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remote heron
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i think so, yea

late parcel
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Can you elaborate as to how that works

remote heron
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the fundamental theorem of calculus?

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in this case you have a function that describes the total accumulation of f'(x)

late parcel
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Hmm I’ll look that up, thanks

remote heron
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namely f(x)

late parcel
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Oh ok

remote heron
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you could just take f(6), the upper bound

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but you have a problem that you may have started with some accumulation

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so you subtract what was there already when you started counting

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f(6)-f(0)

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in this case, you started at -22, and ended at 2

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so we must have accumulated 24

late parcel
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Interesting

remote heron
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the proof takes some real analysis

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you can find decent explanations that dont require all of that though

late parcel
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Gotcha, thanks

remote heron
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alpine sable
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alpine sable
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the question and working

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this is the answer

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how does 1/2sqrtx occur???????????

glass lichen
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x/sqrt(x)=sqrt(x)

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and d/dx sqrt(x)=1/(2sqrt(x))

alpine sable
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after breaking the bracket you would get x^3 +1

glass lichen
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You would not

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as I just said

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x/sqrt(x) = sqrt(x)

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not 1

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review your exponent laws

alpine sable
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x^3 is right tho for the first part?

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so what would you put down for the second bit?

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wait.

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nvm, i coped the q wrong, i’ll retry that again, sorry

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ah i see

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right okay thanks again

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rich basin
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rich basin
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q5

glass lichen
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what about it?

rich basin
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I am confused on it

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I am stucvk on one part of it

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@glass lichen what do you think i shjould do?

glass lichen
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You never posted a question

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so idk what you expect me to say.

rich basin
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I said question 5

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on the image

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glass lichen
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Not a question.

rich basin
glass lichen
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That's just the finite geometric series formula

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What is the question?

rich basin
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It says at thevery top of the page "Prove by mathematical induction"

glass lichen
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That's the question.

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but anyway, where are you stuck?

rich basin
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From the image i sent you, I'm stuck at trying to simplify it

glass lichen
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$\frac{a(1-r^n)}{1-r}+ar^{n}$

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glass lichen
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by the IH

rich basin
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@glass lichen How does (1-r^n+1) divide 1-r into that?

glass lichen
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what?

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also: It's easier to assume k-1 and prove k

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just from a writing stand point

rich basin
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why is that?

glass lichen
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cause the LHS of the RTP statement ends at n-1

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assume that $\sum_{i=1}^{k-1}ar^i=\frac{a(1-r^k)}{1-r}$

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glass lichen
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Your assumption is also written wrong

rich basin
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what did i do wrong?

glass lichen
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the general term in the summation is clearly not what you have written

rich basin
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what general term

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the counter?

glass lichen
rich basin
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isn't it right?

glass lichen
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It isn't

rich basin
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I have a j above the r

glass lichen
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as I just said

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the general term of the LHS is ar^j

rich basin
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oh right

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shouldn't it be ar^j-1

glass lichen
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yes, same difference though

rich basin
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Thanks manged t oget the anwer

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and also fort (6)

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what is a good way to do it?

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when you have numbers that can already be factored by 2304 can I just get rid of them?

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@rich basin Has your question been resolved?

rich basin
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I am raelly confused on what to do next

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@crisp iron

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rich basin
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@crisp iron

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@rich basin Has your question been resolved?

alpine sable
rich basin
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it is at the very top of the page

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it is to prove this by induction

urban pine
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the first picture you sent is cut off, it starts at question 2
that's why no one knows what you want (there is no question in that picture...)

rich basin
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@urban pine the previous part is not part of the latest image i've sent

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the latest image is at the top but it is prove by mathematical induction

urban pine
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oh sorry i see now
but is this not finished? what do you mean to do next?

rich basin
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@urban pine the image above is my working out

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and I'm confused how can i get it to the RHS

urban pine
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well first off: you're coming from the rhs and trying to show that equals the lhs (otherwise you have assumed what you're trying to prove)

second: the bracketed expression you have substituted with your inductive hypothesis isn't valid (notice the terms aren't exactly the same; e.g. the first term is x^{k-1} c but there is no c in your IH), and even still you'd have to distribute that (x - c) term in the next step.

is there any reason you don't want to use the proof from below? does it not make sense or are you trying to do it independently?

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rich basin
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@urban pine I don't get the proof from below

urban pine
urban pine
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i gotta go now, but i do think the lower proof is quite clear
i'd recommend writing it out by hand and following what they do
try to justify each line
i'm sure others here can help you too 🙂

rich basin
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how do we do (b)

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<@&286206848099549185>

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@crisp iron

vale wigeon
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15 min rule...

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but also this is literally the inductive step

rich basin
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@vale wigeon Im' really confused what to do next?

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it doesn't give you what sn+1 equals to ?

vale wigeon
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k, not n. let's not mangle the book's notation unnecessarily.

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also you should know that $s_{k+1} = s_k + u_{k+1}$ literally by the definition of ``sum of the first $k$ terms of the series''

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rich basin
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okay that makes sense

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@vale wigeon so do i substitute that identity

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and then reason it as "given"

vale wigeon
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reason it as "given"
are you forced to make a two-column proof for this or something??

rich basin
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Shouldn't we give a reason why we can subtitute that?

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and for (c) can isay from (b)

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substitute n

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and we get that n/2n+1 which is equal to the expression they have given us?

vale wigeon
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the sum of the first k+1 terms is the sum of the first k terms plus the (k+1)'th term

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i don't know how else to say it to you

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if you refuse to use this then by all means feel free to struggle along

rich basin
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It should be fine, pretty sure the reason system should be lenient

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what about for (c)

vale wigeon
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induction lmao

rich basin
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@vale wigeon how can i use inductino?

vale wigeon
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in part (b) you literally proved the inductive step of part c

rich basin
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@vale wigeon i'm confused on how to solve q6 \

vale wigeon
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do i understand correctly that you have decided to abandon the previous question?

rich basin
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i ithkn i solved (c)

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(b) I managed to get it down to the rhs

vale wigeon
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so you've decided to continue on your own but chose not to tell me

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not even "i think i got it from here, thanks"

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kinda rude

rich basin
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Sorry, I thought I got it

rich basin
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shell widget
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@rich basin Try using sin(A+B) = sin(A)cos(B) + cos(A)sin(B)

rich basin
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@shell widget Where?

shell widget
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q6

rich basin
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I used it at the beginning

shell widget
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Yes so you have sin(x)cos(180n)

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are you required to do induction?

rich basin
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yeah

shell widget
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ok so you just need to show that cos(180n) = (-1)^n

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which can be done easily

rich basin
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I think i got it

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Thanks and also do you know how to find the limit of ii)

shell widget
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yeah its correct

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have u found the sum?

rich basin
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yeah

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I proved the sum in the previous question

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but not too sure about the limit

shell widget
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what is it

rich basin
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q6 is that

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and it is equal to ther second image above

shell widget
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so take the result for the sum from the previous part which im guessing is (1/5)(n)(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)(n+4)

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divide this by n^5 and then take the limt as n goes to infinity

rich basin
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yeah

shell widget
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you can write n^5 as n n n n n

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and so you put each n in each bracket

rich basin
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yeah

shell widget
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so you have (1/5)(n/n)[(n+1)/n][(n+2)/n][(n+3)/n][(n+4)/n]

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then do some dividing

rich basin
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I'm confused by your n+1/n part

shell widget
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?

rich basin
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so you divided by n?

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wouldn't you have to divide the sum as well?

shell widget
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i divided the sum of the series given which is (1/5)(n)(n+1)(n+2)(n+3)(n+4) by n^5

rich basin
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yeah

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Okay so what do we do next?

shell widget
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so you divide

rich basin
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@shell widget I confused what to do nmext?

rich basin
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so it's just 1/5?

shell widget
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yes

rich basin
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q9 should be an easy one

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just I can't seem to factor it down

rich basin
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rich basin
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@crisp iron

rich basin
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<@&286206848099549185>

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small flint
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help

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@crisp iron

wispy wing
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i feel very stupid for not knowing these

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index notation

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7^2 + 4^3 is wrong

robust geode
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Where did your + come from ?

wispy wing
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idk, is it times?

robust geode
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Answer my question

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You had a reason

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I'm trying to understand it

wispy wing
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it was more or less a guess because i knew it wouldnt be timsed

noble sinew
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Don’t steal a channel

robust geode
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Yeah create your own

noble sinew
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You want to show 6(1^2+…+(k+1)^2)=(k+1)(k+2)(2(k+1)+1)

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Not what you wrote down

robust geode
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You didn't write the proper thing you had to prove

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stuck geyser
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I'm trying to graph a sphere on a 3D point cloud but I'm a bit confused on x^2 + y^2 + z^2, if I looped through each point and ran it through that equation, the result would be... ?

lethal tendon
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how do you plan on looping through each point?

bleak ridge
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Well that itself isnt even an equation

stuck geyser
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Just using python

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isnt the format a = x^2 + y^2 + z^2?

bleak ridge
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r^2 = x^2 + y^2 + z^2

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Its just 3d pythagorean theorem

lethal tendon
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looping through each and every point would theoretically give you that sphere but you'll be working in discrete intervals, so maybe you'll have to introduce a tolerance to the r value

bleak ridge
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Because you want an equal distance to a certain point

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The definition of a sphere

stuck geyser
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Ohh yeah I see

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So for context I'm doing Stand up Math's Christmas tree thing, and I want to change the rbg values of a given LED (point) if it lies on the edge of the sphere, I suppose I would have to write something to turn on the LED if it's near the given point since it's discrete @lethal tendon

lethal tendon
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yup that's the right idea

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when deciding on the size of that tolerance value, you can maybe consider the average distance between LED pixels, just an idea

stuck geyser
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Yeah I figured, I already have some code that finds nearest neighbor but its O(N*M) so it's pretty slow, I think just messing around with a straight distance value would be a lot faster with a decent result.
So to be clear, r^2 = z^2 + y^2 + z^2 gives the distance from the center of the sphere. I should generate a template sphere, and then run all my coords through the same equation and if r is similar enough then change the color

lethal tendon
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that only gives the distance from the centre of the sphere if the sphere is centred at the origin

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also, the computation speed shouldn't matter too too much right? I heard stand up math's doing pre-rendered displays this year

stuck geyser
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Okay I think I got a good start, yeah correct but my code is getting pretty slow and I would rather have it optimized a bit for testing the csv a bunch

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thanks for the help 👍

lethal tendon
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np, I look forward to seeing your display

stuck geyser
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I'll ping you when I get it working

lethal tendon
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noice

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It's .close

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dull onyx
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yes i know that the limit is the derivative definition

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but idk how to go on abt writing it

urban pine
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that's not the limit definition of the derivative

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i think you'll use that info tho

dull onyx
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oh really?

urban pine
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it's similar looking

dull onyx
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i got confused

tawdry saffron
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do you have f(x)?

dull onyx
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no

urban pine
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i don't think you need it

dull onyx
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hhh

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i dont get it

urban pine
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the definitions?

dull onyx
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no wjat im supposed to do

urban pine
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i think if we find f'(2) using that definition and that hint above we have shown the limit exists and so it's differentiable there, and also have found the value

dull onyx
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what limit

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first of all i made a typo

prisma copper
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im pretty sure you have to use the rules of lospital

urban pine
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we haven't shown f is differentiable yet

echo socket
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For that you need to prove that f(x) is differentiable

prisma copper
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oh right, sorry

urban pine
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i'd start with the lower definition i posted earlier (deriv at c) and see if you can evaluate it

dull onyx
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yea well idk how to use that

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without a function

urban pine
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just write f(x); that's your function

echo socket
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Wait I think I got it

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The limit at 0 of f(2 + h)/h would exist iff f(2 + h) approaches 0, no?

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Otherwisely it'd approach ±infinity

dull onyx
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yes

echo socket
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So we can say that limit at 2 of f(x) is 0

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But f(x) is continuous so we can plug in x=2 there

dull onyx
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and bc its continuous

echo socket
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So f(2) = 0

dull onyx
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yep

echo socket
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This f(2 + h) - 0 = f(2 + h) - f(2)

dull onyx
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that’s what i was thinking but idk how to write it correctly

echo socket
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Thus*

dull onyx
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yep so it is the derivative limit

echo socket
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I think the rest is trivial

dull onyx
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so i say

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that the limit of f(x) as x approaches 2 needs to be 0?

echo socket
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Yes

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Because if it approaches some nonzero value

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Then f(2 + h)/h would go to infinity

dull onyx
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ohh yes

echo socket
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So by contradiction, it approaches 0 instead

dull onyx
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so f(2) = 0

echo socket
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Yup

dull onyx
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then the limit definition of derivative is right there

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so its differentiable and the derivative is 3 at x=2

urban pine
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wait i see that now

echo socket
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f is continutous at 2, so the limit of f at 2 exists and is equal to f(2)

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\begin{align*}
f'(2)
&= \lim_{x \to 2} \frac{f(x) - f(2)}{x - 2} \\
&= \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(h + 2) - f(2)}{h} \\
&= \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(h + 2)}{h} - \lim_{h \to 0} \frac{f(2)}{h} \\
&= 3 - 0
\end{align*}
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help

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Question 16

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what have you tried/thought?

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@silk steeple

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silk steeple
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sorry I went to eat

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my bad

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so I used the discriminat

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then I got it to

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4-4k^2+2k=0

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the hard thing is

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In the book for some reason there’s no answer for this question

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strangely

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Hello, I have a problem

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ruby summit
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How do I solve x^2/2^x = a

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If I know 'a'

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$\frac{x^2}{2^x} = a$

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ruby summit
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And is it possible to extend the solution to $\frac{x^b}{b^x} = a$

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ruby summit
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Where I know 'a' and 'b'

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ruby summit
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We can imagine that we know

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So we can find x in relation to a

marsh rapids
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I.e. a in R+

ruby summit
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Or we could try an example of 1

ruby summit
marsh rapids
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Do you know of the Lambert W function ?

ruby summit
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No

raw shard
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oh no not the lambert w function

ruby summit
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I can google it but that may take a while, do you have a summary?

raw shard
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those are impossible to set up

marsh rapids
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It's quite simple here: 2 = e^ln 2, put the denominator as a negative exponent and take the square root of the whole thing. The rest is easy

gilded olive
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You will simply multiply by the "cross" method, you will level the foundations and work with the exponents

marsh rapids
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The W function is defined as the inverse of x e^x, so u e^u = k <=> u=W(k)

ruby summit
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So $x^2 = a2^x$ Then, $x^2 = ae^{Ln(2)}x$

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marsh rapids
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So it's all about putting the equation in the right form, taking W of it, then solving for x

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x^2 e^(-x ln(2)) = a, then you can take the sqrt to get rid of the square on the outer x

ruby summit
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Ohhh

marsh rapids
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Then multiply by -ln2 /2, apply W to isolate -x ln2 /2 and you get x from that

ruby summit
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But what happens to $e^{-xLn(2)}$ when I take the square root

raw shard
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sorry i’m not understanding this and i really wanna see the solution

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raw shard
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could you type it out

marsh rapids
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(a^b)^1/2 = a^(b/2)

ruby summit
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Sorry, about me not making that connection

marsh rapids
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Haven't written it out but I think it's -2/ln(2) * W(-ln(2)/2 * sqrt(a))

ruby summit
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And thank you,

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Is there a more, I guess elegant, solution to W(x)?

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Rather than saying W(x)

marsh rapids
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There are some dirty formulas, either series or integrals

ruby summit
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Okay

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Thank you for your time, patience, and help!

marsh rapids
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You can find them on Wikipedia

prisma copper
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this sounds like the rule about cheating in assignments on this server...

raw shard
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thanks now i know not to help you

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@ruby summit can you do .close

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if you’re done

prisma copper
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Think about the people who actually solve this by themselves. Also if it isn't "on points" you shouldnt bother and wait for an answer.
It's an "olympiade" that should say something about fair play.. no?

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But there is a timelimit on your math skills? Also your math skills force you to beg in EVERY other help channel? Ngl. this is just getting even more bad mannered at this point

glass lichen
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Just stick to 1 channel and wait.

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No one's entitled to help you as well

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Cause you're asking a contest question.

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Good idea.

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@prisma copper drop it.

prisma copper
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didnt see the answer, my bad

marsh rapids
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Also for a question like this, you'd probably have a better chance in the math olympiads server

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Oh hello

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Can you help me with this geometry question

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<@&286206848099549185> can you please help me with this question

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@crisp iron

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Please help

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@pine bronze use the process of elimintation

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do you know what supplementary angles are?

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a is incorrect because L1 and L3 are parallel not supplementary

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and you can use this process to eliminate the rest

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hi guys for this question when i do u sub, why i do not need to change the limits of u?

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you should be changing your bounds when doing sub

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how so?

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the work written on the page is invalid

hollow pelican
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the online calculator didnt change the bound too

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the online calc is doing indefinite integrals (where there are no bounds)

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as opposed to a definite integral which you have which does have bounds

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opps i forgot to screenshot the final working

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technically you don't "need" to explicitly change you bounds
but if you use that approach you would need to explicitly write
**x=**1 for your lower bound
and **x=**3 for the upper bound

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gray isle
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you're conflating the two approaches

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when updating the bounds, the bounds are now related to u
and you don't sub back x anymore

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gray isle
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technically once you reach
your upper bound is u=4.0986
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so sub those values in directly

hollow pelican
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but its wrong

gray isle
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you unnecessarily subbed x=3 + ln|x| back in

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where if you updated your bounds earlier such that you have

your upper bound is u=4.0986
and your lower bound is u=3
that is no longer required

hollow pelican
gray isle
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wdym

hollow pelican
gray isle
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if you choose the route where you sub back u=3+ln|x| then you'd use
x=3 and x=1 for your bounds

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if you use that route, you'd need to explicitly write x=3 and x=1 for your bounds while your integral and expressions are in u

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okay

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What's the difference between:
$\sum^{\infty}{i=1} ...$
and
$\lim
{n \rightarrow \infty} \sum^{n}_{i=1} ...$

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THEBIGTHREE

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nothing

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when people say $\sum^{\infty}{i=1} ...$ they usually mean $\lim{n \rightarrow \infty} \sum^{n}_{i=1} ...$

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just bob

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prior is defined as latter

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ah alright so its basically just a shorthand

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yes

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(wow, sync)

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I know how to work out everything but i just dont understand how to work out the shape of the curve?

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Factor completely

Find zeros

Find multiplicity of the zeros (odd or even)

Find y intercept

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You know the end behavior from the degree

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It either vaguely resembles a parabola or a cubic (even degree vs odd degree)

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Check for lead coefficient if it's negative you have to flip upside down (reflect over x axis)

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In this case

Degree is 4

It's like a parabola sort of

Draw from the top left. It reaches the zero on that side:

(-5,0)

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Factored form tells you multiplicity is 1 (exponent on that factor)

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You know that it must touch y intercept down there so you go all the way down to that point

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Then you know it must come back up to the next zero:

(4,0)

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Pass through and finish from there @royal patrol

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Show that for any real numbers a, b, c, the following inequality is true:
a^2 + b^2 + c^2 >= ab + ac + bc

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Moving them on one side:
a^2 - ab - ac + b^2 - bc + c^2

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a(a-b) -c(a-b) + b^2 + c^2

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(a-c)(a-b) + b^2 + c^2

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No idea what to do now

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(a-c)(a-b) + (b+c)^2- 2bc, mby

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there is a geometric solution to this that involves reducing your inequality to Cauchy-Schwarz for three-dimensional vectors

pseudo mesa
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i'll leran vectors later

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it's time to practice algebra

vale wigeon
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consider: $(a+b+c)^2 = a^2 + b^2 + c^2 + 2(ab+bc+ca)$

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consider also that instead of $a^2 + b^2 + c^2 \overset?\geq ab+bc+ca$ you can prove $2(a^2+b^2+c^2) \overset?\geq 2(ab+bc+ca)$

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er wait no nevermind

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that won't work as i intended it to

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i thought i had it but no

pseudo mesa
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ann

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i looked up the tip to this problem

pseudo mesa
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so that's probably what they wnat me to do

gray isle
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consider
LHS = 1/2(a^2 + b^2 + a^2 + c^2 + b^2 + c^2)

vale wigeon
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you can't do shit with a^2 + b^2 + c^2 - 2ab - 2bc - 2ca though can you?

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it's not the square of a three-term sum

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that's what i was (erroneously) trying to hint at

vale wigeon
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oh but yeah ramonov has it

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yes i see it now

gray isle
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the same problem has come up multiple times here

pseudo mesa
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(a-b)^2 + (b-c)^2 + (a-c)^2
a^2 - 2ab + b^2

  • b^2 -2bc + c^2
  • a^2 - 2ac + c^2
    =
    2a^2 + 2b^2 + 2c^2 - 2ab - 2bc - 2ac | /2
    a^2 + b^2 + c^2 - ab - bc - ac
    so
    1/2((a-b)^2 + (b-c)^2 + (a-c)^2) >= 0, cause every term is >= 0
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this?

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@gray isle @vale wigeon

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I have a question related slightly to college applications. The school I’m applying for wants to see that I’m learning matrices, linear systems of equations and determinants. This is the current curriculum I’m learning/presenting to them. Is this satisfactory to the requirements? What else should I know and brush up on? For context, I’m applying to a data science course.

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and you should find a good thicc textbook

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prove f(0) = -2a 😐

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Plug in y = 0

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The equation follows immediately

dull onyx
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i feel so stuoid thank u😭

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when i differentiate something like this do i treat x as a constant

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Depends on with respect to what variable are you differentiating

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i gotta prove f’(x) = 2x + f’(0)

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yep i differentiated with respect to y

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and plugged 0 in and got it

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how would you choose bin sizes / the amount of bins for a time series? There seem to be several ways and some academic papers even say that they just chose bins based on visualisation. My time series looks like this:

timestamp value
0 2016-01-01 00:00:00+00:00 168.409707
1 2016-01-01 01:00:00+00:00 178.316160
2 2016-01-01 02:00:00+00:00 231.811009
3 2016-01-01 03:00:00+00:00 218.932619
4 2016-01-01 04:00:00+00:00 159.493899
... ...
8758 2016-12-30 22:00:00+00:00 291.019066
8759 2016-12-30 23:00:00+00:00 275.181294

[8760 rows x 2 columns]

standard deviation: 86.979259
min value : 34.635974
max value: 582.499458
mean: 228.99427

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help

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question 19

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I multiplied the top by the bottom to get rid of the denominator

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And I’ve gotten

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P=6x^3 -3x^2+6x-3

gray isle
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can you show all work leading up to that

silk steeple
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okay

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1 second

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I multiplied (x^2+1) by 3

gray isle
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that's no longer p

silk steeple
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wait

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Oh…

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Do I need multiply p by that too?

gray isle
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thats p*(2x-1)^2

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the simplest approach would be to sub in your p to the lhs and see what happens

silk steeple
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I see

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let me do that 1 second

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hm

glass lichen
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now do what Ramonov suggested

silk steeple
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I don’t know how to do that

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sorry

gray isle
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don't overthink it

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apply basic substitution

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like how would show if x=3,
then x-1>0

silk steeple
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Am I going in the right direction

glass lichen
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No

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You're ignoring what Ram is saying

silk steeple
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I don’t know how to substitute

glass lichen
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Answer this then....

silk steeple
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The discriminant?

glass lichen
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??????

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since when was x-1 a quadratic??

silk steeple
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OH

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you would sub it in

glass lichen
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Yes

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x-1
3-1
2>0

silk steeple
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I need to do it here

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I’m stuck

gray isle
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don't overthink it

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the basic principle of sub is to replace something with something of equivalent value

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so your first step could be to first replace/substitute the ps in the lhs with whatever you're told p is

silk steeple
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wait

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this?

gray isle
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wdym?

silk steeple
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I actually don’t know what to do

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I see nothing to substitute except for the question

gray isle
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in case it wasn't clear,
replace the ps in
p^2 - 3(p+3)
with whatever you're told p is.

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i.e with 3(x^2+1)/(2x-1)

silk steeple
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Wouldn’t p = -3

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I think

gray isle
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why?

silk steeple
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(P+3)

gray isle
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what?

silk steeple
gray isle
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you're overthinking and/or not reading what I'm saying

silk steeple
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I’m trying to understand

gray isle
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like how would show
if x=3, then x-1>0

silk steeple
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P = 3(x^2+1)/(2x-1)

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wait

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3-1>0

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we sub the 3 for x?

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I’m not sure

gray isle
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yeh...

silk steeple
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hm

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i should be able to do this by myself but somehow stuck lol

vague coral
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did you try squaring a/b + b/a = 5 ?

tame light
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and then..?

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maybe try rewrite both given equations in terms of (a + b) and ab

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why does it true? can someone please give me an example with numbers?

echo socket
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Didn't see that both denominators are AB

warped spruce
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yes but it could be 6/3, 9/3 and this is not the same number, or is it?

vale wigeon
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6/3 ≠ 9/3. the top equality doesn't hold.

tight locust
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This is what we call a biconditional statement

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It goes both ways

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The top is true only if the bottom is true and the bottom is true only if the top is true

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Haha

warped spruce
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hahahahh

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but I didn't understand why the top is true

vale wigeon
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well without context we can't tell you either

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it might be that you ripped this out of a geometry problem

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but then you would have to show us a diagram with the points A, B, E, F, G, H labeled

warped spruce
tight locust
vale wigeon
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this is not an axiom

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do not spread misinfo

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but also is there anything else given about this diagram

tame light
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can we have the whole question lol?

warped spruce
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so I just need to understand why if the button is equal so the top is equal

vale wigeon
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???

tame light
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lmao what

warped spruce
vale wigeon
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so first you say you couldn't understand why EG/AB = HF/AB, but now you say you were able to prove it?

warped spruce
vale wigeon
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......

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so what was "yes but i was able to prove this" about?

warped spruce
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I was able to prove that EG/AB = HF/AB

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it wasn't given in the question

tight locust
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It's true by reflexion haha. If x=y then x/3 = y/3 because x/3 = x/3. You can't get much simpler than that

warped spruce
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I am a little bit dumb to be honest hahahah

vale wigeon
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are you trying to spread misinfo / terminology misuse again

warped spruce
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hahahahaha

vale wigeon
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@warped spruce do you understand that if x = y then 2x = 2y

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yes or no

warped spruce
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yes

vale wigeon
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ok

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do you understand that if x = y then cx = cy (for any number c)

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yes or no

warped spruce
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yes

vale wigeon
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okay

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so

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EF/AB = HG/AB

tight locust
vale wigeon
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"If x=y then x/3 = y/3" has nothing to do w/ equality being reflexive

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anyway

warped spruce
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6/3 != 9/3

vale wigeon
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EF/AB = HG/AB
multiply both sides by AB
(EF/AB) * AB = (HG/AB) * AB
simplify
EF = HG

warped spruce
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so you can't say that if the button is equal so the top for my opinion

tight locust
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"Because x/3 = x/3"

vale wigeon
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@warped spruce i think you might want to remind yourself of what "IF ___ THEN ___" means

warped spruce
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but idk if you put numbers like EF =6 and HG = 3, you will get a wrong answer no?

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6 / 3 != 3/3

vale wigeon
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okay, and?

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that doesn't mean the argument is invalid

warped spruce
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this means that the 2 above numbers aren't for sure equal

vale wigeon
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it's like when someone says "if it rains then my daughter stays inside" and you respond with "but it's sunny and she's playing outside, so you're lying!"

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we're taking EF/AB = HG/AB as a premise

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we assume it is true and everything we do afterwards follows from it

warped spruce
vale wigeon
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we do not give values to any of the three lengths involved in the equation, no.

warped spruce
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yes you can prove it by multiplaying both sides with AB sure

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but if you put numbers it wont worj

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work

vale wigeon
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if you feed bullshit in you'll get bullshit out

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i fail to see how this is in any way surprising

severe sluice
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generally we can perform any valid action on both sides of an equation to get another equivalent equation

warped spruce
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alright I think I got it, tyyyy!

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@severe sluice @severe sluice 🙂

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warped spruce
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ohhhh XD

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@vale wigeon TYYY

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I am so out today

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hahahah

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anyway Ty guys!

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wait @vale wigeon what happens when you multiplay AB/HG * AB

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warped spruce
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how does the equestion will see before you simplify

vale wigeon
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we never had any AB/HG? we had HG/AB...

warped spruce
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my problem is that idk how to simplify stuff

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so ye

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it doesn't matter

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just for the example

vale wigeon
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you do not know how to simplify (HG/AB)*AB into just HG?

warped spruce
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I forgot hahahah

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Ik you can do it because I mermorized it

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and I want to understand the math behind it

vale wigeon
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there is nothing to understand

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division and multiplication by defn undo each other

warped spruce
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but you can do it only if there is not + or - in the exercise

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no?

gray isle
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wdym

warped spruce
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I don't understand why you can reduce the a

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like the math behind it

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you divide by a each side?

gray isle
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assuming a isn't 0,

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divide each side by a

warped spruce
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sheshhhhhhh

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tyyyy bro!

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🙂

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so like a/ sinB * a = 2a/ a right @gray isle ?

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and then you just reduce the a

gray isle
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it feels like you're missing parentheses

warped spruce
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wdum?

gray isle
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because it looks like you're multiplying the left side by a
but dividing the right side by a

warped spruce
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so is it a/ sinB/a?

gray isle
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no

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(a/(sin(B))/a
or (a/ (a * sin(B))

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parentheses are required when typing stuff

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\verb|a/ sinB * a| is interpreted as $\frac{a}{\sin(B)} \cdot a$

ocean sealBOT
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ℝamonov

gray isle
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even though you may have intended
$$\frac{a}{\sin(B)\cdot a}$$
typing stuff in a line of text does not have the benefit from horizontal fraction lines

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ℝamonov

gray isle
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so parentheses are required to communicate clearly

warped spruce
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if you want to divide AB/CD by a, you do AB/(CD * a)

gray isle
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when communicating in plain text, yeh

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when writing it out on paper, (or using math type)
$$\frac{AB}{CD \cdot a}$$
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warped spruce
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alright and multiplaying AB/CD * a in a paper: AB * a / CD right?

tired pagoda
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why bro?

tired pagoda
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AB/CD*1/a

gray isle
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they're equivalent singh

warped spruce
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yes because you can make in 2 fractions by multiplication

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I think

gray isle
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$\frac{AB}{CD} \cdot a$ and $\frac{a\cdot AB}{CD}$ are both fine

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ℝamonov

warped spruce
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and when you divide by a?

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how does it look like?

gray isle
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choose whichever: \
$\frac{\br{\frac{AB}{CD}}}{a}$ \ \
$\frac{AB}{a\cdot CD}$ \ \
$\frac{AB}{CD}\cdot \frac1a$

tired pagoda
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How this bot works

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ℝamonov

gray isle
tired pagoda
warped spruce
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Thanks bro

gray isle
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basic understanding of functions, mathematical notation, parentheses usage helps a lot

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@gray isle thanks a lot bro 🙂

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idk wgat to do

echo socket
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Is this a test?

dusky osprey
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no

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drfrost

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Here depth of the bowl would be the minimum value of y

dusky osprey
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is that bc itd yhe lowest point

echo socket
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Yes

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Ight

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what do i do next

echo socket
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A parabola y = ax^2 + bx + c reaches its maximum or minimum (in this case minimum) at x = -b/2a

dusky osprey
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-b/2a?

echo socket
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Yes

dusky osprey
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Why is it that

echo socket
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Have you been introduced to derivatives yet?

dusky osprey
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Im not even sure

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it came up as mock gcse revison so i should know it

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oh

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r using the quadratic formula

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You can either substitute x = -b/2a into the equation to get the lowest value of y

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Or define value M such that $\frac{x^2}{10} - 3x \ge M$ for all x

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(Clearly the first way is simpler)

dusky osprey
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r u using this formula to get it

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-b/2a?

echo socket
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Well if you view x = -b/2a as midpoint between the quadratic roots, then yeah

coral moss
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I think differentiation is either in GCSE further maths or A-level (can't remember) so at gcse you have to complete the square to find the minimum/maximum point

dusky osprey
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this is the mark scheme but they done complete sqaee

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coral moss
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the method using x = -b/2a is simpler to do but uses "more advanced concepts"

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tbh if it's GCSE id say just complete the square cuz they might not give you the marks for differentiating even though it's technically better

dusky osprey
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Ight

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why is it -225 on the end

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15^2

coral moss
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yeah you need to get rid of the 15^2

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like here -> x^2 + 14x = (x+7)^2 - 196

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because if you do (x-15)^2 you get left over with + 225

dusky osprey
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Oksy

alpine sable
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Completing the square seems silly

dusky osprey
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I havennt been taught anything else

coral moss
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yeah it is but it's the way we had to do it at GCSE

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and idk if id get marks

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i think i get it now

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is 1/A+1/B=AB/A+B? NO it isn't but what if we flip the value of the left side of the equation? meaning if we plug in values for A and B in the left side of the equation and then we flip the fraction is the above identity equal or no?

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I tried it for a few values and it worked but idk if it works with ALL NUMBERS

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can someone confirm?

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Hi.

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Do you mean to say...?

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$\frac{1}{A}+\frac{1}{B}=\frac{A+B}{AB}$

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quaint pine
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no the right side of the equation is flipped

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AB/A+B

median dirge
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Well.

quaint pine
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it wouldn't be equal ik

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$\frac{1}{A}+\frac{1}{B}\ne\frac{AB}{A+B}$

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Yes

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but my question is

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if we plug in values for A and B in the left side of equation and we got 3/5 for example

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and then we flip it so we get 5/3

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would that ALWAYS be equal to the right side of the equation if we plug in the same values

median dirge
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Lool

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Look

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When you flip a valu

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Value

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It is like this

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Say.

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I flip 2

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What will i get

quaint pine
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1/2

median dirge
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Nice

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And if i flip 1/2

quaint pine
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2

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what's your point

median dirge
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So

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The thing i

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If you flip

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(AB)/(A+B)

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In general form

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So...

median dirge
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Means

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You arrive at what i showed first

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can anyone help me with descriptive geometry?

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No need to ask that question in several channels at once

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I can't find anyone that knows about it

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im looking for help to answer question on the subject dumbass

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why would i just want to know that information

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How do you expect to get help on a question you haven't asked?

cedar bridge
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you cant answer it if you dont know descriptive geometry

glass lichen
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How do you know I am not be able to help?

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Like... do you see the absurdity of what you're saying?

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Drop the attitude and ask a question like the typical user.

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3.Represent, by its projections, a regular triangular prism, with the base [ABC] contained in a ramp plane .⎯hefdistant from the axis x 4 and 5 cm, respectively;⎯the edge [AB]of the base is contained in a straight line oblique whose frontal projection is 75º with the x(opened to the left) axis; the apex is 4.5 in height; the edges of the base of the prism measure 5 cm; the height measures 6 cm.

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thats what i thought

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you cant answer it

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whether they can answer or not is not the point, asking to ask is a waste of time, you could've posted the question right away to begin with

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people on discord are dumb as fuck

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ill just uninstall this

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i have a question about dice probability. I've tried to phrase it in a general mathematical way, but let me know if you want me to explain what I'm trying to do in terms of the game.

If i have x number of y-sided dice
how would I calculate the probability that any two dice from the dice rolled would add up to the number rolled by a 2y-sided die

high raven
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(for example, if I rolled 5 4-sided dice, what is the probability that two of them add to 6 (the result of an 8-sided die)

arctic gust
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you also threw the 8 sided die?

high raven
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yes

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When I say "any two dice" I mean the best choice.

arctic gust
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k

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because you didn't mention exactly what number appears on the 2y sided die

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it could even be a 1

high raven
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Sorry, I should be more clear

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I'm not looking for a solution, I'm looking for an equation, or a place to start building an equation that would let me see the answer for a number of variables

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I'm mostly confused on how to put dice rolls into an equation at all.

arctic gust
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i think there's no chance cos you cant get a 1 from the sum of 2 dice

high raven
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I think I'm explaining it badly. I'll close this and come back when I have more time to show what I mean

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ok

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Thank you!! Sorry for the confusion

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I need help with this

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I am not sure how to solve this

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i like to solve them individually and then plot them on a numberline

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since it's OR you have to include the solutions from both

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Ummm that's kinda confusing

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solve them individually first

swift jolt
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ok

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alpine sable
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when 3 planes have a single intersection

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is that a sheaf?

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when there is a single point where they intersect

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either thats a sheaf, or its a sheaf when they all intersect along a single line

knotty sleet
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A sheaf is when they intersect in a line

alpine sable
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i get confused between the two

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ah so sheaf is line

knotty sleet
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Yeah that

alpine sable
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what is a single point?

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does it have a name?

knotty sleet
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Idk if there's a name

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If there is I don't know it

elfin snow
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"point of intersection"

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ezpz

alpine sable
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what is a prismatic intersection

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is that when its a triangle?

knotty sleet
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Basically yh

alpine sable
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can it be a prismatic intersection if the 3 planes form a matrix which is singular?

knotty sleet
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So the planes bound a triangular prism

alpine sable
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but im looking at this question rn

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which is singular but apparently its prismatic intersection

knotty sleet
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Yeah if it's prismatic then there's no solution

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Because there's nowhere that lies on all three planes

alpine sable
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hmm im slightly confused wont lie

knotty sleet
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So the matrix is singular

alpine sable
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so if matrix is singular

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there is no solution

knotty sleet
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No

alpine sable
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but can it be a ohhhh wait i think i got it

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wait no i didnt

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o

knotty sleet
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The other way around

alpine sable
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no unique solution?

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idk what that means

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prismatic means no solution though?

knotty sleet
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If there's no solution then it's singular

alpine sable
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and its singular?

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no solution = singular ok alright

knotty sleet
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Not quite, singular means determinant 0

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So it's not invertible

alpine sable
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which means it can either be no solutions or infinitely many solutions?

knotty sleet
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Yea

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I just means no unique solution

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*it

alpine sable
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so its sheaf or prismatic

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as long as they aren't parallel planes

knotty sleet
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THey also can't be the same plane

alpine sable
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otherwise if determinant is not zero, then it is a single intersection

knotty sleet
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And can't be two parallel with the third cutting them

alpine sable
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oh yes theres that shape too

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2 parallel planes with 1 cutting them both

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thats 2 lines of solution

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so thats 5 different things they can be right:

knotty sleet
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That's no solution