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royal crane
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sorry

winter rock
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np,

spark epoch
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questions*

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ill help if i can

royal crane
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13a?

winter rock
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@spark epoch thx

royal crane
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and 23?

alpine nacelle
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Just post what you need help with

royal crane
alpine nacelle
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A quadratic equation (which has roots) is a(x-r1)(x-r2) = 0 with r1 and r2 the roots

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Take a = 1 or whatever a and you get one

royal crane
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I keep getting this

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how is that wrong?

alpine nacelle
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Check the signs

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It shoud be -sqrt(3)x

royal crane
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ur right

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omg im so dumb

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wait

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so its minus the sum of the roots?

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or did i just add wrong

alpine nacelle
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When your polynomial is ax²+bx+c, the sum of your roots is -b/a

royal crane
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OOOO

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i forgot the first negative

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oops

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what abt this one?

alpine nacelle
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You need to find the coordinates of A and B

royal crane
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how do i do that?

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i forgot its been a while

alpine nacelle
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-x²+9 = 2x²-3
4 = x²

royal crane
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x^2=2

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isnt that for straight lines not parabolas? or am i trippin?

alpine nacelle
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x² = +-2

royal crane
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right

alpine nacelle
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That's the two possible abscissas

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A has one, B the other

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Then find their ordinates

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And you'll get the length

gray isle
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it's how you find intersections in general

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the method isn't only for straight lines

royal crane
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how do i find the absissa and ordinate again?

alpine nacelle
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You mean, you want I rewrite what we did, or you mean the general case ?

royal crane
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general case

alpine nacelle
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If a point is a point of intersection between two curves, it means its coordinates satisfies both equations

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So y = your first expression depending on x = your second one

royal crane
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sorry, i completely forgot, what do i do after i get x=2,-2

royal crane
alpine nacelle
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$x = \pm 2$

ocean sealBOT
alpine nacelle
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let's say A has the smallest abscissa between both as it doesn't change the length, now you know that A(-2, y) and B(2, y')

royal crane
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k...

alpine nacelle
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and because they are on the curves, y = y' = 5 here

royal crane
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what does y' mean? i mean like, the y with the '

alpine nacelle
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because if the functions were different y and y' could be different

gray isle
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don't use y' here. the notation is interpreted as something else

royal crane
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o ok

alpine nacelle
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oh

gray isle
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use y_1 and y_2 to distinguish your two y values

alpine nacelle
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ok

royal crane
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I actually got it. ty @alpine nacelle

astral spoke
charred dagger
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y=180-(4x+30)

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8z-2=180-(8x-50)

astral spoke
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thanks

charred dagger
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All goof

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*good

stone jay
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4x+30 = 8x-50
x = 20

astral spoke
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uh

charred dagger
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Just form a whole bunch of equations and do simultaneous

astral spoke
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and also

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you did it wrong too

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x would equal -20

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with ur equation

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and thats just gonna lead to a negative degree of an angle anywhere i would substitute that

stone jay
astral spoke
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na na

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i don tthink it is

charred dagger
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No you cant solve mine atm as i have 3 variables

astral spoke
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hm

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thats what i tried first

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maby i was dumb and i just did it wrong

charred dagger
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Emri i hate to break it to you but its wrong

astral spoke
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hes wrong

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or ur wrong?

charred dagger
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No i've done these things a million times XD

stone jay
astral spoke
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HES RIGHT

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i just did it myself

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i accidentally put the equation on one side somehow

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idk how i did that

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somethings wrong with my brain

charred dagger
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The first equations formed by corresponding angles then angles on a straight line

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Ok all good 🙂

stone jay
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wanna solve other part?

astral spoke
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wait

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yea

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uh

charred dagger
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Btw how do you get 4x + 30 = 8x - 50...

astral spoke
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cus its like

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alternate exterior angles i think

astral spoke
stone jay
charred dagger
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You dont know theyre parrallel...

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Unless its in the question

astral spoke
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wait

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i added 2 to both sides and i got 82

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instead of 72

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tf is wrong with me???

stone jay
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what grade question is this btw

astral spoke
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well

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its honors geometry in high school

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it can be taken in more than one grade

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freshman or sophmore year

orchid python
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can anybody expain why in the third line its 2.d/dx(x)?

stone jay
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i can but not in english lol

astral spoke
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which language

stone jay
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turkish

astral spoke
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merhaba

stone jay
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i dont speak english very well

stone jay
astral spoke
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or

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do u say salam?

stone jay
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selam actualy

warped grotto
stone jay
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with an e

astral spoke
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ok

warped grotto
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And they haven’t simplified

stone jay
warped grotto
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👍

wintry vortex
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for this rule, would only m be negative?

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or would i distribute the negative?

dense trail
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m=-3

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so only m is negative

wintry vortex
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ok ty!

sour flicker
waxen lichen
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Hi can someone help me with these 2? I have to find the first 5 terms

sonic wyvern
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whats going on here

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ive looked this question up in multiple places and they're all solving it like me
where u = F/mg
and i use the x component of force, which is Fcos(theta)

dense trail
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is the pulling force of 72N the horizontal component or just the entire force at the 32 degrees angle

sonic wyvern
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it just says pulling with a force of 72N

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at an angle of 32 deg

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and its wrong even if i use 72 as my force

dense trail
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well if 72 is already the horizontal force, then using F=ma, he should be walking at 72/60 m/s

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otherwise, find the horizontal component using trig

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72cos(32)/60

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wait wat

sonic wyvern
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?

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speed doesnt matter

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its only mentioned to clarify that this acceleration is 0

dense trail
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wut this question makes no sense

sonic wyvern
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y

dense trail
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wait no dont worry

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so yeah like you said accelration is 0

sonic wyvern
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yes

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so the force of the tension in the rope - the force of friction = 0

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so F = u*mg

dense trail
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which is roughly 1.01765

sonic wyvern
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thats F/m

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not F/mg

sonic wyvern
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force of friction = u * n

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where n is the normal force

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n = mg

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so force of friction = u*mg

dense trail
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oh wait its asking for the coefficient

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thought it said the force of friction

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nvm

summer dragon
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this stuff you guys are on look insane wtf

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im literally trying to calculate the volume off a shape rn xd

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like bro

sonic wyvern
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just multiply..

summer dragon
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this is the stuff im stuck on

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so literally 1500 x 1000 x 200

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?

sonic wyvern
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yeah

summer dragon
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maths is really not my strongpoint 😅

dense trail
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wait is μ = f÷N the coefficient of friction

sonic wyvern
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yes

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and N = mg

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thus u = F/mg

dense trail
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ok

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so we need to find f first then?

sonic wyvern
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it told us he's pulling with 72N at 32 deg angle

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i solve for x component of force with 72N * cos(32)

dense trail
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mhm

sonic wyvern
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its wrong

dense trail
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why?

sonic wyvern
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the website does not tell me why its wrong

dense trail
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72N*cos(32) force of friction right

sonic wyvern
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no

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that gives you the x component of the tension in the rope

summer dragon
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hope this kinda maths is allowed in here but could someone help me with this 😅

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first one i got 300,000,000

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what does the 3 mean? cubed?

dense trail
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yeah

summer dragon
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what does that represent?

sonic wyvern
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cm *cm *cm

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= cm^3

dense trail
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since its volume

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area = cm^2
volume = cm^3

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i mean it doesnt have to be cm, it could be any other unit

summer dragon
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how do i work b out? my guess would be divide maybe?

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im awful at maths but trying my best to improve a little 😅

dense trail
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yeah divide

summer dragon
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1000 by 300,000,000?

dense trail
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300,000,000/1000

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you are trying to find the number of 1litre cubes you can fit in the swimming pool

dense trail
sonic wyvern
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kinetic friction is u * n

summer dragon
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ah i see, thanks for the help, sure that sortve stuff is super basic to you guys 🤣

sonic wyvern
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where n = mg

dense trail
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no im talking about F

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Ff

sonic wyvern
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the force of friction

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is exactly what i just said

wheat anchor
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@buoyant leaf

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you there bro?

dense trail
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Ff = u*mg??

sonic wyvern
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yes

dense trail
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then how do you find u

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you need Ff to find u

sonic wyvern
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because acceleration is zero

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and the sum of forces in the x = mass * acceleration in the x

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the sum of forces is tension - frictional force

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so tension = frictional force

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tension = u * n

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tension = u * mg

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u = tension/mg

dense trail
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ok i dont get

clever hare
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how do i do i find the x intercepts from a question like this

dense trail
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f(x)=0

clever hare
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so then i just solve for x?

dense trail
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yea

clever hare
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ah ok

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wow i thought it would be harder lmao

dense trail
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well x intercept is just when y=0

toxic radish
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anyone got a clue how to do this?

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How to do X-axis reflection?

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and vertical stretch?

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I have an idea of a vertical stretch by doing

g(x) = 3*(3^x) + 1

I also know the vertical translation, but which part would I have a negative sign on?

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(The negative sign is for x-axis translation)

placid zinc
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Reflecting vertically:
-3(3^x) + 1

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@toxic radish

dense trail
sonic wyvern
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bro it shows my answer

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its wrong

dense trail
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huh

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.1110483366

toxic radish
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so I would just add negative to everything right

placid zinc
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Is that what I did?

orchid python
toxic radish
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just the -3

orchid python
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can anybody help me with this

toxic radish
alpine sable
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Hey i have a question

orchid python
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ok

toxic radish
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try in like 3 mins

alpine sable
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i dont know if its solvable

toxic radish
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my problem should be cleared by then

alpine sable
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Oh do i need to use a new channel?

toxic radish
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so just the vertical stretch would be reflected?

placid zinc
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Yes

supple prairie
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The perimeter of a rectangular city park is 90 m, with an area of ​​450 m2. The long part of the garden will be planted with lilies every 1 m and the wide part will be planted with garden lights every 3 m. If the price of 1 lily seed is 2500, and the price of 1 garden lamp is 20,000, then the cost that needs to be spent is...
can someone help

alpine sable
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please

hard ether
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What does the dot thingy mean

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In maths

alpine sable
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everyone is dead

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when doing calculus and encountering sinusoidal functions, when is it appropriate to use Euler's

alpine sable
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help please

fast scaffold
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Believe it is a quadratic. This is simply a question of knowledge/terminology. Quadratics have greatest term x^2

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It a=0, the x^2 term disappears, and is just a linear equation

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*if

torn crescent
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help please

quartz osprey
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why is the right side limit 5?

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it ggoes from 6-3

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6-1 5-2 4-3 3-4

verbal cargo
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help, please

shadow edge
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@quartz osprey Since the function is not continuous in x=3, you must evaluate from both sides of 3. If you approach from the left, it is 3 but if you approach from the right it is 5

alpine sable
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who is able to help me understand hicksion and marshiallion demand? I am taking intermediate microeconomics

quartz osprey
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so if it were to stock at 3

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it would be 3 right

solemn phoenix
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I cant divide cause i skipped math class when i was grade 4 🤧

shadow edge
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exactly cuz at x=3 the point is full.

solemn phoenix
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I cant divide cause i skipped math class when i was grade 4 🤧

tranquil tulip
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is there a faster way to do E instead of drawing a tree

fast scaffold
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Ahh there's a formula

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I think

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This is just binomial probability

tranquil tulip
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what is the formula?

fast scaffold
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P(X=x) = p^x * (1-p)^n-x * (xCn)

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Basically, a bit of an explanation

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For n trials of a Bernoulli experiment (a trial with 2 results, success or failure), p is probability of success

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x is the number of "successes", in this case heads

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and xCn is the binomial coefficient

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That's the idea at least

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R u familiar with the xCn notation?

tranquil tulip
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No i’m in geometry rn 😭

fast scaffold
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Oof

past prawn
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hi, can someone point me to the derivation of an infinite sum from k to infinity for k x a^k?

fast scaffold
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Doesn't that diverge unless |a|<1?

glass lichen
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yes

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well it isnt geometric I dont think

fast scaffold
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Yeah

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and normally u start at 1

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like k-=1

topaz canopy
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I'm using the method of elimination but I cannot find my mistake

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The outcome is wrong I just can't find my mistake

reef shoal
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my dumbass forgor what we did in class and now i wanna kms i require assistance

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ok so i know you gotta do some wacky shit in the first half

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find the end by them gfiving you the midpoint and one of the two end points

past prawn
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my bad, I made a few typos in that last question: k from 1 to infinity, for |a|<1

reef shoal
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nvm im sayin all this shit wrong

topaz canopy
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From home base to second base is 180 feet

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From home base to pitching mound is 45 feet

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To get to second base you need to run 90 feet to first base from home

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And 90 more feet from fist to second

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Which is 180 feet

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To get to the pitching mound from home you need to run 3 tiles diagonally

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And since 6 tiles is 90 feet

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3 tiles is 45 feet

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That's about it

pulsar cloud
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I have to explain why we are using a monte carlo approach for permutation methods
Exact permutation methods are much more computationally expensive while only giving marginially more information about the true distribution. In other words often times the total number of permutations will be massive and computating it could be potentially intractable for example if we have 1000 objects and we want all permutations of size 10 we would need to calculate over 9 e 29. However, we can randomly generate and sample from the all the permutations relying on the law of large numbers. In other words, we would expect to draw more results from the permutations that are more likely from the true distribution on average thus creating a good approximate of the true distribution.
does that seem correct?

ivory ivy
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im so confused

orchid python
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hey

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can anybody help me

alpine sable
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Cant do 4,6,9 question im kinda stuck and due date is in like 4 hours so any help would be very appreciated

topaz canopy
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so nobody in this server could help you unfortunatly

alpine sable
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yeah but like wtf should i do tried watching a video but kinda confusing

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helloooo

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cann i askk

quaint thistle
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anyone speak indonesia?

alpine sable
alpine sable
quaint thistle
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A student follows the following rules. correct answer
scored 2, incorrect answers were given a score of -1, and for questions that were not answered were given a value of 0.
Of the 50 questions given, student A can answer 40 questions correctly and 3 questions not
answered. What is the value obtained?

topaz canopy
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same with the first image you sent

alpine sable
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just use a ruler and see the length and write it down?

topaz canopy
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yea from letter from letter, and in the first image it is already sort of giving you the answer

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because it is already telling you the measurements for 6

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and maybe 9 but i cant see

alpine sable
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Is there a ruler app i can use on my phone?

topaz canopy
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they are measurments

topaz canopy
lapis valley
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what symbol is this, sorry for disturbing, kinda need it urgently

alpine sable
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not at the moment

quaint thistle
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help

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me

topaz canopy
topaz canopy
quaint thistle
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ok

topaz canopy
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i was busy

quaint thistle
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A student follows the following rules. correct answer
scored 2, incorrect answers were given a score of -1, and for questions that were not answered were given a value of 0.
Of the 50 questions given, student A can answer 40 questions correctly and 3 questions not
answered. What is the value obtained?

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here

alpine sable
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thankuu for a while ago <33

topaz canopy
slate heron
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Prealgebra

tacit breach
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This is kindergarten shit

quaint thistle
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me?

slate heron
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Yes

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Lol

tacit breach
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No you Louis

slate heron
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You have to practice and pay attention in class more..

tacit breach
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Then y you asking questions here bro

topaz canopy
tacit breach
slate heron
topaz canopy
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so 73 points

wary stream
topaz canopy
slate heron
tacit breach
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Expression

topaz canopy
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bad habit

fair osprey
tacit breach
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So basically you do

topaz canopy
minor junco
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hello

topaz canopy
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you would know if you had a ruler

alpine sable
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ill look for a ruler

topaz canopy
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ight

alpine sable
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and then use it between the two words they gave me?

topaz canopy
alpine sable
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wait

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ill send the example they gave me

topaz canopy
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ok

alpine sable
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it doesnt make sense for me

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sending

wary stream
topaz canopy
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It is higher up in the chat

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the images

wary stream
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That's buried

alpine sable
wary stream
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What was the question?

alpine sable
alpine sable
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I didn’t get the example

wary stream
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Can you repost it?

alpine sable
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Just click on the reply

topaz canopy
wary stream
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,rotate

topaz canopy
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there they are

ocean sealBOT
wary stream
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There

alpine sable
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Yeah

wary stream
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That's the orientation I wanted

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You don't need a ruler

alpine sable
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What do I need to do?

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The example doesn’t make sense to me

quaint thistle
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Mother is a towel trader in a traditional market near her house.
Currently, the supply of towels is low. Mrs. Wati will buy towels at the market
big. He visited three shops that offered towels at the following prices.
Blessing Shop = IDR 300,000 per 10 towels
Gemilang Store = IDR 210,000,- per 6 towels
Toko Maju = IDR 96,000 per 3 towels
Mrs. Wati ensured that the towels offered by the three shops had brands,
same size and material. In which shop should Mrs. Wati buy towels so that
make the biggest profit?

wary stream
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You know the length of XZ, and because it states that WX = XY = YZ that means point Y is the midpoint of XZ, meaning that it splits that segment equally into two part

quaint thistle
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this is indonesia but i translate to english

wary stream
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Like stop interrupting

quaint thistle
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i want to ask

alpine sable
wary stream
alpine sable
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this hw is like due in 2 hours

quaint thistle
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ok

wary stream
alpine sable
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im not that good at math i dont understand very sorry man

wary stream
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Do you understand that XY = YZ?

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And that you are given the value of XZ?

alpine sable
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no sadly

wary stream
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XY = YZ

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And XZ = 20

alpine sable
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ohh

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That

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okayyy

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i just saw it

wary stream
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Now as I was saying, because they give the length of XZ and point Y is in that segment, and knowing that XY = XZ, that means they are equal parts

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And there are 2 segments that make up XZ, XY and XZ

alpine sable
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yeah

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kind of understanding

wary stream
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So if they are equal that means if you do XZ/2, that gives the value of each segment

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Since they are the same length

alpine sable
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yeah

wary stream
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So then was does XY and XZ equal to?

alpine sable
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yo

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someone pls

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real quick

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1 more ixl question

alpine sable
wary stream
alpine sable
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The number w is rational and negative. Which statement about
7
w
is true?

is it rational . irrational, or depending on the value of w

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its 1 quick answer

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real quick

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@alpine sable there is #help-1 you can send ur question too

wary stream
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XZ/2 is the length of XY and XZ individually

alpine sable
wary stream
alpine sable
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is that even allowed in the server?

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gore

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its a cartoon calm down buddy

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it aint real

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that doesnt really matter

lime mulch
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would the gcf of 36b^2 and 30b just be 6 or 6b

alpine sable
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oh you have a sans profile your asking 7th grade math questions my bad

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but that was so unnecessary to send

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your a little kids its ok sorry buddy

alpine sable
eternal arrow
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Yo can one of y’all help me with a couple hw questions?

wary stream
eternal arrow
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il send in a sec. lol im playing smash

alpine sable
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help

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I don’t understand

eternal arrow
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C

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@alpine sable

alpine sable
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How

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Nvm I get it

alpine sable
wary stream
alpine sable
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:(

eternal arrow
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Ok lol

alpine sable
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not the right place to send it

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are you like 10?

alpine sable
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are u retarded?

hard ether
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Toxicity

alpine sable
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invincible typo

hard ether
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What does the dot mean

eternal arrow
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What unit is this?

alpine sable
eternal arrow
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@hard ether

hard ether
wary stream
hard ether
eternal arrow
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ye like in marh

wary stream
hard ether
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I’m not sure, I was just reading some science papers when I came across this formula

eternal arrow
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Like is this physics,

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oh ok lol

hard ether
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Astrophysics

eternal arrow
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I was gonna say

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To be honest with you I Havnt studied astro physucs

hard ether
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Well I don’t know the dot sign

wary stream
eternal arrow
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You should search it up

alpine sable
alpine sable
eternal arrow
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Me?

hard ether
alpine sable
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okay? doesn't fucking matter. you probably cant go outside or have any irl friends so don't take to me.

eternal arrow
hard ether
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I see

eternal arrow
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Can y’all help me with this question?

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lol its from my one note questions

slate heron
hard ether
wary stream
eternal arrow
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but what formula do I use?

hard ether
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I’m not sure

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Do you know how to expand

eternal arrow
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i do but theres a formula for this

hard ether
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Oh

eternal arrow
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il ask in the other questions tab

slate heron
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@eternal arrow

eternal arrow
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Your funny

slate heron
hard ether
alpine sable
slate heron
hard ether
hard ether
eternal arrow
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no your right

alpine sable
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you are pathetic

alpine sable
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do it

eternal arrow
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Bro this is a math discord

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Chill

hard ether
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And the paper I got the formula from is astrophysics

alpine sable
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get the mods on him not me

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ur the one talking sh*t

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hes calling me retarded and stuff

eternal steppe
hard ether
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I’m just confused

alpine sable
#

and ur sending cartoon gore wtf

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:(

slate heron
wary stream
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The paper was astronomy related

slate heron
hard ether
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And I don’t know what that means

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And why it’s used

alpine sable
#

take it on vc not on a god damn math server

alpine sable
#

dm call

hard ether
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Seriously

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Someone

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Help me

alpine sable
#

bro

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search it up

slate heron
hard ether
#

I did but now I’m confused

slate heron
#

like a screenshot of more things

wary stream
charred flint
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@hard ether it means of the sun

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Mdot is mass of the sun

slate heron
#

ohhh

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makes sense now

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nvm everything i said

hard ether
wary stream
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L is luminosity and M is mass

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And the circle with dot is the sun

hard ether
#

So m with the dot is the mass of the sun?

wary stream
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Yes

hard ether
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Ok thanks

alpine sable
#

I have a question: For what a/b would f(x) = x^a/b have where f'(-1)<0 and f'(0) does not exist where 0<a,b< 10, a and b are integers, and a ≠ b.

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I did this and got an answer not even there

hoary copper
# alpine sable

It should be D,

d/dx(x^2 - x) = 2x - 1
Sub 4, and you get 7

alpine sable
#

I got 8

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I did it a diff way

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You did it wrong then

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Really? Never knew that

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Show how you did it

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So we can tell you what you did wrong

charred flint
#

@alpine sable just when a/b is an integer right?

alpine sable
#

Yes

charred flint
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I mean the answer

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like a/b=n

alpine sable
#

It doesn't matter if a/b = n. Just a and b have to be integers themselves

charred flint
#

otherwise the (-1)^a/b is weird

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yea I'm claiming an answer

alpine sable
#

I meant to send this

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What did I do wrong

hoary copper
# alpine sable

Do not do average rate of change, its asking for the instantaneous rate of change

alpine sable
#

That’s not the average rate of change

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it’s the average rate of change for the tangent line which is the instantaneous

hoary copper
#

are u trying first principles then?

alpine sable
#

Yes

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Use difference quotient: f(x+h)-f(x)/h

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I did that too

alpine sable
#

and got 8 again

alpine sable
charred flint
#

like the question just leads to whether (-1)^(a/b) is a real number

hoary copper
alpine sable
#

I did that

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Wait

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let me try again

alpine sable
alpine sable
charred flint
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a=b and only a=b

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oops I mean a, a multiple of b

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a/b integer

alpine sable
#

which part did I mess up

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a/b doesn't have to be an integer. they only have to be integers on their own, but a/b could be an integer if that's a solution

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This is like the 50th time

hoary copper
#

@alpine sable

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use variable raws values first

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the sub in the gradient point

alpine sable
#

You can't cancel out the hs. You have to factor them out first

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Oh

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2xh + h^2 -h = h (2x + h -1)

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thanks

hoary copper
alpine sable
peak summit
#

yo i need some help

hoary copper
#

wait cobb_2's question first

alpine sable
vocal dirge
alpine sable
#

Help them. don't just give the answer

vocal dirge
#

Ok

hollow hawk
#

a because 8^x is 2^3x (remember the exponent rules?) then you would want to divide them, which would give you 2^(3x-y), another exponent rule which we know 3x-y=12

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try simplifying terms to match them

vocal dirge
#

Here, @peak summit (sorry english isn't my mother language)

hollow hawk
#

yup you got it, good job 👍

hoary copper
#

@alpine sable i am not able to solve your question, but I got till a < b.

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@alpine sable see if you can continue further

odd vale
#

Four satellites revolve around the earth once every 6, 8, 10, and 15
hr, respectively. If the satellites are initially lined up, how many
hours must pass before they will again be lined up?

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cansomeone help me?

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i cant understand this at all

hollow hawk
#

so one satellite revolves every 6 hours

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one every 8 hours

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one every 10 hours

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and one every 15

odd vale
#

yee

hollow hawk
#

why don't we explore a simplified version of this problem:

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2 satellites

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one 5 hours

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one 3 hours

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they can revolve as many times as possible

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(they don't have to revolve the exact same times)

odd vale
hollow hawk
#

you know what lcm is right

odd vale
#

ye ofc

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its either 90/200/120 or 180

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i am just too confused

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ohh wait maybe the answer is 120

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nvm i figured it out xD thanks for the help

hollow hawk
#

nice

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glad you figured it out on your own

small helm
#

When we're talking about sets, is the intersection of sets associative? So can I do A ∩ (B - C) = (A ∩ B) - (A ∩ C)?

vale wigeon
#

that's not what the word "associative" means

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intersection \textit{is} associative but that means $(A \cap B) \cap C = A \cap (B \cap C)$

small helm
#

oh

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I meant distributive

ocean sealBOT
small helm
#

mb got mixed up

vale wigeon
#

anyway, as for your question of whether intersection distributes over set difference

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yes, that is also true

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appears so, anyway

shut knoll
#

is this channel free

vale wigeon
#

unless naru has some follow-up questions, yes, this channel is free

shut knoll
#

stuck on this

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i started with multiplying sqrt(ax+b) + 2 / sqrt(ax+b) + 2

vale wigeon
#

parentheses

alpine sable
#

2yq5...

vale wigeon
#

but yes that's the right move

shut knoll
#

eventually i got a = 2

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(ax + b - 4) / (2[sqrt(ax + b)] + 2x) = 1

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i set the numerator and denominator equal to each other\

vale wigeon
#

i think you may have messed up already

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yeah, you have messed up

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what you will have is $\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{ax+b - 4}{x(\sqrt{ax+b} + 2)} \overset?= 1$

ocean sealBOT
shut knoll
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yeah i got that

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i have no idea how i turned that into what i had

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pretty sure i distributed

vale wigeon
#

no need

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the first thing you should note is since the denominator approaches zero, so must the numerator (otherwise your limit won't exist) thus b = 4

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and then you can replace b with 4 and cancel out the x's in the num and denom

shut knoll
#

wouldnt 1/0 be approaching infinity?

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or anything over 0

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couldn't that also be a solution

vale wigeon
#

you want the limit to exist and be finite

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(or more specifically, equal to 1)

shut knoll
#

oh i see

vale wigeon
#

besides the limit wouldn't exist anyway since you'd have +∞ from one side and -∞ from the other

shut knoll
#

ah yea

dreamy ridge
#

guys i have uestion

shut knoll
#

where did u get that the denominator approaches 0

dreamy ridge
#

its based on limits as well

vale wigeon
#

wyldfyre and i weren't done @dreamy ridge please move to another channel

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@shut knoll look at the denominator

shut knoll
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oh if i plug in x = 0?

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i see

shut knoll
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but now we have a limit question with no x

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do i just ignore the limit then and just treat it like a normal equation and solve for a?

quaint rock
#

Help me plz!

somber osprey
#

ahahhaha

shut knoll
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im using this channel .-.

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@vale wigeon

somber anvil
#

this channel free? i asked in 5&1 but no one responded

alpine sable
#

How do you know when to use the quotient rule, could I say that if what is on the top if the derivative of that isn't zero you would use the quotient rule?

vale wigeon
#

@shut knoll yes just solve for a now

shut knoll
#

mhm i got a = 5

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ax / x(sqrt[a+4]) + 2

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cancelled out x

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a / sqrt[a+4] + 2

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multiplied by sqrt[a+4] - 2

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a(sqrt[a+4] - 2) / a = 1

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cancelled out a

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and i got sqrt(a+4) = 3, a = 5

shut knoll
restive hill
#

Can anyone help me?

placid zinc
#

@alpine sable
Quotient rule will still work here, as it always does. Why is applying the quotient rule not the best way to solve this problem?

alpine sable
shut knoll
alpine sable
#

i was more thinking like when do you have to if you get my drift

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I still don't get this... I've been trying to do these steps on other equations but it doesnt work out, the only difference is usually only the sign at the end result... what are constant terms and based on what do they change signs??

vale wigeon
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@shut knoll when you plug x=0 into ax, you do not get a.

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apologies for my delayed replies

glad mango
shut knoll
vale wigeon
#

you are overcomplicating it and also misplacing parentheses again

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you have $\lim_{x \to 0} \frac{a}{\sqrt{ax+4} + 2} = 1$

ocean sealBOT
vale wigeon
#

plugging in $x = 0$ you get $\frac{a}{\sqrt{4} + 2}$

ocean sealBOT
shut knoll
#

i see, how come what i did didn;t work?

vale wigeon
#

you plugged in x=0 into ax and somehow got a and not 0

shut knoll
#

oh i also somehow lost the x in ax

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yeah

restive hill
#

Can anyone help me?

shut knoll
#

@vale wigeon so a and b are both 4? is there anyway to check

vale wigeon
#

yes a and b are both 4

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,w lim[x -> 0] (sqrt(4x+4) - 2)/x

eternal arrow
#

Im so lost :/

shut knoll
vale wigeon
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idk

shut knoll
#

is there a way graphically

vale wigeon
#

no there's no obvious way to check your solution without just calculating the limit with your values of a and b and seeing whether you get 1 or not

shut knoll
#

the denominator is 0 though

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plugging in those values i get approaching infinity no?

vale wigeon
#

no

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"calculate the limit" does not mean "just plug in x=0 and do nothing else"

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so what if the denom approaches 0

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so does the num

shut knoll
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oh yeah it does

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this one id assume is similar, i multiply by (sqrt(x) + 1) / (sqrt(x) + 1)?

eternal arrow
#

When will you finish your question

vale wigeon
#

@eternal arrow you have posted in multiple channels already

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@shut knoll you could do that but it's going to be a pain because the cube root will still need dealing with

shut knoll
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could i multiply by the cube root instead of square root?

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then i have a 4th root on the denom

vale wigeon
#

you would not.

shut knoll
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oh

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id have x^2

vale wigeon
#

$\sqrt{x} \cdot \sqrt[3]{x} \neq \sqrt[4]{x}$

shut knoll
#

i think

ocean sealBOT
vale wigeon
#

you wouldn't have x^2 either

shut knoll
#

6th root

vale wigeon
#

you would have something with x^(5/6)

shut knoll
#

x^1/2 * x^1/3

vale wigeon
#

i would suggest substituting u := x^(1/6) here to make this into the limit of a rational function

shut knoll
#

what about substituting u as sqrt(x) ?

vale wigeon
#

you can do that but then you will have to deal with u^(2/3)

shut knoll
#

oh no cuz 1/6 is the common factor

vale wigeon
#

so it doesn't really reduce the amount of work to be done

shut knoll
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thats why right

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so (u^2 - 1) / (u^3 - 1)

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im guessing i factor these now?

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and i get 1/u

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nvm i dont

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i forget how to do difference of the cubes

vale wigeon
#

yes, factor these

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u^3 - 1 factors as (u-1)(u^2+u+1)

shut knoll
#

o

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which factors into (u-1)(u+1)(u+1) ?

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actually is that necessary

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i dont think it is

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i dont think it factors like that anyways

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u+1 / u^2 + u + 1 = 2/3

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i dont remember what to do with u though

surreal kindle
#

can someone help me factorize this?

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to this

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i want to learn the process cuz the internet isnt helping alot atm

vale wigeon
vale wigeon
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when writing fractions in plaintext you should surround the numerator and denominator in parentheses so as to respect the order of operations

shut knoll
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aa ik

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i just keep forgetting

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but ye wats next

vale wigeon
#

after you simplify your function to (u+1)/(u^2+u+1) you can and should plug in u=1 as that no longer results in division by zero

shut knoll
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yeah i found 2/3

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by plugging in u = 1

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but thats not the answer is it

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bc i substituted u for x^1/6

vale wigeon
#

x approaches 1

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therefore u will approach 1^(1/6), which is also 1

shut knoll
#

ohh

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if x approached 2 instead

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would the u approach 2^(1/6)

vale wigeon
#

yes

shut knoll
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and then would i plug 2^(1/6) when solving

vale wigeon
#

it's the same as any other limit substitution

shut knoll
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i just didnt know how substituting u affected the limit

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ty for the help!

alpine sable
#

Have I done something wrong here?

jagged imp
#

yes. for instance, in the first step you tried to use power rule where it doesnt apply

stable pecan
#

Remember that you are integrating here

alpine sable
#

Sorry but I'm a beginner

stable pecan
#

not differentiating

alpine sable
#

What should I do?

stable pecan
#

are you aware of the derivative of arctanx?

alpine sable
#

No :/

jagged imp
#

you either need to do a u sub or rewrite x/(x+1)

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such that it looks like integrals you know how to do

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really not sure what arctan has to do with this, so i tentatively want to tell you to ignore alacris

alpine sable
#

Ok.

jagged imp
#

you can't use power rule as you did since x/(x+1) isn't in the form x^n

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and power rule is used for evaluating integrals of that form

alpine sable
#

Got ya

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But I have x1 in my denominator

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Then why?

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@jagged imp

stable pecan
jagged imp
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alacris

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the derivative of arctanx is 1/(1+x^2)

stable pecan
#

oh yeah

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my bad

alpine sable
#

Whatever

jagged imp
#

yeah but you also have x+1 in the denominator

alpine sable
#

Tell me what should I do ;_;

alpine sable
#

Ok

jagged imp
#

yes

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you can either long divide or add and subtract 1 in the denominator to rewrite it as $1-\frac{1}{x+1}$

ocean sealBOT
#

Sneaky

jagged imp
#

at which point, the integral of 1 is x and the integral of 1/(x+1) is ln(x+1)

alpine sable
#

Oh ok thanks bud, got it! @jagged imp

pliant barn
#

I think substitution would be easier. x+1=u
then you have $\int \frac{u-1}{u} du$ which is solvable.

ocean sealBOT
#

Mattan Hoory

jagged imp
#

i just did this since it requires less knowledge

pliant barn
#

But obv both ways are good

jagged imp
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i can assume they know how to add and subtract 1 or long divide

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but i cant assume they know u sub]

pliant barn
#

yea nice

jagged imp
#

i would also argue u sub is longer in this case for the fact its a definite integral

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but maybe not

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there are other steps my method introduces too

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really doesnt matter much lol

alpine sable
#

Again... What should I do?

jagged imp
#

do you know u sub?

alpine sable
#

No

jagged imp
#

Uh have you been given some special rule that the integral of f'(x)/f(x) is ln(f(x))?

jagged imp
#

blobsweat yeah idk what you're supposed to do with this then

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sorry

alpine sable
#

:/

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Tell me how to u sub @jagged imp

pliant barn
#

Did you learn that the integral of 1/x is ln(x) ?

alpine sable
#

Like this? @jagged imp

pliant barn
#

yes

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this is exactly how u do subtition

jagged imp
#

yeah that is u sub lol

alpine sable
#

Alright

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This is multiplication

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But what should I do when it's division? @jagged imp

pliant barn
jagged imp
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are you suggesting x+1=u? That's not gonna do anything ,,,

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try u=x^2+1

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the motivation being that you have a function involving x^2+1 multiplied by the derivative of x^2+1

alpine sable
#

Well nvm

alpine sable
#

Lemme try

pliant barn
ocean sealBOT
#

Mattan Hoory

jagged imp
#

we aren't talking about the first question they posted

alpine sable
#

Umm

jagged imp
#

this is about 2x/(x^2+1)

jagged imp
pliant barn
#

oh ok my bad ^

jagged imp
#

its just added onto the end of the function

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so log(1+x^2)+c

alpine sable
#

Oh thanks

pliant barn
#

Hey, I'm a bit confused about uniform convergences of function series (Into to Calc II)
let
$$ f_{n}(x)=\begin{cases}
n & 0\leq x\leq \frac{1}{n}\
0 & else
\end{cases} $$

Then fn converges uniformly on the closed interval $[0,1]$ to $f(x)=0$ because $\sup|f_{n}-f|=\frac{1}{n}\to 0$

But the integral of fn does not converge to the integral of f.
$$\int_{0}^{1}f_{n}(x)=1\neq0=\int_{0}^{1}0=\int_{0}^{1}f(x)$$
Which contradicts a theorem which states Riemann integrability transfers to the limit f.

ocean sealBOT
#

Mattan Hoory

pliant barn
#

Anyone knows about Riemann integrability and can shed light on this one ?

eternal arrow
#

Can somebody help me answer this question?

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its 3x^2 btw

jagged imp
#

Uh the existence of the riemann integral transfers to f, not the value of the integral itself.

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it is also not true that the integral from 0 to 1 of all f_n is 1 if that's what you're implying

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What we can say is that $\lim_{n \to \infty} \int_0^1 f_n(x) dx=\int_0^1 f(x) dx=0$

eternal arrow
#

Can one of y’all still help me on my question? Will probs be my last or second last question of the night before I go to bed

ocean sealBOT
#

Sneaky

jagged imp
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which is true in general for uniformly converging functions (save the =0 part)

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@pliant barn

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to be more general on that last bit, if $f_n$ converges uniformly to $f$, we would have $\lim_{n \to \infty} \int_C f_n(x) dx=\int_C f(x) dx$ for any compact interval C

ocean sealBOT
#

Sneaky

pliant barn
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hmm

pliant barn
#

the area of the rectangle is always 1

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so $\int_0^1 f_n = 1$ ?

jagged imp
#

,w integral from 0 to 1 1/n dx

ocean sealBOT
#

Mattan Hoory

jagged imp
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is only 1 when n=1

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The integral from 0 to n would surely be 1

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but we aren't dealing with that

pliant barn
# ocean seal

I think this is incorrect, becasue its 1/n only if 0<x<1/n

jagged imp
#

uh

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you wrote if 0<x<n

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in your original message

pliant barn
#

ok right

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myb ad

#

my bad

#

I meant 1/n

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$$ f_{n}(x)=\begin{cases}
n & 0\leq x\leq \frac{1}{n}\
0 & else
\end{cases} $$

ocean sealBOT
#

Mattan Hoory

pliant barn
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yea ok this it

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sorry I've made a mess

pliant barn
#

So now
$$\int_{0}^{1}f_{n}(x)=1\neq0=\int_{0}^{1}0=\int_{0}^{1}f(x)$$
which means

$$\lim{n \to \infty} \int_C f_n(x) dx=1 \neq\int_C f(x) dx=0 $$

ocean sealBOT
#

Mattan Hoory

pliant barn
#

kind of in the middle right here :

jagged imp
#

isn't sup|f_n-f|=n now? Therefore no longer uniformly convergent

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i'm not too experienced here so I could be wrong but that seems to be the issue to me

pliant barn
#

You are correcty

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I was looking at 2 different examples

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and I was confused

jagged imp
#

lol nw

pliant barn
#

This is not uniformly convergent, and the integral indeed does not converge

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This IS uniformly convergent , but the integral is non convergant on non compact interval

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