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gray isle
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ok, other places refer to that as vertex form

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they use h,k instead of alpha and better

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more ideal so you don't mix up a with alpha

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you can manipulate your expression to this form with the method of
completing the square

molten frigate
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can u show me because i did it and im not sure

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?

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<@&286206848099549185>

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@lone heart help me

gray isle
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show what you did

molten frigate
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ok

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I found a b and c

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a= 2

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b = (-16)

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c= 24

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alpha is = -b/2a

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= 16/2*2

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= 4

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beta = - delta/ 4a^2

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= (b^2-4ac)/4a^2

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= -(16^2 - 4224) / 4*2^2

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= -(256-192)/16

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= -64/16

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= (-4)

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finally = a(x- alpha)^2+ beta

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= 2(x-4)^2 + (-4)

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@gray isle

gray isle
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1 sec

molten frigate
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ok

gray isle
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your formula for beta is wrong

molten frigate
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how?

gray isle
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denominator should be just 4a, not 4a^2

molten frigate
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no it is 4a^2

gray isle
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where are you reading that?

molten frigate
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my math book...

gray isle
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show exactly what your math book is saying

molten frigate
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ok

gray isle
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is wrong

molten frigate
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ok yes u are right

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so then i just remove that

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so its 8

gray isle
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-8

molten frigate
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yes

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= 2(x-4)^2 + (-8)

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but now

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a((alpha-alpha)^2 + delta)

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= a(0 + delta)

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= 0 - delta

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= (-8)

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now is this correct?

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@gray isle

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AAHHHHH

gray isle
molten frigate
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why?

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<@&286206848099549185>

gray isle
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where's that coming from

molten frigate
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idk man ur supposed to help me

gray isle
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you're the one that typed it

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i'm trying to figure out what property you're trying to apply
and whether the property you have copied down was invalid or you weren't applying it properly

molten frigate
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one second

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the coordonates of the top of the function are alpha and beta

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hence alpha is equal to x

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f(alpha) = beta

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@gray isle

gray isle
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depending on the sign of the leading coefficient: a,
f(alpha) = beta
will give you the max or min

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that doesn't explain where

a((alpha-alpha)^2 + delta)
is coming from

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nor anything after that line

molten frigate
gray isle
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its not

molten frigate
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a(x-alpha)^2 + beta

gray isle
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yes, and what i'm quoting is very different to what you had been typing

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$$a(x-\alpha)^2 + \beta$$
is not the same as
$$a((x-\alpha)^2 + \Delta)$$

ocean sealBOT
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ℝam()n()v

molten frigate
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wait no no beta is equal to delta/4ac

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$$a((x-\alpha)^2 + \Delta/4ac)$$

ocean sealBOT
gray isle
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no

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if you wanted to involve Delta then you'd have

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$$a\br{(x-a)^2 - \frac{\Delta}{4a^2}}$$
or
$$a(x-a)^2 - \frac{\Delta}{4a}$$

ocean sealBOT
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ℝam()n()v

molten frigate
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yes sorry

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you are correct

gray isle
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but going back to this is unnecssary

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you already did the work with this

molten frigate
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so it is right if we do it that way?

gray isle
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there are multiple ways to do this,

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i wouldn't really recommend using these presestablished shortcuts

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as you mess one thing up as you've done multiple times now
and everything falls apart

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its important to understand where these come from

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but anyway after getting
$$f(x)= 2(x-4)^2 + (-8)$$
you'll get min from $f(4)$

ocean sealBOT
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ℝam()n()v

molten frigate
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alright great

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but now how can i find this

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f(x) > or = to -8

lone heartBOT
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@molten frigate Has your question been resolved?

gray isle
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by thinking about the min/max value of 2(x-4)^2

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river aspen
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hello I need assistance with this problem

pallid scarab
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Where F is fibonacci?

river aspen
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Prof didn't say anything so probably yeah?

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saw this in google but i dont understand a single thing

pallid scarab
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Ugh even google can't be rigorous

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Anyways, the fibonacci sequence is defined as :
The first two numbers are F0 = 0 and F1= 1, and every next number is the sum of the two previous numbers

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So we start with 0, 1

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The next number is 0+1 = 1

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So 0, 1, 1

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The next number is 1+1 = 2

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And so on...

river aspen
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yup...

pallid scarab
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Ok so

river aspen
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my intial thought was substituting the numbers greater or equal to 3

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and I concluded that the statement was false but now that F is actually Fibonacci

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im lost

pallid scarab
river aspen
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yeah wait ill send my answer

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i did it like this cause I thought F was just like function

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is the problem different from an counter-example in an inductive reasoning?

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@river aspen Has your question been resolved?

molten frigate
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no

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oh ooh

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alpine sable
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.open

sonic harbor
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The bisection method:
Can someone help me understand the question here?

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alpine sable
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Can someone help me solve this? Its some exercise for arithmetic sequence?

pale kestrel
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to solve for d, this is a quadratic

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expand it out

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(hint: factor out 1/2 from each bracket first to make your life easier)

alpine sable
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From the video i watched,apparently this is solution

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And i dont know where did he get 17d?

pale kestrel
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well show your own work expanding the brackets

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because thats what u should get

pale kestrel
alpine sable
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This is what i got

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Just flip your phone xD

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proud anchor
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Can someone show how to do this?

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wet linden
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i would put each thing under a radical first

proven leaf
lethal citrus
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$x^{\frac 1n}=\sqrt[n]{x}$

ocean sealBOT
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deus ex machina

proud anchor
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what should be the answer?

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bold siren
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i dont want helper role

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bold siren
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how to delete the role

gray isle
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channels and roles top left

bold siren
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then?

gray isle
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deselect the i want to help others

bold siren
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thanks

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i got 2k pings

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my god

gray isle
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deselect the really want to help as well

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hearty gulch
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Prove that the following is irrational:

hearty gulch
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i know there are probably countless proofs for irrationality

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but i've tried using some of the techniques

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to no avail

quartz mica
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contradiction might work

hearty gulch
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yeah but how exactly

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cuz taking 3rd power won't be as easy as if it would be with only 1 cube root

quartz mica
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I think maybe prove cbrt(7) and cbrt(5) to be irrational individually and then blah blah blah maybe

hearty gulch
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well it won't work tho cuz then i'd still need to prove that difference is irrational

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yoooo

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bleak nexus
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Yo

lone heartBOT
bleak nexus
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How do i factor this polynomial?

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3T^2R^2+13TR+12?

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My teacher didnt teach us how to do these types and the HW is due in 2ish hours

cinder thicket
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Could you write that?

bleak nexus
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Sure

rancid hazel
cinder thicket
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Ok

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Yeah

bleak nexus
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Factor normally?

rancid hazel
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yes

bleak nexus
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And why is it U specifically?

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or does it not matter?

cinder thicket
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It doesn't matter

bleak nexus
rancid hazel
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Hello?

bleak nexus
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Yea

rancid hazel
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Is my internet okay?

cinder thicket
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Yes

bleak nexus
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So its not just me okay

rancid hazel
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What happened

bleak nexus
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im not sure

cinder thicket
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My discord is also buggin

rancid hazel
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hello?

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can you guys read this message?

bleak nexus
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I can

rancid hazel
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Very strange

bleak nexus
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Yeah

rancid hazel
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I can read you guys now

bleak nexus
rancid hazel
bleak nexus
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Okay tyvm

cinder thicket
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Your answer should be (3tr+4)(tr+3)

bleak nexus
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@rancid hazel@cinder thicket oh so at the end i put in the correct symbols?

cinder thicket
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Yessir

bleak nexus
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Thank you so much

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rancid hazel
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don't say the answer

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let them figure it out themselves

cinder thicket
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He got it so..

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You right tho man

rancid hazel
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but what if he was stuck

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vapid steppe
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is there a way to combine $e^x+e^{2x}$

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vapid steppe
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i’m trying to solve $e^x+e^{2x}=5$

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unkempt robin
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No

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You can factor out something however

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Thought that isn't necessary in your case

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I'd use $a^{mn} = (a^m)^n$

ocean sealBOT
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USS-Enterprise

unkempt robin
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Then substitute something for e^x and solve the quadratic equation

royal latch
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Yeah
You can take the e^x common out of the two terms

unkempt robin
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Yeah, either way works

royal latch
unkempt robin
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Yes

vapid steppe
vapid steppe
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e^x(1+e^x)=5

royal latch
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Right

vapid steppe
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x+ln(1+e^x)=ln(5)

royal latch
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Substitute e^x=t to get a quadratic

vapid steppe
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ohhh

royal latch
vapid steppe
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t(1+t)=5

royal latch
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Yep

vapid steppe
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t²+t-5=0

royal latch
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Find out the roots
Replace it with e^x

vapid steppe
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ok ye ty

royal latch
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Wlcm

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jaunty sierra
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can someone pls help with this? im not sure how to do parts b and c

vapid steppe
thick lynx
jaunty sierra
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oh yeah i got it

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thanks

jaunty sierra
thick lynx
swift tulip
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l-hospitals!!!!

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whatddup folks

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how can i help

jaunty sierra
thick lynx
# jaunty sierra yeah

Then you can notice that this is the derivative of $f(x) = \frac{1}{x}$ evaluated at $x = 4$.

jaunty sierra
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ohhhh

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that's so much easier

thick lynx
jaunty sierra
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got it

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thank you

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hard marten
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for our homework we were given questions she never covered in class, so im kinda stuck trying to figure out how to use the sec function on my calculator

i'm getting odd answers that i feel aren't right because my classmates are just saying to use a calculator lol

hard marten
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issue: idk how to do this

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i need hints on how to solve this

cinder thicket
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No calculator?

kind patio
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Not sure how you would do this without a calculator

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however ur final answer is 0.06827

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so I assuming 0.1

hard marten
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how did you get that

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all you did was sec 191.3 on your calc

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?

cinder thicket
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Sec inverse=cosinverse(1/x)

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Similarly cotinverse(x)=tan inverse(1/x)

hard marten
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do i just use the values given and put it into cos

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or cos^-1

cinder thicket
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bro

hard marten
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she literally said nothing

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the whole lecture

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so i have no idea what im doing

cinder thicket
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Cos^-1(1/x)=sec^-1(x)

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That's it

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If you want cotinverse (14.623) just put taninverse(1/14.623) on the calculator

hard marten
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im getting 89.7

hard marten
cinder thicket
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Just saying

hard marten
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cos^-1(1/191.3)

cinder thicket
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You need to find x tho

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Apply cot on both sides

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Cot and cotinverse cancel out

hard marten
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so im left with cot 191.3

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or

cinder thicket
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X=cot(14.623)

hard marten
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are we doing the top question or bottom

cinder thicket
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Bottom yes?

hard marten
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na im looking at top

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i dont even think my input is right at all

cinder thicket
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You got it right tho

hard marten
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89.7?

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or the one i inputed

cinder thicket
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2 decimals

hard marten
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-1.01976

cinder thicket
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It should be -1.02

hard marten
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its 89.70

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ah

cinder thicket
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Round off to nearest integer

hard marten
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so its just 1/cot^-1(14.623)

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for the second one

cinder thicket
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You have cot^-1(x)=14.623

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You have to find x

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So you apply cot on both sides to get the value of x

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Cot(cot^-1(x)=cot(14.623)

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Get it?

hard marten
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so left cancels out

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cuz u cant cot a cot

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and u just gotta cot 14.623

cinder thicket
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Cot and cot^-1() cancels out

hard marten
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x = cot14.623

cinder thicket
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So you're left with x=cot14.623

hard marten
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let me calc

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3.83275

cinder thicket
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Yessir

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Now round off to first decimal

hard marten
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so just 3.8 bc its only

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one dec

cinder thicket
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Yessir

hard marten
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i feel lost bc there was no clarification on the subject we learning on so the things we learned previously were constantly marked wrong

cinder thicket
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Like what?

hard marten
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even though that stuff we learned on our previous course for advanced mathematics didnt cover these simple functions since our course was

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like a sped up course

cinder thicket
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How old are you?

hard marten
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so right now im confused and afraid to get anything wrong now

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21

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not math smart

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thanks anyways

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hard marten
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ok

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uh

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maybe a little more help wouldnt hurt

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sorry just getting a diagram ready

hard marten
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what

lethal citrus
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Pitagorian theorem ?

hard marten
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i mean i think you're given two

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an angle and a measurement idk if theyre both angles are they

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ok wait

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you can find the sides with three angles?

lethal citrus
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c is not an angle

hard marten
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c is lower cased

lethal citrus
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but there's a problem, is c=AC or c=BC ?

hard marten
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yeah she never clarifies that

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thats why im so confused

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so i gotta like guess it

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or assume

lethal citrus
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?

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ok then b=AC

hard marten
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whats happening

lethal citrus
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use Pythagorean theorem to find b

hard marten
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yeah got that

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but she then wants us to find b

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which is obviously 90 degrees

lethal citrus
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b isn't an angle

cinder thicket
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Use the sin law

hard marten
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she like

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never labelled which one is an angle or a measurement

lethal citrus
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or just $\cos(A)=\frac cb$

ocean sealBOT
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deus ex machina

cinder thicket
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Here's the standard notation

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That side opposite to angle A is a

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Side opposite to B is b

hard marten
cinder thicket
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So obviously B=90

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C=90-68.2

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=21.8

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The ones in capitals are angles

hard marten
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yeah so the given measurement of c=23.0

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how would you find everything else with just one measurement

cinder thicket
lethal citrus
cinder thicket
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Or use the sin rule

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c÷sinC=b/sinB

lethal citrus
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this is a retangle triangle

hard marten
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dawhg what is a sinus theorem

cinder thicket
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Sine theorem

hard marten
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i don't know what c is

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so how could i even calculate anything with the degrees

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of 90 and and 21.8

cinder thicket
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a/sin(A)=b/sin(B)=c/sin(C)

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Find b from that

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Then apply Pythagoras

hard marten
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is this even applicable

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or am i using the wrong side

cinder thicket
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That's right

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@hard marten

hard marten
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the thing i made is right

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or am i right that i am using the wrong side

cinder thicket
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Ayo holdon

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Is this the same question?

hard marten
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she never clarified what c = 23 is

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yeah

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so if we assume that c is the hypothenuse or sum

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its just nothing it dont work

cinder thicket
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Could you send the entire question?

hard marten
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sure

cinder thicket
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It's so confusing

hard marten
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thats what IM SAYING

cinder thicket
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With the option too, please.

hard marten
cinder thicket
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It's options?

hard marten
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uh u have to write your options lol

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like type it

cinder thicket
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You have to make your own stuff and submit it?

hard marten
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no like

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whatever you get

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for b and C

cinder thicket
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Why are the variables different in the other picture you should me? Which one are we supposed to refer?

hard marten
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this one?

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i put my answers into a trig calc to calc the missing sides to make sure my answers are right

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if u assume the hypothenuse is 23 cm

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u cant find anything else

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but my TEACHER

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didnt clarify which side the only measurement she given is

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so im starting to think it may be impossible unless i assume c is another side

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which is 50/50

cinder thicket
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Are These options directly under the question?

hard marten
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nope

cinder thicket
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Then?

hard marten
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u get 21.8 if u subtract the given angle

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and 90 degrees

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to 180

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180 - 90 - 68.2

cinder thicket
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No like. Is there a seperate site where you submit this?

hard marten
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its on my school website

cinder thicket
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And the question?

hard marten
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the homework she gave us

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accessible on the school website

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so i may have to assume she might have made an error or sum

cinder thicket
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Yo are they on the same page or not bruh

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Like on the same tab

hard marten
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uh wym

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these two?

cinder thicket
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Yessir

hard marten
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theyre both separate

cinder thicket
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No, right?

hard marten
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the orange one is me using a trig calculator

cinder thicket
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😭

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Cmon bro

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That's what I was asking

hard marten
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its openbook homework

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she dont even mind if u cheat or do anything

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but i dont

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get it

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i want to UNDERSTAND

cinder thicket
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This is the diagram aight?

hard marten
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is c always the hypothenuse tho

cinder thicket
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Nope.

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Like I said the convention is this

hard marten
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so if c is the opp

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how do i find everything else with just the opps and some angles

cinder thicket
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Side opposite to the A is a

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Using the sine rule

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SinB/b=sinC/c

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We already know B,C and c

hard marten
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yeah

cinder thicket
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We just need b

hard marten
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90, 21.8 and 68.2

cinder thicket
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Nope

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c=23

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A=68.2

hard marten
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oh oops

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ok i calculate

cinder thicket
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Sin90/b=sin21.8/23

hard marten
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is it 0.07614642763

cinder thicket
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Nope

hard marten
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what happened to the sin 90

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how did you operate this

cinder thicket
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Sin 90= 1

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1/b=sin23.8/23

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b=23/sin21.8

hard marten
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i got 56.99

cinder thicket
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How come

hard marten
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idk u uh

hard marten
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instead of 21.8

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so i got a diff answer

cinder thicket
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Why would you

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Look at the picture bruh

hard marten
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dwag

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idk cuz u sent dat

cinder thicket
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Sorry

hard marten
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kk

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she never covered this which is crazy

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ik she expects us to probably know how to do this

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but i dont so like

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its really weird she doesnt explain HOW to do anything to solve these questions so i gotta look on a discord and youtube lol

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where does the y=alpha... eqn comes from

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helpp

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what's the doubt?

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It's a sine curve, no?

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Graph on left, function on right

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@late moss

late moss
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the equation

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isnt the eqn of sin graph just sinx

plucky sluice
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Not if you want to capture EVERY sine shaped graph

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The amplitude and the wave length are parameters

late moss
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so i just need to remember

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alpha+sin beta x

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?

plucky sluice
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alpha times

late moss
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yesss

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and also

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how to find min value of sin+cos

plucky sluice
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Don't just remember, think of why that's true

late moss
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by dy/dx

late moss
plucky sluice
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What's the max value of sin(x)?

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1

late moss
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yes

plucky sluice
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What if my amplitude is actually 250 dogs/hr

plucky sluice
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Obviously I need to scale the graph to fit the actual situation

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alpha =250 in that case

late moss
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yup i understood

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in idea

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ideal*

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sinx graph

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alpha is 1

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and beta is 1

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so for diff scales these parameters will change

plucky sluice
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Yes, yes

late moss
plucky sluice
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Especially if you are representing a physical system

late moss
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dy/dx is sin=cos

plucky sluice
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yes

late moss
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now?

plucky sluice
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You set the derivative = 0

late moss
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yes

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so theta can be 135

plucky sluice
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voila, find the solutions

late moss
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or 45

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ahh

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for 45 it gives max

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for 135 min

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?

plucky sluice
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Are you talking about sin + cos?

late moss
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yes

plucky sluice
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I don't know the solutions off the top of my head

late moss
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for 45 it gives max

plucky sluice
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But yes, the mins and maxs will be infinite

late moss
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i cant find min

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i have to find min value of sin+cos

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not the theta

plucky sluice
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Both are periodic

late moss
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cant we just use calculus

plucky sluice
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Yes

late moss
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like we did to find max val

late moss
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tho

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and also

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if we do dy2/dx2

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it comes as -(sin+cos)

plucky sluice
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Find the critical points and classify as min or max

late moss
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how to we know if its +ve

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or -ve

late moss
plucky sluice
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You need to know, at some point, the specific theta value you're talking about. Consult the unit circle and do the calculation

late moss
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we need to put theta to check

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so for 45 its coming negaitve

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so it will give max

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but for what will it be+ +ve

plucky sluice
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Do you have a list of critical points?

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I don't think 45 is actually one of them

late moss
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sin 45 is 1/ root 2

plucky sluice
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well, ok, you did the calcs

late moss
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cos 45 is 1/root 2

late moss
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so cos=sin at 45 deg and 135 deg

plucky sluice
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ok, so check the sign of the second derivative at the other critical point

late moss
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its still -ve

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at 135

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so it iwll give max

plucky sluice
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send your work for that?

late moss
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for what?

plucky sluice
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Are you sure 135 is a critical point?

late moss
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ah no

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sorry

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it isnt

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sorry sorry

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how to find the next crit point then?

plucky sluice
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I would check 225

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You rotated 90deg, so rotate another 90

late moss
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kkk lemme check

plucky sluice
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Or, more intuitively, the min will be in the lower left quadrant of the unit circle

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because sin and cos are negative there

late moss
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yup

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it is the

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crit point

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thnx alot

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fro this fxn

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how to find min value by calculus

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@plucky sluice

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dy/dx is bcos theta = a sin theta

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nvm got it

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can it be a st line between the points too?/

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@plucky sluice

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What's the thing p(A,B) means in the context of something like cartesianb product?

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It has to do with it but I've forgotten what it's called

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Do you have an example of it from somewhere

uneven wedge
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what would that be called

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Power set but that would be P(A x B)

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a top left, b top right

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c bottom

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Hey

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I’m confused

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Teacher said

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Do this work sheet

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Hey

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I’m confused hoe to solve

naive valley
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which one?

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On question 45 the answer is p = 4csc(phi)

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But i can only simplify it to 4 tan (theta) / sin (phi)

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This is my work

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And what would the next step be

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No it’s 1/ sin (phi)

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im not familiar with what csc is

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dreamy root
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Yeah

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p is perpendicular distance?

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whats p? @dreamy root

dreamy root
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P is the distance between the point in space and the origin

alpine sable
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ohk

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i guess ive got the ans

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x^2 + y^2 = 16 is a circle with centre as origin and radius 4]

dreamy root
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Yeah

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I have the answer

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It is p = 4 csc (phi)

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I just don’t know how to get to there from the original equation

alpine sable
dreamy root
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Theta is needed when translating from rectangular to spherical

alpine sable
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oh i forgot

dreamy root
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X = p sin (phi) cos (theta)

alpine sable
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@dreamy root

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i guess you did mistake in dividing

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ig you need to divide with sin(theta)

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thats the mistake ig]

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İ have a question

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-(18x-9y) is = -18x+9y or?

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guyz i want to know about matrices

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find a course about it

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Matrices are just grids of numbers

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Or lists of vectors

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ok

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any free course like 0 to 100% matrices

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this is mechanics

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so, my calculations were that the normal reaction force would be the downward component of the 8N, + mg.

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whats going on here? did i misinterpret the question? or am i just wrong

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its long and complicated but sure

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ignore the red pen

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basically, i did 0.3g + 8sin(10) and they did - instead

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hi

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So how come in the 2nd mile it is doubled

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$6

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But in this problem

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It is trippled to $9

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😭

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hey

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do we got a sheet for properties of logs

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or like a list

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for expanding and simplifying

alpine sable
charred dock
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uh okay I suppose

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I'm at my girlfriend's house, I don't have any of my notes unfortunately

alpine sable
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do you know the propeties of log ?

charred dock
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no

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not off the top of my head I'd really like a reference if there is one

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Google one

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@charred dock

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This is what I get and I have to proof a=c

green sable
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It is probably like the most simple solution ever but idk why but my mind is just not finctioning

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I have been staring at this problem for way too long already and all I have is nothing

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for a+b=c+d, we would subtract b from both sides

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which gets us a=c+d-b

green sable
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I tried that somewhere then I got stuck

lucid dawn
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now you subsitute a from the second equation and you get a=(a+b)-b

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then subtract b from both sides which leads you to: a-b=a-b

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then you add c to both sides

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a-b+c=a-b+c

green sable
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Uuuuuh

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You lost me

lucid dawn
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you're basically using subsitution

green sable
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But

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You substitute with something that is from the exact same equation

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Which just leads to 0=0

lucid dawn
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@sour raft could you please help me out here, my explaning is really bad

sour raft
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Yea sure

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Im only in 9th grade but i think i can give this a shot

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Lets start from the beginning

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and using a different approach

green sable
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Owki

sour raft
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Lets assume a=c is true, lets see if we can find any contridictions

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first lets start with a+b=c+d

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this can be rewritten, as the person above said, to a=c+d-b

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since we assume a=c, that means that d-b must equal 0 since otherwise, c wouldnt be the same as a

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which meands d=b

green sable
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Ye but searching for contradictions won't be enough cuz if we don't find contradictions we will still have to prove it

sour raft
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Yes but this can get you somewhere

again im just a 9th grader trying my best-

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sorry

green sable
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Yes yes I do appriciate. Your help

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I found something on google

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It is quite confusing ngl

lucid dawn
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think of it as a rectangle

green sable
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Wut

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A rectangle ?

lucid dawn
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yes

sour raft
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now youre getting me confused

lucid dawn
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im an 8th grader so i wouldn't know much

green sable
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But we don't know that the sides are similar

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But guy guys I found something on google

lucid dawn
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What

green sable
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Let me write it out I will show then

sour raft
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Were trying to do this not through google-

green sable
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I'm trying to understand

green sable
lucid dawn
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could you solve this as a proof?

green sable
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You can figure it out yourself

green sable
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It is meant to be a proof

lucid dawn
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oh sorry

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my bad

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i'm in honors geometry so i wouldn't know because i'm starting to learn proofs

green sable
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The subject is literally called mathemathical proving and reasoning

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Lmao

sour raft
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wait hold on

we got the thing that a=c+d-b, we all agree on that right?

lucid dawn
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Yeah we all do

green sable
sour raft
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in the other example with multiplication, we can solve for a by dividing by b

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so we get a=(c*d)/b

lucid dawn
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yeah but whatever you do to one side you gotta do to the other

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so a/b=(c*d)/b

sour raft
lucid dawn
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Why? Doesn't it apply for all equations

sour raft
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since the original thing is a*b=c*d dividing by b gets us (a*b)/b=(c*d)/b

green sable
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Ye

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He alrzdy divided both sides

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That's how he got a on one side

lucid dawn
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Oh, my bad

sour raft
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since the right side of the equation both multiplies and divides by b, you get a=(c*d)/b

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anyway

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if we solve for c instead, we get c=a+b-d and c=(a*b)/d

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so now we have 4 equations
a=c+d-b
a=(c*d)/b
c=a+b-d and
c=(a*b)/d

lucid dawn
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so we can subsitute now right

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or not

sour raft
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i dont think we need to

lucid dawn
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Okay

green sable
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It's still 2 equations cuz they are like the same

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But written slightly different

lucid dawn
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yup

sour raft
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huh

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that didnt take me anywhere did it

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wait hold on

green sable
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Not rlly

sour raft
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a=c+d-b
a=(c*d)/b
just a pair of these equations we can see that c+d-b=(c*d)/b

green sable
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Ye

sour raft
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we can factor out the c in the left lane to get c+d-b=c*(d/b)

lucid dawn
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oh yea

sour raft
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since both sides contain c being modified in different ways, we must conclude that they either do nothing or change C by the same amount

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in this case, since the operations are different (adding a difference in one case, and multiplying a divison in another) , they have to do nothing

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whic means d-b=0 and d/b=1, which is only possible if b=d

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now back to the original a+b=c+d, if b=d, then this can be rewritten as a+b=c+b, and since the +b is the same on either side, we can remove it by subtracting b on both side and get a=c

lucid dawn
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ill take note of that

sour raft
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idk if that works

lucid dawn
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i think it would

sour raft
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@green sable ?

green sable
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Let me look

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I'm unsure if that is enough proof to assume d-b=0

sour raft
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I didn't assume it tho

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I (tried to) reason to it

green sable
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Ye

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But I'm unsure if it is enough reasoning

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It's university

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They are very strict on that stuff

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What was the command to close a ticket

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I think it's. close

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.close

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.close

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ionic cosmos
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I need help figuring this out pls (the answer is -90 but idk hwo to get there)

jagged zinc
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multiply everything by 15

alpine sable
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move all the x's to one side and all the constants to the other and divide by x's coefficient

ionic cosmos
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how do i move all the x's to one side-

jagged zinc
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so its easier to understand

alpine sable
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by subtracting -2/3x

alpine sable
jagged zinc
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every operation you do on both side has to be equal

ionic cosmos
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so turn it to 2/3x + 4 - 4 = 3/5x - 2 - 4??

jagged zinc
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yes but you simplifiy it

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so its 2/3x = 3/5x - 6

ionic cosmos
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ok and then

jagged zinc
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then what I would do is get rid of teh fractions

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you do that by multiplying both sides by 3

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because if 3 is on top and bottom they cancel out and the fraction is gone

alpine sable
jagged zinc
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yes

alpine sable
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in the last one i just pulled x out and devided by the coeff

ionic cosmos
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ok ok

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i got it

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thanks for the help

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help plss!!

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anyone?

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floral current
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I need some help.

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golden onyx
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Write your question

floral current
scarlet oriole
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what do you need help with on this problem

golden onyx
floral current
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Sorry wrong matrix

scarlet oriole
floral current
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Is this correct RREF:

| 1 0 -1 | 16 |
| 0 1 2 | -23 |

golden onyx
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What operations did you do?

floral current
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First I flipped it.

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Then I multipied R1 by -1.

golden onyx
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OK.

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That gives you 1 1 1 | -7

floral current
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Then I multiplied R2 by -1 as well

golden onyx
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ok

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a lot of these steps seem unnessary but lets go with it

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so you have R2 as
-2 -1 0 | -9

floral current
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Actually, before I did that I did 2R1 + R2

So I have

1 1 1 | -7
0 -1 -2 | 23

Then I multiplied R2 by -1.

1 1 1 | -7
0 1 2 | -23

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Then to remove the 1 I did:

R1 + (-1R2) -> R1

1 0 -1 | -16
0 1 2 | -23

floral current
golden onyx
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Why isn't this already enough?

floral current
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They want it in RREF

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So is this RREF correct:

1 0 -1 | -16
0 1 2 | -23

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And how do I solve for x1, x2, x3 in this case?

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@golden onyx

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Did you die

golden onyx
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lol sorry abit busy

floral current
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Solved it

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