#book-recommendations | Mathematics | Page 221

golden salmon Jan 19, 2021, 8:41 PM

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what is

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maybe volume 1

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but not volume 2

rare star Jan 20, 2021, 12:31 AM

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hello, anyone has a book recommendation for discrete maths and complex numbers?

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theres no books in #books-old

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about those subjects in particular

gray gazelle Jan 20, 2021, 12:36 AM

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complex numbers

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ahlfors

quick hornet Jan 20, 2021, 12:36 AM

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sully

gray gazelle Jan 20, 2021, 12:36 AM

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hypersully

valid moth Jan 20, 2021, 1:09 AM

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timber mesa Jan 20, 2021, 1:09 AM

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valid moth Jan 20, 2021, 4:23 AM

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gray gazelle Jan 20, 2021, 4:44 AM

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discrete maths
Concrete Mathematics

valid moth Jan 20, 2021, 6:00 AM

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muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 7:05 AM

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this stack was free :D

storm sleet Jan 20, 2021, 7:07 AM

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Solid stack

hearty steppe Jan 20, 2021, 8:25 AM

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Aye not bad

civic python Jan 20, 2021, 8:47 AM

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Each of my math books is as thick as that stack is high.

hasty turret Jan 20, 2021, 8:47 AM

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What books do you have?

prisma snow Jan 20, 2021, 8:48 AM

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Free? Where do I go for free math books? Someone sign me up blob_cry

civic python Jan 20, 2021, 8:48 AM

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jk

prisma snow Jan 20, 2021, 9:16 AM

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Wow

tropic lion Jan 20, 2021, 9:36 AM

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imagine having books lmao

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why so many mechanics books?

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you a mechE?

gray gazelle Jan 20, 2021, 10:13 AM

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hmmm

graceful bridge Jan 20, 2021, 2:44 PM

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I have 339 math books in my library 😎

amber lake Jan 20, 2021, 2:55 PM

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any suggestion for matrix analysis books

graceful bridge Jan 20, 2021, 2:56 PM

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Horn/Johnson for sure is the bible

amber lake Jan 20, 2021, 3:00 PM

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okay thanks I got it

graceful bridge Jan 20, 2021, 3:00 PM

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I also have Zhang - Matrix theory in my library, looks possibly more readable, and much shorter

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But Horn/Johnson I got recommended by a professor who works in matrix theory

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It's possible that H&J is best suited as a reference

amber lake Jan 20, 2021, 3:05 PM

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My professor recommended the same book as you suggested. But i was facing some problem reading it. I will look for Zhang.
Thanks

graceful bridge Jan 20, 2021, 3:06 PM

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Yes, I think I will start with Zhang myself when Im gonna learn more matrix theory/analysis

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Use H&J as a supplement when needed

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:11 PM

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tropic lion why so many mechanics books?

was kinda a lucky dip

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only one of them is strictly engineering mechanics though

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i am high schooler

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:13 PM

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prisma snow Free? Where do I go for free math books? Someone sign me up <:blob_cry:615615911...

follow the blog of an ex mathematician who accidentally inherits a few hundred and very generously decides to give them all away

karmic thorn Jan 20, 2021, 4:13 PM

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catThink

prisma snow Jan 20, 2021, 4:13 PM

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Wow

graceful bridge Jan 20, 2021, 4:15 PM

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@prisma snow University library for physical books. Libgen for digital books.

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:15 PM

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https://i2.wp.com/mathematicalcrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/books-all-scaled.jpg?w=1280&ssl=1

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there were quite a few

prisma snow Jan 20, 2021, 4:15 PM

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Wow, thanks. Didn't know I could check out books from the library and just never return them.

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:16 PM

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I'd love to get a university library membership if they weren't exorbitant prices for non students

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which I guess makes sense

dapper root Jan 20, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Wtf is “a course of higher mathematics”?

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:16 PM

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Russian (translated) university sequence

dapper root Jan 20, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Huh

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That’s potentially really good

graceful bridge Jan 20, 2021, 4:17 PM

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I can rent books for a year, which is usually more than enough. But varies from place to place of course

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:17 PM

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Calc 1 and intro analysis through linear algebra, group theory, DEs/PDEs, functional analysis

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meant to be math/theophys targeted, I did request it but was outreasoned for its potential personal value

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which is fair

silver herald Jan 20, 2021, 4:18 PM

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Interesting....How much did you get these books for?

graceful bridge Jan 20, 2021, 4:18 PM

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And if I need to look up something Ive read later, I would argue that a digital pdf is even easier for that purpose

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:19 PM

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the dozen I got? were free, the big rows of them all was the collection distributed to those who sought it out, me and many others

karmic thorn Jan 20, 2021, 4:19 PM

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I've found that PDFs are good for quick reference and lookup, but straining for longer hours.

graceful bridge Jan 20, 2021, 4:19 PM

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Yes, can't disagree with that

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Depends somewhat on what screen you use though

karmic thorn Jan 20, 2021, 4:20 PM

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Fair. A part of the blame goes to the fact that I can get distracted more easily on the screen. 😛

graceful bridge Jan 20, 2021, 4:21 PM

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Ye sure, the newest iPads have a very pleasing screen. You could turn off internet

silver herald Jan 20, 2021, 4:21 PM

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Nice.

graceful bridge Jan 20, 2021, 4:21 PM

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Or even turn off the router in your house 😆

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:21 PM

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i anticipated that message doom

karmic thorn Jan 20, 2021, 4:21 PM

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Lmao, fair.

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:21 PM

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😠

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20 seconds per letter, smh

silver herald Jan 20, 2021, 4:23 PM

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I was planning to type more regrading the books I want to buy soon since I am seeing the need to do more reference stuff for my upcoming projects and potential research stuff.

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but I refrained

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:23 PM

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you should if you want, many nerds about here

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will be over my head though

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they don't have amicablethink here and that's why Phys disc is superior

hasty turret Jan 20, 2021, 4:24 PM

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You guys don't have hmmm

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Or thonkzoom

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Or sully

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:25 PM

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I'm pretty sure we have sully

silver herald Jan 20, 2021, 4:26 PM

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We lost sully a few weeks back due to our boosts falling off, otter

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:26 PM

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oh

hasty turret Jan 20, 2021, 4:26 PM

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Not high enough server level

muted hearth Jan 20, 2021, 4:26 PM

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I would boost but I fucked up nitro redemption

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well we kept amicable so I am satisfied

silver herald Jan 20, 2021, 4:32 PM

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catGlad

gray gazelle Jan 20, 2021, 4:39 PM

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hmmm

hasty turret Jan 20, 2021, 4:39 PM

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hmmm

sudden granite Jan 20, 2021, 5:04 PM

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hmmm

coarse thunder Jan 20, 2021, 7:46 PM

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hmmm

sudden granite Jan 20, 2021, 8:53 PM

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hmmm

gray gazelle Jan 20, 2021, 9:04 PM

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hmmmshrink

static crest Jan 20, 2021, 9:06 PM

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why is the gif pepe a lighter green

timber mesa Jan 20, 2021, 9:57 PM

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maybe because a gif's color palette is limited

static crest Jan 20, 2021, 9:58 PM

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that's too different I feel

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but idk

valid moth Jan 21, 2021, 12:12 AM

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static crest that's too different I feel

insert physics explanation due to movement and color perception

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oh right doppler effect

static crest Jan 21, 2021, 12:12 AM

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wot

valid moth Jan 21, 2021, 12:12 AM

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the pepe is lighter green because the pepe is moving away from you

karmic thorn Jan 21, 2021, 3:07 AM

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Redshift hyperthonk

hasty turret Jan 21, 2021, 3:08 AM

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Greenshift

jagged palm Jan 21, 2021, 3:46 AM

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muted hearth https://i2.wp.com/mathematicalcrap.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/books-all-scal...

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peak geode Jan 21, 2021, 8:36 AM

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Hello, is the book "things to make and do in fourth dimension" factually correct?

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how is the book reviewed by the community?

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im very excited to read it!

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 9:09 AM

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Never heard of it. My golden rule with any books that try to talk deep math and physics is not to read them anymore until my knowledge is at least relatively close to that level

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Very easy to develop misconceptions when you haven’t really learned pre-req concepts to really understand abstraction and complexity at the research level

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Also avoiding misconceptions when possible helps you avoid wasting more time

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Sometimes it’s better to wait a few years before touching some texts. Depends on how far you mature. My math maturity needs a lot of work, I don’t know about you

gray gazelle Jan 21, 2021, 9:16 AM

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what exactly is the 4th dimension lmao

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 9:16 AM

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If you have to ask that question, your going to most likely get an answer that’s way over your head

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Watch Carl Sagan’s Flat land video for an ok layman’s explanation

gray gazelle Jan 21, 2021, 9:22 AM

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if you genuinely ask that question you should probably contact john gabriel or a licensed psychiatrist

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 9:23 AM

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Uh ok lol

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I think 3B1B might have a few videos on dimensions

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Numberphile has a few too

quick hornet Jan 21, 2021, 9:43 AM

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sully

flint forge Jan 21, 2021, 2:17 PM

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4D is very easy to picture

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take any 3D animation

elfin scarab Jan 21, 2021, 2:41 PM

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Ok, what about 5D?

gray gazelle Jan 21, 2021, 2:42 PM

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\infty-D

timber mesa Jan 21, 2021, 3:25 PM

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Hausdorff dimension

flint forge Jan 21, 2021, 6:25 PM

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elfin scarab Ok, what about 5D?

a folder of uncountably many 3D animations

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 9:52 PM

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Any suggestions for Real Analysis Textbooks (self-study)?

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I am considering Baby Rudin, Apostol's Analysis volumes, Pugh's Real Analysis, Tao's two volumes

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But like I am not sure which one is the best for self-learning

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I could use multiple books

marble solar Jan 21, 2021, 9:55 PM

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How comfortable are you with epsilon deltas?

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 10:05 PM

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@pine mist Start with Abbott

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:06 PM

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Can someone recommend me a book based off of my course?

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:07 PM

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marble solar How comfortable are you with epsilon deltas?

Moderately

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:07 PM

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hearty steppe <@591322645484666998> Start with Abbott

Yeah, I am

marble solar Jan 21, 2021, 10:07 PM

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Spivak's calculus might be a good start

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I'm partial to Pugh

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 10:08 PM

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I still chuckle a little about that time you said you are partial to Evans... lol

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Cause he is known for his PDE grad text xD

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:08 PM

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marble solar Spivak's calculus might be a good start

Yeah, I have it along Courant's

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:10 PM

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Positive integers, induction, real numbers, operations, ordering, the concepts of supremum and infimum. Axiom of completeness, n-th root function. Sequences, increasing and bounded sequences, sequences that converge to their supremum. Algebra of limits. Series of numbers, geometric series, absolute convergence, ratio test and n-th root test. Definition of e, exponential and logarithmic function. Limit of a function, continuity of a function, algebra of limits and continuity of functions. Intermediate value theorem, derivatives, algebra of derivatives, geometric interpretation, differential, Rolle’s theorem, mean value theorem, monotonicity, extrema, convexity and graph of a function.

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Pretty standard stuff I just need a good textbook

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With solutions preferably

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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I think Courant's covers it

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The solutions are in another book

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Haven't heard it before is it good?

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:11 PM

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Yeah

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As good as Spivak's or Apostol's

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Oh that good

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Well you might have found me a diamond

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Probably, the three I mentioned cover all you said

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Ty

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 PM

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But Apostol's doesn't have solutions

sage python Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Oh I've heard of Courant

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:12 PM

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Courant's solutions come in a book called "Calculus and Analysis" by Albert Blank

sage python Jan 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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It's supposed to be a lot older and has more applications than Spivak/Apostol right?

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Is courant's exercises good?

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Dami is there a single text you haven’t heard of? Lol

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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I am talking about the updated version from 1999 w/ some guy called John

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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hearty steppe Dami is there a single text you haven’t heard of? Lol

I just know some xd

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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You seem to know every Analysis text to the moon and back

sage python Jan 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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Not really lol

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:13 PM

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I mean representative of the theory

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 10:14 PM

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xD

sage python Jan 21, 2021, 10:14 PM

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I just know Rudin, Pugh, Kriz-Pultr, and Kolmogorov-Fomin in analysis mostly

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:14 PM

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cobalt arch Is courant's exercises good?

Depends, I do the Spivak's ones

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Oh I hear Fomin is a good advanced book

sage python Jan 21, 2021, 10:14 PM

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(In like intro analysis, obv ignoring measure theory where my class didn't have a book so I was scrambling to find books)

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Never heard of Kriz

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:14 PM

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Hm the options are too many:)

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 10:15 PM

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I think most people scramble in analysis cause probably 60% of students enrolled in the class don’t have much exposure to proof writing maybe?

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:15 PM

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It would be preferable for someone to tell me which book to use.

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Spivak is good

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But the exercises aren't many

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So I would prefer something with more exercises that covers the same material as spivak does

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:16 PM

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U can try Apostol's exercises

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Hm yeah that is true but the book is 600 pages and I don't have enough time:(. I guess that is my fault:).

hearty steppe Jan 21, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Also Diestel was not a good first read for Graph theory. I’m upset at everyone who mentioned that over Chartrand and Zhang’s Graph theory book or perhaps Voloshin

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:17 PM

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Just do the exercises

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U said u wanted exercises

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and just keep using Spivak's for theory

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Yeah that is true but are there solutions?

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:18 PM

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oh, true. There aren't

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:18 PM

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:(

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Then do Courant's

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 10:18 PM

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Ok

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Ty kori

pine mist Jan 21, 2021, 10:20 PM

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But like did you do all Spivak's exercises already?

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Try them out, they are the hardest from the three classics

cobalt arch Jan 21, 2021, 11:00 PM

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I see kori

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No I haven't done them

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I will try them out I am just short on time..

cedar mist Jan 22, 2021, 1:48 AM

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anybody have good recommendations for an introductory textbook on computational biology? preferably something that doesn't expect a rigorous background in biology

hearty steppe Jan 22, 2021, 2:56 AM

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Waterman, assuming you have a decent background in prob stat and some linear algebra

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Honestly man, just learn biology while learning the math you need to learn. There’s no way around that

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If you are going to be some sort of biologist, the expectation is you have some understanding of biology

fresh umbra Jan 22, 2021, 7:51 AM

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What's a good book to self learn number theory?

sudden kindle Jan 22, 2021, 7:51 AM

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what do you wanna learn in number theory?

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elementary nt? algebraic nt? analytic nt?

fresh umbra Jan 22, 2021, 7:52 AM

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I basically want an intro to pure math, im in my first year of college doing a matSci degree

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So no real pure math has come up , I was initially interested in olympiad type problems

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But never gave an olympiad

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Also I don't know the difference in the kinds of nt u mentioned

sudden kindle Jan 22, 2021, 7:54 AM

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maybe try The book of numbers by John Horton Conway

sudden kindle Jan 22, 2021, 7:55 AM

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fresh umbra So no real pure math has come up , I was initially interested in olympiad type p...

oh then i have no idea what olympiad type problems include cause i never did that

karmic thorn Jan 22, 2021, 7:55 AM

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Elementary Number Theory by David Burton might be a good starting point.

marble solar Jan 22, 2021, 8:25 AM

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fresh umbra What's a good book to self learn number theory?

Apostol Intro to Analytic Number Theory

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The first half is elementary number theory + some cool calculus estimates

sage python Jan 22, 2021, 8:25 AM

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You should get sponsored by Apostol tbh

marble solar Jan 22, 2021, 8:25 AM

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Ah yes the apostol estate

fresh umbra Jan 22, 2021, 10:26 AM

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Thenks everyone

cobalt arch Jan 22, 2021, 1:26 PM

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Any books that cover a substantial amount of branches of math with full solutions to exercises or series of books like the springer ones or the schaums outlines?

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I am in desperate need for such a book

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I guess there isn't one angerysad

stray veldt Jan 22, 2021, 1:36 PM

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multiple branches of math in a single book?

karmic thorn Jan 22, 2021, 1:49 PM

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Princeton Companion and Mathematics and its History are two such books, but afaik the former is not a textbook, and the latter has greater emphasis on historic development(and probably doesn't contain solutions either).

cobalt arch Jan 22, 2021, 3:07 PM

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I knew it but thank you angerysad

marble solar Jan 22, 2021, 3:50 PM

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cobalt arch Any books that cover a substantial amount of branches of math with full solution...

Schaum's Outlines of various subjects. Discrete Math, PDEs, etc.

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Linear algebra one is very good

cobalt arch Jan 22, 2021, 3:51 PM

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Ty moonbear

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angerysad

cobalt arch Jan 22, 2021, 8:57 PM

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A book that covers all of precalculus in a terse and formal manner?

sudden granite Jan 22, 2021, 9:11 PM

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Basic Mathematics by Serge Lang is a great read.

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@cobalt arch

gray gazelle Jan 22, 2021, 9:13 PM

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does anyone know is there an english translation of Grothendieck's diaries and writings on non-mathematical topics?

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I've managed to find only german translation from french

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I am particularly interested in "La Clef des Songes"

cobalt arch Jan 22, 2021, 9:32 PM

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Thank you @sudden granite

sudden granite Jan 22, 2021, 9:33 PM

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No problem.

sudden granite Jan 23, 2021, 7:33 AM

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Lang is bae.

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 8:03 AM

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A good, slightly-rigorous book for multivar calculus?(Something more rigorous than Thomas', but lesser than Spivak's CoM would be nice)

gray gazelle Jan 23, 2021, 8:10 AM

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Hubbard and Hubbard?

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 8:17 AM

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Will check it out, thanks!

hollow current Jan 23, 2021, 8:26 AM

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probably Silverman

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 8:27 AM

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Will take a look.

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 2:22 PM

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It seems to cover lin alg, MVC, as well as some intro to forms.

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The first few pages I've read, it looks promising.

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@gray gazelle Ahlfors does have an Indian edition, without missing chapters. opencry

gray gazelle Jan 23, 2021, 2:26 PM

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petTheCat

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i may buy a copy

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 2:26 PM

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hype

gray gazelle Jan 23, 2021, 2:27 PM

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complex hard so i might want a copy instead of going through the pdf all the time

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 2:27 PM

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Fair enough. I'm starting to prefer physical copies as well, but some books are just...

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I think a printer with low printing cost might be a more reasonable long term investment.

gray gazelle Jan 23, 2021, 2:44 PM

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Ahlfors has missing chapters thonkeyes ?

hasty turret Jan 23, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Indian edition

gray gazelle Jan 23, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Did they lower the standard ?

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thonkzoom

hasty turret Jan 23, 2021, 2:45 PM

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Prob

gray gazelle Jan 23, 2021, 2:45 PM

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i bought an indian edition of a linalg book once and it was missing an entire chapter

hasty turret Jan 23, 2021, 2:45 PM

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gray gazelle i bought an indian edition of a linalg book once and it was missing an entire ch...

Why did you buy an indian edition?

gray gazelle Jan 23, 2021, 2:46 PM

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cheap

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well

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got my money's worth

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petTheCat

fathom flower Jan 23, 2021, 3:05 PM

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F

calm crane Jan 23, 2021, 4:36 PM

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use chinese editions

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they usually are like

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equivalent

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to the usual editions

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and also legal!

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well if you buy in mainland china

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excluding hong kong and macau and taiwan

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im not joking

hasty turret Jan 23, 2021, 4:37 PM

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The legality part?

calm crane Jan 23, 2021, 4:37 PM

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yes

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and the equivalent part

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the only difference is price and paper quality

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you get for super cheap for like kinda meh paper quality

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but who cares about paper quality XD

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Same with Indian editions. tinktonk

calm crane Jan 23, 2021, 4:39 PM

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📎 image0.jpg 📎 image1.jpg

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somewhere in some fineprints it explicitly states no hong kong macau and taiwan as well

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 4:39 PM

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Apart from the usual disaster that Pearson does by deleting chapters.

calm crane Jan 23, 2021, 4:41 PM

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so far my chinese springer editions came out as good as scihub springer edition

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 4:41 PM

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catThink That's neat.

calm crane Jan 23, 2021, 4:42 PM

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http://www.china-pub.com
the main source seems to be from here

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so if you really want to drive the price super low get someone in china to buy it for you

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 4:45 PM

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Uh nice website, but it doesn't seem to have an English version.

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Springer is getting more reasonable with paperbacks over here as well, it's just the usual hardcovers which are expensive as hell.

calm crane Jan 23, 2021, 4:46 PM

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ahh cool

gray gazelle Jan 23, 2021, 4:53 PM

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Any recommendations for linear algebra book catThink

valid moth Jan 23, 2021, 4:57 PM

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axler and hoffman kunze, use them interchangeably per section depending on which has a better treatment of the topic

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and hoffman kunze for determinants

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basically what i did

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axler doesn't do determinants well, but like— just get another source

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because aside from that, i liked axler's overall style and structure

hasty turret Jan 23, 2021, 4:59 PM

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Or use Friedberg's book

novel iris Jan 23, 2021, 5:14 PM

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karmic thorn A good, slightly-rigorous book for multivar calculus?(Something more rigorous th...

Hubbads seems to be exactly what you're looking for

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great book imo

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I recently started the forms chapter

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 5:14 PM

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Yeah, it looks good so far!

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I started from a quick reading of chapter 0, I'll probably be sticking to the text linearly.

hollow current Jan 23, 2021, 5:15 PM

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chapter 0

silver herald Jan 23, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Vimes joke incoming

hollow current Jan 23, 2021, 5:15 PM

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indexation from 1 is like am i joke to you

silver herald Jan 23, 2021, 5:15 PM

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Oh come on - you can do better than that

hollow current Jan 23, 2021, 5:15 PM

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but do i want to do so?

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tinktonk

silver herald Jan 23, 2021, 5:16 PM

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thonkzoom

gray gazelle Jan 23, 2021, 6:33 PM

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karmic thorn Springer is getting more reasonable with paperbacks over here as well, it's just...

Springer hardcovers are on average cheaper than other publishers

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At least the ones I've bought

karmic thorn Jan 23, 2021, 6:37 PM

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They could be cheaper relative to other publishers, but they're still above my threshold to spend on books. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Is there a calculus book more rigorous than spivak or do I go into analysis next?

gray gazelle Jan 23, 2021, 8:06 PM

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spivak is basically intro analysis lol

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:07 PM

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Can I do away with calculus and move into analysis instead?

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I mean is the material covered the same. If so do I need calculus at all?

hollow peak Jan 23, 2021, 8:08 PM

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calculus and analysis cover different material

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just because you can prove basic calculus theorems doesn't mean you're actually proficient at the skills involved

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Real analysis explains everything that's going on behind the scenes in calculus

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:09 PM

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That's what I mean

hollow peak Jan 23, 2021, 8:09 PM

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it's good to know calculus first

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:09 PM

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In which branches is calculus used?

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Yes, probably for exposure, but with the right choice of book it's not strictly necessary

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:10 PM

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And what would that book be?

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Basically one that doesn't assume much knowledge from calculus. I'll have to look into it. Abbott - Understanding analysis is a popular entry-level book

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:11 PM

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Hm

gray gazelle Jan 23, 2021, 8:12 PM

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Hi
guys
Does anyone have a simple program like Daum Equation Editor?
No longer works due to flash

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:13 PM

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Isn't the material covered in analysis the same as in calculus but in a more formal manner?

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:13 PM

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To understand the differences between calculus and analysis I would recommend Chapter 1 of Analysis 1 by Terence Tao

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:13 PM

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Does he explain that very distinction?

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:14 PM

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He explains this with some good examples.

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:14 PM

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I was more so thinking of something along the lines of baby rudin

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I have heard that tao is good but Rudin is the standard.

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Yes, I have not read Rudin, but from what I've heard it's a hit or miss

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:15 PM

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I see

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So spivak would be the best for a rigorous exposition of calculus?

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:19 PM

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It's the most popular. I just read a bit in the preface of Tao's analysis book, and I don't actually think he assumes much knowledge from calculus. But maybe you'll be more "motivated" after taking calculus, to understand what's really going on

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I think one reason that calculus is always taught first, is that many students will not go any further, they only need the calculus methods for their further studies in things like engineering, chemistry, biology etc, but it's not so important to understand the fundamental theory behind

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If you know for certain that you will proceed with higher mathematics, I don't see any reason why you can't try to jump straight to analysis

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:23 PM

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That is great to hear

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I really want to learn analysis

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And I am bored to death by calculus

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:24 PM

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I have actually planned to read Taos books from the beginning, and "relearn" all my analysis

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I agree, calculus is dead boring

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:25 PM

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I guess I need calculus for ODEs and chaos theory..

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Wait does analysis cover integrals and derivatives just in a more rigorous manner?

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:26 PM

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Yes, that's basically what real analysis does

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:26 PM

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If so I won't waste my time reading any calculus at all..

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I don't understand why the former is a prerequisite so to speak for the latter

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:27 PM

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It'

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It's a lot about tradition and history in the universities

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Yeah I understand that

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Calculus is always taught first, it's also to get a smoother transition to formal, proof-based mathematics

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:28 PM

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Are there any classes that I will need calculus for or am I good to go with analysis?

broken meadow Jan 23, 2021, 8:28 PM

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presumably learning the mechanics of how something works before learning the theory is easier than doing both at once

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Well the intuitive understanding you get from reading the theory behind that which you regurgitate is better I think in the long run.

broken meadow Jan 23, 2021, 8:30 PM

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🤷‍♀️

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there are ways to learn calculus mechanically that isn't just regurgitation but

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okay

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:31 PM

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I just don't enjoy calculus that is all haha

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Okay, what makes you think that you will enjoy analysis? Not assuming anything, just asking

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:31 PM

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If you don't like calculus then why are you even remotely interested in ODE's

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:33 PM

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Btw, I think it's absolutely possible to hate calculus but enjoy real analysis

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:34 PM

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I think that chaos theory just sounds too appealing to me so that is the reason why I am interested in ODEs.

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:35 PM

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graceful bridge Btw, I think it's absolutely possible to hate calculus but enjoy real analysis

I'm not a fan particularly of how I was taught calculus but I feel like you have to have had some interest in the material to have any sort of appreciation for real analysis.

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Obviously that's a personal opinion.

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:36 PM

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Yes, that was what I tried to say earlier, you will be more motivated and appreciate the theory more after taking calculus

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:36 PM

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I guess just take my statement then as a reinforcement then lol

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:37 PM

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But what have you done before @cobalt arch ?

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:37 PM

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I think that I will enjoy analysis because I will get to know what something actually is while not reading obfuscated information peppered with all the jargon that calculus is.

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Wdym:)?

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:38 PM

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Are you a math student or self-taught?

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:39 PM

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I am a math student

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Okay, so you have formally taken a calculus course or what?

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Not that it matters, I was just curious

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:42 PM

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Yeah I have but I have been in a rough spot these past couple years and it has been hard but I am getting back to it. I am reading spivak's calculus and although I enjoy it the exposition seems very disjointed and unnerving. So that is why I want to learn real analysis. Because everything is clear and to the point.

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:43 PM

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Okay, I totally get you, I feel the same way about calculus (although I used a different book)

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:43 PM

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@cobalt arch I have a book recommendation if you're interested.

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Hm I would like that:)

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:44 PM

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Real Analysis by Jay Cummings

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It's a really well written analysis book that I'm using to supplement my analysis course.

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He also just released a proofs textbook which is also very easy to read.

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:46 PM

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That seems really interesting @reef oar, I like the idea behind the book

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http://webpages.csus.edu/Jay.Cummings/Books.html

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Will definitely try it

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:47 PM

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I will say that the dude is kind of quippy so he has some footnotes that he'll insert from time to time to either expand on an idea or take an opportunity to make some sort of math joke.

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Like this one he made about proving √2 is irrational

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📎 PXL_20210114_182050542.jpg

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Unfortunately it seems like it's not available online 😩 Or did I miss anything?

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:48 PM

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I got my copy from Amazon

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:48 PM

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Is the proofs book any good?

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:48 PM

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If that's available to you.

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:48 PM

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cobalt arch Is the proofs book any good?

So far I really like it.

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:49 PM

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Do you know of chartrand?

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The book is very well structured

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It has everything listed by proof technique.

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Really nice book

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:50 PM

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I was working from The Book of Proof but I didn't find it to be to my liking.

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:50 PM

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Try chartrand as well

hollow peak Jan 23, 2021, 8:50 PM

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best analysis intro text is pugh

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I use pugh and supplement with rudin and kolmogorov

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:50 PM

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What didn't you like the book of proof?

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I will delve into Rudin because he is the gold standard

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Is it impossible to read Rudin as a first passing of real analysis?

hollow peak Jan 23, 2021, 8:52 PM

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people who recommend rudin as a first pass are sadists

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Haha

dapper root Jan 23, 2021, 8:52 PM

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Make it out of the fire

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And you’re forged of steel

hollow peak Jan 23, 2021, 8:52 PM

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it's true, but chances are you'll just absorb nothing because it's too difficult for a first pass usually

dapper root Jan 23, 2021, 8:53 PM

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¯_(ツ)_/¯

hollow peak Jan 23, 2021, 8:53 PM

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rudin is better at tempering analysis skills

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:53 PM

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cobalt arch What didn't you like the book of proof?

I'm not sure I can nail down specifically why I didn't like it. I think sometimes his examples may not have been fleshed out enough for me to latch on.

dapper root Jan 23, 2021, 8:53 PM

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I find it hard to actually proceed through something without learning it

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A class sure

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:53 PM

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Hmm Cummings' book does have great reviews on Amazon, I never buy physical books but maybe I will this time since it's also very cheap

dapper root Jan 23, 2021, 8:53 PM

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Because you’re moving before you should

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But if you’re moving on studying a book by yourself without understanding it you’re just screwing yourself over

hollow peak Jan 23, 2021, 8:53 PM

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cummings' book has always sort of looked like a joke to me

dapper root Jan 23, 2021, 8:54 PM

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That being said I didn’t use rudin I used the undergrad Folland which was also hard as shit but whatever

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:54 PM

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reef oar I'm not sure I can nail down specifically why I didn't like it. I think sometime...

I see

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:54 PM

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hollow peak cummings' book has always sort of looked like a joke to me

I enjoy it. It certainly isn't Rudin but honestly it's not trying to be.

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:55 PM

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I will use Rudin because I am masochistic

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:55 PM

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It's just supposed to be readable and accessible.

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:55 PM

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I don't know why it appeals to me so much. I guess the harder something is the better.

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I mean it comes down to taste and the like

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 8:56 PM

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I'm completely opposite. I like to be coddled for a little bit before I get absolutely spanked by an actual class.

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:57 PM

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Haha maybe you have been exposed to enough math to know

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 8:57 PM

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I mean we should just agree that we have different styles of learning. Im a big fan of trying different books and picking the one that suits me. And if it's fantastic I'll maybe even buy a physical copy

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 8:58 PM

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Is papa and grandpa Rudin up to par?

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I mean they are not comparable per se

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But are they the standard texts in the respective fields as baby Rudin is to real analysis?

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 9:02 PM

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The reason why I'm a bit sceptical to Rudin is that it's popularity probably comes from its long history, like many lecturers choose the book they used when they were students. But now there are dozens of great analysis books

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But if you think it's the one that will suit you best, then go ahead of course!

broken meadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:03 PM

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fuck... i think my first pass is gonna be rudin next year

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let me check

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Rudin PMA 3rd edition

marble solar Jan 23, 2021, 9:03 PM

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Rudin is fine

broken meadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:03 PM

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is that the baby one

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or the big one

marble solar Jan 23, 2021, 9:03 PM

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You can learn from it

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Pugh is just better

broken meadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:04 PM

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so would i benefit from like

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reading from both pugh and rudin and just doing the psets that the prof gives me

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i've heard many good things about pugh

cobalt arch Jan 23, 2021, 9:05 PM

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So pugh is considered the best text for real analysis?

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 9:05 PM

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@broken meadow Strictly speaking you don't have to use the textbook listed in the course description

broken meadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:06 PM

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i see

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not sure how these more advanced classes work when they say to use a book or sth

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i think the professor assigns his own problem sets

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so

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im not really bound to a book right

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like you said

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 9:07 PM

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Yes, students are often afraid to miss something for the exam and therefore use the suggested book

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But I hate being told which pages to read, which exercises to solve, it'

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it's so uninspiring

broken meadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:08 PM

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i see

reef oar Jan 23, 2021, 9:11 PM

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It's sometimes helpful, if you do choose to use the book listed for the course, to supplement it with something else.

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It can help fill in deficiencies of information between texts.

graceful bridge Jan 23, 2021, 9:12 PM

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Exactly, try to find a book with a very different approach, to complement the course book

broken meadow Jan 23, 2021, 9:12 PM

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good advice

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i will do that

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thank you :3

valid moth Jan 23, 2021, 9:47 PM

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My personal holdup with Rudin is that my way of thinking meshes much better with e.g. how Pugh is written

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Whereas for Rudin it's always a struggle, and not really in the good productive sense

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On first reading I found the proofs to be slick rather than instructive

novel iris Jan 23, 2021, 11:06 PM

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Agreed

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Rudy’s polishes up his proofs and removes all the “scaffolding”, a part important for students learning rigorous math for the first time angerysad

near adder Jan 23, 2021, 11:23 PM

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Abbott could be an alternative book for real analusis

crisp finch Jan 24, 2021, 1:54 AM

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hi

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any good books for competition math number theory?

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advanced

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like i heard awesomemath has a good book

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has anybody here read it?

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and did u like it

marble solar Jan 24, 2021, 2:48 AM

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Apostol Analytic Number THeory

ripe granite Jan 24, 2021, 2:52 AM

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for contest math?

marble solar Jan 24, 2021, 3:34 AM

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For number theory

fair wing Jan 24, 2021, 12:12 PM

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i need some good combinatorics book. i know to work around the basics, but intuitively mapping the problem is hard for me in combinatorics.

any recommendations?

karmic thorn Jan 24, 2021, 3:42 PM

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A Walk Through Combinatorics, Miklos Bona.

gray gazelle Jan 24, 2021, 5:01 PM

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is there a calculus equivalent to Hefferon's linear algebra? most importantly I'm looking for some kind of supplementary material that teaches you how to use programming libraries to solve problems, verify answers. just some practical application, not just pen and paper. and not too dry. and with answers to problems

crisp finch Jan 24, 2021, 5:02 PM

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ripe granite for contest math?

yea

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for contest math

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i should've clarified that

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mb

karmic thorn Jan 24, 2021, 5:11 PM

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AoPS?

crisp finch Jan 24, 2021, 5:12 PM

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i already read aops

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thx for the kind suggestion tho 🙂

karmic thorn Jan 24, 2021, 5:13 PM

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I suppose that's kinda sufficient for olympiad? You could probably then advance into more of proper number theory with a book like Apostol, then.

crisp finch Jan 24, 2021, 5:14 PM

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ok

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thx

cobalt arch Jan 24, 2021, 5:28 PM

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What is the best book for an intuitive understanding of calculus concepts?

gray gazelle Jan 24, 2021, 5:28 PM

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spivak good

cobalt arch Jan 24, 2021, 5:29 PM

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Me bad

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The delta epsilon definition of a limit is easy to visualize but I can't apply it to exercises..

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Is there a book with many such problems?

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That I could practice

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Except for apostol and courant

karmic thorn Jan 24, 2021, 5:30 PM

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Thomas'/Stewart?

broken meadow Jan 24, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Not stewart

karmic thorn Jan 24, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Thomas has some epsilon-delta problems in the chapter on limits.

broken meadow Jan 24, 2021, 5:31 PM

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please god no

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Not Stewart

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if you’re gonna use stewart only use it for problems i guess but even then just use something else

karmic thorn Jan 24, 2021, 5:31 PM

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Probably Problems in Mathematical Analysis by Demidovich might have what you're looking for.

cobalt arch Jan 24, 2021, 5:34 PM

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Oh

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That sounds great

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I will check it out

hollow current Jan 24, 2021, 5:38 PM

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karmic thorn Probably *Problems in Mathematical Analysis* by Demidovich might have what you'r...

ye russian boy

karmic thorn Jan 24, 2021, 5:39 PM

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KEK

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I saw it pinned in one of the channels here.

broken meadow Jan 24, 2021, 5:42 PM

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it Was

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i think the pins in calculus channel vanished

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anyway i need to start working on that for the coming integration bee or sth 😭

hollow current Jan 24, 2021, 5:43 PM

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@broken meadow wym

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karmic thorn Jan 24, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Goodluck! You can probably see that one MSE thread about becoming better at integration(the answers came from beasts like Ron Gordon).

broken meadow Jan 24, 2021, 5:43 PM

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oh

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they’re still there?!? wow

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nice

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also yes i will ted

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ty

karmic thorn Jan 24, 2021, 5:44 PM

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catthumbsup

sage python Jan 25, 2021, 3:28 AM

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"beasts like Ron Gordon"

~~who?~~

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 3:29 AM

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If you've used MSE for a while, you probably know who Ron Gordon is.

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He's a user known for solving extremely challenging integrals.

sage python Jan 25, 2021, 3:46 AM

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I've used MSE but not on the integrals part so it makes sense that I don't know him lol

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 3:48 AM

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Let me share a piece of his artwork lmao.

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https://math.stackexchange.com/a/565626/694763

Mathematics Stack Exchange

Integral $\int_{-1}^1\frac1x\sqrt{\frac{1+x}{1-x}}\ln\left(\frac{2\...

I need help with this integral:
$$I=\int_{-1}^1\frac1x\sqrt{\frac{1+x}{1-x}}\ln\left(\frac{2,x^2+2,x+1}{2,x^2-2,x+1}\right)\ \mathrm dx.$$
The integrand graph looks like this:
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The

static crest Jan 25, 2021, 3:51 AM

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who was the dude who just posted the answer

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to hard integrals on mse

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with no steps

sage python Jan 25, 2021, 3:52 AM

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He puts dx at the beginning so his results aren't correct

static crest Jan 25, 2021, 3:53 AM

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ew I just noticed

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cringe physicist

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 3:53 AM

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static crest who was the dude who just posted the answer

Cleo

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Cleo has an answer to this one as well, people lost their minds over their answer lmao.

static crest Jan 25, 2021, 3:54 AM

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oh lmao

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lmfao I scrolled down, I see it

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📎 unknown.png

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what medical condition prevents you from writing your steps

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catThink

ripe granite Jan 25, 2021, 3:56 AM

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bathmophobia

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https://phobia.wikia.org/wiki/Bathmophobia#:~:text=Bathmophobia is the fear of,down stairs or a hill.

Phobia Wiki

Bathmophobia

Bathmophobia | Phobia Wiki | Fandom

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kekw

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 4:24 AM

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bthmophobia

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bath

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keyboard

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is fucking faulty

tight crag Jan 25, 2021, 6:28 AM

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Brave new world

cobalt arch Jan 25, 2021, 2:42 PM

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Can someone recommend me a book about real analysis that is rigorous and complete in its proofs?

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 2:59 PM

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"Complete in its proofs"??

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Do you want a book that leaves nothing as an exercise?

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 2:59 PM

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it'd have to be about analysis over R, then

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opencry .

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 3:00 PM

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Pugh monkaS

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I don't know if there's any book which gives you everything, but Tao comes close, in the sense that proofs are accessible and the exercises have helpful hints.

cobalt arch Jan 25, 2021, 4:46 PM

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Is tao that good?

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In terms of what I want

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 4:49 PM

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It's the one I'm using presently, and I find it to be very gentle for beginners, compared to other analysis texts which I tried getting into.

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I mean

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You're not really expecting every result with its proof written down?

cobalt arch Jan 25, 2021, 4:50 PM

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I guess that is impossible

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I want to try Rudin

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What I want more than anything is rigorousness.

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Sure, go for Rudin then.

cobalt arch Jan 25, 2021, 4:51 PM

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Okay ty

hollow current Jan 25, 2021, 5:00 PM

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@cobalt arch vladimir zorich "Mathematical analysis"

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it is rigorous

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and have a lot of proofs as well as exercises

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also nice book is bernd schroder's "mathematical analysis a consice introduction"

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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hey does anyone have any book recommendations for mathematical analysis

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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pugh

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Epic, there is already a book recommendation for analysis

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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Tao, Analysis 1.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 5:41 PM

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okay

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doesn't tao mean fuck in mandarin

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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pugh is good but his writing style is a little unique

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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i'm pretty sure it does

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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It means path

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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warm sundial doesn't tao mean fuck in mandarin

Given that it's a book on analysis it might make some sense.

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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/route/road

restive raptor Jan 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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warm sundial hey does anyone have any book recommendations for mathematical analysis

what level are you doing analysis at?

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 5:42 PM

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tfw world's best mathematician is named "fuck"

restive raptor Jan 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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a course titled "analysis" can be anything between epsilon/delta calculus and measure theory

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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introduction, I haven't studied it before

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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I like Tao's writing style for a beginner.

cobalt arch Jan 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Baby Rudin is the way

restive raptor Jan 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Baby Rudin is not good for someone who has done no analysis before imo

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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tempted to sully

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 5:43 PM

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Walks you through results, helps you build intuition, gives ample hints for the problems. The proofs are verbose but easy to understand.

restive raptor Jan 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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I agree with Ted here. I've been really impressed with the parts of Tao I've looked at

hasty turret Jan 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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📎 IMG_20210125_231357.jpg

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Spivak?

hasty turret Jan 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Wrong Tao?

cobalt arch Jan 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Why does Rudin get such a bad rep:(

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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Does Spivak have an analysis book?

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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tao ni ma bi

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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It's a good book, but not exactly the best starting point with better first options available.

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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spivak calculus is intro analysis opencry

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 5:44 PM

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oh it is cao but pronounced tao

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my bad

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cao ni ma

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 5:45 PM

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"cao ni ma" sully

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 5:45 PM

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yes

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wo ba ni ma ma fang dao chuang shang cao fanta

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don't google translate i only know a few phrases in mandarin

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 5:47 PM

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catThonk

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 5:47 PM

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guys i never thought there would be something called big pi in math

silk quartz Jan 25, 2021, 5:47 PM

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It's the multiplier operator. Similar to Big Sigma.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 5:48 PM

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yeah ij think it is funny

cobalt arch Jan 25, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Big Papa Rudin

hasty turret Jan 25, 2021, 5:48 PM

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Papa Grandpa rudin

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 5:48 PM

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sigh

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daddy rudin

karmic thorn Jan 25, 2021, 5:49 PM

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Monke Rudin.

broken meadow Jan 25, 2021, 5:57 PM

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Father Rudin

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 5:58 PM

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oml

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these devs are incompetent

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so i listen to pop smoke an woo around the office

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and now tell them to change everything they did and throw it out

hasty turret Jan 25, 2021, 5:59 PM

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Are you sure you are not the one being incompetent?

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 6:00 PM

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I manage the team I decide what incompetence is here

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so we have tiers of callers, they had the tiers as an element instead of a key

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which is just stupid

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so like in a json {tier 1: [{}, {}, {}, tier 2: ...

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you know

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but they did [{tier, phone number, blah blah blah}]

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which is just fucking stupid

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because i have to take the tiers in groups and do things with all of them at once

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so putting the tier as a key in a dict in an array and posting that to me is fucking dumb

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and im not the incompetent one bc he did not argue at all and is changing it rn

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maybe that's bc im his boss or it's that im god at code

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 6:26 PM

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hmmm

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You rant and flex your "skills" in #book-recommendations @warm sundial , how competent and smart are you

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 6:27 PM

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i am competent in cs and i never said i was smart

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you can find me calling myself stupid a lot actually

hasty turret Jan 25, 2021, 6:28 PM

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I mean,They suck at math

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 6:28 PM

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as that is what i consider myself

hasty turret Jan 25, 2021, 6:28 PM

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And is probably too immature

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But,That doesn't affect their programming competence

wooden sparrow Jan 25, 2021, 6:30 PM

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warm sundial as that is what i consider myself

To be conscious that you're ignorant, is a great step to knowledge -some Benjamin guy quoted on Spivak

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 6:30 PM

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Just check the channel at least

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 6:40 PM

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i like that quote

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but yeah i am so afraid of dunning Kruger that i feel i always am at the initial peak

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which is why i range from a god complex to impostor syndrome

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and i fear the only way to cure this is to learn as much as I can, but the more I learn the more insignificant i feel

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this perpetual loop i predict will encompass my life

silk quartz Jan 25, 2021, 6:48 PM

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Growth mindset ftw.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 6:55 PM

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?

wooden sparrow Jan 25, 2021, 6:57 PM

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She meant, as long as you think you can improve yourself everyday, and not just assess your abilities as absolute to judge your confidence depending on that, you're good

silk quartz Jan 25, 2021, 6:58 PM

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I inferred that you feel insignificant because you don't know everything.

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But under growth mindset, it's easier to recognize that not knowing everything is a normal state, and is a necessary precursor to knowing things.

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So it's not a bad thing to not know. It's a bad thing to not -learn-.

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As long as you're learning, you're doing good.

broken meadow Jan 25, 2021, 7:03 PM

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that is very relieving to think about

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why wasn't i told about this earlier 😠

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:03 PM

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You can always learn more (:

silk quartz Jan 25, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Growth mindset is super useful.

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:03 PM

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Now you know 😌

silk quartz Jan 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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It insulates you from the downsides of failure, too.

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Because failure is a learning opportunity.

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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The world if everyone adopted a growth mindset ^

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silk quartz Jan 25, 2021, 7:04 PM

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It's a little strange, because gaming is -often- about growth mindset, but we don't really apply it to real life.

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:05 PM

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silk quartz Because failure is a learning opportunity.

Too many people don't know this

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/utilize this knowledge

gray gazelle Jan 25, 2021, 7:23 PM

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sudden granite The world if everyone adopted a growth mindset ^

looks nice

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 7:40 PM

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a lot of people don't care for learning which i just don't understand

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they just choose to exist

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where is the fun and enjoyment there

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for instance, my friend is a math major at yale who gets excited to take multi variable over again

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he is excited because he already knows it and will get an A

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I just wonder why he would waste his money on the class

coarse thunder Jan 25, 2021, 7:47 PM

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warm sundial he is excited because he already knows it and will get an A

Ok that's something stupid to do like why would u want to do something that you already know...rather take a new course or topic and learn something new.

coarse thunder Jan 25, 2021, 7:47 PM

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warm sundial a lot of people don't care for learning which i just don't understand

I don't understand them either

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:47 PM

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Yeah, that is super dumb.

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IT'S A WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY.

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oh

coarse thunder Jan 25, 2021, 7:48 PM

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Yes

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:48 PM

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I had CAPS-LOCK on.

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KEK

coarse thunder Jan 25, 2021, 7:48 PM

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LOL

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:49 PM

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😛

coarse thunder Jan 25, 2021, 7:49 PM

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woke

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:49 PM

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It happens.

coarse thunder Jan 25, 2021, 7:49 PM

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Yea it does

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:50 PM

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He has so many courses available at his disposal at an incredibly prestigious university, and he is retaking a class just because it helps his GPA?

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 7:51 PM

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i know

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:51 PM

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🤦‍♂️

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 7:51 PM

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it seems absurd to me

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like the dude got a 5.2 gpa in highschool

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it seems like that is all he shoots for

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:51 PM

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Yeah.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 7:51 PM

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he is just hooked on good grades not learning

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:53 PM

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It's kind of understandable though. He has worked for a high GPA his entire life and it's been ingrained that GPA is more important than doing something he enjoys.

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Doesn't mean it's good though.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 7:53 PM

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yeah

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i disagree with the structure of schooling

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:54 PM

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Yeah.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 7:54 PM

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and everything that surrounds it

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when i was in middle school i wouldn't show my work for really basic math, but i had interest in it, they then had me redo the year despite getting a B+ in the class

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destroyed my interest

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:56 PM

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😕

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Maybe book discussion isnt the place to talk about this lol

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 7:56 PM

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yeah maybe

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but it caused me to be embarrassed of my studies, swaying me away from learning more, I didn't want to read the textbooks assigned to me during studyhall because i didn't want people seeing me read them

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:57 PM

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Yeah.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 7:57 PM

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now that I am out of school I have learned so much more

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and thankfully rebuilt my love for math

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just sadly, due to those circumstances i am behind where I should be

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:58 PM

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I hate that school is just busy work and memorization.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 7:58 PM

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i agree, it is preparing you to have a job and just do whatever your employer says

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:58 PM

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Yeah.

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That was important in the Industrial Revolution.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 7:58 PM

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indubitably

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i don't want to work anymore despite enjoying my job

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just because work is so limiting

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 7:59 PM

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I can't imagine working at the same company doing the same monotonous work for the rest of my life.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 7:59 PM

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yes

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i have cool projects, i learn new stuff, but i am still on a paycheck to paycheck basis

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:01 PM

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There is still a lot of room for growth in your career thoguh.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:01 PM

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i agree

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but I incorporated my company last night

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and i am hoping to pursue that

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:01 PM

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Nice!

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That's awesome.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:02 PM

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yeah I am excited, we create quantifiable psychological models

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and use predictive algo's on them

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to help our customer better understand themselves

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well not our customer, our users, we are data mining

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:03 PM

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What book did you use to learn predictive algo's (got to tie this into #book-recommendations somehow 😆 )

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:03 PM

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well a bunch but a good one is https://www.amazon.com/Hands-Machine-Learning-Scikit-Learn-TensorFlow/dp/1492032646

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it helps you work with the libraries but also explains the pure math

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:04 PM

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Cool.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:04 PM

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yeah, i try to write my algos from scratch in C

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i prefer to not use libraries

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i feel they take some fun out of it

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Your line of work is interesting.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:05 PM

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yeah i enjoy it a lot

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:05 PM

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Very cutting edge stuff.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:05 PM

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hopefully haha, we don't have any competitors just we have to get users

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:06 PM

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No competition?

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Epic.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:06 PM

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0 yes

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but that makes it a bit confusing

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people are trying to invest in the company, but i do not know how to value it

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:07 PM

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You work at an insurance company though, right?

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:07 PM

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yes I do

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but the company I own is ML/psych research technically

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:08 PM

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Ah.

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👍

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:08 PM

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yeah, for the insurance company I work with NLP primarily

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I do some anti fraud stuff too

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:09 PM

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That's awesome.

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What is your major?

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:09 PM

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yeah it's fun

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I don't go to school

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:09 PM

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Are you planning to?

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:09 PM

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I'm not sure

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I applied to be a Thiel fellow

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Oh yeah.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:10 PM

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but I am anxious for applying to college

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:10 PM

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Why?

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:11 PM

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My grades weren't the best, I was struggling with depression, confused with my sexual orientation and all of that which set me back a bit

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I assumed that the people reading my application would not understand how complex my work is

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so I wouldn't gain any leeway there

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I had a 4.2 freshman, 4.3 sophomore, then 2.1 junior and tested out

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:13 PM

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I think you still have a good chance.

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You have a passion and have put in a lot of hard work and effort.

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Which speaks for itself.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:14 PM

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yeah but it is hard to show them that

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and at a top tier research uni I am dubious they would really care

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they would throw me out after seeing my transcripts

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:14 PM

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Hm.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:15 PM

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yeah, I would have a better chance working at stanford than being a student there

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:15 PM

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Yeah true.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:15 PM

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yeah

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I studied at stanford during highschool

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when my gpa was good lol

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Yeah you told me.

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😌

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:16 PM

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yeah

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Stanford is cool.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:16 PM

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i love it there

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:16 PM

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Their campus is really nice.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:17 PM

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my first time smoking weed was there lol and the campus police came to me and my friends and said we can't smoke there, then offered to drive us somewhere that we could

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:17 PM

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Lol.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:17 PM

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yeah hahaa

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I think one way I could get into a good school is reaching out to the professors I know asking for recommendations

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:18 PM

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I should probably apply to an MIT or Stanford course.

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There is like a 99% chance I wouldn't get in.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:18 PM

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yeah they have wonderful professors

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Give sec, I have a math assignment that's due in 40 minutes but I have like 5 more questions left.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:19 PM

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ahaha okay good luck

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:19 PM

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Thanks,

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On the last question.

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Ok I'm done @warm sundial.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:26 PM

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welcome back

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what do you study?

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:26 PM

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Very easy stuff at the end.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:26 PM

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always nice

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:26 PM

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It was just boring trig stuff.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:26 PM

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ah yes

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:27 PM

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Coterminal angles, refraction, special right triangles, etc

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:27 PM

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yeah nice

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:27 PM

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I was looking at MIT Beaverworks but I haven't taken a look at Stanford courses.

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Are they very competitive to get into?

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:28 PM

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Well I don't know exactly how hard they are to get into, for the course I took there were 30 kids with something like 100k applicants

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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100,000 applicants?

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Damn.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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yeah

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it was a google thing

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so kinda different

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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.0003 acceptance rate

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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yeah

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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Aight aight ez right?

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Yeahhhhh

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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yeah idk how I got in

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:29 PM

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I'm out lol.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:30 PM

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but that is once again different than their standard courses as it was a funnel into Google X

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Like we had professors, took classes, but we also had a project we were working on to present to recruiters

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if that makes sense

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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Yeah.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:31 PM

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so there were a lot of people applying

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Do you know what Engineering Analysis is?

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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i've heard of it

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but never studied that

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:32 PM

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Stanford offers a course but I don't know what it is.

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sully

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:33 PM

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yeah i feel like that has to deal with more the gateway between math and mechanical engineering?

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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Yeah.

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I think I'll do that later lol.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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all I can do with mechanics is souter boards

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i can't spell

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that

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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You need AP Calculus and AP Physics as prerequisites and I am taking those next year.

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solder?

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:34 PM

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solder

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fuck

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i was off

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physics is soo fun

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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It should be sodder.

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hmmm

river rock Jan 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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Yes it is

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I mean physics is fun

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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i enjoyed physics a lot despite never touching anything from it but vectors lol

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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I like physics a lot, but right now I am stuck in Chemistry.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:35 PM

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i only liked chem because my teacher was great

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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Labs make Chem fun. Unfortunately no labs this year.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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but our first week he was like memorize 20 elements for the table

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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Oh easy.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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and i didn't realize he said 20

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so I learned all of them

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and then was pissed

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when i saw the quiz was 20 questions

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bc i did it in a night j like staying up

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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Hydrogen, Helium, lithium, berylium, boron, carbon, nitrogen, oxygen, fluorine, etc etc

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:36 PM

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i forgot all of it lol

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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I was bored in 5th grade so everyday I memorized 2-3.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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my uncle recently died which sucks because i wasn't into science until after he passed

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ahahaha

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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I'm sorry for your loss.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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my uncle changed fruit flies sexuality

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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KEK

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:37 PM

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thank you, it was anticipated, cancer runs in the family

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but yeah he got a lot of hate from the church

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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Oh that sucks man. My grandfather died of cancer too.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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sorry for your loss

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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He passed away before I was born.

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😕

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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yeah but he adjusted a neurochemical to change their sexuality

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yeah that's unfortunate, my great grandpa died on the manhatten project when my grandpa was 2

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:38 PM

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That's really cool.

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My grandpa is really good at Chemical/Nuclear Engineering.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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yeah my family has a long line of scientists and engineers

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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He was head of Nuclear Power in India.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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oh that is very cool

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my great grandfather designed the shell of the nuke on the manhatten project

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died of radiation poisoning

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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Wow.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:39 PM

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yeah super interesting

river rock Jan 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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Well hello, I want to learn about higher dimensional shapes. I don't know where to start.

river rock Jan 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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sudden granite He was head of Nuclear Power in India.

WOAH

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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There is a photo of my grandfather outside Chernobyl without a mask KEK

river rock Jan 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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warm sundial my great grandfather designed the shell of the nuke on the manhatten project

That's cool

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:40 PM

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and then my grandfather had a full ride to a college, his mom hid it from him so he would go to the military and send back money

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oh wow

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he goes to the military and somehow has an iq of 185 which is absurd

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:41 PM

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Acute Radiation Syndrome is a terrible way to go. That's my worst nightmare.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:41 PM

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it is horrific

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:41 PM

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warm sundial he goes to the military and somehow has an iq of 185 which is absurd

185?!?!

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:41 PM

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yeah 185

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:41 PM

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Damn.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:41 PM

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he was promoted to an officer

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after the intelligence screening

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no rotc or anything

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then here's where i was going, they give him basic instruction on how to handle a nuke for the airforce, he comes back the next day and drew out the blueprints to build it

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went to his CO and got special clearance as a 17 yr old 2nd lt

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:43 PM

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Wow.

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Mods are going to kill us for going off-topic in #book-recommendations

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:43 PM

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ahahaha yes should we move?

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:43 PM

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warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:43 PM

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ahahahaha

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yes that is a lot

sudden granite Jan 25, 2021, 8:44 PM

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We have sent too many off-topic messages lmao.

warm sundial Jan 25, 2021, 8:44 PM

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ahahaha indeed we have

gray gazelle Jan 26, 2021, 3:15 AM

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hmmm

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How can you even ignore that it's #book-recommendations

sudden granite Jan 26, 2021, 3:20 AM

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We switched to DM's.

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Do not worry mate.

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@gray gazelle

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Sully?

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Does he have a book on Riemann Geometry?

gray gazelle Jan 26, 2021, 3:28 AM

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riemannian geometry...

sudden granite Jan 26, 2021, 3:28 AM

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QED

sudden granite Jan 26, 2021, 3:47 AM

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There is no Riemannian Geometry book by Sully?

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This is really sad @gray gazelle

full linden Jan 26, 2021, 9:49 AM

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calculus books?

karmic thorn Jan 26, 2021, 9:52 AM

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What are you looking for in a calculus book?(More rigour, more applications, a combination of both?)

full linden Jan 26, 2021, 9:54 AM

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@karmic thorn Well, that's an hard question. I want to learn stochastic processes in the long run. Therefore, what would you recommend?

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I have already ordered "How to prove it" tho

karmic thorn Jan 26, 2021, 9:55 AM

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Hmm, Spivak should give a solid foundation then.

full linden Jan 26, 2021, 9:55 AM

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Ok thank you very much!

karmic thorn Jan 26, 2021, 9:56 AM

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catthumbsup

chrome crest Jan 26, 2021, 5:59 PM

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are there any good books to learn math? i don't know calculus, but i have some knowledge of linear algebra

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https://www.amazon.co.uk/Linear-Algebra-Everyone-Gilbert-Strang/dp/1733146636

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is this book considered good?

sudden granite Jan 26, 2021, 6:13 PM

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devout mist Jan 26, 2021, 6:36 PM

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Does anyone have any recommendations for an intro to $F_2^n$?

hasty eagleBOT Jan 26, 2021, 6:36 PM

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meow

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devout mist Jan 26, 2021, 6:37 PM

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or vector spaces over finite fields?

graceful bridge Jan 26, 2021, 7:06 PM

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chrome crest are there any good books to learn math? i don't know calculus, but i have some k...

You should be specific about what you want a recommendation for. Linear algebra?

sudden granite Jan 26, 2021, 7:47 PM

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He sent a book for Linear Algebra so I think he wants a LA book

devout mist Jan 26, 2021, 8:39 PM

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yup for linear algebra

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but I'd be curious for any other recommendations too

sudden granite Jan 26, 2021, 8:45 PM

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I recommend browsing through #books-old and see what interests you

graceful bridge Jan 26, 2021, 8:46 PM

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Also, since there are so many options in linear algebra, it would be nice if you could be more detailed about what level you're at and what style of exposition you like

gray gazelle Jan 26, 2021, 8:52 PM

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vector spaces over finite fields
it's called combinatorics, i recommend miklos bona's book

sudden kindle Jan 26, 2021, 8:53 PM

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Vector spaces over finite fields flonshed

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Group actions on vector spaces over finite fields flonshed

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Fourier analysis on G invariant functions on vector spaces over finite fields flonshed

gray gazelle Jan 26, 2021, 8:56 PM

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floshed

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🥵

sudden granite Jan 26, 2021, 8:58 PM

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What's a good Intro to Calculus book? I am going into APCalcBC next year and need something to introduce me to the concepts. I saw Calculus Basic Concepts by Tarasov but I don't like the conversation format.

gray gazelle Jan 26, 2021, 9:06 PM

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sounds like F_un

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petTheCat

delicate canopy Jan 26, 2021, 10:42 PM

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should i read only one book from the introductory book part or do they all cover slightly different topics?

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i'd like to get better at proof and problem solving

cunning stirrup Jan 27, 2021, 3:47 AM

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https://drive.google.com/file/d/1CIul68phzuOe6JZwsCuBuXUR8X-AkgEO/edit

Google Docs

An introduction to the single variable New Calculus.pdf

marble solar Jan 27, 2021, 3:50 AM

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Is this not latex

broken meadow Jan 27, 2021, 4:06 AM

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not latex? not reading it 😌

dapper root Jan 27, 2021, 4:12 AM

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marble solar Is this not latex

It’s John Gabriel hahahahaha you shouldn’t read it anyway

marble solar Jan 27, 2021, 4:14 AM

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Lol

quick hornet Jan 27, 2021, 4:23 AM

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are you dissing the self-proclaimed Greatest Mathematician Since Archimedes?

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swine.

sudden granite Jan 27, 2021, 4:28 AM

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📎 Elementary_Number_Theory_-_David_M._Burton.pdf

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@limber hollow

hasty turret Jan 27, 2021, 4:31 AM

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hmmm

📎 IMG_20210127_100058.jpg

limber hollow Jan 27, 2021, 4:41 AM

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sudden granite

Are you making a statement here.

sudden granite Jan 27, 2021, 4:41 AM

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What do you mean?

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This is a a good book on number theory.

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Maybe this book will motivate you to answer an age old question.

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Are there infinitely many sexy primes?

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hmmm

limber hollow Jan 27, 2021, 6:02 AM

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sudden granite What do you mean?

One step ahead of you on that front.

sudden granite Jan 27, 2021, 6:04 AM

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limber hollow One step ahead of you on that front.

surprisedpikachu

earnest gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:14 AM

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is basic algebra by robert ash a good textbook?

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:15 AM

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I mean if you're gonna buy a textbook from this guy

📎 1486963738-robert_b_ash.png

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go for it

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kiddin check it out

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Don't you have some book preview

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you're looking for it online right

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or have you seen a hardcopy of it

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like a book or buncho papers o it

earnest gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:16 AM

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i bought it and have done chapter 1

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he looks really young to be a mathematician

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i got it in front of me

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:17 AM

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But do you have to be a certain age to be a mathematician?

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books are nice

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pretty pogs

earnest gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:18 AM

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i dont know but plato said you gotta study math in all your 20's to become a philosopher king

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:19 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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This book?

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You have?

earnest gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:19 AM

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yeah

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yes its in front of me

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paper copy

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:19 AM

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oh so not hte actual book?

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Just like copies of pages

earnest gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:19 AM

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no i mean the actual book

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:19 AM

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right

earnest gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:20 AM

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how does one read these books...ive been reading the same pages over and over until i get all the problems

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:20 AM

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Idk I just read books

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and answer questions

earnest gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:21 AM

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i got this one since it was shorter than the others but still covered a lot of topics..i didnt want to have to do 70 problems for each part hah

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might do the longer ones afterwards

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:22 AM

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lmao

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:22 AM

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sudden granite

what hte what

sudden granite Jan 27, 2021, 8:26 AM

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Oof, I can’t see what attachment that is on iPad for some reason

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I assume it’s the snip of Lang

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:26 AM

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it's like

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vey long messages

sudden granite Jan 27, 2021, 8:26 AM

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This?

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https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/716264872018706443/803689125818662913/unknown.png

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:37 AM

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📎 unknown.png

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no

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these

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:38 AM

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sudden granite https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/716264872018706443/803689125818662913/unk...

bruh that ain't even logn

gray gazelle Jan 27, 2021, 8:38 AM

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gray gazelle

this right here