competition-math

[thorny tusk]

fuh no

my school

is just too small for it

like

rly small

[ashen hatch]

my school doesn't have IB but we have a course called IB math that u can choose for like a year

idk how that works

[little wraith]

mine too

but it’s either IB or french bac

[ashen hatch]

oh

[little wraith]

it’s a french school

[ashen hatch]

we have like these igs

and u can choose to take one as a math course in 11th/12th

but they seem kinda boring

[fringe prism]

gg

[thorny tusk]

ib is so time consuming

whats the point of doing it

other than

like

MIT

[ashen hatch]

ik

thats why i looked over it read thru the course descriptions went hell nah

id rather take bc then ts

[thorny tusk]

bru how 'abstract' can school math be

[ashen hatch]

bro ikr

[ashen hatch]

like holy bro, "intellectually equipped to appreciate..."

[thorny tusk]

jesus

wholy word count

[ashen hatch]

ikr

they have these long ahh fake ahh descriptions for each one of the four courses

[thorny tusk]

gosh

its just a math class

[ashen hatch]

ik

[thorny tusk]

ts is so sad

[ashen hatch]

"Throughout the course students are encouraged to take a considered approach to various mathematical activities and to explore different mathematical ideas. " wdym a considered approach 💀

[thorny tusk]

nahh the only mathematical activity ima do is quitting that course bruh

[little wraith]

😭😭✌️

gab isn’t it one for u

[fringe prism]

gg

[thorny tusk]

huh

one wha

?

time?

its 11pm

[little wraith]

oh wherer you?

[thorny tusk]

alberta

mountain daylight time

wiat isnt it 1 for u

[little wraith]

yea 116

i’m est

[thorny tusk]

bruh everyone is est or pst nowadays

[little wraith]

lol yea

est on top

[carmine junco]

guys im not liking the aops books, are there any videos that teach amc maa/ teach concepts in aops books?

[radiant shoal]

p7dgpgxiopjc8oyc

hows comp math

[viral sierra]

Same

[silver forge]

thats amazing

[elfin lark]

anyone here knows abt ioqm?

[lunar geode]

i know about it

but not much

its computational stuffs iirc

[near hill]

Um, did you clear that with the <@&268886789983436800>?

[fringe prism]

idk

[fringe prism]

same

theyre too tedious

and I’m not patient enough

[carmine junco]

yeah its confusing

the basic one is so bad

[hasty mountain]

Yes

[hasty mountain]

How is IOQM computational? I don't think so it is

[lunar geode]

Its not a proof round

Its just short answers

And easier questions

That qualified as comp imo

[hasty mountain]

Easy for you dude, you can't understand how it's like to be average

[inland totem]

hmmmm

sleep

[inland totem]

hi zelix

[fringe prism]

real

[fringe prism]

hi

[little wraith]

too late

patrick

[inland totem]

ook

[viral sierra]

Hi zelix

[fringe prism]

hi curiousgorilla

[little wraith]

hi brian

[inland totem]

hmmm

[viral sierra]

Halloa hru friend?

[lunar geode]

im saying relatively

compared to INMO

[silver forge]

yeah

why did lil bro take it personally

[thorny tusk]

you don't understand how bad you have to be to be 'average'

[little wraith]

oh

[thorny tusk]

?

[fringe prism]

In math

[fringe prism]

real

[thorny tusk]

yess

[inland totem]

hmmm

[fringe prism]

Hi

[little wraith]

hello

[fringe prism]

hi other friend

[little wraith]

hello unc

[fringe prism]

hi older unc

[little wraith]

i’m like three years younger than you

[fringe prism]

which means - - 3 = +3 = ur 18

jeez we have an adult

[inland totem]

zelix=orz

[little wraith]

i thought u were 16

cuz ‘28

[fringe prism]

my birthday hasn’t passed

[inland totem]

ook

don't diss the orzer like that rina

[severe eagle]

dawfid orz

[inland totem]

All orz

[little wraith]

oh

[viral sierra]

Halloa unc

[fringe prism]

Hi uncer

[viral sierra]

Nah, Im not that old 😭

I’m class of 31

[fringe prism]

SOOO old wtf

[inland totem]

ye zelix

[viral sierra]

You cant be talking

[viral sierra]

Youre like a month more ancient

[fringe prism]

I’m not even that old

I’m under 18

[inland totem]

i'm 2

[silver forge]

unc

[inland totem]

ook

[thorny tusk]

wha

MIT graduate class of 1931?

[viral sierra]

lol

not that ancient

[inland totem]

1932?

[viral sierra]

😭

hs class of 2031 😭

[inland totem]

oh 1831

[silver forge]

unc

[little wraith]

wait what year are u born? 12
or 13

[viral sierra]

13

[zinc ridge]

yeah sooooooo old

[zinc ridge]

im hoping you are born in april or earlier😭

[viral sierra]

ye i was lol

[fringe prism]

me too

[viral sierra]

halloa friend

[fringe prism]

hi friend

[little wraith]

ah okay i’m sept 2012

yunc

[olive haven]

Wait, how are you class of 2030 then if you are in 7th grade??

Right now is ‘class of 2026,’ and if you are in 7th rn, you have 5 more years to go. 2026 + 5 = 2031

[fringe prism]

https://tenor.com/view/mane-im-dead-gif-17125533328470459107

[spark scaffold]

How do u know that I’m class of 26

[olive haven]

What?

I am saying that right now is 2026. The 2025-2026 school year ends this year

[spark scaffold]

Yea

[little wraith]

you’re a senior?

[spark scaffold]

Yes

[little wraith]

https://tenor.com/view/hide-the-pain-harold-harold-pain-hide-meme-gif-7962146957933466373

[little wraith]

oh damn

[fringe prism]

so unc

[zinc ridge]

thats literally my birthday

what grade are you even in

8th?

[fringe prism]

unc grade

[zinc ridge]

atp >5 months old is unc

[fringe prism]

<8th grade = unc

<= 8th grade

[zinc ridge]

what😭:✌️

that makes no sense whatsoever

[fringe prism]

middle school ppl are big

[fringe prism]

i saw that ):

[zinc ridge]

cap

my grade is tiny

except for a few outliers

im 5 4🫠

[fringe prism]

DAM

giant

[zinc ridge]

i have a fruend whose 6 3

[zinc ridge]

im tiny😭

[fringe prism]

5'4 = big

[zinc ridge]

my toe is taller than myself

wait

did i say 5'4"

i meant 4'5"

[fringe prism]

cap

[zinc ridge]

ur probably like 6'7"

arent u in tenth grade?

[fringe prism]

the least unc grade possible

[fringe prism]

0.67

[zinc ridge]

u are not 4'4.7

[little wraith]

dang bro

i’m 171

i legit cannot go anywhere without someone calling me tall

[zinc ridge]

ur tall

[little wraith]

yea i know

my parents r talk too

my moms 179 and my dads 180

[fringe prism]

signs of unc

[zinc ridge]

my dad is an inch taller than me

this is not a good sign

[little wraith]

i am 13

[zinc ridge]

im 889

[little wraith]

how tall are you?

[fringe prism]

sure

[zinc ridge]

read message history

[little wraith]

i’ve legit proved it

[little wraith]

lazy

[zinc ridge]

5 4

[fringe prism]

where

[zinc ridge]

so 162

[little wraith]

there

[fringe prism]

4th grade

[little wraith]

it’s french

it means 8

[fringe prism]

def wrong

prolly 11th grade

[zinc ridge]

i can prove im 13

[zinc ridge]

ik wha a line is

[zinc ridge]

are you french????

[fringe prism]

thats not ur computer

thats ur friends

[little wraith]

i go to a french school

[zinc ridge]

ur tall

[little wraith]

thank you

[zinc ridge]

a tall french school

in a tall french street

in a tall french city

[olive haven]

Hello. This problem here got me stuck as Idk where to start. I don’t want to look at the solution, but may someone please drop a hint?

[zinc ridge]

in a tall french county in a tall french state in a tall french country in a tall french world

[little wraith]

thanks

[olive haven]

That’s pretty tall. Lowkey, don’t know how tall I am. Haven’t checked in a long while

[zinc ridge]

uhm idk how to solve diophantine

but ig

[little wraith]

u should check lol

[zinc ridge]

x and y are interchangeable, meaning the solutions where x and y are different can be paired together bc of symmetry and swapping

[little wraith]

i had to give all my measurements for a sports thing yesterday so everything’s all accurate now

[zinc ridge]

so really, the number of solutions where x=y has to be odd too

[olive haven]

I mean, I am just super braindead rn, so I might just check back in tomorrow and I’ll probably do it. Will appreciate any hints or ideas, though

[zinc ridge]

is that a good hint for part (a)?

i gotta go to bed now

[little wraith]

what state r u?

[zinc ridge]

ok fine ill stay awake for a minute or mybe

[little wraith]

ik mila ks cali right

[zinc ridge]

who

[little wraith]

u

[olive haven]

Lol, I’ll check rn. I have a measuring tape

[zinc ridge]

ohio rahhhhhh

ohiorz

ohiology

[little wraith]

omg i used to live there

what part

[zinc ridge]

k bye if i sleep now ill only get 7 and a half hours

[little wraith]

so you’re also est?

[zinc ridge]

cleveland suburbs

[little wraith]

oh ok

i was in columbus

[zinc ridge]

oh nice

ok now i have to go

bai

[little wraith]

alright goodbye

[olive haven]

I am like 172,75 , basically 173 Ig

I thought I was shorter tbh

[little wraith]

ooo wow you’re also tall

[olive haven]

I haven’t checked my height in such a while, I’ve grown wth

[little wraith]

i grew 17 cm in like nine months 😭

[fringe prism]

uncville

[olive haven]

What 😭 I only had a growth spurt like that when I was like 10

[iron mason]

Hey

Everyone

Can someone suggest me a channel to learn derivatives better

[fallen apex]

#calculus

Or if u want rigour

#real-complex-analysis

[iron mason]

Thanks

[radiant jasper]

i think they meant youtube channel

[radiant jasper]

the best way to learn is to do a bunch of derivatives

just get spivak and stewarts and do all probllems

[radiant shoal]

bprp

[iron mason]

Noted sir

[radiant jasper]

aops if u wanna do comp math

[grim ridge]

guys i have purple comet maths comp tmrw, does anyone have any recommendations for concepts i shld learn or go over. im in year 10 doing gcses, but these question are a level difficulty i think

[little wraith]

looks pretty similar to amc10

[inland totem]

wait purple comet is a math comp

never knew what it was 💔

[olive haven]

Professor Leonard on YT. Not really competition math, but you said derivatives soo for books—any calculus textbook would work. I recommend Seeley’s Calculus of One Variable and Spivak, but any calculus textbook you can get your hands on would do

[grim ridge]

i heard about it 3 weeks ago 🤣

[olive haven]

You heard about it 3 weeks ago and are only now—one day before the competition—starting to study concepts for it?

Or have you already been studying up? What concepts have you went over so far? Did you do some past papers? That’s the best way to prep for any competition

Just do past papers

[grim ridge]

im not really taking this seriously cs we hv kangaroo maths in may

[iron mason]

Any other tutor ...like on yt

[olive haven]

I am not the best person to come to for lectures on YT. On YT I mostly watch physics or ways people solve problems. The only channel I’ve used for calculus on YT is Prof. Leonard, and he’s great imo

Sooo other people can offer some help with that

[iron mason]

That's totally fine

Thank you

[olive haven]

Np))

Oh, also—I’ve watched some calculus videos from Michael Penn. Check him out @iron mason

He has some nice problems

I more watched his proof-writing and nt videos, but I am pretty sure he has a ton on calculus as well

[sturdy knoll]

Js do past papers

And sum amc past papers as well

Idk I’m doing purple comet too and that’s what I’m doing

To be fair I’ve been doing amc related prep for a bit

But I still think it helps

[sturdy knoll]

Khan lwk goated

[thorny tusk]

its the opposite time of the year from amc bruh

[sturdy knoll]

Yeah but I have other math comps

And during thr amc time of the year I don’t have time

Cuz I have a bunch more comps

[thorny tusk]

o

like wha

[olive haven]

Best time to start prepping for the next AMC

[thorny tusk]

it is?

[olive haven]

Well, why not? It’s best to have a lot of time rather than only like one month

I personally don’t like only starting to prep for something a month away

[inland totem]

ye it's never too early to prep

[thorny tusk]

prep for like

aime

[inland totem]

if i prep for aime

[thorny tusk]

cuz its x20 points

[inland totem]

then i'm also prepping for amc technically

[thorny tusk]

r u

[inland totem]

but reading pirated egmo is like prepping for amo

[thorny tusk]

uhh

[olive haven]

So you’re saying AMC doesn’t need almost any prep at all? To get into the AIME you first need to score exceptionally at the AMC

[olive haven]

Technically, Ig

[thorny tusk]

a bit

a few months

before amc

[inland totem]

gaybriela can do well on amc

aime i'm not so sure tho

[thorny tusk]

shush patrick

[olive haven]

Okay well not everyone is at such a level that they can get top scores in the AMC by prepping only like two months

Plus, some people are faster in that regard, some are not

Better to start early than late

[thorny tusk]

ig

[sturdy knoll]

Deca states

No

Deca regionals I think

Model un state conference

Sci oly comps

And I’m gonna be working on shm other projects as well

[fringe prism]

ye

[fringe prism]

gg

[fringe prism]

real

[fringe prism]

just like 100

expectional is 150

(alex tsagaan orz)

[vagrant dragon]

hi

[fringe prism]

ya np

[fringe prism]

np

[fringe prism]

alr cya

[vagrant dragon]

alr cya

[fringe prism]

halloa jmoer gold

[vagrant dragon]

halloa jmoer gold

[inland totem]

hi orzers

[fringe prism]

silver*

[vagrant dragon]

silver*

[fringe prism]

hallao!

[sturdy knoll]

DANNGGGG

you got silver

That’s tuff

[fringe prism]

so untuff

[sturdy knoll]

No that’s tuff

[vagrant dragon]

hi usajmo silver medalist

[fringe prism]

hi MOPper

[inland totem]

zelix is too orz for this

hmmm

[vagrant dragon]

`

[fringe prism]

hi!

[viral sierra]

orzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[sturdy knoll]

Who’s orz bro

[inland totem]

zelix

[viral sierra]

zelix=orz

[little wraith]

hello zelix 👋

[desert fable]

Hello, @mystic hare!

[frank hornet]

orz zelix

[fringe prism]

wha

[plain yew]

does someone mind hopping on help-37 and check my solution

🥹 🙏

[olive haven]

I personally consider even 100+ to be an exceptional score. I don’t even know how to call a score of 150. Just insane

[inland totem]

people who actually get 150 honestly are what i aspire to be

like zelix

[halcyon scaffold]

i got a 150

[inland totem]

which one

[tiny eagle]

I got a 150 on my SAT is that good

[silver forge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/its-time-to-stop-7

[silver forge]

wait

@fringe prism u aced amc?

[inland totem]

prolly did

[silver forge]

tuff

[fringe prism]

maybe

[inland totem]

orz

[fallen apex]

I got a 167

[silver forge]

tuff

plens = ook

orangutan

[fallen apex]

Admits

[inland totem]

ook

[fringe prism]

Hi

[silver forge]

plens is orangutan

plens is in love with orangutan

react to my previous messages if you like wen

[inland totem]

woah

[silver forge]

easy clip

https://klipy.com/gifs/its-time-to-stop-7

alr ts just racist atp

another free clip

[inland totem]

since when was ts race related 💔

[silver forge]

what colour is shaq

[inland totem]

he's black

why?

[near hill]

I don't know if anything here is racist (though anyone who knows better than me can modping or DM ModMail), but it definitely seems to be off-topic for the channel ...

[silver forge]

yes sir

we will go back on topic

[fringe prism]

i like tren

[frosty field]

hey guys generic guy wanting to do amc, how do i prep for this (im in calc ab rn but i have no experience with competition math so im probably weak in stuff like number theory)

is there like some specific resource or website that i should use

[inland totem]

for a website i'd recommend aops

and for books if ur prepping for amc 10 then i recommend u get aops vol 2

[frosty field]

amc 12

[inland totem]

ye vol 2 works for that 2

if u want to work on a specific area then look into the topic specific books

[frosty field]

alr

[viral sierra]

Or awesomemath l1

[thin pumice]

BITC

[thin pumice]

aops trust

[silver forge]

where do i get free aops vol 1 and 2

i really need this

[inland totem]

get free egmo

idk if there's pirated aops out there

[olive haven]

I do not have the money for AoPS books either — sad that there are no free online versions

I sometimes take AoPS textbooks from the library but I need to bring them back within just a few weeks, which does not allow for much learning

[silver forge]

ikr

[silver forge]

what does that stand for

euclid geometry math olympiad

[inland totem]

euclidian geo in mathematical olympiads

written by the goat, evan chen

more useful for learning abt proof-writing skills tbh

[silver forge]

hm

aops has some fun problems my friend said

so i will attempt to borrow it from him

ts expensive asf

[inland totem]

ye

idk how i convinced my parents to buy 4 books 😭

[frosty field]

wish i decided to do amc earlier bc now i only have one shot

oh well ill cook (probably)

[silver forge]

u doin amc10?

[frosty field]

no 12 im going into junior yr next year

[silver forge]

oh ok

[little wraith]

there’s a pirated version online

actually maybe don’t do that

i tried finding one

i’m definitely getting a virus

oh well it’s a school computer

[olive haven]

Yeah no, will not risk my laptop

There’s some really sketchy sites that claim they have math textbook pdfs

[little wraith]

perhaps we just pay the $50

[fringe prism]

no

[fallen apex]

@little wraith @olive haven i have nonvirus copies

if uw ant them

of most common olympiad texts

[near hill]

Friendly reminder that the rules forbid using this server to exchange (or arrange for exchanging) copyright-infringing material.

[fringe prism]

bruh

[little wraith]

dm

oh

never mind

[little wraith]

mb

[fallen apex]

olk

[stiff dock]

does anyone know anything about math kangaroo?? 9-10

im having problems grasping these questions

[sturdy knoll]

Which year

If you have trouble with one in specific

[little wraith]

it’s a big thing in france for some reason so my french math teacher makes us do them weekly

[inland totem]

hmmmm

[quiet belfry]

p np will be our final problem on our tournament trust

[keen oriole]

any resources on olympiad training?

[silver forge]

aops books

they are useful for learning problem solving methods

[minor valve]

yall in school we had a math olypian and i got the top score, there will be another test on sunday how do i perpare

[little wraith]

hello li

[little wraith]

what test is it?

[silver forge]

patrick li

[little wraith]

❤️

[silver forge]

fellow li patrick

https://klipy.com/gifs/squid-game-squid-game-2-25

[little wraith]

@inland totem

[inland totem]

what

i'm enjoying my chinese oreos

that might be expired

[little wraith]

the ones you found in your fridge

…

[silver forge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/chinese-meme-meme-chinese-1

[little wraith]

[minor valve]

olypiad

[silver forge]

im doing olypiad too

[minor valve]

cool

[silver forge]

your pfp looks like kyouya from talentless nana

https://klipy.com/gifs/kyouya-onodera

this guy

[olive haven]

Your math teacher at school teaches olympiad math? What type of school is this 💔

Do you go to some specialized (for math) private school?

[little wraith]

i wish. it’s a private school and idk what’s he doing but he just gives us a kangaroo sheet and has us do it in pairs but no one really takes it seriously

[viral sierra]

At least its better than my old school. I remember doing the amcs in 4th grade, and everyone (but me) did it in pairs (it was official 😭 )

[inland totem]

you can do the amc in pairs?

[viral sierra]

No thats the point

Never took it at my school again

[inland totem]

i've always took it in testing centers

[viral sierra]

Now I only take it at rsm

Except for the amc8 in 5th grade, but that was a lot better

[daring sparrow]

ok

[inland totem]

🦧

[silver forge]

https://klipy.com/gifs/tryan-trying

[olive haven]

The AMCs in 4th grade???? What type of schools do y’all go to wtf 😭

[viral sierra]

I js randomly wanted to do amcs because my sister did them

😭

[olive haven]

Ohh, just as a proctoring place. I thought you meant the school has people take the AMCs in 4th 😭 😭 Nvm

[silver forge]

lmao

[scenic cape]

Hi

[olive haven]

Hello. I wanted to ask: What resources are there (except AoPS) for elementary olympiad combinatorics? I am planning to do the AMC (never taken it before), and I can confidently do around 9-17 problems (depends on the past paper), but I always get stuck with combinatorics questions. I’ve learned some of combinatorics before, but I have really bad gaps in my knowledge

I don’t need a book focusing solely on problems, I have a ton of those, I just want a resource that can explain the topics clearly

[little wraith]

wait did anyone else take course aux nombres

it’s a mental math completions

nine minutes for thirty problems

[olive haven]

Isn’t that French? Or is it something someone can take from another country?

[thorny tusk]

like

what parts of combi

are you stuck on

[olive haven]

Most.. I just need an overall combinatorics textbook, starting from complete basics. I never really formally studied combinatorics, all my knowledge is from “here and there”

[little wraith]

it’s french but it can be taken anywhere i took it in th US

[green carbon]

theres a website someone made called saintly thats pretty good, and it sorts by topic so im pretty sure theres a combinatorics section

https://saintlymath.com/

[olive haven]

Skimmed through it. So far I only see that there are past paper problems. I am looking for something a bit different. I need a textbook or some kind of other resource (ex. lectures on YT) that can explain the topics of combinatorics. I already have a ton of resources with olympiad problems, combinatorics included. But thank you, this might come handy as well

[agile gazelle]

Hi

[halcyon badge]

The Measurement Problem as a Category Error: A Mathematical Proof of Wavefunction Unobservability

This paper is a mathematical proof that wavefunction realism is a category error, with direct implications for how quantum mechanics should be interpreted and tested.
https://zenodo.org/records/19630890

[ivory ember]

bye bye dark matter

[near hill]

Looks very offtopic for this channel.

[fringe prism]

shut up

[vagrant dragon]

Fr

[inland totem]

huh

[olive haven]

Hello 👋

[fringe prism]

real

[vagrant dragon]

Halloa!

[vagrant dragon]

Oi hi

Oi @rare raven

[rare raven]

Hello.

Does anyone know Andy Xu?

[fringe prism]

we all do

he was my partner for gmc

[rare raven]

Give me Andy Xu.

[vagrant dragon]

Does anyone know cliff yang

[fringe prism]

ooo LOL

anyone friends with agasta

[rare raven]

me

[fringe prism]

o nice

LOL

[rare raven]

OOOO SNEAJER

LOL

[vagrant dragon]

Hi

[rare raven]

XDD

[near hill]

Could we move the shitposting to #chill, please?

[rare raven]

real

ok

[rare raven]

r u AI

OOOOO

LOL

[near hill]

Just trying to see if we can handle it civilly without calling in the <@&268886789983436800>.

[rare raven]

bruhh why

nooo

rip sneajer :::(

[fringe prism]

Could you move yourself to the #AI NPC channel, please?

[rare raven]

real

[tawdry furnace]

bc somehow u dismissed someone suggesting u to move to the correct shitpost channel as AI

[rare raven]

no, bc grammar is too AI

proper*

LOL

[rare raven]

LOL SNEAJER

[mighty pine]

ok

[rare raven]

IM NOT TAKING MY SNEAJERS OFF I AM SNEAJERS O'TOOLÉ

[fringe prism]

OoOOOOOO

[vagrant dragon]

LOL

[fluid zephyr]

Anyway, you have been asked to move to #chill keep this channel on topic

[fringe prism]

have u heard of the sneajer series

[fluid zephyr]

That goes for everyone

[tawdry furnace]

toast is muted. next shitpost gets a mute too

[fringe prism]

o sh RIP toast

[fringe prism]

sneajer series

[normal crown]

OOO

Halloa!!!

[vagrant dragon]

SUCH a good question

[fluid zephyr]

Unlucky, come back later

[normal crown]

Yo why'd yall time out zelix

Hes my goat

[near hill]

(This pinged, by the way).

[fluid zephyr]

Again, everyone please go to #discussion or #chill or people will continue to be muted

[tawdry furnace]

will u be the next mute?

[normal crown]

Bruh are there any good math comps in california

[normal crown]

Oh my bad

[near hill]

And that one too.

[inland totem]

u could search on google

[normal crown]

Too lazy 🥀

[inland totem]

but the first one that comes to my mind is berkely math tournament

[inland totem]

🦧

how is a google search that difficult

[normal crown]

Oh shi I've been there

Is it actually prestigious

[vagrant dragon]

Most prestigious one is bkmc

[inland totem]

i'm pretty sure ye

[normal crown]

O shoot

Whats that

[vagrant dragon]

Brian kuria math contest

[inland totem]

hmmmm

[olive haven]

Bay Area Math Olympiad

(BAMO)

[normal crown]

Bruh cooked

Didn’t u win bamo or smth

@vagrant dragon

[vagrant dragon]

Fr

[olive haven]

BAMO is great. I love the problems there

[inland totem]

hmm

they look fun

[olive haven]

I also like the Berkeley Math Circle monthly contest papers

The problems are quite interesting

[proper sigil]

IM NOT TAKING MY SNEAJERS OFF I AM SNEAJERS O'TOOLÉ

[vagrant dragon]

Hi

[proper sigil]

WAITT I KNOW THAT SERIES

IM NOT TAKING MY SNEAJERS OFF I AM SNEAJERS O'TOOLÉ

[inland totem]

begging for a mute atp

[tawdry furnace]

ty take a day off

[normal crown]

Bruh fr

[vagrant dragon]

Gi

Has anyone been to sneajer math tournament

[fluid zephyr]

Not wise, but we can keep going

[silver forge]

lmao

[inland totem]

birdy ur such a comedian

also wasn't that from 2 days ago

[fluid zephyr]

Again, please keep this channel free for on topic discussion. Go to #chill or #discussion to chat

[silver forge]

nor

[silver forge]

Okay sorry

I just do short off topic chat

[fallen apex]

guys go to discord.gg/mods if u want to talk off topic

tbh

[silver forge]

https://tenor.com/view/maçavras1-gif-16101498646883457546

[inland totem]

rina

why

wen

why

[thorny tusk]

jesus what in the math compeitions is this

[inland totem]

so on topic

[silver forge]

its the plen likes wen theorum

[inland totem]

which has been proven false

[silver forge]

When

How

Where are the rigorous proofs

[inland totem]

where is ur rigorous proof

[silver forge]

Naturally exists

[inland totem]

the riemann hypothesis is true because i say so ahh

[silver forge]

Indeed it is true

[silver forge]

React to this if you like wen

[inland totem]

god tier ragebait

[silver forge]

Now i have two rigorous proofs

[inland totem]

alr on topic now

[silver forge]

Yes

[thin pumice]

FU

[thin pumice]

FU

[silver forge]

yo wen that aint nice

also making fanfics without consent is vulgar

[thin pumice]

they aint abt anyone yk anyways

[silver forge]

so then if i murder some random its fine

cuz theyre not someone you know

Ts logic is fire

[thin pumice]

i said you dont know theres thousands of ppl in the world

[silver forge]

its just wrong in general

and kinda weird

[thin pumice]

buddy u dont even know whats happening 😭

[silver forge]

whats happening

and dont buddy me

ok nvm

ts weird asl

https://klipy.com/gifs/its-time-to-stop-7

[daring sparrow]

what the hell happened here

as in stuff before 5:00 pm pst

[silver forge]

lmao

smth definetely happened thats for sure

https://klipy.com/gifs/skull-explode

[silver forge]

First to speak is me on apr 18, 2026

[thorny tusk]

still apr 17 for me

damn tf happened here

[severe eagle]

💀

Am i cooked

[silver forge]

thanks for admitting

[severe eagle]

ye no problem

[silver forge]

sybau

weird ass mf

gtfo u pos

[inland totem]

saying that to the carbonite 💔

[inland totem]

not comp math

[zinc ridge]

why is everybodyvadding gcant to their bio

[inland totem]

idk

[severe eagle]

ye no problem

[inland totem]

hmm

[silver forge]

what

[inland totem]

dw abt it

[thorny tusk]

ts is so tuff

[silver forge]

yeah i wont

idgaf

[silver forge]

fr

[inland totem]

birdy ur so tuff

how do i be like u

[silver forge]

step one

shut up

[inland totem]

omg so tuff

[thorny tusk]

is this ragebait

[inland totem]

he's always ragebaiting

what do u think buh

[silver forge]

i can feel resentment from this

[silver forge]

no bro 😭

he just doesnt have good emotional skills

[inland totem]

uhh

[silver forge]

He cant control his anger

Anger issues

[inland totem]

3/10

for effort ig

[silver forge]

see 💔

i wish he wouldnt get salty over ts

[inland totem]

[silver forge]

plens why u getting mad

its not even bait of the rage

[inland totem]

buh what

[silver forge]

ook

React to my previous message if you like wen

With ook specifically

[inland totem]

bruh

why we dragging

[silver forge]

you fell for it

This is like the fifth time

[inland totem]

i forgor

[silver forge]

React to this if you like wen

[inland totem]

say "React to this if you like wen" if you like men

[silver forge]

no point

i already have many rigorous proofs

[severe eagle]

i was 13 years old once, i get how birdli feels

[inland totem]

what in the comp math

[severe eagle]

feels weird saying that when im 13 now

[inland totem]

too orz to comprehend

[severe eagle]

the thing is, ragebait is fun only when you do it correctly

this just isnt it my guy

have a great day tho

[severe eagle]

[silver forge]

basically you just admitted this isnt fun

so your annoyed

so your being ragebaited correctly

[severe eagle]

im not annoyed, im carbonite

[silver forge]

i think you need to use duolingo

[severe eagle]

nah

im good, thanks

[silver forge]

o

ok

[severe eagle]

have a nice day though

[thorny tusk]

omg ur actually so tuff

[fringe prism]

finally unbanned

[fringe prism]

I have!!!

[viral sierra]

hi zelix

[fringe prism]

hi gorilla

[spark garden]

I guess you didn't listen to the warning. You have some other tickets so we're gonna go with a long mute. Behave better after the mute expires.

[spark garden]

The prev message applies to you as well given that you are continuing the same behavior that caused your last mute.

[little wraith]

wait what did zelix do again

[inland totem]

zelixxx!!

noo

[normal crown]

Rip zelix

[normal crown]

Bruh he replied to the wrong message

I think he meant to reply to the bmt one

Bc we went to bmt together

[spark garden]

You complaining about this is also off topic. Keep it on topic.

[mighty ravine]

dumbass mod

7 day banning for like no reason

js had to put that out there

[inland totem]

bro

u could've done something other than insulting them

[spark garden]

Congrats you get a free mute too. Go figure if users accumulate warnings, tickets and mutes for the same poor behavior we escalate to longer mutes. Wild stuff.

[zinc ridge]

damn so many ppl are muted that the entire channels gone quiet

[dawn path]

ye cuz for some reason someone gave this guy mod

banning for 7 days cuz of some "I have" shit

[inland totem]

zelix u look different

[dawn path]

yea, im tallerl

taller

[inland totem]

but i don't think mute evading is the rigt approach

[dawn path]

im not mute evading

im boredom evading

alr violin time

[thorny tusk]

aw hell naw birdy got muted

and other peoples

damn

[dawn path]

ye, fried moderation

[fluid zephyr]

Ok, just to be clear, anyone who continues to use this channel for off topic conversation will also be muted

[olive haven]

Hi. Asking again, does anyone know any good resources to learn combinatorics topics? Would be preferred if it goes from the complete basics but still has a solid kind-of-olympiad level. I just have gaps in my combinatorics knowledge that I’d like to fill. Thank you!

[fluid zephyr]

You’ve all been more than fairly warned

[inland totem]

what level

[olive haven]

What is even going on here? Is it that hard to keep things on topic? Just go to lounge 🥲

[thorny tusk]

honestly its rly just aops for me

[inland totem]

it's always been like this

[vagrant dragon]

hi

[fluid zephyr]

You might also have some luck in #book-recommendations , I think I’ve seen people talk about the art of problem solving books for things like this, but neither combinatorics or competition maths are really my thing

[thorny tusk]

then theres the books on specific topics

[olive haven]

Sorry, forgot to say “except AoPS”

[thorny tusk]

aw

[inland totem]

nooo

[olive haven]

I am too broke for AoPS books

[olive haven]

Okay, thank you!))

[inland totem]

i think titu andreescu has a book on combi

but idk if it suits u

[olive haven]

I’ll check in there in a bit

[olive haven]

I’ll look into that. Thanks

[vagrant dragon]

halloa!!!!!

[olive haven]

Found a pdf. Quickly skimmed through and it actually looks like something that would fit me. Thank you!

[inland totem]

np

[zinc ridge]

if they made a preuni lounge it would be better

be so fr who wants to hang out with a bunch of adults

[zinc ridge]

theres a lot of university papers and resources explaining certain topics

all u have to do is search it up

although some may be really hard

[thorny tusk]

yess

[inland totem]

hmm

[severe eagle]

[raven oyster]

guys is it normal to take amc 10 in 9th

or should i take 12 or just wait

bc i took a 'mock' amc10 test with a timer on myself and got 23

so should i take 12 next yr?

[raven oyster]

whatd aops do

oh nvm

yea

ver expense

but imo its worth it

kinda

bc it gives u everyth u need

even tho it costs as much as my house

[thorny tusk]

yes

[raven oyster]

okie ty

[olive haven]

Why would it not be normal?? I’d say go for AMC 10

If you’re confident with AMC 10, take AMC 10

[raven oyster]

lol

[olive haven]

But if you want challenge, take AMC 12 yeah

[raven oyster]

ive just never taken amc b4 so idk

[raven oyster]

ty

also im just about to start calc but im in the indian ciricullum so like everything ik is from aops and idk when to start calc, but im familiar with algebra geo combi and NT so should i start calc or wait

for depth

[olive haven]

I mean, it depends on your interests and goals

If olympiads are the goal, you can wait on calculus Ig and focus on olympiads

[raven oyster]

yea

i mean my main focus rn is getting into a good enough college then start learning more math

so olympiads rn are my main focus

[olive haven]

But at the same time, I personally study math for my love and interest for it, and depth is still super important for me, but it’s interesting to go a bit ahead (for example look into calculus)

[raven oyster]

asw as ap courses if i can afford

[raven oyster]

yea same but i feel kinda pushed to go fast so i can take a calc course in 9th

and do some physics bc acc physics is locked behind calc

for the most part

[pallid heath]

high school is like the only time you can focus on olympiads so tbh there's an argument for delaying calc and diving deep into olympiads

[olive haven]

Same. I want to go deep into calculus because I want to go deep into physics, and without calculus that is almost not possible

[pallid heath]

but might only make sense if you're like decently competitive at a national level

[olive haven]

That’s true

[raven oyster]

indias kinda cooked so i am

[pallid heath]

i'm not as familiar with the indian education system, but do you also have to take JEE?

because i thought calc was also part of that

or is that like only for some people

in the US probably most kids strong enough to participate in olympiads just do AP Calc BC in a year anyway since colleges know what it is and it's probably a straight forward class for them in most schools and they can focus on olympiad pre in their own time

[raven oyster]

yea my school is a verified ap test center so im taking ap calc bc

[olive haven]

When? In 9th grade??

[raven oyster]

JEE is this entrance exam for the best indian college(IIT). Basically theres no application u have to send like harvard or anyth, but the entrance exam is hard asf

it has chem physics and math

my dad got 200 all india rank on the exam

(AIR)

out of millions of participants

[raven oyster]

yea

[olive haven]

How 😭 Do you take like a placement test?

[raven oyster]

so no u dont hv to take JEE but most ppl do

[raven oyster]

basically im taking this course for AP calc BC in the summer of this yr for me(im in an international board ciriculum so the summer break is the same as the american one) and then i test for it in like june 2027

or smth like tht

[raven oyster]

the test is scored on 5 but im not familiar either

[raven oyster]

i will take JEE and calc is part of tht for the physics and math sections so im locking in on tht

[pallid heath]

i scrolled up to look at your original question and if you think you'll do really well on the AMC 10 but have never taken either is there any possibility of doing something like 10A and 12B?

[olive haven]

Okay so you’re taking the course at school or outside of school? Because I keep having troubles with schools about this topic. Literally no school that I’ve ever went to could give me a placement test for some reason 😭

[raven oyster]

maybe

[raven oyster]

inside my school

im lucky tht my school teaches

its one of like 20 schools across india tht does

[olive haven]

Well, you’re super lucky your school is so open to that

[raven oyster]

yea ikr

but if ur in the US u can prolly drive to sum school thts like 1 hr away to take a test

https://apstudents.collegeboard.org/ap-around-the-world

[olive haven]

I am in the US, in California, but no school here, unless it’s like Proof school or one of the other bests, wants to give a freaking placement test and place me in the correct math class. At this point I like gave up

[olive haven]

Yeah, makes sense. I’ll probably just take the AP exam without taking the class (you can do that, I think)

[raven oyster]

yes u can

[olive haven]

Probably what I am gonna do

[raven oyster]

im thinking abt taking an aops calc course or the book and then test instead of the course

bc the math teachers at my school r stupid

[olive haven]

I think just taking the exam is pretty convenient

But if you have the ability to, take the course

[raven oyster]

the course overpriced asf

its like 20k INR

thts like

what

[pallid heath]

aops calc would be a good course, it's too bad there are so few schools that use it as an actual textbook for a year long course

[raven oyster]

222USD

[raven oyster]

yea

[pallid heath]

yeah taking any course through aops can be pricy

[olive haven]

I mean the school course

[raven oyster]

rn im reading Calculus made easy by Martin Gardner

it very cheap

[olive haven]

AoPS is expensive

[pallid heath]

thats a good one, i read that in high school and it was nice

[raven oyster]

yea

the school course is 222USD

or smth

idk exchange rates

[olive haven]

Wait what- why

[raven oyster]

but for me thts expensive

[olive haven]

Ohhh

Exchange rates Ig??

[pallid heath]

theres something to be said for having the course on your transcript but then you kinda have to put up with whatever quality your particular institution can offer

[raven oyster]

INR to USD

[raven oyster]

yea

my institution is not very smart

i think ill self teach better

and take the test

[olive haven]

Okay, but at least they allow you to take the course in 9th grade 🥲

[pallid heath]

do you have an option to speed run an online version of a prereq over summer

sometimes schools will give credit for that and then put you in the right class even if they wont recognize anything else

[olive haven]

Like take a course like pre-calculus?

[pallid heath]

like its hard to not put a 9th grader in calc if you take precalc over summer

yeah

just like ask them now if theres any online precalc theyd accept before summer starts

[raven oyster]

my precalc book is the same as an algebra and geo book combined so im not doing it

[pallid heath]

then if you're ready for calc it would be easy to just speedrun it over summer

[raven oyster]

yea

ig

wait u hv to take some precalc stuff to be put in the right class

[pallid heath]

here in the US there's a whole year's class between intermediate algebra/algebra 2 and calc

where you do like trig and complex numbers and stuff

[olive haven]

Like at the school? Maybe I’ll ask. But outside of school, formal courses are super expensive

[pallid heath]

yeah like at whatever school you're going to, ask if there's any online precalcs they would take for credit. some might be affordable?

[raven oyster]

whattt

[pallid heath]

obviously it depends on your situation but if it saves you a whole year something to look into

[raven oyster]

for us in india weve been doing trig for 2 damn years

[pallid heath]

oh yeah here we just cram it all in precalc lol

[raven oyster]

we dont even do calc in our school

[olive haven]

Sure, I’ll try that. I am in an online school (which is not private), so maybe I can even complete some kind of course of theirs on pre-calc

[raven oyster]

nor actual physics

[olive haven]

@pallid heath Thank you!

[olive haven]

Wait but you said you can take calc in 9th??

[pallid heath]

i did something like that and did algebra 2 into precalc online over summer into ap calc the next year

[pallid heath]

that actually sucks

[olive haven]

For real

[raven oyster]

the ap calc course

not in the normal ciricullum

i hate my ciricullum i hv to pay so much for extra stuff

[olive haven]

I mean, calculus here in the US is not usually the normal curriculum either

[raven oyster]

bc my school is stupid

[raven oyster]

yea but at least u hv problem solving and go in depth

our school doesnt teach what a function is

😭

[olive haven]

Okay, that depends on the school

[raven oyster]

good point

[olive haven]

Like the schools I’ve been to were not in depth in any way

[pallid heath]

most schools everywhere arent lol

[olive haven]

Yeah lol

[pallid heath]

but theres just a huge range, especially in the US, so the best ones are great, but the worst can be so so bad lol

[olive haven]

Unless it is some specialized school for math kids

[raven oyster]

but my school is like damn expensive

oh btw i used to live in cali asw then moved

i went to a public school

here im private but thts js useless

i would rather go to sum public school here

[olive haven]

Okay but here in Cali it depends on the region and town

Like in some pretty rich towns, the public schools are way better than private schools in other towns

[raven oyster]

i live in the most tech dense place in india

basically silicon valley of india

in prolly the 2nd most reputed school here

and it sucks

but in cali i get tht

[olive haven]

Well, schools can never give you complete depth. They focus on a ton of students at once and the students are at different levels

[raven oyster]

yea

[olive haven]

You can’t expect a school to teach you olympiad level math. If you want to know math deeply, you have to self-study