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glass lichen
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which is clearly a composition of functions

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This is also why just doing chain rule on sin(x+y) is more efficient, as opposed to compound angle then differentiate

alpine sable
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wtf is a composition of functions

glass lichen
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1st graders dont do calculus so... no

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$f(g(x))$ is f composed with g...

ocean sealBOT
alpine sable
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i said explain like I’m a first grader

glass lichen
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use chain rule when function inside function.

alpine sable
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where am I supposed to use chain rule in my equation

glass lichen
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answered that already.

alpine sable
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Ykw

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I’m skipping this question

glass lichen
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Ok

alpine sable
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bye

cunning obsidian
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Idk how to explain with a simple manner xd

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Uhm so you see that’s cos y right

glass lichen
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Eh leave it

alpine sable
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shut up mosh

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ur a horrible tutor

cunning obsidian
alpine sable
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pls dont ban me i need more help

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sorry

wary stream
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Do you know know chain rule?

cunning obsidian
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Maybe be a little more polite

alpine sable
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yes

devout totem
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You should be more involved in your learning. You just threw a question out and clearly aren’t trying to learn how to do it and just want an answer. You should also be more polite to people who are able and willing to help you…

alpine sable
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"you should be more involved in your learning" i sent an ss where im clearly needing help with the SECOND LAST question

wary stream
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You sent a screenshot with no context

alpine sable
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yea and when yall were being annoying about it i sent the whole screenshot

shut socket
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ikr

alpine sable
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i thought it would be obvious since u guys are "smart"

cunning obsidian
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= =

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Let’s get back to the q first = =:;

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So do u understand this >_>

glass lichen
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alpine sable
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why do you keep talking about it when i clearly sent it after u asked r u stupid

glass lichen
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Do you want help or no?

alpine sable
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no

glass lichen
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Ok

wary stream
glass lichen
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remember to .close the channel then

alpine sable
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🍆

wary stream
alpine sable
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.close

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slate kayak
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slate kayak
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Why is it at 90 degrees: pi/2 ?

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The circumference of the circle is 2pi right

slate kayak
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I dont get where the 2 comes in to place then when dividing pi by 2 for 90 degrees

glass lichen
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so 2pi radians=360 degrees

wary stream
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90 degrees is 1/4th of the circle

slate kayak
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Oh

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So 1/4 times 2pi

wary stream
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So 2pi/ 4

slate kayak
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Isd what they did

glass lichen
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yep

slate kayak
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Okay i get it thnxc

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alpine sable
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im stuck on ii)

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alpine sable
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ik that when the denominator = 0, then thats the vertical asymptote

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but im not sure what to do with trig functions

upbeat gorge
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if that’s the case, then you need to find the values of x between 0 and 2pi inclusive for which cos x is 0

alpine sable
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ive drawn the graph

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but havnt found the intersections

upbeat gorge
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What function did you graph?

alpine sable
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y=cos x

upbeat gorge
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ok

alpine sable
upbeat gorge
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Have you discussed trig functions before?

alpine sable
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yea

upbeat gorge
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And have you encountered the unit circle?

alpine sable
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but long time ago

alpine sable
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wait would 45 degrees be zero

upbeat gorge
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no

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Remember that cos corresponds to the x-coordinate

alpine sable
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$\frac{\pi}{4}$

upbeat gorge
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backslash frac

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alpine sable
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lol

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new to latex

ocean sealBOT
alpine sable
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$\frac{\pi}{2} , \text{and} , \frac{3\pi}{2}$

upbeat gorge
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upbeat gorge
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You are correct

alpine sable
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ah ok

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is it ok if i leave this channel open

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if i get stuck again

wary stream
alpine sable
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i need help with iv)

alpine sable
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<@&286206848099549185>

lone heartBOT
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sand pawn
alpine sable
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ye

sand pawn
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in which part you need solution?

alpine sable
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iv)

sand pawn
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cosx= 1/secx

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Using this, you can prove from the previous information to the question to the question

alpine sable
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isnt it asking for sec x =1

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oh i see

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ty

sand pawn
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alpine sable
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.reopen

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alpine sable
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for v)

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do i just say negative parabola

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at $\frac{\pi}{2} < x < \frac{3\pi}{2}$

sand pawn
alpine sable
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the other way around

sand pawn
alpine sable
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yea

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its asking for vertical asymptotes

sand pawn
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Just reading the question, I think the range is 0<=x<=2*pi

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alpine sable
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u can see it in the desmos

sand pawn
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Yep, there is

alpine sable
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alr ty for ur help

bleak ridge
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Bread

alpine sable
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yes?

bleak ridge
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We are both bread

alpine sable
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ofc

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im ur son

bleak ridge
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True

sand pawn
bleak ridge
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Uhh

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Idk I just talked

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The channel says its automatically given by a bot

alpine sable
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alr u guys can talk somewhere else

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ama close

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.close

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lucid wadi
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hi

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lucid wadi
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how would I find -146 degrees

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it doesn't land on one of the things in the unit circle

wary stream
lucid wadi
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it lands on 214 degrees in the clockwise direction

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not 100% sure but

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I think it means the angle that is the same thing as

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I forgot how to explain it but I kinda get what it means

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it's the angle that helps you locate

wary stream
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Yes, so given -146 degrees, how would you get that into a range of 0 and 360?

lucid wadi
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things that are not on the unit circle

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so I know that you go -146 degrees in the clockwise direction

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which would put you at 214 degrees

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which is in between210 and 225 degrees

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but how would I know the exact value of the radian if it's not on the unit circle

sand pawn
lucid wadi
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like -360 and 360 are coterminal angles

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yea

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but im not sure how to get the exact radian

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it's between 7pi/6 and 5pi/4

sand pawn
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A circle is equal to 2pi radians

lucid wadi
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yea

wary stream
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It doesn't want a radian answer for 214

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It just asks for a coterminal angle of -146

sand pawn
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Now subtract that and get the answer for b

wary stream
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Nothing with that question has anything to do with the unit circle

lucid wadi
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360-146?

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that's the same thing

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214

wary stream
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Yes, or -146 + 360

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Yes

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214

lucid wadi
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WAIT

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I CAN CONVERT TO RADIANS

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by pi/180

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multiply by that

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right

wary stream
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Dude, it has nothing to do with radians

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Those are two separate questions

lucid wadi
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oh

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im so stupid

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I just saw it

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it wants degrees

wary stream
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It just wants a coterminal angle for -146

lucid wadi
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214

wary stream
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Yes

lucid wadi
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I got it sorry I thought they wanted radians

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thanks a lot

sand pawn
wary stream
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Nah

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They got the second question

lucid wadi
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no I think I got the second one but actually

wary stream
lucid wadi
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is there any easier way to do the second one without looking at the unit circle?

wary stream
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Yes

lucid wadi
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cause I had to look for that one

wary stream
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Subtract multiples of 2pi

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Until you get between 0 and 2pi

lucid wadi
sand pawn
wary stream
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3pi/4

lucid wadi
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oh so basically you want to get a radian measure between 0 and 2pi

wary stream
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Yes

lucid wadi
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cause we don't care about how many rotations there were

wary stream
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Same thing with degrees

lucid wadi
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what if u do

wary stream
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If given an angle 720. the coterminal is 360

lucid wadi
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7pi/4

sand pawn
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19/4pi = four rotations - pi/4. That's basically 270 degrees

wary stream
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You just subtract multiples of 360 to get the angle between 0 and 360 degrees

lucid wadi
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so 19pi/4 -7pi/4 -7pi/4

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that's 5pi/4

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which is 225

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degrees

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right?

wary stream
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Where is 7pi/4 coming from?

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You subtract multiples of 2pi

lucid wadi
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u said 3pi/4

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how is that a multiple of 2pi?

wary stream
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I was saying you put in an answer of 3pi/4

lucid wadi
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oh mb

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ok so u subtract by multiples of 2pi

wary stream
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Yes

lucid wadi
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but what r the multiples of 2pi

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are they the 4 quadrants?

wary stream
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2pi, 4,pi, 6pi, ... 2pi * n

lucid wadi
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oh

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so in this case we have 19pi/4

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which one should I subtract it by?

wary stream
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Just keep subtracting multiples of 2pi

sand pawn
wary stream
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You can just do 19pi/4 - 2pi - 2pi... so on

lucid wadi
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ok so 19pi/4 -2pi

wary stream
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Until you get a number between 0 and 2pi

lucid wadi
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that's 19pi/4 -8pi/4

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which is 11pi/4

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then

sand pawn
lucid wadi
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11pi/4 - 8pi/4

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that's 3pi/4

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that's between 0 and 2pi

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which is at 135

wary stream
lucid wadi
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right?

wary stream
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Where you have to add/subtract multiples of 2pi to get an angle between 0 and 2pi

wary stream
lucid wadi
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thanks so much

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I get it now

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have a good day/night

wary stream
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Same thing for degrees, it's multiples of 360

lucid wadi
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ok

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so keep subtracting

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till u get between 0 and 360

wary stream
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So 360, 2 * 360, 3 * 3600, etc

sand pawn
wary stream
lucid wadi
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should I close this

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yea my teacher doesnt allow a calculatpr

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calculator

wary stream
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Hence adding/subtracting multiples of 2pi or 360

sand pawn
lucid wadi
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richmond, VA

wary stream
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Some teachers design a test that it can be done with no calculator

lucid wadi
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Khan sorry but I think most students nowadays have to learn it without a calculator

wary stream
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But if you are done, you can close it

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.close

lucid wadi
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ok thanks

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fresh parcel
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Guys i have a question

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fresh parcel
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oops

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Bob and Alice both have identical decks, 3 red 3 blue 3 green and 3 yellow. They take turns removing cards from their deck, Alice going first. What is the chance that Alice removes all three red cards before Bob removes any?

empty ridge
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What have you tried so far?

fresh parcel
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i dont really know how to approach the problem

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for previous problems ive done casework

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because it was easier

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but in this question theres too many cases

empty ridge
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Ok, do you see any way you could simplify this problem?

fresh parcel
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well all the non red cards could be grouped together

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so its 3 red and 9 non red

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for each

empty ridge
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Good. What are the cases you figured out so far?

fresh parcel
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alice can draw a red card first or she draws a non red card

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yeah but then there are too many cases to keep track of

empty ridge
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I agree. Can Alice win with just 3 cards?

fresh parcel
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yes

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if she draws all red cards

empty ridge
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The probability of that is...

fresh parcel
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1/12 x 1/11 x 1/10?

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oh wait

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no

empty ridge
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Wait! Good!

fresh parcel
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3/12 x 2/11 x 1/10

empty ridge
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But this is just alice right... what would happen to bob?

fresh parcel
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uh

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bob would draw 2 cards

empty ridge
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You are now thinking about two things happening right.. not just alice drawing reds, but bob drawing non reds

fresh parcel
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hm

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im still confused

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how does that help?

empty ridge
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Ok, have you learned about independence and joint probabilities? P(A and B) = P(a) * P(b)?

fresh parcel
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ye

empty ridge
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Since Alice's deck and Bob's deck are independent (Alice can't change the probabilities that Bob would be facing when drawing cards, right?)

fresh parcel
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yes

devout summit
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But if Alice picks a red, chances of Bob picking red decreases too

fresh parcel
empty ridge
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Yeps

devout summit
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Oh yes read just now

fresh parcel
empty ridge
devout summit
fresh parcel
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hm

empty ridge
empty ridge
fresh parcel
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alice doesnt draw 3 red cards on her first go?

empty ridge
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Or, maybe she needs 4 cards to win... what would be the probability of that?

devout summit
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You could try a tree diagram of the possibilities

fresh parcel
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4 cards would mean 3 are red and 1 is not red

empty ridge
fresh parcel
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hm okay

empty ridge
fresh parcel
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uh

empty ridge
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At least for bob, nothing changes right? But what would be different for Alice?

fresh parcel
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can i calculate it using combination?

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is it possible to do that

empty ridge
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But do you understand why?

fresh parcel
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bob's card draws are independent

empty ridge
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The combination idea is correct. It is needed because there are more than one way to get 3 reds and 1 non red.

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I was just checking if we were on the same page

fresh parcel
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so should it be 8/(11x5x9)?

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because there are 8 ways to get 3 reds and 1 non red from 12 cards

empty ridge
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I mean ~~RRRN ~~RRNR RNRR NRRR right

fresh parcel
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oh

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yeah

empty ridge
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ops, the first doesn't count (she would have won...)

fresh parcel
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oh yeah true

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so there are 3 ways she can draw 3 reds and 1 non red

empty ridge
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Good! And each has a probability equal to what?

fresh parcel
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so RRNR has a probability of 3/12 x 2/11 x 9/11 x 1/9

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oh wait they all have the same probability

empty ridge
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Great! Yes. So what is the probability of Alice wining with 4 cards?

fresh parcel
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2/11 x 9/11 x 1/9

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because the 4 and the 3 cancel out the 12 on the denominator right?

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so do i have to do the same thing all the way up to 12?

empty ridge
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No, this is just alice side of the thing right. Don't forget about Bob...

fresh parcel
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thats quite tedious

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oh yeah bob

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he needs to get 9/12 x 8/11 x 7/10 x 6/9 right?

empty ridge
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That's right (again P(A and B) = P(A) * P(B)

devout summit
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<@&268886789983436800>

empty ridge
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Dude, can you imagine the type of people that is spending their night on a saturday solvind math problems?

sly mantle
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b&

fresh parcel
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wait a second

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ima redo my math

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oh wait

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nvm

empty ridge
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That is a good idea, Check alice's numbers.

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I don't think i follow the 2/11 x 9/11 x 1/9

fresh parcel
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okay

fresh parcel
empty ridge
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I think this is the situation right? 3 * (9/12 * 3/11 * 2/10 * 1/9)

fresh parcel
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oh yeah its 10

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my bad

devout summit
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But Bob also has to consistently not pick a red right?

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For three turns

empty ridge
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Yes, this is just alice's side of the thing...

fresh parcel
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i think i calculated that already

empty ridge
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Just steping back to summarize the thing:
Alice can win with 3 cars with the probability of:
P(A winning 3 cards)*P(B not gettin red)

Alice can win with 4 cards with probability:
P(A winning with 4 cards)*P(B not getting red)

fresh parcel
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oh crap just realized

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bob only draws 3 times

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okay so the edited message should be the probability

empty ridge
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Yep, now I want you to think when our logic will break. I mean, we can repeat this same logic for Alice winning with 5 cards, then 6 ... But this logic has a limit, do you see why?

fresh parcel
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after 9

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because then bob cannot draw more than 9 cards with all of them being non red

empty ridge
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Great, you solved it!

fresh parcel
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wat

empty ridge
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You just have to compute the probabilities and you are done.

fresh parcel
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oh yeah

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alright then

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thanks for your help!

empty ridge
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It may be tedious, but at least it makes sense right?

fresh parcel
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im going to close the channel now since its solved

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yeah

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alr thanks!

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serene osprey
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how do you do this question

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serene osprey
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i tried expanding out the cos with compound angle formula

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but couldn't get anymore

thorn kindle
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Might be worth a shot to use complex exp

serene osprey
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huh?

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what?

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i don't think i have learnt that

placid zinc
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You'll want to get both with θ/2, or with θ

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I don't remember the double angle formulas off hand oof. Maybe worth a look up

serene osprey
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i wanted to try double angle

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but you need the term to be squared

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i think

placid zinc
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One thing at a time haha

serene osprey
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oh

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right

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sorry thats half angle

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hahaha

placid zinc
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The angles definitely have to match, so double angle/half angle happens somewhere

rigid smelt
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double angle for cos(2x) is cos(2x)=1-2sin^2(x)

devout summit
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Yeah and,\\$\cos(\theta)=\cos\left(2\cdot\frac{\theta}{2}\right)$

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Euclid31415

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serene osprey
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but then how do you equate this?

devout summit
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$1-2\sin^2\left(\frac{\theta}{2}\right)+3\sin\left(\frac{\theta}{2}\right)-2=0$

ocean sealBOT
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Euclid31415

devout summit
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Then you can factorise and solve for sin(theta/2) and hence, theta

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wispy olive
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Should not pi be a rational number?

In mathematics, a rational number is a number that can be expressed as the quotient or fraction p/q of two integers, a numerator p and a non-zero denominator q.

p = 22, q = 7.

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wild snow
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Just need help with part B. I haven't done anything like this before so I'm not sure how to start it. All I know is it has to do with 5! and 4! but I dont know how to set up the equation.

alpine sable
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help pls

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use an empty channel

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empathy i'll try to help later if i can, i'm helping some other people
sorry about that

wild snow
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All good, no rush ^^

fiery bronze
wild snow
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That terminology doesn't sound familiar but I may know about it

fiery bronze
wild snow
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Yes

fiery bronze
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Did you use combination or permutation?

wild snow
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Permutation

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1 x 1 x 1 x 6!

fiery bronze
wild snow
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Yes

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4 consonants and 5 vowels

fiery bronze
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having 5 vowels right?

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exactly

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So, there is no repetition of letters - neither vowels nor consonants.

wild snow
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Isnt E a repetition

fiery bronze
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Therefore, the arrangement pattern of letters shall be:

vowel-consonant-vowel-consonant-vowel-consonant-vowel-consonant-vowel.

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I'm not sure tho

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do you have the answer with u?

wild snow
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Yea I have the answer

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It says it should be 480

fiery bronze
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i think ur right. E is a repetition.

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i would wait for somebody

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what grade are you?

wild snow
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Year 11 maths methods

fiery bronze
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I'm in year 11 as well mate

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doing the same thing as u

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we are on the same boat my brother

grizzled path
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since there are 3 E's there are 3! ways to rearrange them so that the word stays the same

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which means that the 2880 overcounts each word 3! = 6 times

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so 2880/6 = 480 distinct words

fiery bronze
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@grizzled path is right

wild snow
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Oh

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Thank you @grizzled path

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thank you @grizzled path

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your welcome

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@grizzled path what grade are you in?

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Is the answer 17/7 hrs?

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he spent 3/7 of his time grocery shopping and the remaining 2 hours buying furtniture right?

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remaining 2 hours must therefore equale to 4/7 as both added together should equal 7/7

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we then add 4/7 (2) and 3/7 (1.5) which is as you said 3.5hrs

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I am searching for the rate at which the light on the car travels along the wall.

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I believe that would result in me having 2Πr as my x and 70ft as my y with 30 degrees as my theta

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This should be my equation if I'm not mistaken to find z

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Calc 1 Related Rate problem

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Would appreciate any help

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<@&286206848099549185> Would really appreciate any help on this related rates problem. Need some guidance.

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Firstly you'll need to come up with an equation that relates the angle and position, then differentiate both sides with respect to time.

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@harsh belfry

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Any chance you could help me out in setting that up?

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Start by setting up the equation relating angle and position

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you sort of have it, just need to not put in the specific angle

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guys anybody help

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ok sry

harsh belfry
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This should work right? @woeful pulsar

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you have to differentiate both sides with respect to time

harsh belfry
woeful pulsar
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what would the expression be? remember to use chain rule

harsh belfry
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I was originally thinking this

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but perhaps I need to re-do it

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An 8 × 12 board is divided into colorless unit squares. Determine the minimum number of squares that need to be painted black such that each 3× 3square contains at least two red squares?

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what is the ans

harsh belfry
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ok

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@woeful pulsar This should be it

woeful pulsar
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yeah looks like it

harsh belfry
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Now I would plug in my theta?

woeful pulsar
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now what information do you have to plug in?

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yeah theta

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and?

harsh belfry
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I would guess theta/dt

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but not sure what that is

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hmm

woeful pulsar
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read the question, is the information there for d theta/dt?

harsh belfry
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dtheta is the revolving rate of the light right?

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2pir's derivative?

harsh belfry
woeful pulsar
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there is information about d theta/dt

harsh belfry
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Thats what we're solving for.

woeful pulsar
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what we are looking for is dx/dt

harsh belfry
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2pi38

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is the only thing I can think of

harsh belfry
woeful pulsar
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yeah 76pi radians per minute

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( and yeah, we do things with radians)

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now can you solve for dx/dt?

harsh belfry
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I believe I can

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give me a moment

woeful pulsar
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be careful about your units

harsh belfry
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or 22284.3639

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Which is the rate at which the light travels along the wall in ft/sec

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That should be correct @woeful pulsar

woeful pulsar
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for which angle?

harsh belfry
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angle of 30 degrees

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ah I see

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will try punching in the answer to see if I'm right

woeful pulsar
harsh belfry
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😅

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OH

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this is in revolutions per minute

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its asking for seconds

woeful pulsar
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yeah that looks reasonable

harsh belfry
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very good this should be my answe

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Thanks a bunch @woeful pulsar really!

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I guess you can .close now lol

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Need help with confirming if I got this matrices equation correct

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<@&286206848099549185>

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I suggest you to organize this solution better and do the math with no rush (slow is smooth and smooth is fast...)

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Actually when you said

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Nvm now Ik what u mean

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I don't know what you are trying to solve there... (I had to struggle just to understand that there is system of equations somewhere there, some determinants everywhere and some cryptic variables D, Dx,Dy,Dz ... to help you and the person that will have to read this, I suggest you write some small notes on the solution... Things like: I have to find the solution to ... write the system of equations.
Then, to solve this I will apply this method that uses some determinants ... Write D, then Dx, then Dy, then Dz
Finally, using the determinants, x is ... , y is ... and z is ...

What I mean by slow is smooth and smooth is fast is that It seems that you know what you are doing, but there are some determinants that are not computed correctly. For instance, det((-4,-1),(6,5)) isn't -26

alpine sable
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Yeah Ik

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I got -14

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Nvm

empty ridge
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My bad, check D

alpine sable
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Now Ik what I did wrong

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Yeah what I did was unorganized

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But Ik what I did wrong now

empty ridge
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The value of D is not -480... where are you calculating D? I can't find it on the solution.

alpine sable
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Yeah the first part I didn’t calculate it correctly

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I did 20+-6

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It was supposed to be 3(-20- -6)

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Which would be 3 (-14) is -42

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mhm

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year 2 for me

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subjects taken?

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Hi, I have been reading a book about algorithms and realized I also need an understanding of maths to be able to solve that algorithms, can you recommend me a book that emphasizes the math needed for solving programming algorithms?

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super quick question

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if a number is not prime does that mean its composite?

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it does right?

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Shouldn't be the answer 8 ?

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no I see the answer there, what values do you get for each part?

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√3, 2 and 1/√3

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3+4+1

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correct with the first line

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but cosec isn't squared :v

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studying for trig test, could someone walk me though how to solve this?

dense tangle
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Yes I do

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SOH CAH TOA

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And the reciprocals

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Like y/r x/r and y/x

placid zinc
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Consider putting this line on the unit circle. Can you point out what the sides need to be?

dense tangle
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Well would it be on the y axis since it’s y = 3x?

placid zinc
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"it"?

dense tangle
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Wait I’m sorry

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Ok my bad so if I put 3x on the line what would I do from there?

placid zinc
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"Put 3x on the line" is a very weird way to say it, haha.
So you want to graph y = 3x.

dense tangle
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I know I’m sorry

placid zinc
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That should be no problem. If you are having trouble with graphing lines, check up a YouTube

dense tangle
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Ok so once you plot that what do you do from there?

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Do you just find where it is on the unit circle?

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So as long as it’s more than 0?

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Ah gotcha

placid zinc
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That's a better picture. You want to find the coordinates of that intersection

dense tangle
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Oh ok

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So then the coordinate would be(1, 3) and you would be able find the trig functions cuz your given x and y?

placid zinc
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The point is not (1,3) haha

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However, you have noticed that the y-value will be 3 times larger than the x-value

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Actually, fair. You're right you can construct any triangle

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So yeah a triangle with base 1, and height 3 works

dense tangle
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Alright gotcha

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So just plot that and then find a point that’s more or equal to 0

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Just making sure so I know how to do it by myself haha

alpine sable
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How do you differentiate 12 / (x - 3)

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?

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Hm, we didn't get that yet

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wait

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can i have help please?

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i need help

wary stream
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no

wary stream
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You can Google the definitions

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Do you know what domain means?

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Or rate of change?

rustic delta
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The domain of a function is the set of all possible inputs for the function

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its not asking for the definitions

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hello?

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How do you differentiate ((x-3)(x-1)) / x-1

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?

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Oh, I didn't think it was occupied

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But it's not a right triangle?

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what is this?

next chasm
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smh

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sqrt(40)+sqrt(90)

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2sqrt(10)+3sqrt(10)

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5sqrt(10)

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5 is your answer

alpine sable
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these questions blow my mind lol

next chasm
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bruh

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what grade you in

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just google square roots

alpine sable
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i think in america its 12

next chasm
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see what you can find

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and study

alpine sable
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i have and i dont fuckin get it

cobalt palm
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Mind if I chip in? You're just multiplying it out

next chasm
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like imagine 4

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it is 2 times 2 right

alpine sable
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yes

next chasm
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so imagine a number x

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the square root of it

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is a positive number

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(sometimes negative works, but positive is the correct way)

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that if you multiply it

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by the same number

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you get x

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so

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some examsples

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sqrt(1)=1

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since 1*1 is 1

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sqrt(4) is 2

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since 2*2 is 4

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sqrt(9) is 3

alpine sable
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yes

next chasm
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since 3*3 is 9

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and so on

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sqrt(100) is 10 since 10* 10 is 100

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but some numbers

alpine sable
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yes

next chasm
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have irrational square roots

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for example

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square root of 2

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or square root of 10

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theres no specific number to find their square root

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so basically square root of prime numbers are irrational, and some other numbers square roots are irational as well

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so here

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you have square root of 5 times (square root of 8 + square root of 18)

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since its in () try opening it u

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p

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we get square root of 5 times square root of 8 + square root of 5 times square root of 18

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and when we have

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square root of a times square root of b, we can multiply to get square root of ab

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so her

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e

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we are going to use that

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square root of 40 + square root of 90

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so now we can write 40 as in 4* 10

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so square root of (410) + square root of (910)

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sorry i meant to put * 2 times

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discord messes it up

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basically

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square root of 4 is 2

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9 is 3

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so we can write 2 sqrt(10) + 3sqrt(10)

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add it up

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5 sqrt(10)

alpine sable
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i hate to be that guy

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but im confused

next chasm
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hm ok

cobalt palm
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mind if I have a go?

next chasm
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fosho

alpine sable
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i know the square roots part

cobalt palm
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@alpine sable ok so to start off simple

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do you know how to expand out

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like, multiply a(b + c)

next chasm
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mans 12 grade

cobalt palm
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i'm just verifying foundation before i continue

next chasm
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lmao

alpine sable
cobalt palm
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and idk what 12 grade means lol

next chasm
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wym

cobalt palm
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ok so cigar

next chasm
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anyways

alpine sable
cobalt palm
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let's say you have 5(4 + 1)

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how would you do this

alpine sable
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20+5

cobalt palm
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right cool

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which is 25

next chasm
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im not saying nun, im saying you would know expanding

cobalt palm
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okay so with square roots, it's exactly the same

cobalt palm
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multiply it out before anything

next chasm
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yes

alpine sable
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not with square roots

cobalt palm
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root 5 x root 8 = root 40

next chasm
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anyways

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listen to dyre

cobalt palm
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root 5 x root 18 = root 90

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you now have root 40 + root 90

next chasm
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so its easier

alpine sable
cobalt palm
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well, either way round works

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i'm just trying to explain it level by level

alpine sable
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yeah, thank you

cobalt palm
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so root 40 is the same as root 20 x root 2

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equally it is the same as root 10 x root 4

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equally it is the same as root 8 x root 5

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which would be written as root and then 8 x 5 inside of it

next chasm
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root 80 x root 1/2 works too

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basically anything

cobalt palm
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yeah

next chasm
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that multypling gives 40

cobalt palm
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now, of all of those roots i have shown, which do you think simplify into a rational number

next chasm
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rational

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like 1 2 3 4

cobalt palm
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root 10, 4, 20, 2, 8 or 5

alpine sable
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4

next chasm
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correct

cobalt palm
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cool because that makes two

next chasm
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right

alpine sable
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yes

cobalt palm
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so now you know it's root 10 x root 4

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this can now be turned into 2 root 10

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because instead of it being root 4 x root 10, it's 2 x root 10

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now to add them, you need 90 to also have a root of 10

next chasm
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and what about 90 45 30 15 9 6 3 2

cobalt palm
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so you turn 90 into root 9 and root 10

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conveniently, root 9 also simplifies down into 3

alpine sable
cobalt palm
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as such, you have 3 root 10 + 2 root 10

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do we agree

next chasm
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correct

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i agree

alpine sable
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ok

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yes

cobalt palm
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now do you know what you can do with that

next chasm
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so add up

alpine sable
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make it 5 root 1

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10

next chasm
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since it wants some form of

cobalt palm
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aye, because both numbers inside the root are the same you can add

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nope,

next chasm
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a root 10

cobalt palm
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sorry i meant yes

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i'm tired

next chasm
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lmao

cobalt palm
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anything there you don't understand @alpine sable

alpine sable
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no

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you explained it well

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im gonna be honest

next chasm
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so whats root 25

alpine sable
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im here because i couldnt find a way to put this in a calculator

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tbh

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but thanks alot

next chasm
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whats root 25

alpine sable
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5

cobalt palm
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absolutely no worries mate

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oh also just for reference

alpine sable
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i have never revised maths, neither anything else

cobalt palm
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these are called surds so you can cross reference

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surds = roots which don't become rational

alpine sable
cobalt palm
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yea

alpine sable
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been learning it for a while

cobalt palm
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alright yeah

alpine sable
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in the beginning i understood

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but now i dont

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so i just put shit in the calculator

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and write down what my teacher writes

cobalt palm
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lol

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i know the feeling mate, but yeah, if you have the time always look for help

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anyway, was great meeting you man

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have a good one

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thanks

cobalt palm
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👍

next chasm
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🍪

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heres a cookie

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for your efforts

alpine sable
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thanks

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this is the next hurdle

next chasm
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now

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you know this formula

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(a+b)^2

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=

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a^2+2ab+b^2

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if not i can explain

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so imagine you are multyplying some number by itself

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and lets say a+b=n right

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for the moment

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so (a+b)^2= (a+b) * (a+b)

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which equals

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(a+b) * n

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so when we expand

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we get an+bn

cinder sorrel
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Tell it to Me pls

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but we said that n is equal to a+b

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so an+bn is equal to

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a(a+b) + b(a+b)

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so when we expand

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we get the following

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a^2 + ab + ab +b^2

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which becomes a^2+2ab + b^2

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so now we have a =1

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b= root 3

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so their (a+b)^2 = 1 + 3 + 2 root 3

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which equals to 4 + 2 root 3

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so a

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is equal to 4

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b is 2

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since we have 4+ 2root3= a + b root 3

raw shard
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remember that (a+b)^2 = a^2+2ab+b^2 @alpine sable

next chasm
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yeah

rancid blade
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you need not remember this

raw shard
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a = 1 and b = sqrt3

next chasm
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imma write some formulas to remember

rancid blade
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you don't need to memorize

raw shard
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yes you do

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  1. (a+b)^2= a^2+2ab+b^2
  2. (a-b)^2= a^2-2ab+b^2
  3. (a+b)^3= a^3+3a^2b+3ab^2+b^3
  4. (a-b)^3= a^3-3a^2b+3ab^2-b^3
  5. a^3+b^3=(a+b)(a^2-ab+b^2)
  6. a^3-b^3=(a-b)(a^2+ab+b^2)
  7. a^2-b^2=(a+b)(a-b)
rancid blade
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just apply the definition of the square

alpine sable
rancid blade
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ignore it

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you don't need it here

raw shard
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unless you wanna derive literally everything that would have just been easier to remember

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yes you do

ocean sealBOT
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grist bundle

rancid blade
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then FOIL multiply as usual

raw shard
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which gives what i already said

rancid blade
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yes

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no need to memorize now though

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especially if the problem is conceptually difficult to begin with

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it's better to work through it using the tools we already have, if possible

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tricks can come after

rancid blade
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don't

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just remember binomial theorem when you get to that point

raw shard
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yeah don’t remember all those

alpine sable
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i have no fuckin idea what any of that means tbh

rancid blade
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it subsumes all of the ones davo mentioned

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ignore it

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it's not of use to you now

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do you know how to carry out the multiplication here?

next chasm
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yeah not now

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just like over time

ocean sealBOT
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grist bundle

next chasm
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its useful to know

alpine sable
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to me its just a bunch of letters

rancid blade
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ok what's 2+7

alpine sable
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