#competition-math
1 messages · Page 58 of 1
that's good
first time where zelix isn't the unc
and the channel's alive again 🥹
0th time
XD
wait what did u get
oh shit i didn't see the "same" 
bro sillied the message history
ear XD*
guys wr should all incorporate the term "sillies" into our daily word choice
i alr do
wat do you guys do when you get bored
violin
sleep
go on phone
tiktok
or math
@daring sparrow join intermediate c and p classroom rn
bruh its fun tho
but ur using aops for stuff besides forums reading
that's commendable
ooo nice
I’m an oka violinist
One day I will finish learning Sibelius vc


When I’m bored I do more problems
Or practice
bruh sibelius so rubbish
paganini > sibelius
Have u played it
ye
zelix prove urself
ts taking like 50 yrs 🥀
What other major concertos have u played
mendellsohn, pag 1
i dont rlly play concertos
js solo pieces
Full or movements
movements
Boring
Why do ppl only ever learn movements
Like u already learnt 1/3 learn the rest
nah cuz theyre not fun
yea thats the one i know
and that one too
First and second together
O: i made 4 i think p 2,3,5,8
NO idea what the 2nd movement is
js play like ysaye solos and pag solos = most fun ever
RIPP
Ysaye3 is fun
Ysaye4 is too
Ysaye6 I’m never learning
Ysaye2 I’m learning
bruh thats what im doing rn
most fun one
SOO fun
I have projects
sus
fr
hmm
LOL
college math
what site or sum
top 10 integrals gauss was afraid to solve
bro aops 💀
no
alr grass touching time
ok bro actually wtf is that
fah
*snow touching
solve it
idk. 2?
wait i js remembered today is the last day to revive my broken hard derivative streak

.
aww i want school to be cancelled bc of daylight savings
u skip school today?
not skip, canceled
💀
Luckyyyy
frr
4, split to 4 4 4 1, compare first group to second, first group to third, and once you find the one that weighs differently, you compare 2 coins from weird group with 2 coins from a group that weighed normally and then you go to the other 2 which weighed weirdly and then scale against a coin that is normal if it is equal its the other one, if its not its that one
wait it cant be 4
think about this
wait nvm im dumb 💀
3^4 = 81 > 26 lol
is there a solution with 3 comparisons tho? i think it may be possible since 27 > 26 
kenuienly?
it's impossible to find the counterfeit in 2 moves since 9 < 13
you need at least 3 moves to find the counterfeit
is there any way to get extra info though
measure 12 of them, then measure 1. now you know the weight of 1. yay.
ok what am i talking about
bye im going to bed
buh
what is this math lol this doesnt mean anything??
true minimum is 2
Like yes , I do believe that.
can’t we go to 1000 and then all the way down
for each measure there's 3 different outcomes
if we do 4 measures we can have (at most) 3^4 = 81 outcomes
most likely we'll have less though
Wtf
wdym
How
there are technically 2 solutions, or more
you can weigh 8 coins first, or 10
or 6
many degrees of freedom
even 4
oh I didn;t read the last part
huh
I guess it's still 3?
weigh 8 coins
then any 4
no hm
This probably isn't what it wants, but with luck you could weigh 6 on one side and 6 on the other, and If they are identical than the remaining one is the counterfeit. I assume they mean minimum with no luck required lol.
If one of the 2 groups is lighter than the other, you take that group of 6 and separate it to 2 3's, separate those 3 to 2 1's, maybe my logic's off but yeah, im just thinking about it.
(Haven't read other people's yet, this is just my own first thought)
I uh dont know how professional im supposed to be here
I think it's not 3
I'm pretty sure it's 4
like this yeah
but there are many ways again
i agree 6 6 1 seems optimal actually
like it's still 4 at worst, but it feels quicker somehow
weight 6vs6 coins. If they come out even you know the last coin left is the counterfeit. Then simply replace one coin with counterfeit and see if it’s lighter or heavier
extremely lucky scenario obviously
but it is the true minimum
its asking for worse case time complexity
you guys know there’s a ted ed on this problem
you can literally watch the solution
View full lesson: http://ed.ted.com/lessons/can-you-solve-the-counterfeit-coin-riddle-jennifer-lu
You’re the realm’s greatest mathematician, but ever since you criticized the Emperor’s tax laws, you’ve been locked in the dungeon. Luckily for you, one of the Emperor’s governors has been convicted of paying his taxes with a counterfeit ...
ye i've watched this
Obscure ted ed videos are also goated
it almost works
we can find the fake coin, but we don't always know if it's heavier
Wait you’re right
Dang i should’ve watched my own video bruh
so is it one more then?
i mean if you extend it to 13
in the video the type is also determined i think
what if we do 5 5 3
so step 2 becomes ++000 <> --+++
then +0 <> -+
incredible if it works
Wait will you please explain this notation
what does 5 5 3 mean?
(Also is it just one heavier coin?)
step 1 is you weigh 10 coins, and mark +++++ and -----
and then you mix them
++000 > --+++ means it's one of ++ or --
++000 = --+++ means it's one of --- we didn't weigh
++000 < --+++ means it's in the +++
There’s probably a way to simulate this in python, can’t be that many ways it can end up to be honest
no idea how would you do that
Hmm probably based on permutations of 10
so we just need to figure out the first case ++--
which is kinda peanuts to a normal computer
Assuming 11! for adding which one is biased, 39916800 is 11! which would be insane by hand but probably could be done
Do you know how to code
I mean i do
Could verify this in ~15-20 minutes
!
Will be back with simulation results
@pallid dragon Small clarification, can coin be heavier or lighter? Or only one of them?
it can be either, and we need to figure out that part as well
interesting
so what’s the weighing order again?
have finished basic structur of program
i'm angery don;t talk to me
sus your account was created in 2022 
did someone else own it
like your older sibling
buh it's against discord tos to be under 13 at any time of your account 
doing apmo at 13 is beyond orz
whats apmo anyway
😭 😭 😭
I wish
q 1 2 3 4 5 is
imo q 1 1.5 2 2.5 3

what you aops
handle
me frind you 🙂
please @severe eagle i need this
my aops is kinda friendless 🙏

like every other person who lives in this channel has an aops acc
like me
@HacheB2031 those who know
it's in ur bio
no it isnt
hmmmmmm
Psychohexane
thx mr orz

top 10 things meltpa has sent me 🤤
i love stalking random people on aops
i said random bruh
do you stalk me?
idek who u are
good
sob bio
my bio is tuff
@AlgowheelAZ1 on aops

if he's dumb enough to leak his personal info i'm honestly not surprised he's a numbskull
sometimes
combo is hardest ngl
but usually not i think
depends on your difficulty
combi is my weakness
whats your aops handle
js dont do precalc or interm alg on insanely hard diff
hard=good
idk
WAIT IS THERE CALC ON ALCUMUS
i have aops acc
i think i friended u like a few months ago
the one with the name
are we deadass
yes we are
wait @high surge sus
oh it's him
wait why does it say ur a likely spammer 
oh u know a bunch of my friends
i do??
idk rbo 😭
mutuals
oh ok
hmmmmm
bro they rejected my appeal for some reason.
mark as read
i wasn't even spamming
why?
why tf r u asking me??
they usually give u a reason
they said for spmming rbo
idk what u want me to tell u
no they did NOT give a reason other than that
same 😭
yo stop leaking ts
hi friend
hi other friend
wdym
alcumus is easy
combos still manageable
its the hardest in alcumus tho
aops=goat 🙂
but yeah I agree, combo's def the hardest
I need to lock in for combo and nt b4 mk lol
bruh rip imo
arent u an aops spammer
sus
Yea he’s xtimmy

Btw can I share my maths channel here(channel not on dc)
🤣 xtimmyg is fire tho
Nah, idk why I’m marked as spam on discord, I don’t have that many posts on aops tho
huh
combo is fun tbh
not as fun as alg or geo tho
oh i barely touch aops to make posts
NT anti main?
noooooooo. nt is the best!!
yess
also yess
its my opinion but algebra is the hardest. Mostly because its the least bashable out of all oly topics
because there isnt always a dumb way to do it
HOW do you bash nt bro
random modular arith and then pray smth works
Oh dear god
modular arithmetic is fun ig
I’m bad at geo
hmm
NT is goat bro what y’all on
same, but even worse at algebra.
Yo it’s so easy though
I could lowkey do imo nt
but i can’t even do aime geo 💀
cuz lots of people are good at it
hmmm
same bro
it's a lot of drawing i'll admit
💀
sure
admitting ur old for once?
Guys use the : mods : emote
ur unc
i'm middle aged
the car guy is teenager
mmm
toddler
no 
which is a litteral unc
ur ashes bruh
😭
ur a toddler bro
no i'm not
Everyone here is young compared to me
some mf gon say discord tos btw 😂✌️
Unccccc
But you’re still more ancient
EXCUSE ME TODDLER
At your age, how bad is the back pain? Can you walk? Do you need a walker? What do your grandchildren call you? How was it like in the 1920s?
dont bring my bsf into ts
HEYYYY
ur her grandchild i'd assume
Also, how was it living with dinosaurs? How was it experiencing their extinction?
ur my grandchilds boyfriend? whens the marriage my dears?
Imagine having grandchildren
imagine bullying ur gma with ur bf?? (jk jk)
IM JK
Grandma from which side?
that side
idk bro
Btw, you may have died last year then…
OOH CAN I HAVE ALL THE INHERITANCE
sry for ur loss rip 💔
yes
yo is that jake irl
uh jake likes felicia and no. i can show u a pic
ummm concerning. i promise u he doesnt look like that
yes he does
zachy was tuff
gc
no he was not
yes he was
no he wasnt
he never even talked js muted the gc and never opened it
which is tuff
which is not and pls dont tell the gc ts
yall know each other irl?
no. i only know felicia and richard
is patrick not aisan? like ur status
lmao smart
also spell asian right
well excuse me then im sry
nah some1 else spelled it assain
and assassin
and rice
CRAZY WTH
'these rices are very smart'
🍚
are we deadass 🥹✌️
these rice is crazy 😭😭😭 ig were all rice now
bro its an honour to be rice
stop fucking swearing
saying "stop __ swearing" and also swearing in the same message is crzy
you can say "fuck" mf 🙏
no i was emphasizing on the 'stop swearing'
o wow
acting like it ISN'T you 🙏
Ok bro, says u
wthhh
same but @tacit prism introduced it to our gc 💔
rbuh you fucking know him
what
💀
oh shi
small small world
GVH tag too
omg
fahhh
deadass buh
wait is patrick deadass same school 💀
who
yeah
the one in ur bio
wait htis is actually carzy
if i had a nickel
for every person
that nadat knew
then you have 5 cent
15?
dumbass
who r u
wait do you go to gvh io 💀
yes
or did you
lemme guess
leak his name again 🔥
jk
what
do you have aops account
whats ur user
friejd me
how
username shaodavin
What do you guys know about the waterloo hypathia math contest? More specifically whats a good way to prep for the contest. My goal is to score top 5-10%
dam another patrick
which ones that again
practice somethn hard or somethn
the one below hypatia
the last one I wrote I was in grade 8
so at least 3 years ago 😭
hm
XD
hi zelix
@ornate citrus is this real?
@ornate citrus
Do math olympiads usually allow Desargues' Involution Theorem?
@ornate citrus put this message in a bikini
Me when DDIT
How do y'all prepare for comps?
I'm having one tmr, quite a big one
Not like the biggest, but still national level
And i'm kinda nervous
don't do too much
just do a light study/refresh before bed and pray you have an epiphany the same night
it works
if its tomorrow just get some rest
solve maybe a few problems but not too much time spent
yea
anytime, and goodluck on your comp!
Thank you
What was your sol, ||Desargues on FNQ and PLE?||
do past tests and find patterns and guess which topics will be on the exam. continuously fo math. pray to god
Oh this test is unpredictable, it only has 2 topics each year
And each topic will be on its seperate day, 3 hours for each day
I'm hoping for G and C
I'm not as confident in A, and my weakest part is N
oh then good luckkkk hope u do well
I really pray the test will be about a topic I know well
Hi
gl
also can i ask what the name of this comp is?
hi
hi
ts does NOT go in competition math 😭
Also, the fact that this was put into the comp math server makes me think that this person may not know what he is talking about
(A)maz(I)ng
hallo
hello friend
halloa friend!
<@&268886789983436800>
How is life?
Good
Every day i search here for some number theory problems but it's always empty this chat
Who is the master of goon?
Read mont. It has good problems
Ok thanks
look at the math olympiad server
they have some good problems
How can I get in?
like you did with this server
Ok thanks
no, i noted ||aipq collinear|| and ||reflection about line ai||
Oh i overcomplicated that lol 
Where was that question from?
Final Korea MO q4
forgot which yesr
i think 2021 or smth
Hey guys. Can anyone teach me math competition?
Hallo friend
a competition math teacher can
wow!
basically you need to solve the problem .
on rral
wow
those who solve the problem and get it right 💀
So basically you just make imo and the rest will come easily
yeah 🔥
Those who goon to Evan Chen 💀
LOl
Damn I'm kinda cooked
I think i got around 9/35
Brutal test
There were multiple cameras and mics in the room, literally tens of people watching me both offline and online
I'll roughly translate the questions and share here I guess
No, i'm from Vietnam
It's a national-level comp organized by Vietnam's Mathethematics Society (a big organization of Vietnam's best mathematicians)
It has one for highschool and one for university
I'm in highschool
is it for imo team
RIP
coool
No this is seperate from the TST
ChatGPT seems so bad at translating math terms, i guess i will have to translate this myself
o ok
O
The problems in A were easy but I couldn't solve much more than that
3hrs of time in total, so 18min/question on average if you wanna complete the whole thing.
I couldn't correctly recall Hermite's identity, which would have been useful I think
Problem 9 seems to be Wythoff's game of Nim
Please do not trust ChatGPT or similar AI tools for mathematical tasks, as they often generate output which "sounds correct" but has numerous factual or logical errors. Use of these AI tools to answer other people's help questions is strictly against server rules (see #rules).
Yeah I figured after trying, I translated all the questions above by myself
what is this
which year imosl
2024
does anyone know how a non base 10 number would work
like what would 125 be in base 6
hope this helps
i saw a similar problem regarding this
but it was for a maximum
it ended up as sums of 2 and 3
let me think
<@&268886789983436800> this generous man is going to destroy the ecoonomy
this is my work
simplest would be base 8, 2, 16. but the place values go from right to left from 6^0 to 6^1 etc.... so go up until you find the smallest value less than 125, then see how many "fits" there and such... and you can use this general strat for base anything
hmm
Hello! Can someone advise me upon how to prepare for math olympiad? Like should I get some samples and try solving them and if I dont know how to solve the exercises do I ask an AI for an idea upon solving the exercise?
Or do I firstly search up what i need to study and then read documentaries and then solve easier exercises first?
I’m a bit Struggling, can someone explain this to me * video * 
solve them problems
also
Please do not trust ChatGPT or similar AI tools for mathematical tasks, as they often generate output which "sounds correct" but has numerous factual or logical errors. Use of these AI tools to answer other people's help questions is strictly against server rules (see #rules).
30-60-90 tringle
hmm
hello friend
hallo!!!
can sm1 help me with this g8 contest question? i keep getting 96 and theres smth wrong
only a is possible but thats obv wrong
Um
Question might be wrong..
question is wrong
OOL
ok tysmmm
exactly, unless they accidentally put 360 degrees as sum or else its wrong. which is wrong
LOL
wat.
hmm
hi
Hallo
happy π day! 🙂
XD
halloa
hallo
hallo friend
3.1415926535897932384626433832795028841971...
hiya
hi
hi friend
hallo
halloa!
happy pi day
Hmm
3.141592653589793238462643383279502884197169399375105820974944 thats all i remember
hmm
what is a reasonable rank/score to aim for on putnam during my freshman year? my only experience is 2x aime qual, vector calc, and studying real analysis rn
doing real analysis at this age is insane - maybe like a 10-20
idk i feel kind of behind in math
i feel like just starting real analysis as a high school senior might actually hurt me
maybe a 112 score
and ive heard horror stories of ppl who did rlly well in high school comps not getting 10
try aiminf for that
💀
get a 120
lowk if i go into solitary confinement
and do nothing but study 24 hours a day for the next 4 years
hmmm
lol I only know 3.14159265358979323846264338327950288...
just break the system and get a 200
In general, don't really worry abt rank/score. In general, there isn't a general score you should aim for, since the test will always vary in difficulty, so just try your best.
hmmmmm
on rral
My teachwr wants me to start learning comp maths where do i start with number theorum if ive never rlly done it b4
try aops alcumus
or maybe dive into certain topics
such as gcf, lcm, euclidean algorithm, prime numbers, number of factors, sum/product of factors, mod power cycles, divisibility rules
and if u get comfortable with that
move to harder topics
like modular arithmetic, diophantine equations, cool identities
Alr thanks🙏
If i make and publish a theorem stating all math competition proofs are statistically always correct can i use it in a math competition 😭
whats freshman in age
15 year old with 2x aime qual is not too bad
doing ra might be a bad idea because it takes your time away from olympiads
but keep in mind i am very sweaty and two years younger than you so my pov might be a bit cooked
Hello
hmmm
nice profile pic
arent they okder
arent they in freshman year of college whoch is typically 18 ish
oh i dont know
Prolly since he said he started real analysis as a senior
ooh modular inverses
hi friend
anyone doing amc 10
hello! sorry for the maybe offtopic question but is anyone down to read my ~10 page shortbook about modular arithmetic and give some feedback on it?
whatt 😭 i still don’t understand how someone can do all that at like 14. from what age did you even start
I fell like I should prolly js start grinding alr, so i will even have a non zero chance at jmoing
the 1988 imo p6 is pretty famous
answer is yes
XDD
í was trying to learn and prepare for national olympiad and was stuck on a very easy problem ... i calcuted (1/3) * (3/2) = as 4/6 how cooked is it
second last
was last also a simple calculation
yea root of 81
well prolly not many marks off then cuz the main idea is prolly right
not that cooked ig
ohhh
its all fine but its like me in an exam acing it and losing points for forgetting multiplication before addition
sad
but ngl these prepartation question really shows me how bad the education system of germany is
anyway happens
u got into germany mo?
its like part of it but not the actual olympiad
yea i think so
imo is tuff
idk how they connected i just show up where i need to be but the national olympiad is currently at the state stage and in like june its at natinal stage
same
what cutoff
will doing good on the waterloo contests qualify for next level?
for germany mo and tst
or must u do the comc
huh
cmo?
u can get in from comc, ahsmc, qam
ahsmc is alberta only, qam is quebec only
also cmo was thursday this week
is comc multiple choice?
or full solution
also harder or easier than pascal contest
part a, b is like aime but u can still get partials from showing work, part c full solution
harder duh
me too
if i did first 23 of pascal, how much would i theoretically get on comc
its like be top 20-10% for the first 3 rounds and then like top 5%
oh
i assume u need to do most of c to get in
not that much...
yes definitely
thats a lot of rounds
school , regional , state , national
crazy
huh school?
maybe germans kids are js smrt idk
yea you get handed it by your teacher if you sign up and then if you do good you get further
o wow
but no unless you do a lot of math in your free time you dont get in
bit different from our system
the school doesnt teach you ANYTHING for that
mhmm
schools usually teach the bare minimum
yea
u have to study urself to actually get into prestigious comps
yea
or play games
i wish math classes were longer video games r fun
i just bring my own textbooks to raigbait the teacher
hmmm
me in german classes learning pyhsics or math
o dam there's a fly in my room
o crap. im flying in your room

chat is dead again 
$\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{1}\int_{0}^{1}\frac{\arctan^{2}!\left(x\right)}{1+\left(xab\right)^{2}},dx,da,db$
Roy
i immediately thought "u=arctanx" then realized roy would never make an integral so easy
LOL
no, jmo
theres liek
deepseek v2
or alphageomtry 2
im pretty sure it still can
i dont use it tho
looks like gpt 5.4 pro is the most perfomative
RIPP
bruh pov chem
Wait… what grade are you in?
not 11 or 12
Hallo friend
hi friend
hru friend
Good wbu
me too, ty friend
bye friend
ripp, cya friend
cya friend
bye friend
hmm
LOL
Guys, I am doing a waterloo math competition at my school in Canada and I need help to practice for it
on april 1st or may 14th?? which one?
april 1st
which grade?
oh ps make sure ur writing is neat and readable cuz they can deduct if they dont understand
grade 7
grade 7??? fryer?
I already did this math competition at grade 6 since I got selected by my teachers
idk
ooooh niceeeee
