#book-recommendations

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grand thistle
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if i recall correctly yeah

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he defines the determinant on $n\times n$ matrices as an $n$ linear function which is alternating and sends identity matrix to $1$

hasty eagleBOT
grand thistle
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i think so at least

analog lava
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yes ur right

sage python
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Yeah I know of Hoffman-Kunze

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But this guy had a book which did it the right way and he was already reading it so no point in starting over

analog lava
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thank you this guy

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it was actually liquid who recommended the textbook

hearty steppe
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Just say pretty much everything is a tensor and we are done šŸ˜‚

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But that’s probably what the people that end up doing physics with math would say, which seems like the hole im falling down right now.

slim peak
sick wigeon
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What are the pre requisites to Arnold's classical mechanics book?
I have studied linear algebra and multivariable calculus formally. Would it suffice?

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Are there any other classical mechanics books that have only these two as pre requisites but are mathematically rigourous?

misty wyvern
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I would pick up slightly more advanced vector calculus with proofs (check out Hubbard and Hubbard) and some basic Baby Rudin-level analysis, though the latter is not formally necessary.

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And the answer to your second question is no, most rigorous classical mechanics texts assume Riemannian geometry.

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Arnold is really doing his own thing here.

sick wigeon
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So i think i can start the book ?

hearty steppe
# slim peak The point was about just telling the exact amount of maths needed to understand ...

I feel like originally I felt overwhelmed with learning math in proper depth for what I’m trying to do. I think everyone learns math their own way that choose to learn it too.

Most of the texts out there go really deep into the characteristic properties of algebras and functions associated with said algebras.

Eventually it seems to just click for me in my own way.

I think one set back for me is the refinement of my understanding of the more abstract concepts I bump into as I am working with data, papers, and going through physics texts from time to time.

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Cuz I started actually learning math abstractly in my 30s

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But I don’t think I can see anybody trying to get a handle on quantum mechanics or relativity theory if they don’t spend maybe a good year or two working on some kind of theoretical mathematics foundation

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I think it’s also reasonable to say, that foundation is definitely going to help so much if what you do requires the ability to abstractly derive things, even if your an engineer.

I think my main take away is, it’s ok that I don’t know math in that much depth based on my own refinement. That’s why math server exists for one. Also We don’t all have the privilege to spend most of our time working through only math books right? At some point you kinda gotta work with an intuition you can at least settle for. At least as long as the moment allows.

burnt anvil
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Good suggestions for linear algebra? Finished my course in uni with a 4.0, but looking to get into it more

hearty steppe
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I definitely still think, even after starting these quantum mechanics and general relativity reads… that baby rudin is still the hardest book I attempted to read so far

grand thistle
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i hate it

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i switched to apostol for point set

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then gonna go back to rudin

hearty steppe
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Man I am curious about going through the next 5 chapters but I don’t really have the time to work through baby rudin right now and I feel like I at least have a surface enough level understanding of most of these concepts

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You need to use Munkres and or Mendelson to follow along with baby Rudin I would say. And a linear algebra text that works for you

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It will make your life way easier

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I really like how rudin defines things, definitely try to work through the chapter. I understand if the exercises are brutal cuz they can be for me too šŸ˜‚

sage python
grand thistle
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isn't it just when u start multivariable

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im only planning on using first 8 chapters

sage python
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Yeah it kicks in chapter 9

grand thistle
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aight

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i was gonna review linalg then go to spivak com after first 8 chapters

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so ig i don't need to review linalg first then

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before rudin*

sage python
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If you've already seen some LA before esp yeah

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Like

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Some examples of metric spaces are normed vector spaces

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And it can be helpful to have that in mind, but it's not super leaned into at the beginning

hearty steppe
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Thinking in dimensions is meta

grand thistle
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but i haven't done inner product spaces yet

hearty steppe
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Nice dude

grand thistle
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and i mostly forgot a lot of stuff

hearty steppe
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Hey I mean I say keep learning it

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There’s a lot of stuff to uncover with transformations

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And when you do physics, your gona see Lorentz Transformations and stuff all over the place

grand thistle
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but i'm really tight on time right now and i feel like taking on group theory, analysis and linalg while preparing for amc10 will be a bit unrealistic

hearty steppe
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Well I think do your best to optimize what resources you have and the intuition it gives you. Believe in yourself

grand thistle
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alright

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thanks for the motivation man

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i'll try my best

hearty steppe
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We all need motivation more than ever rn

fallow cypress
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inner product spaces are so cool

burnt anvil
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definitely computational

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trying to get into ML

loud cradle
# burnt anvil definitely computational

for computational LA, have you looked at Fundamentals of Matrix Computations by Watkins? Nice book imo. Another that may be of interest is Matrix Analysis and Applied Linear Algebra by Meyer, which is more of a traditional matrix-oriented LA course but with computational focus

burnt anvil
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Thank you bungo

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foggy relic
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(this is a repost from physics server, posting here as I may be able to get better recs)
whats a nice book for someone who knows some math (abstract algebra, basics of lie groups/algebras and their representations (at level of Hall/Humphryes), real analysis, etc) but virtually no physics besides some elementary mechaniocs and wants to learn physics like quantum theory or statmech with a very heavy math perspective

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i read the first 3 chapters of Peter Woit's book but didnt like it much

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im thinking maybe folland might be good? idk

dapper root
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FOLLAND WOOOOOO

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Oh idk about that book

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I just know the analysis one

foggy relic
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chWOO

sage python
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Folland harmonic?

forest sleet
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teschl is free on author's website, hall is on springer, shankar pdf was also free legally through my university's library

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for physics stat mech you could try Kardar Statistics of Particles

forest sleet
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though that's not exactly a good place to start if so

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I haven't used it but the topic is difficult

foggy relic
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Alright thanks washingbear !

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How much probability does the link you sent me assume?

languid pilot
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hello I was wondering does anyone who can recommend me a book about the number theory and zeta function related to prime numbers, thank you in advance. I am just trying to understand the riemann hypothesis.

quasi niche
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Anyone have book recommendations for complex analysis methods for physicists?

slate quarry
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Hi. This surely is an over asked question, so I apologize for bothering. I’m willing to self-study calculus and I don’t know which book I should study from. I’m kind of overwhelmed by the gigantic number of calc books out there and the amount of opinions about some of them. Personally I’m not interested in real world applications, but I’m kind of scared to jump right into Spivak’s or other proof based approaches. Don’t get me wrong, I have some experience in basic proofs in geometry, in precalc and in very elementary number theory and I really like proofs. But I’ve heard that Spivak’s (and similar books) is incredibly hard for people (like myself) with zero experience in calculus. Should I study first from a not so rigorous/computational book?

still jay
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Why not give Spivak's book a try? If you don't feel you are making good progress you can always go back for a more computational introduction.

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The best thing is to just jump into something and start learning, try not to get bogged down by all the options

primal mica
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For getting introduced to calculus just do Khan Academy and get a handle on it. If you want more of the theory after you learn how it works then you can proceed to books on analysis.

slate quarry
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I shall check them out taking into consideration @still jay 's recommendation. Thank you.

slate quarry
graceful valley
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hi, does anyone have any good resources to bridge the gap between a levels and degree maths, i.e. uni prep?

stray veldt
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šŸ‘€

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may i interest you in my "introduction to proofs" document pinned in #proofs-and-logic

gray jungle
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tao 's book analysis 1 has an appendix on mathematical logic and proofs which i think is pretty good

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found out about it recently when i was looking for recourses for my friend to learn proofs and set theory , tho lochs books in #proofs-and-logic is also sufficient

graceful valley
graceful valley
gray jungle
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i am

graceful valley
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Ight cool

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Thanks

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Is uni maths all about proof then?

stray veldt
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when it comes to things that have more content than what i did, i like aluffi's notes

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they do a lot of quite advanced math and i dont know how well that works in practice

graceful valley
stray veldt
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for a math degree, yes

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after that you can read an (easy) real analysis book or linear algebra book if you want more

stray veldt
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but obviously i might be biased šŸ˜›

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not really unfortunately

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linear algebra maybe "linear algebra done wrong", which is also free (dont mind the name, its a decent book)

graceful valley
stray veldt
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i made that document for transition from highschool to proof based mathematics

graceful valley
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So is uni maths all about proof then?

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I’ve heard a lot of people say it is

stray veldt
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in a math degree, yes

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in other STEM no, and my document probably isnt (that) helpful

graceful valley
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Defo gonna read ur doc cheers mate

stray veldt
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have fun!

forest sleet
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it also looks like the first few chapters of Folland qft are review of classical and quantum mechanics, so if you want a fast intro/overview you could try it

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I don't know much about the math side of qft but I think it wouldn't have much physical motivation without other physics courses

wind bramble
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Guys can someone please recommend me differential equations textbook at the level of first year university courses.

weak violet
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what prereqs are needed to study measure theory?

quick hornet
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linear algebra and a course or two in real analysis

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having topology also helps a lot, might be mandatory depending on the treatment

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same for complex analysis

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but the only real prereqs are LA and basic real anal.

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(and proofs/mathematical maturity obviously, but that's a given)

hearty steppe
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I think topology and measure theory are meta areas for people that want to do QFT stuff

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Which is what I’m looking into

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Quantum Field Theory

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There’s just so much happening and getting as many instances of measures on observables with respect to their reference frames gets pretty deep. You can calculate measures in minkowski spaces as an easy (maybe not very easy to visualize) example

analog lava
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i would say real anal and point set more than linear algebra

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only like small linear algebra u would need ig

quasi niche
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If not, I have never found use for it.

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If yes, I can see how I guess.

crimson pagoda
forest sleet
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it's a different field

crimson pagoda
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Yea like C and R

half path
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hello world!

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is there any book to study functions from scratch to BAC Level (logarithms and exponentials) available (In a way that anyone could understand)?

fervent mist
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Hi, which book do you recommend for learn mathematics demonstrations?

lime sapphire
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What do you mean by mathematics demonstrations?

gray gazelle
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I'm guessing she means introduction to proofs

hearty steppe
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But so far so good so… šŸ¤·ā€ā™‚ļø

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This is not the same idea of fields in mathematics although we can map those kind of fields to fields of forces and their potential energy

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We can just take force vectors and their one forms and we are done? Some snobs will not like that. But the vectors have components that are characteristic of fields and operations that can be performed on them

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And we can just say ok, well at the end of the day they generate tensor fields

hollow peak
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You should definitely learn classical field theory before quantum field theory

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Just because a field is in essence a tensor field doesn't make the theory as simple as doing tensor calculus

lime sapphire
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Everything is a tensor

hollow peak
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very true

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QFT is a subset of differential geometry ursmooth

hearty steppe
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It doesn’t make it simple, I didn’t say that. I didn’t say I wouldn’t go through a classical field theory book but I think I am not having much issue right now going through these books mate. I think I’ll pick up on what I didn’t get from a refined understanding of classical fields

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But I think I understand how classical fields work on a surface enough level. I definitely don’t know them as well as people rigorously studying fields šŸ˜‚

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Ok so everything is not exactly a tensor. Don’t forget we get shit like spinors.

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But hey you know what? If you got a good classical field theory book I’ll give it a read at some point or even follow it along with Carroll and Wald @hollow peak

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I don’t really have any classical field texts on hand I don’t think anyways…

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A full on tensor object preserves it’s properties when we Lorentz Transform it

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Or at least do a rotation on our coordinate axes for positioning. Given the object is in an inert state, our time parameter doesn’t matter here

hollow peak
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For your information classical field theory is done on flat spacetime and Lorenz transformations of coordinates become constant linear maps on tensor fields which can entirely be described in terms of coordinates on R^4, so the differential geometry involved is considerably more simple

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also, definitionally, Lorenz transformations do depend on time

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Lorenz invariance is a desirable gauge for our tensor fields though, yes (for example the electromagnetic field)

quasi niche
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Lol QFT would kill me without classical field theory.

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I find it nontrivial af and I work everyday with it.

unkempt plank
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Any books about complex numbers and their applications?

hearty steppe
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Yes you have to use a lot of partial differentials on surfaces/manifolds, although you would have to give me more time to work through Carroll and Wald to add more to the conversation about that.

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Cause your not working in minkowski space anymore

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I like to think of QFT to be a lot of superpositional constraints which matter on a more atomic and instantaneous level

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When you compare them to stuff like electric fields in more classical dimensions

restive falcon
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looking for a book which rigorously defines all the notation people use in calculus and stuff

forest sleet
restive falcon
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nvm

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i got an answer without a book

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and analysis isn't what i mean

zenith prawn
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hi im a 13 year old and im really interested in maths. im looking for reccomendations on not necessarily a book but rather what i should learn and in what order if i want to pursue more advanced mathematics, im doing pretty well in the maths i learn at school and im willing to spend a lot of time on maths. i would like to start from a level of a 14 year old and go to a more advanced lvel like a 17 year old.

restive falcon
blazing canopy
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geared towards high school kids (I know you haven't quite started HS yet) looking to explore interesting areas o fmath

zenith prawn
zenith prawn
restive falcon
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there's not too much "proper maths" that you can really do at this stage

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at some point if you feel ready I'd recommend picking up a book on proof techniques

blazing canopy
zenith prawn
restive falcon
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but i think you can probably tackle it quite soon

zenith prawn
restive falcon
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they usually don't have many prereqs

blazing canopy
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For example, the starting chapter "Chapter Zero" starts with some logical word problems to help get you going. Problem 1 is "A number of bacteria are placed in a glass. One second later each bacterium divides in two, the next second each of the resulting bacteria divides in two again, et cetera. After one minute the glass is full. When was the glass half full?"

restive falcon
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when you get the hang of proofs you can probably tackle quite a lot of things

zenith prawn
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how do I do that question tho

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it seems like the answer should be 30 seconds but I know it’s not

blazing canopy
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I can give you a hint later, but for now I think you should try to explore it a bit

restive falcon
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calculus probably

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sorry

zenith prawn
blazing canopy
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The purpose of these problems is that they all have simple solutions, but require you to think about how to approach them

restive falcon
blazing canopy
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More importantly, the book has solutions to each problem (still referring to Mathematical Circles by Fomin et al. here)

zenith prawn
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maybe I can just finish the whole school curriculum until like grade 11 by myself then start advanced maths

restive falcon
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true

zenith prawn
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i think I’m gonna look for a book first which is like basic school curriculum

restive falcon
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that's definitely a valid approach

zenith prawn
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do you know any for like grade 10

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And 9

storm sage
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the worst worst thing is wanting to be in front of all the others and ending up doing integrals when your bases in algebra are bad

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that is the worst thing you could do

zenith prawn
restive falcon
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like

storm sage
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you have to become great at algebra and you can slowly build yourself up

restive falcon
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hs geometry proofs generally do not need proof techniques

restive falcon
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yeah

zenith prawn
restive falcon
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get the fundamentals down before trying anything too advanced

zenith prawn
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Or should I get a separate one for algebra

storm sage
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you can get a separate one because it might include harder problems

restive falcon
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yeah

zenith prawn
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but I’m confused on which grade 9 and 10 book to get

storm sage
zenith prawn
storm sage
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to be solid

zenith prawn
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ig I could get any popular one they would be good right

storm sage
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lmao I don’t

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you should simply ask your teacher and tell him your situation

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I bet he’ll send you the info for a book for gifted kids

zenith prawn
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yeah I’ll ask him

blazing canopy
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I would personally branch out and learn the parts of math that aren't covered in school, but I'm only saying that because that's what I did

zenith prawn
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also do u know any for algebra but not like too advanced for a 13-14 year old

zenith prawn
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wait if not geometry proofs then like proving like what

blazing canopy
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all sorts of things, but the book Mathematical Circles that I mentioned has decent coverage

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I'd say that the target age of that book is 12 to 16

zenith prawn
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would you say I should start with mathematical circles or build up my foundation and just do like grade 9 and 10 maths first

blazing canopy
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mathematical circles is not a book you read cover to cover, it has A LOT of stuff, you go over it slowly over maybe 2 or 3 years

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so ideally you are taking your ordinary math classes grade 9, 10 whatever at the same time

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mathematical circles is not about learning complicated formulas or advanced theory

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it's about learning how to solve problems by developing your mental skills

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and your approach to unusual math problems that use, ultimately, very normal math techniques

zenith prawn
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oh ok so it’s not really like a school thing

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i would like that kind of a book

blazing canopy
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the book is modeled after the russian math circles that would train kids to become mathematicians during the Soviet Union era

zenith prawn
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actually I also have a maths tutor and he knows about my situation and he is teaching me geometry proofs

blazing canopy
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that's great

zenith prawn
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I’m gonna try get the mathematical circles book tommorow thanks for the recommendation

blazing canopy
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one way to look at this is: in school you learn a lot of subjects. But you're almost always asked to solve a very straightforward problem that applies the math topic that you've learned. Mathematical Circles is more about, how would you go about solving a REALLY HARD problem that uses that same math topic?

zenith prawn
blazing canopy
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I should also note that there are a variety of other books that are similar to that one, Art of Problem Solving, Moscow Math Circle, etc

blazing canopy
zenith prawn
restive falcon
blazing canopy
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But what about a problem where you don't yet know you need to use the quadratic formula? How would you represent the problem in such a way as to make it a quadratic problem? or maybe you need to use a different formula, who knows!

zenith prawn
blazing canopy
restive falcon
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like anywhere

zenith prawn
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so proofs and trig is what I should learn after I’ve got the hang of grade 10 and 9 maths

restive falcon
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all advanced maths books will assume you know trigonometry

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even if you don't need it

restive falcon
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it's less of a big new thing

zenith prawn
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ok thanks I was really confused on what to learn before I tried to search it up but there were just a bunch of random things. is it ok if I ping one of u or dm one of u in a few months after I’ve done some of the things you said

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to ask things

restive falcon
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ping me if you want

dapper root
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Hi ally šŸ‘‹

weak violet
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is axler's book Measure, Integration & Real Analysis good for measure theory?

grave thorn
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I haven't personally read it, but I heard it's fine

grave thorn
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Also it's free, as an added plus

late plinth
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anyone got good graph theory book

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read richard trudeau

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book

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but want something more in depth

fallow cypress
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networks

crimson leaf
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Graph Theory by Diestel might be of interest to you or Modern Graph Theory by Bollobas

glossy pawn
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Can anyone recommend a book on real analysis for dummies?

analog lava
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try understanding analysis by abbot

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or tao analysis 1 ( boring book too slow )

glossy pawn
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thanks!

fallow summit
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What are some good books on learning differential equations??? so clueless. It must have a ton of applications. (without them my mind goes blank) And also practice problems. Any recommendations will do!

glossy pawn
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My class used* Elementary Differential Equations and Boundary Value Problems*, 11th Edition, by
William E. Boyce and Richard C. DiPrima. I found it to be pretty good

restive falcon
gray gazelle
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I'm self-studying mathematics and I want to understand calculus — are there any concepts I should know before jumping in-depth on calculus? If so, please recommend me a book 'bout it.
Thanks!

stray veldt
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highschool algebra, probably check khan academy

zealous bane
glossy pawn
grand thistle
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it is very terse and difficult

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it's doable though

glossy pawn
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which is why I'm trying to figure out why user1 would recommend it considering I asked for real analysis for dummies. Perhaps the difficulty is controversial?

grand thistle
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the topology chapter i might use a diff resource for though, it's very unmotivated

grand thistle
glossy pawn
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that is definetely not me. I am absolutely terrified of real analysis.

zealous bane
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No real analysis text is easy or for dummies, but it is relative to the work you put in. If you want to get the most out of analysis, I would recommend Tao or Rudin. ā€œFor dummiesā€ is selling yourself short in my opinion, but Pugh and Abott would be best due to skipping out of important results

glossy pawn
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thanks for the clarification. Tao's book seems like a good fit at first glance. I will delve deeper.

grand thistle
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ive tried both apostol and rudin

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for point set needed

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and i like apostol's presentation of point set a lot more than rudin's

halcyon garden
fervent mist
nimble hollow
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Hello✨

gray gazelle
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Hello everyone, can u pls suggest that Books on Differential and Integral calculus (by Joseph Edwards) would be great for beginners or not?

nimble hollow
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Could anyone suggest about
Calculus with analytical geometry by louis leithold
How is this book?

coral marsh
coral marsh
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although i can't speak to book quality because i just learned through lecture since my prof was really good so i never read the book

livid ermine
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And probably the best chapter on metric space topology in any real analysis book

heady ember
sudden kindle
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Whats a good undergrad differential geometry course textbook?

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@gray gazelle

gray gazelle
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if "undergrad" means curves and surfaces then i have no recommendations other than do carmo

tawny copper
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Lectures videos on real analysis, around principles of mathemtical analysis Rudin level

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THanks

nimble hollow
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Has anyone read or heard about
Calculus and analytical geometry by louis leithold

broken pollen
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I know analytical geometry but idk louis

nimble hollow
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Oh, was it calculus?

worn oasis
surreal phoenix
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The camera quality isnt good but you'll get used to it, the blackboard's still readable

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He lectures from Rudin, with the addition of giving you some intuition where it's needed

golden yacht
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I’ve almost finished 3b1b’s essence of linear algebra series and would like to learn more about linear algebra , what book should I get

shell geyser
# fervent mist Yes!

I think Hammack's Book of Proof is quite good for introductory proofs. It's free online. Though I think the last few chapters are considerably more challenging, the first 10 chapters should be a solid foundation.

worn oasis
nimble hollow
tawny copper
shy compass
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does anyone know of software that factorises 2-variable polynomials?

sage python
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I didn't use it but my older brother did

gray gazelle
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best statistics book?

gusty smelt
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any michigan ann arbor ppl here

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if so can you look in your library for this reference request:

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Samelson, H., Differential geometry, ā€œLecture Notes,ā€ Univ. of Michigan, Ann Arbor, Michigan, 1955

forest sleet
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are you sure it's published notes?

river tangle
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Guys which books do u recommend for combinatorics, number theory and geometry?

halcyon garden
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What do people think about Needham's Visual diff geo book?

primal mica
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As someone mathematically immature I found it quite easily digestible, the long explanations usually kept the amount of time I’d have to think to understand what it’s saying down to pretty reasonable times. The diagrams are of course beautiful.

I can’t speak on the whole thing, though. I only made it about halfway through.

formal tinsel
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is it fine to ask for cs/programming recommendations here

hollow dome
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You mean book recommendations for those or just questions related to them?

formal tinsel
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book recommendations for them

hollow dome
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Eh not really sure about that then

zenith prawn
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does anyone have any good reccomendations for the grade 9(13-14) and grade 10(14-15) curriculum. books or websites or any resources

stray veldt
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khan academy

zenith prawn
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i think

stray veldt
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i dont think so

zenith prawn
stray veldt
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its then split into pre-algebra, algebra, calculus, trig etc

zenith prawn
stray veldt
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no idea

solemn musk
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Some things might not be exact but it should pretty well follow it

wintry hornet
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book recs for prep for oxford MAT?

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ive exhuasted all the prev papers

worn oasis
glossy tundra
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any books that has a lot of exercises for algebraic fractions?

glossy nova
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what king of ex's you need?

coral marsh
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i have a version from dover somewhere but misplaced it some time so idk where it is

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this

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