#book-recommendations
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he defines the determinant on $n\times n$ matrices as an $n$ linear function which is alternating and sends identity matrix to $1$
sean
i think so at least
yes ur right
Yeah I know of Hoffman-Kunze
But this guy had a book which did it the right way and he was already reading it so no point in starting over
Just say pretty much everything is a tensor and we are done š
But thatās probably what the people that end up doing physics with math would say, which seems like the hole im falling down right now.
The point was about just telling the exact amount of maths needed to understand the concept/construction of the determinant map, nothing more, nothing less
What are the pre requisites to Arnold's classical mechanics book?
I have studied linear algebra and multivariable calculus formally. Would it suffice?
Are there any other classical mechanics books that have only these two as pre requisites but are mathematically rigourous?
I would pick up slightly more advanced vector calculus with proofs (check out Hubbard and Hubbard) and some basic Baby Rudin-level analysis, though the latter is not formally necessary.
And the answer to your second question is no, most rigorous classical mechanics texts assume Riemannian geometry.
Arnold is really doing his own thing here.
Hmm... I have done shifrin (till stokes theorem) and Rudin (first few chapters) for the same.
So i think i can start the book ?
I feel like originally I felt overwhelmed with learning math in proper depth for what Iām trying to do. I think everyone learns math their own way that choose to learn it too.
Most of the texts out there go really deep into the characteristic properties of algebras and functions associated with said algebras.
Eventually it seems to just click for me in my own way.
I think one set back for me is the refinement of my understanding of the more abstract concepts I bump into as I am working with data, papers, and going through physics texts from time to time.
Cuz I started actually learning math abstractly in my 30s
But I donāt think I can see anybody trying to get a handle on quantum mechanics or relativity theory if they donāt spend maybe a good year or two working on some kind of theoretical mathematics foundation
I think itās also reasonable to say, that foundation is definitely going to help so much if what you do requires the ability to abstractly derive things, even if your an engineer.
I think my main take away is, itās ok that I donāt know math in that much depth based on my own refinement. Thatās why math server exists for one. Also We donāt all have the privilege to spend most of our time working through only math books right? At some point you kinda gotta work with an intuition you can at least settle for. At least as long as the moment allows.
Good suggestions for linear algebra? Finished my course in uni with a 4.0, but looking to get into it more
I definitely still think, even after starting these quantum mechanics and general relativity reads⦠that baby rudin is still the hardest book I attempted to read so far
the fucking topology section man
i hate it
i switched to apostol for point set
then gonna go back to rudin
Man I am curious about going through the next 5 chapters but I donāt really have the time to work through baby rudin right now and I feel like I at least have a surface enough level understanding of most of these concepts
You need to use Munkres and or Mendelson to follow along with baby Rudin I would say. And a linear algebra text that works for you
It will make your life way easier
I really like how rudin defines things, definitely try to work through the chapter. I understand if the exercises are brutal cuz they can be for me too š
What stuff do you want? Do you want more theoretical stuff, computational/applied, etc?
when do u start needing linalg for rudin?
isn't it just when u start multivariable
im only planning on using first 8 chapters
Yeah it kicks in chapter 9
aight
i was gonna review linalg then go to spivak com after first 8 chapters
so ig i don't need to review linalg first then
before rudin*
If you've already seen some LA before esp yeah
Like
Some examples of metric spaces are normed vector spaces
And it can be helpful to have that in mind, but it's not super leaned into at the beginning
Honestly dude linear algebra is a woke subject and I say learn along with it right now
Thinking in dimensions is meta
i mean i did learn a bit of linalg up to intro to eigenvalues and eigenvectors
but i haven't done inner product spaces yet
Nice dude
and i mostly forgot a lot of stuff
Hey I mean I say keep learning it
Thereās a lot of stuff to uncover with transformations
And when you do physics, your gona see Lorentz Transformations and stuff all over the place
but i'm really tight on time right now and i feel like taking on group theory, analysis and linalg while preparing for amc10 will be a bit unrealistic
Well I think do your best to optimize what resources you have and the intuition it gives you. Believe in yourself
We all need motivation more than ever rn
inner product spaces are so cool
Thanks for responding. Iām reading linear done wrong itās pretty nice so far
definitely computational
trying to get into ML
for computational LA, have you looked at Fundamentals of Matrix Computations by Watkins? Nice book imo. Another that may be of interest is Matrix Analysis and Applied Linear Algebra by Meyer, which is more of a traditional matrix-oriented LA course but with computational focus
(this is a repost from physics server, posting here as I may be able to get better recs)
whats a nice book for someone who knows some math (abstract algebra, basics of lie groups/algebras and their representations (at level of Hall/Humphryes), real analysis, etc) but virtually no physics besides some elementary mechaniocs and wants to learn physics like quantum theory or statmech with a very heavy math perspective
i read the first 3 chapters of Peter Woit's book but didnt like it much
im thinking maybe folland might be good? idk
chWOO
Folland harmonic?
for quantum mechanics you can try Shankar (physics), Hall Quantum Theory for Mathematicians (math+physics), Teschl Mathematical Methods of Quantum Mechanics (spectral theory)
teschl is free on author's website, hall is on springer, shankar pdf was also free legally through my university's library
depending on what kind of stat mech you can try https://www.unige.ch/math/folks/velenik/smbook/ from a probability perspective. but it covers different material from what you would get in a physics stat mech class.
for physics stat mech you could try Kardar Statistics of Particles
I was guessing Folland Quantum Field theory
though that's not exactly a good place to start if so
I haven't used it but the topic is difficult
Yup
Alright thanks washingbear !
How much probability does the link you sent me assume?
hello I was wondering does anyone who can recommend me a book about the number theory and zeta function related to prime numbers, thank you in advance. I am just trying to understand the riemann hypothesis.
Anyone have book recommendations for complex analysis methods for physicists?
Hi. This surely is an over asked question, so I apologize for bothering. Iām willing to self-study calculus and I donāt know which book I should study from. Iām kind of overwhelmed by the gigantic number of calc books out there and the amount of opinions about some of them. Personally Iām not interested in real world applications, but Iām kind of scared to jump right into Spivakās or other proof based approaches. Donāt get me wrong, I have some experience in basic proofs in geometry, in precalc and in very elementary number theory and I really like proofs. But Iāve heard that Spivakās (and similar books) is incredibly hard for people (like myself) with zero experience in calculus. Should I study first from a not so rigorous/computational book?
Why not give Spivak's book a try? If you don't feel you are making good progress you can always go back for a more computational introduction.
The best thing is to just jump into something and start learning, try not to get bogged down by all the options
For getting introduced to calculus just do Khan Academy and get a handle on it. If you want more of the theory after you learn how it works then you can proceed to books on analysis.
Yeah, maybe that's a good approach: giving a try to a proof-based kind of book and see how it goes. Thank you very much.
I shall check them out taking into consideration @still jay 's recommendation. Thank you.
I appreciate the response, but I don't like videos š
hi, does anyone have any good resources to bridge the gap between a levels and degree maths, i.e. uni prep?
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may i interest you in my "introduction to proofs" document pinned in #proofs-and-logic
tao 's book analysis 1 has an appendix on mathematical logic and proofs which i think is pretty good
found out about it recently when i was looking for recourses for my friend to learn proofs and set theory , tho lochs books in #proofs-and-logic is also sufficient
Sorry I canāt seem to find it
Never mind I got it
Are u referring to the same book as LochverstƤrker#5585 ?
i am
when it comes to things that have more content than what i did, i like aluffi's notes
they do a lot of quite advanced math and i dont know how well that works in practice
Would u say ur document for intro to proofs is a good doc to study before starting uni?
for a math degree, yes
after that you can read an (easy) real analysis book or linear algebra book if you want more
Any recommendations?
but obviously i might be biased š
not really unfortunately
linear algebra maybe "linear algebra done wrong", which is also free (dont mind the name, its a decent book)
Did u make that doc for pre uni maths peeps?
i made that document for transition from highschool to proof based mathematics
in a math degree, yes
in other STEM no, and my document probably isnt (that) helpful
Defo gonna read ur doc cheers mate
have fun!
I think basic measure theory-based probability with conditional expectation, in the appendix they apparently have a section on conditional probability.
it also looks like the first few chapters of Folland qft are review of classical and quantum mechanics, so if you want a fast intro/overview you could try it
I don't know much about the math side of qft but I think it wouldn't have much physical motivation without other physics courses
Guys can someone please recommend me differential equations textbook at the level of first year university courses.
what prereqs are needed to study measure theory?
linear algebra and a course or two in real analysis
having topology also helps a lot, might be mandatory depending on the treatment
same for complex analysis
but the only real prereqs are LA and basic real anal.
(and proofs/mathematical maturity obviously, but that's a given)
I think topology and measure theory are meta areas for people that want to do QFT stuff
Which is what Iām looking into
Quantum Field Theory
Thereās just so much happening and getting as many instances of measures on observables with respect to their reference frames gets pretty deep. You can calculate measures in minkowski spaces as an easy (maybe not very easy to visualize) example
knowing point-set is a bonus
i would say real anal and point set more than linear algebra
only like small linear algebra u would need ig
Do you do TQFT? Do u do it mathematically?
If not, I have never found use for it.
If yes, I can see how I guess.
How about field theory? That seems pretty important in an area seeing as it's quantum FIELD theory
it's a different field
Yea like C and R
hello world!
is there any book to study functions from scratch to BAC Level (logarithms and exponentials) available (In a way that anyone could understand)?
Hi, which book do you recommend for learn mathematics demonstrations?
What do you mean by mathematics demonstrations?
I'm guessing she means introduction to proofs
You can literally learn the intricacies of field theory through relativity and quantum mechanics if you already understand electric fields⦠this is just how I feel about it.
Iāll let you know if I need to go through a field theory text
But so far so good so⦠š¤·āāļø
This is not the same idea of fields in mathematics although we can map those kind of fields to fields of forces and their potential energy
We can just take force vectors and their one forms and we are done? Some snobs will not like that. But the vectors have components that are characteristic of fields and operations that can be performed on them
And we can just say ok, well at the end of the day they generate tensor fields
this is absolutely false, as someone who has in fact studied relativity and quantum mechanics and electromagnetism
You should definitely learn classical field theory before quantum field theory
Just because a field is in essence a tensor field doesn't make the theory as simple as doing tensor calculus
Everything is a tensor
It doesnāt make it simple, I didnāt say that. I didnāt say I wouldnāt go through a classical field theory book but I think I am not having much issue right now going through these books mate. I think Iāll pick up on what I didnāt get from a refined understanding of classical fields
But I think I understand how classical fields work on a surface enough level. I definitely donāt know them as well as people rigorously studying fields š
Ok so everything is not exactly a tensor. Donāt forget we get shit like spinors.
But hey you know what? If you got a good classical field theory book Iāll give it a read at some point or even follow it along with Carroll and Wald @hollow peak
I donāt really have any classical field texts on hand I donāt think anywaysā¦
A full on tensor object preserves itās properties when we Lorentz Transform it
Or at least do a rotation on our coordinate axes for positioning. Given the object is in an inert state, our time parameter doesnāt matter here
For your information classical field theory is done on flat spacetime and Lorenz transformations of coordinates become constant linear maps on tensor fields which can entirely be described in terms of coordinates on R^4, so the differential geometry involved is considerably more simple
also, definitionally, Lorenz transformations do depend on time
Lorenz invariance is a desirable gauge for our tensor fields though, yes (for example the electromagnetic field)
Lol QFT would kill me without classical field theory.
I find it nontrivial af and I work everyday with it.
Any books about complex numbers and their applications?
Yes you have to use a lot of partial differentials on surfaces/manifolds, although you would have to give me more time to work through Carroll and Wald to add more to the conversation about that.
Cause your not working in minkowski space anymore
I like to think of QFT to be a lot of superpositional constraints which matter on a more atomic and instantaneous level
When you compare them to stuff like electric fields in more classical dimensions
looking for a book which rigorously defines all the notation people use in calculus and stuff
hi im a 13 year old and im really interested in maths. im looking for reccomendations on not necessarily a book but rather what i should learn and in what order if i want to pursue more advanced mathematics, im doing pretty well in the maths i learn at school and im willing to spend a lot of time on maths. i would like to start from a level of a 14 year old and go to a more advanced lvel like a 17 year old.
what are you currently learning in school
my standard answer is to check out Mathematical Circles: Russian Experience by Fomin et al
geared towards high school kids (I know you haven't quite started HS yet) looking to explore interesting areas o fmath
Iām on holidays rn but Iām just learning like standard curriculum like very basic algebra and things
thanks, but will it be too hard for me? Do you know something I could do before I start with that one
ok well
i think you should learn trigonometry
there's not too much "proper maths" that you can really do at this stage
at some point if you feel ready I'd recommend picking up a book on proof techniques
I can't say, but you should be able to understand at least some of it
at which point, and what book
any good websites or books to learn it?
I don't know any specific books
you'd have to ask someone else
but i think you can probably tackle it quite soon
itās ok. thanks Iāll try ask someone and start there
they usually don't have many prereqs
For example, the starting chapter "Chapter Zero" starts with some logical word problems to help get you going. Problem 1 is "A number of bacteria are placed in a glass. One second later each bacterium divides in two, the next second each of the resulting bacteria divides in two again, et cetera. After one minute the glass is full. When was the glass half full?"
when you get the hang of proofs you can probably tackle quite a lot of things
itās hard but if I try I think I can do this book
how do I do that question tho
it seems like the answer should be 30 seconds but I know itās not
I can give you a hint later, but for now I think you should try to explore it a bit
any recommendations on books for starting proofs?
The purpose of these problems is that they all have simple solutions, but require you to think about how to approach them
the book of proof I've heard good things about
More importantly, the book has solutions to each problem (still referring to Mathematical Circles by Fomin et al. here)
maybe I can just finish the whole school curriculum until like grade 11 by myself then start advanced maths
true
i think Iām gonna look for a book first which is like basic school curriculum
that's definitely a valid approach
the worst worst thing is wanting to be in front of all the others and ending up doing integrals when your bases in algebra are bad
that is the worst thing you could do
when u mean proofs u mean geometry proofs right
thatās good
you have to become great at algebra and you can slowly build yourself up
hs geometry proofs generally do not need proof techniques
@zenith prawn
yeah
but thatās in the school curriculum right so shouldnāt I just get a grade 9 and 10 book and do it
get the fundamentals down before trying anything too advanced
Or should I get a separate one for algebra
no this is fine
you can get a separate one because it might include harder problems
yeah
but Iām confused on which grade 9 and 10 book to get
but to start it might be grade 9 and 10 the best
yeah that would be good
to be solid
do you know any like good ones for 9 and 10
ig I could get any popular one they would be good right
lmao I donāt
you should simply ask your teacher and tell him your situation
I bet heāll send you the info for a book for gifted kids

yeah Iāll ask him
I would personally branch out and learn the parts of math that aren't covered in school, but I'm only saying that because that's what I did
also do u know any for algebra but not like too advanced for a 13-14 year old
btw just asking in advance where should I go after proofs
wait if not geometry proofs then like proving like what
what kind of topics
all sorts of things, but the book Mathematical Circles that I mentioned has decent coverage
I'd say that the target age of that book is 12 to 16
would you say I should start with mathematical circles or build up my foundation and just do like grade 9 and 10 maths first
mathematical circles is not a book you read cover to cover, it has A LOT of stuff, you go over it slowly over maybe 2 or 3 years
so ideally you are taking your ordinary math classes grade 9, 10 whatever at the same time
mathematical circles is not about learning complicated formulas or advanced theory
it's about learning how to solve problems by developing your mental skills
and your approach to unusual math problems that use, ultimately, very normal math techniques
the book is modeled after the russian math circles that would train kids to become mathematicians during the Soviet Union era
actually I also have a maths tutor and he knows about my situation and he is teaching me geometry proofs
that's great
Iām gonna try get the mathematical circles book tommorow thanks for the recommendation
one way to look at this is: in school you learn a lot of subjects. But you're almost always asked to solve a very straightforward problem that applies the math topic that you've learned. Mathematical Circles is more about, how would you go about solving a REALLY HARD problem that uses that same math topic?
so basically just using the same thing I have learned but harder?
I should also note that there are a variety of other books that are similar to that one, Art of Problem Solving, Moscow Math Circle, etc
Yes and no. The point is that problem solving transcends specific math topics. For example, I assume you've learned about the quadratic formula? It's just a formula. you plug in a,b,c, bam, you have the solution to the quadratic equation
but the Russian experience one would be better for me right or are they all similar
for example proving that at most two values for x are solutions to ax²+bx+c=0
But what about a problem where you don't yet know you need to use the quadratic formula? How would you represent the problem in such a way as to make it a quadratic problem? or maybe you need to use a different formula, who knows!
ohhh ok, btw what should I learn after I learn proofs, not that Iām gonna start now but asking Iām advance
I don't have too much experience with all the other books, unfortunately.
i kinda get It. Thanks
ok first of all you will need trigonometry
like anywhere
so proofs and trig is what I should learn after Iāve got the hang of grade 10 and 9 maths
all advanced maths books will assume you know trigonometry
even if you don't need it
trig first
it's less of a big new thing
ok thanks I was really confused on what to learn before I tried to search it up but there were just a bunch of random things. is it ok if I ping one of u or dm one of u in a few months after Iāve done some of the things you said
to ask things
ping me if you want
Hi ally š
is axler's book Measure, Integration & Real Analysis good for measure theory?
I haven't personally read it, but I heard it's fine
yea ofc
Yes itās fantastic imo
Also it's free, as an added plus
anyone got good graph theory book
read richard trudeau
book
but want something more in depth
networks
Graph Theory by Diestel might be of interest to you or Modern Graph Theory by Bollobas
Can anyone recommend a book on real analysis for dummies?
thanks!
What are some good books on learning differential equations??? so clueless. It must have a ton of applications. (without them my mind goes blank) And also practice problems. Any recommendations will do!
My class used* Elementary Differential Equations and Boundary Value Problems*, 11th Edition, by
William E. Boyce and Richard C. DiPrima. I found it to be pretty good
hello
I'm self-studying mathematics and I want to understand calculus ā are there any concepts I should know before jumping in-depth on calculus? If so, please recommend me a book 'bout it.
Thanks!
highschool algebra, probably check khan academy
Rudin - Principles of Mathematical Analysis
Thanks for the recommendation but I would like to hear more about the book; Reason being that according to the #books "Rudin's book is infamous and widely used, but it is also terse and difficult."
i mean that review says it all
it is very terse and difficult
it's doable though
which is why I'm trying to figure out why user1 would recommend it considering I asked for real analysis for dummies. Perhaps the difficulty is controversial?
the topology chapter i might use a diff resource for though, it's very unmotivated
i mean it's unanimously agreed upon to be hard for a first timer im pretty sure unless ur like cracked af or u have lots of mathematical maturity beforehand
that is definetely not me. I am absolutely terrified of real analysis.
No real analysis text is easy or for dummies, but it is relative to the work you put in. If you want to get the most out of analysis, I would recommend Tao or Rudin. āFor dummiesā is selling yourself short in my opinion, but Pugh and Abott would be best due to skipping out of important results
thanks for the clarification. Tao's book seems like a good fit at first glance. I will delve deeper.
ive tried both apostol and rudin
for point set needed
and i like apostol's presentation of point set a lot more than rudin's
What important results are skipped in Pugh? Does Rudin have cantor set stuff and Function spaces in as much depth as Pugh? I know for a fact that if you account for the exercises Pugh covers way more than Rudin.
Yes!
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Hello everyone, can u pls suggest that Books on Differential and Integral calculus (by Joseph Edwards) would be great for beginners or not?
Could anyone suggest about
Calculus with analytical geometry by louis leithold
How is this book?
what does abbott skip out on, curious? i'm kinda thinking of using it as a first pass then maybe read rudin as a second, deeper dive into the subject
yea that seems to be a very standard text; we used it too
although i can't speak to book quality because i just learned through lecture since my prof was really good so i never read the book
The topology chapter is the best chapter in the book.....
And probably the best chapter on metric space topology in any real analysis book
Try Schroder and Browder? I mean Dami and some others have recommended them as their top intro R.A. picks
if "undergrad" means curves and surfaces then i have no recommendations other than do carmo
Lectures videos on real analysis, around principles of mathemtical analysis Rudin level
THanks
Has anyone read or heard about
Calculus and analytical geometry by louis leithold
I know analytical geometry but idk louis
Oh, was it calculus?
I have an old version of this, my dad used it in his college days
Look up Harvey Mudd Real Analysis, by Professor Francis Su
The camera quality isnt good but you'll get used to it, the blackboard's still readable
He lectures from Rudin, with the addition of giving you some intuition where it's needed
Iāve almost finished 3b1bās essence of linear algebra series and would like to learn more about linear algebra , what book should I get
I think Hammack's Book of Proof is quite good for introductory proofs. It's free online. Though I think the last few chapters are considerably more challenging, the first 10 chapters should be a solid foundation.
How is it?
I have it as a relic, have never used it
Ohk
Check pinned in #proofs-and-logic for loch's summary
Look at pinned messages in this channel, there are good recommendations
Thank you
does anyone know of software that factorises 2-variable polynomials?
I didn't use it but my older brother did
best statistics book?
any michigan ann arbor ppl here
if so can you look in your library for this reference request:
Samelson, H., Differential geometry, āLecture Notes,ā Univ. of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, 1955
are you sure it's published notes?
you can check the library catalog https://www.lib.umich.edu/
Guys which books do u recommend for combinatorics, number theory and geometry?
What do people think about Needham's Visual diff geo book?
As someone mathematically immature I found it quite easily digestible, the long explanations usually kept the amount of time Iād have to think to understand what itās saying down to pretty reasonable times. The diagrams are of course beautiful.
I canāt speak on the whole thing, though. I only made it about halfway through.
is it fine to ask for cs/programming recommendations here
You mean book recommendations for those or just questions related to them?
book recommendations for them
Eh not really sure about that then
I see, thanks!
does anyone have any good reccomendations for the grade 9(13-14) and grade 10(14-15) curriculum. books or websites or any resources
khan academy
i dont think so
i cant find above grade 8
its then split into pre-algebra, algebra, calculus, trig etc
so is grade 9 algebra pre algebra or algebra 1
no idea
Alg 1 is the grade 9 curriculum for America I believe, but even if you donāt live in America it should roughly be grade 9 level
Some things might not be exact but it should pretty well follow it
ALG 1 is 8th grade to set up for calculus in HS- thats how I did it
any books that has a lot of exercises for algebraic fractions?
what king of ex's you need?

