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they use h,k instead of alpha and better
more ideal so you don't mix up a with alpha
you can manipulate your expression to this form with the method of
completing the square
can u show me because i did it and im not sure
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@lone heart help me
show what you did
ok
I found a b and c
a= 2
b = (-16)
c= 24
alpha is = -b/2a
= 16/2*2
= 4
beta = - delta/ 4a^2
= (b^2-4ac)/4a^2
= -(16^2 - 4224) / 4*2^2
= -(256-192)/16
= -64/16
= (-4)
finally = a(x- alpha)^2+ beta
= 2(x-4)^2 + (-4)
@gray isle
1 sec
ok
your formula for beta is wrong
how?
denominator should be just 4a, not 4a^2
no it is 4a^2
where are you reading that?
my math book...
show exactly what your math book is saying
is wrong
-8
yes
= 2(x-4)^2 + (-8)
but now
a((alpha-alpha)^2 + delta)
= a(0 + delta)
= 0 - delta
= (-8)
now is this correct?
@gray isle
AAHHHHH
that's fishy
where's that coming from
idk man ur supposed to help me
you're the one that typed it
i'm trying to figure out what property you're trying to apply
and whether the property you have copied down was invalid or you weren't applying it properly
one second
the coordonates of the top of the function are alpha and beta
hence alpha is equal to x
f(alpha) = beta
@gray isle
depending on the sign of the leading coefficient: a,
f(alpha) = beta
will give you the max or min
that doesn't explain where
a((alpha-alpha)^2 + delta)
is coming from
nor anything after that line
this is the canonic thing
its not
a(x-alpha)^2 + beta
yes, and what i'm quoting is very different to what you had been typing
$$a(x-\alpha)^2 + \beta$$
is not the same as
$$a((x-\alpha)^2 + \Delta)$$
ℝam()n()v
lune
no
if you wanted to involve Delta then you'd have
$$a\br{(x-a)^2 - \frac{\Delta}{4a^2}}$$
or
$$a(x-a)^2 - \frac{\Delta}{4a}$$
ℝam()n()v
so it is right if we do it that way?
there are multiple ways to do this,
i wouldn't really recommend using these presestablished shortcuts
as you mess one thing up as you've done multiple times now
and everything falls apart
its important to understand where these come from
but anyway after getting
$$f(x)= 2(x-4)^2 + (-8)$$
you'll get min from $f(4)$
ℝam()n()v
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by thinking about the min/max value of 2(x-4)^2
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hello I need assistance with this problem
Where F is fibonacci?
Prof didn't say anything so probably yeah?
saw this in google but i dont understand a single thing
Ugh even google can't be rigorous
Anyways, the fibonacci sequence is defined as :
The first two numbers are F0 = 0 and F1= 1, and every next number is the sum of the two previous numbers
So we start with 0, 1
The next number is 0+1 = 1
So 0, 1, 1
The next number is 1+1 = 2
And so on...
yup...
Ok so
my intial thought was substituting the numbers greater or equal to 3
and I concluded that the statement was false but now that F is actually Fibonacci
im lost
Substituting for each value one by one?
yeah wait ill send my answer
i did it like this cause I thought F was just like function
is the problem different from an counter-example in an inductive reasoning?
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The bisection method:
Can someone help me understand the question here?
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Can someone help me solve this? Its some exercise for arithmetic sequence?
to solve for d, this is a quadratic
expand it out
(hint: factor out 1/2 from each bracket first to make your life easier)
From the video i watched,apparently this is solution
And i dont know where did he get 17d?
and the video doesnt, but i would srsly recommend this
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Can someone show how to do this?
i would put each thing under a radical first
I would suggest writing 162 and 1250 as a product of their prime factors
$x^{\frac 1n}=\sqrt[n]{x}$
deus ex machina
what should be the answer?
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i dont want helper role
how to delete the role
channels and roles top left
then?
deselect the i want to help others
deselect the really want to help as well
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Prove that the following is irrational:
i know there are probably countless proofs for irrationality
but i've tried using some of the techniques
to no avail
contradiction might work
yeah but how exactly
cuz taking 3rd power won't be as easy as if it would be with only 1 cube root
I think maybe prove cbrt(7) and cbrt(5) to be irrational individually and then blah blah blah maybe
well it won't work tho cuz then i'd still need to prove that difference is irrational
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Yo
How do i factor this polynomial?
3T^2R^2+13TR+12?
My teacher didnt teach us how to do these types and the HW is due in 2ish hours
Could you write that?
you can subsitute u=TR, so you get 3u²+13u+12
What would i do from there?
Factor normally?
yes
It doesn't matter
Did u mistype as 2 instead of 3?
Hello?
Yea
Is my internet okay?
Yes
So its not just me okay
What happened
im not sure
My discord is also buggin
I can
Very strange
Yeah
I can read you guys now
So here did u mistype 2 when its supposed to be 3?
yes it was a mistake thank you for noticing it
Okay tyvm
Your answer should be (3tr+4)(tr+3)
Yessir
yes
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yo ram
don't say the answer
let them figure it out themselves
but what if he was stuck
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is there a way to combine $e^x+e^{2x}$
Jash
i’m trying to solve $e^x+e^{2x}=5$
Jash
No
You can factor out something however
Thought that isn't necessary in your case
I'd use $a^{mn} = (a^m)^n$
USS-Enterprise
Then substitute something for e^x and solve the quadratic equation
Yeah
You can take the e^x common out of the two terms
Yeah, either way works
U can then apply log on both sides to find the value of x
Yes
then take ln?
oh
e^x(1+e^x)=5
Right
x+ln(1+e^x)=ln(5)
Substitute e^x=t to get a quadratic
ohhh
This will make it a lil complicated
t(1+t)=5
Yep
t²+t-5=0
Find out the roots
Replace it with e^x
ok ye ty
Wlcm
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can someone pls help with this? im not sure how to do parts b and c
multiply the numerator and denominator by 4(4+h)
After you've done that, I can show you another, much faster way to compute this limit (assuming you know derivatives, though that might not be the case)
like this?
oh yeah i got it
thanks
you can show me now if you'd like
Have you done derivatives?
yeah
Then you can notice that this is the derivative of $f(x) = \frac{1}{x}$ evaluated at $x = 4$.
Though note that you are using the power rule here, which comes from the limit definition
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for our homework we were given questions she never covered in class, so im kinda stuck trying to figure out how to use the sec function on my calculator
i'm getting odd answers that i feel aren't right because my classmates are just saying to use a calculator lol
No calculator?
Not sure how you would do this without a calculator
however ur final answer is 0.06827
so I assuming 0.1
bro
Cos^-1(1/x)=sec^-1(x)
That's it
If you want cotinverse (14.623) just put taninverse(1/14.623) on the calculator
im getting 89.7
for
Just saying
cos^-1(1/191.3)
X=cot(14.623)
are we doing the top question or bottom
Bottom yes?
You got it right tho
2 decimals
-1.01976
It should be -1.02
Round off to nearest integer
You have cot^-1(x)=14.623
You have to find x
So you apply cot on both sides to get the value of x
Cot(cot^-1(x)=cot(14.623)
Get it?
Cot and cot^-1() cancels out
x = cot14.623
So you're left with x=cot14.623
Yessir
i feel lost bc there was no clarification on the subject we learning on so the things we learned previously were constantly marked wrong
Like what?
even though that stuff we learned on our previous course for advanced mathematics didnt cover these simple functions since our course was
like a sped up course
How old are you?
so right now im confused and afraid to get anything wrong now
21
not math smart
thanks anyways
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ok
uh
maybe a little more help wouldnt hurt
sorry just getting a diagram ready
what
Pitagorian theorem ?
i mean i think you're given two
an angle and a measurement idk if theyre both angles are they
ok wait
you can find the sides with three angles?
c is not an angle
but there's a problem, is c=AC or c=BC ?
yeah she never clarifies that
thats why im so confused
so i gotta like guess it
or assume
whats happening
use Pythagorean theorem to find b
b isn't an angle
Use the sin law
or just $\cos(A)=\frac cb$
deus ex machina
Here's the standard notation
That side opposite to angle A is a
Side opposite to B is b
yeah so the given measurement of c=23.0
how would you find everything else with just one measurement
use this
this is a retangle triangle
dawhg what is a sinus theorem
Sine theorem
i don't know what c is
so how could i even calculate anything with the degrees
of 90 and and 21.8
Dawg just look at this
a/sin(A)=b/sin(B)=c/sin(C)
Find b from that
Then apply Pythagoras
she never clarified what c = 23 is
yeah
so if we assume that c is the hypothenuse or sum
its just nothing it dont work
Could you send the entire question?
sure
It's so confusing
thats what IM SAYING
With the option too, please.
It's options?
You have to make your own stuff and submit it?
Why are the variables different in the other picture you should me? Which one are we supposed to refer?
this one?
i put my answers into a trig calc to calc the missing sides to make sure my answers are right
if u assume the hypothenuse is 23 cm
u cant find anything else
but my TEACHER
didnt clarify which side the only measurement she given is
so im starting to think it may be impossible unless i assume c is another side
which is 50/50
Are These options directly under the question?
nope
Then?
No like. Is there a seperate site where you submit this?
its on my school website
And the question?
the homework she gave us
accessible on the school website
so i may have to assume she might have made an error or sum
Yessir
theyre both separate
No, right?
the orange one is me using a trig calculator
its openbook homework
she dont even mind if u cheat or do anything
but i dont
get it
i want to UNDERSTAND
is c always the hypothenuse tho
Side opposite to the A is a
Using the sine rule
SinB/b=sinC/c
We already know B,C and c
yeah
We just need b
90, 21.8 and 68.2
Sin90/b=sin21.8/23
is it 0.07614642763
Nope
i got 56.99
idk u uh
Sorry
kk
she never covered this which is crazy
ik she expects us to probably know how to do this
but i dont so like
its really weird she doesnt explain HOW to do anything to solve these questions so i gotta look on a discord and youtube lol
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where does the y=alpha... eqn comes from
i have 2 different doubts
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It's a sine curve, no?
Graph on left, function on right
@late moss
Not if you want to capture EVERY sine shaped graph
The amplitude and the wave length are parameters
alpha times
Don't just remember, think of why that's true
by dy/dx
why is that true tho
yes
What if my amplitude is actually 250 dogs/hr
then?
Obviously I need to scale the graph to fit the actual situation
alpha =250 in that case
yup i understood
in idea
ideal*
sinx graph
alpha is 1
and beta is 1
so for diff scales these parameters will change
Yes, yes
.
Especially if you are representing a physical system
dy/dx is sin=cos
yes
now?
You set the derivative = 0
voila, find the solutions
Are you talking about sin + cos?
yes
I don't know the solutions off the top of my head
for 45 it gives max
But yes, the mins and maxs will be infinite
Both are periodic
cant we just use calculus
Yes
like we did to find max val
Find the critical points and classify as min or max
.
You need to know, at some point, the specific theta value you're talking about. Consult the unit circle and do the calculation
ahh
we need to put theta to check
so for 45 its coming negaitve
so it will give max
but for what will it be+ +ve
well, ok, you did the calcs
cos 45 is 1/root 2
the derivative of sin+ cos is cos-sin
so cos=sin at 45 deg and 135 deg
ok, so check the sign of the second derivative at the other critical point
send your work for that?
for what?
Are you sure 135 is a critical point?
kkk lemme check
Or, more intuitively, the min will be in the lower left quadrant of the unit circle
because sin and cos are negative there
yup
it is the
crit point
thnx alot
fro this fxn
how to find min value by calculus
@plucky sluice
dy/dx is bcos theta = a sin theta
nvm got it
can it be a st line between the points too?/
@plucky sluice
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What's the thing p(A,B) means in the context of something like cartesianb product?
It has to do with it but I've forgotten what it's called
Do you have an example of it from somewhere
I think it's the set of all subsets?
what would that be called
Power set but that would be P(A x B)
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anyone?
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Hey
which one?
18
if you've done 16 and 17, it's the same process, just with arccos instead of arcsin/arctan
Ok
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On question 45 the answer is p = 4csc(phi)
But i can only simplify it to 4 tan (theta) / sin (phi)
This is my work
Is there something wrong with what i did or am i just missing the next step
And what would the next step be
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does csc(phi) means 1/cos (phi) ?
No it’s 1/ sin (phi)
im not familiar with what csc is
oh cosec
Yeah
P is the distance between the point in space and the origin
ohk
i guess ive got the ans
x^2 + y^2 = 16 is a circle with centre as origin and radius 4]
Yeah
I have the answer
It is p = 4 csc (phi)
I just don’t know how to get to there from the original equation
i guess there is no need to introduce another variable theta when it is given in phi
Theta is needed when translating from rectangular to spherical
oh i forgot
X = p sin (phi) cos (theta)
@dreamy root
i guess you did mistake in dividing
ig you need to divide with sin(theta)
it said X = p sin theta cos phi
thats the mistake ig]
yes -+=- --=+
Thanks
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guyz i want to know about matrices
oh ok
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this is mechanics
so, my calculations were that the normal reaction force would be the downward component of the 8N, + mg.
but in the answer, its MG - the downward component of the force
whats going on here? did i misinterpret the question? or am i just wrong
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show your work
its long and complicated but sure
ignore the red pen
thats me going over it afterwards
basically, i did 0.3g + 8sin(10) and they did - instead
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hi
So how come in the 2nd mile it is doubled
$6
But in this problem
It is trippled to $9
😭
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hey
do we got a sheet for properties of logs
or like a list
for expanding and simplifying

uh okay I suppose
I'm at my girlfriend's house, I don't have any of my notes unfortunately
do you know the propeties of log ?
Google one
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This is what I get and I have to proof a=c
It is probably like the most simple solution ever but idk why but my mind is just not finctioning
I have been staring at this problem for way too long already and all I have is nothing
I tried that somewhere then I got stuck
now you subsitute a from the second equation and you get a=(a+b)-b
then subtract b from both sides which leads you to: a-b=a-b
then you add c to both sides
a-b+c=a-b+c
you're basically using subsitution
But
You substitute with something that is from the exact same equation
Which just leads to 0=0
@sour raft could you please help me out here, my explaning is really bad
Yea sure
Im only in 9th grade but i think i can give this a shot
Lets start from the beginning
and using a different approach
Owki
Lets assume a=c is true, lets see if we can find any contridictions
first lets start with a+b=c+d
this can be rewritten, as the person above said, to a=c+d-b
since we assume a=c, that means that d-b must equal 0 since otherwise, c wouldnt be the same as a
which meands d=b
Ye but searching for contradictions won't be enough cuz if we don't find contradictions we will still have to prove it
Yes yes I do appriciate. Your help
I found something on google
It is quite confusing ngl
think of it as a rectangle
yes
now youre getting me confused
But we don't know that the sides are similar
But guy guys I found something on google
What
Let me write it out I will show then
Were trying to do this not through google-
I'm trying to understand
Uuh ok I won't spoil
could you solve this as a proof?
You can figure it out yourself
oh sorry
my bad
i'm in honors geometry so i wouldn't know because i'm starting to learn proofs
Ah
wait hold on
we got the thing that a=c+d-b, we all agree on that right?
Yeah we all do
Yes that's correct logically
in the other example with multiplication, we can solve for a by dividing by b
so we get a=(c*d)/b
no
Why? Doesn't it apply for all equations
since the original thing is a*b=c*d dividing by b gets us (a*b)/b=(c*d)/b
Oh, my bad
since the right side of the equation both multiplies and divides by b, you get a=(c*d)/b
anyway
if we solve for c instead, we get c=a+b-d and c=(a*b)/d
so now we have 4 equations
a=c+d-b
a=(c*d)/b
c=a+b-d and
c=(a*b)/d
i dont think we need to
Okay
yup
Not rlly
a=c+d-b
a=(c*d)/b
just a pair of these equations we can see that c+d-b=(c*d)/b
Ye
we can factor out the c in the left lane to get c+d-b=c*(d/b)
oh yea
since both sides contain c being modified in different ways, we must conclude that they either do nothing or change C by the same amount
in this case, since the operations are different (adding a difference in one case, and multiplying a divison in another) , they have to do nothing
whic means d-b=0 and d/b=1, which is only possible if b=d
now back to the original a+b=c+d, if b=d, then this can be rewritten as a+b=c+b, and since the +b is the same on either side, we can remove it by subtracting b on both side and get a=c
ill take note of that
idk if that works
i think it would
@green sable ?
Ye
But I'm unsure if it is enough reasoning
It's university
They are very strict on that stuff
What was the command to close a ticket
.close
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I need help figuring this out pls (the answer is -90 but idk hwo to get there)
multiply everything by 15
move all the x's to one side and all the constants to the other and divide by x's coefficient
how do i move all the x's to one side-
multiply everything by 15 to get rid of the fractions
so its easier to understand
by subtracting -2/3x
no, teach him not to be afraid of fracs
if the operation is a +4, you -4 from that side and subtract it from the other side
every operation you do on both side has to be equal
so turn it to 2/3x + 4 - 4 = 3/5x - 2 - 4??
he's right you have to isolate x so x = 90
yes but you simplifiy it
so its 2/3x = 3/5x - 6
ok and then
then what I would do is get rid of teh fractions
you do that by multiplying both sides by 3
because if 3 is on top and bottom they cancel out and the fraction is gone
in the last one i just pulled x out and devided by the coeff
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I need some help.
Write your question
what do you need help with on this problem
^
you need the whole problem solved or what
Is this correct RREF:
| 1 0 -1 | 16 |
| 0 1 2 | -23 |
What operations did you do?
Then I multiplied R2 by -1 as well
ok
a lot of these steps seem unnessary but lets go with it
so you have R2 as
-2 -1 0 | -9
Actually, before I did that I did 2R1 + R2
So I have
1 1 1 | -7
0 -1 -2 | 23
Then I multiplied R2 by -1.
1 1 1 | -7
0 1 2 | -23
Then to remove the 1 I did:
R1 + (-1R2) -> R1
1 0 -1 | -16
0 1 2 | -23
2R1 + R2 into R2?
Yes
Why isn't this already enough?
They want it in RREF
So is this RREF correct:
1 0 -1 | -16
0 1 2 | -23
And how do I solve for x1, x2, x3 in this case?
@golden onyx
Did you die
lol sorry abit busy