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yeah

tiny sky
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mb i can't read lol

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i thought exactly the same before reading properly

charred cloud
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can u explain why

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that's just what it means, if they are distinguishable
there's dice 1,2 and 3, you put them in order 1-2-3, and only then it counts as a match

charred cloud
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mhm

prime badge
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you can divide 216 by 46656, nothing wrong with that

charred cloud
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how did u land at 6^3

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cos theres 6 options for first,second and 3rd

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so 666?

prime badge
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yes

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for part b i would divide by 46656 as well
one pair has 90 possibilities

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(6×5) × 3

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giving 90×90 outcomes

charred cloud
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no but since

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in part a

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me and my friend have a slight doubt

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we're only expecting numbers even though theyre distinguishable right

so example:
[assume each colour corresponds to the die roll]

4,3,1(r,gb) is also the same as 4,3,1[g,b,r]

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i get what ur saying but i kinda get what hes saying too

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im just hella lost now

prime badge
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that's what i expect b to mean

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yes, it's all confusing

charred cloud
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but if theyre indistinguishable( identical)

how are there 6^6 total possible outcomes

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like in real life, if you throw two indistinguishable dice, they have double the chance to show 1,2 compared to 2,2

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idk how to explain

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if you intepret it in a way where those have the same probability, this means you;re throwing some magical dice that don;t behave normally

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and i can;t say for certain they don't expect the magical answer

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but usually they don't

charred cloud
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hm

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i see

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tysm

prime badge
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so i'm interpreting it like the dice still roll one of 46656 outcomes equally likely, you treat 2,1,2 and 2,2,1 as the same, but the dice don't

charred cloud
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yeah im guessing thats what my friend meant too

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why is (a) 1/6^3 again

prime badge
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i don't know

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there's 216 outcomes because each dice rolls one of 6 numbers

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we can tell them all apart

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so there's no complicaited stuff

charred cloud
charred cloud
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he was so ready to prove chung and keller wrong

prime badge
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it's the wording of the quesiotn that's the problem

charred cloud
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yeah thats what he said too

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tysm for helping

prime badge
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it says same numbers, so, you could even expect it to mean stuff like 1,1,1

charred cloud
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mhm

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torpid dirge
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why cant H int K be 6?

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its a subgroup of H and K which are sylow

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hi snow

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keen plinth
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its cardinality is a power of 2

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how did we get that

keen plinth
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H is sylow

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:(

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elab more

keen plinth
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|H| = 2^n

torpid dirge
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yes

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in this case 2^4

torpid dirge
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or why does the intersection have to be a power of 2

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because H \cap K is a subgroup of H

torpid dirge
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OH yea

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intersection is a subgroup of H

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thanks

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full crystal
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full crystal
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How to do 19 and 20

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charred pilot
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Talking about 19

full crystal
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Find g(x) is usually how I start

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but

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It’s already found

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So I would probably start by subtracting them in the same equation

charred pilot
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It’s asking about the domain for f + g, start with adding together function f and function g

full crystal
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Oh yeah I’m looking at the top

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lol

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Wouldn’t that just be 5x-5+(4/x+6) ?

charred pilot
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Yes

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But combine the terms for sake of simplicity

full crystal
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You can’t unless we destroy the fraction

charred pilot
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Just put it all into 1 big fraction

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So ((5x-5)(x+6)+4)/(x+6)

full crystal
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So we put f(x) +4 all over x+6?

charred pilot
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Yes

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But f is multiplied by x+6

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That’s how we can combine the two

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The question is asking for domain, do you know what that is?

full crystal
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The x value

charred pilot
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What does it mean for x to belong to all reals or for it not to?

full crystal
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it’s not when it’s in a denominator

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it is in almost every other instance

charred pilot
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I’m not talking about the function itself I mean on a graph

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Look at the option choices

full crystal
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It’s c

charred pilot
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How would the graph be different from each of those

full crystal
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cuz it can’t be -6

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Because that would make the denominator 0

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which it cannot be

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right?

charred pilot
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And why not

full crystal
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Cuz anything divided by zed is undefined

charred pilot
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Yes

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So C is the answer

full crystal
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but how does it look like in the beginning

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when u combine

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can u show

charred pilot
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You mean f + g?

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((5x-5)(x+6)+4)/(x+6)

$\frac{(5x-5)(x+6)+4}{x+6}$
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full crystal
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yeah that

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where did the x+6 come from

charred pilot
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In the numerator?

full crystal
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Yah

charred pilot
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Fractions combine over the same denominator

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So I multiplied the f function by x+6 over x+6

full crystal
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why what

charred pilot
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Why which part

full crystal
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(x+6) on top

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I don’t get why you combine

charred pilot
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$(5x-5) + \frac{4}{x+6} = (5x-5) \cdot \frac{x+6}{x+6} + \frac{4}{x+6} $

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This is what I did

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For the function f

full crystal
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Why

charred pilot
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So that it has x+6 as a denominator

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To combine with function g

full crystal
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What happens to the 4

charred pilot
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Nothing

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Unless you simplify the numerator

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But you don’t have to

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Here’s the whole f + g

full crystal
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why is there 2 now

charred pilot
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That’s f + g

full crystal
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2 denominators of x+6

charred pilot
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Because that’s before I combined them

full crystal
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You split?

charred pilot
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no

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The left term is f

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The right term is g

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I am adding them

full crystal
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Yeah but how did x+6 come out

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and be over itself

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And why did the 4 seperate

charred pilot
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What do you mean x+g?

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Nothing separated

full crystal
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I meant x+6

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how did that come out of nowhere and seperate into that over itself and 4 over x+6

charred pilot
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Nothing separated

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The right term is g

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That’s just what g is, 4/x+6

full crystal
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How

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I just don’t get the x+6/x+6

charred pilot
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$(5x-5) + \frac{4}{x+6} = (5x-5) \cdot \frac{x+6}{x+6} + \frac{4}{x+6}$

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charred pilot
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So I am just multiplying by 1

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To rearrange

full crystal
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I guess

charred pilot
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no guessing

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That’s what I am doing

full crystal
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I know but I guess that’s how it works

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I don’t see the logic

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Moving into 20

charred pilot
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Sorry I can’t help right now

full crystal
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Sorry I have a girlfriend

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Residential math virtuoso

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Hey guys. Im trying to get ahead of everyone in my Algebra 2 class by doing my teachers calculus problems but the problem is... I dont know anything about calculus. Can somebody help me out and maybe help me understand it all?

livid sage
# wet turret Hey guys. Im trying to get ahead of everyone in my Algebra 2 class by doing my t...

to understand integration by parts, one should probably first understand integration;
to understand integration; one should probably first understand differentiation;
to understand differentiation, one should probably first understand limits; etc (list not fully inclusive)

i believe you are missing some requisites to be doing this

try looking at math on khan academy to get a feel for how math curriculum is structured

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khan academy and other sources can help build fundamentals

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but I definitely recommend having a very solid understanding of algebra and differentiation before going to integration

wet turret
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I see

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So you guys recommend i do a bit on khan academy before i get to advanced stuff like this

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as far as I’m concerned math education before late uni level isn’t something that needs a standard attached to it

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I see

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tan^-1 root3= 1/3pie

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tan repeates every pie

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so i tried adding and taking way pie from 1/3pie

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but thats grater than the window

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Where did the *8 come from??

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The chain rule the newton one says to multiply by the derivative of the inner function

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The derivative of sin(8x) is cos(8x)

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So why is there a times 8

ocean whale
neat folio
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derivative of sin(8x) is 8cos(8x)

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given by the g'(x) in the chain rule

ocean whale
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You need to find the derivative of 8x as well

novel remnant
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Why do you touch that?

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So the derivative of sin(7) is cos()?

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I thought you don’t touch what’s inside the parentheses cuz it’s being calculated by the trig function

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And the derivative of sin(x) is cos(1)?

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Ohh wait these are three functions??

ocean whale
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sin(7) is a constant

novel remnant
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How tho

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It’s a function

ocean whale
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No it's not

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A function takes an input

novel remnant
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Isn’t sin a trig function

ocean whale
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That's just a value

novel remnant
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Wdym🥲

ocean whale
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sin(7) is just a number

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It's not a function

novel remnant
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So when is it a function

ocean whale
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When there's a variable

novel remnant
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Ohhh

novel remnant
ocean whale
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No

novel remnant
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There is a variable

ocean whale
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If you wanted to apply chain rule to that, which you don't need to do; the outside is sin, the inside is x

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So derivative of outside, keep the inside, times by the derivative of the inside is chain rule

novel remnant
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So why do we not apply it in my question??

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I don’t see the difference between all of these🫠

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Why does sin become cos

ocean whale
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Because what's the derivative of sin?

novel remnant
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But you just said not to take it

ocean whale
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I never said that

novel remnant
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You said it’s sin and keep the value inside

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Then multiply by the derivative of the value inside

ocean whale
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I said doing chain rule on sin(x) is not needed

novel remnant
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There are three chain rules

ocean whale
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No

novel remnant
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Our professor said that today

ocean whale
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Probably 3 different forms

novel remnant
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Yes^ one complicated one simple and one for 3+ functions

ocean whale
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It's all the same process, your professor said there are 3 because the complicated and the one for 3+ functions is built off of the simple

novel remnant
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Ohh I see

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Well for this question I don’t see why we have to take the derivative twice,
Cuz the outer is ()^-4
And inner is 1+sin(8x)

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So one derivative for outer
-4()^-5

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And one derivative for inner
1+cos(8x)

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Why do we take the derivative of the inner function again

simple wigeon
novel remnant
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I didn’t mean it that way

simple wigeon
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what way did u mean it

novel remnant
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I didn’t mean it like why I meant why specifically there cuz if sin(x) doesn’t become cos(1) why does it for sin(8x)

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Becoming cos(8x)

simple wigeon
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bc you can’t just plug in 1

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the x is the input

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and you don’t need to take the derivative of that input

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you can put cos(1) in ur calculator and get a number

novel remnant
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That’s what I was saying!

simple wigeon
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you cannot put cosx in and get a number

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bc it’s a function

novel remnant
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That’s my original question

simple wigeon
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Yet they took the derivative of the input

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8x

simple wigeon
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bc that’s chain rule

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u can’t leave 8x in there

novel remnant
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But we already applied it

simple wigeon
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and that’s why there’s an 8

simple wigeon
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until all chains are complete

novel remnant
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So these are 3 functions?

simple wigeon
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well

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no

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it’s 1 function

novel remnant
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So why are there 3 chains

simple wigeon
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y=

novel remnant
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which is cos(8x)

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and then the derivative of 8x

novel remnant
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So it is 3 functions

simple wigeon
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which is just

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8

simple wigeon
novel remnant
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But you separate them for the chain rule that’s what we were taught today

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Like (3x+2)^3

simple wigeon
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yes you do separate but you’re not creating diff functions you’re taking the derivative of the chains

novel remnant
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Outer function is ()^3
Inner function is 3x+2

simple wigeon
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you don’t just make up a function they give u it

novel remnant
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I know I’m just asking to understand

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Are there “three” functions in this one

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Is that why we keep going with the chain

simple wigeon
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i guess yes you can think of it like that

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but don’t separate them into 3 functions

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bc it’s still just 1

novel remnant
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I see so that’s what I was looking at wrong

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There is
outer inner inner
Then
Outer inner
Then
Inner

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In this one

simple wigeon
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yes

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and you’re just taking the derivatives of the “inner” until satisfied

novel remnant
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I see that’s what I didn’t notice

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Until there are no more inner ones right?

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I see it now, thank you🥲🥲

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Can anyone tell me what I'm doing wrong for the part c?

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the graph of f is supposed to be concave up when f''(x) > 0 and concave down when f''(x) < 0

neat folio
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what was your f'(x) and f''(x)?

silent mason
neat folio
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so just question C?

silent mason
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Yes, that's what I'm getting wrong

neat folio
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well for question C the method would be to take your stationary points and find the second derivative to determine concavity

silent mason
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from my calculations, f''(x) is positive in the interval (-infinity, 1) and negative on the interval (1, inifnity)

silent mason
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If you look at the first notebook image I sent?

neat folio
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isn't f''(x) -6x+2?

silent mason
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yes

neat folio
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so concavity would change at x = 1/3

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from increasing to decreasing

silent mason
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so, from positive to negative?

neat folio
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yes

silent mason
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oh you're right

neat folio
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that should give you your intervals

silent mason
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so, you solved f''(x) = 0?

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yes, that did

neat folio
silent mason
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got it

neat folio
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and then based on the function you can determine whether it increases or decreases depending on which side

silent mason
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wow, how did I totally miss that?

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thank you so much

neat folio
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np

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last 2 questions, pls show steps on how to (preferably write them down and then send a photo so i can understand easier). because idk how to do the formula for that one 😭

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also ping when able to help

chrome isle
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im.. not really sure how to do that

void swift
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u factored the x out

chrome isle
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that was mostly photomath ima be fr 😭i tried doing them myself and i couldnt figure out how to factor or, even remotely solve the equations.

void swift
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well that is problematic

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do u know/understand what factoring is?

chrome isle
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is it where you find the gcf?

reef hull
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its were you take out a common number

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so yeah

reef hull
void swift
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it doesnt always have to be the gcf just whatevers convenient

chrome isle
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but how do you find the gcf of a variable

void swift
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in ur photomathed answer u see that they factored out the x

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cuz its a common term

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like with x^2 and 5x, u can tell that they both share x as a common factor

chrome isle
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ohhh

void swift
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and when u write it as x(x-5) u can easily see what x has to be for the whole thing to equal 0

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try it out with question 3 if u can

reef hull
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you can also do quadratics to get the answers to this problem

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@chrome isle there is a eiser way

void swift
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theres no +c so i think factoring is easier than quadratic formula

reef hull
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no like

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you can bring all the terms to the same side

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and then its x(x +2)

void swift
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isnt this just factoring

chrome isle
reef hull
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oh true..

reef hull
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i think

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because its x (x + 2)

chrome isle
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i thoufht since (2-2) is 0 itd be just 2

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since, 0+(2-2)=0

void swift
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when ur moving -2x to the other side u flip signs

reef hull
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this should be +2

chrome isle
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ohhh

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okay

reef hull
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yeah

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the next question is the same thing

chrome isle
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what about 4? that adds 12x, would it just be factoring

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like

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3 is the gcf of 13 and 3

reef hull
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yeah so if you move it all to the same side

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you get 3x^2 - 12x = 0

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right?

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so you can factor out 3x

chrome isle
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idk im just having a lot of trouble when it comes to what exactly factoring is, like i believe i know how to set up the stuff its just

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my brain isnt processing what factoring means i guess

reef hull
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ok

chrome isle
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i have the equation set up, but i do not know where to go from there

reef hull
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so factoring means finding the terms that are multiplied together to get an expression

reef hull
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show the equation

chrome isle
reef hull
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so whats the same in both of 3x^2 and 12x?

chrome isle
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uhhhhh

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theres an x in both of them?

reef hull
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yeah

void swift
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good job, what else

reef hull
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what else?

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@chrome isle its a number

chrome isle
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3x4 equals 12, and 3x1 is 3 so would it be 3?

reef hull
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yeah

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so you can take out (factor out) 3x right?

chrome isle
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OH WAIT

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SO IT WOULD BE LIKE

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4 and 1 used?

reef hull
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yeah

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so you would get 3x(x-4) right?

chrome isle
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yeah i got that

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i got confused on the ^2 for a second my bad 😭

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would that be it?

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or is there another step to it

reef hull
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yeah i think thats the answer

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oh wait no

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my bad

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i reread the question

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3x(x-4) = 0

chrome isle
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oooh okay

reef hull
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yeah

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can you solve from there?

chrome isle
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i think so!

reef hull
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ok, good luck!

chrome isle
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i got it ^_^

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thank you both so much

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have no idea how to start

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Ok I’m sorry but your teacher did tell you how to start

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Essentially you want to use induction on n

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What happens in the base case start there

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What do you get when n=1

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right?

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Yeah

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That’s the base case technically you need to show that it also satisfies the equation

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But it does because i can only be 0 when n=1

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Those being that they are disjoint, they partition the original set ( A u B is the whole set ) and the equation of sums for each and every i = 0,1,…, n

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Ok so the first step is to make clear your induction hypothesis, this it what you will take to be true at the nth step and you need to to use it to show the n+1 step satisfies the properties. The induction hypothesis in this case is that An and Bn partition the original set in such a way that for all $$i \in {1,2,…n-1}$$ we have $$\sum_{a\in A_n} a^i = \sum_{b\in B_n} b^i $$

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llspacebarll

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This is the facts that you take as true

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What you need to prove is that $A_{n+1}$ and $B_{n+1}$ satisfy the same conditions

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Namely that they partition the set {0,1,2,…,2^(n+1) - 1, 2^(n+1)}

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That means they are disjoint but their union is the whole set

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And finally that they satisfy the same equality above but with n+1 in place of n

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@barren bolt im sorry can we start from base case, i read everything but i dont think im computing it properly

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from my understanding, for n=1 we have the set {1, 1, 2}

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how does this set get seperated into A = {1} and B = {2}?

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A set doesn’t have duplicate entries

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oh that makes sense

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so the set rather becomes {1,2} and separates to A = {1} and B = {2}

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but if we plug in these values for i=1 for the base case, wouldnt i get 1=2 meaning it doesnt hold?

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No n = 1

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Notice that i only goes up to n-1

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ohhh so that means i would use 0 instead for i? getting 1 = 1?

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Yeah

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ok i understand the base case now

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i understand the hypothesis to as well can u explain the induction step a little more please @barren bolt

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Bedtime I’m sorry 😢

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whats 1/x the derivative to?

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like d/dx of a value gives 1/x. whats that value

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ln(x) +C

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# alpine sable you said it was ln x

Well, if x is positive, you get ln(x) differentiating to 1/x, but if x is negative, then -x is positive, and ln(-x) differentiates to (-1)/(-x) = 1/x

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but the abs answer is the correct one for all x

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question a

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How do I do that?

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I’m lost on how to open one.

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go there you'll see

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I did read all of that.

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I’m still figuring it out.

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the thing here is to find out how you get a rectangle shape's perimeter of 500m

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How do i calculate sin or cos from tan?

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sine over cosine

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well

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you can find out sin and cos

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(alternative) assuming you know tan and want to find sin and cos, draw a triangle

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lots of alternatives. depends what you wanna do

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Hello

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Any idea how I can solve this?

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It was from my book, I just wrote it on a small sheet of paper to solve it nearby (to avoid mistakes on my homework sheet)

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I thought of using u = x+1 substitution but I havent found out how to simplified after

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I just end up with a quartic eq. divided by u^4

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Then I would expand using binomial theorem

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Wait

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and collect tham all on one side, and see where I end up, either you'll be lucky and stuff will cancel out, or you'll end up with some equation and after that you can look to substitue

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to solve the equation

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or factorise

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Havent done cross substitution since 6th grade lol

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Yea, so begin with that, then expand the one with the exponent of 4 using binomal theorem

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gather all the x together, and from there you can explore what to do

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either you substitute the variable to solve equation, or maybe stuff cancel, or you would have to do long division

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if that makes sense

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like, it all depends from how the equation ends up looking like after you've expanded

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A symmetric quartic equation

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W

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Multiply by -1 and divide by x² innit

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dividing by x^2

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I would personally just guess roots at this point

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And then divide by that factor

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until you get it fully factorised

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what channel should i go to if i want help with an exercise?

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Divide by x², sort it out like that, substitute x + 1/x = u

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You get a quadratic for u

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Good job

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Thanks

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I didn't see it initially

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I'll just quickly solve it and check it

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throw in the equation into some online calculator

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to check so that the roots are true

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after you're done

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Yes

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so you can confirm if you've done it correctly

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@dusty zodiac Sorry took me too much time (I miscalculated 8×4 in my head and got messed up)

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Solutions apply

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someone help

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@alpine sable !1c

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!1c

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im not really sure where to start, context is highschool math if that matters

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i would appreciate a hint rather than full solution but any advice is still appreciated 🙏

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<@&286206848099549185>

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ive tried messing with geometric ideas but that didnt lead me anywhere

solar narwhal
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You know that arccot(x) = arctan(1/x) ?

uneven isle
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yep

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Use that on the LHS

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Now

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What do you have in LHS?

uneven isle
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arctan(1/1-x+x^2)

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im assuming u are asking for something else hto

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oh

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i realise

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its compound angle inside

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.

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uneven isle
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thats tech

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because x and 1-x cancels the x out

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Yeah

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Do that

uneven isle
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i just get integrating dx then no?

solar narwhal
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It's

uneven isle
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does lhs not turn into arctan(tan(x+(1-x))

solar narwhal
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No

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?

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It's
Arctan( Tan( Arctan(x) + Arctan(1-x) ) )

uneven isle
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wait yeah im bugging

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Yeah

uneven isle
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failing basic math

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🤣

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forgor

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uneven isle
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oh right

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can apply geometry ideas so arctan(1-x) under the integral is equivelant to arctan(x)

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so lambda is 2?

solar narwhal
uneven isle
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lemme try part 2 now

solar narwhal
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Ok

uneven isle
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i did u sub

solar narwhal
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What did you do

uneven isle
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let x=u^2

solar narwhal
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Yeah

uneven isle
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for the arccot expression

solar narwhal
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That's correct

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and then there is a ffactor of 1/2

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so really it is just evaluating integral from 0 to 1 arctanx dx

solar narwhal
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Then used the above result

solar narwhal
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x = u^2

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dx = 2u*du

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It'd be 2

uneven isle
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fml im making basic math mistakes

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ok so it will just be 4 times what i got for my integral then

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t=t

solar narwhal
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Then using the above result that
Integral Arccot( 1-x+x^2) from 0 to 1 is
2 * integral Arctan(x) from 0 to 1

uneven isle
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i think 4 times?

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uneven isle
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oh

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and cancelled the 2

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but then it should have been multiplied

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yeah u right

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that was a series of brain slump

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thx for the help tho

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🙏

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I'm

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Getting

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Pi - ln( 4)

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?

uneven isle
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oh

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then it was 4 times not 8 times

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i got pi/4 - ln(sqrt2)

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when i factored 1/2

solar narwhal
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?? But you had an factor of 1/2

uneven isle
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i had factor infront of my expression for the arccot

solar narwhal
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,w integrate arctanx from 0 to 1

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uneven isle
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which computes to arctanx dx

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because the origina lexpression had lambda infront of arctanxdx expression

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which was 2

solar narwhal
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At least

uneven isle
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yeah

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i had 1/2 arccot(1-x+x^2)dx instead of 2 arccot(1-x+x^2) dx

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uneven isle
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sry my wording was confusing

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Watched too many Math 505

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Vids

uneven isle
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im assuming thats a youtube channel or some kind of platform

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Does some cool integrals and stuff

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Anyways remember to close this channel

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.close

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In abcd rectangle with 24,30cm sides, 30Cm side becomes radius and goes up and cuts other rectangle size, and removes that sector now there is small piece left in that side, and in that corner there is square, find area of the square

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,rccw

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Im unsuccessful so far, did some pythagoryms

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I'm thinking now

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,rccw

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did you get these? @earnest bobcat

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I think u calculated wrong

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Top one is 18,12 not 20,10

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oh right!

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lemme do again

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,rccw

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oh no

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the blues are wrong 😦

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ignore the blue ones 😦 thanks

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Yes i got the black ones

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Did u find any clue?

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,rotate

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earnest bobcat
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Yea

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How to continue with cos?

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nimble fern
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oh, the upper cos(theta) and lower cos(theta) are the same

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so we can equate them

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My brain is not responding while equating them

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hmmm

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$$\frac{30^2+30^2-\sqrt{2x^2-48x+24^2}}{2(30)(30)}=\frac{30-x}{30}$$

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Biscuity

nimble fern
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you mean this?

earnest bobcat
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Nah while trying to calculate X

nimble fern
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quadratic it is!

earnest bobcat
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Continue it

nimble fern
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$$(30)(30^2+30^2-\sqrt{2x^2-48x+24^2})=(30-x)(2(30)(30))$$

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Biscuity

nimble fern
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1800-√(2x²-48x+576)=1800-60x

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then we have
√(2x²-48x+576)=60x

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which will be quite easy now

earnest bobcat
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Its messy number

nimble fern
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,w solve 2x^2-48x+576=(60x)^2

nimble fern
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hmmm

earnest bobcat
nimble fern
earnest bobcat
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There is no 2

nimble fern
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this number is weird....

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lemme check if there are any mistakes

earnest bobcat
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Idk why there is even root

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When using cos formula

nimble fern
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that's my mistake!

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$$\frac{30^2+30^2-(2x^2-48x+24^2)}{2(30)(30)}=\frac{30-x}{30}$$

ocean sealBOT
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Biscuity

earnest bobcat
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There is no 2 behind x^2

nimble fern
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,w solve 2x^2-108x+24^2=0

nimble fern
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is the answer 36cm²?

earnest bobcat
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Yes

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Wait what how did u get -108 lmao

nimble fern
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lemme explain 🙂

nimble fern
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2x²-48x+576=60x

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so we have
2x²-108x+576=0

earnest bobcat
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Oh, i see

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I got gaslighted by picture 💀

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Alr then its done

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Thank you

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you're welcome!

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Can someone tell me why the answer is not 1/2? Since we have guaranteed 1G, therefore we would only need to consider the second one, so 3/6=1/2

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If he took 1 token and it was green, then if he took a 2nd it'd be 1/2, correct

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But they took both at the same time, and you know what 1 of them is

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So what it's really asking you is the probability of picking 2 green tokens if you take them at the same time

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Hope that helps

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Oh right, so maybe the problem is that I was considering the order...

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Yeah, it's a sneaky trick because people often then count them separately

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I have noticed that I have only counted one order instead of two

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So, given what you know now, what do you think the answer is?

fallow anchor
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I am quite bad at probabilities

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tbh I can be as well, I'm gonna guess you haven't learnt binomials? If so then there should be a simple way to do it

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But I think it should be P(get 2G)/P(at least 1G)

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The problem is that there aren't the same number of counters for each color

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So I thought that with binomial was not porssible

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Unless you do binomials, but tbh even I'm struggling with that a bit

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fallow anchor
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Probably because you are still lowering the power when it's established they were taken at the exact same time

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Not power, denominator^

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Using binomials, maybe number of ways of getting 2Gs = 4!7!/5!?

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Still not using binom though

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Too high maybe

fallow anchor
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And 2Gs = binom (4 2)?

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Ah, if you do have to use binomials then I just realised I won't be able to help much because it clearly wants you to use it in fraction form, but I've always been taught to use calculator directly which does not give that with any combination I'm getting

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Problem is, what are we taking x, N, and p as?

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Because there are multiple ways to do it

fallow anchor
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Oh, ig you don't use calculator

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yeah, we are not allowed to use them

mossy jasper
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That's very rough

fallow anchor
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but for this problem i dont think we need to use big numbers

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what is your approach to this problem?

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That's the question, isn't it. If you require a binomial then I can't help because I learnt on calculator, and I do not see any way to input this on a calculator

mossy jasper
fallow anchor
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Okay that probably would've been very helpful to start with lmao

fallow anchor
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LMAO it wouldn't be a spoiler to us because we aren't part of your school, dw

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Yeah I'm really struggling to find how they got 1/3, my main thing is just that 1/2 would be right if they were taken at separate times, but they're not

fallow anchor
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you are not replacing it

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same time = you took 2 tokens in one go

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different times = you took 1 token first, then a second after

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Correct, you're not replacing

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But replacements don't matter if they were taken at the same time anyway

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Ah okok

mossy jasper
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wait I may be starting to work it out, lemme see

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Nope, I've gotten almost every answer EXCEPT 1/3 lmao

fallow anchor
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Do you have a binomial formula, bc if so then you can do the prob of x = 2 first

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Then for the probability of at least 1 green, that is the same as P(X≤2) - P(X=0)

mossy jasper
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That's the combos, but doesn't help for which token, with the exception of blue since blue only has 1 anyway

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Do you have an actual generic formula?

fallow anchor
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No

mossy jasper
# fallow anchor At least 1G= 2GG+GR+RG+BG+GB

Then I don't think this helps. There are 8 combos in total, and 1G is 5 of them, but that does not mean the probability of 1G is 5/8's because the actual probability of those combinations can be different

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np, I'm sorry I couldn't actually work out why the answer is what it is for you

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chat

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what's the q3 for this?

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is it 36 or 37?

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yo dude what's the answer for this?

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You can’t simply ask for answers

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and what i calculated is 36

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and the answ is 37

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if you alrdy have the ans

visual zephyr
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reason?

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B) ?

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yeah quartile 3

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on god

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i just want to know y the answer is 37 instead of 36 using the formula

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is it that hard to tell 😭

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@simple spireyo so may i know why now

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I get 36

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same

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whosdan if you showed your working that'd help

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Yea

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answer is 37

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never mind it’s not

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37 should be right

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position Q3 = 3(25+1)/4 = 19.5 Q3 is halfway between 19th 20th values: 36 and 38 so 36+38/2 = 37

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o i got it

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1 is needed to add?

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Where

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o nvm i guess i did wrong

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Q3 = 3(n+1)/4

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wrong formula

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Yh

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thanks so much dude

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appreciate it

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Yw

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hello! so i changed schools and they did functions ive never seen before and i need to find out the limits as x nears infinity. i tried doing something by watching some youtube tutorials and things but i dont know if i did it right as i couldn't find some functions there. could someone please go over them and explain it a bit if i did it wrong

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maybe use ${-\infty}$ and ${\infty}$?

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icannotdoanymorecauchy

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also, this one the function oscillates

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so u cant find the limit

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anyway yeah i normally don't see ppl writing empty set for limit not existing

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yeah

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normally u'd write limit "limit does not exist" or DNE for short

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u can write that for my -infty and infty

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and the other ones are good?

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no

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all good

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thank you!!

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sry ik its chem]

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but kind of math heree

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So

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That formula

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like i fill out an example

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It would be M= 12.01/6.02x10^23?

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M = to mlar mass

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oh

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6.02x10^23 atoms is 1 mole of it

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so if there were that many atoms you would just do 12.01/1

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So can someone help me with matrix?

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Oh

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also

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the mass substance is how much of it is tehre

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if there were 12.01 grams of carbon

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do you know about the formula moles = mass/mr?

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uh no

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ok

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say they said there were 12.01g of carbon

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this is 1 mole of carbon (i'm just giving you this information)

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oh

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ok

remote pebble
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so you can just say 12.01g/1 mol = 12.01 g/mol

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so this number under the symbol

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yes

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is always equal to 1 mol

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that's the number of grams in 1 mole of that atom

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Ok

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Hi, im doing some linear algebra and i was trying to make sure my work is correct on the first matrix

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Help guys pls how to do this

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LmaO

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anyone know how to find difference quotient of these

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