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hardy mirage
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Actually I a always confused by coordinates, is is (x,y)?

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So it is point C

oak chasm
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It needs to be less than 5 from (5, 5).

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Another way to solve it is to draw a circle of radius 2 with center (2, 2) and a circle of radiul 5 with center (5, 5). The intersection will be where the allowed points are.

alpine sable
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pls ping

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thats it?

ocean sealBOT
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SubGui

astral dagger
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then you may find a way to calculate it, but first did you understand why the integral is like that?

alpine sable
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i think so

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how do u set it up for v?

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part b

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@astral dagger

astral dagger
# alpine sable how do u set it up for v?

you need to parametrize the surface somehow, then calculate the partial derivatives of the "vector" wrt to the new variables, then set the integral: (\iint_S,\rm{d}S=\iint ||X_u\cross X_v||,du,dv)

ocean sealBOT
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SubGui

alpine sable
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im not sure ;/

astral dagger
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read it again

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slowly

astral dagger
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or maybe there's no need

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I also have solved a question related to this same subject today and got wrong

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because it wasn't needed to parametrize, but let's see

vapid seal
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Hii

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Please prove

astral dagger
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go ahead

astral dagger
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this one is already in use

vapid seal
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Yeah sure

alpine sable
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is this room in use?

astral dagger
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yup, just waiting for her to send the question

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good

alpine sable
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sorry

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im here

alpine sable
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i have a hw prob and im v confused

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what do i do here @astral dagger

astral dagger
alpine sable
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LOL IK IM SO BAD

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at physics

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almost failed in HS

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it wantsvector valued funcs

astral dagger
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but well, I think you should assume velocity vector tangent to the trajectory

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then decompose in two components, a vertical and horizontal ones

alpine sable
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how?

astral dagger
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then maybe the horizontal one is constant, and the only one changing with time being the vertical

astral dagger
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when it reaches the maximum height, v_y component is equal to zero

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and starts pointing downwards after that

alpine sable
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interesting

astral dagger
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but for that, you may call helpers, I'm also not that good in physics

alpine sable
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;/

alpine sable
astral dagger
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but it turns out not being that complicated

alpine sable
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if u do it could u verify <

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3

astral dagger
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trust Wolfram

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there's no need to verify if the integral is correct

alpine sable
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i plugged it in

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and i got pi in the answer

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idk how it got pi thats y

shut knoll
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how would i approach this

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im at sin(x) = -1/2

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it wants an answer in radians

alpine sable
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@shut knoll trig value table just google

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So it is -pi/6

placid zinc
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You'll need to memorize your unit circle

alpine sable
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Because 1/2=pi/6

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@shut knoll

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No don’t memorize

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Just look it up lol

shut knoll
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it didnt work

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i think it wants it in the interval [0, 2pi]

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apparently 7pi/6 is an answer too but how do i get that

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is there a way to find 7pi/6

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without just memorizing that

alpine sable
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Just add 2pi until you get 7pi/6

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?

spiral mason
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the unit circle repeats itself, so for any angle A in radians, there is also an angle A + 2pi that is a solution

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-pi/6 + 2pi = 7pi/6

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they probably want 7pi/6 because it's positive

placid zinc
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You are confusing yourself if you are trying to avoid unit circle arguments

spiral mason
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and positive angles are generally preferred

shut knoll
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i see

alpine sable
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You had to get it explaine

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In the book

willow wadi
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do u get

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29.8 km/h N 13.4° E

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<@&286206848099549185>

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☝️

alpine sable
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hello

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$\int _0^{\pi }\left(cos\left(x\right)+4\right)^2dx$

ocean sealBOT
alpine sable
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can i use u-substitution to solve this integral?

willow wadi
alpine sable
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and would it be easier than just doing it the "normal" way

willow wadi
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this channel is taken

alpine sable
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well

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this channel was dead for a good

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10+ minutes

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sorry

willow wadi
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u cant take the channel until its dead for 30 min

glass lichen
alpine sable
glass lichen
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When the derivative of u would be present usually

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If the integrand was -sin(x)[cos(x)+4]^2 for example

alpine sable
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Ok so its when a function is multiplying itself by its derivative?

alpine sable
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Thats my question

thin wolf
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need some help with q2, not sure if i done it correctly

alpine sable
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how do i know if i should use it or not?

thin wolf
willow wadi
thin wolf
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is there an ongoing question? my bad 🙏🏻

thin wolf
willow wadi
thin wolf
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yea it’s taken from past year papers

willow wadi
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should have cropped it well

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if u had to cheat

jagged imp
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Why are you so insistent on this being a test

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leave it be

thin wolf
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no no it’s homework, it’s just questions taken from past year papers that

jagged imp
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theyve provided justification for the numbers

thin wolf
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in my school we constantly do worksheets that contain marks because 99% of these questions are from sch papers, if not then past GCSE papers

gaunt magnet
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@glass lichen ayo wassup wanna help me

thin wolf
thin wolf
gaunt magnet
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Oh

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,w 5x^2+2px+p-3=0

median tendon
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@alpine sable did u ever get the help for the projectile question?

alpine sable
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no:(

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But I think it’s Suzie q

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Not sure

median tendon
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like is it cubic?, or linear? and so on

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remember the question does not say there is wind resistance, so the projectile will follow a nice polynomial

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ping me if u do answer, im working in another window and wont see your answer

grim shadow
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bro its said that only for thats on the projectile is gravity

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so no wind resistence

median tendon
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i know

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thats what i said?

grim shadow
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and even if there is wind resistence they didnt give function for that

median tendon
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they dont need to give a function, a projectile will follow a quite simple polynomiall (not gonna say which one cause im trying to let xoxo think about it)

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when only subject to gravity

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simple physics

grim shadow
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nah i was talking about wind resistance

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they need to give a function for that if thats the case

median tendon
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wind resistance would make it very complex and most probably unsolvable without more info

grim shadow
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nope its easy

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there are several problems in ie irodov

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u can check if u want

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its basically caluculus

median tendon
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you would need the speed of wind atleast....

alpine sable
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I think it’s suzie q not sure

median tendon
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and temeprature

alpine sable
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Wind and temp and all don’t matter

median tendon
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since desity will depend on that

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ok lets go back to the original problem xD

alpine sable
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Nothing matters except time and height

grim shadow
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look u literally only need bulk modulus of that gas

median tendon
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yes, now that graph, what kind of equation is it?

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just the general form

grim shadow
median tendon
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do you know?

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I know u know xD

grim shadow
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like y=ax^2+bx+c

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xd

tawny totem
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Hey

median tendon
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ok @alpine sable have u learnt that before?

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that its parabolic

grim shadow
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bro this channel is occupied

grim shadow
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i feel this question is pretty easy but there's just too much to read

median tendon
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'easy' is relative, to you it might be easy if you've covered alot of physics, to someone just learning, it might be hard

grim shadow
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hmmmm true

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wait let me read

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it may take 10 mins xd

median tendon
grim shadow
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how??

median tendon
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an easy counterexample, something that has a very large surface area would resist much more than something that has a smaller surface area

grim shadow
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so??

median tendon
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The question gives not enough information to solve

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with wind resistance

grim shadow
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you know how do they predict the trajectory of bombs dropped from fighter jets in real life??

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have u studied research level mechanics

median tendon
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they definitely know the dimensions of the bombs

alpine sable
grim shadow
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bro look

alpine sable
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yeah i feel like this is a level easy difficulty question in physics

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problem is

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im BAD at physics

median tendon
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ok well now you know i guess

alpine sable
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i think u use the position and velocity vectors

median tendon
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does that help you solve the problem?

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or do u still need more guidance

alpine sable
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i think its suzie q so if thats correct then i think im good

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if not then idk

grim shadow
median tendon
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I'm not too sure what a suzie q is tbh

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but know that the projectile motion follows a quadratic is all you need to know to solve that question

grim shadow
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i cant explain it to u why coz u havent studied that level of physics but trust me

median tendon
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care to explain how a couch will follow a different trajectory than a coin?

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if all you need to know is "modulus of gas"

grim shadow
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u forgot the bulk??

median tendon
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and not knowing the dimesions of the projectile itself

grim shadow
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different dimensions wont change the trajectory that much

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be it couch or coin

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if u know bulk modulus eqn u can still find the trajectory

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the surface area effect is already accomodated in bulk modulus eqn

median tendon
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something pointy will be subject to less resistance for example, dimensions play a huge role in the projectile planning...

grim shadow
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how it is defined or what is universal eqn of it

median tendon
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ohh its calculated with volume?

grim shadow
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def of bulk modulus changes much later on

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universal bulk modulus eqn gives relation b/w temperature effect, surface area effect, even things as small as dipole-dipole attraction b/w gases and material of projectile

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basically literally every damn thing that we know till now in physics

median tendon
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what is b/w?

grim shadow
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between

median tendon
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"surface area effect"

grim shadow
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yep

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that also

median tendon
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so you will need to know the surface area..

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the dimesions of the projectile

grim shadow
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obviously

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but u need it only when ur finding it very accurately

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if u want approx then u dont even need dimensions

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crazy, right??

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but all these things are experimental

median tendon
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without dimesnsions and material of the projectile, i dont think u can get good accuracy

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throw a coin and throw a paper

grim shadow
median tendon
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even half a meter

grim shadow
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what will be the difference b/w their landing points

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max to max, mb a 100 ft

median tendon
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depending on speed of wind, pretty large error

grim shadow
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nah max error cannot be more than 500 ft

median tendon
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and that is proven?

grim shadow
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but look compared to what height u threw it, thats pretty low

grim shadow
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we still dont know why is there so low error b/w a coin and paper

median tendon
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Is there a paper on this?

grim shadow
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i think an experiment was conducted around 1997 or smthing but idk

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they threw a coin and a bed ( i dont remember tbh) from 20k feet

median tendon
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coin and bed I can believe

grim shadow
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and calculated result and experimental result had an avg error of 0.91 %

median tendon
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but paper is weird

grim shadow
median tendon
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btw this is only dropping right?

grim shadow
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yep

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imagine giving a velocity of 50 m/s to both of them

median tendon
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actually shooting something at a distance is where error will be insane

median tendon
grim shadow
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well look

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they were thrown from a helicopter

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so it cant remain stationary at that heights

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wind speed is too high at those heights

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actually u wont even know if ur under a velocity at that height

median tendon
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the helicopter would be able to tell you

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satlellite tracking + imu sensors + other shit I'd imagine

grim shadow
median tendon
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no

grim shadow
median tendon
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oh

grim shadow
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but more interesting things happened when they tried to calculate the trajectory of fluid

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they got a fucking 7th order differential eqn

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and its still kind of uncalculated till now

median tendon
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thats expected, just the flow of water is computationally expensive to calculate

grim shadow
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expensive?? more like impossible

median tendon
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depends on the problem

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but yeah massive area of research

grim shadow
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hmm interesting but not my field of research

alpine sable
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<@&286206848099549185>

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(a-b)^2 = a^2-2ab+b^2 = a^2+2ab+b^2-4ab = (a+b)^2-4ab

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(a+b)^2=a^2+2ab+b^2 = a^2-2ab+b^2+4ab = (a-b)^2+4ab

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there u go

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@alpine sable

burnt pond
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no i'm not talking about the pi symbol, I mean the n

glacial hedge
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n just represents the current cycle its on

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n*pi

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for n is any integer

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its on it's nth cycle

burnt pond
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i've never seen that notation before

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do you have any links about it?

glacial hedge
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uh...

glacial hedge
vale wigeon
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i think y'all are focusing too much on the wrong things

glacial hedge
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^

vale wigeon
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$n\pi$ can be read as ``some integer multiple of $\pi$''

ocean sealBOT
vale wigeon
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it could stand for π, it could stand for 2π, it could stand for 3π, it could stand for 17π, it could stand for -42069π, etc...

glacial hedge
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i'm not gonna lie... but that's pretty much what I said xD

vale wigeon
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point is, the values of tan repeat themselves every π units

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thus any solution of tan(x) = c will usher in a whole family of solutions, with adjacent ones π units apart

burnt pond
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yep ok

jagged rapids
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Can someone help me formally prove this:
show that there is no set V such that every set is a member of V.

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Basically the set of all sets paradox, I mean I have the intuitive idea

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<@&286206848099549185>

vale wigeon
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,rcw

ocean sealBOT
willow wadi
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can someone please

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check my work

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helper pls

vale wigeon
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.

willow wadi
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Hi helper may u check my work please

velvet citrus
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Bob, the proprietor of Midland Lumber, believes that the odds in favor of a business deal going through are 8 to 5. What is the (subjective) probability that this deal will not materialize? (Round your answer to three decimal places.)

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how do i solve this?

little lotus
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8/5 > 1, the odds cannot be greater than 1

jagged imp
velvet citrus
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that doesnt make sense

jagged imp
velvet citrus
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so then how do i figure out the probability that they wont

jagged imp
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idk what subjective probability is personally so I can't really help. If it just means the probability that a business deal doesn't go through, then its 5/(8+5)=5/13.

velvet citrus
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that is probably right

uncut depot
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so i have an equation

x - 2y = 5
2x + 3y = 10``` and the answer give in the book is `x = 5` and `y = 0`, but there are many solutions for the equation, is there a *rule* or something like that to say that only a particular number must be used for `y` or `x` to solve the equation to get `x = 5, y = 0` or is the book just choosing an answer from the list randomly
forest drum
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Is this channel busy?

uncut depot
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yep

alpine sable
uncut depot
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what are they?

alpine sable
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You can use substitution method

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But the easiest one is eliminating one of the variables.

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@uncut depot

uncut depot
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well, i used substitution

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but those are methods

alpine sable
uncut depot
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they say solve it graphically, they ask us to not use elimination or substitution

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does that make sense

alpine sable
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Oh, I'm really sorry.

uncut depot
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for what?

alpine sable
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I haven't noticed that 😔

uncut depot
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oh its fine

gray isle
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Did you graph your two lines?

alpine sable
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For graph, you have to assume a value of x, and then find the value of y with respect to that equation @uncut depot

uncut depot
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so my doubt is, is there a rule for that assumption

alpine sable
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Take easy ones.

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Like if x=0

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If x=1

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And so on...

uncut depot
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i assumed y = 2 i got x = 9 but the book says x = 5, y = 0 does that mean the book is just using one of the examples?

uncut depot
uncut depot
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oh okay, then fine

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thanks for ur help

gray isle
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the solution will be where your twoines intersect

uncut depot
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i see

alpine sable
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Yeah

uncut depot
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but there are multiple solutions, so i got confused

gray isle
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how are you getting multiple solutions?

uncut depot
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because

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what wait

gray isle
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Can you show your graph?

vale wigeon
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because two straight lines can intersect at two points without coinciding, somehow

uncut depot
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i lied

vale wigeon
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why did you lie?

alpine sable
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Look, there are two equations.

You have to assume values of x and y. And then make the graph.

gray isle
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lying doesn't help anyone here

uncut depot
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see if i assume x = 1 i get one solution

uncut depot
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if i assume x = 2 its a different solution

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isn't it?

alpine sable
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Do you mean a straight parabola? XD

vale wigeon
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can i see the equations again?

gray isle
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you're not using the word "solution" properly here

vale wigeon
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also, who said anything about assuming anything?

alpine sable
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Take 2-3 solutions and Mark the points on the graph.

uncut depot
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oh ok

gray isle
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you're not using the word "solution" properly here

uncut depot
vale wigeon
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that was addressed to ryuzaki, not to you.

uncut depot
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oh okay

vale wigeon
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anyway, what seems to be the problem here?

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you're asked to solve this system graphically?

vale wigeon
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so you know that you're supposed to graph each equation

uncut depot
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i was asking if there are rules for assuming

alpine sable
vale wigeon
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why ASSUME anything????

uncut depot
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uhh

vale wigeon
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why do you need to assume anything?

alpine sable
vale wigeon
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i'm asking azorfus now.

uncut depot
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idk

vale wigeon
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exactly.

alpine sable
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Take values of x which can be easily solved.

vale wigeon
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do you know how to graph equations of straight lines?

uncut depot
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yes ig i know

vale wigeon
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"i guess"?

uncut depot
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yes

vale wigeon
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well then

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are you able to graph x - 2y = 5?

uncut depot
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yes

vale wigeon
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then do it and share the result.

alpine sable
uncut depot
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i see

vale wigeon
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what ryuzaki is trying to say is that the point (0, -5/2) lies on the line x - 2y = 5.

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but the way they're phrasing it makes it sound like (0, -5/2) is the solution to the entire system, which it very clearly isn't.

alpine sable
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If x=1, then the value of y should be -2 I guess. And then plot the points in the graph (X,Y)

vale wigeon
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but ryuzaki, azorfus just confirmed that they knew how to graph equations of straight lines.

uncut depot
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so i do that another time and then i draw the graph?

vale wigeon
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there is no need to explain it again.

alpine sable
vale wigeon
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i just posted a screenshot.

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from mere minutes ago no less.

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unless azorfus LIED to us again?

uncut depot
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i did not lie

vale wigeon
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well then

uncut depot
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we need two points for a line ryt?

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am i wrong.

alpine sable
vale wigeon
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you're not wrong.

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it takes two points for a line.

uncut depot
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one point is (x,y) so we need another solution?

vale wigeon
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taking a third point is merely a bonus and might help with keeping the line more straight.

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no you've gone and overthought this again azorfus

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if you're graphing x - 2y = 5 then you can (and should) temporarily forget about everything else and focus on that equation and that equation only

uncut depot
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so i get x and y for that equation?

vale wigeon
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i don't know what you mean by this

uncut depot
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I'll think about it first

alpine sable
uncut depot
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yes i do

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do you want me to find them?

alpine sable
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Then what are you supposed to mean by asking this?

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Yeah

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Smh

uncut depot
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The part im confused about it

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solution of that equation is the point (x,y) ryt (im asking this so i don't get confused another time)

vale wigeon
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"the point (x,y)"

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it's unclear what you mean by this

uncut depot
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?

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wait i'll try to draw it out

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sorry, it took me forever to do this

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lets say x = 3 and y = 4

alpine sable
uncut depot
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so (3, 4) is a point ryt?

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this thing

alpine sable
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No.

uncut depot
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then what is it called

alpine sable
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I'll better suggest you to revise how to solve these questions properly.

uncut depot
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oh okay

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oh now it makes sense, thanks anyways

alpine sable
marsh vector
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Please someone

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Check if this is correct

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I failed the most easiest question

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Im a fucking idiot... I failed the exam 😭

surreal meadow
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looks good

marsh vector
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Are you forreal????

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ITS CORRECT??

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Omg

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I literally ran out of tears

icy trail
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$cosec x + cot x = 3$
find $cosecx - cotx$

ocean sealBOT
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querty

icy trail
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could anyone help with this? :)

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do i need to solve for x in the first equation then put those solutions into the second?

alpine sable
marsh vector
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Fuck my life

alpine sable
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As √-27 is an imaginary number @marsh vector

alpine sable
icy trail
marsh vector
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Im gonna kill myself not even joking

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Im so dumb

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😔

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Whats the right answer??

surreal meadow
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its not the square root ryuz

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its the cube root

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helem you're correct

marsh vector
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omg. You just made my day man

icy trail
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my calculator says it's positive 4/15 - this is a lie

surreal meadow
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its negative

icy trail
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nvm

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yes it is negative

marsh vector
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-4/15 or 4/-15?

surreal meadow
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same thing

marsh vector
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Same thing????

alpine sable
marsh vector
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Im literally the happiest person on earth rn

alpine sable
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The handwriting.

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Rip

surreal meadow
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yes $-\frac{4}{15}=\frac{-4}{15}=\frac{4}{-15}$

ocean sealBOT
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maximo

marsh vector
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I literally ran out if tears

hexed viper
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You need to care less

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It’s just numbers

hearty nest
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if we have a polygon of all sidelengths 1, and say there are two rabbits r1,r2 at some vertices. r1 can take jumps only of length 1 from one vertice to other and r2 can take jumps of length 2, how to formally prove that they will eventually meet ?

marsh vector
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Wow one question i got the answer correct even though it was all wrong

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Lmfaoooooo

hearty nest
icy trail
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prove for a general polygon with like n sides?

hearty nest
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yeah,but ig number of sides doesn't matter

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so let's just assume it has n sides

hexed viper
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Do they always jump clockwise?

hearty nest
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yeah same direction

hexed viper
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Their relative distance changes by 1 unit

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So after n jumps they’ll be back again

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You can even see that, n jumps they’ll both be back at the start

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The 1 unit guy goes round once and the 2 unit guy goes round twice

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Even if they start on different places they’ll meet because their relative distance changes by 1

hearty nest
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they may or may not start from the same vertex, they are at any two vertex initially thonk

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oh yeah got it , we can assume r1 is at rest so r2 moves by length 1 so they will surely meet

surreal meadow
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how many practice quizzes do you have

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start with the practice problems and do enough of each section until you feel like you understand the material well enough

placid zinc
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Hard to know without knowing how ready you feel. I assume you need to sleep eventually haha

surreal meadow
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then move forwards to the next topic. finish with the practice quiz to test your overall retention

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🤷🏻‍♂️ you could just skip the studying

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of course, so just do a bit of each section to see what you need to work on and start with that part

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what's the format of the quiz?

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just write the proofs?

surreal meadow
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then i'd do exactly what I said, skim through the proofs to see which you retained the best and worst

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then focus on the ones that need the most work from you

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but i'd finish with the practice quiz since you only have the 1 copy

surreal meadow
opal wyvern
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If the first root is the square root, and the second is the cube root, what's the third

prime badge
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nothing

vale wigeon
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what are you talking about?

surreal meadow
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tesseract root

vale wigeon
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$\sqrt[4]{x}$ is not called the third root. it's called the fourth root.

ocean sealBOT
upper escarp
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,help

ocean sealBOT
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A brief description and guide on how to use me was sent to your DMs!
Please use ,list to see a list of all my commands, and ,help cmd to get detailed help on a command!

vague jolt
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I honestly have no idea how to approach this question

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Practice question

vale wigeon
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$A = {0, \varnothing, {0}}$

ocean sealBOT
vague jolt
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Yessir

vale wigeon
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...don't call me sir

vague jolt
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Yes Ann

vale wigeon
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i suppose they expect you to write out all the elements of P(A) and not fuck up any braces as you do so...

vague jolt
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But isn't P(A) a function

vale wigeon
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P(A) is the powerset of A

vague jolt
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How tf do I know what's in P(A) without knowing what P is

alpine sable
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P isn't just a function, it's known notation for "all possible subsets of this set"

vale wigeon
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i just told you... P stands for powerset

vague jolt
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I know we sent our message at the same time sorry

alpine sable
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What Ann said? Yes

vague jolt
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A combination of {0, empty set, {0}}

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Oh so it's

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A very very simple question

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Damn

vale wigeon
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yes it is

alpine sable
#

You did say it was a practice question

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Probably just checking you know definitions

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That's literally everything

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So, in approaching questions like these, the first step is to double check you actually understand everything that appears in the question (notation, terminology) - if you don't, you fill in those gaps before attempting to answer

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Otherwise you're guessing

vale wigeon
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i think you might have missed something here

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such as the empty set, which ought to be a member of the powerset of anything

sage summit
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isn't 0 usually defined as the empty set ?

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then 0 is 0

vale wigeon
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i didn't say that was the only thing you missed

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i didn't check if you missed anything else

alpine sable
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Or rather, what does {∅} mean?

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So, the powerset of ∅

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It's the only thing I can think of that would use that notation, does it belong in the powerset of A though?

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Oh yeah, I suppose if ∅ was an element of A to begin with, {∅} would be part of the powerset

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If you're proving by contradiction you should assume the opposite and find the fallacy, so assume it's rational

vague jolt
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Okay hold on this questions shouldn't be that hard

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Rational means that it can be represented in the form of x = a/b where a, b are integers and b =/= 0

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So I should probably work off of that definition of the set of rationals

alpine sable
#

The proof by contradiction serves the purpose of making use of some property gained by the assumption and finding a fallacy. The property you have there is a very good starting point

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Isn't part (c) option A?

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Because v_x is always increasing, and regardless of what v_y is, v_y^2 ≥ 0 always

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So the magnitude will be increasing

alpine sable
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What is the matrix representation of the laplacian operator on differentiable functions from $R^2$ to R?

ocean sealBOT
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Cauchy

alpine sable
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<@&286206848099549185>

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Can anyone check the link above?

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may someone please tell me for "6b" how the value of h=0.01 finds the gradient at the x-coord "x=-1"? how do i determine which x-coord it will find

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@alpine sable What was your answer for 6a?

rigid smelt
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it doesnt gives you the slope of the tangent

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it just gives you an estimate

alpine sable
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@alpine sable okay, so now make a line through x = -1 using that slope

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Then plug in h = 0.01 to find the slope

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for its slope

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You're making the line through the point x = -1... the value of h does not matter for that

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h decides how close to the derivative the estimate will be

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oh right

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and plug in 0.01 for h

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Yeah

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You're estimating the slope of the curve at x = 2, up to some accuracy depending on how small h is

wicked drum
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can anyone help me with a differential equation question pls??

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I tried everything I could for the past hour and now i am desperate pls help

vague coral
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1/M dM/dt = 1 - S

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and you use logarithm

wicked drum
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i tried doing that but it has to be done so that the only variable M(t) and S(t) is related to is t

vague coral
#

integration

vale wigeon
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this looks mighty complicated

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can you share some of the things you've tried?

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systems of nonlinear ODEs rarely, if ever, have nice formulas for their solutions...

vague coral
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you will have $$ log|M| = t - \int S dt $$

ocean sealBOT
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Herels

vale wigeon
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herels, i'm almost certain this won't lead anywhere.

wicked drum
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i've tried @vague coral 's way and tried doing dM/dS thinking it might help and some other algebraic non sense. I am so lost cause I missed some classes

vale wigeon
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i mean ok, maybe it is possible to combine these equations into a 2nd order ODE in S alone

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S' = -S + MS
differentitate both sides: S'' = -S' + M'S + MS'
S'' = -(-S + MS) + (M-MS)S + M(-S+MS)
= S - MS + MS - MS^2 - MS + M^2S...

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hm

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no, looks like this is no good either...

wicked drum
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arghh im stuffed haha

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idk what else can be done to try to solve it

vague coral
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I'm thinking about matrix here

vale wigeon
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herels, this is a nonlinear system of equations.

vague coral
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yes I know

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but I'm trying to find something

wicked drum
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i dont think anyone mentioned matrix in the class but idk

vague coral
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$$\frac{dM}{dt} - M = -\frac{dS}{dt} - S$$
can we do something here ?

ocean sealBOT
#

Herels

wicked drum
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you could make a (dM + dS)/dt but im not sure how that helps

vague coral
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we will have $\frac{d}{dt}(M+S) = M-S$

ocean sealBOT
#

Herels

vague coral
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

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I was tempted to do a u-sub xd

wheat shore
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The perimeter of a triangle is 84cm and its area is 336cm^2. If one of its sides is 30cm. Find the length of other remaining other sides.

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help me

swift roost
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Hi.. can someone help me out with these two questions T_T stuck on it for the whole day.. if possible can solve with solution tq :3

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I have the answer but I can’t work out the solution

tight locust
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,w 120 = a + b, b = 6.5a

vague jolt
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Is this channel being used right now?

tight locust
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go ahead ig

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if 36 divides a^2 then 6 divides a

vague jolt
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Yeah

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I spent some time thinking of a counter example and I couldn't find any

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So I'm sure it's true

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Wait

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I'm an idiot

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Wait no I'm not

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I'm pretty sure this is true

tight locust
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a^2 is a perfect square so each prime of its decomposition must be raised to an even power

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so if 6^(2n) divides a^2 then 6^n must divide a

vague jolt
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By any chance do u know what theorem this comes from

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So I could read more abt it from my notes

tight locust
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it's just basic arithmetic idk what the law is called

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but let's say a = (xyz). then a^2 = (xyz)^2 = x^2y^2z^2

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yeah partially

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but what i just stated is a basic rule of exponents

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read what i just wrote

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yes

vague jolt
#

And each prime in the decomposition of a^2 needs to be raised to an even power?

tight locust
#

yes

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by definition

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otherwise it's not a perfect square

vague jolt
#

Okay yeah that makes sense

#

But where does 6^(2n) come from

tight locust
#

6^(2n) = 36^n

vague jolt
#

Why is 36 being raised to the power of n

tight locust
#

because we know that 36 is a factor

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so some multiple of 36 must divide a^2

vague jolt
#

Ah 36 is a multiple of a^2

#

But wouldn't it be 36(n) instead of 36^(2n)

tight locust
#

36 is a factor of a^2

vague jolt
#

Actually no it can't

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Huh

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Oh it can't because

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a^2 is a power right?

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Like a is an integer

tight locust
#

every prime factor of a^2 must be raised to an even power

vague jolt
#

Yeah makes sense

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Kind of

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Hmm

tight locust
#

a = (p1p2p3...) so a^2 = (p1p2p3...)^2 = (p1)^2 * (p2)^2 * (p3)^2 * ...

vague jolt
#

Yeah I get that

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36 | a^2 => 6^2 | a^2 => 6 | a right?

#

Like is that the logic?

tight locust
#

yes

vague jolt
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I feel like this isn't a reasonable proof though

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Idk

#

Am I wrong for thinking that?

tight locust
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why not?

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use your words

vale wigeon
#

36 | a^2 => 6^2 | a^2 => 6 | a right?
Like is that the logic?

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do we know that m^2 | n^2 implies m | n though

#

this jump feels the tiniest bit dodgy to me

vague jolt
#

I don't think it does

vale wigeon
#

i could be wrong about it and it could actually be true, but still.

sage summit
#

it's true in Z

vague jolt
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They are all integers

vague coral
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@wicked drum a friend of mine solve the problem

vague jolt
#

So ig it's true

tight locust
#

it has to be true. when a number is square rooted then the powers of its prime factors are halved

vale wigeon
sage summit
#

sounds unlikely

vale wigeon
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bruh

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@acoustic ingot channel busy please move

acoustic ingot
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sry bout that

sage summit
#

but I think in this case you can just show that if n = 18k+a with 1 <= a <= 17 and a not 6 or 12 then n² is not a multiple of 36 because n² = 324k²+36ka+a², and so you check all 15 values of a² and check they are not multiples of 36

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wait uuh

vale wigeon
#

you want to say that if 6 doesnt divide n then 36 doesnt divide n^2

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i.e. contrapositive

vague coral
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@vale wigeon for the system of differential equation, if you want to see the solution, I have it, I can send it to you if you want

noble sinew
#

euclids lemma?

vale wigeon
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12ka + a^2 should never be zero mod 36 for a in 1:5 and k in Z i htink

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hm

sage summit
#

and obviously only k mod 3 matters

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so that's a finite computation

vale wigeon
#

would still be nice to have a non-FTA proof for m^2 | n^2 => m | n though

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this just FEELS like something that should be provable without nuking it using FTA

noble sinew
sage summit
#

what's euclid lemma again ?

noble sinew
#

if p divides ab then p divides a or p divides b

sage summit
#

/:

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genius

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that works for this case

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but not for the general case Ann is talking about sadly

vague jolt
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So I can literally go 6^2 | a^2 => 6 | a?

sage summit
#

I think ?

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6 is not prime

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but 3 and 2 are

vague jolt
#

Huh

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So I should go

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3^2 * 2^2

sage summit
#

you go 6² | a² => 3 | a² => 3 | a

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do the same with 2

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and then argue that (3 | a and 2 | a) => 6 | a

hexed viper
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I think you need a powerful theorem as it doesn’t hold in general rings I believe

vale wigeon
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can we prove p^(2m) | n^2 implies p^m | n

hexed viper
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It’s got to use some ring theoretic property of Z

vale wigeon
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because if we can prove that then my general case follows i think??

vague jolt
sage summit
#

the second implication is euclid's lemma

vague jolt
#

The question is to prove 36 | a^2 implies 6 | a

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If a and b are ints

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What is the first thing I should recognize as soon as I see this

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That a^2 is a perfect square so it can be decomposed into primes with even powers?

sage summit
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you should hit it with the fundamental theorem of arithmetic yeah

vague jolt
#

What I stated is derived from FTA right?

sage summit
#

what you stated ?

vague jolt
#

That a^2 is a perfect square so it can be decomposed into primes with even powers?

sage summit
#

yes

vague jolt
#

Okay and then my next step should be

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To decompose 36 right?

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Which can be decomposed into 6^2 = 3^2 * 2^2

sage summit
#

well somehow you will have to conclude that 2 divides a and 3 divides a because if not you would not have 36 divides a²

vague jolt
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Ah wait

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So we have

sage summit
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yes

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yes

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4 and 9 divide 36 and 36 divides a² so 4 and 9 divide a²

#

where does that last implication come from

vague jolt
#

Ur right

sage summit
#

and the first one too

vague jolt
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I'm not sure

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But I know the logic is correct

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But where does it come from

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I have no idea

sage summit
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use euclid's lemma

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or the fundamental theorem

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to show them

vague jolt
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I'm lost again

sage summit
#

so far you have showed that 36 | a² => (4 | a² and 9 | a²)

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and you didn't use any deep result

vague jolt
#

Okay

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So I'm at 4 | a^2 and 9 | a^2

sage summit
#

so you will need to use something to end

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like euclid's lemma

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euclid's lemma should be your best friend

vague jolt
#

I just saw Euclid's lemma right before u said that lol

#

So we got

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2^2 | a^2 and 3^2 | a^2 => 2 | a^2 and 3 | a^2 and according to Euclid's Lemma if p is prime and p | xy then p | x or p | y

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So 2 | a * a and 3 | a * a => 2 | a and 3 | a

#

But now how do I get 6 | a opencry

sage summit
#

you compute the least common multiple of 2 and 3 ?

vague jolt
#

OH

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SHIT

#

YEAH

#

THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE

#

SINCE WE KNOW THAT BOTH 2 AND 3 ARE DIVISIBLE INTO A

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THAT MEANS THAT A IS AT LEAST EQUAL TO THE LOWEST COMMON MULTIPLE OF 2 AND 3

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WHICH IS 6

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HOLY SHIT

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MATH IS SO SICK BRO LOOOOL

sage summit
vague jolt
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Sorry

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I actually like math a lot it's just always hard for me to get started studying

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And the best way for me to learn is to talk to someone like this

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But it's kinda hard to get people to have a convo like this with me lol

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So thanks

sage summit
#

it's fine lol

alpine sable
#

is the channel free?

vague jolt
#

Yeah take it

alpine sable
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ok

#

thanks

#

can i know what trans. prop. of ~= is supposed to stand for?

sage summit
#

transitivity

alpine sable
#

oh

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thanks

sage summit
#

if angle A = angle B and angle B = angle C then angle A = angle C

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dark magic

alpine sable
#

thanks

#

help anyone?

#

(using unitary method)

tight locust
#

a + b + c = 85342
a = 3b/8
b = 5c/2

vague jolt
#

Is there a bijection between N and (Q X Q) ?

#

In other words, is Q x Q countable?

vale wigeon
#

yes there is

vague jolt
#

So Q X Q is countable?

vale wigeon
#

yes, Q^2 is countable.

alpine sable
hexed viper
#

Its easy

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Yeah

#

Since Q is countable, two copies is countable. You just alternate from counting the left one and the right one

vale wigeon
#

euler2

hexed viper
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Do a diagonal thing

vale wigeon
#

we aren't talking about the union of two disjoint copies of Q

hexed viper
#

Zoom zoom

vale wigeon
#

we're talking about the product of two copies of Q

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@vague jolt is your teacher draconian about that exact method being used?

vague jolt
#

We're talking abt a cartesian product

vale wigeon
#

does your teacher award you zero points for using any method other than this?

vague jolt
#

Uhhh as long as it's a cardinality theorem it should be fine

hexed viper
#

It’s bijective with NxN

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And count that using a snake

vale wigeon
#

euler2 seems so eager to help that i think i'll let them do the talking

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and dip

vague jolt
#

Tf is a snake

hexed viper
#

A zig zag

tight locust
#

what is A1

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just 0?

vague jolt
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0

hexed viper
#

Step 1: prove N is bijective with NxN
Step 2: use the bijection between N and Q to show NxN is bijective with QxQ
Step 3: compose the compositions

vague jolt
#

Actually

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0 is just 0

tight locust
#

does N include 0 in this scenario

vague jolt
#

Nah N doesn't count 0

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For us the first natural number is 1

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Bruh where did u guys go

hexed viper
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I told you what to do

hexed viper
#

Which step can’t you do

vague jolt
#

How do I prove N is bijective with N x N LOOOL

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When N x N is a cartesian product

hexed viper
#

Construct a bijection

loud frigate
#

How do I solve -3 * 5^x = -6

ancient creek
left knot
#

can someone help explain how this formula was derived? from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_(complex_analysis)

In mathematics (particularly in complex analysis), the argument of a complex number z, denoted arg(z), is the angle between the positive real axis and the line joining the origin and z, represented as a point in the complex plane, shown as

    φ
  

{\displaystyle \varphi }

in Figure 1.
It is a multi-valued fu...

left knot
#

<@&286206848099549185> I've looked up the tangent half-angle formula, but all it is over there gives some function in terms of theta, but I want it in terms of a and b, or x and y.

I'm just trying to understand this explicit function of arg(z), and I'm getting nothing.

trail mantle
#

How do u do find the solution do this ODE

left knot
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I'm still stuck with my question...

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any help at all would be appreciated

#

all of this is just to have an accurate function to convert from cartesian to spherical coordinates, am I wasting time on a dumb method? I've been scratching my head for one day now 😅

#

the really annoying part is that arctan doesn't take into the quadrant that the coordinate is, which is why I have to go through all this trouble

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I know that it is true, but I just don't get how to derive the explicit formula from the half angle tangents

bitter sage
#

hey im trying to understand is the anwser to this 2 or d.n.e

warped mist
#

Hey there, im trying to find two polynomials, a(x) and b(x), such that

alpine sable
#

the sum of the two polynomials is going to be one catshrug

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a(x)(x^2 + 1) + b(x)(x^2 - 3x + 2) = 1

warped mist
#

But is there a method to find these?

#

Could I just set b(x) = 0 and continue from there?

alpine sable
#

you'd still be left with x^2 + 1, which isn't as the question asks

warped mist
#

hmmm

night owl
#

Does anyone here understand circuits well enough to answer questions about resistors?
DM if you do.

sly mantle
#

just ask. whoever can & wants to answer will do

#

@night owl

night owl
#

Why is it that resistors in a series circuit have identical voltage. I thought I had an explanation in my head, but it contradicted the ability of the total resistance in a parallel circuit to be less than any of the resistors.

sly mantle
#

resistors in a series circuit have identical voltage
who said this?

austere bridge
#

resistors in series with each other will have the same current, but certainly not the same voltage

strange urchin
#

The function isn't defined at that point, but the limit doesn't need the function to be defined

night owl
sly mantle
austere bridge
# night owl My bad. I was referring to the current.

My answer to your question would be, then, how could they not have identical currents? Since they're in series, there's nowhere else for the charge to go. If they weren't all equal, then charge would build up somewhere

night owl
# austere bridge My answer to your question would be, then, how could they not have identical cur...

But how is it that they halve their charge when flowing through the first resistor? Why isn't it that they reduce after the first and then as a result end up weaker when passing through the second?
I don't want the law of conservation as an answer because it seems like magic to me. When people answer with the law, I just imagine that the current somehow knew there were more resistors and that it needs to divide their charge.
I want to know why the law of conservation is a thing as well, since it is playing a part in my misunderstanding.

austere bridge
night owl
austere bridge
#

reading (I think) should be able to help you

night owl
#

ok I'll try it.

cloud portal
#
assume we'd sell 5 oranges a day @ $1, 2 oranges a day @ $2, and 1 orange a day @ $3
and i have 10 days, and 30 oranges. what is the combination of pricings that will sell all of the stock and get the highest amount of profit?```
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very simple but i can't figure it out

alpine sable
#

how could I solve this

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I drew the diagram but I don't know if there are any relations since I don't know if CM is a angle bisector or no

#

and nor do I know whether the line AB with M on it has anything special in this

noble sinew
ionic jewel
#

,w 5x+2y+z = 30 over the positive integers

noble sinew
#

this is assuming that you are not allowed to sell for example 4 oranges on a day for 1 dollar each which you might be allowed to do tbh

ionic jewel
#

idk why Wolfram didn't find any solutions

noble sinew
#

,w 5 * x+2 * y+1 * z=30 given that x>=0 and y>=0 and z>=0 and x+y+z<=10

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,w 5x+2y+1*z=30, 1x>=0, y>=0, z>=0, x+y+z<=10

ionic jewel
#

4,4,2 is the solution

noble sinew
#

There are more

ionic jewel
#

ah i guess checking them is good

#

1x + 2y + 3z maximum

#

18, 14,20, 15, bas

#

looks like x = 5, z = 5 for your $20 is the best

#

although you could make more by just not selling your whole stock :thonk:

noble sinew
#

its x * 5+2y * 2+ 3z

cloud portal
#

hold on

#

i dont want to do any form of manual input

#

i just did a simultaneous equation consisting of the following combination:
5x + 1.5y = 30,
x + y = 10,

where 1.5 (the y coefficient) is the average of the remaining amounts sold per day, and a recursive check continues doing the equation with other values

ionic jewel
#

makes so much more sebse

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,w max of 5x+4y+3z given 5x+2y+z=30, 1x>=0, y>=0, z>=0, x+y+z<=10

noble sinew
ionic jewel
#

someone who knows the proper notation probably could

cloud portal
noble sinew
#

It could in theory

#

but anyway what you posted isn't correct

cloud portal
#

sure but not in this current example

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it isn't yeah i just checked

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i have to do it programmatically

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and the issue is that the price lists change, so it doesn't necessarily have to be 3 prices, it could be 5, or 10

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so i can't do a specific equation

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i most definitely can't do random number tests

noble sinew
cloud portal
#

right but that formula still needs solving

#

you'd have two equations

noble sinew
cloud portal
#

5x + 2y + z = 30

#

x + y + z = 10

#

well <= 10 actually, yes

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i can't programmatically solve it that way, i have to have a direct method of approach either manually or in an equation form

#

how does wolfram figure it out

ionic jewel
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ur either gonna need to brute force it or learn number theory looks like

cloud portal
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how does number theory factor in here

ionic jewel
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that's where the "over the integers" stuff gets taught

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diophantine equations

cloud portal
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ok so double checked, selling the maximum amount of stock using the average sales of the remainder works fine

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the only issue is that i need to integrate the algorithm to account for the maximum profit

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i think actually the concept here might be an optimal price weight, where the optimal price is calculate beforehand and the recursive loop attempts to have the price of the sold stock approach the optimal price

alpine sable
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I have linear algebra question

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***The following vectors are given:
|f1>= ξ|e1 > +|e2>
|f2>= |e1 > +ξ|e2> +|e3>,
|f3>= |e2> +ξ|e3>

Where |e1>, |e2> and |e3> are orthonormal and ξ is a real number. For which values of ξ are |f1>, |f2> and |f3> linearly independent? For which values are they linearly dependent?***

Can someone help me out this this? I am wondering if I need to do this:

c1|f1> + c2|f12> + c3|f3> = 0
is this what i have to do? the problem is that i will end up with four scalars c1,c2,c3 and ξ
is that fine anyways?

sly mantle
livid knot
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Can someone help me understand this differentiation question please

slender forge
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This is a power rule with chain rule @livid knot

livid knot
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Ok thanks

slender forge
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Try to brute force it and see if u can get it or see where u get tripped up at

livid knot
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alright, ill let you know if i have an answer or get stuck

glad girder
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Can anyone solve this...

noble sinew
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start with placing A and B

halcyon pulsar
alpine sable
vague coral
# halcyon pulsar Help.

the complex cube root of unity are the number :
$$ \omega_k = e^{2ik\pi/3}, k \in {0, 1, 2}$$

ocean sealBOT
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Herels

alpine sable
crude moss
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pls

alpine sable
# sly mantle wdym

c1ξ + c2 = 0
c1+c2ξ+c3 = 0
c2+c3ξ = 0

just reposting because i replied to myself and all

sly mantle
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i'll repeat we must eventually do this

split into appropriate cases of the value of ξ, seeing which lead to all c's being 0 (independent) and which lead to at least one of the c's being nonzero (dependent)
i'm not really checking algebra done on the way

thorn swallow
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man

alpine sable
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i dont really know where to go from this, im rather stuck

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should i solve the three equation system i displayed above?

sly mantle
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yes

sharp patio
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i'm reviewing my notes for riemann sums, but i'm a bit stumped from looking at this. It all makes sense to me up until the line that the red arrow is marking.

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A few things I'm confused about is
Why 8/n^3 from the line before becomes 8/n^2 and how the denominators 3,2, and 6 are decided to be used
Basically I'm just confused how
8/n^3 sigma k^2 becomes
8/n^2 (n^3/3* n^2/2 * n/6)
I understand that you have to expand it and then take the limit but i can't quite visualize it

shell widget
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,w sum k^2 from k=1 to n

shell widget
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Just use this

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and also this

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,w sum k from k=1 to n

shell widget
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Factor out n from each factor, so you have (n^3)/6 [1 + (1/n)] [2 + (1/n)]

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We factor out n so that we have n^3 and then it cancels out with n^3 in the denominator

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Same for second term, factor out n, we have n^2 (1/2) [1 + (1/n)]

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sum of 1 from 1 to n is just n, and n/n = 1

sharp patio
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i don't quite see it yet but probably rereading it a couple of times will work.thanks for the help!