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I have no idea how to go about solving this. Thanks! It's question 3b
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How do you isolate the trig expression? I understand using the unit circle after.
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$4 \cos x = -2$
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$\cos x =- \frac 2 4$
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$\cos x = - \frac 1 2$
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where is x
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anyone help
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Hi, @alpine sable . Why don't you start by telling me where you are stuck?
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I'm practicing for a quiz and need this question answered so I can compare it to the answers sheet.
https://gyazo.com/3f77e6947d5d172a7df392e7436d7647
I'm doing Simplify algebraic expressions.
you realize that (a) this is an open-ended question and (b) we don't give out answers here, right?
Could you give instructions on how to do this specific one?
write down an expression in r. it can be any expression you like, but keep in mind that it'll form an equation for you to solve, so act accordingly.
evaluate this expression at r=5.
then write down your expression, followed by the equals sign, followed by the value you got.
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I dont get how 1/(y-1)^2 becomes
1/x-2
I thought u have to divide x-2 by (y-1)^2
How did numerator on the right side goes to numerator on the left side🥲
they took the reciprocal of each side/raised each side to the power of -1. An alternative way to look at is that they multiplied each side by (y-1)^2/(x-2).
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please start another channel
for a find the gradient/slope of l_1
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I need help so badly. I have this Equation but i need to change it to get this one.
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hi i require some help with this question where the recurrence relationship given in the solutions doesn't make sense I can't seem to make sense of it either
it's question e
this is the solution given in the scheme
But when i apply it, it works up to u2 for the first one but then fails immediately after for u3
As the n squared sequence goes 1, 4, 9, 16
+2n+1, not +2u_n + 1
if you look carefully at the formula, it is for u_(n+1), so for u_3 it is n=2
the formula comes from the fact (n+1)² = n² + 2n + 1
Right but how would you realise this after being given just n squared as the sequence
experience and practice. You recognise things
try to express the next term as a function of the previous term
Oh ok so its like now that ive seen this, next time i see un=n^2 I will know that its relationship is un + 2n + 1
it's not about having seen everything, but when you do enough math you're able to see similarities
you get an intuition for how to tackle problems
always look at checks, then captures, then attacks. In math you also assimilate general rules that help guide you the right way
Man im dreading the maths im gnna have to learn for physics at uni
But things like this should make it easier
like how would you find the recurrence relation for u_n = 2^(2^n) ?
Wtf is that abomination im currently trying to find one for n cubed to test if i understood this
n^3 is the more logical continuation yes
this is to apply that idea of expressing the next term as a function of the previous one(s) at a slightly higher level
but it's not a complicated formula
Just gimme a sec ill attempt that too after i can get this
you can also do a general recurrence relation for n^k for any constant k when you've seen the binomial theorem
,rotate 90
less than 5 short lines
the binomial theorem is basically the theorem that gives you the formula for these coefficients, like 2 and 1 in 2n+1, or 3, 3, 1 in 3n²+3n+1
Ohhhh
Thats what it is
Funny cuz binomial is the next topic im doing after im finished with this
The binomial theorem states that $$(a+b)^n = \sum_{k=0}^n \binom{n}{k} a^k b^{n-k}$$ where $$\binom{n}{k} = \frac{n!}{k! (n-k)!}$$ and are called binomial coefficients, which you will see a lot because of how often you put things to different powers, or that combinatorics get involved
themateo713
Gimme sec bro the earlier question you gave is giving me a stroke trying to figure it out 😂
it's not always because there is an answer in few lines that that answer is easy to reach
Ok so
For the un question
I noticed that when you put in the powers
You get this
it's also not bad to know a few powers of 2 yes
since they're all powers of 2, how about you just focus on the sequences of powers ? Setting u_n = 2^(v_n) and looking for that sequence v_n ? It should have a simpler formula
though actually I'm not sure it helps to find the recurrence relation
it's a step in the right way, but it's a longer path at the end of the day
how would you express 2^8 as a function of 2^4 ? 2^16 as a function of 2^8 ?
getting close
Ohhhh
Ok ok
I think i see it
Gimme a sec
Mannn
This is so sad
I feel like im on the border of getting it
But then i try something and it just doesnt work
Including un in the power just doesnt seem to work
what's a*a for any a ?
so since 2^8 = u3 and 2^16 = u^4, does that give you an idea ?
I git ut
It
I was thinking wrong
I had 2 as the base for the powers
And kept trying to make it work
The answer is just (un)^2
U1 = 4
yes
What the hell man
could you write a proof of that ?
This?
like $u_{n+1} = (n+1)² = n²+2n+1 = u_n + 2n + 1$ but with this sequence
themateo713
a proof has at least as much generality as the property it seeks to prove
See the thing is i have no clue where you got (n+1)^2 from for that previous one i just applied the same thing to cubed to get the recurrence relationship
as it turns out, a sequence of real numbers is just a function from N to R presented differently, emphasizing more the idea of succession than that of a graph or a mapping
so it's just plugging in values
Sorry what is the un for this one
Nvm found it
Yo
I did some working
And got this
Bottom right
I'm not sure what's at the end (it's a bit too pixelated) but I don't think the last line is correct
why a product all of a sudden
Cause i used the indices laws
2^n still doesn't become 2n
I treated the 2 to the power 2 to the power n + 1
Yeah ur probablt right imma statt from the beginning
And make it a little more clear
Bro
Help
I feel like thats right but
I kind of have no clue where to go from here
As combining them back just brings me back to square 1
I got this
I added the parentheses specifically to remove the ambiguity, so that you wouldn't read it as (2^2)^n = 4^n
you also started from all but the start
Wait wdym all but the start
meaning your starting point was wrong
yes
Okkk
Just a quick question
I am supposed to apply indices laws right
And split up n and 1
yes that's how you get started
Ok on it
just don't turn the powers into products and you should be good
turn the 2^n+1 into 2*2^n
Into product powers
just not into 2*(n+1) like you did
Ohhhh
Yeah
Thats what i meant
I thought i wasnt supposed to do that
Quick question
2^n x 2 is NOT 4^n right
no, because 4^n = (2^2)^n != 2^(n+1)
Yehp
Guessed as mucy
Im stuck
None of the indices laws im looking at are going to help me simplify this
you already wrote the law that you should be using here on the previous page
you reached the exit and kept going past it !
you're supposed to recognize u_n at some point
Its just un squared
Wdymmm
Ok so
I only did 2 steps of working
One where i turned it into one power again with 2^(2^n)^2
Oh wait
Is that it
that line (actually the equality on the left of that one) is precisely (u_n)²
Oh my god
Wtf 💀
The whole 2^2^n ia Un
OHHHH
OHHHH
Im so dense
Im so sorry 🗿
2^2 is 4
Which was u1
💀
So obviously the whole thing to the n is Un
Omggg
$u_{n+1} = 2^{(2^{n+1})} = 2^{2*2^n} = (2^{(2^n)})² = u_n ^2$
themateo713
yes
I suppose you're barely ever done proofs ?
the idea with proofs is also to never forget where you're going
which is also why a lot of questions are actually closed: as "show that ..." rather than "give a similar formula for ..." or "what about ...." or some other open question
2^1024 is 179.769 uncentillion
Ahh
so I kindly made this one an open question
Ok thanks tho ill close this so others can make use of it
don't need
Oh
there are already open channels
Thats cool
only close to say you're done and are going to leave, otherwise it's better to stay on the same channel
resits ?
For pre uni exams
Doing them again basically
So i pass this time and get in
With the grades I need
And I have one month left till the finals start
what's the curriculum ?
isn't that the thing with a ton of stats ?
for a general curriculum imo
yeah there is an entire section
for stats and mechanics
and this is only the year 2 stuff for pure maths
stats and mechanics have their own year 1 and year 2 b ooks
as u can see I was on 3.7
how many hours a week is that ?
and i'm currently speedrunning through the book so even this break was a fair bit of time
im studying on my own now
the goal is 10 hours a day
so yeah ive spent a fair bit of time off topic today but its ok I learnt a thing or 2 about proofs
good luck. But I meant at school how much do they study that curriculum in class ?
and got a key understanding thing done
ohhhh
uhhh
2 lessons a day avg
1 lesson being 50 mins
sooo
8 and a half hours
of in lesson learning per week
i think
once again, basically every country putting the french math education to shame
4h/week in 2nd year (it becomes optional, but they're going to reform the reform to fix that because the level is abyssmal), 6h/week in 3rd/last year, 9h/week if you took the optional "expert" math elective (I think that's the name ?)
yeah
its 9h per week here too for sixth form students
i know u have that weird ass ibacc system
we dont have that
after u finish gcses at 16
from 16 to 18 u have ur options
the bac is just the diploma and you get tested on pretty much all subjects
and once u select those its 9hr per week per subject
u usually pick 3 options btw
4 if you're mental and don't like having rest time
including french, english, philosophy, history/geography, sport, and your 2.5 specialities, as well as an oral exam on those
ah
well my time is running out as well now, i should really get back to covering content, thanks for your help today
so during the last year the average scientific student has 6h math, 6h physics, 2h of "science" (really irrelevant), and that's it
ill get back to work though now so I hope you don't mind me closing channel.
ahhhh
makes sense but
seems too little
it is
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i have this limit and should calculate it (if it exists) but isnt this just F -> (0,0) ?
id just like an explanation if im right because im not sure i understand why, just remember ive seen a similar question
sorry i saw this question isnt allowed in this channel as its more advanced than pre uni math, ill move channel 😅
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so we're trying to find the rank
and after some row & column operations
how is it immediate?
that the first 3 rows/columns are linearly independent just from the column echelon form
and in general, if we get a echelon form for row/column, when can we say that the row/column vectors are linearly independent
and when they aren't
because every matrix has an echelon form but the row/column vectors aren't necessarily linearly independent
but is this general argument true?
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The amount of leading coefficients is the amount of linearly independent vectors
at least
in the case above, because there are only 3 columns, and 3 leading coefficients, then the rank is 3
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so if a row/column is just 0 (in echelon form), that wont be counted in the number of linearly independent vectors?
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ok, so do you know how angle 2 and angle 3 relate to each other?
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Can someone walk me through this?
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Anyone know how to do part B?
do you know any numeric integration techniques?
Trapezium rule
Never properly learnt it tho
@tacit arch do ylu@know how to do a I wanna make sure my answer is correct
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hello
i need help w this
answer is 3
got it to integral form
How do i find the antideriv of this??
power rule
can you show me? im trying to do that but keep getting the wrong answer
here you have an integration over x ig so you need to add dx at the end for the lineelement
what's integral of x^2
you can then simply apply the fundamental of diffenrtial and integral calculus
why
it's a constant
thats kinda where im lost
it's not the variable
what's integral of 1
x
so what's integral of c^2
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how would I find the equation a 3d function with 2 independent variables?
I mean dependent
how would I find the equation a 3d function with 2 dependent variables?
specifically I want to graph sin(a+bi) where b is a constant
I'm trying to find an equation so I can see the graph in 3d
So b is not a dependent variable. Only a is?
the 2 dependent variables would be the real and imaginary part, I guess
b is a constant
a would be the independent variable I think
Or, haha whoops I mixed that up
yeah I could've made that more clear
sin(a + bi)
sin(a)cos(bi) + cos(a)sin(bi)
sin(a)cosh(b) + cos(a)sinh(b)i
yeah that's exactly what I have
,w graph sin(x + 2i)
nice
And wolfram will give them to you
is it possible to have that in 3d?
like sin(z+2i) and the real part on the x-axis, imaginary part on the y-axis
so I can put it in here:
The problem is that you're only providing the information necessary to put a point on the x-y plane and y-z plane
Ye
how do I get this to work?
oh wait I probably need to set b
I set b=2 but it still doesn't work for some reason
I got it to work on desmos I think
am I supposed to be getting this?
I have no idea what you're supposed to be getting, what we're doing is random af
lol
Looks cool though
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I need help with basic trigonometry

How do I do this
I'm so confused
It's super basic but I don't know how to solve it at all
Supplementary angles and triangle angle sum
That's what this is called?
supplementary angles on a line yeah
Dumb question but there a calculator that can do this
I'm not sure
they add up to 180, do you remember that?
I do
I know that
so look at 3, we need the sum of those angles to add up to 180
so can you make an equation involving x?
180 is the most it can go and the two angles always make 180 in total
No honestly everything I know about math I forget
I need to solve the equation but how exactly
we need to make an equation first
Where do we start
we need angle_1 + angle_2 = 180 right?
Oh so add the two
yep!
I can add them but the answer is going to be 180 which I already know though
but we need to find x
so we make the equation by adding them and setting them equal to 180, and then we solve for x
How do I write the equation
take this and replace with the angles given
go on
,w solve x-2+5x+2=180
yes
I really appreciate you
Do I do the same thing with the rest?
The other ones are a bit different though
you're welcome!
the other ones are similar but you have to use the fact that angles in a triangle add to 180 aswell
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can someone let me know how he got b in terms of a?
quadratic formula
can you demonstrate how?
i don't see how we would manage b terms to = 0
get it equal to 0, you get $b^2 + b -(a^2+1)=0$. Letting $b$ be your variable, you have coefficients $A=1$, $B=1$, and $C=-(a^2+1)$
Zybikron
plug those into $b = \frac{-B\pm \sqrt{B^2-4AC}}{2A}$
Zybikron
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can someone show me step by step on how to find the roots for y=10x - x^2
iCaird
yes
what does it look like if we do that?
x(10-x)=0 ?
i really dont know what to do after this part
do you understand that is two numbers times to zero, then either one or the other is zero?
i.e. $ if ab=0$, then $a =0$ or $b=0$
iCaird
i think
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Hello I kinda need help with 2 math problems
I have been looking at the for an hour without making any progress
I tried many different methods but all failed misserably
translate to english pls
There's nothing important being said
It just sais where you need to solve it
In this case x<1
They are 2 different exercises
just translate so I can help
also show what you have already done
I've tried to ln both sides to get rid of the second one
Tried to make the 1st part of the first equation to one fraction
And then remove the ln again
Then I tried separating the ln in both problems
Ok I think I solved the second one
The first one still remains a mystery
The second one is x>-2
,rotate
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If you're doing f(g(x)), that means you have to plug in g(x) for each of the x values in f(x)
i got the answer but its grouped differently then the answer choices and thats why im confused
should i send answer choices
show both your work and the available options
wdym by grouped differently
@tranquil pebble how is your answer any different from theirs
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Look at the very first equation
G(f(x)) is right
But not f(g(x))
how is your answer any different from theirs
on your page you seem to have written
f(g(x)) = 16x^2 - 12x - 1
which is exactly the same as what's in the option
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dont know how it works
why (a-2)/5 and not just -2/5?
5x^3+48x^2+100x+2-a=5(x-r_1)(x-r_2)(x-r_3)
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If I have a curve y = 4/(x^2), and I want to find the x value of a line that "bisects" the area under a restricted part of that curve (1 <= x <= 4), how would I do that
"Bisect" meaning, if the bisecting line is x = a, the area under the curve to the left of a would be the same as the area under the curve to the right of a
I think I know how to do this in an abstract sense, I just don't know how to actually compute it
Just solve difference of -4/x at value 4,a =difference of -4/x at a,1
Wdym difference of at value
I mean that
what I have in mind is something to do with sequences
Solve (-4/4)-(-4/a)=(-4/a)-(-4/1)
Yeah
@proud locust you know calculus right
Just solve (integral from 1 to a of f(x)) = (integral from a to 4 of f(x)) for a
A sequence? Wdym
I was way overthinking it
like, a sigma sum
Oh
Would it be possible to make a sigma notation sum with an unknown upper bound that would be the bisecting line's value
Well what would you be summing exactly?
Haha yeah that’s literally exactly what integration is
that, when added together, would equal the area under the curve
oh right
yesyesyesno
I really don't like sums and limits
Back in the previous calc course when we were learning about more advanced limits I hated it so much and was like "okay I'm gonna slide through this and hope I'll never have to use these again"
well, shit
anyway thank you for pointing me in the right direction
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{(-6)(-6)} would the - sign carry over into the next step if both values are exactly the same like here
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There's no question to answer. What is "next step"?
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i need help with these 4 problems
no idk how
sure
i don’t know how to create equations
How much would the blend cost?
17.70?
Thats per pound
first what are you looking for?
how many pounds?
yes
first let the x be the weight of the kaapo bean
then total cost = cost of kaapo bean + cost of maui beans
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is it alright if we vc?
need help with these two
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I have 10 but not 9
set x as the amount of adults, 3x as the amount of girls
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is this simple interest?
i’m not sure
simple interest I = prt.
First, you want to say that x dollar = mutual fund. this means 40000-x dollars to other account.
@mossy burrow is it sounds good
yes
do you know how to set things up?
no thats what i struggle with
I will set it up like this:
Let interest 1 = .021 and interest 2 = .065
P1=x and P2=40000-x
interest earned from account 1 + interest earned from account 2 = 40000(.054) interest earned.
(40000-x)(.021)+.065x=400009(.054) Solve for x, it is 30000.
you're welcome.
did u accidently put a 9?
Yes, sorry. typo
Just want to mention one thing. I = PRT, the T=time cancels out because it is same length of time so you don't even have to consider T
ohhh interesting
another typo, Let
interest 2 = .021
P2=40000-x
and interest 1 = .065
P1=x
I had interest numbered wrong to match the formula.
(40000-x)(.021) +.065x=40000(.054)
If you want to set it up this way, still it comes up with the same number. 10000 to one account and 30000 to another account.
(40000-x)(.065) +.021x=40000(.054)
oh ok that makes sense too
i do have another problem
its easy
i just dont know how to set it up
nvm i got it
ok. just multiply to numbers. 32321(.157) Mark is nice.
good
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Just wondering am I on the right track?
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how do i solve for this?
as in how do you get
x = 0.5275*L
apply the quadratic formula where a=3, b=6L, c=-4*sqrL
alternatively, this can also be a quadratic equation in terms of L such that a=-4, b=6x, c=3sqrx
by sqrL i mean L squared
ohhhh
i tried doing that but i think i just didnt want to solve it in the end thinking there couldve been an easier method
ill try it again tho tyty
np
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What is a derivative in maths
Depends on the subject
the derivative of a function is the rate of change of that function
it defines how fast or how slow the fucntion will move
There are derivative of a chain complex, cocomplex, derivative in a operator algebra. You need to specify which subject you are talking about
Partial derivative, given a f:R^n—>R, mapping (x_1,…,x_n) to f(x_1,…,x_n), the first order partial derivative of f in terms of x_j is the derivative of f of x_j while viewing all other variables as constants
So $\frac{\partial f}{\partial x_{j}}(x_{1},…,x_{n})=\lim_{y \to x_{j}}\frac{f(x_{1},…,y,…,x_{n})-f(x_{1},…,x_{j},…,x_{n})}{y-x_{j}}$
Cogwheels of the mind
Is this a formula
No
This is the definition of first order partial derivative of f in terms of x_j at point (x_1,…,x_n)
Didn't get
Describes how fast a function is changing at a particular time
if we have a car and the distance covered by that care by time t is t^2 the velocity of that car at t is the derivative of t^2
Didn't get
How will you express In formula
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Guys I have a question
Is that ALL linear equations except the denominator has unknown is ALWAYS a straight line?
also no turning points
I'm a grade 8 student, just learnt simultaneous equations
Any equation that looks like y =ax + c represents a straight line
YES
Is that what you're asking?
yes thanks
I watched videos like y=mx+c and y=mx+b
what about more unknowns
like y=ax+bz+c
multivariable is not grade 8
for example, is y=3x+5z+18 a straight line
your graph would be 3dimensional
It's not multivariable calc
but they already taught us...
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This would give you a plane in 3D
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Ur asked to find the formula of the arra
Any measurements from the diagram?
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Hey
The functions are known to intersect at the point x=1 and both have the same slope at x = -0.25. Find A and B
So I found A which is 1, how do I find B?
picture is cut off
Yes, because it's in a different language. I wrote all the details here
I'll tell you what I did so far
I found g'(x) and f'(x) which are-
g'(x) = 2x
f'(x) = 6x+A
I equaled between them and replaced X with -0.25 and I found that A = 1
After I did that, what do I have to do in order to find B?
Use the fact that they intersect at x=1
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- In a class of 24 students, half of the boys have a bicycle. How many girls in the class have a bicycle?
(1) There are as many girls as boys in the class. 14 students do not have a bicycle.
(2) Of those who do not have a bicycle, the girls are 2 more than the boys. Of the girls, those who do not have a bicycle 4 are more than those who have a bicycle.
Can we solve the task with information (1) and (2) separately, or together?
Can't you solve it already with just (1)?
That's all he even asked ig
If he can do it with only 1
Or if both are needed
I don't think we can solve it only with 1 tho
It's doable with (1) right? But I'm interested in knowing what methods y'all would use to solve it as fast as possible
24 students, 12 boys & 12 girls. half of the boys have a bicycle => 6 bicycles. 14 have no bicycle, so 10 have bicycles
In a multiple-choice question
means 4 girls need to have bicycles
Do we need variables?
Oh right we can do it with (1)
you can solve it with variables too
What variables would you use for (1)?
x = 24 students?
or x for boys (with a bicycle and without)?
Eh I think it will be 14-6=8
so 8 + 6 = 14 bicycles. but the problem states that 14 do not have bicycles
yes so 10 students have a bicycle
in (1)
there is also as many girls as boys in the class in (1)
so right away, 12 girls + 12 boys
and 6 boys own a bicycle, 6 does not
Oh man I read the opposite srry
10 students have a bicycle, so 10 students with a bicycle - 6 boys with a bicycle = 4 girls with a bicycle
that's from (1)
what about (2)?
2 is more interesting
someone posted this (in swedish), but i'm not sure if it's for (2) or (1)
seems like it's for (2), and it's solvable this way
so, x = boys with a bicycle, and x = boys without a bicycle, do we add them together?
So they partition it into all 4 possible groups first
- boys with bicycle, boys without bicycle
- girls with bicycle, girls without bicycle
Adding them all together gives us 4x = 24 or x = 6.
Then because you're written everything in terms of only 1 variable, you just select the right combination of row+column to pick out the info you want
And that one variable being amount of students with a bicycle? Or is it amount of boys with a bicycle = amount of boys without a bicycle?
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hi together, i currently work on "lectures on the poisson process" (written by Last and Penrose). I struggle with an exercise in the book, more explicit exercise 2.3 which i screenshoted down here. My intention was to show that this infinite sum of point processes is measurable. but i dont know how to progress on this. the hint doesnt help me at all tbh.
so i started to do this by checking if {m(B)=k}={\sum_n=1}^\infty m_n(B)=k} is measurable. but i really dont know how to get to a solution.
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What does the ko stand for here? It’s a lil formula for the double integral over an area, for a continuous f: A -> R
is there more context here? could be anything as is
Maybe a misprint
Yeah, just checked with the professor, it’s a misprint
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anyone's able to explain solving this kind of stuff?
i understand that using a unit circle is needed, also i do understand how to use this unit circle, but i don't really get solving this kind of equations in general
If we let $y = 4x + \frac{\pi}{3}$, we are looking for solutions to $sin(y) = -\frac{\sqrt{3}}{2}$
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does that makes sense?
yes it is
and so you know how to use the unit circle to solve the new equation for y?
do you know the trig table?
ah, so
sin(y)=4p/3 & sin(y) = 5p/3
and i need to solve a pair of equations which are
4x+p/3=5p/3 + 2pk & 4x+p3=4p/3 + 2pk?
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i was having a hard time with the first two
what was the problem
can someone pls help me with this? id really appreaciate it
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I have no idea completely, can somebody give me some idea.
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notice that (x+1/x)(y+1/y) = a
hmm why
why what?
(x+1/x)(y+1/y) = a
:(
yea :(
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@median mauve if you choose a=100 and b=7, then you get $x^2+y^2=\frac{10049}{200}$. This should help you to find a nice factoring
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I am little bit confuse
as it is pretty much impossible to get the exact values of x and y, one needs a different approach. The idea is that one can express x^2+y^2 as a term in a and b.
The question is, which expression in a and b is the right one. For that one needs some guessing. One can look at an example, eg a=100 and b=7. For this case (with help of wolfram alpha), one can caluculate the solutions of the equations and then calculate $x^2+y^2$ for these solutions. You get $x^2+y^2=\frac{10049}{200}$. So if we plug in a=100 and b=7 in this term, we get $\frac{10049}{200}$. Now one has to guess a nice-looking term that yields $\frac{10049}{200}$ if you plug in a=100 and b=7.
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How this proof the sum $x^2 + y^2$ is real for any real a and b.
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the idea is if eg $x^2+y^2=(x^2+x^2+xy+\frac{1}{xy})/(x^4+y^4+x^2y^2-\frac{1}{x^2y^2}-2)$, then one can use the two equations we have, which then yields $x^2+y^2=\frac{a}{b^2}$ and is therefore a real number
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the idea is to do something like this
Notice that the first equality sign is incorrect
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