wanted through them

[full isle]

i was able to pretty much finish degree requirements at end of sophmore year

[fringe needle]

Just to be clear, grad school in the us refers to both masters and phd in one go right?

[full isle]

but i had some lingering gen ed classes

[modest rune]

UChicago's core would be much more compelling if the choices sucked less

[deep mango]

Yeah

[full isle]

afaik

yes

[velvet dagger]

Yeah in hindsight I wish I did more stuff like linguistics, econ, compsci, that one Renaissance history class, etc

[fringe needle]

Because we technically have a masters which is separate and I think lasts one or 2 years after undergrad

[modest rune]

Which selection of the writings of dead white men would you like to chat about with the football player from FIJI

these are the important choices

[fringe needle]

So maybe it’s not so comparable to the us

[modest rune]

I hate discussion classes

so much

[full isle]

actually cool

[velvet dagger]

I went hard on the math train lol

[modest rune]

we are in a room full of 20yos and someone with a PhD

[full isle]

every fijian i met is based as hell

[modest rune]

and the only person not allowed to talk

is the fucking expert

[modest rune]

sorry sorry

[velvet dagger]

I had fun in my discussion classes, my instructors were more willing to guide things lol

[modest rune]

I don't mean the country

I mean the fraternity

[deep mango]

Lmao

[full isle]

oh

[modest rune]

FIJI is a football frat

[full isle]

arent they supposed to be greek letters

[modest rune]

it is

FIJI is a nickname

I forget the actual greek name

[full isle]

phi jepsilon iota

[velvet dagger]

HBC and Classics were A+ in particular, rest of the core not so much

[modest rune]

Phi Gamma Delta

[velvet dagger]

Jepsilon lmfao

[modest rune]

i just truly cannot believe this lol

my experience in the same core style classes

was just abysmal

[full isle]

classics made me wanna self harm

way too much shit i didnt care about

[velvet dagger]

There was this frat at Chicago called delta upsilon, friends of mine and I were joking about making delta epsilon

[modest rune]

I mean the whole

"great books" philosophy

is kinda entrenched in a western-centric white-male narrative

and it just is lame

Is John Locke really the thinker every uchicago student needs to be familiar with lol

(the term thinker is also insanely pretentious imo but whatever)

[full isle]

is it me

[velvet dagger]

I don't have much to contrast with so I can't answer that question in particular

[full isle]

or do classics people fal into idolization?

[modest rune]

they do

its this weird obsession

with the mediocre ideas of dead white dudes

[full isle]

i mean i understand some of it though

like philosophy at least

you need to understand the person’s life

[modest rune]

They don't even read that many interesting philosophers

[velvet dagger]

But on a personal level, I came out of HBC considering a philosophy major lol

[modest rune]

Like

[fringe needle]

iF yOuD rEaD (insert dead author) yOuD kNoW yOuR oPiNiOn iS wRoNg

[modest rune]

Rousseau and Locke and so on

aren't even interesting

and you can basically learn all of their relevant ideas

from like a one chapter long secondary source lmfao

[full isle]

exaxtly

the main sources are dogwater

[bright hill]

[modest rune]

there are good primary sources

I took a class on Das Kapital for my last class in college

it was cool

[full isle]

i had to read locke and therau( the guy who made the prince) my freshman year

idk how to spell the name

[modest rune]

dont even get me started on like

losers like machiavelli

[full isle]

jesus lol

they are dead dont sully the graves

[fringe needle]

Seems like you all have a lot of non math courses. We have one per semester out of a lot of options

[velvet dagger]

Somehow I dodged Machiavelli because I switched sosc sections

[modest rune]

the only people who showed up in my core classes who were interesting

was like

[full isle]

so we dont like tupac i guess

[fringe needle]

Last semester was on climate and apart from one part on biology it was boring as heck I don’t think I learned anything

[modest rune]

Marx, Kropotkin, Nietzche, and for some reason Zizek showed up in my poetry class lmfao

actually it take it back most of the poetry class was pretty based

good class

[full isle]

isnt sizek the alive guy?

[modest rune]

well

being alive is one of his many accomplishments

yes

[full isle]

what has he done?

[modest rune]

He's like

[fringe needle]

Stayed alive

[velvet dagger]

I should put that on my cv

[modest rune]

one of the pre-eminent philosophers of the time

idk what else to say hes like as close to being a household name as an alive philosopher can be

[velvet dagger]

"Outlived Galois"

[modest rune]

if someone says jordan peterson i stg

[full isle]

he is like noam chomsky?

[modest rune]

I mean in what sense

they are both influential alive thinkers

[full isle]

alive

[velvet dagger]

Quite an equivalence relation we've got going here

[modest rune]

I think Zizek is quite cool

[full isle]

philosophy scares me in a lot of ways

the research level seems super duper complicated

and hard to enter into

[velvet dagger]

Mary checks under the bed for philosophy at night

[modest rune]

it is

[velvet dagger]

Jk

[modest rune]

people working in high level humanities stuff

[full isle]

i search for zizek

[modest rune]

are super impressive

[full isle]

yeah i agree

but with humanities

ive met very level headed people

but im always curious how much does bias play into some opinions

because their topics are directly related to irl

so the bias will be highest

[bright hill]

Yeah, I stopped thinking that guy was cool after hearing he almost died from a meat only diet and a few cringe takes on trans people

[fringe needle]

If you were objective about everything idk if you’d add much value to the discussion

[modest rune]

Depends what you mean

Like

[velvet dagger]

Just don't be biased

Be biased toward the truth

[modest rune]

a research paper in the humanities will necessarily have a thesis

which the author thinks is true enough to write about

so like

clearly they will be biased

[full isle]

idk its just weird because moving from looking at how math gets discussed and how humanities gets discussed is very different

[modest rune]

but the force of the paper comes from the argument

not from what the author thinks

There are plenty of more humanities style discussions in math

you just dont really see them until youre doing research

[full isle]

oh cool

[modest rune]

the main difference imo between humanities and math is like

in math it is much much easier to "settle" a question

like once the proof is there and people agree with it

its just considered canonical fact

Whereas people are still rehashing centuring old philosophy

makes it seem less "rigorous" when really its just kinda harder

[full isle]

yeah it definitely is rigorous in its ways

but its insanely hard

[velvet dagger]

To a degree it also feels like reasoning about consequences can have more of a role telling you about the underlying foundations in humanities in a way

Like how to put it

Like nowadays I feel like Banach Tarski is just a theorem rather than evidence against choice

[modest rune]

nowadays?

[velvet dagger]

I think early on it was more controversial, no?

[modest rune]

oh

you mean culturally

i thought you meant yourself

[velvet dagger]

Yeah

[full isle]

oh

i see what you are saying

[velvet dagger]

It feels like these sorts of debates just die off faster in math than in humanities, despite the fact that nobody can really... "Definitively resolve" things one way or another

[full isle]

yeah that’s probably what im talking about specifically

im not saying bias is bad

or good

im just curious how much it happens

because im biased as hell as an amateur

also ive heard some things from profs that just didnt sound right

[finite tusk]

@velvet dagger @vivid halo @modest rune what do you guys think about having a neuralink to become super Human and extremely smart?

[vivid halo]

Do not tag me with nonsense thanks

[velvet dagger]

Too speculative to reason about

[modest rune]

this company is doomed to fail for the forseeable future

[finite tusk]

Why?

[finite tusk]

Is there a good reason why?

[neat lintel]

Your username is nGroupoid.

[modest rune]

our understanding of the human brain is so bad that we are like

decades away from being able to "interface" with it

[finite tusk]

And if we get it in 1 decade? The estimated time the soonest is 7 years

The latest maybe 13 years

[modest rune]

estimates by whom

[finite tusk]

Head of engineer of neuralink link

[modest rune]

lmfao

okay

[finite tusk]

Joshua Jess

Hess

[modest rune]

I would not believe anything said by one of Musk's mouthpieces tbh

if the tech exists in usable form in the next 13 years

I would be astounded

[finite tusk]

I have a cs friend that says the same

That's the company I want to work for

[modest rune]

Again not really convincing

[finite tusk]

Dream company

I understand

[modest rune]

that is sad for you

[finite tusk]

Wtf lol

[modest rune]

working for elon musks companies is like a nightmare by all accounts

[finite tusk]

Why is that

Have you personally worked in his companies ?

[modest rune]

the employees are treated quite poorly

No of course not

[finite tusk]

You know people

[modest rune]

I would never work for elon musk lol

I read glassdoor and I am aware of the like

half-dozen lawsuits

aimed at elon's labor practices

[finite tusk]

Give me more insight please

Because

I don't wanna make a mistake

[finite tusk]

Which includes ?

[modest rune]

I would go read the glassdoor for the companies you want to work for and also educate yourself on Musk's history

[finite tusk]

Holy shit this is interesting because I didn't know

[modest rune]

He is not a good employer

[finite tusk]

How does he employ?

[modest rune]

When he almost bought twitter, like half the employees threatened to quit

because they didn't want to work for him

[finite tusk]

I want to develop something for paraplegic people

[modest rune]

He has misconduct allegations with respect to sexism and racism

[finite tusk]

In neuralink that's why

[modest rune]

That is totally a cool thing to want

but honestly until elon is replaced (he almost certainly will be)

I wouldn't work for any of these companies

[finite tusk]

Those are allegations tho .. if there's like a list of people claiming that they get treated like shit and worked there I wanna hear it

[finite tusk]

Mmm I understand

[modest rune]

They are like class action lawsuits lol

all this info is public lol

[finite tusk]

Have they gone through ?

[modest rune]

They are currently fighting them out

[finite tusk]

As in has he been sued

[modest rune]

Yes

he has been served papers

[finite tusk]

Honestly that's more like his life I was just trying to help people that can't walk...

u.u

[modest rune]

Yeah

I mean I am sure there will be other companies

[finite tusk]

There is actually another

Upcoming

[modest rune]

I would honestly say that most elon-competitors are a good bet

[finite tusk]

Kernel

[finite tusk]

Yes it's true

[modest rune]

almost certainly undervalued and almost certainly more likely to survive once this dude has his final meltdown lmfao

[finite tusk]

Would you work for one of those companies ever ?

I noticed there's a lot of divide

In today's day

@modest rune

[modest rune]

uh

I wouldn't work for elon musk on principle

unless I really couldn't get a competitive offer elsewhere

which seems unlikely

[finite tusk]

Is it because of political Principle?

[modest rune]

in part

[finite tusk]

I understand

[modest rune]

I think hes kind of a scumbag for a number of reasons lol

politically and both as a businessman

and also he just seems insufferable as a person

[finite tusk]

To extreme to bear as a person?

Why is that

[storm sage]

didn't he impregnate one of his top execs

like wtf?

that seems so unethical

[finite tusk]

WHOA WHOA WHOA

When wtf

Wait

Drop a link plz

[storm sage]

uhh lemme find a reputable source

[modest rune]

He did yeah

he has like

[finite tusk]

I know that recently his dad had a baby with Elon's step sister

And the baby is born

[modest rune]

27 kids

[finite tusk]

But Elon doesn't like his father

[storm sage]

https://www.businessinsider.com/elon-musk-shivon-zilis-secret-twins-neuralink-tesla

[finite tusk]

He thinks he's the scum of the earth

SHIVON ZILIZS

Bro no

Fucking

Way

BRO

[storm sage]

there's so many problems with this

[finite tusk]

She's the leader of the ai program I believe

[modest rune]

this isn't the first employee hes had a sexual relationship with either

[storm sage]

pain

[finite tusk]

WTF

bro

[hollow sundial]

newsmax only plz /s

[modest rune]

weird

[finite tusk]

Nvm that now

Time to get a PhD in math

[vivid halo]

[finite tusk]

I got redpilled so hard

Rn

[bright locust]

Oof

[finite tusk]

Super based but

What do you guys think that IQ has a 50 percent correlation to being passed down to the offspring and 50percent correlation that IQ increases with age

[light needle]

HOW DOES DISCUSSION ALWAYS DEVOLVE TO IQ

please stop saying IQ

[finite tusk]

Chill bro

[vivid halo]

[finite tusk]

It'll be fine

[vivid halo]

Stop bringing this topic up

[finite tusk]

I only brought it up once

[brittle socket]

Many other people have brought it up regularly

[finite tusk]

Probably that's why maybe people get ticked off so weirdly and easily

[brittle socket]

[finite tusk]

Lol

[hollow sundial]

surprise, confetti

[finite tusk]

Lmao

I like this

@hollow sundial . Straight 🥶🥶🥶🥶🥶

[neat lintel]

[cold needle]

please stop

its annoying

[fervent pebble]

what does yung cofe mean

wait

dont answer

[tall badge]

to this day idk what yung cofe means

[neat lintel]

People are talking about IQ again?

[tall badge]

just one person this time

[finite tusk]

She gave me a lecture on hetertopy last night

@hollow sundial you're that one person they're talking about

@modest rune you wanna give me that lecture on homosloppytopy o wassup!?

Just a joke bro

It's just a prank bro it's just a prank

[dapper badge]

you really should stop pinging people for jokes

[hollow sundial]

[finite tusk]

Lol alright

Don't worry

[neat lintel]

i can't wait until you get banned

[eager reef]

LOL

[tall badge]

jfc

[finite tusk]

I'll just be back

[finite tusk]

Hello Timo how are you my fellow discorder

[finite tusk]

Bro imagine if you get banned first

Broo just imagine

[eager reef]

Go sober up chief

[finite tusk]

Thanks but that ain't it chief

[charred mortar]

Stop taking crack chief

[hollow sundial]

don't say the quiet part out loud

[deep mango]

Alright

Come back in like a day if you can chill out

[eager reef]

God bless ryc

Thank you

[deep mango]

This is the warning mute

[neat frost]

It was just a prank bro

A prank

[neat lintel]

i don't care

[tall badge]

that doesnt excuse being intentionally shitty

[neat lintel]

if someone's a shit member of the server they should know it

[open aspen]

riemann no longer green?? what has the world come to

[storm sage]

I replaced them

[fervent pebble]

[full isle]

So

what do you think about fashion in math

should people abide dress codes and how strict if so

[modest rune]

huh?

[pure sun]

when i was a grad student i wore monochrome polos and cargo shorts

and i was the most dressed up person in the department

okay it was a slight exaggeration

my advisor wore shorts and old t-shirts

every day

conference speakers really varied, some were super casual and some were a little more formal

there really is no dress code though

[dapper badge]

mathematicians stay drippy

[modest rune]

i wear button down short sleeves basically every day

with shorts or pants as appropriate

(appropriate = largely random)

[modest rune]

more hawaiin-shirt vibes than polo vibes

like 70s

[fading zealot]

Is it certain that not every single legal chess positions were played at some point in the history of the game?

[peak tide]

are you also rocking 70s moustachio and chest hair/pelt?

[modest rune]

i have better hair

[fervent pebble]

yes

[peak tide]

that man has paid a lot for his hair implants, don't be a hater

[hollow sundial]

eric is the upgraded me

[green sapphire]

Hello??

[uncut cliff]

What are the areas (in applied of mathematics, computer science) where could use set theory ?

[vivid halo]

please do not spam this question in multiple channels thanks

[uncut cliff]

ok

[bright hill]

I'm really not sure how what you've written can be interpreted as anything but nonsense tbh

So much so that anyone reading that thinks you're trolling or smth (myself included)

If you want to find inconsistencies in the foundation of mathematics, study set theory or smth

Set theorists are the guys ensuring math works as intended

[brittle socket]

Yeah

You state, for instance, "Now let's remember the definition of a 3D object,
We know a 3D object has definite shape, size and position all of these can be interchanged." But you don't state this "defintion of a "3D" object

From what I know dimensionality can vary from one discipline to another

E.g.: In Linear Algebra I think dimensionality would probably be the number of basis vectors you have. i.e. An n-dimensional vector space has n basis vectors

[neat frost]

Also the fact that you’re relying on time and especially Planck time should let you know that your proof is wrong

R is not dependent on physics

[fallow leaf]

um i need a help with maths

[leaden torrent]

#❓how-to-get-help

[cobalt vigil]

What's research mathematics like?

[bright hill]

although I can't comment since I'm barely in uni (lol)

I can refer you to a source that can tell you what it's about

[cobalt vigil]

In highschool, we just apply solid concepts. If you choose to do competitions, you apply concepts in more creative ways. But to explore something new :0

[cobalt vigil]

yes plis

[bright hill]

if you're interested, there is a really good article in the princeton companion to mathematics

you can find that in the holy library

[cobalt vigil]

alrighty

[bright hill]

[cobalt vigil]

I shall have to make do with a pdf, but thank you!

[surreal sapphire]

its not much different than other subjects i think except you dont get to do real world experiments

read research, have idea, investigate, publish/despair

[bright hill]

despair

[neat lintel]

i know a something about someone sayig how research is like

https://www.math.hawaii.edu/~lee/how-to.html

[sleek wing]

"oh this looks funny, and this thing looks funny; perhaps they are related"

[brittle socket]

To be more specific, i think that highschool math is just regurgitation for the most part once you have practiced sufficiently

*At least in my personal context thus far

Yours or others might have different experiences ofc

[toxic gale]

Yeah, standard high school math is unfortunately rather dull.

[brittle socket]

Oh hi

[toxic gale]

'ullo.

[atomic hornet]

Doing a lot of reading and a lot of being stuck

[granite dew]

I wonder why i can type sin23, cos49, tan78, etc. and get a return on a calculator?

[summer sandal]

Like how the calculation computes sin, cos, tan?

I think Taylor series maybe.

Stackexchange said Chebyshev polynomials is faster than Taylor series, so you can look into that.

[granite dew]

ok thank you 👍

[storm sage]

the calculator also likely has a lookup table

e.g. it probably already has built into it what sin 45 degrees is

[neat lintel]

yah

thats also a possibility

[wild lantern]

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/CORDIC

Cordic is another possibility in some cases I think.

[neat lintel]

i wonder why theta is so widely used as angle notation

oh wait

represents unit circle nvm

[pure sun]

it makes the "th" sound in greek

which is short for thangle

[neat lintel]

oh

i thought its a ref to the unit circle

[pure sun]

sorry it was a joke

because "thangle" isn't a real thing

i just took "angle" and put th in front of it

[neat lintel]

ty

[summer sandal]

“In Ancient Greece, theta was the next letter that was not used for anything, and it was distinctive enough to be used for variables. Since Ancient Greek mathematics was largely geometric, and our geometrical tradition comes almost unchanged from Euclid's Elements, it's not surprising we kept the convention for angles”

[neat lintel]

zamn

[velvet dagger]

@pure sun the one time you try to have fun with your answer people take you at face value lol

And now you gotta clarify

V sadge

[eager trout]

Oof

[deep mango]

Buncho is a known troll

[neat frost]

It’s kind of disappointing that so many of the established members in this community are nothing but trolls. For a server so focused on academic excellence, you’d think that these established members would be more respectful to and in the server.

Anyway good morning ryc.

[pure sun]

:(

[bright hill]

isn't thangle theoden's father?

oh, it's spelled thengel lol

[proper tusk]

I passed Structural Analysis and physics server is dead so here we go