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We got 120 by 5!
That’s 5 factorial btw
Like dividing 120 by 120?
So 4 x 3 x 2 x 2
No no. That is the total number of combinations for the word PEACE
so this would be our denominator
Oh okie
Yes
This is the denominator?
No that is numerator
Because that is the E part
To get probability we need to do: wanted/total
Is that 4!?
Yes 4! x 2
Wait why we multiplied it by 2?
Suppose we put the two E’s in the first two slots. Then, we can arrange the the remaining 3 letters in 3! ways. Now, there are 4 different positions Rick in which to place the first E. Thus, there must be 4(3!) = 4! ways to have a word with the two E’s together as we want
Actually ignore this
Okie
Same result with complicated outcome
So final equation is 4! x 2! right for numerator
And divide that by denominator of 120
You get 48/120
Those four different positions are like left of P, in between P & C, and right of A in PCE , did I get it right?
Yes sir
What I did was combination
What you did was permutation
Damn
There is a big difference
Yessir
If you did permutations
Total permutations for PEACE = 5!/2!=60
Now, consider those two E's as a single entity and the resultant permutations are = 4!=24
So, probability = 24/60 = 2/5
Which is the same thing as above
48/120 = 24/60
Multiple ways of doing this question
Awesome. Thanks man. Answer is 2/5. Cool got the concept. You rock sir .
The main assumption is that the two Es are together
Np
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If you want
And have no further questions
My thirst is quenched.
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hey
could anyone help me out with the idea of cartesian products?
need to do SxT as part of a bigger proof
would I just select an arbitrary number of elements from both S and T and perform the cartesian product?
to do what
SxT consists of elements of the form (4n, 4k+2)
so stuff like (4, 2) or (16, -2) or (1000, 34)
Yes I see that, but how do i write it
rafi wrote the set builder notation earlier
$S\times T = {(n, m)\in \bZ^2 | n \equiv 0 \pmod 4, m \equiv 2 \pmod 4}$
Denascite
I see
ok much appreciated
another question however
how would i prove that SxT is a proper set of another hypothetical set Z
show that any element in SxT is also an element of that other set
sidenote, using Z is a terrible name
I have a lot of sets on this piece of paper lol
running out of set names
so a proper set only has to share one element with its super set?
thats not what I said
all elements of SxT have to also be in the other set
Ah ok
so if the set i was comparing it to was ExE
it would be comparing {{4n},{4k+2}} and {{2n},{2k}}
correct?
wrong notation but yes
how would i continue from there
well what exactly do you even want to say
if (x,y) is in SxT, then (x,y)=(4n, 4k+2) for some integers n, k
How can we show that $\sum^{\infty} \frac{1}{n \log(n)}$ diverges? I show that $n \log(n)$ is equal to $n^{1 + \log_n(\log(n))}$ so the exponent is greater than 1 for $n>e$ which means it should converge by the p-test, but apparently it diverges.
triz
bruh
so (x,y) = (2*(2n), 2*(2k+1)) for the integers 2n and 2k+1 so (x,y) in ExE
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ah no i see now
sorry
the 0 is clearly just a number to keep the channels apart
hmmm
if i prove that all subsets in SxT are even and all subsets in ExE are even, given that the set is infinite, is that considered proof?
s
no
why do you want to do anything with subsets
and what should it even mean for a set to be even
numbers can be even
yes
I gave you the whole proof
I took an element (x,y) in SxT
then I applied the definition of SxT to get that (x,y) = (4n, 4k+2) for some integers n,k
and then I noticed that (x,y) = (2*(2n), 2*(2k+1)) for the two integers 2n and 2k+1
so (x,y) has the form (2m, 2t) with two integers m, t
which is exactly the form of the elements in ExE
so (x,y) is in ExE
and that's it
oh i get it now
so you've just defined m,t as some integer where m = 2n and t = 2k+1
clever
thank you
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Neither 5/6 or 6/5 worked. Wtf am I supposed to put in here
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Need help with factorizing polymomials
Do you need to factor a specific one?
How can i factorize this
U could divide the eq by 2 coz they all have a factor of 2 to make it easier
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Yes
Well the factors of 5 is just 5 and 1
So u would have something like
(5x ) (x )
Same with 2, where its factor is just 2 and 1
So to get a sum of -11
U would want to check with the 5,1 and 2,1
So it'll be
(5x-1)(x-2)
Ohh okay thanks
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(x,y,z) = (1,1,0) or (1,0,1) or (0,1, (x,y,z) = (7,-6,-5) or (7,-6,-5) or (-6,-5,7) or (-6,7,-5) or (-5,-6,7) or (-5,7,-6)k= 3 we have 1 solution : (x,y,z) = (1,1,1)k= 10 , we have the solutions (x,y,z) = (1,1,2) or (1,2,1) or (2,1,1) k= 9 we have the solutions (x,y,z) = (1,0,2) or (1,2,0) or (0,1,2) or (0,2,1) or (2,0,1) or (2,1,0)k= 8 we have (x,y,z) = ( 0,0,2) or (2,0,0) or (0,2,0)
k17 => (x,y,z) = (1,2,2) or (2,1,2) or ( 2,2,1)
k = 24 (x,y,z) = (2,2,2k= 27 => (x,y,z) = (0,0,3) or (3,0,0) or (0,3,0)k= 28 => (x,y,z) = (1,0,3) or (1,3,0) or (1,3,0) or (1,0,3) or (3,0,1) or (3,1,0)
k=29 => (x,y,z) = (1,1,3) or (1,3,1) or (3,1,1)
k = 35 we have (x,y,z) = (0,2,3) or (0,3,2) or (3,0,2) or (3,2,0) or 2,0,3) or (2,3,0=36𝑥=1,𝑦=2𝑎𝑛𝑑𝑧=3=>x1,y=2andz=3=>
13+23+33=1+8+27=3613+2+33=18+27=36 k= 36 ,: (x, y,z) = (1, 2, 3) ; (3,2,1); (1,3,2) ; (2,1,3) ; (2,3,1), and (3,1,2)
k= 43 we have (x,y,z) = (2,2,3) or (2,3,2) or (3,2,2)
k = 44 we have ( 8,-7,-5) or (8,-5,-7) or (-5,-7,8) or ( -5,8,-7) or (-7,-5,8) or (-7,8,-5)54 => (x,y,z) = (13,-11,-7) ,= 55 => (x,y,z) = (1,3,3) or (3,1,3) or (3,1,1) (x,y,z) = (10,-9,-6) or (10,-6,-9) or ( -6,10,-9) or (-6,-9,10) or (-9,10,-6) or (-9,-6,10)= 62 => (x,y,z) = (3,3,2) or (2,3,3) or (3,2,3) k =64 => (x,y,z) = (0,0,4) or (0,4,0) or (4,0,0k= 65 => (x,y,z) = (1,0,4) or (1,4,0) or (0,1,4) or (0,4,1) or (4,1,0) or (4,0,1)k= 66 => (x,y,z) = (1,1,4) or (1,4,1) or (4,1,1)k
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Is this maths
And what is it about
It is maths I guess, but it doesn't make sense
it should have something to do with vectors though
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I know to start out I would use the formula for the maclaurin series seen here
the first part of that shows that I am plugging in 0 into the series' derivatives, right?
but if I do that, how am I going to get anything other than 0 for the answer
you definitely shouldn't be calculating derivatives
you should just memorize/use macluarin series for cosine
and then plug in x^2 for it
then multiply it by x
ok so im not using that formula at all for this problem
thats just one i need to have memorized
is it possible for you to do a sample problem using that formula for me
just so I know how it would work cuz its not really clicking
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just wondering if this looks good, I'm trying to practice my proofs
looks fine to me
you should specify the domain of your variables (N, Z, Q, R, C)
k, j are elements of Z
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I would just use the member of notation?
these are informal btw, this class is
i don’t have it on my keyboard
ah, okay, I'll keep that in mind
as it states in the question
so indicate in my P that n and m are members of Z?
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I made a formula to find the n-th term of any Arithmetic Progression, but I am not sure if it works 100% for all APS. I've tried the formula on many APs and it has worked so far but I have no proof of the formula.
I just need some help, if someone could help me in how to prove it (if its
correct) and is there a way to write a condensed version of the formula?
In the photo I've attached, I've written the formula, I don't know how to express it more condensed. And I've calculated the n-th term of an AP to show it works.
Is there any other simpilar way of finding the n-th term?
i don't know if there's something different about yours or not tbh
oh okay it's larger
like you get it unsimplified
Give me a moment please
I saw the video
I'm not sure how to explain it
But I think like with mine i could get the formula that generates the nth term for aby degree of an ap
Like what i was looking for, that i could condense the formula (if there was a way) so that all i need to know is the degree of AP, put it in the formula and get the exact formula that generates the nth term
Like when we have use the sum sign (Sigma) and it has a lower and upper limit, and we plug every integer inbetween.
So like is there a similar way inwhich this could be simplified?
Like (x-1)+(x-2)+(x-3)+......(x-10)
Can simply be written as Sigma of r from 1 to 10 (x-r)
,w C(n-1, 3)
that's waht you multiply by d
but it would have to expand to these a ,b,c,d,e variables somehow
Ohh okok i got it
i guess there's some conventional way to do this
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remember that you also have log_10(10)=1
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Hi I need help

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find the diagonal of the base first. that diagonal will be the base to the triangle with the straw as a diagonal
will you please be able to show me by drawing a line on the picture?
the diagonal will be a variable that you'll solve later
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I don’t know how to start. I’m having trouble with visualising the diagram
ignore the text on the bottom it didn’t crop properly
What is the first one 065, but the second is 166°? Why does the first one exclude the degree symbol? And is it standard practice to have a 0 prefix for 2-digit numbers like this?
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Why is 6 being divided by 49? Shouldn't it be multiplied due to the + sign?
Or is this a mistake?
yeah it shouldn't be divided it should be multiplied
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This is finding the indicated real nth root
I’m wondering if this is right with the plus or minus 4
Like will it be a plus or minus or just 4
Even root
yep that's correct. When you have even nth roots you have a +/- answer
not quite.
So if you take the cubic root of -27, for example, the answer is -3. So if you have an odd root, the sign follows the answer
oh wait sorry
Like no plus or minus
eyah it's just one answer, but the sign
man I can't type tonight lol
Lol no problem
just make sure that the sign carries through
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whats the easiest way to get the reduced form of a matrix using the gauss jordan method?
I'm not sure there's a "easiest way", it depends on the matrix.
oh ok
but is there a formula of some sorts
or no
do i have to do each matrix in a specific way?
or multiple options
like an example would be that most examples I've seen calculate the bottom left side to get the zeros there first
nah not really. I mean the math will work out no matter what you do but you can rearrange and other stuff to make your life easier.
The guarantee is the bottom left, top right triangle if you're familiar with that
yeah exactly
ahhhhh ok thanks man
but like rearranging/swapping the rows, scaling, etc all will help you
yeah np
best of luck!
thanks
Gauss Jordan is a paper waster
lmao
I swear they give you a 3x4 matrix and then it takes 2 pages because each matrix takes 1/16 of the fucking paper
bad memories from linear algebra, lol. It's also a slowish process by hand
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I guess that's one benefit of doing Cramer's rule
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someone please explain what the point graphed at 4, 0.25 represents (im thinking it’s the reciprocal of the y-int.) as well, if it is what I think it is, why did they graph the reciprocal of the y-int to begin with?
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i have not started, but i must use u=sin4x for substituition
Rewrite cos^3(4x) as cos^2(4x) * cos(4x)
Rewrite cos^2(4x) using the Pythagorean identity
ohh ok, and what answer do you get?
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yes but we have to do it by using u/substituition
Rewrite cos^3(4x) = cos^2(4x) * cos(4x) using the trig identity sin^2 + cos^2 = 1
then apply u-sub, and don't forget the chain rule
@manic wind how would I apply the trig identity now?
rewrite cos^2(4x) in terms of sins
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im not sure how to think abotu this
for both c and d
like visualization
i got 32/3 for c
and 20/3 for d
seems wrong t me
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hi, im learning about chebyshev's inequality for my stats final, I see two versions of the equation and is wondering if someone could explain how they are the same
It's the same I think since variance is sigma^2, and you can make substitution to get from one to the other
i = k * sigma, so k = i / sigma, 1/k^2 = sigma^2 / i^2 = var[X] / i^2
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how does 27 ^1/2 changes to 55?
27 ^1/2
there is no exponentiation going on. this is twenty-seven and a half, not 27 raised to the power of 1/2.
also the second equation had both of its sides multiplied by 2
so 55/2 * 2 = 55
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how do i write the solution
can someone help me with this math problem i dont get it
im supposed to find the volume
{() or () or () ... ()}?
and round to the 2nd decimal
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oooh wait im sorry i thought help 0 was the free channel
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L is intersection line of x^2+y^2+z^2 = 1 and x + y + z= 1 ,how can it solve like this
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did you mean how the integral I becomes the last line?
the only part I don't understand is that why dx becomes (z-y)/√2 ds
yep
do you know why is this so? because i can explain for the other parts
same as me , that step is what make me confused
hmmmm
@flat vale did you figure it out?
do you recall any relationship between ds and dx? just curious
i really wish i can help, but that part really stops me
yea i got it bro
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Let the triangle ABC square at A. The BD is the bisector of the angle ABC
(DE AC), the DE is perpendicular to BC (E = BC).
a) Prove that: Triangle ABD = Triangle EBD
b) Prove that BD is the perpendicular duty of the segment AE.
c) Let F be the intersection of AB and DE. Prove that D is the mind of Triangle FBC.
do you maybe have a picture of the problem as stated originally?
send a picture
It in a different language tho
does not matter
Pro_Hecker
ah, belongs to
Ye
and you are having trouble making the diagram?
ok sure let's go step by step with the diagram
draw a right triangle and label it ABC, such that A is the right angle
no
It will be hard for me to translate ur text while doing the math problem
i don't have any paper with me right now and it would be pointless if i drew it anyway
and i don't speak Vietnamese so i cannot do anything with the language barrier
a right triangle is not hard to draw. should not be hard to draw.
and label it ABC, such that A is the right angle
well, the angle doesn't look evenly split, but that's probably okay for now.
We finished the drawing?
Sorry to intervene but looks like OhZ drew this such that D is the midpoint of AC, which is not what was asked
Unless that's just a coincidence, in which case my bad
botd
Ann, we draw DE in the middle of BC?
that doesn't make sense...
we drop a perpendicular from D onto BC. and E is where it lands.
E in the middle of BC?
ok now you have the diagram
i can give you some pointers for a
but i don't know what "perpendicular duty" means in b, nor what the "mind of a triangle" is in c
It’s okay
triangles ABD and EBD share side BD as well as two pairs of angles
Can u present like this one?
A example of it
Ann, it’s okay if you have to go.
Please answer me so I know that u can still help.
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no
Diagram
a) Prove that: Triangle ABD = Triangle EBD
b) Prove that BD is the perpendicular duty of the segment AE.
c) Let F be the intersection of AB and DE. Prove that D is the mind of Triangle FBC.
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Hello I need help
is it the same one from before
yes
the one with the clock
But
okay
yeah sorry i had to disappear for a moment
the minute hand shows 36 minutes
So?
a minute ago it would have been ??:35
no need to spam....
the minute hand traverses an hour marking every 5 minutes
when the time is a whole hour the minute hand is on the 12
at ??:05 it is at the 1, at ??:10 it is at the 2, etc.
yes that's how analog clocks work lol
then the time would have been ??:24, and it would be impossible for the minute hand to be where it is drawn to be
you are overusing the word "it" here so i cannot tell what you are trying to ask
no
Why not?
if the hour hand is 2/5 of the way from one hour mark to the next, then the time is ??:24.
it is not 04:00.
04:24?
no
Why?
it may be 04:24 but it may also not be 04:24
But you said this here
at ??:05 the minute hand is at the 1
and at ??:10 the minute hand is at the 2
again with this overuse of "it"
.....
wtf are you on about
if the hour hand is 2/5 of the way from one hour mark to the next, then the time is ??:24. the time could be 01:24 or 02:24 or 03:24 etc it doesn't HAVE TO BE 04:24 specifically...
aaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
do you genuinely not understand the difference between "the time", "the hour hand" and "the minute hand" or are you being dense on purpose here
The hour hand
should we go over this AGAIN for the fifth time
or does "how can A be 8?" mean "i am absolutely convinced that A is not 8 and cannot be 8 by any means and it's your job to convince me otherwise"?
Can you explain me how the clock works?
you want an explanation of how analog clocks work in general?
No I know how to read the clock
well you are having trouble with the concept of "at 35 minutes past the hour, the minute hand points at the 7 mark"
Because there are no numbers to indicate that it's seven
yes but the point is you RECOVER those numbers because you KNOW that it's 36 min past the hour
Yes
Explain to ke
Me
That if it's 36 past the hour how can it be 7
Explain the me how to recover them when they say 36 past the hour
if it (the time) were 35 min past the hour then the minute hand would point directly at the 7 mark
do you or do you not understand this?
:00 => minute hand points at 12
:05 => minute hand points at 1
:10 => minute hand points at 2
:15 => minute hand points at 3
:20 => minute hand points at 4
:25 => minute hand points at 5
:30 => minute hand points at 6
:35 => minute hand points at 7
:40 => minute hand points at 8
:45 => minute hand points at 9
:50 => minute hand points at 10
:55 => minute hand points at 11
the minute hand tells you how many minutes it is past the hour
the clock face has 12 hour marks, and the minute hand traverses them all in 60 minutes, so each hour mark corresponds to 5 minutes
Yes but on the picture the minute hand it 1 minute past another numbrr
0:
I understand
yes exactly
Wow I didn't know that
you didn't know that yet you claim you knew how to read analog clocks???
The time question was like the only one I got wrong
And the next question I will show you now
I dont even know how to figure this one out
i would need some paper to show this
?
sorry, i am running around doing paperwork. i cannot guarantee zero-delay responses on my part.
anyway like. chart out the movement of A and B during A's first three laps
for a start
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How do i do this?
@red vault what method do you use to foil
It says “perform the indicated operations”
I think its foil
then do foil
Idk how because it has 2 different variables
Nvm i got it
Idk how to do this one at all
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I don't know how to solve this
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Cross multiply first, then simplify both the numerators and denominators the furthest you can. After that, you got to use properties of the powers and exponents
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what are the prime numbers between 90 and 100
numbers that can be divided by 1 and itself
like 2 can be divided by 1 and itself get it?
what
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ok my school system is diferent from yours
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Verify that the line l3: 2x - 3y = -15 passes through A and that the line l1: 5x + 12y = 60 passes through B.
What is A, and what is B?
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A is the point (0, 5) and B is the point (12, 0).
It's easy ti verify, you need to transform the equation 2x - 3y = -15 to have only y on a member.
You set a function f(x) = y = (the other member of the transformed equation).
And you verify if f(x coordonate of A) = y coordonate of A and f(x coordonate of B) = y coordonate of B.
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Is correct????Similarly, to check if the line l1 passes through point B (12,0), we can substitute x=12 and y=0 into the equation:
5x + 12y = 60
5(12) + 12(0) = 60
60 = 60
The equation is also true, which means that the line l1 passes through point B.
To transform the equation 2x - 3y = -15 to have only y on one side, we can rearrange it as follows:
2x - 3y = -15
-3y = -2x - 15
y = (2/3)x + 5
Now we have the equation of the line in slope-intercept form (y = mx + b), where the slope (m) is 2/3 and the y-intercept (b) is 5.
To check if the line passes through point A (0, 5), we can substitute x = 0 and y = 5 into the equation:
y = (2/3)x + 5
5 = (2/3)(0) + 5
5 = 5
The equation is true, which means that the line passes through point A.
Yes, it's correct !
Yes, it's correct too and you have a really good redaction 😮 !
Great job, it just needs to do the same thing for point B and it's good.
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Ok, thank you for your help
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@autumn sable yes
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How would be the correct input for geogebra for this limits. I get the limit input is lim = f(x) as x->1
But not the curly bracket part, I do it in two inputs or is there a notation in missing.
Geogebra or chat gpt, just trying to get how to input this kind of functions
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Both, learning how to solve it but in stucked trying to input this to chat gpt where i study and develop my questions
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Can someone help
Did I do this correctly? J have to find the derivative
,w derivative of (cos(t)-1)(2t^3-t^2)
did i do it wrong
oh, is it just another way of writing it
mhm
yours is way better formatted imo
wolframs look horrible
yeah lol
derivitvie again?
yep
they multiplied by x on top and bottom
did i not?
your still missing a 2 no?
as I pointed out in the other channel...
you're still missing a facto of 2
this has 2x^2
what do you mean, do I need to add 2x^2 to the numerator?
there numerator has -2x^2
and you need x^2 on your numerator too
so how whould i write that
okay
perfect
thanks lol
can you help me with this one?
i think all are correct expept a because you cannot determine from the given information
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@slender furnace use another help channel.
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Hi there I am stuck from the line 1 to line 2 would anyone be able to explain the process I king of understand it but im not too sure
The two sine functions are the same so its the same as saying 2 times sin(pi/6)
my guess was 1/3 (2sin 2pi/6 which would give me 60 degrees instead of the 30 i need to get the 1/2 and for the second part i dont get how it would be 2/3 when it was 1/3 if that makes any sense what i said
wait u dont divide the bottom denominator right
$\sin{\frac{\pi}{6}} + \sin{\frac{\pi}{6}} = 2\cdot \sin{\frac{\pi}{6}}$
Kookiemon
so the 1/3 (2sin pi/6) 2/3 of sin pi/6 and pi/6 is 1/2 so then it would be 2/3 * 1/2 right?
Correct.
OMG thank you so much ive been at it for 30 minutes appreciate it
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2. I have begun but got stuck midway
3. I got an answer but I'm told it's wrong
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What does it mean for graphs to intersect?
they cross at one or more points
Exactly. So at the points of intersection they will have the same (x, y) coordinates
yes
At the intersection, both graphs will have the same value of y
So, we can rearrange both equations to be functions of y (writing it as y = ...)
Since they have the same values of y at the intersection, both functions of y are equal
Does this make sense so far?
With both functions of y equal to each other, we can find the solve for the values of x
These values of x correspond to the y-coordinates of the intersections, and thus we find the (x, y) points of intersection
i understand
Cool! Try to work through it and let me know if you have anymore questions!
thank you
No problem!
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cn someone check if i did this correctly
The math checks out.
so the total distance traveled would be 3 correct
abs value of -3
Yes, it travelled -3 feet from its initial position but the total displacement is the absolute value of -3.
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Looks good.
Looks good.
Looks good.
wait, its asking for 0.1
i got 1.4
Sounds good.
this is a review sheet for my exam in 2 weeks by the way, thanks for checking my work
i believe a is (-3,0)U(0,3)
And what makes you think that?
because the curve is concave down there
what do you think
i have no idea how to do b
What does the first derivative say about a curve?
it gives the slope of the curve at a specific point
And if the slope is positive?
the derivative of the function will also be positive?
But what does a positive slope say about the function? Is it increasing or decreasing?
increasing
And is a function increasing or decreasing when the slope is negative?
decreasing
no change?
would "b" be (-5,0)U(5,inf)
oh
So for some arbitrarily small distance, as long as the y value from one point to the next increases, the function is increasing.
On the left side, where is the graph increasing?
-inf,-3?
3,inf
And where is it decreasing?
-3,3?
Yes. Are they brackets or parentheses?
Brackets on the closed intervals
x=-3 and x=3 aren't inclusive of the intervals because the slope changes from negative to positive and vice versa.
okay
so
So at those points on the interval, you would use parentheses to show that those values of x are not included on the interval.
okay
going back to the question, so b is (-inf,-3)U(3,inf)
Kookiemon
and a would be (-3,0)U(0,3)
would c be the same as a?
Yes.
so c is (-3,0)U(0,3)
now i have no idea about d and e
The second derivative of a function indicates if a curve is concave up or concave down.
If the second derivative is positive, then it is concave up. If it is negative, then it is concave down.
Can you identify the intervals with that information?
by "it" you mean the original function?
Yes.
concave up at (-inf,-3)U(3,inf) (same as b)
concave down at (-3,0)U(0,3) (same as c)
@waxen flame
No
what do you mean
Concave up means the open end of the curve is pointed upwards and vice versa for concave down.
The point at which the curve switches from concave up to concave down, or vice-versa, is called the inflection point.
The inflection point will be an endpoint of the intervals for the second derivative.
is that related to crossing the x axis
No.
so, what would the interval be
One second, I'm making a graph that should explain things better than I can in words.
Yeah.
So this shows this intervals where the slopes are positive and negative. They correspond with a positive and negative first derivative.
ah i see
Hmm, I'm having some difficult making the graph so it shows concavity. This may take about 3 or 4 minutes.
no worries, you can just explain by words
Well, here the arrowing is pointing downwards to indicate the open end of the curve.
yeah
Here the curve is still pointed downwards. There is an inflection point at (0,0) where the open-end of the curve changes though.
okay
The second derivative "determines if that arrow is pointed upwards or downwards" to indicate concavity.
This is for a visual reference only.
yep
If the second derivative is positive, then the function is concave up.
If the second derivative is negative, then the function is concave down.
As I mentioned, there is an inflection point at (0,0) where the concavity changes from negative to positive.
That inflection point will be an end point of the intervals.
would it be -3,0
No, the interval of positivity for the second derivative will be from (0, +inf).
The inflection point is the endpoint of the interval for the second derivative.
and would the interval for negativity be -inf,0
this look right
the first derivative?
would i get points taken off on an exam for doing that
doing (-3,0)U(0,3)
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alright, thanks for the help
np
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can someone please explain to me how these are wrong
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you missed the brackets after 1/3.
missed the brackets? I'm sorry not sure I understand
Am i not just supposed to multiply both sides by 1/3 to get rid of it from x
i would write 1/3(x+12pi/6) in a different form as you:
yeah but i dont think it would change the answer would it
yes, it would. as there should be 1/3 at the 12pi/6 part.
and there is a second thing i do not understand.
what is it you don't understand
yes but i did 12 pi/ 6 first before subtracting it from the other side
on a calculator
i would have $\frac{x}{3}+\frac{1}{3}\cdot\frac{12\cdot \pi}{6}$, and the second thing is the transformation to the next line.
ThM
where did the + 1/3 come from though..?
I don't know why im getting these questions wrong i've never had trouble with transformation questions before
there isn't a + 1/3
there's a sum of two things, which is because of "x-12pi/6", and both of those things are multiplied by 1/3, because initially the sum was multiplied by 1/3 and then we distributed that
exactly. you have multiply x with 1/3 and you have multiply 12pi/6 with 1/3, thats exactly what i did.
i dont think that's what normally happens though hold on let me send you a screenshot of my notes
the first side with x isnt touched
the number is just switched to the other side
your mixing up things.
first: distributive law says how to expand a multiplicative term before brackets into the brackets.
second: your example shows an additive transformation of an equations. thats just something complete different.
alright i got it sorry about that
i forgot about a couple things
and btw the example is ambigous. i have seen different interpretations for 1/3y in my life. Some people say it is $\frac{1}{3}\cdot y$, some say it is $\frac{1}{3y}$
ThM
ok this I now understand i got wrong thank you but I'm still confused on the first one
it's really straight forward
1 is the a value 4 is the c value
i've had the exact same questions on other transformation questions from other units and never got them wrong
so, if youre convinced it is the same as ever and it is right, so what can someone do then for you?
i'm just saying it's the same as i've always done but it's wrong so I'm just confused
this is from my notes
move the 8 to the other side
divide both sides by -9
again, this is not the case you are starting in this example.
First we have to be clear how you learned this:
i learned it as 1/3y
ok, lets set y = 2, what is the value of 1/3y?
1/6
ok, for you it is $\frac{1}{3y}$
ThM
$\frac{1}{3(x+\frac{12\pi}{6})}$
ThM
yes i got it I understand this question now thank you
ok, then we can close this channel?