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wanton hill
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i can find what each side equals

woeful pulsar
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well that's some progress

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did you know you can make a regular hexagon out of 6 equilateral triangles?

wanton hill
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nope

woeful pulsar
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maybe try drawing the triangles in

wanton hill
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this makes a lot more sense now

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im gonna brb im gonna see what i can do now knowing this thx lots

lusty adder
fading zephyr
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you just have to substitute

opaque carbon
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Can someone explain this please?

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How does it go from left to the right

charred flint
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that's wrong

cunning jackal
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Can someone help me on this question? What is the probability (as a simplified fraction) of having 2 boys in a family of 4 children? (consider that there is a 50% chance of having a boy) *

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Is it 1/2 times 1/3? I'm completely stuck

alpine sable
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does the word "binomial" have any significance to you?

cunning jackal
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honesty i don't know really know what it is

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my stat teacher went over this lesson really quickly and i only understand the permutation and commutation thing

alpine sable
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alright that's good enough

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hmm not sure what explanation will be most appealing to you, but how many ways can you have a family of 4?

cunning jackal
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16 right?

alpine sable
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yes

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how many of them will have 2 boys?

cunning jackal
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8 of them right?

alpine sable
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no

cunning jackal
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oh wait is it 4

alpine sable
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no

versed talon
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A math problem.
Let's say there are certain values for each day of the week
Mon-6 Tues-8 Wed- 9 Thurs- 2 Fri-4 Sat- 10 Sun- 3
If the value for a particular day is missing let's say Wednesday, then we have to calculate that by finding the mean of the previous and the next day. I this case let's say Tuesday is 10 and Thursday is 12 then the valu for Wednesday is 11.
Now let's say there are two values missing Wednesday and Thursday in the sequence Mon-5 Tues- 8 Friday-12, the respective values of Wednesday and Thursday would be 8 and 10 respectively.
So how can we find the mean value when the adjacent value is also missing?

cunning jackal
alpine sable
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it's 4 choose 2

split trail
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can someone help with this question?

alpine sable
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also h is given which is 4cm

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so apply pythagorean theorem for that

cunning jackal
split trail
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@alpine sable would it be square root of 52

alpine sable
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no, it means [4 choose 2] of the 16 ways to have the family have exactly 2 boys

cunning jackal
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um kinda confused

alpine sable
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about what?

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what 4 choose 2 is?

cunning jackal
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yeah

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my teacher never taught anything about this

alpine sable
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lol is this application of binomial distribution?

native yew
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hey!! where can i ask for help with calculate lim ?

alpine sable
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yes but they have not learned binomial distribution so we are taking a more primitive approach

native yew
cunning jackal
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i just remember about times when it says "and" and add when it's "or"

alpine sable
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just go (c1 + c2 + c3 + c4)/16

alpine sable
cunning jackal
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oh yea

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whoops

alpine sable
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well that's all 4 choose 2 is

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a combination

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1/4 is the answer right?

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no

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👀

cunning jackal
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i already got this question wrong but i just want to understand it

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i just guessed and put 1/2 but idk how to do it

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how do i use 4 choose 2

alpine sable
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ok what parts of what I've said are still unclear to you

ocean sealBOT
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ChrisRyan

alpine sable
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@cunning jackal oh since its only four kids you can just write total number of cases

cunning jackal
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im looking at my notes and there's nothing about binomials it's just law of largen numbers, fudamental counting principle, permutation, combination

alpine sable
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all we are using is combinations

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and then figure out favourable cases

cunning jackal
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er

alpine sable
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and probably what you called fundamental counting principle, if that's multiplication principle

amber marsh
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how do u know that x is those degrees

alpine sable
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@amber marsh go other channel uwu

amber marsh
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np

alpine sable
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lemme help you there

cunning jackal
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can you tell me the formula and i can plug in the numbers

alpine sable
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desired outcomes over total outcomes

cunning jackal
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is desired outcomes 1/2?

alpine sable
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desired outcomes is an integer number

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and it's 4 choose 2

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4c2

cunning jackal
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OH

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IM SO STUPID LOL

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so its 6

alpine sable
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ye

cunning jackal
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i didnt know what c was thats why i was so confused when you said choose

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wait so now what

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whats total outcomes

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nooo its 3/8

vagrant rover
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So I've been emailing my math teacher for the past 9 days trying to get help on one single math question that I have. The school is basically stalling since she's not responding and they won't help me. I'm emailing them because I feel like a bunch of the question on some of my tests are wrong. Now I know it's against the rules to give help for tests, but I just want someone to check if the question is just literally written wrong or if there is an actual possible answer. I don't want an answer to the question, I just want someone to make sure that the question is no written wrong. I had these troubles last year and my school is fucking me over big time, I'm falling behind and I don't know what to do.

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This is the question

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This is my answer.

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Again, I don't want an answer. I just want someone to check if the question is written incorrectly if I'm just doing this wrong

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I feel like that both B and C are wrong.

alpine sable
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b is also true

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d is correct, 2nd difference is constant so this is quadratic

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ok ignore what I had actually, the way it's written is confusing

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c is probably gonna be wrong, we can either continue the pattern to the 10th term or do quadratic regression to find the function and then plug in x=10

topaz flint
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Am I good to go ahead and ask one in here?

alpine sable
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nah I got confused by it too

topaz flint
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Or are y'all still using it

alpine sable
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but the indexing starts at 0

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and the "tenth" term is indeed 114

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x=9 is tenth term

vagrant rover
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@alpine sable I'm confused, how is b correct? Can you explain?

alpine sable
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so b would be not true

vagrant rover
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Oof

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Okay so both b and c would be a correct answer?

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Which means the question is fucked

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Right?

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I'm confused

alpine sable
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yes, unless your teacher wants to argue that sequence starts with a 0th term

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but that's not a very good argument

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unless they have told you that's the language convention they are using

vagrant rover
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If it does start at the 0th term would it make the question correctly written?

alpine sable
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the quadratic that models the function is x^2+3x+6

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simplify
ab + ab
ab * ab

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i think by "10th term" they mean the output when the input is 10

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so yeah the table would start with a "0th term"

vagrant rover
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So the question is written correctly?

alpine sable
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it's written unclearly

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the phrasing is awkward, but it has a correct answer

vagrant rover
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So if we sub 0 into x we get it correctly, but if we sub it for any other number its wrong

alpine sable
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indexing doesn't really affect what the "first" term is

vagrant rover
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So how does that make it correct?

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Like shouldn't it give a correct answer for whatever number we give to x?

alpine sable
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personally if I were grading this, anyone who ran into this issue would receive full credit

vagrant rover
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My school teacher isn't helping

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She's not responding

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And the administrator is stalling and pretending like they had a different teacher check it, which I doubt.

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Let me try to find another question I think is wrong.

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I'll send in three of them to the principle

rough vigil
vagrant rover
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And ask for help

native temple
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diffrence between this and log(26)+1/6?

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like seriously

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how was I supposed to figure out dividing logarithms had some special rule?

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also what even is that rule?

alpine sable
native temple
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when I divided by six I did this

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$$ /frac log(26) + 1 /6

alpine sable
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from here to here?

native temple
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$$ /frac log(26)+1/6$$

ocean sealBOT
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Nerdy_Coder

alpine sable
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well you need to divide all of the right side by 6

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you only divided the last term by 6

native temple
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but putting everything over a fraction does that

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doesn’t it

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that’s how fraction bars work

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other wise the quadratic formula is invalid

alpine sable
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@native temple

native temple
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I thought I got the answer wrong

alpine sable
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what is the right answer supposed to be?

native temple
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it’s in this picture

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0.4025

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my ti-84 returns something different

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my scientific calulator online returns the right answer

alpine sable
native temple
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Oh snap

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it doesn’t return a different answer I just entered it wrong

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i do know how to solve this

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hate the fact I have to simplify these answers

paper temple
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Can anyone explain why for 5bi it’s 2x+8 and not 2x+4 inside the bracket

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I know it’s 2x+8 as I check the answers

scarlet flax
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someone has a idea how i can multiply two big numbers? for example 11111...(42 ones) x 11111...... (47 ones)

scarlet flax
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i mean i just need the result , is there any solver who can do that

native temple
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sure a ti-84

alpine sable
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Right

native temple
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1.234567901e87

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sorry that was wrong

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1e89

scarlet flax
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did u find a online solver or did u just put it into your ti-84 xd

native temple
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ti-84

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figure out how to inpit scientific notation

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apparently you can just add the exponents

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ehhhh

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like 42 + 47 = 89

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also

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What’s continuous interest?

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sighno likewhat is it intrest gained every second?

final crest
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Is it correct

native temple
final crest
native temple
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move

warm stirrup
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im confused by D here
the hint would seemingly suggest that he does not want us to use a normal distribution to solve this?
however if thats the case what other assumption about the distribution could we make?

velvet pelican
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@warm stirrup I think its about using the Central Limit theorem, because that is valid when the random variable is not normally distributed.

warm stirrup
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ahh okay that makes sense

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thanks ❀

alpine sable
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that would just be 1

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oh crap wait

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itd be 15 i think

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$\sum _{k=1}^nk=\frac{1}{2}n(n+1) \$
$\frac{1}{2}\cdot 5(5+1) \$

ocean sealBOT
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square

alpine sable
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u would write that

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1/2 * 5(5+1)

abstract sundial
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For -2 is the range 0?

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Is the answer 3?

misty roost
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tf is that notation

dire wren
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fr

misty roost
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"Can we have closed intervals?"
"No we have closed intervals at home"
Closed intervals at home:

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Like is that supposed to denote a set?

delicate pendant
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can someone explain this to me?

misty roost
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Just how to expand that?

delicate pendant
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simplify.

misty roost
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Just do (3h+2)(3h+2)

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And then distribute

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Do you know how to do that?

formal swift
delicate pendant
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lol for some reason I just learned it today.

misty roost
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Eh I don't think that's neccesary yet

delicate pendant
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i got 9h^3+4

misty roost
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I still don't know difference and sum of 2 cubes

delicate pendant
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i dont even know why

misty roost
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The answer is 9h^2 + 12h + 4

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Unless I'm dumb

delicate pendant
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well I added the exponents and squared

delicate pendant
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so 2 squared and 3 squared

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ok thanks.

tranquil tulip
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Open?

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if it’s open can someone help me write 4x^2 + 17x - 15 as a sum

alpine sable
tranquil tulip
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i meant product

alpine sable
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oh ok so you need to factor it

tranquil tulip
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how do u do that??

misty roost
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1(4x^2 + 17x - 15) 🧠

alpine sable
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this one factors nicely

tranquil tulip
alpine sable
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so the easiest way is just to find the zeroes

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then write it as 4(x-r1)(x-r2)

misty roost
alpine sable
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well you could do factor pairs and all that stuff

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i find it easier to just use the quadratic formula

tranquil tulip
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what’s r?

misty roost
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I generally find most problems like this are easier to solve by inspection but I guess it's ultimately personal preference

alpine sable
delicate pendant
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(4x−3)(x+5)

tranquil tulip
alpine sable
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so set 4x^2 + 17x - 15 equal to 0 then plug and chug into quadratic formula

abstract sundial
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Can someone check my work? This is inverse functions and excuse my bad hand writing.

tranquil tulip
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i don’t know how to get rid of 4x ^2

alpine sable
abstract sundial
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I was here first tho

alpine sable
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oh wait

abstract sundial
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sorry I'll wait

alpine sable
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well btw your work is correct

tranquil tulip
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4x^2 + 17x - 15 = 0?

alpine sable
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yes

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do you know how to solve quadratics?

tranquil tulip
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i think so let me try

delicate pendant
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abstract sundial
tranquil tulip
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thx

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what do i do after 4x^2 + 17x = 15 ? @alpine sable

alpine sable
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oh you want to solve by completing the square?

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then divide both sides by 4

tranquil tulip
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x^2 + 17/4x = 15/4

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@alpine sable is that right

alpine sable
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yeah

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the coefficient on the "x" term is 17/4

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so halve that, then square it

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(17/8)^2

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add that o both sides

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then factor on the left side

tranquil tulip
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what will that make the equation?

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actually nvm i figured it out, tysm

wild talon
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Any help simplifying this down to prove its an identity?

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im just not rly sure where to start

cerulean ingot
wild talon
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oh thanks xd

abstract sundial
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Is this right or no? This is inverse functions.

clever parcel
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Does anyone know how to calculate the doppler effect?

dreamy epoch
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what is 1 3/4 x 1 1/6

sly coral
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how do you solve this one ?

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Let X be a normal random variable with mean 0 and variance 1. The random variable Y is given by Y = 3x + 2. The probability density function of Y is given by...
ionic jewel
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mean 2, variance 3?

strong cobalt
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I want to post my problem but it is a wall of text bc it deals with compound probabilities. I hit a wall. If anyone can help me i would appreciate it
I need help determining prizes (number value) for each multiplier bonus while maintaining 50/50 odds. Willing to paypal/venmo/cashapp $2 .
(for a minecraft casino project)

crystal cape
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how do i solve this?

ornate hinge
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How does sqrt(m/n) simplify to msqrt(n)/n?

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I have sqrt(9/2) which simplifies to 3sqrt(2)/2 but im not sure how.

ionic jewel
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i dont think thats true

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,calc sqrt(9/2)

ocean sealBOT
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Result:

2.1213203435596
ionic jewel
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,calc 3sqrt(2)/2

ocean sealBOT
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Result:

2.1213203435596
ionic jewel
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oh im dumb i guess

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you can pull out the 3 easily

ornate hinge
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Mathway has the steps but you have to pay which is dumb

ionic jewel
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3sqrt(1/2)

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it doesnt work in general

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just does here

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sqrt(1/2) just happens to equal sqrt(2)/2

ornate hinge
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Ah thanks, kinda stupid that that solution is unique to those numbers.

ionic jewel
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... wait let me make sure it is

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might be being dumb again

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LMAO

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no it always works

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$\sqrt{\frac{1}{n}} = \frac{1}{\sqrt{n}}$

ocean sealBOT
ionic jewel
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multiply the top and bottom times \sqrt{n}

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and you get $\sqrt{n}/n$

ocean sealBOT
ionic jewel
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@ornate hinge

ornate hinge
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Thanks.

ionic jewel
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yeah my bad got confused at the beginning

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hopefullt that helps

ornate hinge
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👌

solid orchid
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please tell me this channel is in reference to the unit of measurement

ashen wave
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Im really bad at determining if we are doing a quadratic equation or linear etc in a word problem could anyone help me with that (in general)

cunning lily
ionic jewel
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do you know what vertex form is?

ashen wave
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are you talking to orbs?

cunning lily
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but i have a new one

ionic jewel
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fascinating, why did you ping me for that

alpine sable
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so where did the 0.25 come from?

glass lichen
ocean sealBOT
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moshill1

alpine sable
glass lichen
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realize the denominator

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$\frac{2-2i}{(2+2i)(2-2i)}$

ocean sealBOT
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moshill1

alpine sable
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oh i see thx

cunning lily
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i need someone smart to do this for me pleaseđŸ„ș

manic quail
# cunning lily

I could tell you how to do it, if that is okay for you too.

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As a first tip, how about you create a parabola that is shifted up by 4.

umbral folio
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Given f(x, y) = z as z = 1/x+3y
find the trace of f(x, y) in the xz-plane then draw the graph on
the domain of x E [−3, 3]

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how do I go about this?

slender marten
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The trace basically means the slice of the three-dimension plot on the y = 0 plane. In a sense you will have just z = 1/x in the three-dimensional space with the desired domain, I suppose you could just have z = 1/x on a xz plot.

umbral folio
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so I just take out the y and plot 1/x

slender marten
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Here we are basically asked for the intersection of y = f(x,z) and y = 0, so yes.

high sandal
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can someone help me find the equation?

slender marten
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You don't.

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Let me graph it for you, so you understand what it's asking for.

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Also I misread the question.

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Actually, it doesn't matter.

final crest
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How

umbral folio
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what doesnt matter?

slender marten
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I read the question wrong.

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It's fixable.

umbral folio
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so I just graph right?

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it wants me to graph on the yz axis too

alpine sable
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is this answer correct?

umbral folio
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I have no idea how to graph this

slender marten
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I've not done this in Mathematica before, so I can't just instantly hand it out.

ashen wave
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Is anyone good with quadratic equations/word problems

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The length of a tropical garden at a local conservatory is 5 feet more that its width. A walkway 2 feet wide surrounds the outside of the garden. If the total area of the walkway and garden is 594 square feet, find the dimensions of the garden

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I need help with this i have noo idea what to do

alpine sable
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should just be this no? @ashen wave

ashen wave
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yeah! actually the teacher said that was how you do it

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but i just dont get it

alpine sable
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what part dont u get

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not trying to be condescending w that question btw

ashen wave
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uhm theres a lot but can I start with that is this a quadratic equation? or like a standard or linear

alpine sable
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its a curve so standard

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yea it should b a quadratic equation

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if u move the 594 to the left side its just a standard curve graph

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im getting a negative number for this

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what am I doing wrong

ashen wave
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how did you know that tho? when we talk about the rectangle with an outside rectangle is it most likely going to be a quadratic equation?

alpine sable
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95 + 5x = 180
5/x = 180/5
95 + x = 36
-95 = 36 - 95
x = ?```
alpine sable
gray isle
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what's happening from the second to third line?

alpine sable
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ikr lol

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@gray isle

ashen wave
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ok hold on let me right this down

alpine sable
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90 + x + 5 + 4x = 180 95 + 5x = 180 5x = 180 - 95 5x = 85 x = 17

alpine sable
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oh

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thanks

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np!

gray isle
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if you were attempting to divide both sides by 5, you should actually divide both sides by 5

alpine sable
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mfw trying to get my own help turns into helping ppl

gray isle
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instead of phase out the 95 and being it back

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later

ashen wave
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Vlyni, how do you know what the x and y represent?

alpine sable
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im not sure what you mean, the x represents the width in this and the y is just f(x) if you put it into a graphing calculator

ashen wave
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yeah but how did you know that by just looking at the word problem

alpine sable
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i have to solve it by setting a certain value as x. you don't really know it would be a quadratic equation until you actually do the problem and then solve for x

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like you see my graph up there

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initially the equation isn't a quadratic formula

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but after i listed out the length and width lengths

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i then moved it to (x+4) (x+9) = 594

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like i think the key to this problem isn't thinking "oh how can i apply the quadratic formula to this" its "ok im gonna set a side as my variable then visualize the problem and then write out an equation and start from there"

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if that makes sense

ashen wave
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alright ill try using that mentality from now on xD

alpine sable
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yeye lol

remote hound
slender marten
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@umbral folio Finally managed to figure out why it kept plotting z = 0 instead of y = 0. The trace is in red.

umbral folio
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so what if I set x to 0?

slender marten
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What do you mean?

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x = 0 is undefined.

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I had to exclude this from the plot since it just produced a weird plane on the plot.

umbral folio
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oh

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so thats the chart for 1/3y?

slender marten
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Damn, that's a beautiful plot.

umbral folio
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how come it looks the same as if I did it for x

ionic jewel
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what software is that?

slender marten
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Mathematica.

ionic jewel
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why do my mathmatica plots look ugly thonk

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thanks

slender marten
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It's effectively the plot of z = 1/x + 3y (excluding x = 0), the parametric equation <x,0,1/x> and the plane y = 0.

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I went through extensive effort to make it not ugly.

umbral folio
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hmm

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maybe im overthinking it but I'm confused

slender marten
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A trace is just the intersection of the plane y = 0 and the surface z = 1/x +3y.

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The intersection is the curve in red.

umbral folio
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I get that the chart is the red lines

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but if I did the opposite it still looks the same?

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im lost the more i think about it

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im use to just plotting stuff as y = rather than having a z access

slender marten
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@ionic jewel This is the bog standard lol.

umbral folio
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so im probably just not understanding anything

ionic jewel
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yeah thats what mine look like lol

slender marten
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z = 1/x + 3y just allocated a z value to each coordinate (x,y) on the xy-plane

umbral folio
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I see

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so if y is always 0 then

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what happens when y is 0

slender marten
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the xz plane is the flat surface where y = 0 on the entire surface.

remote hound
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can someone hel;p

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pelase

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HELP

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PLS

slender marten
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This is the case for y = 0.

umbral folio
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then the points never go above 0?

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wouldnt that be a straight line

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i dont know why im not understanding

narrow vector
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I need some help on trying to find the inverse for this.

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I have it right now as

umbral folio
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whats a good graphing tool

narrow vector
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x-3=-3/4(2^x-5)

slender marten
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Since we can never have x = 0, we effectively have a plane, x = 0, where no point exists.

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@ionic jewel If you wish to have the code to manipulate it in the future, sadly Mathematica refuses to use proper axes, so I have to force the axis origin to be (0,0,0) and manually plane the x,y and z as text on the plot.
function =
Plot3D[{z = 1/x + 3 y}, {x, -3, 3}, {y, -3, 3}, PlotPoints -> 50,
ExclusionsStyle -> {None, Black}, ClippingStyle -> None,
PlotStyle -> Opacity[0.3], Mesh -> None, AxesOrigin -> {0, 0, 0},
Boxed -> False, Exclusions -> {x == 0},
ExclusionsStyle -> {None, None},
AxesStyle -> Directive[Opacity[0.9], AbsoluteThickness[2]],
Ticks -> None]
intersection =
ParametricPlot3D[{x, 0, 1/x }, {x, -3, 3}, PlotStyle -> Red]
axes = Graphics3D[{Text["x", {3.5, 0, 0}], Text["y", {0, 3.5, 0}],
Text["z", {0, 0, 31}]}]
plane = ContourPlot3D[y == 0, {x, -3, 3}, {y, -3, 3}, {z, -30, 30},
Mesh -> None, AxesOrigin -> {0, 0, 0}, Boxed -> False,
ContourStyle -> Directive[LightGray]]
Show[{function, plane, intersection, axes}]

slender marten
ionic jewel
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thank you!

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ill go ahead and steal that

slender marten
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If you get stuck on anything, you'll just have to ping me.

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It took me a while to figure out that trick.

umbral folio
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im using geogebra but dont get it

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it just makes a red square

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nvm fixed it

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or maybe not

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im confused

slender marten
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The best you can do I think is plot z = 1/x + 3y and y = 0.

umbral folio
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1/3x gets me a straight line

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any number I add makes it a line

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is that right?

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because just 1/x isnt a line

slender marten
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1/3x?

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What are you doing?

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I found a way to do parametric curves in Geogebra though: (x,0,1/x)

umbral folio
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idk..

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im trying to graph with y = 0

slender marten
#

Are you using Geogebra 3D?

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Just input these three things:
z = 1/x + 3y, y = 0 and (x,0,1/x).

umbral folio
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I see

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how do I make sure its facing the right way

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i want it flat

slender marten
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A trace is the intersection of two planes. the zx plane the question mentions is the plane y = 0.

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You want to view the trace is 2 dimensions?

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If so just plot z = 1/x on a 2D plotter.

umbral folio
#

why does 1/x and 1/y look identical

slender marten
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It's just effectively a different letter.

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z = 1/x and z = 1/y will not be the same though.

umbral folio
#

it does look the same for me

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on a 2d grapher

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which is probably wrong

remote hound
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help

umbral folio
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but idk what to use

slender marten
#

No, that's to be expected.

umbral folio
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ok so thats right?

slender marten
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In my view, it doesn't really make sense to view the trace on a 2D plot.

umbral folio
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well Im suppose to draw it

slender marten
#

With pen and paper?

umbral folio
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yes

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in 2D

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it says to sketch it in 2D on the domain -3, 3

slender marten
#

Best we can do really.

umbral folio
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so both would look similar

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thats weird..

slender marten
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I wish I knew what was going through your mind.

umbral folio
#

same

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whatever

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if I wanted to do z = 1/(x+3y) what shape would that be

slender marten
#

Plug it into Geogebra and see.

umbral folio
#

it gives me nothing

slender marten
#

Yes it does. Just give me screenshots of what you are entering.

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It's the only way I can figure out what is going wrong.

umbral folio
#

and I get a blank graph

oak chasm
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,w plot 1/(x + 3y)

ocean sealBOT
oak chasm
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@umbral folio ^

slender marten
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z = 1/(x+3y).

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1/(x+3y) alone gives me a graph though.

umbral folio
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what shape is that

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im doing this all wrong nvm

slender marten
#

Am I the only one mind boggled?

umbral folio
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no

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i am too

slender marten
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I mean with what you're doing.

umbral folio
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ok ill explain since im lost

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z = 1/x+3y I have to set z to 1 then solve for y and find the object

slender marten
#

Why?

umbral folio
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I dont know...

slender marten
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The xz plane is y = 0.

umbral folio
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its what it wants me to do

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its a 3 part question

slender marten
#

Is this a new question?

umbral folio
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yes

slender marten
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Well, you can not expect me to know you've changed question.

umbral folio
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sorry

slender marten
#

Now it wants the trace generated by the intersection of the surfaces z = 1/x + 3y and z = 1?

whole dagger
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how

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how am i here

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oh wait nmv

umbral folio
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z = 1/x + 3y is the original

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its asking for the level curve when z = 1 and solve for y

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and wants to know the shape

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it says it will be a two dimensional object

slender marten
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z = f(x,y) = 1 is what it's asking for.

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It's basically asking for the surface where f(x,y) is one all over it.

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1/x + 3y = 1, solve this 3y = 1 - 1/x, simplify further to give y = 1/3 - 1/(3x) = (1/3)(1-1/x).
Basically we will have the surface y = 1/3 - 1/(3x).

umbral folio
#

well z = 1/(x+3y)

slender marten
#

Just modify the logic then.

umbral folio
#

so y = (1-x)/3 I think

slender marten
#

z = 1/(x+3y) = 1, for x + 3y not equally zero. This implies that x + 3y = 1 or x = 1-3y.

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Yes, that too.

umbral folio
#

thats not really a shape though

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I graph and its just a line

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,w plot y = (1-x)/3

slender marten
#

You can plot this line on the usual xy plane but then in three dimensions it will just be extended vertically upwards and vertically downwards and see where it intersects your original plot of z = 1/(x+3y).

umbral folio
#

so I need to do this on a 3d plot

slender marten
#

Yes.

remote hound
umbral folio
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I just get a square

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is that right...?

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its a flat square

slender marten
#

See, where they intersect, the value of f(x,y) is always one.

umbral folio
#

so its a square?

slender marten
#

I'm literally doing nothing special. Ensure you are not trying to do this on the 2D version.

umbral folio
#

yeah thats what Im doing

slender marten
#

Do you see where they intersect?

umbral folio
#

I just dont know what I'm looking at

slender marten
#

The light blue plane intersects the orange curved surface on a infinitely long line.

umbral folio
#

so..

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I get that theres an intersection but this doesnt look like a shape at all

slender marten
#

A line is a shape.

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The level curve is this intersection.

umbral folio
#

so I need to plot z = 1/(x+3y) and y = (1-x/3) and the shape is formed from that

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which is a ... triangle? im not sure

slender marten
#

Yes. The key to this is the term "level curve" the surface of intersection is a straight curve, a straight line.

umbral folio
#

so this is my shape?

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or maybe not

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this isnt working

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i guess ill just give up

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thanks for the help

slender marten
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Plotting in 2D again.

remote hound
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stabulo can you help me next please

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Im sorry for spamming

umbral folio
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isnt it asking for a 2 dimensional object

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What type of two dimensional object is this (parabola, circle, etc.) is what its asking

slender marten
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A curve can exist in three dimension space.

umbral folio
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when I plot in 3d its just a mess im not sure what im looking at definitely no shape

slender marten
#

It's not the prettiest plot but this is what it's after.

umbral folio
#

but how is that a shape

slender marten
#

It's a line. A 1 dimensional line existing in three dimensions.

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On this 1 dimensional line, f(x,y) always has the value of 1.

balmy oxide
#

can you guys help me with a form?

slender marten
#

Hmm.

native temple
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how to solve using gauss elimination?

slender marten
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Write it in matrix form, then perform row operations until you reduce the matrix to row echelon form, meaning below the diagonal you have zeroes. Then perform back substitution.

indigo glade
#

You can also use the reduced row echelon form and have the solution directly within the matrix

slender marten
#

That would be Gauss-Jordan elimination though.

indigo glade
#

Yup

slender marten
#

I guess both is definitely viable, you could even calculate the inverse matrix, assuming it exists.

native temple
#

form

slender marten
#

Start performing row operations then.

native temple
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i’m stuck

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I have it in echelon form

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(this seems harder then just elimination

slender marten
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It means when you have it in row echelon form, you can read off the z value directly, the you use the second line and input the value of z, working backwards in a sense, hence the name back substitution.

native temple
#

I have faith this will get easier....

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oh

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okay how to get this to reudueced row esxhelon

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this eliminations seems difficult

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like solving a rubik’s cube without a guide

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anyway

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ummm an you help

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like from my textbook

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(Unrelated to acellus)

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It used the analogy of a game to explain how to solve this

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and said the operations you can do are addiction, multiplication, and swapping rows

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by extension of this you can suntract divide and idk what swapping rows can do

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so help

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I’m not sure how to get this to all sides have 0s

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except for the diaganol

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did someone leave?

slender marten
#

I do.

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Paul's online notes used to have Linear Algebra too. This is the document of it that was given to me a while ago. I got through about a third of it and it was very good @native temple .

alpine sable
#

Does anyone here study pure math?

slender marten
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Everything is divisible by 5 and n, factor out 5n, maybe you can do more after this step.

native temple
remote shard
slender marten
remote shard
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can someone explain why they used the taylor approxmation of e^x

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and not plugged in the numbers to the taylor approx formula

slender marten
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They used $y(x) = \sum_{n=0}^{3}f^{(n)}(0) \frac{x^n}{n!}$.

remote shard
#

no i get that

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but why

slender marten
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The end of the question says use a third order Taylor approximation.

remote shard
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yes taylor approximation

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taylor approx =an x^n

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that's the taylor approx of e^x no?

slender marten
#

$e^x = \sum_{n=0}^{\infty} \frac{x^n}{n!}$.

ocean sealBOT
#

stabulo

remote shard
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i know they used e^x

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but why

ocean sealBOT
#

stabulo

remote shard
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why not plug in the values into the formula

slender marten
#

e^x has f^(n)(0) is one in every case but in yours it's not.

remote shard
#

?

slender marten
#

Do not offer to pay, this is bannable.

flint remnant
#

?

slender marten
#

It's fine, you can delete it, just beware.

remote shard
#

why would you use the equation of e^x in the first place

slender marten
#

They didn't, it's just similar.

remote shard
#

oh it represents position pretty well

slender marten
#

All Maclaurin series will be similar just with different constants.

remote shard
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they used e^x but plugged in the f values at each derivative

slender marten
#

e^x has a Maclaurin series with every constant being one.

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They didn't.

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Ok, I see your confusion now.

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A Maclaurin series assumes every series can be written in this form:

remote shard
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taylor, yup

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maclaurin is when a=0

alpine sable
#

@slender marten

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Your a professor???

slender marten
#

For f = e^x it just happens that every constant you would get from every derivative of f you will get 1, therefore you get x^n/n!. For yours you need to find f(0), f'(0), f''(0) and f'''(0) but these do not give one like e^x does.

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I'm not, no. @alpine sable

remote shard
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yes i get that

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but it follows the pattern

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but why are they trying to mimic graph of e^x

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thank you whoever deleted that

slender marten
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They aren't.

remote shard
#

isn't that what a approximation is for?

slender marten
#

The taylor series basically assumes you can write every equation as a power series of the form: $$\sum_{n=0}^{\infty}a_n x^n.$$

ocean sealBOT
#

stabulo

remote shard
#

yes exactly

slender marten
#

You can find that a_n is given by f^(n)(a)/n!.

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It just happens that e^x gives the term a_n x^n/n!.

remote shard
#

so my question is

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why e^x

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where in my question does it point to using e^x

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where it has /n!

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wait

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i read that wrong sorry

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so lets start over

alpine sable
#

Wait stabulo isn’t emeritus a former professor

remote shard
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we need to find a_n

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nevermind

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everything just came at once

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thank you

slender marten
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Nice. 🙂

remote shard
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that was very helpful

slender marten
#

They made new roles for recognition or something.

alpine sable
#

Oh

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Are you a college teacher

remote shard
#

he just said no

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stabulo

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why are you using that formula though

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isn't to test for radius of convergence

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f^(n)(a)/n!

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oh nvm

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i'm thinking of the wrong thing

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you're right

slender marten
#
slender marten
native temple
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hello stabulo

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while nothing is happening

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ummmmm to get gaussian elimination do i just have to practice to get to unit diagonal form or eschelon form?

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because it seems complicated to do so

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as I have to figure out

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like how that works

tender saffron
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good morning

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how to do this

native temple
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Umm ask somewhere else

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thanks

ionic jewel
native temple
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oh it seems difficult

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like with the regression problem I’m doing

ionic jewel
#

practice makes perfect

native temple
#

it said use a calulator but I want to quic=ckly solve 3 systems by hand

ionic jewel
#

just use a calculator lol

native temple
#

so maybe matrices will work

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sigh

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maybe later

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@ionic jewel ummm how to solve this

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I suck at solving three equationmms

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so hard to keep track

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on paper

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(not on whiteboard thoug h

slender marten
amber mountain
#

is anyone good with trig and the trigonometric functions?

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ive been on a problem for 40 mins and cant find anything to help me with it

alpine sable
amber mountain
woeful pulsar
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try drawing the unit circle

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and plotting where theta seems to be

amber mountain
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its quad 1 i think

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but i looked up a problem similar and they said 3

woeful pulsar
#

draw a diagram?

alpine sable
#

do you know pythagorean identity + quotient identities and the relationship between the quadrant of the angle and the signs of the trig functions?

amber mountain
#

I plotted (pi,3pi/2)

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Not too sure what that means dan

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but im familiar with unit circle

alpine sable
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the unit circle has a radius of 1

amber mountain
#

Oh ok so it is quadrant 3

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which makes sin negative i think

alpine sable
#

cos(theta)=-3/4 means the x-coordinate of the point on the unit circle is -3/4

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Oh ok so it is quadrant 3
which makes sin negative i think
correct

amber mountain
#

I'm just so confused with how to find the other trig functions

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since cos is negative

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am I suppose to square cos to rid the negative?

woeful pulsar
#

you reference your unit circle diagram

amber mountain
#

in what way?

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so do I not square cos to get rid of the negative?

woeful pulsar
#

the unit circle diagram tells you if the sin or cos is negative

amber mountain
#

I already know the cod is negative

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its given in the problem

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-3/4

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however since thats all im given i'm not sure if the A or H is negative

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im just gonna leave it blank its too confusing and not worth working another 20 mins for the pt

woeful pulsar
#

what do you mean A or H?

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the sin and cos are just coordinates of the point

amber mountain
#

Adjacent and hypotenuse

woeful pulsar
#

from your unit circle all we have are the coordinates of the point

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there's not really adjacent and hypotenuse

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the point is always distance 1 from the origin

amber mountain
#

is it the x,y,r then?

woeful pulsar
#

given a point (cos(theta), sin(theta)) on the unit circle

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well x=cos(theta) and y=sin(theta), that's all to it

amber mountain
#

but since cos is negative how do i know if x or r is negative

slender marten
#

The theta angle giving you a negative cos output will be the part of the circle in either the second or third quadrant.

amber mountain
#

I know its in the third

slender marten
#

It's between pi and 3pi/2 then.

amber mountain
#

I just dont know if the numerator or denominator is negative

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in cosine theta

slender marten
#

Oh, do you mean via SOH CAH TOA?

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I don't think you give A and H a negative sign, they are lengths so they are always positive. You just use this additional knowledge to determine the angle it corresponds to and the sign it gives.

amber mountain
#

But it says in the given that cosine is negative

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meaning either the denominator and numerator is negative, right?

#

is this problem complicated or easy because I've spent too much time on it to want to spend a lot more

patent burrow
#

i have the formulas and all but I'm a little confused on how I would convert this

alpine sable
#

so solve for r and cos(theta) then plug in

patent burrow
#

how would i do that?

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just

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sqrt(x^2+y^2) = 5cos(theta)

alpine sable
#

now you have everything in terms of x and y

patent burrow
#

so cos(theta) = x/sqrt(x^2+y^2)?

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oh i see what you mean

#

so now there's sqrt(x^2+y^2) = 5(x/sqrt(x^2+y^2))

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and then x^2+y^2=5x

alpine sable
#

perfect

patent burrow
#

is that it?

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oh i guess it was

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thank you :D

slender marten
#

Then (x-5/2)^2 + y^2 = 25/4 and you have the form of a circle!

upbeat isle
#

is 3sin(x)+7=0 undefined or am i dumb

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like what is arcsin -7/3 thats nota thing rite

slender marten
#

If in serious double plot it. 🙂

lusty tiger
#

I need some help with rational expressions
I'm feel like I'm doing it right until I realize I can't cancel stuff
Heres an example:

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fuck wrong image

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i mean i feel like i'm simplifying it right but im supposed to cancel it out and make it one fraction

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sorry for the handwriting im on a mouse

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

oak chasm
#

@lusty tiger OK, so first, you have $$\frac{36x^2 - 25}{12x - 10} \cdot \frac{x^2 + x}{24x^2 + 20x}$$

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

oak chasm
#

What's the GCD of 36 and 25?

lusty tiger
#

ohoooo
lmfao

oak chasm
#

If you get stuck, let me know.

lusty tiger
#

i thought it was -20

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so i was doing 4x6 and 4x5

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so 1

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

oak chasm
#

Right, so you can't pull out a factor that way.

lusty tiger
#

yeah i see that

oak chasm
#

OK, so do you have a difference of squares?

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

lusty tiger
#

(6x +5)(6x - 5)

oak chasm
#

Right!

lusty tiger
#

so that cancels out the denominator: (6x-5)

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

oak chasm
#

OK, factor the denominator.

lusty tiger
#

2(6x-5)

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

lusty tiger
#

right

oak chasm
#

OK, what about the right part?

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

lusty tiger
#

x(x+1)

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

#

Chai T. Rex

lusty tiger
#

4x(6x+5)

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wait you dont need to flip the other side?

oak chasm
#

No, we still haven't combined them. See the dot in the middle.

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$$\frac{36x^2 - 25}{12x - 10} \cdot \frac{x^2 + x}{24x^2 + 20x}$$
$$\frac{(6x + 5)\cancel{(6x - 5)}}{2\cancel{(6x - 5)}} \cdot \frac{\cancel{x}(x + 1)}{4\cancel{x}(6x + 5)}$$

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

oak chasm
#

So let's cancel what we have so far.

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

oak chasm
#

Now, this is multiplication (the dot in the middle) of two fractions.

lusty tiger
#

x+1/8 ?

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oh

oak chasm
#

Yes, that's right.

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You multiply the numerators together.

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You multiply the denominators together.

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No flipping (that's dividing two fractions, you flip the second one).

lusty tiger
#

I see

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Now that I know that let me try one real quick

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

oak chasm
#

That's the full working.

lusty tiger
#

ok that makes so much more sense

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thank you so much

oak chasm
#

You're welcome.

lusty tiger
#

So wait, I also have division ones on my worksheet
For those I would just flip the second side and do the same thing?

oak chasm
#

Yes, $\frac{a}{b} \div \frac{c}{d} = \frac{a}{b} \cdot \frac{d}{c} = \frac{ad}{bc}$

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

oak chasm
#

Wait

lusty tiger
#

like this correct?

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thats supposed to be (x+1)(x-1)

oak chasm
#

@lusty tiger Almost.

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You have the right idea.

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

$\frac{x(x + 1)}{6x^2} \cdot \frac{(x - 1)(x + 1)}{(x + 6)(x - 1)}$
lusty tiger
#

idk why i added x^2 either

gusty pawn
oak chasm
#

@gusty pawn Oh, OK. Thanks 🙂

lusty tiger
oak chasm
#

It is, after you flip the second fraction.

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Division is just multiplication by reciprocal.

lusty tiger
#

but what you wrote is not flipped

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

lusty tiger
#

I'm not even going to try to use the math bot, but the origional was:
x^2-1 / x^2+5x-6
so wouldnt it be:
x^2+5x-6/x^2-1

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

lusty tiger
#

so then (im going to try this)
$\frac{x}{6x^2} \cdot (x+6)$

ocean sealBOT
oak chasm
#

$$\frac{x^2 + x}{6x^2} \divisionsymbol \frac{x^2 - 1}{x^2 + 5x - 6}$$
$$\frac{x^2 + x}{6x^2} \cdot \frac{x^2 + 5x - 6}{x^2 - 1}$$
$$\frac{x(x + 1)}{6x^2} \cdot \frac{(x + 6)(x - 1)}{(x - 1)(x + 1)}$$
$$\frac{\cancel{x}\cancel{(x + 1)}(x + 6)\cancel{(x - 1)}}{6x^{\cancel{2}}\cancel{(x - 1)}\cancel{(x + 1)}}$$
$$\frac{x + 6}{6x}$$

ocean sealBOT
#

Chai T. Rex

oak chasm
#

You're almost there.

lusty tiger
#

ah i get it

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the x cancels out the x^2 making it 6x

oak chasm
#

Yes, that's right.

lusty tiger
#

ok this is easier than I thought

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thank you

oak chasm
#

You're welcome.

plucky cipher
#

Can you help me with this

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I’m confused anf just need references because all the questions next are like this

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<@&286206848099549185>

upbeat gorge
#

Do you know trigonometric functions

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Are you allowed to use calc or not

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Also analyze the figure

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(You don’t need calcu btw if you know sum and difference identities)

plucky cipher
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I am aloud to use a calc

alpine sable
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theta=75 degrees
opposite side=12
adjacent side = ?
can you come up with an equation using a trig function that relates theta, opposite, and adjacent?

upbeat gorge
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ah ok

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ye follow dans

plucky cipher
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No I think I know the answer just every single time I put it in it’s wrong

alpine sable
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what did you try?

upbeat gorge
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What’s your solution

alpine sable
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do you have your calculator set to degrees?

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make sure its in degree mode not radian mode

plucky cipher
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I do

upbeat gorge
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i bet ik your mistake but i don’t want to guess

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What function did you use

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actually just show your solution

plucky cipher
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I got 44.78 etc

upbeat gorge
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ye definitely not

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what did you do

plucky cipher
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Idk bro I’m really tired

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I did 12tan(75)

alpine sable
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ok so we know that tan(theta)=opposite/adjacent

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plug in what we know

alpine sable
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for problems like this always use the definitions of sin, cos, tan, and plug in what you know, don't just try to guess the formula

plucky cipher
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So can you like write down what to do

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I’m a visual learner anf my brain hurts rn so I’m having a very hard time understanding lol

alpine sable
plucky cipher
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Ok so it’s tan

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Right?

worthy verge
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Ye

upbeat gorge
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it is tan

worthy verge
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Look

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Every time

upbeat gorge
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so derive an equation for the adjacent

worthy verge
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Slanted =hypot

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The side which is directly opposite of the angle is the "opposite side

alpine sable
worthy verge
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And the closest side is adjacent

alpine sable
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plug and chug into the tan formula

worthy verge
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Just do tan75=x/12

plucky cipher
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Yeah I know that but now how do I find my formala to get my answer

worthy verge
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Thats ur missing side

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Idk what the number is

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But thats your side

alpine sable
worthy verge
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Right

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Oops

oak chasm
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@worthy verge No, "the hypotenuse is across from the right angle" is a better way to remember it. Sometimes, diagrams can make the hypotenuse nonslanted.

worthy verge
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Tan(?)=opp/adj

worthy verge
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Sorry worded it wrong

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It takes practice

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After awhile it'll be a breeze

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Trust trust

alpine sable
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SOH CAH TOA will solve all problems of this type

lapis fjord
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X= 12/tan(75)

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I think

upbeat gorge
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ye

plucky cipher
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Thank you

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I deadass got the answer first but forgot to round

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Holy fuck I’m a dumbass

lapis fjord
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How do you make it a radical tho

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🧐

alpine sable
lapis fjord
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Like that one box arrow thing

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@alpine sable

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The square root thing

alpine sable
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how do you make what a radical?

oak chasm
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$\sqrt{x}$

ocean sealBOT
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Chai T. Rex

oak chasm
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@lapis fjord You mean that? ^

lapis fjord
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Yep

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How would you make the answer of this in that thing.

X= 12/tan(75)

oak chasm
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,w tan(75 degrees)

ocean sealBOT
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@lapis fjordI think this way:

$$x = \frac{12}{\tan(75^{\circ})}$$
$$x = \frac{12}{2 + \sqrt{3}}$$
$$x = \frac{12(2 - \sqrt{3})}{(2 + \sqrt{3})(2 - \sqrt{3})}$$
$$x = 12(2 - \sqrt{3})$$

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,w 12/tan(75 degrees)

ocean sealBOT
oak chasm
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Hmm, that's interesting.

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No, it's $12(2 - \sqrt{3})$. For whatever reason, it's not being exact.

ocean sealBOT
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Chai T. Rex

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Chai T. Rex

lapis fjord
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Is the square root of 10.3 a rounded answer?

oak chasm
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,calc sqrt(10.3) - 12*(2 - sqrt(3))

ocean sealBOT
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Result:

-0.0060290019972311
oak chasm
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Yes, if you want something inside a square root, that seems fine.

lapis fjord
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Ok

narrow vector
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i need help on a question

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im trying to find the inverse of this equation

oak chasm
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Solve for $y$:
$$x = -\frac{3}{4}\left(2^{y - 5}\right) + 3$$

ocean sealBOT
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Chai T. Rex

worthy verge
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Why would you change the x value on left to y

narrow vector
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to find the inverse

worthy verge
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Oh right

narrow vector
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right now I have my equation set up as

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x-3=-3/4(2^y-5)

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i don’t know what to do afterwards

ocean sealBOT
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Chai T. Rex

narrow vector
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would that be