book-recommendations

[willow pecan]

你吃饭

You eat food

你吃饭了吗？

Have you eaten food?

了 signals past tense and 吗 makes it a question

[static crest]

[zealous jetty]

Oui, j'ai mang3 le riz

[clever fox]

hey does anyone have any book recommendation for topology!

[willow pecan]

Munkres is the standard topology book

[storm sleet]

Mendlesons intro to topology is a very easygoing (maybe too easy) Dover Book. I used it to get a basic intuition, then moved to Munkres

[gray gazelle]

Munk munk munk

[ripe granite]

munkres is popsci for nerds

[sudden kindle]

"Standard"

A lot of standard books are trash

Ahlfors is trash

Hartshorne is trash

[willow pecan]

Is Munkres trash?

I've never looked at it

[sudden kindle]

Me neither

[sage python]

Munkres feels way too long for most people lol

[clever fox]

wait i need it to be proof heavy btw

[quick hornet]

id be surprised if there was a topology book that WASNT proof heavy

[clever fox]

i don't mind it being too long as long as it's good hehhe

[quick hornet]

what are you doing in topology if youre not proving things?

computing standard bounded metrics??

[zealous jetty]

learning topology from munkres can be pretty bland I think.. lol

[clever fox]

true true!

so mendlesons is good right ty i'll look into it!

[marble solar]

RIP Miura

[timber ravine]

🤔
What about just modern-ish?
Like a Big Hero 6 kind of thing
That's not common?

[manic fox]

hi ragh

[hasty turret]

So,Pixar?

[willow pecan]

This just in: conversations have context

[timber ravine]

Hmm not really
More like Worm?

Should have thought of that; it's a better example of what I meant

[atomic stag]

What was the name of Sivik's book for calculas?

[quick hornet]

Calculus

by michael spivak

is, im assuming, what youre after

[whole rain]

maybe topology without tears ?

you can also check out the first chapters of lee's topological manifolds, depending on what you're looking for, it may be a nice choice too

[sage python]

Shika's book might be good, without contradicting that I'll toss in my 2 cents: I don't think point-set topology is something to spend too much time on

Unless you're doing specific things that rely on heavy stuff

So I'd find an efficient treatment and move on. Maybe topology without tears is efficient, idk. I learned it out of chapter 1 of Bredon's topology and geometry book. Also these notes seem good: https://pi.math.cornell.edu/~hatcher/Top/TopNotes.pdf

[whole rain]

these notes are a bit too terse imo

[whole rain]

(also iirc you're in prepa, if you're looking for something that covers in depth normed vector spaces and less metric/general topology, these aren't great recommendations)

[sage python]

prepa
Baguette confirmed

[clever fox]

I do actually want to study actual topology :D

so thank u so much for the recs!

[whole rain]

[whole rain]

[clever fox]

sadly yes

[sage python]

Jokes aside good luck

[clever fox]

tyty :D

[prisma snow]

I used this because it's what my course used

I would say it's a good choice if you like a looooot of explanations. Like iirc, it even explains like proof techniques

[storm harness]

Did you mean to reply to ange

[prisma snow]

I meant this

[whole rain]

[clever fox]

thanks everyone!! :D

[vagrant sedge]

Hi. What are good books on functional analysis and measure theory that have not just theoretical exercises, but also more "computational-style" exercises and also exercises showing applications to other things (like "how to use this theory elsewhere")? Thanks.

[prisma snow]

I think kreyszig is kind of an easy FA book with applications but it doesn't use or contain measure theory

I don't know a good measure theory books with a focus on applications

[gray gazelle]

nontheoretical measure theory

[prisma snow]

Let me rephrase

[old jasper]

any good books on trigonometry?

[gray gazelle]

Search this channel for it, lots of recommendations

[vale granite]

Differential geometry books?

Except T. J. Willmore

[gray gazelle]

people seem to recommend Lee a lot

[vale granite]

Oh i'll check then

[past comet]

你吃了饭吗

[gray gazelle]

NCERT

https://ncert.nic.in/exemplar-problems.php?ln=

Best books

for any Mathematics problems

[frosty girder]

[hasty turret]

This is high level trolling

[raven gulch]

I've been wondering if there is a book with everything about science in general

Or a site

I just want to find some organized place with a lot of information

[zealous jetty]

w i k i p e d i a

[raven gulch]

Except Wikipedia

[zealous jetty]

scholarpedia?

[hasty turret]

Wikipedia isn't helpful if you want to learn advanced material

It either doesn't exist or the wikipedia answer is too difficult to understand

[raven gulch]

But is there any place with a lot of deep information about mathematics and physics

[hasty turret]

nlab?

[raven gulch]

Looks nice

[karmic thorn]

Depends on what you mean by deep and lot of information, but Wikipedia is more or less canonical for some stuff. Other than that you'd probably have to hunt multiple sources, usually not so tough to find.

[gray gazelle]

https://planetmath.org

[quick hornet]

i would not recommend any of these (nlab, wiki, planetmath) as a learning source

theyre not designed to be pedagogically sound or self-contained

as a compliment to another source, sure

but youre not gonna find a one-stop place to learn things

[gray gazelle]

do any of you know good books for counting and probabiliy?

[raven gulch]

So. Do you know something that could help me?

That is the problem i don't know what the topics are. I want to have an overview about every kind of math

So then i could pick topics

It looks nice

Thanks

[quick hornet]

napkin assumes you already know high school math

fyi

[raven gulch]

I am in high school

[hearty steppe]

This looks like something that can be a little helpful for me as well

Even tho I’m not in high school

[frank matrix]

Highschool math is basically just algebra and geometry

[vagrant sedge]

Not sure if this the appropriate channel to ask, but is there a "curation" of NPTEL courses? Like a rank of the various better ones for math, physics and engineering out there.

[hasty turret]

It's usually better to use other sources compared to NPTEL, except for very specific topics

[vagrant sedge]

Hmm ok.

Is it that bad?

[hasty turret]

What topics do you want to learn?

[vagrant sedge]

I had this one in mind -> https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5E4E56893588CBA8

Opps

no no

[hasty turret]

Yea, Balakrishnan is pretty good

[vagrant sedge]

wrong link

[hasty turret]

as far as I have heard

[vagrant sedge]

It was this one: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbMVogVj5nJRhl_6TUGChpnt2Lg0AZvZu

same professor though

[earnest relic]

Anyone have any textbook recommendation to learn about transforming highly nonlinear and complex models into finite-dimensional problems? In particular psudeo-spectral methods.

[hearty steppe]

Yea but the Napkin book is one of those books to help people ease into higher level math

[vagrant sedge]

@hasty turret btw... sorry to insist on this.. but are the nptel stuff that bad?

[hearty steppe]

I think I saw some kind of programming video off nptel that was really bland

[gray gazelle]

Plain trigonometry written by nathan o niles is a good book to start learning trigonometry?

[gray gazelle]

@vagrant sedge no there just tends to be better alternatives for very mainstream courses

[vagrant sedge]

Thank you.

[noble kettle]

Hi

[hasty turret]

Usually yes

It's usually some guy reading a textbook word to word

[karmic thorn]

Balakrishnan is an excellent expositor, I'm sure following these lectures with a textbook would be worth it.

But yes, most courses offered by NPTEL are...bad.

The ones being offered recently are improving on a pedagogical level, especially by the younger faculty.

[karmic thorn]

Try Manga Guides.

Hmmmmm

Pugh's Analysis

[gray gazelle]

did someone say tiddies?

[karmic thorn]

Yeah, Pugh's Real Mathematical Analysis

Or in fact

Gimme a moment

@fast portal

There's also a playlist on Knot Theory on YouTube, the animations are very nice.

[manic fox]

no, they are knot

[karmic thorn]

To be or knot to be

[hasty turret]

Ok?

[sudden kindle]

Homotopical Topology

[tulip blade]

i love pugh

[karmic thorn]

I didn't like it that much, the approach didn't click with me.

[gray gazelle]

the book is good if used right

let me tell you, it does not pair well with an analysis class where rigor and proving everything is the norm

[karmic thorn]

It's probably more of a book actively used along with a class, not so much for studying on your own.

Lol

[gray gazelle]

i am coping

[karmic thorn]

[gray gazelle]

a month and a half after the end of the course and i am coping

[karmic thorn]

Archimedean principle proof when

[hasty turret]

Your brain on pugh

[gray gazelle]

please

i try so hard

and it keeps coming back to haunt me

[marble solar]

Yeah, Pugh is for moral understanding

[whole rain]

rigor != proving everything, is it ?

[gray gazelle]

the grading policies in this course were...

extreme, let's say

[marble solar]

did you come out ok?

[gray gazelle]

yeah i got an A-

[whole rain]

Like I don't think it's not rigorous to not prove something you'd be able to prove (I mean, outside of any school context)

[marble solar]

I got shrekt in real analysis

Two B-'s

and a C

[gray gazelle]

[marble solar]

Eh it's ok, I got a paper in PDEs

🤷‍♂️

[whole rain]

[sage python]

Honestly props for not getting traumatized

I feel like if I did poorly I'd have probably just let it get in my ahead and avoid it

[gray gazelle]

hey, any recommendation on a book to teach myself calculus?

[hasty turret]

Spivak calculus

[gray gazelle]

my background is :
ive completed precalculus and thats it

oh okay

ill take a look at it

[hasty turret]

:)

[gray gazelle]

there isnt much of a big difference between a book and another right?

like, they are going to teach me the same things

i assume in different approaches or smthn

[sage python]

Spivak Calculus is if you want to have a very rigorous, theoretical treatment of calculus

[gray gazelle]

oh maybe thats not exactly what im looking for then

[hasty turret]

I guess Thomas might be better

[velvet briar]

Most textbooks/youtube will give you a mechanical intro

[hasty turret]

Or just watch a YouTube series

Most highschool books are not worth it

[gray gazelle]

i see then

[velvet briar]

I wouldn't pass up Khan Academy as he has a curriculum

[sage python]

Stewart's the standard for calculus

[gray gazelle]

oh yeah i think ill use khan too

just thought of a book as a complement to khan

or khan academy as a complement to a book

[sage python]

Eh idk if I should recommend Stewart

Thing is I feel like a lot of calculus books at that level are kinda isomorphic

[gray gazelle]

what do you mean by that

[sage python]

Like the price difference between Stewart and other books is gonna be wayyyyyy higher than the quality difference

And there may very well be a cheaper book that's equally good/better

[broken meadow]

you shouldnt do stewart if possible

or any of the other isomorphic ones

like if you have to do it

[gray gazelle]

mentioning piracy is against the rules right

[broken meadow]

at least find a pdf somewhere

[warm glen]

what ab paul's online notes to learn calc

[broken meadow]

somewhere uh

pauls notes are okay

[viral hill]

is apostol one of the isomorphic ones?

[broken meadow]

no

[sage python]

Nah Apostol is more like awkward Spivak

[warm glen]

ive posted this before but

[gray gazelle]

uhh regarding price, lets say i have uhh

[warm glen]

https://realnotcomplex.com

[gray gazelle]

i might do a little bit 🏴‍☠️

[sage python]

So the rule here on piracy is, we're not gonna like

Report you to the cops because we suspect something

And I don't know how many individuals here care that much

[gray gazelle]

ah great

[sage python]

But discord TOS is that we don't promote/encourage/engage in illegal behavior

[gray gazelle]

Oh yeah i get that

[sage python]

So yeah I'm just gonna say about Stewart that I don't think it's so special to be worth the sticker cost. The theorems are the same. If you have some method of acquisition such that the cost is similar between books, be it buying used editions or something more dubious, then I take back my anti-recommendation because I don't know the alternatives

[gray gazelle]

oh i see

lets say that

all the books cost the same

[sage python]

So in that case I'd wager Stewart's probably fine

[gray gazelle]

oh great

[sage python]

There might be better choices but I imagine if it wasn't one of the better ones it wouldn't become so standard in schools

[gray gazelle]

nice

i dont think my school covers calculus

well, i hope i can go through 631 pages of math

[sage python]

Stewart is like

3 semesters I think

[pseudo forge]

for electrical engineering, calculus 1-3, do you folk recommend Stewart, MIT OCW or Pauls online notes?

or something else?

[storm sleet]

I’ve heard good things about OCW, Paul’s notes are a fantastic supplement in general

And the above convo recommended Stewart, so I’d opt for that and use the others as supplements as need be

[pseudo forge]

sounds good, thanks

[vagrant sedge]

Btw... what do you guys think of Edwin Moise's Calculus book?

[sage kelp]

Hello everyone. I would like to know what's your opinion on Abbott's real analysis book. Also, I would like to take advantage and say that I'm looking for a study buddy for real analysis, if anyone is interested

[gray gazelle]

Is Gamelin's book good for complex analysis?

[gray gazelle]

i read from it and did problems from it while preparing for my complex analysis exam and i liked what i read

nice selection of topics, fair number of examples

the residue integration section in particular is very thorough

[sage python]

My impression of Gamelin is that it's the best book for people who don't have a lot of background

[gray gazelle]

Thank you! I took a "Complex Variables" course that had no rigor whatsoever

And would like some proper complex analysis

[sage python]

Complex analysis is very cute

[gray gazelle]

The only other complex texts I knew of were Alfors and adult Rudin, and I have sufficient fear of God, so I'm not touching those

[sage python]

What's your real analysis background?

Actually I'll just say check pinned messages

I put a review of complex analysis books

[gray gazelle]

Lovely, thank you very much!

Oh, and you have an algebra one too! That's great

and I have sufficient fear of God, so I'm not touching those

don't worry ahlfors is not as hard as rudin

ahlfors is alright

I own baby Rudin
If the baby is that ugly, I don't wanna see the papa

[static crest]

ahlfors good

[gray gazelle]

my notes r better

/s

I'm currently reading through Hubbard^2. I then plan to go to Analysis I/II (Tao), Munkres, Lee (Smooth manifolds), and then Lee (Riemann)
I'll squeeze complex and algebra in there somehow

lee riemannian manifolds

Is that a bad choice?

no not at all

i really like that book

I want to learn diff geo (and math in general, lol).
I've been doing physics up until now, but I'd like to know what in the fresh hell I'm actually doing

[craggy imp]

Well well well

[gray gazelle]

Is it good if I try to self study linear algebra from Friedberg book?

[willow pecan]

Sure

[craggy imp]

Im sure its fine, but i would also recommend Axler’s “Linear Algebra Done Right”, a very nice book i found it to be, never heard a soul not like it!

[sage python]

Hard disagree

[gray gazelle]

Hmmm, I was afraid that if I choose those, I'll have a harder transition when I want to move to a more applicative based side

[sage python]

Axler thinks about char poly and determinants like a moron

[craggy imp]

You dont like it?

[willow pecan]

I don’t either

[sage python]

It's probably good exposition in the first part

[craggy imp]

To be fair i didnt read the last bit

I liked all of what i read, which was most of it

[gray gazelle]

I just heard Friedberg has balance between pure math and application math kind idk

[viral hill]

by last bit you mean?

[gray gazelle]

So that's why I ask here to make sure o.o

[willow pecan]

Yes Friedberg is a fine book

[gray gazelle]

friedberg is nice

i like it

Okay thanks 😄

[sage python]

But like he says char poly is given by, complexify, upper triangularize, product of t-diag

Which is so stupid

[craggy imp]

Ehh determinants and some of the stuff on complex vector spaces

[craggy imp]

Whats the alternative? (Im not a maths boii)

[sage python]

Friedberg seems good, I partially used Hoffman-Kunze which is old school but good

[gray gazelle]

the alternative is just defining a determinant

[sage python]

Oh oh

Yeah just define determinants conceptually

Computationally and using exterior products

[gray gazelle]

so good

axler fanboys in shambles

[willow pecan]

Product of eigenvalues

[sage python]

Ehhhhhhhhhh

I don't like the idea of passing to a larger field when you can just work in the field

[willow pecan]

Real matrices have real eigenvalues

[sage python]

Uhhhhhhhhhhhh

Wait you're trolling right?

[willow pecan]

[sage python]

This isn't helping me figure out whether you're trolling or not lol

[gray gazelle]

[sage python]

I'll assume you are

[willow pecan]

[craggy imp]

[gray gazelle]

By the way, the friedberg book itself is self-contained right?

(means I don't need anything outside high school math, probably requiring some experience in proof writing, which I have).

[craggy imp]

Yeah would just require high school algebra

[gray gazelle]

Okay 😮

[craggy imp]

The proof writing you pick up as you go

[manic fox]

le algebraic closure of a field has arrived

[gray gazelle]

[hasty turret]

Tao has a lot of foundational fluff tho

You can skip a significant portion of Tao and still be fine,I think

[gray gazelle]

Duly noted. I've gone through the construction of the natural numbers already

[manic fox]

you can skip all of tao and you will be fine

[gray gazelle]

What would you recommend instead?

[manic fox]

i just wanted to take a jab at tao

[gray gazelle]

Fair
I thought you were going to recommend baby Rudin to me, had some heart palpitations there

[craggy imp]

Do it, i dare yah😂

[manic fox]

i think just read around and see what u like best

[gray gazelle]

I own it

[manic fox]

everyone is very different

so ppl learn diff and with diff approaches

[gray gazelle]

I actually like Rudin, but I'd like to use it as a supplement

[manic fox]

go for it 😌

[craggy imp]

I do too, actually had an exam q come from it

Didnt get it for my life

[hasty turret]

If you like stuff like construction of N, you can read that. But, that's completely useless,since you usually just assume N exists and be done with it

Same for R,you just assume R exists and has the least upper bound property

[gray gazelle]

Fair

[manic fox]

i mean u can construct them definitely

[small garden]

what's a good way to access research papers? (in compliance with rule 7 lol) I know that I can get them from my university but mine isn't that great so they probably won't have really niche stuff

[hybrid sparrow]

From

#❓how-to-get-help

Rule 7

When asking for help, do not insist on getting just the answer; we are here to help you learn, not cheat. Likewise, if you are providing help to others, try your best to explain and elaborate instead of simply giving away the answer.

[storm harness]

[quick hornet]

arxiv

assuming they were published in the last couple decades

[gray gazelle]

hello!
i am applying to ug computing in 2022.
i'll be grateful to get some recs for sequences and series.

[small garden]

oh what

[golden bear]

Are these two books good to review before I head to grad school? I never took Undergrad abstract algebra

[quick hornet]

wow stillwell is a bizarre text

in any case, that isnt sufficient if youre going to actually do any algebra in grad school

very minimal commutative algebra exposure

also very little rep theory (van der waerden only has 1 small chapter on rep theory and its in volume 2)

that said, if you managed to get into graduate school without any algebra, then you probably wont be doing any algebra in grad school

so i guess thats not a concern

in which case, probably sufficient although if youre doing analysis/topology id still recommend doing a bit more if possiblee

wait, what do you mean by review?

do you mean you learned abstract algebra but never took a formal course?

in that case my advice changes

(and you probably wont need stillwell at all)

[golden bear]

like review some of the material taught at an undergraduate level Algebra.

I NEVER took a formal course.

[quick hornet]

but you did learn the content before?

if so then the van der waerden series should be fine

[golden bear]

No

[quick hornet]

then what do you mean by review?

[golden bear]

My transcript does not have abstract algebra

[golden bear]

like review some of the material taught at an undergraduate level Algebra.

[quick hornet]

perhaps we're using different definitions

how are you defining "review"?

I assumed this definition:

view or inspect for a second time or again.
"all slides were then reviewed by one pathologist"

i see no other definition in google dictionary that seems to fit your intention

[golden bear]

I think of review as a short introduction of the material. So that way I can have some knowledge of the terms and such.

[quick hornet]

perhaps you meant "overview"?

in that case, then sure

the VDW series can be skimmed for a solid overview

[golden bear]

Overview sounds good

what chapters should I focus on? I was thinking of the first four

[quick hornet]

i dont know anything about stillwell

[golden bear]

alright

[quick hornet]

besides its table of contents being screwey

what are you going to be doing in grad school?

[golden bear]

What about van der waerden?

[quick hornet]

its a classic but is pedagogically dated

i wouldnt consider it a good source for a first learner

but if you just want a reference text to understand the definitions and common problems we care about

its fine

(its intended for grad students who already have a bit of familiarity with algebra)

[golden bear]

I'm going for a masters in math and the program I am going to offers complex and algebra this Fall.

[quick hornet]

pure math, id take it?

in that case, my recommendation would be as much as possible

[golden bear]

the program is mix with applied and pure

[quick hornet]

but at least the first 5 chapters

[golden bear]

They going to teach stats

[quick hornet]

exept maybe omit chapter 4

its not crucial if you already know rigorous LA

[golden bear]

StillWall the first five chapters?

[quick hornet]

VDW

[golden bear]

oh

[quick hornet]

you can also probably skip chapter 1

id also recommend reading chapter 7

the others arent crucial

but 2, 3, 5, 7, familiarity with vector spaces

are what id consider the core algebraic backbone of an upper undergrad/early masters student

[gray gazelle]

What subject u talking of?

[quick hornet]

van der waerdens algebra

toc

(copy-pasted from amazon preview, not piracy, dont nuke me discord admins)

[gray gazelle]

Is that similar to contents of algebra by lang

[quick hornet]

like the first half of lang

ish

van der waerden comes in 2 parts and they only have pt 1

[golden bear]

is chapter 4 good if you forgot about LA?

[gray gazelle]

Someone recommended me algebra by Lang when I said i wanted to refresh my algebra, but I meant hs algebra

Lol

[quick hornet]

sure, it can be a good refresher

[golden bear]

🙂

[quick hornet]

up to like 4.5

the tensor stuff is low priority

[golden bear]

what about 6?

chapter 6

[quick hornet]

not high priority, mostly buildup to galois theory

knowing stuff like what a root of unity is is certainly a good idea though

[golden bear]

SO I have Chapter 1, 2,3, 4 (up to 4.5), 5 and 7

[quick hornet]

(an nth root of unity is a solution to z^n = 1; there exist precisely n in ℂ for each n)

[golden bear]

I will learn that in complex

[gray gazelle]

Why don't u read it all

[quick hornet]

again, thats what id consider the minimum working knowledge

if you can do more, do more

[gray gazelle]

No harm in learning all of it

The more u learn the better

[golden bear]

I don't want to stress myself and being burn out by August

Also, health is important too.

[gray gazelle]

U have a deadline?

[golden bear]

I don't have a deadline

[gray gazelle]

Then just go at it slowly and take break days

[golden bear]

Yea, I am starting like June 6

[gray gazelle]

Do u have to kno it by a certain date

[golden bear]

Not really. It would be nice to get to 4.5 by July 26 or so

[gray gazelle]

Then take ur time and learn it all

[left crown]

Can someone recommend me a good trigonometry book?

I am in the 9th grade from Romania(( choose the hardest type of math that I could

[gray gazelle]

Search this channel with "in:book-recommendations trigonometry book"

[crude iris]

Plane Trigonometry
by SL loney

[narrow talon]

Is there a set of lectures available online for grad PDEs? Just to follow along with Evans

[craggy imp]

what is your pde's consisted of?

[narrow talon]

just basic existence, uniqueness, and regularity results of elliptic and parabolic PDEs

I like Brezis a lot and have read enough to not be somewhat comfortable with Sobolev spaces but that’s all

[slim peak]

I you want to look at abstract and Kernel methods for Parabolic pdes Ouhabaz's book "Analysis of Heat Equation on Domains" is a very good one

[narrow talon]

Sure, sounds a bit more advanced than basic PDE theory but Ill trust your rec

[slim peak]

You don't need other stuff than basics of semigroup theory, and basic Sobolev Spaces knowledge. Notice also the above book deals with semigroup theory almost from scratch using accretive sesquilinear forms (then later in the book it is given some sufficients conditions to extends the involved semigroup on Lp using almost full abstract Functional Analysis arguments)

[narrow talon]

👍 thanks! That’ll probably be most useful for me then

[hearty steppe]

After a quick skim through Chen’s Napkin it would be hard for me to recommend it to high schoolers. Maybe gifted high schoolers that maybe did some Olympiad but if you don’t fall into that category, save yourself from using it as first exposure. Seems like a good reference read or something to reflect back on after learning a bit of modern algebra

[narrow talon]

Is this available somewhere on the 7 seas?

[slim peak]

libgen

probably

[narrow talon]

Weird, I searched the text name and found nothing, but searching the author worked. My bad

[analog pollen]

Any recommendations for a book on diff eq and linear algebra?

That are good

[gray gazelle]

hirsch smale

[slim peak]

almost always like this for me

[warm glen]

if you're looking for texts that cater to wider audiences instead of proof heavy texts, i think the diff eq book by nagle, saff, and snider and the linear algebra book by lay are both good options

the explanations in both are pretty easy to follow

[vagrant sedge]

Hi. I have taken a first course in linear algebra (twice actually) using Hoffman & Kunze. I was looking for a material good for self-study that would serve as a course after that which was focused on preparing for a more numerical methods/analysis and optimization sort of use of linear algebra. Any recommendations? I have "Matrix Analysis" by Horn and Johnson in mind. What do you guys think?

[willow pecan]

For numerical linear algebra, I would suggest either Demmel or Trefethen and Bau

These are the two standard texts on the subject

[warm glen]

has anyone read "geometric approach to differential forms" by bachman

it seems cool

and has very few prereqs

[pale scarab]

Any good math blogs to check out that are not geared at professional mathematicians? I know tao is quite popular but many of his posts go way over my head

[manic fox]

good question actually

[broken meadow]

undergraduate math blog when

[vapid scroll]

math3ma,lolialgebra,mean green math

[remote ginkgo]

i read this, and really enjoyed it.

but honestly

i have to recommend shifrin's multivariable mathematics or spivak's calc on manifolds for a more complete intro to the subject

bachman is a really good primer though

[warm glen]

nice that's cool

ty for the info

i been looking for stuff like bachman that i could self study without too much stress over the summer

[pale scarab]

math3ma looks good so far since I have been into category theory the last year I'm going to have to check out her book also which looks interesting.

[broken meadow]

lolialgebra

what

scary

[livid ermine]

Have anyone read the book Combinatorics and Graph Theory by Harris?

Is it any good as an undergrad combinatorics book?

[buoyant eagle]

Can anybody recommend a book on dynamical systems? I'm a researcher in epidemiological applications of agent-based network models and I have a degree in math, but I've never so much as opened a book on dynamical systems.

In return I offer this

I'd be interested in both theoretical and applied approaches. Bonus points if it includes graph dynamics.

[willow pecan]

Strogatz has a book on nonlinear dynamics

[sudden kindle]

Ah the memes

[obsidian valley]

what is the best book to learn do Carmo content from

is it do Carmo

or shifrin

or osmething else

tteppa

[gray gazelle]

curves and surfaces, or riemannian geometry?

[gray gazelle]

Any good books on numerical analysis?

[willow pecan]

What sort of numerical analysis?

If you want numerical linear algebra, either Demmel or Trefethen and Bau

For ODEs/PDEs, Iserles has a book

LeVeque has a few as well

[obsidian valley]

curves and surfaces, sorry

I was told I can waive the pre-req for geometric analysis & relativity

but i need to get some diff geo knowledge

[gray gazelle]

I was just looking for a general introduction, but these look nice! Thank you

(If you know of any general introductions, though, please do tell)

[willow pecan]

I don't know of any good general introductions

[sage python]

@obsidian valley waive the curves/surfaces prereq for those two? I mean just do the book the class uses probably

[obsidian valley]

No sorry it's one course

called Geometric Analysis & Relativity

[sage python]

Ah

[obsidian valley]

the pre-req book is do Carmo

but I have a choice

[sage python]

Honestly my impression is that it's the correct™️ book for that content lol

[obsidian valley]

so I'm wondering if something does do Carmo better

[sage python]

I don't like Shifrin

[obsidian valley]

hm okay I think I will use do Carmo

[sage python]

There might be others but it seems do Carmo is common and I dislike the one alternative I know so yeah lol

[last cloud]

Hello people, I just started delving into Machine Learning. Any recommendations for Linear Algebra books which will be relevant ?

[willow pecan]

You should first learn linear algebra with Friedberg's book

Then you should learn numerical linear algebra with either Demmel or Trefethen and Bau

[buoyant eagle]

"Coding the Matrix: Linear Algebra through Applications to Computer Science" is also quite good

[last cloud]

How is Sheldon Axler's book ?

[buoyant eagle]

beautiful

Both aesthetically and pedagogically imo

[willow pecan]

Axler is not that good

[last cloud]

Thanks, will check it out

[willow pecan]

The presentation of characteristic polynomials and determinants is lacking

[gray gazelle]

"lacking"

you can be honest

[willow pecan]

[hasty turret]

Axler also causally assumes choice

[willow pecan]

Casually

Choice is not a big deal in applied subjects

[buoyant eagle]

I should add the caveat that when I read math books I'll read multiple on a subject using a hub and spoke type model- one friendly and readable book to give motivation to the subject and foundational knowledge (hub) and others for different perspectives and coverage. Once I move through a topic in the hub book it makes all the other (potentially less readable) books much easier. So in that context Axler is a good "hub" for LA imo.

[hasty turret]

True

[willow pecan]

Because unless you're doing QM, everything is finite dimensional

[quick hornet]

choice doesnt matter in applied subjects because the cases where you need choice never arise

and choice just makes theorems for those cases line up with theorems for more finitary cases

so it only really cleans up theorem statements

with no real downside

choice doesnt matter in pure subjects because everyone accepts it anyway

so who cares

its coconsistent with zf and thats enough for me

[sage python]

Even if you're doing QM aren't you gonna likely stick to separable Hilbert spaces?

Anyway for the most part nobody really cares about choice. I honestly don't buy the philosophical problems people have with it even in general, and regardless in any reasonable applied setting there's no real question lol

Problem with Axler is that he teaches you how to think about char polys and determinants like a moron

[quick hornet]

the philosophical objections are valid since its a weird axiom relative to the ZF ones

so its at least worth thinking about

the philosophical consensus is almost overwhelingly "yeah its fine" unless you also reject like

the axiom of infinity or LEM

[sage python]

Or I guess I don't mean on a logical level so much as... idk surprising things are true in life yeah?

And I'd wager that choice is sorta "obviously true" and makes a lot of things work

[quick hornet]

which seems to me like a reasonable interpretation

choice is worth thinking about

but when you think about it

[sage python]

The bizarre consequences then just become facts of life

[quick hornet]

its not that weird

cartesian products of nonempty sets ARE nonempty, mom

[sage python]

Well when I say "buy the philosophical problems" I don't mean "Shut up and accept it" so much as

If you end up disagreeing with it I will give you a lot of side-eye

[quick hornet]

i maintain that the real problem with choice is actually power set

[sage python]

Sleeps_irl

[quick hornet]

and you should weaken power set before choice

fixes literally all the counterintuitive shit

alas

[sage python]

I mean life has counterintuitive shit lmao. Like I guess Banach-Tarski is the most commonly cited thing right?

To me it's just... yeah R is a big and very fucky set

So big that SO(3) contains a copy of the free group

[willow pecan]

Reals don't exist

Only rationals

[sage python]

Tbh you could prob make a case that thanks to Planck length or something, R isn't really a "physical" object, and so Banach-Tarski isn't a physical phenomenon

Back on topic though: yeah don't use Axler, not because of choice since that's not a problem, but because char poly and determinant

Friedberg is probably the correct intro to linear algebra nowadays tbh. I like Hoffman-Kunze but it's old school

[smoky surge]

i liked axler

it was the second time i went through LA though

[static crest]

axler kekw

[gray gazelle]

Best calc 1 and calc 2 book?

[static crest]

spivak

[gray gazelle]

thx

[tulip blade]

uh Spivak is good but it is mostly proof-based and requires a decent amount of maturity.

[storm sleet]

Best introduction to module theory?

[gray gazelle]

Okay but is it still the best calc book overall?

[flint forge]

define best

[tulip blade]

There is no best calc book. It is the best for SOME people but for others it would be a horrible choice. Why are you learning calc and what are you goals @gray gazelle

[flint forge]

spivak is the best book for a potential math major for sure

[tulip blade]

This

[gray gazelle]

Something with all the topics and necessary info to have a good understanding of calculus. Preferably better than the average calc student

[flint forge]

but idk if its the best if all you want is to compute integrals quickly

yeah it depends on what you wanna understand

like if the “why” matters

[gray gazelle]

Simply put I wanna kno more calc than my peers who r also taking calc 1 and calc 2

[flint forge]

spivak

[tulip blade]

Then try stewarts book

[flint forge]

spivak is a solid choice but thats a not great motivation hahaha

[broken meadow]

what is "more"

lmao

like

[tulip blade]

Something like transcendentals

[flint forge]

lmao

[broken meadow]

do you want to know how to compute more integrals or

[gray gazelle]

I mean i wanna know all calc 1 and 2 b4 I move on

[flint forge]

just learn a bunch of dumb set theory and you can flex nonsense

[gray gazelle]

I just mean I wanna do well in my calc class

[broken meadow]

become a hs category theorist

or ug

[flint forge]

yeah spivak is a good choice but honestly

[broken meadow]

whatever

[flint forge]

basically any textbook

will be fine

for hs

like if you can do all the problems

[gray gazelle]

And I wanna understand calc well

[flint forge]

in any standard calc book

youll be fine

[broken meadow]

when i was practicing calculus the textbook i did practice problems from was stewarts calc book (any of them)

[tulip blade]

Spivak would be very difficult. Most ppl ik who used it already took a discrete math class

[broken meadow]

i went to the section labeled "problems plus"

it was nice

[karmic thorn]

The problem sets from MIT OCW's single variable calculus course are very good.

[gray gazelle]

I just realized how this sounds

I just meant I wanna know it and understand it well

[flint forge]

i think you are too worried about book choice

[gray gazelle]

Better than the average person

[flint forge]

if you pick a book and hate it

then whatever find a new one

but youll be fine w basically any choice

[broken meadow]

im not really sure you know what you want well enough to determine if a certain book is more fitting for you than another

[gray gazelle]

I heard Courant is also good

[broken meadow]

because "better understanding" is vague

like spivak will help you understand some theory better is what i hear

[gray gazelle]

I took calc but I still feel like i don't fully understand it

I took ap calc

[sage python]

I mean the problem is "being good" is vague

[flint forge]

then do spivak

[sage python]

You can be an integral monster

Or you can know the theory

[broken meadow]

right if you've already taken ap calc i see no reason to do stewart

[sage python]

If you wanna know the theory then Spivak is the objectively correct answer

[broken meadow]

you're not going to learn anything new

go with spivak then like max suggested

[gray gazelle]

Alr then I'll check that out

[sage python]

If you're more interested in computations but really getting good at them then... honestly any calc book works. Stewart at its sticker price isn't worth it. Tbh it's more at that point about practice problems than books

[gray gazelle]

Is there a book u prefer

Some books would have better problems tho or even more problems

[flint forge]

spivak for theory , lots of problems for computations

from various books

just prte them

shoot

[tulip blade]

Just use spivaks calculus on manifolds

[flint forge]

p*rate

[tulip blade]

\s

[broken meadow]

yes

i mean

No!

[sage python]

You can find problems online. Stewart if you can get a used copy or [REDACTED FOR TOS] is probably good but no calc book is worth $200 lmao

[broken meadow]

i can't condone piracy here

!

[flint forge]

who said piracy

[broken meadow]

i mean uh

[flint forge]

i meant parote

[broken meadow]

parote.

[flint forge]

porate*

[sage python]

How dare you

[broken meadow]

yes you should keep that as a secret

[gray gazelle]

I guess for problems I can just find different books and do those problems

[tulip blade]

@lucid yew

[sage python]

Yup

So if you wanna get good at problem solving do that

[gray gazelle]

But for theory spivak is good

[flint forge]

i will also say that like

[sage python]

Exactly

[flint forge]

honestly

youre probably a bit too anxious about this

[gray gazelle]

Alr thx

[broken meadow]

breathe

[flint forge]

unless ur training for an integral bee or something

calc 1/2 isnt that scary if you like math and are willing to do the work

[gray gazelle]

It's becuz I don't want to have difficulty understanding math later on

[flint forge]

Well

i suck at calc

and i am accepted for a phd

so

[gray gazelle]

Really?

[flint forge]

youll be fjne

fine*

[tulip blade]

Calc is dum

[sage python]

Linear algebra, on the other hand...

[broken meadow]

i never did spivak and no one cares how well i understood calc 1/2 material

well

[tulip blade]

Spivak is kinda like baby analusis

[sage python]

Metal prove the mean value theorem right now or I'll make you do a backflip

[broken meadow]

at least that's what i perceive

uhhh

[gray gazelle]

I didn't understand trig well so I had tuff time with calc regarding those sections,, so I don't wanna have any issues with not understanding calc well

[broken meadow]

rolles theoem but u do cute subtraction

[gray gazelle]

I also didn't understand some specific advanced algebra topics

[broken meadow]

idk 💀

im gonna learn all these things in real analysis right

[gray gazelle]

?

[sage python]

Honestly there's a pretty easy flowchart for how to prove things

[broken meadow]

oh i was responding to daminark earlier human

[sage python]

The key point is intermediate and extreme value theorems

[flint forge]

1. ask your advisor

2. give up

[gray gazelle]

Is analysis the same thing as calc? I looked it up and it said it includes differentiation, integration, series, etc..

[sage python]

That takes either some pain or some topology

But once you know that it's like

[broken meadow]

it is not the same

[flint forge]

its about proving why things work in calc and putting everything on a rigorous foundation

[sage python]

So there aren't clearly defined boundaries here

[tulip blade]

We know what it is

[sage python]

Some people say calculus is just analysis without proofs

[broken meadow]

well that kinda makes sense but like even then analysis has so many things you won't see in a calc class

[sage python]

To me analysis is a broad subject, calculus is the part that's concerned with computations of derivatives and integrals

[flint forge]

yeah it goes further

[tulip blade]

Depends what you mean

[flint forge]

turns out if you dont spend months calculating convoluted integrals

you can actually learn

some math

[gray gazelle]

Could someone just skip calc and do analysis?

[flint forge]

yeah

[tulip blade]

Yea

[flint forge]

it would be hard

[gray gazelle]

Thay makes sense

[flint forge]

but doable in theory

[tulip blade]

Just use spivak

[sage python]

Depends on your definitions, to me calculus is part of analysis. So at some point in an analysis class, if it's self-contained

[golden bear]

Yes, but is better to understand some of the basic concepts then do analysis.

[golden bear]

nah.

[gray gazelle]

Calc is more like a warm up

Analysis is the actual run

[flint forge]

sure

[tulip blade]

If theyre interested in analysis spivak isnt a bad choice. They have computational problems too

[sage python]

You'll learn theorems like product/chain/quotient rule, u-sub, etc

[gray gazelle]

I kno how to do those

[sage python]

That will come up in a self-contained analysis class and I'd consider that to be "calculus content"

[flint forge]

nah

[golden bear]

Assuming you're a high schooler @gray gazelle ?

[flint forge]

dami

these are broke ass defns

[gray gazelle]

Yes

Wbu?

[golden bear]

9th?

[flint forge]

analysis is a matter of perspective not material imo

[gray gazelle]

Dam no

12

They don't teach calc at 9th here

You'd have to test out of classes or self study for that

[flint forge]

almost no one learns calc that young

dw

[golden bear]

Usually on this server, you have 6th graders do analysis

[flint forge]

thats so false

[sage python]

Usually?

[gray gazelle]

Fr

[broken meadow]

jesus calculus in the 9th grade

[sage python]

There's like

[flint forge]

and also perpetuates an already unhealthy narrative

[tulip blade]

Theyre joking

[sage python]

< 5 people here who know calc in 9th grade

[flint forge]

that causes young people here to have pointless an iety

[flint forge]

these jokes have genuinely caused hs kids on here to be worried about only being 2 years ahead of their peers lol

[gray gazelle]

Yea when I was younger and i read about terence tao I thought u had to be like him to be a mathematician lol

[golden bear]

But in the USA. to get into college. you have to start taking rigorous courses in middle school

[broken meadow]

no

that's just wrong

[sage python]

That's kinda bullshit lmao

[flint forge]

this is also false

[sage python]

I learned calculus poorly in high school and only learned it well in college

[tulip blade]

I never took calc in high school

[flint forge]

killerwhale you should stop talking about things you dont know anything about

its not good to misinform young ppl

[broken meadow]

im in college??? i didnt think of math at all until the last year of highschool and honestly i could have just left it at that

[sage python]

Like when I took the calculus placement exam in college I only placed out of one quarter of calculus

[flint forge]

i never took anything past ap calc in ha

hs

[gray gazelle]

Yea i've learned calc poorly as well so I'm going to spend some time strengthening it during the summer

[golden bear]

then I don't know why high schoolers are eager to start proofs in high school

[sage python]

Aka I knew differentiation well enough but not integration

[broken meadow]

???

[flint forge]

interest?

[sage python]

And I went to a pretty good school, did well while there

[golden bear]

no to draw attention

[gray gazelle]

no one could possibly be interested in math, ever

[flint forge]

lmao

so cynical

[broken meadow]

that seems like a really unsound generalization

lmfao

[sage python]

Killer's just full of shit lmao

[gray gazelle]

Same I don't kno definite integration well

[golden bear]

nah

[sage python]

Yeah human I'm sure your progress is just fine

[flint forge]

u r embarassing urself @golden bear

@gray gazelle ur chillin

[gray gazelle]

Thx

[tulip blade]

Yea human never mentioned proofs we mentioned spivak tbh

[sage python]

Again I didn't know the definition of the integral until college lol

I thought it was just antiderivative evaluated at endpoints

[flint forge]

lol

[broken meadow]

it be liek that

[golden bear]

oof. I guess I will be a bad TA this Fall in grad school

[gray gazelle]

I don't remember the definition either but isn't it just the area under the curve

[sage python]

Oh no

Yeah you're probably gonna be trash lmfao

[gray gazelle]

i bought nitro so htat means i can sully bomb

[flint forge]

as someone who will also be a TA this fall in grad school: yes absolutely you sound like a horrific TA

[gray gazelle]

Dam 🤣

[broken meadow]

you are free to sullybomb

[manic fox]

rigorous courses

[sage python]

Speaking of TAing

[golden bear]

I'm sorry to hear that. I mean I care more about my health than math. Health > Math.

[sage python]

That's good

[flint forge]

I dont see how thats related

so do I

[manic fox]

[gray gazelle]

[manic fox]

society if

[broken meadow]

this is rich coming from someone who is feeding anxiety inducing nonsense

[flint forge]

i care more about most things than math

[sage python]

Wait all mentally healthy people assume that high schoolers learning proof-based math is virtue signaling

[gray gazelle]

Health is important becuz it can keep ur brain healthy and able to do math

[sage python]

Max this is common knowledge

[flint forge]

shoo

shoot

[karmic thorn]

Well, they take Algebra 1 in middle school.

[manic fox]

[sage python]

They take Basic Algebra in middle school

[broken meadow]

im taking algebra 1 this fall i must be horribly behind

[tulip blade]

Algebra 1 is a grad class at my school ffs

[karmic thorn]

[flint forge]

my goal is to be

[gray gazelle]

i took multivariable analysis in my second year of schooling, catch up guys!!!!

[flint forge]

a B+ TA

like

i wont be the best

[manic fox]

oh wow

[flint forge]

or even that good

[golden bear]

Even if I am a bad TA. The only difference between TA and a student is has to grade. TA are still students and will have bad days. Unless you are uncomfortable with that then maybe TA isn't going to be good for you

[manic fox]

yes bro

[sage python]

All of UChicago's undergrad course titles are so condescending

[manic fox]

people under 18 doing proofs is just virtue signaling

[sage python]

"Basic Complex Variables"
"Probability for those who don't know how to wipe their ass"

[gray gazelle]

Couldn't anyone theoretically learn calc very early if they know the prerequisites?

And even other math

[karmic thorn]

Ah, must be taught out of Jacobson.

[sage python]

In principle

[tulip blade]

Republicans just made it illegal to do proofs under 18

[sage python]

I think when you learn calculus is largely random in a way

[manic fox]

yeah but like ive found u need to have maturity otherwise to do some stuff

[sage python]

Like some people look it up on Google young and are like :0 this is dank

[willow pecan]

r2t2 simps for discord

[sage python]

And get into it

[flint forge]

i tried to self teach young

[sage python]

Other people just stumble upon it when they take a class on it

[flint forge]

but got bored

[golden bear]

The rush to calculus is real in high school. Why rush to calculus?

[manic fox]

like you only begin appreciating things once you spend a little longer with the defns n stuff

[flint forge]

in my defense

[gray gazelle]

If my school didn't spend so much time reteaching previous years and teaching stuff that didn't take long I'm sure everyone could've learned calc in 10th instead of 12th

[manic fox]

Based. Teach hsers algebra

[flint forge]

calc is boring

[sage python]

Killer depends on what you mean by "why"

Why do students rush? Why does education frontload calculus?

[flint forge]

rush to calc is commonly frowned upon here and discussed in #math-pedagogy

[manic fox]

i have that channel muted

[gray gazelle]

By reteaching I mean they spend a month teaching content from previous year

[manic fox]

😌

[sage python]

Students tend to rush to calculus because either they just like math and that's the standard accelerated math path

[tulip blade]

My school disnt offer ap calc we only had higher topos theory instead

[sage python]

Or they're told that to get into a good college they need to have AP everything

[manic fox]

math path

mathpath not to be confused with matpat

[golden bear]

They rush because they think is a good approach into getting top schools. Every school thinks taking calculus 1 in high school will prepare them

[flint forge]

lurie should do a stint at a highschool

just for the meme

[sage python]

Which is an unfortunate phenomenon but it happens

[manic fox]

tfw knowing how to differentiate polynomials = good indicator of success

[sage python]

A lot of people in the calc classes I TA did some kind of AP in high school

[willow pecan]

Calculus is also useful in a lot of science and engineering disciplines

[sage python]

Now I actually thought AP was kinda pathetic because it's like, you're taking Calc 1 which is supposed to correspond to AB Calculus

And yet you're having a hard time

[manic fox]

killer u know what you should do

[broken meadow]

yeah i mean it makes sense that they want to learn calculus cus of stuff like physics and chem maybe

but like

[manic fox]

consider some tteppa

[gray gazelle]

First semester of ap calc was pretty ez

[broken meadow]

idk maybe they should focus on teaching the regular math correclty before rushing kids to calc

halfassedly

[karmic thorn]

The same is true of linear algebra, and surprisingly it doesn't see the same enthusiasm.

[tulip blade]

I rushed to do calc bc i thouught it was the end all be all

[golden bear]

High school calculus $\neq$ college calculus

[manic fox]

wtf ted is mod

[hasty eagle]

KillerWhale2498

[sage python]

Tbf UW's calc class is non-trivial but yeah I thought AP was just lol. Then I looked at some free response questions from the AP exam and tbh they don't seem like the worst

[tulip blade]

Then i stopped once i learned other math existed

[karmic thorn]

Good morning.

[manic fox]

cringe moderation team

[sage python]

Manan: I have actually said I'd rather frontload linear algebra than calculus

[karmic thorn]

I agree.

[broken meadow]

ap linear algebra when

[flint forge]

i would frontload stats

[manic fox]

ap category theory

[karmic thorn]

Why so?

[flint forge]

more important to have a vaguely data literate society

[broken meadow]

i also think stats is honestly more worthwhile

[tulip blade]

I would frontload machine learning and data science

[flint forge]

than linalg

[manic fox]

[tulip blade]

Jk thats cringe

[broken meadow]

statistical thinking is so important nowadays

[manic fox]

stats is a pain

[tulip blade]

Id front load combinatorics tbh

[manic fox]

if you do it wrong it's going to like

🤮

[broken meadow]

at least for stuff on the news and all

[manic fox]

be terrible

[karmic thorn]

I'm currently taking stats and the subject is super interesting, but it is already assuming a theory-heavy calculus/analysis background.

[flint forge]

like being able to understand expected value, basic probability, how to read graphs and look for manipulation in fitting

[broken meadow]

its scary how much data is presented oddly

[golden bear]

I never took stats

[sage python]

MaxJ that's true, I guess I mean that I think linear algebra should be the default "I want to accelerate in math" choice

[flint forge]

are all wayyyyy more important

than linalg

for most pol

[manic fox]

ok

[broken meadow]

right dami

[sage python]

While data literacy should be more "basic high school graduation requirement"

[broken meadow]

right

[flint forge]

sure

fuck it kill precalc and calc do both

[broken meadow]

lol

[manic fox]

[karmic thorn]

++++heuristics about studies such as correlation, association, confounding factors can be stressed so that people think twice before accepting information.

[sage python]

I have no clue what precalc entails but tbh sure

[broken meadow]

precalc is just like

polynomials and trig

or something

idk

i didn't learn anything in precalc

[golden bear]

Algebra is everything.

[broken meadow]

end me

[tulip blade]

Precalc is galois theory

Polynomials and stuff

[flint forge]

precalc is commonly described as preparing you for the algebraic/analytic manipulations youll need in calc

but without any reason to it

[broken meadow]

oh yeah

conic sections

[sage python]

That sounds boring lol

[broken meadow]

why did i even learn conic sections

[flint forge]

it sucks

[flint forge]

for the GRE

[broken meadow]

literally only used conic sections for obscure integrals in calc 3

[karmic thorn]

Kindergarteners are combinatorists.

[sage python]

My high school math last two years was weird

[broken meadow]

WhAT

[tulip blade]

Fuck im not taking the gre

[broken meadow]

the GRE 😭

[tulip blade]

Only general 😎

[karmic thorn]

Ooofffff

[sage python]

It was IB Math which had 6 topics

[golden bear]

I never took the math GRE

[flint forge]

metal theres a healthy chance youll never have to

[broken meadow]

never have to what

[karmic thorn]

Why should I know what the eccentricity of a weird conic section is

[tulip blade]

That moment when you switch to cs theory to avoid math subject gre

[flint forge]

take the mGRE

[golden bear]

2.95 GPA got into a masters with TA. I mean anything can be possible

[flint forge]

assuming youre interested in math idk

[willow pecan]

Lots of schools are getting rid of gre requirements

[broken meadow]

math gre?

oh

yeah i heard it was a shitty test

with like

[tulip blade]

Just dont feel like wasting time on it tbh

[broken meadow]

integral tricks and nonsense

[flint forge]

schools are killing it

covid helped

[broken meadow]

i don't really want to do the mgre

[golden bear]

I still need to take the gen GRE if I want to apply to a PhD program

[willow pecan]

Michigan probably isn't bringing it back as a requirement

[tulip blade]

My friend got into cornell this cycle and he wouldve done horrible on the mgre

[sage python]

Some "algebra" (binomial coefficients), "functions" (graph of f(x+a) relative to graph of f(x)), trig, 3D vector geometry, stats, calculus, and an optional topic which your teacher chooses, either more stats, more calculus, discrete math, or "sets, relations, and groups"

[tulip blade]

Shows that it doesnt mean a lot

[flint forge]

i wouldve had to study a lot for it

luckily didnt have to

thanks covid

[golden bear]

Grad admissions is random.