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SimonWin
How does a constant not effect the definite integral?
all constant just cancel
I never thought of that
thats why the +C doesnt matter
But yes makes sense wow
Yea..
Wow..
hmm
Wtf
So, what you did there was amazing, but i'm guessing i would've made my life much easier if i just picked u=6x+1
or would i arrive at the same
if youre doing a definite integral, i dont think theres any difference in hardship
with an indefinite one, you might get confused but it would still be right
yeah since the constant cancels out
so i never thought when you took the definite integral the cancel didn't matter
but makes sense that when you do F(b)-F(a)
all constant terms will have mixed signs and cancel out
yup
i just tried u=6x+1
just for fun
and practice
and seems i'd arrive at the same in the end hahaha
6*3x^2+6
yup 
Yeah hahah.. π
You called it.
But how would I arrive at like the same answer as wolfram? π
Without having to factor out a constant
Because honestly when im sitting in a 4 hour exam sweating i'm realistically not going to see that π
Perhaps it was better just letting u=x^2
like that Q guy said haha
And for some reason (i am probably calculating it wrong) but I am getting the wrong definite integral
all the way below^^
you can get to that directly by recognition of the fact that:
$$\int {\frac{x}{3x^2+1}} dx=\frac{1}{6} \int{ \frac{6x}{3x^2+1}} dx$$
Then as Q had said you can recognise the numerator is the derivative of the denominator after applying this factorisation, and that:
$$\frac{d}{dx} ln(f(x))=\frac{f'(x)}{f(x)}$$
therefore
$$\frac{1}{6} \int{ \frac{6x}{3x^2+1}} dx= \frac{1}{6} ln(3x^2+1)+C$$
$\int_0^1 x(3x^2+1)^(-1)$
Where yall find rules like that? π
1/6 ln(24) - 1/6 ln(6)
I see
if it was a above
a/a = 1
And then it would just be ln|ax+b|
Right?
$\int \frac{a}{ax+b}dx=\frac{a}{a}ln|ax+b|=ln|ax+b|$
they factor out 1/a so its a/(ax+b) then apply the reverse of the derivative i gave here
yeah
SimonWin
Why is it not right π’
I thought i was onto something
the 1/a is factored outside the integral
$\frac{1}{a}\int \frac{a}{ax+b}dx=\frac{1}{a}ln|ax+b|+C$
Aβ€Γ
shoudlnt it be 1 in the nominator then?
where?
or wait no
No sorry i think i got confused
I thought you took the nominator out
no problemo
But that's definitely not it
no it was 1, but by factoring out 1/a it becomes a
no worries
you too
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Can someone help with a step by step process on how to solve this?
Find the area of FGH, and then find the area of GPH
That should be a good starting point
So do I find the area of FGH and then find all the possible locations for P so that the other triangles can have half the area of FGH?
So that GPH has half the area of FGH, yes
Ooohhhh okay
Then you worry about FPG and HPF
Okay I think I got it, let me try doing it
Thanks
I solved it, thank you so much!
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Hi again, I am given a group (G, *) and e=1. assuming x*y*z=1, is y*z*x=1?
sup sup
damn m formatiings doghsit
x^{-1}
same goes for y and z
only in an abelian group
or actually
yeah that makes sense
with that said, either one of them can be invx and the other is e
same case for y and z
so in total, 6 cases
thats what i thought, but would that be a mathematically correct proof?
you are correct then
is the task to prove that?
task explicitly asks: if A, does B happen?
A and B being the conditions i gave
sadly stuff is in german so i cant just post
i mean, i thought about that because its commutative
but what if its not
i feel like your argument holds and i can't seem to find a mistake so far
can i also send a picture of how i did the first 2 cases with X as the "real" variable
because i just started uni and i struggle to express everything in math notation
stuff is a lot more strict compared to highschool
go for it
not sure about the (y ist x^-1 und z ist e) part
y*z can be x^-1 while neither y nor z are x^-1 and e
thats actually true
you should just go off the argument that inverses are commutative
i didnt think of that
$x*x^{-1} = x^{-1}*x = e$
artemetra
even in non-abelian groups
how would that work if e=y*invy
wdym
let's look at just $xyz=e$\
we can left-multiply by $x^{-1}$\
$x^{-1}xy*z=x^{-1}e$\
$yz=x^{-1}$\
artemetra
does that make sense?
and by this fact we essentially prove this thing
i get the idea, i was thinking about it this way: what if y is the "real" variable and x and z were the ones complementing it
i feel like that doesnt make too much sense
but i cant explain it
i'm sorry but i am kinda not understanding what you mean by y is the "real" variable
lol
ah wait i was
still thinking of the
"either one can be inverse and the other is neutral", idea
no i thought off one right of the top of my head when you mentioned it
it makes sense
an inverse can be a "product" of two other elements
doesnt have to be itsself and e
6*1/3*1/2 = 1
exactly
5+(-2)+(-3)=0
so yeah
thoughout your entire proof, you should consider y*z as one thing
it's there to spook you off π»
yes but you don't have to do that
if you prove it just for x, you are done
like, completely
you don't even have to write without loss of generality
and you don't need all 6 cases
thats what i dont clearly get
how am i done just with x
wait lemme think about this
because that's what the question is asking you do show lol
wait fuck
x*(y*z)=1 implies (y*z)*x=1. that's it
all you have to show
you are overthinking it too much
it doesnt say that though
what does it say
i completely forgot
i was taking every single case assuming associativity wasnt even there
i put them there for you to make it more clear that y*z is one thing that you shouldn't separate
if i just do it for 1 then its for all of them becasue theyre the same damn thing
yes
personal question: did you sleep well last night?
uuu very intimate
lol
its my first ever excercise with group thery
you ll never sleep as before when you start group theory
will group theory have me contemplating my life?
yes it will
yes
np
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Find all pairs (a, b) with lcm(a, b) = 1500 and gcd(a, b) = 150
(I used a = 2^n * 3^m * 5^k, b = 2^n' * 3^m' * 5^k')
So I got these pairs
But their lcm is 300, so there is something wrong
Their gcd is 150, that's correct
@ivory pivot this is the problem from before
everg
yeah
50 = 2 * 5^2
So these max and mins should be correct
It's probably in the final step
Having these max and mins above, how would you construct the pairs?
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I have these pairs
But the gcd of the first would be 750, for example
the lcm 1500, correct
What's wrong?
Entschuldige die random frage, was isn das fΓΌr ein thema?
oh english server
bruh
What is the topic of this question? I am interested.
elementary number theory (elementare Zahlentheorie)
Interesting (interessant xD)
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I am stuck on exercise 4 part b. I proved that the spaces are separate, but I can't find the linear decomposition ...
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Show your proof that they're separate
Let $f \in W_0 \cap \mathbb{R}_1[X]$. Since f(0) = 0, we have $f(x) = ax + b$ for some $a, b \in \mathbb{R}$. Since f(1) = 0, we have $a+ b = 0$. This means that $f$ must be the zero polynomial since otherwise it would not satisfy $f(0) = 0$. Therefore $W_0 \cap \mathbb{R}_1[X] = {0}$
mechap
That's almost the entire proof
You just need to identify that only linear function in W0 is the 0 polynomial
Oh you did that basically
The remaining is showing any continuous function can be written as a sum of W0 and R1[x]
yes and this is where it gets tricky, because if I have f(x) = g(x) + p(x), p(x) always has a constant while g(x) must be the zero polynomial.
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but f has to be a polynomial
wait no
how do I know that I cover any continuous function in my sum ?
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Maybe you could show they're orthogonal complements of each other
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Divide 15! + 200 with remainder by 182 without a calculator, 182 = 13 * 14.
We have that a = pm + q after the lemma of division of a by m with remainder
But that still doesn't help us in determining p and q
divide 15! + 200 by what?
by 182 = 13 * 14
15! has all those as factors
Yeah, but we have a + 200 there
Then just get the remainder of 200 divided by 182
(a+b) mod n = a mod n + b mod n
So we have [\frac{15! + 200}{13 \cdot 7 \cdot 2} = 15 \cdot 12! + \frac{200}{13 * 14}.]
But 200/(13 * 14) is not in N
Weβre dealing with remainders, not quotients
Not only
5 / 2 = 2 * 2 + 1, 1 is the remainder
It says "divide with remainder"
So we're looking for the whole thing, qm + r
you did the first part already
200 = n * 182 + r
find n and r
n in N, and 0 <= r < 182
Oh
you combine this form
with this fact
To find n and r?
How do we use this for 200 = n * 182 + r?
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think easier
Yeah, n = 1, r = 18
great you're done
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plug that in there and finish the arithmetic
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Into 200?
But then won't we again have a quotient and not a remainder
wot
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is this relating to a course you've been doing? π
haha, where did this question come from ? π
was it hwk or just you exploring maths
because i can think of one way to do this question but im not sure if you know the background to it
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what
using a 2d rotation matrix
not the technical term for it..
does this look familiar to you or nah? π
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:C
i am so confuse
@lone heart
so
how do i solve this mathematical question
?
for E, locate the point on the x-axis and the point on the y-axis
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answer key says iβm wrong, but i canβt find where i messed up π¦
oh i see
(though ig its the same thing)
hodder tripping
161 is way out
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How can I simplify
cos(-x) + sin (-x) / cot (-x)
To a "single trigonometric function with no fractions"?
This is what I've done so far, but I don't know how to simplify it further
Initially I was thinking cos(x) + sin(x)tan(x) but that isn't right
try continuing from the bottom right
cos(x) + sin^2(x)/cos(x)
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Yes but what do I do from there?
Make a common denominator and see what you get
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gΓΆdels argument pretty much relied on the idea that the set of characters is countably infinity and the set of proofs is uncountable, yeah?
like the the set of all possible proofs is the power set of all possible rules
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The relationship uses the fact lambda is an eigenvalue
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can anyone explain how bounds of infinitesimal change in z causes the delta function to disappear?
delta function in question
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They integrated it out
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I have no clue
I think A is one of them judging off those arc thingies
I'm not sure at all
I guess C so a bisector could go down the middle idk
And that would be perpendicular
Is that correct?
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It's C right?
Since it's the bisector if we know one of those then the other will like be proven too idk
it is not C
π π
Why
because what we need doesn't require DA congruent to BD
it is A?
which is not required
Oh yeahhh
if this is the angle bisector and perpendicular bisector, then AD is congruent to AB
yes.
if DA were congruent to BD, this would be an equilateral triangle.
which is not required.
we just need an isosceles for angle bisector to be perpendicular bisector.
which homework module is this?
what is the website called
But this is the second to last unit in integrated math 1
or the applet
On Khan academy
Like proving congruence or something
Some questions are soo annoying (proofs π₯Ά )
looks like Zoe claimed that step 2 was given when it wasn't. (it's true though)
by vertical angle theorem
I don't know what you mean
So is its A right
The letters fr
"fr"?
For real
π π
But anyways it's A right cuz the reason isn't the correct reason
For step 2
the problem is that Zoe assumed a congruence between angles was given when it wasn't. However, they are congruent by Vertical Angle (VA) Theorem.
So it's A yes (plz confirm)
and you should know what that is
so you can pass your test.
because it's really really
( π )
you should look at your notes
Prob my second least favorite subject in math
they help
I don't have those
why not
what do you do during class when everyone else is taking notes
I have to do another geometry unit to get mastery for IM1π π π
Uhhh this is just online
Khan academy
Just
Watch vids
Then do the
Practice
I just skip to taking quizzes cuz it's faster
Mastery
Anyways
Omg do u think I can do linear algebra after integrated math 3
WHAT
Omg like a real teacher
but
you won't really have anything fun to do with it until you know calculus
and/or differential equations (which involves calculus)
I think a big part of the satisfaction some people feel in geometry comes from knowing they can prove things that look complicated at the outset
You will find more and more that your ability to solve a problem is going to depend a lot on recognizing what kind of problem you are dealing with and what tools you have to solve it
The most fun problems are the ones you have no idea how to classify, so you don't know right away how to solve it
yes, it is ok
I will become 'him'
The one above all
who is that supposed to be
that must be a new one
I'm not that old π
>:P
laters
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Why is it that the function $f\left(x\right)=\frac{x}{x^{2}+1}$ has two horizontal asymptotes, while the function $f\left(x\right)=\frac{1}{x^{2}+1}$ only has one?
Shinutsi
They have the same denominator
and afaik, we get the H.A. by equating the denominator to zero
are you sure about this
about which part
what are the two horizontal asymptotes of y = x/(x^2+1)?
no, that's for vertical asymptotes.
$y = \frac{x}{\sqrt{(x^2+1)}}$ and $y = \frac{1}{\sqrt{(x^2+1)}}$
ohhhhh
Shinutsi
horizontal asymptotes, if they exist, have their $y$-coordinates equal to $\lim_{x \to +\infty} f(x)$ and $\lim_{x \to -\infty} f(x)$.
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i think you use the remainder theorem (vaguely remember it and definietly forgot how to do it) like the x-a thing
other than that im completely stuck
no
you in fact do not use "the x-a thing".
this is not about divisibility of polynomials at all.
do you know what an odd number is?
yeah
ok, can you tell me in your own words what an odd number is
cant be divided by a even number without turning into decimals
formally correct, but clunky and unworkable.
an odd number is a number expressible as 2n+1, where n is an integer.
are you telling me this is your first time hearing about the proper definition of odd
yeah ive never seen that 2n+1 lol
algebra 2/precalc doing it at the same time
here's how to start: let your first odd number be 2n + 1, the next one 2n + 3, then 2n + 5, see if you can figure it out from there
oops, sorry
also, what do you think you need to arrive at to complete the proof? what would a remainder of 11 when divided by 12 look like?
in terms of a simple algebraic expression?
^ ?
wdym
well it's a bit hard to start off on this proof unless you know where you are heading
how will it look like to end up showing an expression has that remainder of 11 when divided by 12?
this sort of shit
um actually never seen that
example...if i am dividing 35 by 12 i get 2 and remainder 11
11/12??
so i can simply write 35 = 2 * 12 + 11
oh
more generally, ANY number n that has remainder 11 when divided by 12 will look like this: n = 12q + 11 where q is some integer
so basically what you want to show is that:
$(2n+1)^2 + (2n+3)^2 + (2n+5)^2 = 12q + 11$
Soosh
ohh
for some q, so you would just manipulate stuff around algebraically
you would want to manipulate (2n+1)^2 + (2n+3)^2 + (2n+5)^2, to be more specific.
and get it to look like 12 * (something) + 11
do i expand th ebrackets
probably helps
i assume you mean the parenthesis
see if you can do the problem from here
yes, do that.
i have to gtg rn but thanks for the help guys
i didn't pick 35 on purpose as an example but i guess it was a relevant choice π
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Is there any way to find all the cube roots of a 2x2 identity matrix?
I've found (cos(2pi/3), sin(2pi/3), -sin(2pi/3), cos(2pi/3)) and (0,1,-1,-1), but I'm not sure if there's a way to generalize the solutions
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How do I solve this
well lets go option by option
where is the vertex of the parabola?
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right
so the first option is correct
yup
now is the parabola facing upwards or downwards
well
is the coefficient of x^2 negative or positive
positive
yeah
try expanding out $-3(x-1)^2-9$ by hand
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no π
if we expand this out, we get $-3(x^2-2x+1)-9=-3x^2+6x-12$ right
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you dont know how to multiply (x-1)(x-1)?
yeah
negative
don't go crazy
i'm just dumb
whats the coefficient of x^2
so i can understand why
its the number in front of x^2
well the number in front of x^2 is -3 isn't it?
whats the coef of x^2 in (x^2-x^2)
0 π
0
yes
so yeah negative
down
right
yeah
so then that's 3 isn't it?
ye
yes
yes
it opens downards is right cuz we just said that
it opens downward
vertex is -1, -9 wrong
like we said
it's 1, -9
correct
vertex is highest point yup
now
the 5th one
i dont get
cuz its right
y is -9
well not quite
why not
OH
then how would we get values of y higher than -9?
so y CANT be greater than 9
right.
and xi s the symmetry
there w ego
now i understand
i wanna give you a big kiss
thanks folks
wait lemme see before i go
this is
the same thing
right
except i have to remove
well ok
lets just check this
is there any reason the domain wouldn't have any of the real numbers?
+3?
nah
mhm
the domain is
so we know that 2 is wrong
3 here right
and 1 is right
the domain is 3?
do you know what domain means?
yeah
damn really hurt
domain is the set of possibilities u can put in x basically
right?
yeah its the values that x can take
yup
now what do we know about the range?
its 5
the minimum or maximum is 5?
positive
right, so is the vertex the minimum or maximum
if its facing up
yes
exactly
sure
well
how do we calculate distance?
or actually we dont need tha i misread
that solution looks right
hollon what
we went into physics
π
so if we have two points (a,b) and (c,d)
good
got me scared
if we have these two points
yeah
alr
yeah
we took the points (1,2) and (4,5)
and we made this right triangle with the horizontal distance and vertical distance and the line between them
does that make sense
alright so
we want to find the distance between the two points
which is equal to the length of the hypotenuse right?
and we can pretty easily find the lengths of the two legs
since they're just 4-1 and 5-2
right
i
dont know
how to do that
but
im assuming its just a right triangle
so ill just connect them
to a right angle
easy
hmmm
i guess that should work
so then lets say the distance between teh points is d
then we know that d^2=(length of the horizontal side)^2+(length of the vertical side)^2
its just the pythagorean theorem
so then d^2=(4-1)^2+(5-2)^2
and that simplifies to 3^2+3^2=18
and then we have d^2=18
and $d=\sqrt{18}$
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i know that was a little fast but did you get it?
not quite
this is too much for my tiny brain
can we go through a different route
well i mean
for you to understand the distance between points
you kind of need to know how distance between points works
waitttt
i can give you a khan academy article/video if that would work better
I KNOW WHY
I STUDIED THIS BEFORE
its just a law that we took
when we have
2 lines and something left out in the middle
we add a line in the middle so we have them parralel
smt like that
does that work
uh
can you explain to me how that would help you find distance?
im not following sorry
it wouldnt
its fine
but
we have this law right
hold on let me draw
it wouldnt help u find the distance
but
if we have
2 lines
and left out space in the middle
we add a line
thats just the locus
of those 2 lines
the distance between them
thats how my school takes it atleast
so youre saying that if you have two parallel lines
the line that's parallel to them and halfway between them is equidistant?
yeah that works for this problem i suppose
its not super generalizable but it works well enough here
