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rocky tendon
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or will it be deleted

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true true

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let me do that

void solar
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It'll always be here

rocky tendon
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thanks bro i appriciate it alot

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ohh even if i close it?

void solar
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yes

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It might be a pain to find

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But you can always use the search function

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alpine sable
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  1. is the one i need help with
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can I use algebra to solve it? how do you go about sketching it

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rigid smelt
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well you do need a bit of algebra to "sketch" the intequality

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so the answer to that is yes

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about sketching it, how familiar are you with sketching inequalities?

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starting from inequalities involving linear functions to polynomials of higher degrees and other curves?

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vital zenith
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May i ask how do i factor this?

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vital zenith
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$9k^2 - 25 = 0$

ocean sealBOT
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leewchaha

vital zenith
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im using this method but it doesnt work out for me

wanton pebble
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15x

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you are making it complicated

slender marten
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Write 9k^2 as (3k)^2 to obtain (3k)^2 - 5^2 and you might recognise this as the difference of two squares which can then be simplified.

vital zenith
ocean sealBOT
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leewchaha

vital zenith
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is this the final answer?

wanton pebble
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no

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just do it as simply as u can

vital zenith
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$(3k)^2 - 5^2$

ocean sealBOT
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leewchaha

wanton pebble
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yes

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dont ever forget to use =0

vital zenith
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oh thanks

wanton pebble
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or just simply take k on one side and other terms on other side of equality

slender marten
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(a^2 - b^2) = (a - b)(a + b) so let a = 3k and b = 5 to obtain the desired result.

wanton pebble
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k^2= 25/9

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then solve

vital zenith
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oh

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lemme think this through

vital zenith
slender marten
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Yes. To prove this just expand (a - b)(a + b).

vital zenith
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oh thats awesome. are there other standardized solution like this and (a + b)^2 = a^2 + 2ab + b^2 ?

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it would definitely be easier for me to udnerstand

slender marten
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Well I'd have probably seen the simplification instantly due to experience of seeing it many times but there may be others I don't know of.

vital zenith
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thanks alot though !

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idle steppe
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hi!

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idle steppe
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not sure how to ccomputee the derivative with respect to t of that equatiion

ionic trail
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Chain rule:
u(v(t))' = u'(v(t))*v'(t)

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u(t) = t² ; v(t) = y(t)

idle steppe
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isnt it (y(t))^2 not t^2

ionic trail
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u(v(t)) = (y(t))² with that definition of u and v

idle steppe
ionic trail
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Yes!

idle steppe
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hmm ok now how do i prove its a constant

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oh wait u factor out a 2y'

ionic trail
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We know that y'' = -y
(Sorry, -y, not -y')

ionic trail
idle steppe
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so that equals 0?

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is y(t) the same as y?

ionic trail
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Strictly speaking, y(t) is y evaluated at t. y is just the function itself

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But yeah, it's y''(t) = -y(t) is more precise

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Its true for all t

idle steppe
ionic trail
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Derivative of a const is 0

idle steppe
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ohhhh!

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for some reason i didnt connect that last dot lol

ionic trail
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Glad to help

idle steppe
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keen plinth
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i assume your system is (y, y')

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so the phase plane is graphing y' against y

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if y^2 + y'^2 = constant

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then that is a circle on the plane

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which means your solution is a periodic solution

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which should make sense

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since it is the equation of a harmonic oscillator

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@idle steppe

idle steppe
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Ok tysm!

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That makes sense

idle steppe
keen plinth
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it is fine

idle steppe
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Ok thank you for all ur help today! I truly and sincerely appreciate it.

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alpine sable
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Since hashing functions will take in an arbitrary-sized stream of bytes and return a fixed sized byte stream, would it be correct to state that for a given output, there are infinite inputs that would produce it? Thanks.

keen plinth
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this is probably not true in general

alpine sable
keen plinth
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suppose the fixed size output is of size 1

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let the hashing function h send only 0 to 0

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but any other input to 1

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then for the given output of 0

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there is only one input that will produce it

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namely 0

alpine sable
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But I reckon h wouldn't be considered a hashing function by definition. The output is meant to be completely different, no matter the difference in two given inputs. So both 1, 1.00000001 and 25987525 will have the exact same output.

keen plinth
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then it will depend in your definition of what a hashing function is

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i agree that a "good" hashing function should not do what i suggested

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but that does not preclude it from being a hashing function

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it would just be a very poor one

alpine sable
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Yeah, I see. Let's pick a specific one, then. Say SHA512. Would it be right to make that statement about it?

keen plinth
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then it is quite possibly true

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but that is only a specific case

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it is not a statement that can be said of every hashing function

alpine sable
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It's not true in general, I see.

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Well, that clarifies a lot, thanks.

keen plinth
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np

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modest perch
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Hello, how can I prove that the function $\frac{\left(e^{x}-1\right)}{x}$ is bounded on the interval ]0;1]?

ocean sealBOT
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Keroro

modest perch
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It's the derivative of the function $\left(\int_{1}^{x}\frac{\left(e^{t}\right)}{t}dt\ -\ln\ x\right)$ , i have to show that it's bounded and from that, prove that the function g is also bounded on the same interval

solemn juniper
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Might need to remove the space after first $

modest perch
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(g is the function with the integral)

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Keroro

slender marten
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I think you just need to show that the limit as x goes to 0+ of (e^x - 1)/x is finite. L'hopital's rule will show it equals 1.

marsh rapids
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depending on your level of knowledge of analysis, you can show it's continuous on [0, 1] (by setting f(0) = 1) then you know it's bounded because continuous on a closed set. From the derivative being bounded the MVT then gives that g is bounded

modest perch
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is ]0;1] a closed set ?

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i think the ]0 prevents from using that theorem

marsh rapids
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no. Intervals are closed iff they include the bounds

modest perch
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huh so i have to like "extend" it to 0

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by continuity

marsh rapids
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yes

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torpid shoal
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need help :>

alpine sable
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$g(f(x))$ can never be negative.

ocean sealBOT
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R00tKiT

torpid shoal
# alpine sable how did you get -1

I actually don't know how my friend got that answer. he is asking me for help but i also don't know how to do it can you teach me so I can help him?

gray isle
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get them here?

torpid shoal
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okok brb

gray isle
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dunno why people are asking people that don't know

torpid shoal
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ill add him

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he's here

gray isle
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ok,

how did you get -1

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for f(g(1))

torpid shoal
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he told me he needs to wait 10 mins before he can put a message

gray isle
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mmk

torpid shoal
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he told me he got it by replacing x with 1

gray isle
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would like to see the work for it

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because doing subbing in x=1 properly doesn't get what's in those boxes

stuck canyon
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Hi

gray isle
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are you the original owner of that question

stuck canyon
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Yeah

gray isle
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can you show all the work you did

stuck canyon
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Oh this is what i did and got 1

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The (-) was a mistake

gray isle
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that would be the value of f(1),
which isn't what the question is asking for

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limpid spade
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Lol

stuck canyon
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How do i solve it?

gray isle
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for
f(g(1)),
first find g(1)

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alpine sable
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Why is the intersection between 2 spans is the equality between them?

worn fox
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What do you mean?

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alpine sable
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lets say span [A] intersection span[B]
my lecturer opened up the spans and made equality between them

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aV1 + bV2 + cV3 = alphaU1 + betaU2 + gamaU3

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my question is why "aV1 + bV2 + cV3 = alphaU1 + betaU2 + gamaU3" is the same as "lets say span [A] intersection span[B]"

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alpine sable
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let me screenshot it 1 sec

worn fox
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So if we want to find something in both spans, we need to set two general elements equal and see what conditions on the coefficients we get

alpine sable
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"finding the intersection between 2 spans"

alpine sable
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okey i see

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thank u bro

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not sure what the answer is

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alpine sable
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I have solved this question correctly.

I am wondering if there is an easier approach - specifically if there is a way to combine the first two combinations into a single combination.

Also is it correct to call those n choose k terms "a combination/combinations" or are they called something else?

Thanks

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prime spindle
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how find in terms of alpha beta

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glad osprey
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🤡

alpine sable
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then solve the other equation like you would normally do

prime spindle
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I found alpha+beta and alpha x beta

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What do i do with these

alpine sable
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do you know how to calculate the discrimnant ?

prime spindle
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Triangle

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=b^2

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-4ac

alpine sable
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yes

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Can you recheck my result

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I have a one

prime spindle
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Hmmm

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Me no get

alpine sable
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Let the diophanite equation be ax² + by² = c

My thereom first equate ≥ any one term of x or y
Let y term, ⇒ by² ≥ 0
Adding ax² to both sides
ax² + by² ≥ ax²
Now there is a possible case
ax² ≤ c
⇒ - √c/a ≤ x ≤ √c/a

Now put integer values of x in this range so that output will be an integer let the process as function f(x)

Now to cross check, do same with x term or if you don't then no problem (note some rare cases may be)
Our solution set will be the inputs and outputs of the function f(x)

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Please check one time

prime spindle
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Get tf out of here

alpine sable
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Ok

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😔

prime spindle
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Get your own help channel

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alpine sable
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ok

acoustic thunder
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hey how do i find b?

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turbid violet
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what's the upperbound for the sum

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ah ok nvm it's l

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what's your solution for a?

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turbid violet
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well the number of terms would be l-4 right?

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do you see why that would be the case?

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dark trail
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i need help pls

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dark trail
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how do i integrate by parts the question below

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integrate (x^2+x-4)/x+2 by parts

hazy violet
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Divison rule

dark trail
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yeah i tried that

hazy violet
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Ah

dark trail
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lemme show u what ive doen so far

hazy violet
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OK

dark trail
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But I’m still confused

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It’s sending btw @hazy violet

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Potato Wi-Fi

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It’s done that’s what I’ve tried to do but now I’m hella confused

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@hazy violet how would u divide or do integration by parts

keen plinth
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is this an integration by parts question?

dark trail
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yes

keen plinth
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it's not typically something you'd do by parts

dark trail
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but i got to put it into partial fractions

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it says

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solve these derivatives

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or find the integrals by first splitting the expression into partial fractions

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Q11b

keen plinth
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so it is not by parts

dark trail
keen plinth
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it's a rule you can use to decide how to integrate by parts

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but it's not necessary here since you shouldn't even use by parts

dark trail
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Is splitting into partial fractions and integrating by parts the same thing?

keen plinth
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no

dark trail
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Oh

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So

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What’s the difference

keen plinth
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they are completely different methods that can be used for integration

dark trail
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Ahhhh they sound so similar

keen plinth
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by parts is the product rule of differentiation but backwards

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partial fractions decomposes rational functions

dark trail
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What’s rational functions?

keen plinth
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p(x)/q(x)

dark trail
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Ahhh

keen plinth
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where both p and q are polynomial

dark trail
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So what do I do here?

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THAT MAKES SENSE

keen plinth
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not really partial fractions

dark trail
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So 11d would be by parts?

keen plinth
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since you only have 1 linear factor

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nay

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all of 11 are some form of partial fractions

hazy violet
dark trail
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Bruh this is confusing . Maybe it’ll marinate later . But how do I do this then?

keen plinth
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3ii is something you would do by parts

keen plinth
dark trail
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Is it right?

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My friend did this

keen plinth
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rewrite the integrand as something of the form ax + b + c/(x+2)

dark trail
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But there’s supposed to be a plus sign between the brackets

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What he did is sending

keen plinth
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yes

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that will work

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then you should know how to integrate each bit separately

dark trail
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Gimme five minutes to do that pls

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In that time could u explain why he’s right?

keen plinth
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do you know how to do polynomial division

dark trail
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I tried it at first

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But got confused

keen plinth
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hmm

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i can't really type out equations as i'm on a phone

dark trail
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No problem Ill research more

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On polynomial division

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The issue is I’ve never seen the answer turn out like he did

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It’s like he took out the -x from the original quadratic on top

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Divided it by x+2

keen plinth
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yes that's how you do polynomial division without doing polynomial division

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it's essentially magic

dark trail
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And created a difference of two squares which he also divided by x+2

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Damn

keen plinth
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you only do that if you know what you're doing

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but if you don't

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then the systematic route is doing long division

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you will get the same answer

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with less brain and magic

dark trail
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So did he do it like quadratic function/linear function= 0

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Then take the x to the left since it was +

keen plinth
dark trail
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Oof

keen plinth
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it has the same result as polynomial division

dark trail
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Damn i gotta work harder

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Ok so far I’ve integrated so I get x^2-2x

keen plinth
dark trail
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Ya il do that the long division next time

keen plinth
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if we compare against the original integral

dark trail
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Oh th he said I missed the + sign or something

keen plinth
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yeah

dark trail
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Between the brackets

keen plinth
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that part

dark trail
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What level of algebra would what he did be? University or the year before university which is called a levels

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I need to learn that method I hate long division

keen plinth
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it is elementary algebra

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just clever application of it

dark trail
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Bruh

keen plinth
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it is not something that is "taught" per se

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it is something that you just have to build up intuition for

dark trail
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Y’all are geniuses fr

keen plinth
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you mistake experience for intelligence

dark trail
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Now my brain is going blank I’m struggling to integrate x-2x

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I’ve got x^2/2

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But -2 should be -2x right

keen plinth
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so the expression you're integrating should be something like

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$x - 1 - \frac 2 {x + 2}$

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i believe

ocean sealBOT
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夢雪

keen plinth
dark trail
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And should I split each by doing this

keen plinth
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yes that will work

dark trail
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Perfect lemme do that now

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Final answer

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11c would be polynomial division again without the polynomial division 😂

keen plinth
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wonderful

dark trail
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This plagued me for 4 days

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I avoided revision because I couldn’t move forward on this question

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Thanks so much bro

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Could you quickly lead me in the right direction to do the magic method?

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Like a video on elementary fractional division but on a PHd level

keen plinth
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i'm not sure if such resources exist

dark trail
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Damn bruh 😭

keen plinth
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it's more just a thing you realise will work

dark trail
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If only I had common sense and experience like that 💀

keen plinth
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like say for the next one

dark trail
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Ok so polynomial division for 11c

keen plinth
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2x^2 + x - 7

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x - 3

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what you could do is see that the denominator is x - 3

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and try to match it on the numerator

dark trail
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Hmm

keen plinth
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so you could write 2x^2 - 6x + 7x - 7

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then the 2x^2 - 6x = 2x(x - 3)

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which allows you to cancel the x - 3

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then you're left with 2x + (7x - 7)/(x - 3)

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then you just repeat

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match the denominator by writing 7x - 21 + 14

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and 7x - 21 = 7(x - 3)

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which cancels

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and you get 2x + 7 + 14/(x - 3)

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and that's done

dark trail
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Imma screenshot all this and try it continuously

keen plinth
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like

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it's polynomial division but using more brain power

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there's not much point to it apart from stroking your own ego

dark trail
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But how do u split those to be integrated ? Like all the plus signs act as walls where by what’s behind the wall gets integrated individually

keen plinth
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the integral of a sum of things

dark trail
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So 2x integrated then 7 then the fraction as we did before

keen plinth
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is the sum of the integrals of those things

dark trail
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Ahhh ok

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So we split it like I did before integrate x then 1 then the 2(x+2)^-1

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Kk lemme try understand your method and complete the question

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yes

dark trail
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I think I get it

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Nah nvm but somehow I got to 2x +7+14/x-3

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-7—21= 14

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7x/7x = 7

keen plinth
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Ooof 😭

keen plinth
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i didn't check the working

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but

dark trail
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Lemme just find polynomial dividing calculator atp

keen plinth
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i haven't checked it yet

dark trail
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Np I’ll do it the standard way

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Then ask u if I’m right

keen plinth
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i checked it

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it is correct

dark trail
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Geez u were right

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Imma have to try this out but how

keen plinth
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it's not worth doing

dark trail
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Fr? Ir seems quicker

keen plinth
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you can calculate it using synthetic division in a fraction of the time

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and space

dark trail
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Some sites say this

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Oof he was tryna flex on me it seems looool

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Yeah same thing

keen plinth
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yep

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synthetic division will give you the answer without even needing you to use your brain

marble oxide
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where should i go for help on business math

keen plinth
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the help channels

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most likely

marble oxide
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is there a specific one

dark trail
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After finishing 11d I’m gonna eat a crack load of ramen to refill my expended brain power

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im dying trying to figure these out

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@marble oxide this isn't a discussion channel

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please go elsewhere

dark trail
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@marble oxide go to the available help channels

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Like help 13 currently

keen plinth
dark trail
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Ahh ok my bad

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And for 11 d what shall I fo?

keen plinth
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now you must partial fraction

dark trail
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So split the quadratic on top

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Then do A/x-1 and b/(x-1)^2

keen plinth
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the numerator has to have a degree less than the denominator

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before you do partial fraction decomposition

dark trail
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Uhhh

keen plinth
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you'll never get the x^2 term on top otherwise

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so essentially the deal is

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do polynomial division to reduce the degree

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then do partial fractions on the remainder

dark trail
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so i divide the quadratic by x-1

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?

keen plinth
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(x-1)^2

dark trail
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damn that seems complicated as heck

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wolfram to the rescueeee

keen plinth
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it'll be 1 + stuff

dark trail
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so far ive split it so that it looks like xsquard over quadratic

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+(-2x over quadratic)

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+(-5 over quadratic)

keen plinth
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that will not do what you want

dark trail
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ooooffff

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oh yeah u said long division

keen plinth
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so essentially it's like

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x^2 + 2x + 5

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over

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x^2 - 2x + 1

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if you rewrite the numerator as x^2 - 2x + 1 + 4x + 4

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then you can separate the first 3 terms

dark trail
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why rewrite it like tht?

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wheres 4x coming frm

keen plinth
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because then you can cancel from the denominator

dark trail
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is this that magic method agaun?

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x^2 + 2x + 5 = x^2 - 2x + 1 + 4x + 4

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yes

dark trail
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looool

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ok ok

keen plinth
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so then the first 3 terms cancel with the denominator

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and the 4x + 4 is the remainder

dark trail
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leaving 1

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  • 4x+4/quad
keen plinth
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so you get 1 + (4x + 4)/(x - 1)^2

dark trail
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then i need to find

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and that's the partial fraction you need to do

dark trail
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some x-1)^2

keen plinth
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the 4x+4 part

dark trail
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or value of x-1 that can cancel 4x=4

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4x+4

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like 4x-4

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but then i get 0

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@keen plinth im confused sorry

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pls help

dark trail
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where?

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its occupied bro

sour hill
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oh alr

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srrt

dark trail
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np

keen plinth
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so

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partial fractions is like

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(4x + 4)/(x - 1)^2 = a/(x - 1) + b/(x - 1)^2

dark trail
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AHHHH

keen plinth
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what your job is is to solve for a and b

dark trail
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and i select a value tht cancels a or b

keen plinth
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uh

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i'm not sure about that

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the typical way to solve for a and b is to multiply through by (x-1)^2

glossy current
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lemme shwo u

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I multiplied what the a and I’m not sure if it’s accurate e @glossy current

keen plinth
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so you get 4x + 4 = A(x - 1) + B right

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Ahhh

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if you sub in x=1

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A drops out

dark trail
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So yes the B cancels that I know

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so 8 = B

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you then solve for A by matching coefficients

dark trail
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Then I work backwards

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Oh

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we know B = 8

dark trail
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Ok

keen plinth
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which means A = 4

dark trail
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Ahhh

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So the relevance to 4 is that the x in 4x belongs to x=1

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That’s why the coefficient is 4

keen plinth
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its not that there's x=1

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Well there's another way but you should practice this method

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First

keen plinth
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it's that if you write out the right

dark trail
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Yes sir

keen plinth
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you get Ax - A + B

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that has to equal 4x + 4

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the x coefficients must match

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so A = 4

dark trail
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Ahhh

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Ok . Imma pretend I got all that💀💀 ahhh wait

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Since coefficients of 4x+4 are equal

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And Ax-A exists

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The coefficients must be 4

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Since it’s kind of of the same form

keen plinth
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there's also B

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we are equating 4x + 4 = Ax - A + B

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this means A = 4 and -A + B = 4

dark trail
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Ah ok ok

keen plinth
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because the coefficients must be the same for the equation to hold over all values of x

keen plinth
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so we know A = 4 and B = 8

dark trail
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So u get this to be integrated

keen plinth
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otherwise it would be redundant

dark trail
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Generally tho. With these types of questions. You’re trying to reduce and split the fractions to be integrated in parts

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Ahh ok I’ll change that

dark trail
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Will u always have an instance whereby ln|fx| will be integral

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With these types of qs

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it is common

dark trail
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Ahh ok ok

keen plinth
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partial fractions means you get stuff that looks like 1/(x - c)

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so you'll almost always get logs

dark trail
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Ahhh ok .

glossy current
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If you've done, ping me. I'll show you another elegant method

keen plinth
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well

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if you want to do magic

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you can

glossy current
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Yes

keen plinth
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its not generally useful though

dark trail
glossy current
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Partion fraction is usually long
There's better ones

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,tex

Another way to do it without original partion fraction is to do algebra manipulation.\\
$\begin{aligned}
I&=\int \frac{x^2+x-4}{x+2} dx\\
&=\int \frac{(x^2+4x+4)-(3x+8)}{x+2} dx\\
&=\int \frac{(x+2)^2}{x+2}-\frac{3x+6+2}{x+2} dx\\
&=\int (x+2) -3\frac{x+2}{x+2}-\frac{2}{x+2} dx\\
&= \frac{x^2}{2}-x+2\ln\abs{x+2}+C\\
\end{aligned}$
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Darkness

keen plinth
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no we did that one already

glossy current
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o why don't you use this way then

keen plinth
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because the integrand is (4x + 4)/(x - 1)^2

glossy current
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Oh that

keen plinth
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to do magic

glossy current
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I think still can

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Use the same method

keen plinth
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you write it as 4x - 4 + 8

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but in general that's not helpful

glossy current
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Not really

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There's a way

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by abusing this property

keen plinth
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in general partial fractions will be arbitrarily bad

glossy current
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$\int \frac{y'}{y} dx= \ln|y|+C$

ocean sealBOT
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Darkness

glossy current
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We notice the denominator is a quadratic form

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The numerator is linear one, which is derivative

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Of the denominator

keen plinth
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that's the same thing as doing magic

glossy current
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Hm

dark trail
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Final answer?

keen plinth
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check the sign

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before the 4ln...

dark trail
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Should be + right

keen plinth
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i think so

glossy current
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Hm it shouldn't be that i believe

keen plinth
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like

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we've been working through this question over quite a bit of length

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so there's more to it than what i've just mentioned

glossy current
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Nvm it's correct
I mislook at 4x-4 instead of 4x+4

keen plinth
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if you want to help then i would recommend reading through the whole history

dark trail
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This has been hell. I’ve changed it to x +4ln…

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Im glad it’s all over thank you all I’ve learn so much

keen plinth
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np

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Now I’ve gotta make myself some damn good ramen noodles

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Air hug to u guys ❤️

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Is (x^2)/x equal to x?

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As with the first equation it is undefined when x=0

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However in the second it is not

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they are not equal

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however, you can continuously extend the function x^2/x to the function x at the point x=0

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hi i got a question, at what point if f discontinous? and what point is f not differentiable

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how can i tell from.a graph if its discontinous?

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that's weird... it's not even the graph of a function

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seems like a mistake and maybe the "vertical line" at x = 0 isn't supposed to be there

alpine sable
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either somebody was using a stupid program or was trying to be too clever and not to show obvious discontinuity

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maybe it's just really steep

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doing some trig homework

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got no clue how that simplyfiys to 5 2squared

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can you send a screenshot instead

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Yeah, reuploading it

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Hey, I was catching up with summer work and I'm stuck on this problem. I have the answer but I don't understand how to get the answer

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The answer was 21%

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@crimson carbon

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how many ways are there to choose 8 sketches out of 40 (with no restrictions?)

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Would it be 76,904,685?

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Hello?

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did you do

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crimson carbon
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I'm a little lost, what does this mean?

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40 choose 8

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how many ways there are to choose 8 items out of 40

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that color 👏🏻

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I thought I did do it

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slow hound
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yeah

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,w 40 choose 8

slow hound
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yeah thats what you did

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👏

crimson carbon
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I don't know how to get the probability from there now

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That was the first half of the problem

slow hound
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so that's the total amount of ways

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yeah

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now we can tackle the second half

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probability is # of successful outcomes / total outcomes

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we can imagine the 40 sketches listed as follows

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XXXXXAAAAAAAA....AAAA

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where there are 5 X's (your sketches) and 35 others (other ones)

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that total to 40

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with me so far?

crimson carbon
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Yes sorry, was rereading it a bit

slow hound
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we want to pick exactly 2 of your sketches

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how many ways are there to do that?

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(choose 2 X's out of 5)

crimson carbon
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10

slow hound
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yes 5C2

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now we need the other 6 sketches from the other ones

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there are 35 of those

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(choose 6 A's out of 35)

crimson carbon
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Ohh okay, let me write this down hold on

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Would it be 1,623,160?

slow hound
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,w (35 choose 6)

slow hound
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yep

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multiply the two numbers we just got together and that will give you total number of ways to choose exactly 2

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and thats your numerator

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Oh wow, I got it!

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Thank you so much!

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I'm new to this server, but is there like any way I could review you? I really appreciated how you walked me through the whole thing

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Thank you!

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How did he go from the first line to the second

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Like how is $3x/5 . 20 = 12x$

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What's 3/5 * 20?

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Wait do you multiple the 3 or the 5

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$\frac35 \cdot 20$

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You know how to multiply fractions

drowsy scroll
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Is 60/5

worn fox
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Which is?

drowsy scroll
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Ok that is 12

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Uh huh it's the same for the rest, it's just also being timesed by x

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You're welcome

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Why is this true?

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A bit better

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You can times it by $1 =\frac{-1}{-1}$

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Oh wow, OK

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after you've seen it once it's pretty obvious

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For me I would write -b + a for the numerator and then rearrange to put the positive a in front afterwards

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I hope this will not be a problem for me in Calculus to take my time with writing the full steps rather than skipping steps

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And if the instructor skips a step I hope I can spot it

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gotta practice more. then these steps are easier to see and you get faster

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Perhaps writing full steps is better practice to get into for math? Takes longer but instructors will give full marks?

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I dunno haha everyone is at a different level with understanding math. Someone else may see first to last right away someone else may only see it with middle steps involved

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On my case I only see that with the middle step included lol

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never hurts to write more steps

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Hello, this is a solids of revolution problem from Calc II

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And the drawing pic (2nd pic) is my visual interpretation of the problem...

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The problem says that the cross section is a semi-circle...

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And I think the equation of the line is y=-x+14

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How can I set up my integral to calculate the volume of the solid?

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I guess the y-value (or the height) is going to be that length of the semi-circle

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In order to get the radius of the semi-circle you would have to square it then divide it by 2, no?

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Alright so the volume is going to the sum of the areas of each semicircle, which I think you get

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I'm confused.

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So what you're gonna do is treat f(x) is the diameter of each semicircle

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Do you know your formula for the area of a semicircle?

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Sorry, I was drawing a pic of my problem

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Opps

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But it says

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What does it say

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It's incorrect

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My answer is incorrect.

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I don't see how

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Yeah, neither do I.

last ether
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Oh it shojld be 8, not 4

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How so?

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If you could provide an explanation, I'd greatly appreciate it.

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Gimmie time to type it out

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Alright!

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The area of a circle is $πr^2$, right? So if we sub in diameter:

$$\begin{align*}
A &= π\left(\frac{d}{2}\right)^2 \
&= \frac{πd^2}{4}
\end{align*}$$

If we wanna find half the circle area (which is the area of a semicircle), we divide both sides by 2:

$$0.5A = \frac{πd^2}{8}$$

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Your diameter in this case is f(x)

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Hmm, lemme read and interpret it on my own!

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Two glass containers of different sizes are shaped like cubes. How many times bigger
volume does the larger container have than the smaller one?
(1) The larger container holds 113 dm^3 more than the smaller container.
(2) The smaller container has half the base area of the larger container.

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A in (1) but not in (2)
B in (2) but not in (1)
C in (1) together with (2)
D in (1) and (2) separately
E not by both statements

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I'm thinking that there is a relationship between the larger cube and the smaller one, the smaller cube has a base area of a^2/2, doesn't that mean that the base area is half of a^2 for the smaller cube?

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yeah if you assume the base of the larger cube is a^2

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(2) Call the base surface of the larger cube x^2 (the side of the cube is thus x). Since the base area of the smaller cube is half as large, it is (x^2)/2. Each side of this smaller cube is therefore sqrt((x^2)/2)=x/sqrt(2)

The volume of the large cube is x^3
The volume of the smaller cube is (x/sqrt(2))^3=x^3/(2sqrt(2))

You can now derive a relationship between the volumes and it can be solved with B.

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This is the solution provided by my friend, he is saying that this one is more correct. Do you know why?

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well did you understand the question?

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Let's say V_s is the volume of the smaller cube and V_l is the volume of the larger cube. You want to find an equation of the form V_l = kV_s (k is some constant)

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so from just the information in statement 2 you're able to figure out how many times larger the bigger cube is (like how your friend showed)

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what you'd want to check now is that can you do the same with only the information in statement 1?

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try working it out

alpine sable
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@turbid violet (2), so the side of the bigger cube is square root(2)×a?

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yep

turbid violet
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no, it's the same thing

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but that was given in the question

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you need to derive the relation between the volumes

alpine sable
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So if we use my solution method, how would you calculate the ratio between the different volumes of the cubes?

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I.e a^2 = a^2/2

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2a^2 = a^2

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Uh

turbid violet
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that's wrong

alpine sable
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Then multiply by a?

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On both sides

turbid violet
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call the side of the larger cube something else

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it's different

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b or something maybe

turbid violet
alpine sable
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call the side of the smaller cube b

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Then a^2 = 2b^2

turbid violet
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yep

alpine sable
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a = sqrt(2)b

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Right?

turbid violet
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yep

alpine sable
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How do you find the volume?

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a^3 = 2b^3?

turbid violet
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hmmm not exactly

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what's the volume of cube with side a

alpine sable
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a^3

turbid violet
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and for a cube with side b?

alpine sable
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(sqrt(2)b)^3

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2sqrt(2)b^3

turbid violet
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yep

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V_l = 2sqrt(2)V_s

alpine sable
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That’s the volume for a^3

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For the smaller cube, it’s

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b^3

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Right?

turbid violet
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yep

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Thanks

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Hello! The instruction is to write the equation of a circle given the center and the radius. I am not sure if I am correct because the answer online says otherwise??

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this is my answer

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but it says here

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it should be like this??

radiant halo
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radius is √3/3

livid bison
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how did it become that?

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r²=1/3

livid bison
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what happens with that 😅 sorry

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I also don't have the full context of the problem

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Oh wait

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"Write an equation of a circle given the following information" C: (3,0) R: 1/3

radiant halo
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then you're not wrong

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Unless

livid bison
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ohh? so the answer is really 1/9?

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R is a way of saying r²

livid bison
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yes which is why i squared 1/3

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you would square it if r was 1/3

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I'm saying that R might be r²

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In which r becomes √(1/3)

livid bison
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and then what happens?

radiant halo
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You end up with the formula shown in the solution

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r = √3/3

livid bison
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my question is more of how did it turn into 3/3😭 what did u multiply to itt

radiant halo
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Square root of 1/3

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√1/√3

livid bison
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OHHHH

radiant halo
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Then denominator rationalization

livid bison
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OKOK I GET WHY IM WRONG NOW

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the answer is really 1/9 but i

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THANK U ANWAYS 😭

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i got it

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how did i get it wrong

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also this

nocturne dove
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They can be skew lines

wooden compass
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ok

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what about number 8

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because im pretty sure they arent coplanar @nocturne dove

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For part e) of this question

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This is the graph

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I don’t understand the answer here

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Why are they finding the arm span of a student with foot size of 22cm, shouldn’t they be finding it for 31cm ?

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Yes just a mistake in the answer i think

cunning trout
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Ya

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Also

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after we find the equation of line of best fit

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Then can i put it the foot size (31cm) in the equation and find the arm span?

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Also this is the equation of line of best fit

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Or i guess we do that

kindred dagger
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"Use the graph" so i think yes

cunning trout
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kindred dagger
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But you can use the equation too

cunning trout
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Yeah i mean i find it easier ig so i would probably do that

cunning trout
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Yeah

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So we stop at the red line ?

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I mean when it hits the red line

kindred dagger
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But if you want the arm span with the equation, it's better to solve the equation to have a S = smthing before doing calculations

cunning trout
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True

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I think its more better with the equation unless they explicitly ask but yeah

kindred dagger
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In theory you can extand the line as far as you can, but in practice if it's not close to the black dots, we don't know if it's still linear or it does something else

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It's why i think it's the question that got the wrong value, since 31 is quite far from other values

cunning trout
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Hmm true

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But also the more you extend the line the more it doesn’t make sense since its practically weird to have such a foot size then but yeah it makes sense now

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I drew a diagram but it's not really helping and I'm still confused as to what to do but I think the distance between c and b is 1800 miles

gray isle
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show your diagram

mellow crane
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it's not very pretty and it might be wrong

gray isle
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have you done any more work than this

mellow crane
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I tried 40*45=1800miles so I think c to be is 1800miles

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other than that no

gray isle
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why are you multiplying 40 and 45

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gray isle
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consider your units

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time is in minutes, speed is in miles/hour

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gray isle
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yes, that would be the distance between C and B

mellow crane
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so to find the speed of the other truck it's (30+CA)/65?

gray isle
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where's that coming from

mellow crane
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because 20+45=65 minutes for the whole trip and then 30miles+the distance from AC is distance for the whole trip and then d/t=s so then that's the second truck's speed

gray isle
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wdym by whole trip

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those are times from different trucks

mellow crane
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Oh, oops

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so then would I do (30miles+AC)/40miles=45mins+xmins

gray isle
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what's x

mellow crane
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the time it takes to get from a to c for truck b

gray isle
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no

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also that's already given

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and like before, you shouldn't be adding the times from different trucks like this

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ideally in your diagram, you should separate the info for the two different trucks

mellow crane
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oh

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Is this one better

gray isle
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you mixed up your trucks

mellow crane
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oh

gray isle
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