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wanton wigeon
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We also had minus

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Bye need to go

burnt reef
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what the fuck is your issue man

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@burnt reef is oppailol trolling you

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Hello, i tried solving my homework in probability. Would it be possible, that someone could verify my work and guide me through potential mistakes?

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it's all correct

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also thank you

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dusk cave
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Hi, just asking to make sure but the highlighted question doesnt have an inverse, right? Because of the 2?

dusk cave
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Just wanna know if i remembered it right šŸ˜”

tall topaz
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You're right

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Oh wait

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What do you mean by because of the 2?

dusk cave
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If x = 2, sqrt(4-4) = sqrt(0) which isnt possible

mossy jasper
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Yes it is

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mossy jasper
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sqrt(0) is 0

dusk cave
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šŸ˜”oh

mossy jasper
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LMAO

dusk cave
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So there exists a unique inverse for the function?

dusk cave
tall topaz
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,wolfram plot y = sqrt(4-x^2) with 0<=x<=2

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tall topaz
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damn

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dusk cave
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If sqrt(0) is possible, then sure??

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Only if it becomes sqrt(-1) it wont have one, right?

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Unlessnim wrong again

tardy stag
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,w graph sqrt(4-x²) from 0 to 2

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tall topaz
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Thank you Hayley

tall topaz
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You have a one to one function so the inverse exists here

dusk cave
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Oooh!! So like if it was [0,3] then there wouldnt ve a unique inverse, right??

tall topaz
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Unless you define it to be something else on (2,3]

dusk cave
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Oooh

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Alright, thank you so much!!

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bright remnant
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Im not sure how to solve this but I think I have to use fourier integrals because there are no bounds?

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sharp plaza
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not necessary in this case

the forcing function, r(t) = sin(4t), is already a single frequency sine wave

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just get it to the same form as the forcing function and solve for the coefficients

bright remnant
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the issue is when I use the quadratic formula it gets messy and I dont know what to do

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because of the cy'

sharp plaza
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just focus on the coefficients of the sine and cosine terms

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so first substitute the assumed particular solution and its derivatives into the differential equation, group the terms on sine and cosine, then math coefficients

bright remnant
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so are you saying I dont need to use the quadratic formula

sharp plaza
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i dont see why you need to

sand sage
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This is how I solved an ODE Fourier series problem one time

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I basically just did this

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And added on the Fourier series of r(t) later on

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So I was thinking this is how you would solve the problem

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bright remnant
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?

finite citrus
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I just got interested in maths and I’m shit at it

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please use another channel

finite citrus
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Idk what steps to take

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wet vector
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for part b i get 700m

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but ms gets 710m

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how?

alpine sable
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what did you do to reach this answer

wet vector
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=700

vale crag
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how long do you think the car takes to accelerate to 20m/s ?

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yea that's the problem

wet vector
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bruh

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mb didnt see it lol

vale crag
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the car doesn't accelerate in 10 sec

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it takes 9 sec

wet vector
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yh i got it

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thanks

vale crag
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but honestly the graph has shitty resolution, so I get you

wet vector
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yh lol

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The graph of f consists of line segments, as shown in the figure. Evaluate each definite integral by using geometric formulas.

mystic nebula
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so i dont understand how this works

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for part a

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do i read that as -3 times the interval of the function from 0,1

mystic nebula
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they multiplied -3 by something to get 3/2

small lance
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No, ignore -3

mystic nebula
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but thats the solution

small lance
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Just explain what I underlined

mystic nebula
small lance
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What’s the definition of integral?

mystic nebula
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an antiderivative

small lance
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Another one

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Explain it geometrically

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small lance
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Correct

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That’s what I’m asking for

mystic nebula
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so i want the area of the function in the [0,1] interval

small lance
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Correct

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But don’t forget the area you are looking for is below the axis

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Therefore, a negative sign should be added

mystic nebula
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so uh

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which is the triangle

small lance
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Yeah

mystic nebula
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would i shade the top half

small lance
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Wdym

mystic nebula
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i want the area of the shaded region right

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or does it have to be under the line

mystic nebula
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so i use A = -1/2bh

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b and h are both 1

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so its just -1/2

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-3 times that is just 3/2

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for part b i find the area of this

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btw will i always be calculating the base and height just from looking at the graph

azure needle
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🧐

mystic nebula
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whats confusing

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oh nvm its a dumb question since base and height only applies when there's a graph

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This is an SAT question. I did something with rewriting the first equation as 4y=4x-2 and then dividing by 2 to get y=x-1/2 and the second equation stays as ty=2x+1/2. For two equations to have no solutions, they can be parallel(same slope) and different y intercepts so the if the t value is 2, the 2x/2 would make the same slope but different y int. So it could be y=x-1/2 and y=x+1/4

alpine sable
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But my solution is wrong so I just wanna know what's wrong because even when you put it in desmos, it's wrong

thorny patio
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Ok once you get the equation to be in a similar form

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Try to match the number of x

small lance
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You made mistakes on your first step

alpine sable
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Rewriting it?

thorny patio
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Yea you did an algebra error there actually

small lance
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Consider doing it again

alpine sable
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..

thorny patio
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Try doing it all one action at a time

alpine sable
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It's 16y

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Lol

thorny patio
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Yea xD

alpine sable
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I didn't realize it was

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4x-6y

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I prolly saw it and just instictively subtracted anyways

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Sorry about that, that was dumb

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My method still worked

small lance
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No worries

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snow lodge
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How do you solve this (no L'Hopitals)

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nimble fern
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by expanding the fraction with
(7x)/(7x) and (5x)/(5x)

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it's usually the case involving sine's of different values on the numerator and the denominator

cinder tundra
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Have in mind than lim x->0 sin(ax)/(bx) = a/b

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But why

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OK I gtg

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help

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hoary nimbus
still temple
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basically right

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its the step to find centripetal force

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i get conservation of energy

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but how do i find centripetal force

hoary nimbus
still temple
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whats R

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wouldnt it be N+mg

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normal force

hoary nimbus
still temple
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yeah

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oh i see

hoary nimbus
still temple
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at the bottom it would be

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at the top its different

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yeah your right

hoary nimbus
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Yes exactly

still temple
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but wouldnt the forces magnitide be constant

hoary nimbus
still temple
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oh yeah

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at the highest

hoary nimbus
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And highest point

still temple
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if we talking min speed

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it can loose contact with the loop

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right

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momentarily

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and thats what the question asks for

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minmium speed

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so the centripetal force is only mg

hoary nimbus
still temple
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but it looses contact at the top before catching itself again

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right?

hoary nimbus
still temple
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surely bc we need minium speed

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to traverse the loop

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not to be attatched at all times

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am i wrong

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genuinly i have no clue

hoary nimbus
still temple
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so would the asnweer to the second part be root 6g

hoary nimbus
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Ur kinda close tho

still temple
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its units isnt it

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fuck

hoary nimbus
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Nah but that’s incorrect too

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It’s not just units

still temple
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hmm

hoary nimbus
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Ur value for m/s is wrong too

still temple
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v = root gr

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from equating mv^2/r = mg

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r = 6

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im confused from here

hoary nimbus
still temple
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waht

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how

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it is no

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what is it

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take square root

hoary nimbus
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But that is the incorrect final answer

still temple
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could you correct me pls im lost

hoary nimbus
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That’s the velocity of the particle or whatever at the highest point of the circle

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But we want velocity at where?

still temple
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at the start

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idk how to do that

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wouldnt that be the sanwer tho

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nah i have nothing bro

hoary nimbus
still temple
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i was right

hoary nimbus
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But units

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Mph is miles per hour?

still temple
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yeah

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then just convert

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but in essence iw as right

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right?

hoary nimbus
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Yes

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hidden hazel
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Did I solve this correctly?

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onyx tinsel
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f(x) isn't always 2 in[-6,4)

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@hidden hazel -6 isn't even in the range

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at all

hidden hazel
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Oh my mistake sorry

onyx tinsel
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btw the filled dots mean that a certain point is part of the graph

hidden hazel
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Yeah its the conditions of an inequality isn't it?

onyx tinsel
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so

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if the line at y = 2

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has two filled dots

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that means that the 2 part starts and ends with [ ]

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and the 1 part has one open dot at first and ends witha closed dot

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which is ( ]

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the 3 part starts with an open dot and ends with a closed dot

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( ]

hidden hazel
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Okay one moment

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So the different dots being open or closed represent the different symbols we use to denote an inequality SO

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let me try and figure this out...

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alpine sable
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I have to find difference quotient of this but I don’t know what to do after

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tacit arch
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(a-b)(a+b) =?

alpine sable
tacit arch
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The numerator of a fraction is the part above the horizontal line

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And the numerator of the product of two fractions is the product of the numerators

alpine sable
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You mean like this?

tacit arch
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From here. Just factor out a 4 then apply

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alpine sable
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?

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What do I do after

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tacit arch
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are you going backwards?

tacit arch
alpine sable
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You told me to factor 4

tacit arch
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well yes i thought you could do more than 1 step at a time

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alpine sable
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Multiply by Like square root of x Times Square root of x+h?

tacit arch
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no

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after you've factored out a 4, this becomes

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$4 (\sqrt{x} - \sqrt{x+h}) (\sqrt{x} + \sqrt{x+h})$

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riemann

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hard glade
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Can someone help me?

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for item 7, do i just substitute the x on y = sin(x)?

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so the first one will be sin(0), sin(pi/6), and so on? and theyre my final answers?

still ruin
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yes

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You will plot the output off the sine function

lilac jolt
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just for item 7, after the substitution is my final answer?

still ruin
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yeah, you will put sin(0) and in y= sinx you will put the output (in this case it's 0)

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and continue for each

lilac jolt
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output?

still ruin
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x in your input and y is your output

lilac jolt
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oh okay thank you

still ruin
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your welcome

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how do i plot these sin functions

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from the table

still ruin
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just like how you will plot any function (quadratic, linear equation). YOu will plot the (x,y) of each corresponding column in the table you made

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since in the sien function, you will not get whole numbers, you will approximate the placement of the values

lilac jolt
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This trigonometry video tutorial explains how to graph sine and cosine functions using transformations, horizontal shifts / phase shifts, vertical shifts, amplitude, and the period of the sinusoidal function. This video contains many examples and practice problems on graphing trigonometric functions for you to master this topic.

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like this?

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sorry, we dont learn math in english

still ruin
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oh, that's okay

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but the video you show above us what I am talking about

lilac jolt
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thank you, i will try

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i’m stuck on this

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3/x^2 = 3 x^(-2)

Do you remember how the power rule for differentiation works?

indigo anchor
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yeah

indigo anchor
twin nimbus
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The first part?

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$\frac{3}{x^2} = 3x^{-2}$

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OmnipotentEntity

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ahhh

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i forgot about that rule

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i get it now

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alpine sable
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If I had to differentiate something like this e^(tanx - sinx) wrt x. I could straight up use chain-rule right?

serene ridge
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yeah why not

alpine sable
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All the problems like this take ln and proceed so was just wondering

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Sorry

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I have an exam tomorrow

tardy stag
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yep chain rule and others

alpine sable
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And everything is jumbled up in my head

mortal trellis
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there are often several ways to solve things. I would also just use chain rule

alpine sable
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So there is no ugly expression where I couldn’t use chain rule?

serene ridge
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I mean if you have something like x*sin(x) you can't use chain rule there, but you can use product rule

mortal trellis
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well I mean chain rule should of course be applicable. it should still be a composition of things

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but otherwise you can always apply it. it might just be more painful than some other trick

serene ridge
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chain rule always works when you have the composition of two functions

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Thank you so much guys

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I really appreciate it

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I need help on the Test for algebra 1.

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нароГ , помогите мне с математекой

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What

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Integrate 1/(1+e^x) from 0 to infinity

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3

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Wait a min pls I will upload a photo

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okok

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How do I put in the limits though??

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Sorry I didn't get it

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$\lim_{x\to\infty}ln\left(\frac{e^x}{1+e^x}\right)$

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ln(e^x/1+e^x) factor out e^x and subsitute limits

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here you can divide both numerator and denominator by e^x

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or use what Urabot said

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Thnx guys

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But what is the problem in my solution

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No

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That's the problem

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The ans is supposed to be ln2

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But I get inf-inf

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Ok

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you have to do more work

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So if I take limits I will get an answer

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yeah

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??

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{kinda}

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It's the first time I have encountered a problem like this

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??

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Nah just tell me now

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Ok I trust you

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the underlined part is a bit confusing for me

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where did iota go? and how did 4x2^2y2^2 come?

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no.3

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alright so its squared that means that minus should turn into + as - - is +

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how did it come

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what was the step and what was the rule

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the $-2x_2^2y_2^2$ comes from $(x_2^2-y_2^2)^2$

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Sepdron

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hello

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In interval notation where is the graph continous

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I put (1,4]

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no specific problem but when performing LU decomposition, why are we only allowed to use row operation 3 (multiply row by scalar and add to another) and not the other 2 row operations (row swap and multiply a row by a scalar)?

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i have an inkling idea of why from reading things online but i couldn't find a super clear explanation

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why???

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trigonometry

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how can number 2 be done

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ive been stuck with my answeer. i got told i am wrong

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you sure function is increasing from -3 to infty?

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hello, so the way i got this was to read the graph from l to right and then it tell me where it gets the higest point

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unless it means the whole thing which would be -infi, +infi

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you entered -3 to 0 in decreasing part

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so it doesn't makes sense to include that -3 to 0 in increasing part too

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oh

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notice the graph

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so it means from (0,0) the increase ahead>

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from -3 to 0 the slope of graph is constantly negative
id est it is decreasing on that interval

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?

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from -3 it is rising?

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that's how the function is categorized between increasing and decreasing on some interval

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tbh it doesnt make sence in my head

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carefully examine the graph in the interval of -3 to 0

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okay, -3,0 is the top of the line goes

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i understand that

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but shouldnt i start from the very left, which would be -infi

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to the top

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that is what i am getting at w my incorrct a

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of course for examining where the function is increasing

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but that -3 to infty part is not

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since from -3 to 0 the function is decreasing and not increasing (what they are asking in part A)

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are you begining from that point

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-3 to infi

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that goes down

cedar kelp
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that's the interval where the slope of the function is negative

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hence it is decreasing on that interval

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but you need the interval where it is increasing

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from 0, to infinity??

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question mark]

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and also -infty to -3

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but why

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ah

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is that what the u means

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U

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\cup

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yeah

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union of both intervals

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like so. i am nervous to submit

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my goodness

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it makes a bit more sense, just as a fyi

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union means within the line per say

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For question 1 regarding linear velocity, why does the value change from radians/seconds to meter/seconds?
For question 2 regarding angular velocity, why does the value change from inches/seconds to radians/seconds?

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v=rw and w=v/r

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is what they were doing

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did I convert wrong?

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im confused you have the same answers

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for the part where V=3m(3pi rad/2sec), why does the radian disappear?

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although I got the solutions, I'm unsure about that part

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!help

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Idk how dividing 10 and 2 makes 5

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can ask for a derivative problem?

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few ways to do it:

  1. This is derivative definition, convert the definition to function
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f(x +h) - f(x) / h

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yeah and what is f(x) in that case

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the function output y

dull lintel
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yea

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h^3 + 2x^2h / h

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h^2 + 2x^2

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what's that mean

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iron dragon
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(x+h)^3 - x^3 / h

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h^2 + 2x^2 + xh + x^2 + 2xh

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right ok

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now as h goes to 0?

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if you plug 0 in h you get 0/0

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h^2 + 3hx + 3x^2

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after simplifying plug 0

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so we get 3x^2

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yes

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thank you

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you're welcome

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can you help me with another?

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sure

iron dragon
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so now we have to get rid of (simplify) x so we don't get 0/0 right?

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yes

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hint: (a-b)(a+b) = a^2 - b^2

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you'll have to multiply (expand) numerator and denominator by something so you get rid of square roots and then you well be able to simplify

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sqroot(x +9) - 3 / sqroot(x + 9) - 3

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you already have a-b you need a+b

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1 / (sqroot(x+9) - 3)

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MetuMortis

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1 / (sqroot(x+9) +3)

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yes

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after that just plug 0

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1/6

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yes

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thank you

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I have done Calculus 9 years and I tried doing Calculus 2 and keep having to drop, this is Calculus 1 work again, do I need to re do Calculus 1 to be able to pass Calculus 2 or is there not much over lap and you would focus on Calculus 2? I have trouble doing integrals, I can't remember most of the derivatives and the integration formulas are hard to remember, especially the trigonometric ones and trigonometric identities I don't know

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I noticed you have a github, I am trying to do a Computer Science degree but I still need to do Calculus 2, Linear Algebra, Discreet Math, Calculus 3 and Stats. I am afraid it might take me a long time

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and I might even have to re do Calculus 1 or Pre Calculus since it's been years since I passed Calculus 1 and Pre Calculus

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did you do Calculus in highschool?

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if I don't remember trig identities will I learn them a long the way in Calculus or is it from before Calculus

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Not sure :/

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how would I solve this one?

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@dull lintel can you please help me again?

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Am I simplifying this right?

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I know there is the function $f(x,y)=x^n+y^n$

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How can I prove that it is the only one?

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may i ask what composition of function is?

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What do you mean?

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<@&286206848099549185>

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What is N*

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Natural numbers greater than 0

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So 1,2,3,...

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Aren't those just natural numbers

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N

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N includes 0

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Whole numbers?

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Yes

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Bro W includes 0 and natural numbers

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Is this correctly written?

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Natural numbers are 123

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Should the numerator be x^m in the three fractions in rhs?

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Yes

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Here is the original

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In my language

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Then what you wrote has a typo

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Where?

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You wrote x^m/something three times

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Oh

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Thanks

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Let $n,m \in \mathbb{N}^{*}$. Determine $f:(0,\infty) \times (0,\infty) \rightarrow (0,\infty)$ with the property that, for every $x, y, z > 0$, with $f(x,y)=f(y,x)$ and
$\frac{x^m}{f(y,z)}+\frac{y^m}{f(z,x)}+\frac{z^m}{f(x,y)}=\frac{x^m}{y^n+z^n}+\frac{y^m}{z^n+x^n}+\frac{z^m}{x^n+y^n}$

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help

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how would i simplify the bottom

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Can't you just plug the values in?

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when i do it i get this

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after taking lcm

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it won’t let me send my screen shot but i get

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(-3x^2+6xy-3y) / (2x+y)^3

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but the mark scheme says it’s 12xy on the top

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i just don’t see how to get that

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top is called numerator

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in numerator, after taking lcm

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you will get
-3x(-(x+2y)) - 3y(2x+y)

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and whole fraction would be

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-3x(-(x+2y)) - 3y(2x+y) / (2x+y)³

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To determine if a function's limit exists or not, I need to check if the limit from the left and the limit from the right both approach the same value, right?

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If they approach different values, the limit does not exist.

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Aye

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Okay: For some functions I find that to be easy to see by just looking at it or graphing the function, but if I have a periodic function that I have trouble graphing, I wish there was a purely algebraic approach to determining if the limit does not exist

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Is there a purely algebraic method to determine if a limit exists or not?

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I can easily see that the limit for 8/x as x approaches 0 doesn't exist.

However, I can not easily see that the limit for sin(8/x) as x approaches 0 doesn't exist.

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8/x would be the "angle" of the the sin function in sin(8/x)?

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and the angle approaches both positive and negative infinity

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i suck at math fr

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I can easily see that the limit for 8/x as x approaches 0 doesn't exist.

However, I can not easily see that the limit for sin(8/x) as x approaches 0 doesn't exist, because I have trouble imagining the graph for the function.

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8/x in sin(8/x) would be the angle

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So the angle would be + or - infinity

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an angle that is + or - infinity doesn't tell us anything about the function

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so it does not exist?

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How do I reason around a limit that doesn't exist of a trigonmetric function?

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Can you have sin(Ā±āˆž)

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I am not sure to be honest, I have never seen it before and I can't imagine what it would mean.

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it's because sin oscillates between -1 & 1

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if you check the graph

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Yeah

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Yeah but the angle could be infinite, couldn't it?

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We would end up somewhere between -1 and 1

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yes

heavy prairie
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But since it is infinite we never end up anywhere?

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sin(1/0+) = sin(infinite)

sin(1/0-) = sin(-infinite) = -sin(infinite)

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Im confused how to do thsi

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where do i even start on it?

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wdym

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like vertical angles

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?

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ya

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Have you guys learned that all the angles in a triangle add up to 180?

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yes

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ohh

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i see

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ty

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ok, glad it helped ig lol

plucky fulcrum
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step 2 find my textbook xd

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ya, you gotta somehow infer another angle based on one of those rules and probably use that rule of all angles in a triangle add up to 180 to find it.

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yeah

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i didnt realize they were triangles

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ya, that's how I would do it if I could. It seems like a bit of a tough problem at first glance tbh

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You'd probably need to set a bunch of sums of angles as 180 and then use some algebra to solve... but idk 'cause I haven't done geometry in like 10 years.

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all before high school lmao

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<@&268886789983436800> still spamming

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novel remnant
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How do I do this?

lone heartBOT
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Damn this is gonna be a long one🄲

buoyant saddle
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differentiate

tight pier
novel remnant
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Nope

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I only did derivatives with regular numbers

tight pier
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@buoyant saddle what is the derivative of sine

buoyant saddle
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cos

novel remnant
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Wait really?

buoyant saddle
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why are you asking me

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šŸ’€

novel remnant
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It’s that simple?

tight pier
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and the derivative of cos?

buoyant saddle
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-sin

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man thinks i don’t know

tight pier
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damn bro is cooking

novel remnant
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Negative?

tight pier
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yes

novel remnant
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Why is that

buoyant saddle
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do you need a proof

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with limit definition

novel remnant
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Yea I’m curious

buoyant saddle
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prove it yourself

novel remnant
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How in the hell🤣

tight pier
buoyant saddle
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using limit definition

novel remnant
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What does that mean

tight pier
novel remnant
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There is such a thing as anti derivative ?!😭😭

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Oh my god

buoyant saddle
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yes

tight pier
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intergrals

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but ignore it

buoyant saddle
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just going in the other direction

tight pier
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it's kinda sad that knief cannot do a limit definition proof for you šŸ˜”

alpine sable
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lmao

novel remnant
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So basically you are left with cos+(-sin)?

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So cos-sin

tight pier
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yea, just dont forget the coeffcients

novel remnant
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Don’t they drop out

alpine sable
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no

tight pier
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no

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they are factors

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not summands

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they stay

novel remnant
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What is summands lol

tight pier
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bro

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1+2

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1 and 2 are summands

novel remnant
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Oh lol, so basically because they are being multiplied?

tight pier
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yes

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that's why factors

novel remnant
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I see, I’m not good with terms in English lol

tight pier
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me either

novel remnant
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So basically it’s 5cos-6sin?

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That’s the derivative?

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And the x’s drop out

tight pier
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yes

novel remnant
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It’s wrong

tight pier
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bro

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the x dont drop out

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wtf

novel remnant
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How??

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Then how is this a derivative

tight pier
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they are the argument

novel remnant
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Like the derivative of 2x is 2

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X drops out

tight pier
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5cos(x)-6sin(x)

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no

novel remnant
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Why is this one different 🄲

tight pier
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cos and sin have no meaning

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without the x

novel remnant
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Ohh because they have to calculate something?

tight pier
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yes they are functions

novel remnant
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This is a weird derivative lol

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The regular one is much simpler

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You drop one x multiply the numbers and call it a day

tight pier
novel remnant
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Yay me😭🤣

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I have cal2 next semester so🫠

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What do I do with the second one

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I plug it in x?

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Do I take the derivative first or do I plug it first and then take the derivative?

tight pier
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yes

novel remnant
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Which one🤣

tight pier
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you are already given the derivative

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f'(x) is given

novel remnant
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Oh I plug it after taking the derivative

tight pier
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yes

novel remnant
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So like that was the first step

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Thank you

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What did I do wrong

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I told the cos of it and the sin of it multiplied and added

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Wrong answer

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Nvm now suddenly it gave me -1 as an answer

tight pier
novel remnant
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Isn’t it infinite

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It’s still wrong why??

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Now it gave me the previous answer again..

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I did - instead of + it’s 9.83šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™‚ļø

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How do I do this?

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I put pi in the x’s and got 11.56 but that’s not m so I’m not sure what I got

lone heartBOT
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@novel remnant Has your question been resolved?

stone marlin
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Help me

tight pier
lone heartBOT
tight pier
novel remnant
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The derivative of pi??

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How do I even do that

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Isn’t it 0

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Every number by itself is 0

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So the derivative of 3.17 is 0

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I’m so confused

tight pier
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no

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the derivative of y

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that's y'

novel remnant
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Ohhh

tight pier
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and y'(pi) means pi plugged in

novel remnant
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I take the derivative and then plug pi??

tight pier
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yes

novel remnant
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Ohh omg

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So I found the slope of the original equation?

tight pier
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what is the derivative of 4xcos(x)

tight pier
novel remnant
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4-sin(x)?

tight pier
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no

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you need product rule

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it's a product not a sum

novel remnant
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Wth

ocean sealBOT
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Oh right that thing🄲

tight pier
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Here f(x) = 4x and g(x) = cos(x)

novel remnant
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What if it was 4xcos(x)sin(x) how’d you do it then

tight pier
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i could say use identity for cos(x)sin(x)=sin(2x)/2 but i get your point

ocean sealBOT
novel remnant
tight pier
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if for example you treat (fg) together as one

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and so one

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but anyway

novel remnant
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I did all of this and it’s wrong oh my god🫠🫠🫠

tight pier
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What did I do wrong

tight pier
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,, y'(\pi) = 4\cos(\pi)-4\pi \sin(\pi) = 4(-1) = -4

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no calculator needed

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sine at pi becomes 0

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cosine becomes -1

ocean sealBOT
novel remnant
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Wait hold on

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(4x)(-sin(x))

tight pier
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it's being multiplied

novel remnant
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Isn’t that 4x-sin(x)

tight pier
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no

novel remnant
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How do you multiply it then

tight pier
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it's like saying

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2(-3) = 2-3

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the left is

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-6

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the right is -1

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so obviously wrong

novel remnant
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My brain

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How do you multiply it then🄲🄲

tight pier
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a(-b) = a(-1)b = (-1)ab

novel remnant
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-4xsin(x)??

novel remnant
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What the fuck

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It’s still wrong

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Oh cuz it’s multiplied by 0

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Bruh this is breaking my brain

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One hour to find the slopešŸ’€

crystal berry
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bro took an hour to differentiate

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respect

novel remnant
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It’s so much more difficult with sin and cos wth🄲

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Alef one help

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Bruh I made the same fucking mistake

tight pier
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im eating

novel remnant
crystal berry
crystal berry
novel remnant
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Alef don’t scare me like that🄲

crystal berry
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anyway

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ill help

novel remnant
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Product rule again,

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?

crystal berry
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🤣🤣

crystal berry
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bro

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okay differentiate

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sinx cosx

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what do you get

novel remnant
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Coscos+sin-sin?

crystal berry
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huh

novel remnant
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Isn’t it the product rule

crystal berry
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yeah

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but

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they way you write it

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is funny

novel remnant
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It’s because of the discord thing🤣🤣

crystal berry
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cosx cosx - sinx sinx

novel remnant
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šŸ‘