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wind cloak
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Find the range for each individual part

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(remember the restriction on x)

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I won't be here to check the answer so ask WA

pine surge
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Hmm.. i didnt get to can u send me detailed solution

wind cloak
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pine surge
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Mod

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How you did this??

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I didnt get it?

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@pine surge Has your question been resolved?

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livid axle
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I'm having trouble proving this theorem: The algebraic multiplicity of an eigenvalue is always greater than or equal to the dimension of the corresponding eigenspace.

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safe cape
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can someone remind me why 2e = 0

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safe cape
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oh nvm I remember now

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upbeat hornet
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what is e

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gray isle
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but 2e isn't 0...

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fallen estuary
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can someone help me with 10c?

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fallen estuary
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I think you have to use this

rigid prawn
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so for f(x)=sqrt(c^2-x^2)+a f'(x)= -x/sqrt(c^2-x^2)

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what is the answer to a?

fallen estuary
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oh ok

fallen estuary
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but idk why the +4 gets removed

barren portal
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f(x)= $\sqrt{36-(x-7)^2}$

ocean sealBOT
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dotdoc.

fallen estuary
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right

barren portal
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what shape is it?

fallen estuary
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semicircle

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i hope

barren portal
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describe more

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centre, radius?

fallen estuary
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a semicircle with a radius of what i presume to be 6

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and a center of 7

barren portal
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point?

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describe as points (x,y)

fallen estuary
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Center is (7,0)

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Edges are (1,0) (13,0)

barren portal
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one way to see that is just to square both sides of f(x) right?

barren portal
fallen estuary
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I guess yeah

barren portal
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yes it is

fallen estuary
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Wouldn’t it become 36 then

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Instead of 6

barren portal
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so you see how your circle is, and you want to describe it’s slope of tangent at any point

fallen estuary
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yes

barren portal
ocean sealBOT
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dotdoc.

fallen estuary
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oh yeah

barren portal
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since slope of tangent is nothing but derivatives

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we can use some circle geometry to figure the derivative out

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notice this will only apply for function which a circular or semicircular

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not a general way to find derivative for any f(x)

fallen estuary
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what circle geometry do we use

barren portal
fallen estuary
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yeah

barren portal
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so if you work out radius line slope, then you pretty much found the derivative when you are dealing with circular functions

barren portal
fallen estuary
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hmm

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lets see

barren portal
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feel free to draw the ciricle

fallen estuary
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i can just sub in any values to get a triangle no?

barren portal
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i’m not sure what you mean

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Can you elaborate?

fallen estuary
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wait nvm

barren portal
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any point in semi circle is $(x,\sqrt{36-(x-7)^2})$

ocean sealBOT
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dotdoc.

barren portal
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right?

fallen estuary
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yes

barren portal
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what’s the equation of a slope of line?

fallen estuary
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y = mx + b

barren portal
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That’s equation of line

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let’s say i gave a line, how do you determine it’s slope?

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you don’t know the equation, you need find the slope m

fallen estuary
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rise / run

barren portal
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how many points you need to find that?

fallen estuary
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one

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wait no

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two

barren portal
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yes

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so you need to find the slope of radius line passing through centre of circle right?

fallen estuary
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yes

barren portal
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notice, you are not plugging making a general equation for slope, not just a specific value

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what are those two points you have here?

fallen estuary
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(x, f(x))

barren portal
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to find the slope of radius line

barren portal
fallen estuary
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hmm

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idk the other point

barren portal
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you need one more to find the slope of the line

barren portal
fallen estuary
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radius

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oh

barren portal
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which passes through?

fallen estuary
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(7,0)

barren portal
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exactly

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so you have two points

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now

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find the slope

fallen estuary
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ok so the rise is

brittle timber
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Can anyone help me with 22

barren portal
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occupied *

fallen estuary
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the rise is 0 to f(x)

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and the run is 7 to x

brittle timber
barren portal
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what’s slope now?

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m=?

fallen estuary
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yoooo hold up

barren portal
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mb mb

fallen estuary
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so the rise is just the formula

barren portal
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The ratio

fallen estuary
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and the run is 7 - x

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so its f(x) / 7-x

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then u just flip it

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and make it negative

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for the tangent

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right?

barren portal
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yes

fallen estuary
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nice

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yep that's correct

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wait

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shouldn't it be negative

barren portal
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let me see

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Your run is x-7

fallen estuary
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ohh

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shit

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yeah that makes sense

barren portal
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No matter which one your choose first to find slope, but divide correctly

fallen estuary
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yeah

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thanks for that

barren portal
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notice that this method for finding derivative only applies if f(x) is semicircular

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the whole notion of derivatives is to extend tangent line to more curves than ciricles

fallen estuary
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yeah

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im just revising this coz this might be in our test

barren portal
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which book is that?

fallen estuary
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cambridge maths extension 1 year 11

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australia

barren portal
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Good one

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usually math presented is throw some derivative formulas and you are supposed to use it blindly

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this sure is a good one.

fallen estuary
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it is pretty good yeah

barren portal
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gl

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🙏🏿

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warped topaz
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I dont know if im doing this correctly

barren portal
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What’s does two vectors being perpendicular shows about dot product?

warped topaz
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Oh

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That they are 0 when multiplied together

barren portal
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What’s the definition of dot product?

marsh rapids
warped topaz
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Okok, thats a much better way of doing it than I was hahaha

warped topaz
marsh rapids
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also in this case, there's a little trick that can save some time

warped topaz
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Yep I got it 😄

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That was waaay easier than how I was doing it haha

marsh rapids
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what was your method ?

marsh rapids
warped topaz
# marsh rapids what was your method ?

I found the length of v using √(-28^2) + (-4^2) and the same for w, then I multiplied them both together to get 112 - 4y which gave me (112 - 4y)/(20√2 + √(16 + y^2))

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It was such a mess hahaha

marsh rapids
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their lengths are totally irrelevant

warped topaz
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Dont you need them for the dot product?

marsh rapids
warped topaz
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Ahhh true

marsh rapids
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so the norms are irrelevant

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you can freely turn (-28, -4) into (7, 1) to make the numbers nicer

warped topaz
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Ah ok, so it can be whatever length it doesnt matter

marsh rapids
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avoid the making the length 0 still, then you lose information

warped topaz
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Oh yeah true haha

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Thank you guys I think I get it now!!

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So helpful as always haha

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rotund shoal
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Where did I mess up?

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The answer sheet says that I am wrong

rigid prawn
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which angle is A and which angle is y

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nimble fern
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i got 29.92, what does the answer sheet says?

rotund shoal
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Answer sheet said 26.55

nimble fern
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you need to find AD, right?

rotund shoal
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corrext

nimble fern
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oh wait lol

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my bad

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i see what we did wrong

nimble fern
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thats why lol

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me careless

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nimble fern
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your y that is evaluated is angle BAC

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Thanks for identifying

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safe cape
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question says to integrade

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safe cape
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is it right?

vale wigeon
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no

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$\int -\frac{1}{x^2} \dd{x} \neq -\frac{\ln|x|}{x}$

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vale wigeon
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i believe you came here just a few minutes ago asking whether the derivative of ln(x)/x was 1/x^2
and you were told by multiple ppl that it wasn't

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so now you step on the exact same rake

safe cape
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how is -1/x^2 integrated

vale wigeon
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$\int x^p \dd{x} = \frac{x^{p+1}}{p+1}$ still applies for $p=-2$.

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safe cape
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is the answer for this question correct?

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the answer is the one in the circle

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the left side is the question

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since it has that ln x thing

vale wigeon
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did we decide to abandon the previous one

safe cape
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they're related so I figure I would ask

vale wigeon
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i see no relation between the two (beyond them both being integral problems), and you did not acknowledge my response to your question of "how do I integrate -1/x^2?"

safe cape
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I was curious about them both since they both have that 1/x pattern

vale wigeon
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ok first off

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  1. that "pattern" is kind of a fluke
safe cape
vale wigeon
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the integral of -1/x^2? no, the integral of -1/x^2 is not x.

safe cape
vale wigeon
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no, the integral of -1/x^2 is not x.

safe cape
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ok

vale wigeon
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would you like me to take you through applying the integral power rule properly?

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or can you manage on your own?

safe cape
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wait I'll send my working to see what went wrong

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wait no nvm

vale wigeon
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ok

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let me restate the rule:

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$\int x^p \dd{x} = \frac{x^{p+1}}{p+1}+C$

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safe cape
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ok

vale wigeon
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for the purposes of calculating $\int \frac{1}{x^2} \dd{x}$, what should we take $p$ as?

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safe cape
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0?

vale wigeon
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what is x^0?

safe cape
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good point

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I have no idea

vale wigeon
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1/x^2 equals x raised to what power?

safe cape
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2?

vale wigeon
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is 1/x^2 equal to x^2?

safe cape
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no

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-2?

vale wigeon
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is 1/x^2 equal to x^-2?

safe cape
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yes?

vale wigeon
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are you asking me or secondguessing yourself?

safe cape
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I'm not sure

vale wigeon
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might want to review exponent laws after we are done here.

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anyway, yes, 1/x^2 = x^(-2).

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here is the rule a third time:

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$\int x^p \dd{x} = \frac{x^{p+1}}{p+1}+C$

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vale wigeon
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when we replace p with -2 here, what do we get?

safe cape
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-1

vale wigeon
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the entire right-hand side collapses to only a single number -1?

safe cape
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x^-1/-1

vale wigeon
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right...

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can you simplify $\frac{x^{-1}}{-1}$?

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safe cape
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1/-x

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?

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this is right?

vale wigeon
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yes now it is

safe cape
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omg

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thanks!

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anything else you would want to add

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I take it as a no

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tq

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Prove srqt(22) is irrational
My work so far :

**Assume sqrt(22) is rational
-> sqrt(22) = a/b, Where a/b is a in it's simplest form a and b cannot both be even
-> 22 = a^2 / b^2 -> 22b^2 = a^2

22b^2 = a^2 can be expressed as 2 * 11 * b^2 = a^2 due to 22b^2 being a composite number
-> a^2 contains a factor of 2 -> a^2 is even
Therefore a is also even as the square root of an even number is also even

-> a=2k due to it being a mutiple of 2

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However upon trying to further on the proof I can't seem to prove b^2 is even.

My problem :
**-> 22b^2 = (2k)^2 -> 22b^2 = 4k^2 -> b^2 = (4k^2)/(22)

I'm not sure on how to further proof.**

raven haven
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notice that

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since a^2 is even

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and you said a is even

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a^2/2 is still even

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so this means

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$11b^2$ is even right?

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raven haven
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can b^2 be odd?

alpine sable
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But how would I prove that in my proof

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I see that it's even though

raven haven
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i kind of gave you the result by accident

alpine sable
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How could I extend it further to prove b is even

raven haven
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uh

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can an odd number multiplied by

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an odd number

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be even?

alpine sable
raven haven
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so

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can b^2 be odd?

alpine sable
raven haven
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so

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does this answer your question?

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alr thanks bro very much

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vast sonnet
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This is equal to 1^infinity right?

high urchin
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maybe

vast sonnet
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Is that not just 1?

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<@&268886789983436800>

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Like ik it's wrong

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But idk why

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dont ping mods for math help

vast sonnet
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the guy was spamming

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🙂

arctic steeple
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Ah okay i see, checked the logs

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my bad

vast sonnet
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nw

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void tinsel
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Can someone explain if there is a f'(x) of f(x)= 1/x

pale kestrel
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yes...

mellow grail
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No

pale kestrel
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power rule?

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(dont confuse me monke)

mellow grail
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How power rule?

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Shoe me

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OH

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This ain't integration devastation

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Sorry for doubting you

raven haven
void tinsel
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i need to find the f''(x) of f(x) = ln(1+x)
i know that the f'(x) = 1/x

pale kestrel
wide anchor
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$\frac{d}{dx}(x^n) = nx^{n-1}$

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despairful_deltoid

void tinsel
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?

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owww, is it -1/x^2?

pale kestrel
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yh

void tinsel
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and that becomes 1/x^4

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and so on

pale kestrel
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wat.

void tinsel
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the f'(x) of f(x) = -1/x^2

coral thorn
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yes

void tinsel
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allright thnx

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quasi cove
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Need help on this.

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quasi cove
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This is what I have. Am I missing something out?

alpine sable
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lemme check

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its correct i guess sir

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wait

quasi cove
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None of the Options work out 😫😫

alpine sable
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wait

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a = 2, b = 1

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oke sir u can close now

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thank yoi

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you

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stable grotto
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and we should rotate R2 region about AB

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my solution :

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and correct answer is 13pi/45

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why my solution is not true?

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sry i am blind

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i know where is mistake

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@alpine sable I need some explanations man

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Is there any other ways except guess and Check? You can’t just give the answer and close the Channel lol

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!nosols

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Is guess and check the only way out?

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Some work I did. I’m trying to steer clear of guess and check. Any idea how to get the answer without this method?

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Shall create new channel

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i honestly dont know how to solve this, plz help me out fellas

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the degree of the monomial is the sum of the exponents of all included variables

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Since angle CBD = angle BDC, the triangle BDC is isosceles in C

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On this app how did it go from step one to step two?

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x^2-1=(x-1)(x+1)

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quietly dividing both sides by (x+1) after doing the stated cross-multiplication

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Can someone please explain to me how this simplification works

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exapanding top term gives -2(x^3) + 2x(y^2) + 2(x^3) + 2x(y^2)

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the -2x^3 cancels out

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so it gives 4xy^2

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ahh thank you 🙂

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you can exapand the bottom term to x^4 + 2(x^2)(y^2) + y^4

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how do you find the angle between a vector and the horizontal?

slender gull
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Directional cosines.

safe tartan
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could i just send the question actually

slender gull
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That's what you should always do, actually.

safe tartan
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vector AB i found to be -22i + 15j

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and thus the speed is sqrt709 m/s

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but not quite sure howt o find the positive vector of the jet ski after ten seconds

slender gull
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Um. Isn't your vector AB wrong?

safe tartan
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is it ?

slender gull
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I'd say so.

safe tartan
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oh yeah it is

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18i+15j

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So the ship is at origin.
It might help if you draw the scenario out.

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Atleast the points where the jet ski is to be found.

safe tartan
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yep i have done that

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Share.

safe tartan
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bit messy but

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The diagram should be right ignore the labels

slender gull
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If the final position is say C

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You need BOC (O being origin)

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Yes?

safe tartan
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yes

slender gull
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You know the coordinates of B and C both.

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Yes?

safe tartan
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wait the coordinates of C?

slender gull
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Well

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Isn't that part i. Of the same problem?

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I thought you already knew how to do that one...

safe tartan
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im asking about i)

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i could do ii) just dot products and solve for theta

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I see.

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Okay.

safe tartan
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yeah sorry for the confusion

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It's alright.

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Your original message stated something with angle, so ...

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Anyways

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Do you realise that AB vector is actually the velocity vector?

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Of the jet ski.

safe tartan
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yes

slender gull
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Do you know how displacement and velocity relate?

safe tartan
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derivative

slender gull
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With respect to time*

safe tartan
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yep

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So if you know the velocity.
Time span.
Would you be able to find the displacement?

safe tartan
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i would need to integrate

slender gull
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You would.

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Though this integral is pretty easy to evaluate since the velocity vector is a constant.

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so

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is it 1?

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You cancelled /2 by what?

tender anchor
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idk i just thought u could get rid of it bc its a irrelivant constant

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Not at all irrelevant.

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$\lim_{x\to a}cf(x)=c\lim_{x\to a}f(x)$

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euclid31415

devout summit
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Given that the limit exists

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So, if your limit after removing 2 exists and is 1 then your original limit has to be (2)×1

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In this case though that 1/2 is in the denominator so c here equals 1/(1/2)=2

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ah true

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so then 2 is the final answer in that case?

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Yes

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But you do understand why that e^{-5x} term didn't matter right?

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yeah bc it its 1/e^5x

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so its negatively decreasing as x->infinitiy right

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$\frac{e^{5x}}{e^{5x}+e^{-5x}}=\frac{1}{1+e^{-10x}}$

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This should make it sufficiently clear that the denominator on right side goes to 1 and hence 1/(denominator) must also go to 1/1=1

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yeah that makes sense

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Also, you could say it worked because f(x) = o(g(x))

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Where f(x) = e^{-5x} and g(x) = e^{5x}

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ah okay

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i fully understand y the answer is 2 now

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and how it goes to 1 / (1 / 2 )

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!status

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I'm not sure how to start

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you're pretty much being asked for the slope between $(x_1, f(x_1))$ and $(x_2, f(x_2))$

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ℝamonov

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yoohoo

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So I'm trying to understand this example

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The topic is integrating partial fractions btw

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I understand everything

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up until this part

echo socket
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The moment they start setting values of x in?

winter seal
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Yeah

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I can sorta see how they get -2 for B

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But I'm getting 4 for C and not 2

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like they're saying

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Okay, let's see what happens when we plug in x = 2
2 * 2 + 4 = (A + C) * 2^2 + (-2A - 2) * 2 + 4
8 = 4A + 4C - 4A - 4 + 4
8 = 4C
C = 2

winter seal
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Wait we plug it into the left side too?

echo socket
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Of course

winter seal
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I thought we just left it alone

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that changes everything

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hold on let me try to redo that

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There is another way to look at solving for A, B and C btw

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What is that?

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For two polynomials to be equal to each other, the corresponding coefficients (as in the coefficients of the same term) should be equal

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So here you could basically solve the system of equations
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I can't do the system of equations for my life

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let me try to do it the original way

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I don't get it

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But what doesn't make sense is how did they rearrange A??

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I'm so confusused

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How did they rearrange for A?????????????

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i don't see them rearranging for A here unless you mean the part where they went from A + C = 0 to A = -C?

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How Poisson mixture models are constructed and derive any two
Poisson mixture models.

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I just have a question on how to find the equation to put within the integral, I was able to do it with a rectangle, but the circle is throwing me off. Just #5! I have F = 9800Ad currently, but don't know how to get the area (A) or distance (d) from my point.

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Where's your point?

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I'll send a picture of my current work

near apex
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So, you are considering d from water surface ?

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Yes

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d is from water surface to delta y

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do i use the circle equation to find A?

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Sorry, i forgot this chat.

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hmmm

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how would I do that?

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Wait. Let me send a picture.

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It'd be hard to put it in words.

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Ok for sure!

near apex
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It's a hand drawn picture so i'm sorry if it's a bit hard to read/ make sense of.

burnt sable
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that's ok!

near apex
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You can integrate over theta from -90° to 90°.

burnt sable
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ahhh!!

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that makes it a lot easier

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Yes.

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can someone tell me what i did wrong?

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i checked my answer with photomath and mathway and they gave me different answers

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because this is a forth degree equation

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x^2 would be equal to 4

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not x

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do you understand what i mean

silver pilot
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so can i not use the quadratic formula here?

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or do i just change the numbers

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you can do it, but only when you set your variables to y

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let me show ypu what i mean

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ok

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i set y= x^2 because the quadratic formula only works for equations which have the highest power = 2

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hope it made sense

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ok i did it and i think i get it

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help

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whats the answer

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i dont really understand what do the | | mean in this situation

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is it absolute value?

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Yes

short blaze
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so how do i go about solving this

tardy stag
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,tex .exp rules

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Hayley

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Use Deez

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You can start by cancelling some stuff inside the root.

short blaze
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so what would a5 and 6th root cancel into?

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a^5*

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would (a+1)^6 just cancel into (a+1)

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Well, let's not hurry to that

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Do you see that a, a⁵ cancels out?

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Leaving a^4

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No?? Why?

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My wording might be wrong but

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You get it... what I mean

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"a" cancels with a "a" of a⁵

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$\frac{a^5}{a} = \frac{a^4 \cdot a}{a} = a^4 \cdot \frac{a}{a}$

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a/a = 1

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so you get a^4

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what happened to the a + 1

surreal meadow
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it’s all still there

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i’m just focusing on the a^5/a part

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did that make sense to you

short blaze
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yeah

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doesnt a^5/a just turn into a^4

surreal meadow
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yes

short blaze
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ok so what about the other parts

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i dont really know the process to solve this problem

surreal meadow
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so now we have $$\sqrt[6]{\frac{b^2}{a^4(a+1)^6}}$$

short blaze
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one sec

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original problem

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what hapepened to the 6th root

surreal meadow
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oh sixth root

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maximofs

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ok so can we turn 6th root into 3rd root times 2nd root

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what do you mean

short blaze
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cant we get rid of the b^2 by seperating the 6th root into 3rd root times 2nd root

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then cancelling the 2nd roots

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with the b^2

surreal meadow
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what does “3rd root times 2nd root” mean

short blaze
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turn 6 into 3 times 2

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?

surreal meadow
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ok

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we should probably write this as an exponent is my point

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$$\left(\frac{b^2}{a^4(a+1)^6}\right)^{\frac{1}{3}\frac{1}{2}}$$

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huh

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im not familiar

surreal meadow
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now familiar with what

short blaze
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ok so u turned the 6th root into exponents?

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is that the only way to solve this ?

surreal meadow
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the sixth root of x is the same as x^(1/6)

short blaze
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yeah

surreal meadow
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that’s all that i did

short blaze
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ok so now what

surreal meadow
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i’ll ask you the same question

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now what

short blaze
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idk

surreal meadow
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you seemed to have an idea before

short blaze
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so can you cancel 1/2 and b^2

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and cancel the exponent in (a+1)^6

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and cancel 1/2 with 4 in a^4

surreal meadow
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let’s be cautious here

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you have the right idea

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but what is the square root of x^2

short blaze
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x

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?

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short blaze
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ok 1/2 and b^2 cancels to b

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but then what do u do with the 1/3

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ok i see so we would get the cube root of b/a^2 right

surreal meadow
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it’s not x

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sqrt(x^2) = |x|

short blaze
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but then how do they get 1/a+1

short blaze
surreal meadow
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between x and |x|?

short blaze
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yeah

surreal meadow
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what is |-1|

short blaze
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oh no negatives

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wait so whenever u take an nth root of an exponent then u have to use absolute value signs?

surreal meadow
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no

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it’s specific to even roots

short blaze
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okay

surreal meadow
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even roots give you a positive value

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(or 0)

short blaze
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what if its an odd exponent

surreal meadow
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they can give you a negative value

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the cube root of -1 is -1

short blaze
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so if we take the square root of b^2, we get the absolute value of b

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then if we take the 6th root of a+1^6 we get absolute value of a+1

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and the cube root of b and a^2 is cube root of absolute value of b over a^2?

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do we need absolute value signs for a

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wait i have a question

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can you simplify cube root of a&2

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a^2*

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whered u go 😭

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@surreal meadow

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it’s been 5 minutes

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chill lol

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the cube root of a^2 is just that

short blaze
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it just stays the same?

surreal meadow
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there’s no nice simplification

short blaze
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okay so is everything i said correct

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no, let's just walk through this together

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i mean

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what you said is fine

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but i don't know if you're going to end up with the right answer since you're doing cube roots, square roots, and 6th roots all independently

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the important take aways are these

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(\sqrt[6]{\frac{b^2}{a^4(a+1)^6}} = \left(\frac{b^2}{a^4(a+1)^6}\right)^{\frac{1}{2}\cdot\frac{1}{3}} = \left(\frac{|b|}{a^2|a+1|^3}\right)^{\frac{1}{3}} = \frac{1}{|a+1|}\left(\frac{|b|}{a^2}\right)^{\frac{1}{3}} )

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maximofs

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if that was what you were describing then perfect

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as long as you understand the process

short blaze
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where did 1/|a+1| come from

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(xy)^(1/3) = (x)^(1/3) * (y)^(1/3)

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we pulled out the 1/|a+1|^3 from the inside

short blaze
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do we just assume theres a one there

surreal meadow
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what

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oh

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a one where

short blaze
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ok wait so when u converted from the 3rd step to the 4th step

surreal meadow
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(\frac{|b|}{a^2|a+1|^3} = \frac{|b|}{a^2}\cdot\frac{1}{|a+1|^3})

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maximofs

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where did the one come from tho

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(\frac{a}{b\cdot c} = \frac{a}{b}\cdot\frac{1}{c})

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maximofs

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this is just fraction multiplication

short blaze
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ok so u would have to break the fraction apart first

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then simplify?

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yes

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ok i think i got it

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hi im hiaving trouble finding du/dx

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since thats hte only answer i can think of

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$\frac2x = 2x^\inv$

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Hayley

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,tex .diff rules

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o

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Hayley

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uh

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which rule is dat

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power rule

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o nice

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I need help with these 3 questions if anyone has time

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What step are you on?
1. I don't know where to begin
2. I have begun but got stuck midway
3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
4. I got an answer and would like my work checked
5. I have a question about someone else's worked solution
6. None of the above
deep topaz
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For the first two I've tried different formulas and values but still can't get the right answer

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The third one I just don't know how to do it

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deep topaz
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In order of the questions

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Sorry it's kind of messy

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Ah wait hold on

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wary stream
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My suggestion, you should focus on one question at a time. Sending all 3 creates a good amount of confusion

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Ok

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This one first then?

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tribal wraith
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am i doing something wrong here, it said find the reference angle for 2.4 and i subtracted it with pi/2 and got 2.4

tribal wraith
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I got a and c correct, but im confused about b

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tribal wraith
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i did 2.4-2pi which gave me 2.4, and then i subtracted that by 6.28 which gave me -3.88 and I added into 2pi where i got 2.4

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sorry if i worded wrong

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did i miss a step

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sorry this is confusing

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lament steppe
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hey i need help with letter D, i need to find the restrictions on the equation but idk how to do that

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pls @ me so i can come back quick and respond to any questions 🫶🏾

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What have you tried??

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dw i got it ty!

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I need to find the derivative of this, but I don’t know what I did wrong

tawny tapir
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have u used chain rule?

torn elk
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is this f(x)? I can't read well

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gleaming ridge
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You did a small mistake

regal lagoon
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The 5 is in the numerator

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Not in the denominator

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Ohhhhh

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Thank you

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😋

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How did you think of dropping it

regal lagoon
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I think I just though to drop the whole thing to the bottom rather than just the parenthesis

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it's not 5^(-1) right 😛

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I need some help with this, I don't know where to start or what to do

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if the number -21 was anything else, would you be able to do the problem?

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nvm i just got it, 92.73 sorry

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Hey all

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Double integrals question

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I followed it through to its logical conclusion and solved it - but I think I've interpreted something wrong...

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That third, recursive part seems... well, maybe my teacher is just trying to prove a point

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Ohhhh... I think I see a problem...

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Among others, potentially XD

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That inner integral is supposed to be from x^2 to 1, not from 0 to x^2

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Is what I'm thinking. Beyond that, is my interpretation correct?

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No... I was right the first time (for B)

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I understand that this is probably not the typical question, but I was wondering if anyone knew of any cartesian or parametric functions that could describe something like this. My guess is they would require some paramentric integrals with variable bounds, like the euler spirrals, but I'm not sure.

buoyant storm
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,rotate

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buoyant storm
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i will try

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Thank you, appreciate any efforts.

buoyant storm
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sorry

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more precisely, desmos died

civic willow
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Wow thats

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what did you try 😂

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I could try graphing it in mathematica

buoyant storm
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um

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$(\int_{0}^{t}sin^2(s^2) ds, \int_{0}^{t}cos^2(s^2)ds)$

ocean sealBOT
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orthogonal_1

buoyant storm
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idk i have no idea

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i just played around with euler spirals

civic willow
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Yeah I get the feeling that it'll be the approach somewheree

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Its a bit similar to a lemniscate

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but I'm not sure if that actually helps me at all

tardy stag
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there's this which isn't really what you want but is something maybe sort of idk

buoyant storm
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WOW

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nice

civic willow
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That is actually really good

tardy stag
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i can't figure out what to tweak to make it more pointy

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or otherwise change it

civic willow
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I'lll start pllaying around with it too

tardy stag
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oh just make it b sint for the y part, that helps a lot

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I did this

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Yerah lol

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this is always my

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function manipulating strat

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Sttart adding random letters

tardy stag
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lmaoo

civic willow
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absolutely crushed it

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alright well thats rreally excellent stuff, can I ask how you came up with the original?

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this is why kids shouldn't have phones, then they'll spend hours just drawing random polar crap in their calculators

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like.... fifteen years ago

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then just thought about what i needed for that, after a few tries i had that

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then added the +t/a parameter to make it move

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Yeah nice!

tardy stag
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how
i don't think you understand how bored i was on the school bus

buoyant storm
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loll

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@civic willow Has your question been resolved?

tardy stag
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you do need the normal vector to the path though

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no, this method breaks down with complicated graphs ugh

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vivid heath
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for this question

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i understand how to do the dot product

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however im use to working with positive angles for this

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whats the difference for getting the angle in this case when this is what im usually doing?

violet flare
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put the vectos in cartesian space and compute normally. negative angle of -110 would be in the fourth quadrant

vivid heath
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third quadrant?

violet flare
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yes third sorry

vivid heath
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np np

vale wigeon
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@vivid heath draw your two vectors starting at the same point

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the angle between them should become obvious if you do that correctly

vivid heath
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Do I look at them from the other direction though ?

vale wigeon
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you've managed to overthink it...

vivid heath
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lol

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here literally ive overlaid them just now

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do you see what the angle between vectors A and B is

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110+35

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145?

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bravo

vivid heath
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I hate overthinking lol

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Ty

vivid heath
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or since its absolute value i take the positive?

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what's "it"?

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sorry

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