#competition-math
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6
hmm
4
i might do it once the test comes out
ofc u will
unc
wat
test name?
fryer
love waterloo
fried egg
bet
hmm
maib like 4 pounds
isn't this an amc10 A problem from 2025?
is bro doing aops at school
also
do we assume the second nut mix is 10 pounds
probably no, as the second amount is fixed based on the info given
tho i haven't even done the q yet 
Hi friend
i am at home
i never thought memorizing factorials form 1-10 would be helpful
It's B!
hmmmm
4c horrible. but I PROMISE U IM RI GHT FOR YKW
lowk ask gemini
everyone else did not get that
what u got
besides me, the almighty aurafarmer
and my classmates ššš
hmmmmm
wen what was ur answer for that
she says nine
ye i alr did it
So?
i got 18
lol
ya
wha
yes
bother ur teacher like no tmrw theyll give in
nah bru
Todays Galios was not bad
this years fgh was kinda easy in general ig
Yeah
love ur pfp lol so prettyyy
ook
Anyone just wrote Euclid
Yes
buddy u got 2c wrong
i mean so did i
exactly
but i finished in 60 min which is like the fastest ive ever did
67
harhar how funny
oh lol
would anyone want to help out with solving some problems that may appear on the los angeles math tournament exam
bett
what grade problems are they
are you in hs rn? you have to have graduated bc test security stuff
im in hs
wuttt
r u like the test supervisor or smth
im sorry š
yes yes founder and host :)
why would you ask for help from ppl on discord
dont younhave sponsors
useless ass sponsors ngl
r u a student
this math contest was made by u right
One man team?
oh god no
150 of us
but still not enough testsolvers bc most ppl are design/marketing/tournament dovelopement LOL
can i do the test
what grades is it for
conceptually 9-12?
harder than bmt, easier than pumac
uhh dm me we can work smth out
thast why they're sample questions LOL
ooh isnt lamt new
yes!
lamt.vercel.app (bc malta has yet to pull through with the la.mt
wow
dude this years fermat was also easy as shi
.
what happened to the five letter rule lol
y we talking about pcf all of a sudden
fgh just happened
me when i got 4/5 part c questions but got a part a question wrong...
ts was traumatic
how many zeroes does 50! have on the end of it?
Try it urself
50x49x48....x2
Whatās an effective way to read Problem Solving Strategies by Engel?
For example, how do I know when to give up on a problem and look at its solution
Or should I leave that problem for the second read
How long should I spend on the examples etc.
there is no x time, it depends
if youre stuck after thinking for a long time it might be better to read the solution or at least part of it and try to work from there or move to a different problem
its more like an exploration than a procedure
Hi guys im like new to this server, could someone pls explain what competition math is?
It's the number of 5's appear in the prime decomposition of 50!
So 12?
well if A.I factor it correctly then yeah
Oh I literally didnt understand any of it, so idk if its correct
It says thats the prime decompositi9n tho
5*2=10, so we count the number of 5 and 2, on the other hand, the number of 2's always > than the number of 5's in the prime decomposition
so just count 5
Uh
Im kinda dumb so I literally didnt understand anything u js said
well see, multiply a number by 10 add a zero to the end of that number
,calc 143*10
Result:
1430
Okok
I understand that
yeah so,the number of 10's in the prime decomposition of a number is also the number of 0's at the end of that number
and 10=5*2
Ohhhhg
Whered that come from tho
uhhh what
like how would I count the number of 5's and 2's ?
No like how does it correlate with the 50! Question
well 50! is number, so it follows the same rule I just said
Oh uhhhh
But the photo i took says 12
10 no equal 12
Mb bro u dont needa explain it to me i dont think ill get itš
harharhar
how bru
hmmmm

What's happening to this channel bruh
idfk
What grade ru
for any number the number of zeroes it has at the end is the number of powers of 10 it has, but 10=5*2 so you count the 5s and the 2s and try to make as many 10s as you can. this is the minimum of the number of 5s and the number of 2s but since 5>2 it is always just the number of powers of 5 in the number. for 50! that is 10+2=12
Gimme sum questions pls
y
do an imo set
imo set?

What's it
Where we can get imo set
its my homework but i alr did it so its ok
Also isn't imo = i my opinion
also do thiss
hmm

wut
I'll try once my finish science assignment
o ok
do u js draw or sum

provide how to draw it with only compass and a straightedge of zero thickness
and prove it works
ok bro
what kind of homework is ts
construction
construction
ook

hmm
Wait wait why'd u do 10+2 at the end. Is it bc 5 is the bigger one and will be the answer?
Ohhhh, wait thats what competition math is
How r u guys doing imoš
who did it
tufff
usually takes an hour for imo for even pros
isn't it 6hrs for 6 questions?
no cuz 50/5 =10 and 10/5=2. its like a trick, you'll prolly learn it
hmm
I feel liek its 9, because jmo is 9 hr
how to get into jmo again
do good on amc rihg
do good on amc 10, then do decent on aime
~~ Ask zelix ~~ Its just qual aime, and then be orz on the aime
did u make jmo
zelix=orz
no sadly
I hope i get aime
i missed amc 10 registration date
wait can canadians do aime
uhh i think so
At the start of ts yr i was lazy
but i gotta go to america?
no
u can take in canada
he did very well
js at local uni or somethn
shut up
what did rbo get?
dms then
same
wat
hehe
dw abt it
agh i dont give permission
mhm
š
did he tell u
idk
sme lol
i love how i can solve 2021 fall amc 10b #23 with ramsey theory
sme lol
Halloa friend!
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hru friend?
Halloa!
good wbu friend
Halloa friend
good. ty for asking friend
Thatās nice, np friend
this looks like it's begging me to bash it
comp math stresses me out
i prefer higher maths
but iām gonna force my self to like it
i wanna imo qual š
same
fax
most imo quals start training math very young
What Ramsey theory
Hi. I am either braindead rn or I might be missing something, but what does this problem even want from me? I am having a hard time understanding how to start and where to start
Yeah. Kinda a shame. I would love to participate but Iāve started seriously studying maths pretty late
Its not too late
Im just saying it would be very difficult to catch back up to their level
The more problems you do, the more patterns you recognize
they probably have seen it all
at the end of the day, not everyones made for being an imo participant
I donāt understand how people start studying serious/competition maths so early. Is it just parents like forcing them? I was always interested in learning physics or maths but i only really realized the extent of that interest and started taking action just a bit ago
Well, of course. Iāve looked at IMO problems and theyāre pretty hardcore lol. But maybe if I study really intensely for 4 years straight, maybe
But at the same time, I donāt want to burn out and kind of start seeing maths in some stressful light. I just love it for what it is and prizes and competitions donāt really matter much anyway
its js a ton of similar triangles
This is interesting. Might try it
just enjoy it as it is
no need to stress out
going to try this later
Yeah but the interest fades away after we go further into it
Not true
People have different opinions
I find higher mathematics more intriguing then the math i do in school
My opinions are mostly based around where I come from and the peoples Iām with.
I do find it interesting . And specifically thanks to 3b1b who have been very helpful for learning complex things easily.
POV everyone
canāt even mop
Are you talking about people who were basically raised doing maths competitions?
me!
What are some math competitions
Does anyone
I'd say parents forcing is not a really big reason why people pursue comp maths, most of the people i know just happend to be very good at it first and got supportive environment for them to pursue comp maths
It also depends on your goal, if youre going for regional, national or international then the younger youll have to start, but even if you tried hard, it doesnt mean that you will succeed, you'll have to make alot of right decisions consecutively
im outside bro
Fine =
Yeah kinda surrounded by them . I mean they are on sort of rat race. But I like math as a field to ponder and find new things myself rather than learning the same sequential āhow to aceā stuff.
Yeah mostly itās not the parentās pressure but rather the personās own goal of beating others. Many have minded of getting ahead from all else. Itās good if we have a healthy mindset but the line is fuzzy between what level of getting ahead mindset is healthy and unhealthy.

Yeah. I donāt like seeing maths as some race. Itās beautiful as a kind of puzzle to ponder about
Makes sense
Thatās what I thought, yeah
Math competitions are basically races
Doing pure math is not a race
Its like a puzzle/question waiting to be solved
I personally love competition maths where questions are proof-like and creative. Thatās my thing. Iāve never really liked most questions like the first in AMC. Right now, I love looking at and trying to solve questions from the BAMO (Bay Area Maths Olympiad) and USEMO. If anyone knows anymore olympiads like that, please tell me. I just love doing the problems lol
Do the fryer galois hypatia contests from waterloo
True. I think some olympiads sometimes test speed more than mathematical ability
They are full solutions
Iāll check it out tyy
When i do multiple choice math contests
I dont need to prove anything
I just bs it
No logical proof
@silver forge which one of fgh did u write
Well, thatās what I donāt really like in some maths contests. I love maths for its intricate proofs
epic
math contests and pure maths differ a lot
math contests test speed reasoning and logic
Almost always yes
Not always, but yes
pure maths is basically pushing the boundaries of math
Mhm
Yeah, some give like no time at all lowkey š I am not the fastest thinker, so I am still quite amazed how people train so much to be able to have lightning-quick reasoning like that
another interesting thing
Most math contest pros will be good at pure maths
But not all pure maths pros will be good at math contests
Or is that just my opinion
hi
Iād say a āpure maths proā would be able to solve competition maths for school students
good
Yap
speed and time could be an issue
pure maths people focus on one area and don't really care too much about the others i think, and math comps are kinda pre-uni curriculum stuff but cover everything
True. But most of the big olympiads are more proof-based and give decent time
so pure maths are gonna be rly good at some things
Okay, but they would know at least some pre-uni curriculum if they are able to study topology at uni, no?
what grade r u agn
arnt u hella young
idk depends
and u doing amc stuff
yea bro im 2
no like actually
i did aime, cmo, galois, euclid
grade 7
Hell no no way u did euclid
yea
alberta delayed spring break
so im doing it one week late
mb
its apr 7 for me; i dont think it counts for this province now cuz the test is out or somethn idk
no grade seven is doing good on euclid
i got 90 on my last mock test
im in canada's national mo bro
youngest qual this year
Shi
What is this
next yr i will
This years Euclid was not as hard as last years imo
rlly?
Fr, especially the last one
Aime 10 difficulty
halloa
halloa!
halloa!
hru friend?
good wbu
good. ty for asking friend!

hi
flexing at its finest
np friend
orz
š§
hi!
wow so orzzz
:orz:
hi zelix
hmm
hi, I just realized this and so I came up with a fun fact of the day: Today can be a Pythagorean Triple Day, since if we write today's date as: day/month/day of the week, we get ā 3/4/5 which is true! wow.
hmmm
i live in america
month/day/year is best trust
it was js a joke lol
ik
yea
naw ur more orz š
hmm
awake i see
Hi friend
still orz
hmm
its 5pm
maple syrup time
racism
wha
reall
its 5 for me
seems like it's 2 hrs behind
seems like ur autistic
bc is 3h behind on and hes in between bc and on
in between
?
are bc and on the only names yk or somethn
british columbia and ontario
*you're
oh wait ur canadian too
autistic
who
underage child prepect ur elders
ya? im pretty sure bc is the west coast and on is close to east so ab is in between there
you
u js realized?
yea
nvm
whoa
no forgot for a sec lol
hmm
bad boy
š
hehe
you made plens sad
waaa
poor plens
hmm
wb mee
his father revealed his condition when he least expected it
huh
fahhh
ew something related to social studies
hmm
u still take social studies??
it's not required?
its not rquired?
we dont have it anymore lemme show my scedule
10 periods š
hmmm
wait a 20 min break might be worth it for 9 periods
what???
Can we plug is -1 and check
my brother has 8 periods 40min break...
same same
jeez
yea
u have to split cases
Positive and negative
geo problems 
Someone said itās from AMC10
U know whatās it stands for
wait thats this year's euclid?
why so repetitive? day 2 looks depressing cuz of health lol but niceee
bro day 2 is goated
we have first 2 periods in the same room and then math, health, band, pe are all basically fun classes
in health u socialize idk
and in math you play video games
why 5 diff days of cycling classes
wait
yea bro
its better
y do those teachers just sound smart
is same room not boring? oh u might have better teachers
oh lol
UHHHHHH
"darling i think you can self learn this"
you get to use more of the break
oh true truwee
wait does canada use synergy
?
ur teachers?
oh my schedule's so tuff
how yk we have russian teachers?
every day???
don't ask
it's boring tbh
i didn't choose that i swear
visual studio???
it's js art class
o
with a fancy name
bruh imagine taking art
me no like instruments
well most teachers cant teach others are room decor and the rest hates us
ya and panina
which instrument do u play?
in band?
noice
ya
guess
flute
ms isenbergs chill. if u go up in gc u will see many days of richard and i crashing out at ms panina
ooo tech
trumpey?
ew
trumpet
ew
percussion?
IN BAND???
wtf
sax???
naw
idk band kids bro
i was gonna do taht
tuba
oooh noiceee
french horn
baritone?
ew
we dont have that
wait no baritone is js euphonium
no
no
huh???
autistic
we have euphoniums but i dont play it
oh noiceee
i play guitar but not in fucking band class bro
guitar outside of school
hmm
hmmmm
mhm
reported
nobody
ok yea wen i play tuba
pengugugaga
I SAID THAT BUH
a big baritone trombones diff
ts is why i don't do music
too much stuff
yeah
yeaaa
u did?
hmm
LOL
big trombone but flipped facing up and valves
It is
@fringe prism halloa
hi fellow friend
hi friend
how was mop last yr
huhhh theres a mop guy here??
hes the ultimate orz
i look up to him
(im totally gonna mop)
woww
zelix=orz
yes
x+1=x, prove x=x+1
because x=x+1, x=x+1
lol
i mean make x=x+1 true,
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maybe in boolean algebra
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tf is a scoring of six mean
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i see
Well neo
math comps are different from school maths
not too different
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They are a bit more complex
and advanced stuff too
they add sequences
combinatorics
but its all high school level stuff
they dont add new concepts
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Creative thinking
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||expand everything and factorise trust||
||time to use graspable math||
/hjjj
oh i just realised its in integers so it just became a lot easier
:LMAO:
is it ||x,y=3||
hmmm
orz
comp math is really scary
Not if you familiarize yourself with it
Its scary if you put in no effort
Practice a bit and it becomes a lot less scary
hmm ok
Canāt we assume that x+y has to equal to some multiple of 3?
Isnāt it uh
(-1,1) (1,-1) and (3,3)
Idk how to spoiler it
DOOOO THEEE PASSSTTTT CONTESSTTSSS
yeah but idk the content to learn
have u done amc before
theres not much to learn
as long as your school curriculm math is good u shud be fine
no extra knowledge needed tbh
sometimes it pays off to know some fancy theorems tho
Indeed
And some tricks
Like gauss summation for sequences
ye
very useful in math contests i apply it in almost all of my contests at least once
depends on where
my school still learning fractions or some shi
and im in accelerated program 
Mine sucks bro
lmao
Then prelearn
I dowloaded some textbooks that im using to prelearn
Thatās what Iām doing
Ok
hmm
hmm

plens
huh
idk
linear equations
isnt that like 7th grade
Canada has bad curriculm
Prob seventh grade for all other countries
nah 7th grade here is multiplying fractions
how th did canada get an imo perf idk
hmmm
ig there's js a big difference between the top people and the middle/below avg
hmm
yeah true
yea
hmmm
nah
ah alr
š
why are we gaslighting
so its cap?
yeah
school won't help you (almost) at all with comp math
also amc10
or 8
or 12
which one?
Lol
12 bc i jus turned 16
it's more the school curriculum doesn't go as in depth as comp math requires
so yeah im considered 12th
im doing fmath idk if it helps
uhh idrk what that is
ok then DEFINETELY school will not help
even if it covers the content (which it probably won't schools' usually don't cover conics and geo) you still have to learn to be creative and to have the ability to solve problems that you hav enot seen ebfore
hmm
tell what it is
so what do i do to prepare?
ye maybe buy aops books if u haven't alr
maybe do practice tests
(i'm an aops glazer ik)
to see whaty ou can solve rn
yeah though I agree
volume 1
*2
- precalc + inter books
ye
alr
like these are the q they ask in fmath
like previous year qp?
nah looks hard
is it olympiad level?
uhh more higher math level
so is it MAA level
bc i think i need to complete this first
before starting to do competitions
i don't think the majority of maa comps test u at this level
it's more critical thinking than anything
oh so its not this deep?
and more logical
i haven't done those problems yet so i can't say
do i study for further math and for AMC side by side or do i do fmath then start AMC?
u can do both if ur motivated enough
do more comp based math if u are more focused on that
and vice versa
alr
btw do u have a softcopy
ill get a hardcopy
after like 2wks
alr
does amc online version have a disadvantage?
bc im currently not in the usa rn
ok
hello! i am currently in 10th grade, and plan to take the amc 12 this year (as an 11th grader)
so far in my amc10 attempts i havent done too well, and i think thats because of my lack of studying
so i came here to ask for a good guide on how to study for the amc 12
ik its pretty different than the amc 10 so i wanna know what to study, how to study, and how to prepare overall
i appreciate any help
hmm
Helloa friend
i was taught that online contest taking make ur results not that credible bcuz its easier to cheat, but honestly amc a) alr has too much cheaters b) maa doesnt keep track of where u take it i think

hmm
Do you need help with math?
Yes , but I am master level
'master'
Thats literally an infant
Why are you harassing an illiterate being
*pending postgrad
How low can one stoop
yes plz
too orz
Now orz is considered average 
I can help with brawl stars
tree diagram?
for visualization
im helping someone with their math so tree diagram is good for them
that takes too long.
k
that NOT me
Did you read what i said
hehehehehe
yea but like at least use a six dimensional box model
Thats unnecessary
Now your overcomplicating it
hmm
...
not for some younger students
yea im joking
how young
same
grade is basically age
exactly
miku enjoyer
use ||sin(t)=cos(Ļ/2-t) and cos(t)=sin(Ļ/2-t)||?
uhh i got ||n=1 mod 4||
so ||250||?
yaey
maybe 15-20 on amc
i could see it being 1-6 on aime ig
prolly jmo p6
hi zelix
zelix is too orz for jmo
hmmm
No @fringe prism is too orz for usamo. Instead, he shall go to imo
no, but zelix is
never!
What are some of the best Math competitions for undergraduate students(other than the Putnam)? Couldnāt find any lists online
the putnam
crzy
then -4a-4b?
hmmhm
ok
wait no calculus?
damn
isnt it there in high school math?
not even for final year?
no its not in math comps cuz u learn calculus in the later years of high school and many many math comp students haven't learnt it yet, so it will be a disadvantage. thats why the actual problems don't involve advanced topics; even in IMO. though the solutions can use anything, linear algebra, muirhead's theorem, calculus
i think
it is
yea
the introduction to calculus is a high school topic, regardless of how rigourous it is
in my school its grade 8
isnt this convo about y it isnt in math olys not why it sucks
š
yea but u learn some of it
tho that doesnt fcking matter in this convo
wait dont u guys have AP precalc and calc?
im canadian
bro.. im talking abt MAA AMC which is for americans
š„¶
huh
idk who im helping atp
wt abt calc
yea
the majority of math comp students haven't fully mastered any part of calculus yet, put it this way
...
.
i said 'haven't'...
is this level of trig enough
yea
or do i need to learn more
where the asians at
gng i thought this was #competition-math , wheres the competition part
AMC
MAA
12 bc i just completed 10th

