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shell widget
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well what dont u understand

tame moss
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idk its hard to say

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anyway thanks for your help

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static basin
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b = 3a + 15

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static basin
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To make a the subject is the answer:

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b - 15/3 = a

alpine sable
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oh alright

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SO

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uh idkk sorry

open folio
static basin
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Np

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Yes

open folio
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You want to make a the only variable, so you need to get rid of the -15

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How would you do that?

static basin
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+15

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On both sides

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@open folio the equations is

open folio
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b + 15 = 3a

static basin
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b = 3a + 15

alpine sable
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to remove the +15

static basin
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Yes got that

alpine sable
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b - 15 = 3a

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right?

static basin
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Yes

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So -b on both sides?

alpine sable
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no

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because u are trying to isolate the variable a

static basin
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Ahhhh decide the 3!

alpine sable
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👍

static basin
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Divide

alpine sable
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yes

static basin
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So it’s b - 15 = a

alpine sable
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but that will be b/3 - 15/3= a soo idkk

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@open folio

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help

open folio
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b/3 - 15/3 is fine

alpine sable
open folio
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Wdym/

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?

alpine sable
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its soupossed to be b - 15/3 = a

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not b/3 - 15/3 = a

open folio
open folio
alpine sable
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oh

open folio
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$\frac{b-15}{3} = a$

ocean sealBOT
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Breeziboi

open folio
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This is what you have, correct?

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@static basin

alpine sable
static basin
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So I got it right the first time?

open folio
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You can break this into something else that can be further simplified

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$\frac{b]{3} minus \frac{15}{3} = a$

ocean sealBOT
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Breeziboi

$\frac{b]{3} minus \frac{15}{3} = a$
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open folio
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$\frac{b}{3} - \frac{15}{3} = a$

ocean sealBOT
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Breeziboi

open folio
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There we go

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@static basin

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Not sure what I did wrong...

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But here we go

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You can break this apart

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Do you see how to simplify this more?

static basin
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No

open folio
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What is 15/3?

static basin
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5

open folio
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So that is a yes :)

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$\frac{b}{3} - 5 = a$

ocean sealBOT
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Breeziboi

open folio
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@static basin Is there any further simplifying that can be done?

static basin
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Yeah but why are you dividing b by 3

open folio
static basin
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Yes

open folio
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So we got

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$\frac{b - 15}{3} = a$

ocean sealBOT
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Breeziboi

static basin
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Yes

open folio
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You follow?

static basin
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Yes

open folio
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You can break this into two different parts

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b/3 and 15/3

static basin
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Yes but where dividing b -15/3

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Not

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B/3 - 15 /3

open folio
static basin
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Yes

open folio
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You have to watch out for things like that

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We are dividing the ENTIRE left side

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Not just one part

open folio
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Since they are common denominators we can add them

static basin
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So sorry x+y

open folio
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Yes

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$\frac{x + y}{5}$

ocean sealBOT
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Breeziboi

open folio
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So like we just had it before, you can split that up

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I hope that makes sense

static basin
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Ahhhhh

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Yes I understand

alpine sable
static basin
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Thank you

open folio
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By the way, algebra is a pretty important and reoccouring skill, so make sure you practice :)

static basin
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Wait, I thought you could only subtract powers with the same base number?

open folio
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Thats exponents

static basin
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Haha yes that’s right

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Tysm

open folio
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@static basin

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Are you going to close?

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Or do you have more questions

static basin
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Unless you can do vectors? 😂😂

open folio
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If it's linear algebra vectors? Likely not

static basin
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On?

open folio
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But physics vectors? Perhaps

static basin
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Yes

open folio
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Show me

static basin
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Is tomorrow ok?

open folio
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I am in US EST time

static basin
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Ok what time is it there now?

open folio
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ish

static basin
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Ok, how about tomorrow at the same time?

open folio
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tight yacht
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I understand the correct solution, but can anyone point out why this is wrong?

Integral(1/2x)

= integral(1/2 x 2/2x)

= 1/2 integral(2/2x)

using integral(f’(x)/f(x)) = ln(f(x)):

= 1/2 ln2x + C

Obviously this is wrong as:
integral(1/2x) = 1/2 integral(1/x)

= 1/2 lnx + C

What am i doing wrong in the first method? Lnx is obviously not equal to ln2x lol

tight yacht
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i know all of A2 integration (edexcel) but this really simple problem has confused me lmao

last tendon
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they are the same up to a constant of integration

tight yacht
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omg

last tendon
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Also don't use x for multiplication and the integration element. That is annoying on the best of days

tight yacht
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discord formats *s

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thats why i use x lol

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Whoops at missing the log law

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its kinda late and i just started overthinking

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you can use latex or put a \ in front of * to get around italicizing

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slender glacier
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hi i need help with this series of questions involving complex number. everything kind of connects with each other so it might be easier to just start from the beginning :(( sorry its so long

supple tundra
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ok

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what's the modulus and arg of z

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and I think I get a) ii) as well

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merry coral
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Why did the US want to kill Castro? I can't find a straight foward answer anywhere.

merry coral
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oh yeah this gotta be math

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find the derative

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😳

merry coral
naive valley
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batista

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i guess we could calculate the angle of missile launches to travel from cuba to florida or something?

merry coral
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these are all just variables

naive valley
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optimize all the things

grim delta
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we should take this to the physics discord

naive valley
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yeah true, but physics is just applied math with some additional axioms

simple turtle
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Find the probability of USA getting hit first

merry coral
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find the optimal path to -113.78N, 45.68E

simple turtle
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We should close for math?

naive valley
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it's a trick question, latitude only goes to +/- 90 degrees

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and north is positive not negative lol

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damn australians

merry coral
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yeah I'm upsidedown

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it's hard to read ur messages

simple turtle
naive valley
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i have no quarrel with them except for their upside down view of the world 😆

simple turtle
merry coral
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yeah I got to where I harness when I walk around

merry coral
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cause if I don't I'll fall off the world

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must be nice not living in australia

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golden lava
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I can't seem to figure out how to slove these

tardy rapids
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tardy rapids
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They have given N•M by accident

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In the website

ancient sand
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hello

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alpine sable
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anyone know how to solve this

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zenith compass
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I want to ask part b of this question

zenith compass
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Those are my very messy workings

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Seems I am on the wrong track

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Can anyone give me some ideas how to do it in a better way?

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stone scroll
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My answer is 10 but I'm not really sure if I'm correct

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I used the combination formula to multiply the given in each menu then I added them together

ripe rain
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Sus looks like a test

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stone scroll
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Yep a diagnostic test

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Ah nvm I got it

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zinc parrot
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can some explain to me why is there two sin wave instead of 1

zinc parrot
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i got all the values

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but i dont get why it goes to the negative

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i dont get what u mean by odd

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is it just a rule or smth

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ok

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yes

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woah

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thats cool

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i know

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so one sine wave would be fine

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right

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alright

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thanks

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yeah okay

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oh ok

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cant u just use signs

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like

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-1/2

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to show that it goes right

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left

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i mean

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oh

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ok

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oh

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ok

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got u

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okayy

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let me fix the whole thing now

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thanks

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idle cedar
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I know (a) but not (b)

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vague coral
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formula of the area of a triangle

idle cedar
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This chapter is about pyhtagoras' theorem

slender gull
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I think they can't use the heron's formula here.

vague coral
slender gull
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Yes, find the height, base you already have.

idle cedar
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what?

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I know the base

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not the height tho

vague coral
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the height of the triangle CDE is the perpendicular line to DE that passes through C

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and to find his length, Pythagore is your best friend

idle cedar
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well i know the length

vague coral
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of the height ?

idle cedar
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wait

vague coral
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Then do it if you have it

idle cedar
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no

vague coral
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...

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Read what I said

idle cedar
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ok so i assume F is a point on ED which FC is the height

vague coral
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yes

idle cedar
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but how to find FC

slender gull
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You will have to also use FE and FD.

idle cedar
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but what is FE and FD

slender gull
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That also you have to figure out lol.

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FE + FD = ED

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Use this fact.

idle cedar
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FE^2+FC^2=EC^2

slender gull
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Right.

vague coral
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yes but do you know the length of EC ?

idle cedar
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FD^2+FC^2=DC^2

idle cedar
slender gull
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Bruh.

vague coral
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it was never said that CDE is a an isoscele triangle

vague coral
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and it will be hard to find FE and FD

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EC too

idle cedar
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can u help me

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pls

vague coral
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I don't know, your exercises didnt give much information

idle cedar
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@vague coral or i can take CD as the base

vague coral
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the height is not even in the triangle if you do that

idle cedar
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well we can assume G is a point on BC and EG is perpendicular to GD

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and EG will be the height

vague coral
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and ? its worse than the first one

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I mean, the height will be hard to find too

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And I don't want to make assumptions we are doing maths

idle cedar
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or we can try to get the area of triangle EBD and subtract triangle ECB

vague coral
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still hard because the height will be painful to find

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Maybe use Heron formula I dont know at this point

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But still hard because we dont know EC

idle cedar
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hm

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how to use heron formula

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i mean

vague coral
idle cedar
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but we dont have EC

vague coral
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thats what I said

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we need extra information for this problem, I would consider the exercise incomplete i guess

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I can easily make an assumption that EC = CD, but we are doing maths here

idle cedar
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actually we can try to prove it

vague coral
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sure lets try it

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well i cant see how

idle cedar
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bruh

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cunning trout
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I’m not sure what to do in this question

gray ingot
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can you find the radius?

gray isle
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as usual, start with a diagram

cunning trout
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But I’m confused with the diagram, it’s confusing to me

gray ingot
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do you know what a sector is?

cunning trout
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A part of the circle

gray isle
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what attempts have you made to find the radius?

gray ingot
cunning trout
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So pi x r^2 =5 pi

gray ingot
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yes

cunning trout
gray ingot
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alright

gray ingot
cunning trout
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Radius

gray ingot
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no I mean its value

cunning trout
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Ok two sec

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2.2

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Cm

gray isle
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no

cunning trout
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?

gray ingot
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its not 2.2

gray isle
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the radius isn't 2.2cm

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how are you getting 2.2

cunning trout
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I did it on the calculator

gray isle
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what are you putting into your calc

cunning trout
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5 x pi first

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Answ divided by pi

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Square root of answ

gray isle
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perhaps it would be better to first isolate r in your equation

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and avoid using a calculator until it's needed

cunning trout
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r=square root of 5

gray ingot
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ok, now do you know how the angle subtended by an arc is related to the radius and arc length?

cunning trout
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No

gray ingot
cunning trout
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L=r x theta

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Yh

gray ingot
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keep in mind that theta is in radians

cunning trout
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Yep

gray ingot
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you'll need to convert to degrees for your answer

cunning trout
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But we know r, what about L?

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Is L 3?

gray ingot
cunning trout
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So 3cm

tight locust
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unsolvable

cunning trout
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Wait what?

tight locust
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i mean if we're being really technical about it we can't solve this problem because there's no units for the area given

cunning trout
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So is the length 3cm right?

tight locust
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yeah

cunning trout
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Yh and I see the units for the area is not given, right

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Ok thks

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sullen bramble
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Are we able to use the remainder theorem here? Or do we use long division?

slender gull
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Remainder theorem.

sullen bramble
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So do we substitute 1/2 in the equation?

slender gull
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Sure.

sullen bramble
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Ok thanks. This question is asking me to find the remainder. So do I substitute -sqrt(2) in the eqution then?

slender gull
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First of all.

ocean sealBOT
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What the hell am I doing here?

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What the hell am I doing here?

slender gull
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You can just use (-2) for x^2 everywhere.

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However, long division works here just fine so do what seems easier.

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ok thanks

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my bad

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vivid citrus
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what have you tried so far?

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solar adder
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im unsure on how to do it

alpine sable
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do you know the properties of exponents?

vivid citrus
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you can rewrite $\sqrt{a}$ as $a^{\frac{1}{2}}$

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Itz_Aladdin

vivid citrus
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and after that you can use the exponent properties as aimane said

solar adder
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i still dont get it

gray isle
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do you know your exponent laws?

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specifically the ones related to multiplication and division?

solar adder
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that's pretty much all you need for this question

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can you try applying them here?

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if it helps you can write everything as a multiplication too

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a^x times a^y = a^ (x+y) ?

vivid citrus
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you dont need to use a system

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you just need to solve the left side

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start by writing the bottom in exponent form and simplifying the top

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can you do that?

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Is there a way I can prove that m∠3 < m∠4?

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@neon bramble Find the angle sum of triangle UST using both angles 3 and 4.

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im not sure how to do that

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What is the interior angle sum of a triangle?

neon bramble
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180

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What is the angle next to angle 4?

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Angle UTS

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In terms of angle 4.

neon bramble
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uh

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idk

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im confused

hollow shale
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That angle, to the left of 4.

neon bramble
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Idk how do i find out what angle that is

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or do you mean like acute angle?

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Do you know what angles on a straight line must sum to?

neon bramble
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180 i think

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Yeah!

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So 4 + ∠UTS = 180, right?

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Yes

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So ∠UTS = 180 - ∠4

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Now we try finding the sum of the angles in the triangle UST.

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Which we know is 180.

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What 3 angles sum to 180 in that triangle?

neon bramble
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∠3, ∠UST, and ∠UTS?

hollow shale
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(All this to prove your inequality by the way)

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So can you form an equation for the sum of those angles?

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And then substitute in our value for UTS?

neon bramble
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∠3 + ∠UST + ∠UTS = 180?
is that right?

hollow shale
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Yes.

neon bramble
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∠3 + ∠UST + (180 - ∠4) = 180?

hollow shale
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Yes, now simplify this and see if you notice something.

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Put the angles ∠3 and ∠4 on opposite sides of that equality.

neon bramble
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∠UST + 180 = 180 - ∠3 + ∠4?

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Did i do that right?

hollow shale
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You can simplify this more. Notice the two 180's on either side. Also we would ideally have the angles have a positive sign.

neon bramble
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Oh

hollow shale
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In the end, you should get:

∠3 + ∠UST = ∠4

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See how this basically proves your inequality?

neon bramble
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Ohhh

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Wait so
∠3 + ∠UST + 180 - 180 = ∠4
∠3 + ∠UST = ∠4

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Is that the right way to do it

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I'm trying to check if $\sqrt{1-x^2}$ is injective. If $f(a) = f(b)$, then $a = b$.
At one point I reach that $a^2 = b^2$, so I square root both sides, and here's where I have problems.
Square root of $a$ and $b$ can be $\pm a$ and $\pm b$
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rotund pumice
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So a = b but also a = -b?

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I know it's not injective but I have problems understanding how the equality works on that minus-plus scenario

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Hmmm

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0MegaP0int

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If I restricted the domain to [-1, 0), the fact that a^2 = b^2 does not imply a = b still holds? And therefore, even if the domain is restricted, it is not injective?

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alpine sable
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If we restrict the domain, then yes, it is injective (bijective too I think). And it would be its own inverse.
solve for x in y=sqrt(1-x^2)

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We can prove that it's bijective by proving that it's continuous AND strictly decreasing/increasing on a given domain

alpine sable
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Long story short it depends on the domain

sudden hinge
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oh yes on some restricted intervals it is

alpine sable
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Yeah that's what I was thinking about

rotund pumice
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So if we know that the domain is [-1, 0), we can conclude that when we reach the fact that a² = b², it has to mean that -a = -b ?

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and from there we can indeed conclude that a = b

alpine sable
rotund pumice
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I understand

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I have infinite power now

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Thank you very much to you both

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Haha

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You're welcome

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They need to finish the work in 96 hours
They work for 8 hours everyday
Therefore they need to work overtime of
96-8(4) = 64 hours
Overtime rate = 1.5 * 7.5
Therefore, total payment for 4 men should be
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Assist me please someone

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U will get ++skills

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Btw I need help in 9ii

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Not 9i

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@alpine sable 4 days = 96 hours
every man works 8 normal hours per day => 8 * 4 = 32 normal hours per man
so in total the men work 32 * 4 = 128 normal hours in these 4 days.
the project however requires 224 hrs, so 224 - 128 = 96 hrs are still left which will be overtime work.

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But in 9ii it says if the project is to be completed in 4 days so isn't 4 days the maximum limit

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@sudden hinge

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it isnt the maximum limit, but the question is asking if it was completed in 4 days how much did they work

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O

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Ok ig thanks for helping

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im confused on how 2 do this problem (;^ o ^)

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So you have 7 distinct letters

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first look at how you might place the L

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basically we have to fill in these places _ _ _ _ _ _ _
where could L possibly be here?

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all work except for the first one right? because if the L is at the first place, the I cannot be left to it

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OHHH :O

rotund plank
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Can’t we just ||take the number of combinations and divide by 2? Since for every I…L we have an L…I?||

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Permutations* but you get the idea

alpine sable
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how many combinations are there ?-?

rotund plank
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Are you familiar with this sort of notion

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If we have 5 distinct numbers we can rearrange them in 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1 ways

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We can place the first object in 5 ways, leaving 4 remaining places where we can place the next, and so on

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It follows from the exact same logic

alpine sable
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kind of T-T im still a bit new 2 it bcos we jus learned it yesterday 🏃‍♀️

rotund plank
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What state of your education are you in?

alpine sable
rotund plank
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Alright so like 15/16 sort of thing?

alpine sable
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yes ^o^

rotund plank
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Alright

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Similarly to what the person said above

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Consider this _ _ _ _ _ _ _

alpine sable
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mhm

rotund plank
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Um

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That’s not quite what I meant to send hold on

alpine sable
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take ur time sir :'D

rotund plank
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_ _ _ _ _ _ _

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Right

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So consider the first place there

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And also consider each of the letters we can use

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So H, O, L, I, D, A, Y

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How many different letters could we place in the first slot?

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alpine sable
rotund plank
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Let’s imagine we didn’t have any restrictions like that

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So we can use any letter we want

alpine sable
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then 7 ? :o

rotund plank
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Yeah

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So now, after we’ve placed one there, how many could we then place in the next slot?

alpine sable
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another one ? T-T

rotund plank
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How many different letters

alpine sable
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OH

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6 ???? ; o ;

rotund plank
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Yep

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And then for the next place?

alpine sable
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5 ! :o

rotund plank
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Yeah and then we can just continue in the same way

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Basically, since we can place 7 different letters in the first slot, and once one is place we have 6 in the next, and so on

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We can count the numbers of total permutations

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We multiply the amount of possibilities in each place

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And so we have $7! = 7\cdot 6\cdot 5\cdot 4\cdot 3\cdot 2\cdot 1 = 5040$ TOTAL combinations

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dk.dkn

rotund plank
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Does that make sense so far?

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ohhhh i see :o

alpine sable
rotund plank
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Alright

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That’s a very important concept to know for these sorts of questions

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Now for this question specifically, we can rearrange the word however we want, the only restriction is that I must come before L

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Since the letters come one after the other, for any arrangement with L and I in one place, we could just swap them around. In exactly one of those our condition is satisfied

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So how many permutations do you think we’ll have for that question?

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hold o n sir my brain is dying 〒▽〒

rotund plank
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Let’s just forget about the letters other than L and I for now

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So consider _ _ L _ _ I _ for example

alpine sable
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mhm :'D

rotund plank
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Now obviously _ _ I _ _ L _ is also valid right? We can just swap the letters around

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Just imagine random letters placed in the other slots

alpine sable
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ohhh :o

rotund plank
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For example A D L H O I Y

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We can also have A D I H O L Y

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So you can see that for any permutation, there is a complement to that with the letters switched over

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And for just one of those is I to the left of L

alpine sable
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ohh i see :O but how do i calculate on how many ways that they can be rearranged though bc wouldnt that take a while if i manually do it ? ToT

rotund plank
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Not if you think about the trick to it

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So we have 5040 total ways of arranging that group right?

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From before

alpine sable
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yes, i remember ! :D

rotund plank
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7 x 6 x 5 x 4 x 3 x 2 x 1

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Alright

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In each of those, we do have the letters I and L, right?

alpine sable
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yes :O

rotund plank
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And in each case, either I comes before L, or L comes before I

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Because they can’t be in the same place

alpine sable
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mhm

rotund plank
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Can you work out in how many of our 5040 original arrangements I is before L?

alpine sable
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UM

rotund plank
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Okay let’s think about this

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If we have some arrangement with I before L

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We can swap the letters and get another valid arrangement

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And the other letters remain the same

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So we could group our arrangements into pairs right? Pairs of arrangements where they are the same word, but with I and L swapped over?

alpine sable
rotund plank
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5040 is the amount of every single arrangement

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But we could split those arrangements up into pairs, so in half of the arrangements I comes before L, and vice versa

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Can you work out how many now?

rotund plank
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Yes

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That’s literally it

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We can just split the group in 2

alpine sable
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OHHH

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WAT

rotund plank
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Yeah, all the question requires is a small trick

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If you want to learn more about this topic (combinatorics) you should look into the nCr function, it’ll make lots of these questions very easy

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ohhh i see thank u ! i hope i wasnt much of a bother ( ̄ o  ̄*)ゞ

rotund plank
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Nope you were great

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Np

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can i ask more questions if that's alright ?-?

rotund plank
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Go for it

alpine sable
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how do i do this ? :'D

rotund plank
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Think about how many things you can put in each place

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Similarly to last time

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ohhh okay, i see ! thank u sm, have a nice 2dei ૮˵ ´ ˘ ` ˵ა ♡

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Hey so

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My question is, how exactly did they evaluate the limit for the first integral

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After they apply the limit, the exponential in the first integral just disappears

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How ?

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im pretty sure that since the integral varies from 0- to 0+ they just assume that the exponential is 1

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which it will be since that type of integral is really a limit

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its just engineering things tbh

outer stump
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Wait

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Could you explain that step a bit more?

barren bolt
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e^0=1

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and since the integral goes from 0- to 0+ they just use that fact

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the integral is a limit anyways so they just take the limit preemptively im pretty sure

outer stump
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Yeah but

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Is that allowed?

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Seems sus

barren bolt
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i mean tbh an integral from 0- to 0+ seems slightly sus

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its like an integral over a delta function

outer stump
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In what sense

barren bolt
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well it's only non-zero if the function is discontinuous at 0

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so for most functions it doesnt even mean much

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but the discontinuity of f doesnt matter to exp since it is definitely cont.

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thus you can just take that limit on the exponential

outer stump
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So ok

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Because the bounds are situated near 0

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Unless the function is discontinuous, it evaluates to 0?

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yeah since if the function were continuous then the limit of 0- and 0+ are the same

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since that is one way to define continuity

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if both sides of a limit are equal

outer stump
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Ok and why is it possible to evaluate the exponential and not function f?

barren bolt
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well we dont know whether f is continuous

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but we do know exp is

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so it will be 1 for sure

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i think it would be more clear if they did that simplification afterwards

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but it doesnt make a difference really

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whether they take the limit before or after evaluating the integral

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if you want, try to work it out but keep the exp term in until the end

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the lim as s goes to infinity will stay a little longer that way

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but it'll still work in the end

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Hmmm

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I think i get the logic behind it

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So for f to stay we have to assume it's discontinuous

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At 0

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yeah otherwise the integral is zero

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Hi Im currently trying to do induction homework and I'm a bit confused by it I think. The problem is that basically I have to prove that 1/(3n-1)(3n+2)= n/6n+4 and I don't think I'm doing it properly because the step I'm currently on I can't see how its correct

vale sapphire
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Do you mean (3n-1)/(3n+2) or something

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Because there is no way that's correct as it stands

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The former tends towards 0 as n → +∞ and the latter tends towards 1/6

gray isle
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do you have the question exactly as stated?

robust tangle
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yeah would a screenshot help more?

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maybe I'm viewing it wrong

gray isle
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yes, to ensure you aren't misrepresenting the problem

robust tangle
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okay

gray isle
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and/or omitting important details

robust tangle
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The one I was looking for help on was number 1

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but if its just a case of doesn't apply i was hoping to get help for one of the others instead

gray isle
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you pretty much omitted the entire series....

robust tangle
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oh im sorry

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I thought only the last term mattered

gray isle
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have you done any induction before?

robust tangle
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I have but I'm still a bit confused by it

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the first thing I tried to do was set n=k

gray isle
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can you show what you've done so far?

robust tangle
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okay hold on

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This is what I’ve done so far

gray isle
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this is structured poorly, those stray k+1 hovering around don't help either

robust tangle
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oh sorry

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I'm still trying to remember and unsderstand the format so I would just put it there to remember what that value was

gray isle
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you should also have text to separate each section and give brief descriptions of what you're doing

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it's be a good idea to look up a few examples

robust tangle
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i have list of them on my other monitor actually 😅

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mine doesn't quite look like theirs so I'm looking for where I went wrong and to either start new or see what I did wrong

gray isle
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start again

robust tangle
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I have but I got lost again but I've done all the steps similar to the examples ive been looking at

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would you like me to show what ive done over?

gray isle
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yes

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show your new attempt

robust tangle
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at this point i'm confused on where to go 😅

gray isle
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you cant just ignore the whole series

robust tangle
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I'm a bit lost by what you mean im sorry

gray isle
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you can't just set
final term = sum of all the terms

robust tangle
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but how would I use all the terms to find my answer then?

gray isle
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first, write the equations properly

robust tangle
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okay

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thats with all the +'s right

gray isle
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yes

robust tangle
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okay

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do I go back to doing what I was doing before with checking for n=1 and setting n=k after?

gray isle
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show me what you currently have now

robust tangle
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currently its just the equation exactly as is copied down. I'm not sure where im messing up so i'm a bit scared to continue from here

gray isle
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show me exactly what you have

robust tangle
gray isle
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now what will the equation be when n=k

robust tangle
gray isle
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what will the equation be for n=k+1

robust tangle
gray isle
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now the goal is to show that's true using the equation from n=k

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it'd also be helpful to have included the term with 1/((3k-1)(3k+2))

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to prove that if true for $n=k$:
$$\red{\frac{1}{2 \cdot5} +\dots + \frac{1}{(3k-1)(3k+2)}} = \frac{k}{6k+4}$$
then it is also true for $n=k+1$
$$\red{\frac{1}{2 \cdot5} +\dots + \frac{1}{(3k-1)(3k+2)}} + \frac{1}{(3(k+1)-1)(3(k+1)+2)}$$
$$ = \frac{k+1}{6(k+1)+4}$$

ocean sealBOT
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ℝamonov

robust tangle
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oh

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so I add the n=k and the k+1 together to get the k+1

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I think I get it a bit

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hold on

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wouldn't the first thing I want to do is simplify the 2nd equation?

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like distribute the 3 in the denomionator

gray isle
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you can if you want

robust tangle
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well now I'm not really sure about where to go from here

gray isle
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no

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combining the last two terms in the summation doest help you

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and you aren't using the result from n=k either

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(which if don't use, you aren't doing induction)

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note what I highlighted in red in the image above

robust tangle
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so it should look like = k/6k+4?

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wait no

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summnation is what comes after the equal sign right?

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im a little lost sorry by what you mean exactly sorry

gray isle
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summation is the sum of terms

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the stuff on the right of the equal sign is the alleged simplified result

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note that the red part in the equation for n=k,
is present in what you're trying to prove/show

robust tangle
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okay so I dont want to add them is what I'm getting but I'm not sure what else I would want to do otherwise

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would i want to get the result of k+1 on its own?

gray isle
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wdym

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you want to use the result from n=k

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shown in my first equation

robust tangle
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yeah the red one

gray isle
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note that the red stuff is also present in the equation for n=k+1

robust tangle
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im still lost im sorry

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I get i want to use the result from n=k

gray isle
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yes

robust tangle
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and I want to add the result from K+1 to it

gray isle
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wdym by add the result?

robust tangle
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adding the black and red together

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from your picture

gray isle
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try not to overthink this

robust tangle
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on the left side

gray isle
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what does the
red stuff =

robust tangle
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n=k

gray isle
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no

robust tangle
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but its the same?

gray isle
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red stuff does NOT equal the equation n=k

robust tangle
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ohhh

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i meant like

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its the last term

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of n=k

gray isle
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no

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red stuff isnt the last term of the equation n=k either

robust tangle
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but its what happened when we set the last term as n=k from before?

gray isle
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in case it wasn't clear, by red stuff, I'm referring only to the stuff being highlighted in red

robust tangle
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yeah

gray isle
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wdym set the last term

robust tangle
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its what we got at the end of the left side from when you told me n=k

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so in the problem theres the addition of all the fractions

gray isle
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it's the entire equation

robust tangle
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and the red part is the last fraction in that side

gray isle
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every single n is replaced with k

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and the red part is the last fraction in that side
no

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where are you getting that idea

robust tangle
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is that not what it is

gray isle
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no

robust tangle
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if I set k = 3 in the red part

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wait 1 is a easier example

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if i set it to 1

gray isle
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the red part is the summation up to the kth term

robust tangle
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yeah thats what im saying

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its the entire left side

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when you add it

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yes...

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and what does the first equation tell you the red part is equal to?

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sorry im not good at explaining it

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k/6k+4

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parentheses

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k/(6k+4)

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and apply that to your second equation

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thats the part im not sure of I don't get how I can do that

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like im not sure of the steps to take

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try not to overthink this

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to do that

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basic substitution

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wait

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so are you saying

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to make it so that the red

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becomes k/(6k+4)

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yes

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instead of what it is currently

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wait so is that what you've been trying to tell me this whole time?

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wait but not 1 on the right

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on the right 1 is k+1 i just went too fastr

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erase those 3 dots around the bottom left

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oh sorry

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and the rest is more or less algebra

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and my end goal is to make the right and left be the same number right

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right and left of the equal sign

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yes

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okay

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so what I want to do now is factor the denominator for k so it becomes 2(3k+2)

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which is a step in the right direction right?

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and then from there make the denoinators between the 2 terms on the left the same so they can be added together

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so i tried it that way and it definitely doesn't look right

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but i'm not seeing how I can make them equal the same

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oih wait nevermind

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I see my mistake

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where is my mistake? C_2 should be -(4/3) not -(5/3)

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i can't really read your handwriting that well

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mit is the german word for "with"

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i think i have everything right untill the integral calculus

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,w differentiate ((x+1)^3)/3 - 5/3

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,w differentiate (x+1)^2

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,calc ((1+1)^3)/3 - 5/3

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Result:

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,calc (1+1)^2

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Result:

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yea i dont know the solution is -4/3 for C_2

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one sec

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but i have -(5/3)

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.reopen

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@tropic warren how far have you gotten?

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Not far, are you a mod?

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mod?

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Yes

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what's a mod?

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Nvm

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okay

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The answer is

Since rectangle N contains 5 square units, and Rectangle P contains 45 square units, divide 45 by 5 to get your answer

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The answers 9

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Thanks

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Np

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boobz

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how do you get the LCM

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And why would you do that?

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uh

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to find the lcm

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That's the same process for the question you had

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You're multiplying all the denominators to get the LCM

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Another way to think of it is clearing fractions

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Fractions are harder to work with so if you multiply all the terms by the LCM, it makes all the terms not fractions

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By multiplying all the denominators together

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Here, 1/3 + 1/23, you did 23 * 3, to get the LCM

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Same idea with 1/a + 1/b = 1/c

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You multiply all the denominators and that's the LCM

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but what about the c

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cause

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1/3 + 1/23 has no =

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1/a + 1/b = b/ab + a/ba

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As I mentioned, the concept that is being demonstrated is, what I call, clearing fractions

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It doesn't matter if there's an equal sign or not, the process is still the same, you multiply all the denominators together and that's the LCM

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including the c

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?

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so abc?

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That is what all means, it means every denominator

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wait

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so

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its bc/abc + ac/abc = ab/abc?

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Not exactly

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You want to clear fractions

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you can get rid of denominator right

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making it bc +ac =ab

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oh

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To find the LCM, you multiply all the denominators together, in your problem, the LCM is abc

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Then you multiply all the fractions by that LCM

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so its

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abc/a^2bc+abc/b^2ab = abc/c^2ab

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WAIT

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You don't multiply by abc/abc

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abc/a + abc/b = abc/c

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cancel them out

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its bc + ac =ab

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Yes

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thank you

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Not sure how to deal with the the angle x and 2x

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hi