book-recommendations

[trail hemlock]

🥺

[tribal crow]

???

[trail hemlock]

TEACH MEASURE THEORY PLZ

i wanna measure stuff 💔 💔

I WANNA MEASURE STUFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF

[tribal crow]

I have not done any measure theory, nor any analysis beyond what you already know

[trail hemlock]

WE CAN MEASURE STUFF TOGETHER

[tribal crow]

hate to break it to you lol

[trail hemlock]

🥹

[tribal crow]

[trail hemlock]

uhhh

that wasnt phrased correctly

[tribal crow]

wait what

[trail hemlock]

allow me to clarify: i mean sets

[tribal crow]

I was gonna say that

I need to measure my desk before doing any math on it

[trail hemlock]

dude my desk is too small

im going on a quest to ikea

soon

[tribal crow]

uhh, let's move out of here

[trail hemlock]

obby

[fresh skiff]

yes. He did

[heady ember]

You call upon me?

[fresh skiff]

Oh hi Grass.
I was telling Blackbeard if he wanna know more about Schroeder then Grass knows about it. I guess you have studied it right?

[heady ember]

Yes, up to the second chapter on Riemann Integration

not very far into that chapter yet though

Catbread read up till part 2 but stopped

[ashen compass]

Finnegan's wake

[fresh skiff]

Oh I see. I am on second last chapter of Abbott (6th I am not counting 8th one since it is optional lol)
Today I looked in Schroeder maybe I try it.

[ashen compass]

did you know? this James Joyce novel has been adapted into a cartoon entitled "Adventure Time"

[heady ember]

#book-recommendations message

[foggy quest]

he's famous in the pde field

[fresh skiff]

Thank You Grass

I always lose this link lol

[gray gazelle]

Complex analysis?

[hexed jolt]

Recs for a first course in real analysis?

[willow merlin]

did you checked out tao, abbott, pugh or bartle for real anal

[tribal crow]

you might find this pinned message useful
#book-recommendations message

[gray gazelle]

Thank you

[hexed jolt]

Which one of these would be the most beginner friendly?

[willow merlin]

abbott then tao I think

[graceful moon]

Ross is another very gentle introduction to analysis

[foggy quest]

https://mtaylor.web.unc.edu/notes/complex-analysis-course/

[gray gazelle]

Is this legal? All these books for free

[rare apex]

guys

is a "Dog named Money" Is a good book for finance?

[trail hemlock]

well being as that it was published on the author's offical website, i think its ok
moreover, i think these may just be lecture notes and not actual published books

[foggy quest]

I believe most of them are published as books by now, but the content of the books is the same as the notes

[gray gazelle]

Oh I didn't know it's the author's site
Thabk you

[junior isle]

Why brazilian

[mellow wren]

anybody know what's a good resource on hilbert modular forms?

[noble swan]

good book for ap calculus bc ?

im taking it next year and i want to get ahead during summer

[onyx spire]

i want to do some wider reading on maths, particularly stats before starting a-levels, any recommendations?

[trail hemlock]

Larson's Calculus Ap edition is pretty standard

its filled with practice problems

all odd-numbered exercises answer are at :
https://www.calcchat.com

you can find it online pretty easily, including on archive org

[noble swan]

ty so much bro

[tough zealot]

do Carmo is brazilian

[junior isle]

Ah

Me too

[gray gazelle]

Has anyone read Spivak II (Calculus on Manifolds), if I have experience with linear algebra, topology, mvc, and diffeq can i read it? I know what lim and sup are from a proofs and topology class, but I will be taking an actually rudin level exposition concurrently to when i want to read differential geometry

[tribal crow]

Hey there! I'm reading Calculus on Manifolds at this very moment! Your background should be more than sufficient!

I've only got basic analysis knowledge at the level of Spivak's Calculus, and linear algebra at the level of FIS.

so far, the book has been manageable

so with your preparation, you should be solid

[gray gazelle]

That's quite more analysis background than me right now, but I'll try it

[tribal crow]

ehh, if you've done topology you should be fine via math maturity haha

[abstract copper]

If you've done topology why not go for Lee's smooth manifolds?

His prereq is just topology

[north summit]

Can i get some measure theory recommendations?

[loud cradle]

folland is good if a bit dense

[north summit]

is that the with applications book?

[loud cradle]

yea this guy:

[north summit]

I sense that I'm not going to like it

[loud cradle]

what are you criteria, what don't you like about folland

[north summit]

the cover looks ugly

[loud cradle]

it does

any other issues?

[sage python]

Literally judging a book by its cover

[loud cradle]

a friend of mine had the 1st edition which had a much more neutral cover (similar to rudin's PMA)
but also presumably less content
pick your poison

[north summit]

how do i share an image?

[tribal crow]

oh, you probably can't in this channel

try in #chill

and then link it here

[north summit]

no access

[tribal crow]

try in #bots then

and then link it back here

[north summit]

#bots message

like that?

[tribal crow]

yeah

that works

[abstract copper]

Try Axler's. It's friendly.

[north summit]

"Annoying choice of notation and proofs, and shallow presentation of materials
Maybe the author's intention is to make the materials more accessible to students, but the presentation of the materials will leave you unsatisfied. It doesn't convey the deeper part of the theory. Also most proofs don't read smoothly, and the choice of notation is quite annoying. I found that I can't read it. Maybe the author tried too hard to be just different from the existing books, say, Folland.
Some of the exercises are nice though."

[sage python]

Bass Real Analysis for Graduate Students is good

That or Folland probably. Or maybe Big Rudin

[north summit]

can you guys give some explanation for the recommendations you are giving?

[abstract copper]

Bass compliments nicely with Axlers as well

[sage python]

I gave a review of measure theory books in pins where I chat about them a bit

[north summit]

thanks

i'll take a look

[sage python]

I should update the Royden one since apparently a 5th edition has come out

[north summit]

when you write spivak calculus as a requirement

what do you exactly mean?

[sage python]

Like you should know proof-based single variable calculus

[north summit]

i know some proof based calculus up until differntiation

but haven't studied riemman integral

i also know some metric space topology / completness/conectedness/compactness

do you mean i should know as knowing the content or maturity( whatever that means)

[sage python]

Both, but if you also know that then you don't need Royden. Royden kinda does the metric space stuff as it goes

[north summit]

ok

What about An Introduction to Measure Theory by Terence Tao

do you know it?

[sage python]

I've heard of it, namely that it's similar to Stein-Shakarchi 3

[north summit]

Makes sense, he was his doctoral student after all.

One last question. You seem to try to make a point about whether starting with general measures vs lebesgue, could you expand a little bit on that?

[remote sparrow]

https://www.pearson.com/en-us/subject-catalog/p/real-analysis/P200000007113/9780136853473

yep, there is a 5th edition now

[sage python]

Some books kinda only talk about Lebesgue measure on R or R^n, and maybe toward the end say oh now let's define a measure space etc etc

Those who stand by that say oh it's more concrete

But really a lot of these theorems about R^n don't use any of the specifics about R^n, it's just a fact about set systems etc

And I think it's, first more efficient to present things in general right away instead of doing it for Lebesgue and saying "Oh so these generalize, these don't, these with a hypothesis"

Just kind of a mess really. Second I think it's good conceptually/cognitively to know that hey, this fact is about a general measure, so I know that its proof won't be referencing topology at all

Oh this is for Radon measures? Okay so I definitely need to be using the Radon-ness somehow

[north summit]

ok. Thank you very much.

[willow merlin]

whick books gives solved examples of first order exact diff eqs

[remote sparrow]

most mainstream differential equations books i'd say

[willow merlin]

easiest diffeqbook?

[foggy quest]

This book isn't easy, but it is nice and has some solved examples: https://mtaylor.web.unc.edu/wp-content/uploads/sites/16915/2020/10/diffeq.pdf

[willow merlin]

bro are you michael taylor?

[foggy quest]

XD

nope

[willow merlin]

I always see you recommending books by MT

I just wanted to ask

I will take a look at it . ty

[slender cargo]

Oh.. this is the same guy who wrote that well known series of 3 books on partial differential equations

[tribal crow]

it is!

[ashen compass]

I like Evans Gariepy as it starts quite generally, however there are no exercises and lots of details are left out, but it goes quite deep

royden analysis section 3 is also good, but it doesn't start "de novo"

[glad elm]

No exercises? Crazy.

[ashen compass]

it is

[gray gazelle]

Dang I got no Pic perms

Was going to post my amazon order

post it in #chill and link it

#chill message

W books?

[raw light]

any recommendations for undergraduate discrete math self-learning?

thanks

[tender river]

https://www.ams.jhu.edu/ers/books/mathematics-a-discrete-introduction/

[outer wing]

Hey guys! Can anyone please help me decide in between Serge Lang's "A second course in calculus" https://archive.org/details/secondcourseinca00lang/page/n5/mode/2up and Michael Corral's "Vector Calculus" http://www.mecmath.net/VectorCalculus.pdf

for an intro to multivariable calculus.
I've read Short calculus by Serge Lang for single variable calculus and I like it

[gray gazelle]

Helllooo

So I was looking at this

Real and Functional Analysis: 142 (Graduate Texts in Mathematics) https://amzn.in/d/0awWLGeN

And wondering if it will be useful for me

Thing is while I do have a FA Book, it assumes I am comfortable with Measure stuff

Same goes for my Fourier analysis book

Which kinda puts me in a troubled spot ig

[gray gazelle]

I used this.

https://www.bookswagon.com/book/calculus-several-variables-serge-lang/9780387964058?srsltid=AfmBOoof6HfOp-1HADvYyFBkg3ClABhcKKw-M374xcVDwoN4f7Gy2UVGAdA

[outer wing]

How was it?

[gray gazelle]

P good

Made me buy his book on complex analysis

That one was p good too

[outer wing]

second course of calculus is actually the second edition of this book

[gray gazelle]

Idts

[outer wing]

P good means?

[gray gazelle]

Pretty good

[outer wing]

I think it is

[outer wing]

ah okay

[gray gazelle]

The contents are different

Somewhat

[outer wing]

Lemme check then

Alright

[gray gazelle]

This has extra stuff

[outer wing]

The several variables one?

[gray gazelle]

Ye

[outer wing]

It's the later edition, makes sense

extra material like? @gray gazelle

[gray gazelle]

Fourier series

Vector potentials

I'm not sure if it mentions helmholtz theorem

[outer wing]

Ah okay

Thank you :)

[pliant wadi]

What's Steven roman's advanced linear algebra all about? Is it worth reading?

Also, a reco for a challenging introduction into algebraic topology?

It's for a first look but I wanna challenge myself.

Not a book that pointlessly makes things sound difficult

But rather covers stuff that requires effort to get through but is worthwhile the effort.

[tribal crow]

see this post by Dami
#book-recommendations message

[pliant wadi]

Omg thank you so much !

This is great

[willow merlin]

which book covers integral test of convergence for series

[sage python]

Most calc books I'd wager

[gray gazelle]

prolly Stewart's

[gray gazelle]

any source for taylor series?

[north summit]

Any book that covers multivariable calculus but pretty quick. I'm more interested in the calculations than the theory in this case.

Or whatever is useful for a first course of classical differential geometry

[remote sparrow]

https://www.amazon.com/Div-Grad-Curl-All-That/dp/0393925161

also read a standard calculus textbook

[north summit]

Will that help for a course

Based on Do'carmos blue book

?

School i'm applying for the course ( is online) told me that calc 3 was the only prerequisite

[gray gazelle]

who knows a good book on probability

[real furnace]

Has anyone tried rudins functional ?

[loud cradle]

at what level

[gray gazelle]

beghiner

[loud cradle]

yea, i worked through chapters 1-4 last summer

[loud cradle]

ross, a first course in probability is pretty good

[gray gazelle]

ok i will get that

[real furnace]

Oh nice how was it I did some work in folland and kreyszig and found both had some downsides

[real furnace]

What did you like / dislike I know principles of analysis had some annoying exercises

[loud cradle]

i liked it pretty well, the treatment is fairly general, he does topological vector spaces at the start

i found the exercises (at least the ones i attempted) were not excessively hard if you understood the chapter material

the chapters were fairly dense and i found it helpful to write out more detailed proofs of most of the theorems

[real furnace]

Thanks this is really useful info I appreciate it !

Do you know if they go very deep into reproducing kernel hilbert spaces by chance ?

[loud cradle]

he only touches on hilbert spaces a bit, mainly for examples
i think he assumes you've read at least the first half of his previous book real and complex analysis, which has a full chapter on hilbert spaces

(for that matter, it's also helpful if you have read his treatment of banach spaces from RACA)

[real furnace]

Alright cool thanks !

[remote sparrow]

do carmo's book says he expects some linear algebra background, but i'm sure your instructor would be mindful of that

[trail hemlock]

theres a book for this exact purpose! its called baby rudin

[slender cargo]

I mean, technically that book does start from the beginning

[jaunty cedar]

has anyone ever read No Bullshit Guide to Maths & Physics, I was thinking about purchasing it & I wanted your review

& also need a good book for calculus

[gray gazelle]

I am taking calculus 3 (multivariable) soon. I wanted to know the best book for this type of course. I want the book to be more advanced than the course itself. I want the book to give many tough test questions so I do not have any surprises on the final exam.

[willow merlin]

Hi guys I want to learn proof writing but im newbie, should I pick one of this books like how to prove it, or should I start with something else (next year I will be starting uni, and I know the basics of calculus ) unsure which book to pick please ping with reply

[tribal crow]

see this message and the one below it
#book-recommendations message

[willow merlin]

which book for university algebra is best

[tribal crow]

like groups/rings/modules/fields?

[willow merlin]

sure

[tribal crow]

hm, I don't have a recommendation yet

[willow merlin]

no abstract algebra recs?

[tribal crow]

check out this post from Dami
#book-recommendations message

some users here like Pinter too

[willow merlin]

I will check them out, thx

[jaunty cedar]

what about books for calculus

[vague dagger]

this is what we used in our proofs course

[jaunty cedar]

what about my book

[tribal crow]

how much rigour are you looking for?

[willow merlin]

stewart, thomas, spivak

[willow merlin]

thank you i will check it out aswell

[tribal crow]

@jaunty cedar just an fyi, Stewart and Thomas aren't too rigourous, while Spivak is

pick your poison

[gray gazelle]

I am taking calculus 3 for engineers (multivariable) soon. I wanted to know the best book for this type of course. I want the book to be more advanced than the course itself. I want the book to give many tough test questions so I do not have any surprises on the final exam.

[trail hemlock]

spivaks calculus on manifold

https://tenor.com/view/embed-no-no-embed-megamind-megamind-meme-gif-25261934

[tribal crow]

embed perms are only given to users with the Active role or higher(!), or who have boosted the server

if you want to post GIFs, you can use #chill

[trail hemlock]

i don’t think bro likes rudin

[tribal crow]

many people do not, to be fair

[molten mason]

How to prove it is great IMO to start off and have it introduced in isolation and get you thinking in the right way.

After that, it's common for undergrad real analysis and undergrad abstract algebra textbooks to be theme introduction to proof writing. That's where you actually get your exposure and practice.

[molten mason]

Anything in Dami's pin is good. You can use the search function in this channel and search "Pinter" "Jacobson" "Aluffi" etc to see the past conversations about each individual textbook. It's a weekly topic in here and there's many opinions and viewpoints for each one.

[cunning elk]

combinatorics is a gentler intro to proofs imo 🤓

[lime vessel]

Abstract algebra is applied combinatorics

[dapper root]

Fuck you

[modern ruin]

real

[glossy zealot]

How evil

He is taking cal for engineers

Just get the vector calculus book by Colley

[mystic wasp]

went to the library earlier and found out that they had a copy of "calculus with analytic geometry" by simmons, so i immediately borrowed it. i'm planning to start learning calculus because it seems interesting and i'm pretty confident with my precalc stuff, so is this book good?

only thing that i'm not as confident in is analytic geometry since we didn't discuss it in class but i self-studied it and the book has analytic geometry in it

[cunning elk]

i'd imagine it's at least better than st*wart

[onyx spire]

maybe not a book but does anyone have any videos or smth that just explains maths notation, like from simple to complex notation

[brave pebble]

I am in final year of highschool and I want to learn linear algebra for fun whats a good book to gain good conceptual understanding and basics of linear algebra

maybe something similar to calculus made easy by S. Thompson

[gilded olive]

My uni course followed Linear Algebra by Friedberg, Insel and Spence (FIS). I think it is an easy book to self-study from. Also gilbert strang’s linear algebra lectures on yt is a great resource too

[gilded olive]

how long would each chapter in Gallian's book take to read? my goal is to read only part 2 (groups) and i plan to spend somewhere between 20~25 hours per week on it.

[tribal crow]

Gallian chapters don't seem that long, so I would probably place my bets on smth like 2 weeks?

it seems they're absolutely loaded with examples though

[gilded olive]

Idk it looks like I could finish a chapter per week but wanna hear from ppl who’ve read the book too so I can make a reasonable plan

[hollow shore]

Gallian is very easy

[opal fossil]

It's so impossible to know how long anyone will take to read a chapter of any book. I'd say to just set some goals, see how it goes, update based on observations as things play out.

[fresh skiff]

What book will be the suitable for reference for Carothers and rudin?

[wicked fractal]

Maybe Tao

[slender cargo]

Uh... Pugh, Tao, any of the vast amount of analysis books

I feel like if you're already thinking of references though, maybe consider another book? I've never quite understood planning to go through Rudin with the expectation that you won't be able to understand the book

[fresh skiff]

Oh yeah! well I thinking reference as a book which contains fairly same amount of topics but with more explanation and problems (but well rudin has many hard timing giving problems)

[slender cargo]

Right. My question is, why not just go through the book that is easier to understand for you, instead of Rudin? They have the same topics, after all.

[lusty escarp]

Everyone has different taste for books. Just pick up the book and see how it goes for you. If you feel right then continue otherwise try a different book.

[fresh skiff]

the instructor is using Rudin, thats why I have to study it

[slender cargo]

Oh, that's a great reason

haha

Sorry, I assume people here are generally asking for self-study

I hear that Pugh's Real Mathematical Analysis is a good companion to Rudin.

[fresh skiff]

Agreed.

[fresh skiff]

That's totally fine.

Btw thank you guys!

[zinc crater]

hi all

I want to learn number theory

[tender river]

me too

[tender river]

Elementary Number Theroy by Burton seems like a nicely paced book for a total beginner

[zinc crater]

@tender river
Thank you

[uncut crater]

There's complementary notes to Rudin on the web

Try those out

Rudin is a pain in the arse

A better analysis book would be the one by Amann

Metric spaces are better dealt by Simmons, or Searcóid (more hand holding)

[fresh skiff]

Yeah I will try to find some

[fresh skiff]

isn't annoying, atleast in the starting? almost first 100 pages contains various things including Abstract alg

[uncut crater]

A more rounded study of analysis at least

[tender river]

just only read the algebra parts as they come up in the analysis section then lol

most of the algebra section is a definition dump

[fresh skiff]

Agreed!! Well I have pdf of Amann, isn't there big issue if I start from Ch2 ( will study ch1 when I needed)

[tender river]

there are mentions of algebra homomorphisms and ideals in the ch2

[fresh skiff]

Yeah also looks horrible Amann has covered a lot of topics of algebra

[tender river]

but you dont use that for any thing

Only need to look at the definitions and see that this other thing satisfies those definitions

[fresh skiff]

I am familiar with homomorphism (of groups).

Thank You guys!
I will try to use Amann as supplement. (I have heard good comments on Amann so it will be exciting to work with it)

[bold kite]

best calculus books ?

for university , i finished high school and i’ll study computer engineer so i want to be prepared

[molten mason]

Something more theory and abstract, FIS as recommended above, something more modern and more computational with tons of exercises, Elementary Linear Algebra by Howard Anton

[trail hemlock]

what level of rigor are you looking for ? that is, more computations or more proofs ?

for more proofs or more rigor, there are:

• Spivak's Calculus
• Apostol's Calculus: Volume 1
• MacCluer's Honors Calculus
• Lang's A first course in Calculus
  for more computations, any book on this list should suffice:
  https://www.amazon.com/shop/themathsorcerer/list/SKD9TCJQOZAI
  especially Klien's Calculus: An intuitive and physical approach since its pretty cheap and filled with practice problems (its thick as hell)

please note that these are amazon affiliate links, so The Math Sorcerer will make a small percent of the purchase.

[bold kite]

whats the best to start

[trail hemlock]

whats your background with math?

[bold kite]

how i can tell u

it’s wide

im from spain

[trail hemlock]

meaning, what are you looking to learn?

proofs and theory or more computation focused

[bold kite]

computer engineering is based on electrical engineering and computer science

so mathematics that would help me in that

[trail hemlock]

if the former, choose a rigorous book. if the latter, chose from the amazon page

[trail hemlock]

yeah i cant tell you what book will be absolutely perfect for your specific use case.
go for Stewart's Calculus, and see where that gets you

its the classic choice for a lot of people

[bold kite]

thanks brother

so in math we have linear algebra , calculus and what more

is to get the fundamental math books

[trail hemlock]

#book-recommendations message
look at Dami's reviews of Linear Algebra books to make a choice

[bold kite]

thanks

[molten mason]

Do you want text in English or en español?

[bold kite]

english books are considered better so i’d rather prefer them

[molten mason]

Those are mostly all like pure math/abstract type of texts, which is fine, but there's also tons of regular non-math major linear algebra texts too

[trail hemlock]

oh i have a good one

wait

https://www.amazon.com/Linear-Algebra-Its-Applications-5th/dp/032198238X

this is the one my local community college uses

very non math majory

[molten mason]

Spivak's calculus textbook is in both English and Spanish.

It's more rigorous, more for people who study pure-math, but perfectly great for anyone else like computer science, engineering, physics, etc. Great textbook to really learn. You'll need to find another book for Linear Algebra though.

Howard Anton has two textbooks, one called Calculus and one called Elementary Linear Algebra. You can pick any edition in the last 30 years, they're all the same. Those two textbooks will teach you Calculus and Linear Algebra and are geared towards people like engineers and other science degrees who need to be able to do a lot of computations. It's by the same author so you'll be able to learn both topics from a single source.

[bold kite]

guys one question , is a smart move buy the books that are being taught with in elite unuversities ??

[bold kite]

im gonna read it

[bold kite]

im meaning harvard , stanford …

[molten mason]

I mean there's not that many textbooks... there's only a few to pick from.

[gray gazelle]

it’s a decent idea to look a syllabi for uni courses, look at their descriptions and topics covered, and if the approach seems appealing to you, check out the book they use

[molten mason]

I think both of those schools have their own in-house text they use for their own classes, they teach it a certain way, but they're not better

2 + 2 = 4 regardless of the textbook, but popular textbooks will have resources and answers online or in this Discord server. If you picl a textbook not many people use then you'll have less help.

[bold kite]

okay thanks all 3

[slender cargo]

Yeah, that's partly why I chose to study out of Axler's LADR. I know I can find answers and help easily

Granted... most of the material at that level is shared between books

[vocal oracle]

Does anyone know some books on real analysis that are good for introductory couses?

[remote sparrow]

#book-recommendations message

[strange sentinel]

The universities being prestigious doesn't make the books they use any better

[bold kite]

thank you akhi

[vocal oracle]

Thank you

[uncut crater]

LA books, like algebraic geometry, can never be enough

Misquoting on purpose, I think it was Lang who claimed that one can write endlessly on elliptic curves

[gray gazelle]

you definitely can, even with crypto alone

[gray gazelle]

not me currently writing LA notes lol

[uncut crater]

I've read a lot, to realize that LADR + Golan + Greub is the best combo one can hope to complete during their undergrad

Which is annoying, because all three of them have nothing to say about modules

Blyth does a good job introducing them, however the algebraic prerequisites creep in later on

[gray gazelle]

Do modules qualify as linear algebra?

[uncut crater]

To an algebraist like me, yes

Maybe a third course

[gray gazelle]

I feel like that’s just proper algebra at that point

[uncut crater]

Or second

[trail hemlock]

i wanna do advanced linalg

[gray gazelle]

At least in my view, “linear algebra” refers to the especially nice theory of vector spaces

[trail hemlock]

but idk enough abstract alg

im nearly done with lang LA which is a plus

[gray gazelle]

what do you mean by advanced?

[trail hemlock]

roman's book

advanced linalg

[gray gazelle]

just jump into it

you’ll be fineeee

[uncut crater]

I have a personal hatred for matrix computational first courses in LA, it was pathetic having to calculate the RREFS and inverses and whatnot of 5x5 matrices

I scored a B. Hated it

[gray gazelle]

agreed

[trail hemlock]

erm akchually im scared of it rn

[uncut crater]

Roman is actually good

Tried it

A bit too terse

But supplement it with Blyth's notes

[trail hemlock]

i think im gonna focus on analysis atm

[uncut crater]

This world would've been beautiful if everyone started with rings first

[gray gazelle]

I’ve been trying to write some LA notes developing as much as possible without mentioning matrices at all

[uncut crater]

Oooh whatchu reading up on?

[trail hemlock]

rudin rn

baby

[uncut crater]

Axler 2.0

Rudin 💀 😭

[trail hemlock]

its good 😭

[uncut crater]

Well

[trail hemlock]

bro my chem teacher got soo mad i was reading rudin during class

[uncut crater]

That's fucking based

[trail hemlock]

(prob the reason i nearly got a B in chem )

[uncut crater]

YOURE IN HIGHSCHOOL?

Holy heck

[trail hemlock]

wait till bro learns abt arti

[uncut crater]

Who's arti

[trail hemlock]

this one mf

anwyay this is kinda off topic

[uncut crater]

👀

[trail hemlock]

im gonna go finish some problems

[tribal crow]

agreed, the computational parts of LA are pretty boring

[wind oriole]

Anyone read 1Q84?

[slender cargo]

Why does 1984 get mentioned so much in this server?

[tribal crow]

we have a sticker for it

[slender cargo]

Oh I see lol

well then

[molten mason]

Roman devotes a few chapters to it

[normal crystal]

that's not the book he asked about though

[slender cargo]

Oh you're right. I thought it was a typo

(it's still related to the year 1984)

[molten mason]

Because we're living it

[molten mason]

Are you not doing Yeh?

[trail hemlock]

yeh no

someone told me to branch out and learn more math before tackling measure theory

and my proofs are nowhere near good enough to advance

[molten mason]

That's fair actually

[trail hemlock]

so im moving sideways and getting more maturity

before i move to more advanced stuff

[molten mason]

After Rudin jump into this

[trail hemlock]

haha fuck no

the goal is to read lang's algeba when school starts

[strange sentinel]

What u want

[trail hemlock]

😭

[uncut crater]

Hi

[uncut crater]

Why tho

Of all the texts you could've picked up

[trail hemlock]

learn algebra and gain maturity

[uncut crater]

Not from lang

And I definitely don't agree

[sturdy shore]

what is your algebra background

[trail hemlock]

i dont wanna do measure theory unless i can appreciate it from a lot of different perspectives

yk

at least, thast what someone told me

and so i was like alright

[uncut crater]

Dude, measure theory doesn't need algebra

[trail hemlock]

lang's LA

[strange sentinel]

Pick a different book lol

[trail hemlock]

and thast it 😬

[uncut crater]

It needs analysis, at most

[strange sentinel]

Try Aluffi or DF

[sturdy shore]

yeah no

you dont read lang algebra if you don't know algebra

[uncut crater]

Yep, that's fair

[trail hemlock]

in arti we trust

[uncut crater]

Lang writes terrible books

[trail hemlock]

DF is the classical choice for abs alg, no?

[strange sentinel]

@molten mason

[tender river]

you can always go for Jacobson

[uncut crater]

With SL(2, R) being the only exception

[sturdy shore]

DF is one classical choice, yes

[strange sentinel]

Yeah but Aluffi is more fun imo

[trail hemlock]

are they about equal in difficulty?

[sturdy shore]

I recommend Aluffi's notes from the underground, from the little I've read

[uncut crater]

D&F has more standard exercises

[strange sentinel]

It's easier than chapter 0

[uncut crater]

Aluffi has category theory

[strange sentinel]

It's well written, but easier

[uncut crater]

That itself might take time to digest

[trail hemlock]

i want some interesting exercises

[strange sentinel]

It also covers less, if I remember correctly

[molten mason]

@trail hemlock

#book-recommendations message

[trail hemlock]

not like rudin but interesting

[uncut crater]

Aluffi then, dummy has routine problems

[trail hemlock]

i think ily

[tribal crow]

what're our thoughts on Jacobson I and II?

[trail hemlock]

WDYM BLEAK

[strange sentinel]

This is a question I'd ask Miz

[trail hemlock]

its a compliment smfh

[uncut crater]

Interesting read

The only worrisome bit being the inverse notation

[sturdy shore]

not the ug book

chapter 0 has categories

[strange sentinel]

You need (or, technically, should have) a first exposure to analysis for measure stuff, but you don't need algebra

[strange sentinel]

Don't think I've heard about this

[uncut crater]

Otherwise, it's a good replacement to Hungerford and Lang (heck, i think it's toe to toe against Bourbaki)

[trail hemlock]

thoughts on knapp?

[strange sentinel]

What did Jacobson do with inverse notation

[trail hemlock]

its for maturity. my proof writing is not near the level that I want it to be

[strange sentinel]

This is fair

[uncut crater]

Yeah, he uses the left to right notation for group multiplication

Composition to be precise

[trail hemlock]

also, to my understanding, algebra is fun. ill do it in parallel with Tao 2

[strange sentinel]

Ew

[uncut crater]

Exactly

[sturdy shore]

knapp is kinda weird imo, at parts I think it is great but he has a weird sense of what to spend time detailing

also he could get better at latex tbh

[uncut crater]

Knapp is Artin on steroids

[sturdy shore]

also, knapp is also grad level

[uncut crater]

I tried a printed copy of Knapp and god fucking dammit the text had the tiniest letters

[sturdy shore]

oh, artin is another good one

[trail hemlock]

ok gimme the final word on an abs alg book with interesting exercises that isnt too easy or simple

[uncut crater]

Do more analysis instead

[strange sentinel]

Aluffi

[sturdy shore]

yeah, his latex is smol

[strange sentinel]

Or just do analysis lol

Especially if the goal is measure stuff

[tender river]

Jacobson

[trail hemlock]

my algebra is super weak tho... i wanna learn more algebra

[uncut crater]

Bourbaki

[tender river]

Rotman is cool too

[trail hemlock]

final word doesnt mean 20 words yall

smh

[strange sentinel]

Lmao

[sturdy shore]

I think aluffi's underground book or artin are the best choices I've seen

[trail hemlock]

its fine, ill pick a book closure to when i actually learn the subject lmfao

doesnt matter rn

[sturdy shore]

well, you will have to pick
there is rarely one good math book to choose especially topics at a ug level

[uncut crater]

At the cost of rigor

Try to find books that deal with intuition; algebra texts are notorious for not being intuitive

[tender river]

@prime dune tell him about Jacobson

[molten mason]

We all have different opinions. Welcome to the world

[sturdy shore]

bro calling for reinforcements

[uncut crater]

Lmao

[molten mason]

@violet shuttle tell him about Lang

[tender river]

what can you do this is a pedestrian server with some pedestrian reccs...

[uncut crater]

LMAO I read that in the pins

[sturdy shore]

classic

[uncut crater]

Did dude just rage and leave server lmao

Truly a moment

[sturdy shore]

idr if he left immediately but he did stop typing

[tribal crow]

what happened

[molten mason]

His message is directly referencing Lang's Algebra too lmfao

[tribal crow]

who?

[molten mason]

#book-recommendations message

[tribal crow]

ah, right

[uncut crater]

Wait a second

Am i tripping or that person wrote the same thing about Lang as me

That's a sick coincidence

😭

[strange sentinel]

Why were you talking about me...

[strange sentinel]

Lol

[uncut crater]

Oh, he mentioned someone in highschool

[strange sentinel]

Oh, me?

[uncut crater]

I checked a few past msgs and i was genuinely impressed

[sturdy shore]

proof that you aren't pedestrian

[uncut crater]

Yep

[molten mason]

I mean it's a common opinion in this server

[slender cargo]

To be fair this server has a strong slant towards Lang!

[sturdy shore]

does it?

[slender cargo]

I swear I see Lang recommended every other day

[molten mason]

I don't feel that vibe at all lol

There's only like 4 of us

[strange sentinel]

They're all salagos or his disciples

[molten mason]

From the same 4 people

[molten mason]

The Salagi

[slender cargo]

There should be a Lang tag

Or yes, Salagi

[strange sentinel]

Lang shill role

[slender cargo]

Lang shill would be good

[prime dune]

A bit terse and a bit fast paced but rewarding exercises and some proofs are really nice. In particular his guided proofs are great

[sturdy shore]

I only see his algebra book mentioned often enough and opinions about it are a mixed bag

[trail hemlock]

ok

its set

in tone

stone

[tender river]

okay now say the same thing to the person that needs to hear that

[trail hemlock]

ill do jackobson

[uncut crater]

no awuffi 🥺

[molten mason]

Let's be real, he'll probably change his mind again, he still has a little while to go

[strange sentinel]

Amukh core

[uncut crater]

Might drop the idea of studying algebra completely

[slender cargo]

I think Blackbeard will eventually settle on Artin once he sees that it covers linear algebra as well

[uncut crater]

Lmao

[trail hemlock]

alr did lang la no need

[slender cargo]

How far are you in that book?

[molten mason]

That's why I buy physical bools, so then I cant change my mind

[trail hemlock]

thirds way done

[slender cargo]

That's 2/3rds that could be covered by Artin...

[trail hemlock]

yall are bad people

[uncut crater]

Lmao 😭

[trail hemlock]

confusing me smh

[uncut crater]

Child, do bourbaki and all shall be good with you

[strange sentinel]

😭

[molten mason]

Do Lang and be better than arti

[strange sentinel]

I do stuff that's better than algebra though

Honestly if you read all of lang you would probably be better at algebra than me

[slender cargo]

honestly though I'm always for books with more exposition and examples if you're self studying, or whichever books have a lot of online support, which doesn't sound like Artin or Jacobson

[uncut crater]

Pinter and Gallian serve that purpose

Or...

[slender cargo]

Yeah I would've said either Gallian or D&F

[uncut crater]

D&F 💀

[strange sentinel]

Pinter is best for someone that hasn't really done pure math before imo

If you have some maturity I think there are better options

[slender cargo]

I like Gallian because there's answers in the back of the book

[trail hemlock]

idt thats possible

[trail hemlock]

ehh i have some maturity i jus wanna get that shit up

maturity maxx, if you will

[violet shuttle]

lang

assuming you found D&F too easy

[trail hemlock]

no nono

[violet shuttle]

and are mathematically mature

[trail hemlock]

intro to abs alg

[violet shuttle]

and don't mind the "interesting exercises" part as much

[violet shuttle]

yes, Lang's Algebra is an introduction

[molten mason]

Anything is intro if you're based enough

[trail hemlock]

yall are twewaking

10 recs from 10 diff people

😭

[violet shuttle]

i've been tweaking longer than you've been alive

[trail hemlock]

anyway the point is to build maturity, seeing as when I start doing abs alg, i will have finished lang's LA

[molten mason]

Iirc in Algebra he states a good pre-req is his LA book lol

He also has an undergrad algebra text

[trail hemlock]

and i will probably be like halfway done with big jech if it really matters

[uncut crater]

Are you working on mod p local Langlands by any chance?

[uncut crater]

Ah yes

[trail hemlock]

i wanna learn the fun stuff perchance

[uncut crater]

Can't post media here but there's a funny exchange between Ribet and Lang

[trail hemlock]

anyway unless its way out of my league, i think ill stick with this

[uncut crater]

Specific emphasis on determinants

[trail hemlock]

perhaps in parallel with folland

[uncut crater]

[trail hemlock]

the prereq for measure theory, according to rudin, is chapters 1-7 of baby rudin

[uncut crater]

Nope

Dive into measure theory

Learn the lebesgue integral first

Study the Riemann integral as a special case

[trail hemlock]

yall are confusing me

:(

[uncut crater]

🙂

[trail hemlock]

u opp

[peak axle]

April 15 1707

[trail hemlock]

euler's bday/

3 days after mine....guys its a sign

[peak axle]

yes

i

Look at this

I posted it on another server

[slender cargo]

Is this math?

[trail hemlock]

does this justify a modping

[peak axle]

maybe….

for the first question

[violet shuttle]

No

Blackbeard is just even younger thab me

[strange sentinel]

Does this have anything to do with book recommendations

[strange sentinel]

You're all old

[willow merlin]

best book for nt?

[strange sentinel]

What kind

[willow merlin]

elementary nt

[uncut crater]

Your roles include rep and diff geo so i assumed

[violet shuttle]

the number kind arti

[trail hemlock]

arti you are what? 1 year younger than me

[strange sentinel]

Oh damn you're right

[trail hemlock]

2?

[uncut crater]

MONT

[trail hemlock]

but ur like 10 years ahead

i dont wanna hear it from you

if anything ur older than me

grandpa

[strange sentinel]

Landau is nice

[violet shuttle]

yeah my point being that i have not been tweaking in that direction for long enough to get close

[uncut crater]

I'm curious, what do u work in?

[strange sentinel]

Is langlands the goal?

[uncut crater]

Braid groups?

[violet shuttle]

no

[strange sentinel]

Xela is an undergrad

[violet shuttle]

I work in thumb twiddling

[trail hemlock]

🤓 ☝️ this is not related to the discussion of books

[uncut crater]

So am I but that shouldn't stop anyone

[violet shuttle]

While the postdoc tries to make the thing work

Portal to #math-discussion

Zoom-
#math-discussion message

[strange sentinel]

What are these

[violet shuttle]

it's a portal

we wish to move discussion to a different channel

[strange sentinel]

Oh they're discussion channels

[violet shuttle]

and unlike some servers, we don't seem to have a way to automatically create portals like this upon innovation of a bot command

[molten mason]

#book-recommendations message

[willow merlin]

tyvm sir

[gray gazelle]

uhm

can someone tell me if this is any good

https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-1-4612-0897-6

[sage python]

It does look nifty at a glance

[gray gazelle]

im looking at the integration chapter it has

looks kinda ass icl

[molten mason]

It's good to me

[gray gazelle]

wait this is from that book?

have u read it?

[molten mason]

I'm reading it right now, as we type

[gray gazelle]

thing is

i havent done measure theory

[sage python]

You can do a bit of functional without much measure theory

[gray gazelle]

the other FA book i have assumes measure theory knowledge

[sage python]

The main thing about measure theory is that it gives the example of L^p spaces

But my undergrad analysis class did functional first and just stuck to l^p spaces

[gray gazelle]

do u think axler's measure theory book could cover whatever i need for FA

bcz i kinda like the FA book i alr have

dont wanna spend 4k more

[sage python]

Our book (we didn't follow it too closely but still) was "Elements of Functional Analysis" by Kolmogorov-Fomin

[gray gazelle]

this doesnt even sell here where i live 😭

[sage python]

Unfortunate

[molten mason]

I don't know enough to know if this book will cover 100% of what I need or if I'll need to go through another FA book later, but this textbook is written with only requiring undergrad real analysis knowledge as a background, so if you've already done any real analysis text you'll be fine

[gray gazelle]

this one i have

is functional analysis, sobolev spaces and partial diff eqs by Haim Brezis

[sage python]

Ah Brezis

[gray gazelle]

i like it a lot bcz of the PDEs section

which is v useful to me

[sage python]

Yeah grad functional uses that

And I referenced undergrad functional a bit

If you already have Brezis then I'll say just find a measure theory book

[gray gazelle]

is axler good?

for measure?

[sage python]

Try "Real Analysis for Graduate Students" by Richard Bass

[remote sparrow]

yes

[gray gazelle]

ik axler for lin alg is good

[sage python]

Idk Axler's book well enough to say but I like Bass

[remote sparrow]

yes

[gray gazelle]

but idk about measure theory

[gray gazelle]

ah

lovely

[gray gazelle]

lemme google

[remote sparrow]

both bass and axler are free on the web

you could just look through both

[gray gazelle]

Dami

none of the books you tell me sell here 😭

[remote sparrow]

where is "here"

[gray gazelle]

i need to pay import duties to get this one

[loud cradle]

i think bass is kind of ass, i don't really trust it

[gray gazelle]

india

[uncut crater]

Bhai

Print karle

[gray gazelle]

but

i like books

[remote sparrow]

you can ask @fierce hedge which print shops will print books for you

[remote sparrow]

why?

[uncut crater]

🥺🥺🥺

[gray gazelle]

the pun is funny

[loud cradle]

iirc i looked up the fubini theorem and it's stated incorrectly, lemme see if i can find it

[remote sparrow]

in the 2022 version?

[uncut crater]

Which college are u in btw @gray gazelle ?

[remote sparrow]

you can send the guy an email if you want

[gray gazelle]

isnt that just the switching the integrals one

[gray gazelle]

i dont study in india

i just live here

[loud cradle]

i mean (1) through (4) are only true almost everywhere

[sage python]

Bass is free online

[uncut crater]

Ooh, undergrad?

[gray gazelle]

yea

[sage python]

Not even pirated but free on the author's website

[uncut crater]

Wow, how tf did u get in 😭

[gray gazelle]

oh ok

[loud cradle]

it says version 2.1, whenever that is from

[gray gazelle]

i had nice ECs ig

[remote sparrow]

the latest version is version 4.3

https://bass.math.uconn.edu/real.html

[uncut crater]

ECs?

[gray gazelle]

extracurriculars

[loud cradle]

ah, i didn't know it was updated, i'll check that one

[gray gazelle]

?

[uncut crater]

Ah still

I've heard math in France is pretty brisk

Probably a bit too fast paced for someone like me

[gray gazelle]

also wanted to ask

https://link.springer.com/book/10.1007/978-0-85729-073-1

[sage python]

The standard in measure theory is Folland

[gray gazelle]

is this any good

for someone doing diff geo n fluids

it looked interesting

so i thought i could go through it once diff geo is over for me

[sage python]

I don't know that topic so I can't say

[gray gazelle]

fair

icl its v niche idk why its an undergrad book

[remote sparrow]

universitext books are pitched to masters students

[gray gazelle]

eh

i like the topic

it looks interesting

[tribal crow]

really? I thought they were were UGs

[dense pumice]

Hey, any recommendations for self-teaching differential geometry?

[remote sparrow]

https://www.springer.com/series/0223

[tribal crow]

ah, so it is

[remote sparrow]

how much math do you already know? or do you just want to do curves and surfaces

[gray gazelle]

pressley is a good start

[gray gazelle]

pressley doesnt require topology

i think they can do pressley

[remote sparrow]

maybe they want a more sophisticated treatment

[gray gazelle]

loring tu

[remote sparrow]

aside from pressley, do carmo and tapp are good choices

[gray gazelle]

if u want like proper

diff geo

loring tu imho is the best

[dense pumice]

I've done real analysis, undergrad level abstract algebra, a decent amount of calc and ODEs

[remote sparrow]

o'neill looks good too

[gray gazelle]

by RA do u mean baby RA

or measure theory

[dense pumice]

Done Baby RA and currently studying introductory measure theory

[gray gazelle]

yo

high five

🖐️

[dense pumice]

✋

[gray gazelle]

do like

an into to tops book

u can skip to loring tu

[dense pumice]

Oh I have also done some intro topology

[remote sparrow]

you can read lee's Introduction to Topological Manifolds for the necessary topology

[dense pumice]

Though very much intro intro

[remote sparrow]

oh yeah you can read tu's book

[gray gazelle]

do yk what connectedness is?

and what topological gluing is?

if so, u can use loring tu

[dense pumice]

Connectedness is whether a two disjoint subsets of the topology can cover the main set ye?

Gluing idk

A book my supervisor mentioned is John M. Lee's "Introduction to Smooth Manifolds"

[gray gazelle]

not subsets

two disjoint elements of the topology

[uncut crater]

Lee's trilogy

[gray gazelle]

topology's elements are open sets

[dense pumice]

Yeah yeah, because the union of any subset of the topology is in the topology

[gray gazelle]

topology's subsets are collections of open sets

alternatively you can call them an open cover of a subset of your topological space

[dense pumice]

Is "Introduction to Smooth Manifolds" the first in that trilogy?

[gray gazelle]

gluing helps u understand how to construct stuff like say

a cifford torus

[tribal crow]

it's a quartet now, actually!

[uncut crater]

Assuming you've done topology, yes

[tribal crow]

Introduction to Complex Manifolds is a thing now

[uncut crater]

Oh shoot, forgot about his fourth book

Yep

Love that guy

[tribal crow]

me too

[uncut crater]

Christian Bär also has a good book on diff geo

I might have misspelt the name

[gray gazelle]

lorentzian manifolds >>>

[dense pumice]

ty ty all

[uncut crater]

Hey

You might like nomizu Kobayashi too

Yk

[dense pumice]

Does this mean there is one before "Intro to Smooth Manifolds" that's good if I don't know much topology?

[uncut crater]

[uncut crater]

Yep, the topological manifolds book is simply a topology book with emphasis on manifolds

Do I recommend it? Sadly no

[dense pumice]

Okay cool cool

ah

[uncut crater]

There's munk for top

[dense pumice]

Okay well I'm sure I've got at least 2 topology books on this computer already

[tribal crow]

why not?

[tribal crow]

I have a dozen

[uncut crater]

Just didn't like it for some reason lmao

[tribal crow]

fair enough

[uncut crater]

My first exposure to top was the book by sasha

Insert a long serbian (?) surname

[dense pumice]

Man I really need to clean up my textbook folder

[tribal crow]

oh, mine is unbelievably disorganized

@molten mason what's yours like?

[dense pumice]

Definitely some missing, probably buried in my university folders somewhere

[tribal crow]

I probably have half a thousand textbook pdfs now

actually, likely more

[dense pumice]

My university folders are very well organized though

[tribal crow]

I didn't keep track

Salagos has... I forget

a few thousand?

[sage python]

Lol I got a new laptop lately so I don't yet have many books on there or have thought about how I wanna organize

[molten mason]

Alphabetical by textbook title lol

[tribal crow]

mine is alphabetical by the author title

cause I put the author first

[molten mason]

I have the author name in the title, just at the end, so if I want to search say "Lee" they'll all pop up

[tribal crow]

Textbook - Author?

I do Author - Textbook

[dense pumice]

Oh hey, Lee's "Intro to Smooth Manifolds" actually has a chapter on Lie Groups, which is part of why diffgeo is near the top of my self-study list rn

[molten mason]

One folder

I've been meaning to sort it into topics like Jay but I'm lazy

And honestly there's no need.

[uncut crater]

Interestinf

[sage python]

I do [Author] Title

That way if the title has two parts I can still use a dash

(Also since you can't put : in the file name)

[sage python]

Yeah thing is I don't even know how I'd partition precisely

[dense pumice]

My current partitioning is failing me

[trail hemlock]

shes the only lie group i know 😔

[uncut crater]

damn

[remote sparrow]

it's Introduction to Topological Manifolds

[dense pumice]

I was asking because Smooth Manifolds is currently open in my pdf app

Although apparently I can't share pictures in this channel with my current roles 😛

[tribal crow]

Topological -> Smooth -> Riemmanian -> Complex is the quartet

[gray gazelle]

I have 2 as well

but diff subjects

one is on

Intro to topology

the other is on differential topology

[drowsy nacelle]

any recs on algebraic combinatorics

[tribal crow]

@hallow oriole all you lol

[remote sparrow]

@mossy flume

[mossy flume]

Sagan's The Symmetric Group is a good UG level look at the basics of representation theory and associated combinatorics of the symmetric group.
I've heard good things about Representation Theory of the Symmetric Groups - Ceccherini-Silberstein, Scarabotti, Tolli but I've never really looked at it.
Fulton's Young Tableaux is a nice look at some combintorial ideas of representation theory as well as algebraic geometry, not quite UG level but very approachable.
Alot of people will recommend Stanley's Enumerative Combinatorics I and II but to me these are more encyclopedic than good for learning. He has an UG text called "Algebraic Combinatorics" which is nice.

[drowsy nacelle]

got it, ill look into these

thanks a lot

[mossy flume]

I really like Sagan's text and Fulton's text I think those are fantastic starts

there's a good amount of overlap between the two

[drowsy nacelle]

i think thats where ill start, i have experience with algebra but not much with representation theory

[mossy flume]

ok then Stanley's UG text and Sagan's text are perfect starts

if you want something tangentially related and more algorithmic, Ideals, Varieties, and Algorithms by Cox, Little, and O'Shea talks about some algorithmic problems in commutative algebra / algebraic geometry

I find that many people who are interested in algebraic combinatorics also like the stuff in there

[drowsy nacelle]

is this something i would need/benefit from algebraic geometry background for

[mossy flume]

benefit, sure but need absolutely not

the only background it assumes is linear algebra

[drowsy nacelle]

oh nice

[mossy flume]

so you knowing abstract algebra is already a head start

[tribal crow]

linear algebra mentioned!

[drowsy nacelle]

yeah i see

[mossy flume]

do u have any idea how low a bar that is lol

[drowsy nacelle]

it definitely sounds interesting to me

[mossy flume]

yea it's fun stuff

[tribal crow]

yes, I do!

dw, I lurk all the adv channels

I'm well aware

[mossy flume]

I know I'm just meming

[tribal crow]

#combinatorial-structures is arcane magic to me.

[mossy flume]

relevant reference

[mossy flume]

same

[tribal crow]

[trail hemlock]

lots of big words (idk what they mean tho)

[tribal crow]

I tried to brainstorm some graph theory stuff with Austin once, cause he asked me to

I didn't get very far

[trail hemlock]

graph theory is so cool

i know the basic basic basic stuff

but i like

guys jacobson is "basic algebra I" and not "lectures in abstract algebra" right

[tribal crow]

correct

[trail hemlock]

[remote sparrow]

the former is an updated version of the latter

[trail hemlock]

sour drop my savior

ty

[fierce hedge]

Are you really using Jacobson for intro algebra?

[trail hemlock]

no its for when i finish lang's la

[fierce hedge]

Ia is linear algebra right?

[trail hemlock]

ye

[fierce hedge]

So you will be using Jacobson for abstract algebra?

[trail hemlock]

its dami's "personal favorite" and thats all i neeed to hear

💯

[trail hemlock]

yes

[fierce hedge]

Oh boi

[tribal crow]

I know that Miz is using Jacobson as an intro to AA, but it seems to be quite hard lmao

[fierce hedge]

I should just say don't, in my experience it's terse asf

Like there's no wasted words

[trail hemlock]

like rudin

[fierce hedge]

It's worse imo

[bleak bone]

hello, is anyone having Class 12th RD Sharma vol1 and vol2 pdf?

[trail hemlock]

u cannot ask for pdfs here

[tribal crow]

unless they're free!

[bleak bone]

okayy sorryy

[trail hemlock]

its against discord ToS, and more importantly, not legal

[tribal crow]

like Axler or Bass

[trail hemlock]

(not that people here dont download em anyway lmfao)

[fierce hedge]

Again worse or better is subjective but yeah, I'll suggest you try Robert Ash first, nice compact cheap Dover book with answers at back

[trail hemlock]

doesnt someone here have the entire springer UG book thing downloaded?

[trail hemlock]

[fierce hedge]

It's called Printster, for future reference

[trail hemlock]

wowzers

do i ask my family in delhi to ship me some books ?

i think so...

[fierce hedge]

You can, in fact it is located in Delhi

[trail hemlock]

yeah i read the thing

anyway this is kinda off topic

and i have some practice problesm to do anyway

cya

also numpy i dont see u in analysis class anymore 😔

😭

[fierce hedge]

I have a PhD interview in some days and another exam also

[trail hemlock]

good luck

[fierce hedge]

Thanks

[tribal crow]

good luck!

[fierce hedge]

Thanks

[tribal crow]

[remote sparrow]

it's onto?

[fierce hedge]

My spelling skills have gone to shambles

[tribal crow]

my spelling skills have always been bad

[dim sierra]

Do they just print any PDF even if it’s pirated?

[fierce hedge]

They don't care, there are a printing service. They'll print almost anything you send them.

[dim sierra]

Wow

[trail hemlock]

10,000 pages of black ink

[molten mason]

Yes, but legally

[trail hemlock]

right

it’s 250 books right

[molten mason]

Sure

[junior isle]

Who does

[tribal crow]

you.

or was it the GTM you have?

[molten mason]

I have a majority of both lmao

Idk the exact number

[molten mason]

If you're a university student Springer allows free pdf downloads of any of their textbooks

[junior isle]

How

[molten mason]

Literally click any textbook on Springer and it's right there

[junior isle]

I didn't know that

Thanks

[trail hemlock]

wonder if my school will pay for this

[molten mason]

What school

[trail hemlock]

mine

hs

[molten mason]

Oh probably not lmfao

What university are you planning on attending

There are only two high schools in the list
Jericho high school and weston high school

[modern ruin]

WHAT

i’m literally about to download literally every springer book in existence

[tribal crow]

how did you of all people not know this?

also, it's not any of their textbooks

but it's a lot

[modern ruin]

idk i’m usually very good at obtaining books