competition-math

[stuck tartan]

Bro what 😭

What dygs think usamo cutoff for usamts is

My r1+r2 is 50 rn so I might’ve had a chance if I didn’t bomb aime

[fringe prism]

low chance 400+

prolly around 350-370

[stuck tartan]

usamts has an aime cutoff

Not a total

[fringe prism]

oh

[soft vigil]

all good i got 25 on r2

[radiant shoal]

This is NOT math vro

[daring sparrow]

WHAT THE FCUK 50 ! ?!?!?

[stuck tartan]

25+25

[daring sparrow]

YEAH

i cant even get 13 😭

[stuck tartan]

did u do r3

[fringe prism]

rip

[daring sparrow]

yes, partia ly

i definitely got 5 0 0 0 0

[swift imp]

thats my score on all rounds

50000
50000
50000

[daring sparrow]

those who puzzle ☠️

[swift imp]

the puzzles r fun

and i didnt need to know math to do it

cuz i did it before i cared about comp math

and just liked pizzles

[daring sparrow]

mfs js python bash puzzles sometimes 😂

[stuck tartan]

🥀 🥀

[fringe prism]

LOL

[daring ice]

Yo was it just me but question 11 was harder than question 21

[swift imp]

yea but thats boring

the puzzzles take like 15 mins to solve max

[daring sparrow]

[late rapids]

Yo anyone here

[swift imp]

hi

[late rapids]

Hello

[swift imp]

hi

[late rapids]

U preparing for imo?

[swift imp]

no

[severe eagle]

YUMYUM

faaaaah

yea

nt is also civilised

[balmy lintel]

Not multiplechoice I ment more of a short list of problems for which you need yo write proofs like Putnam. Specifically how do you focus and use 100% of your brain for a consistent amount of time (more than 2-3 hours)

[keen epoch]

does anyone want to grp solve some isl combi?

[brazen grotto]

yea

[midnight flame]

Hence the eigenvalues of a matrix depend continuously on the entries. What does this means

[fringe prism]

bruh

[thorny tusk]

💀

[fringe prism]

hallo my friend

[thorny tusk]

hi

[fringe prism]

hi friend

[high goblet]

the eigenvalues can be thought of as a function of the coefficients of the matrix

for example, in the 2x2 case, if our matrix is
a b
c d
then the eigenvalues are the roots of x^2 - (a+d)x + ad-bc

so the eigenvalues are 1/2(a+d+sqrt(etc.))

the sentence just means that thinking of lambda1 and lambda2 as a function of a,b,c,d, it's continuous

so if i change a,b,c,d by a very small amount, the eigenvalues change by a small amount

[midnight flame]

Mm ok intresting

[late rapids]

What

[late rapids]

Huh

[thorny tusk]

yooo i got into CMO

[late rapids]

Cmo?

[thorny tusk]

canadian math olympiad

[late rapids]

Nice

[late rapids]

Ur which category

U17?

Like junior catagory?

[thorny tusk]

no

normal

yayy

[inland totem]

hmmmmmm

HOLY 3B1B UPLOADED A NEW VIDEO

[daring sparrow]

about hairy balls?

(/j)

[inland totem]

no

there's a newer one

[daring sparrow]

yea ik

[fringe prism]

LOLL

someone help me with this problem, i find it very difficult

[daring sparrow]

answer ||CEDAB --> (E)|| lol

idk how to give intutition tho

[fringe prism]

real

imagine no jmo qual bc sillying ts

[inland totem]

just imagine

[flint lantern]

I am saying B

C sits above A, D, and E; A sits above B; and D lies above E, so the stack from top to bottom is C → A → D → E → B.

[fringe prism]

XDDDD

[swift imp]

did u get this wrong

[wet hare]

d is NOT above e

[drifting meteor]

idc where the coins are placed am taking them all

[fathom summit]

just wanna know what the problem is asking for, not the answer

[fringe prism]

nah but it’d be funny

[inland totem]

so it's basically asking how many groups of 3 distinct teams were there which formed circular dominance

kinda like rock paper scissors, ig

[fringe prism]

Hi

[pallid dragon]

like if there are 4 teams they could end up doing this

there's a green triangle, also another triangle, and there's a sqaure loop

they are asking to count triangles

i think i solved it

[inland totem]

ye, just use complementary counting

[pallid dragon]

never heard of it

how did you solve it?

[fringe prism]

by using comeplentary coutin

[pallid dragon]

must be nice

[fringe prism]

mb

[torn tulip]

Sorry

It will be

E

[flint yoke]

I can prove that there exists at least 1 set altho idk how to solve the whole prob rn

[flint yoke]

If ya want, I’ll show ya if u dm:))

[simple drift]

Chat what is the best practice if I have an ARML team qualifier next Thursday and I still have a lot of theory to cover, mostly in number theory and geometry

[thorny tusk]

do problems

always the strat

[woeful seal]

Lock in

[fringe prism]

Hi

[thorny tusk]

yes great advice

[inland totem]

i touched grass 🥹

[thorny tusk]

thats

surprising

[thin pumice]

dont u have snow???

[thorny tusk]

o fr

[inland totem]

snow melt

[thorny tusk]

wat

i have a meter of snow outside my door

[inland totem]

typical canada

[thorny tusk]

lol

[woeful seal]

I don’t have any snow

There was only 1 pathetic snowfall this year that lasted half a day

[thorny tusk]

where tf r u bro

[thin pumice]

where do u live???

[thin pumice]

hey its 2 degrees outside tdy. wayyy better than like 2 weeks ago. the snowman i built over christmas break is still standing tho

[tiny eagle]

Christmas break 💀

It’s been 2 months

[inland totem]

hmmm

[full lagoon]

hey guys, if i ask a solution about rational numbers, will i get a little bit of help here? im kinda new

[fringe prism]

techinally 3

[tiny eagle]

Just ask the q

[full lagoon]

ok...so its a long question
i need time to type wait

p-root 15 q = (2root3-root5)/(4root3-3root5)

its grade 9

and i need to clarify if im right-

i am getting p as 13 and q as 2/3

could anyone please check?

[full lagoon]

yes thank you

idk why the minus isnt there tho-

in my text

thanks

[ashen badge]

No It's a positive sign, I just realized it was 6√15-4√15 , srry

[full lagoon]

THEN IM WRONG-

thanks i got my mistake

[thin pumice]

wait wanna see?

[raw crest]

Bro tell me in radians

[tiny eagle]

Ye

[tiny eagle]

Pi/90

[raw crest]

Ok good

[thorny tusk]

o wow

[fringe prism]

gg

[thorny tusk]

did it get decapitated

[fringe prism]

RIPPP prob

[thin pumice]

sadly by the wind

[blazing comet]

did anyone do the M3 modelling comp

[fringe prism]

whats that

[ruby quest]

Oh yeah I did

Would definitely say it's harder than BMO2

[inland totem]

hmm

[short fog]

can someone explain the asymositic formula of integrals

[inland totem]

#calculus

[little wraith]

morning

[swift imp]

Hi

Boutta dose

Sleep

11;50 pm

Wait what it’s 11;50

[little wraith]

oh you’re in uk right

it’s 9 am for me

[inland totem]

go sleep

[thorny tusk]

gm

[frank hornet]

gm

[inland totem]

hm

hmm

[thorny tusk]

yo ur also laa person

nicee

[little wraith]

i’m otw to skiing

[thin pumice]

wassuppp did u eat breakfast?

[thin pumice]

wowwwww luckyyyy

[inland totem]

hmmm

[little wraith]

no 😭 i had a bit of a chocolate wafer tho

[thin pumice]

ooohhh sugar sounds niceee

[inland totem]

hm

[inland totem]

https://tenor.com/view/dead-group-chat-gif-24956654

[frank hornet]

umm...rip

[thin pumice]

poor bread..

[swift imp]

Sugar rush

Morning

❌

Sugar rush before bed is the way to go

Be crazy

[inland totem]

hmm

[inland totem]

ikr

https://tenor.com/view/falling-toast-live-toast-reaction-toast-dies-gif-7238761997416289033

[fringe prism]

rip

[quartz pumice]

Yo, does anyone know what happened to the PhO discord server? 😅

[tiny eagle]

One of the mods got hacked

[inland totem]

hm

[quartz pumice]

oh shoot...

[tiny eagle]

In the phys oly server

One of the mods got hacked

And server got fried

[inland totem]

hmmm

[swift imp]

Lmao that’s crazy

[zinc ridge]

devansh

[inland totem]

wut

[thin pumice]

crazy

[fringe prism]

rip

[thorny tusk]

oof a discord partner server got cooked

[fringe prism]

#RIP

[thorny tusk]

at least it aint this server

[tiny eagle]

Charge ur phone

[fringe prism]

RREAL

[thorny tusk]

i think its an ipad

[inland totem]

ipad kids doing math is unheard of

[thorny tusk]

o

i have a friend with an ipad who does math

[inland totem]

https://tenor.com/view/ipad-kid-playing-minecraft-and-watching-youtube-shorts-ipad-kid-thingstoryx-gif-4913695962410316975

kids who act like this

[thorny tusk]

dang

[thin pumice]

it uses a lot of battery, i charged to 70% at 5pm

[thin pumice]

not rlly bro

[thin pumice]

reminds me of a kid at school who called me the second hitler 😭😭😭. he was a gamer kid who everyone thought was good at math (yea bro told me 68% is greater than 97% 😭😭😭)

[inland totem]

the fuck

[brisk mural]

whaaat 😭

[thin pumice]

which part?

[thin pumice]

he didnt have much brains and everyone hated him cuz he never washed his hands and also picks his nose in public

[inland totem]

wut

is

wrong

with

him

[thin pumice]

everything

[brisk mural]

how did he come to the conclusion 68 was greater than 97??

[brisk mural]

i mean i feel like theres a kid like this in every school, there was a guy in my class who got a 1/30 on a math test

[inland totem]

[thin pumice]

"my science and math grade average is higher than urs"

[thin pumice]

ooppp that is sad...wth???

[brisk mural]

tried to pull a miles morales ig

yk that one scene

[thin pumice]

ooppppp sighhhh

[thorny tusk]

aw hell naw

[thorny tusk]

😭

[thorny tusk]

second hitler tho...

i dont think hes smrt enough for that

[tepid galleon]

Hello, I would like to begin studying mathematics. I am in my junior year and want to win medals in math and physics competitions to have a chance at getting into an Ivy League school. How should I begin my studies (if you know about physics, please let me know as well)?

[thorny tusk]

that is the most formal help message i have ever seen

well

do past problems

depends on the competition rly

[soft vigil]

highkey

if ur doing it for the college

[thorny tusk]

get into imo!

[soft vigil]

just do something u actually like

[tepid galleon]

im not asian btw

[fringe prism]

same

[thorny tusk]

when did that matter...

[soft vigil]

same

[thorny tusk]

not same

[fringe prism]

matters a lot

[thorny tusk]

fair enough

[fringe prism]

insane buff

[thorny tusk]

ok bro.

[tepid galleon]

when we started talking about imo i guess

[thorny tusk]

lol fr

[fringe prism]

its a good thing

[thorny tusk]

anyways what medals do u want in what comps and like wha

[tepid galleon]

i wanna go to mit or any ivy

[thorny tusk]

samee mit is goated

[tepid galleon]

fr

[thorny tusk]

what does junior year mean?

[tepid galleon]

before your last year

[thorny tusk]

uh

grade 11?

[tepid galleon]

in brazil the year starts at feb and ends at dec

[thorny tusk]

o

brazil is cool

[tepid galleon]

probably

we have summer vacation

in july

2 weeks

[inland totem]

mit is goated

more goated than harvard imo

[thorny tusk]

oof grade 11 is kinda late but anythings possible

[tepid galleon]

damn ok

[thorny tusk]

u can def get into imo if u try hard enough

im kinda g7

but like

[tepid galleon]

how

g7?

[thorny tusk]

yuh

[tepid galleon]

wdym

[thorny tusk]

grade 7

anyways

try to do any math comps in brazil

[tepid galleon]

we have the national

OBM

[thorny tusk]

and any comps from the us/canada that is open to brazilians

yea do that

[tepid galleon]

i must do the obm

but im here to learn how to start

is very hard

[thorny tusk]

so

tell me wat u r learning currently

[tepid galleon]

at school?

[thorny tusk]

ooOO i searched it up yea defniitely do taht

[thorny tusk]

outside of school?

[inland totem]

ye he's a youngling

[thorny tusk]

did u ever do math outside

[inland totem]

likr 5yrs

old

[tepid galleon]

yeah

[thorny tusk]

5 yrs old in grade 11?

[tepid galleon]

is hard to explain in english

cuz i only know the math terms in my languague

[inland totem]

u

[tepid galleon]

anyways

[inland totem]

not him

[thorny tusk]

o ok

[tepid galleon]

i know what is calculus

idk calculus

number theory

[thorny tusk]

o

numb theory aint that bad

[tepid galleon]

linear algebra?

ODE

but idk any of this

[thorny tusk]

uhm ur learning ODE...?

[tepid galleon]

NO

im learning simple comb at school

[thorny tusk]

yea bro do some math compeition classes and past OBM problems

[thorny tusk]

forget about school stuff bro that shi is useless

[tepid galleon]

competition classes?

[thorny tusk]

yea how to write solutions

solution writing is very important

trust me

[tepid galleon]

i know logic

[thorny tusk]

mm

[tepid galleon]

some

i learned some logic

where can i find a study guide or something

[thorny tusk]

aops

think academy

uhm

try some brazilian math schools cuz its in ur language

[tepid galleon]

try to translate this

https://poti.impa.br

is not the obm level

but is a good material i think

obmep is before the obm

[thorny tusk]

material part 1 is too easy i think

start part 2

ig

[tepid galleon]

EASY BRO?

[thorny tusk]

is it

not?

[tepid galleon]

no

[thorny tusk]

part2 is pretty good for comps

[thorny tusk]

o

then do part 1 quicklu?

[tepid galleon]

do u know this book?

[thorny tusk]

no

[tepid galleon]

fuck

[thorny tusk]

im canadian

bro

[tepid galleon]

its a hard russian book

[thorny tusk]

o

i cant read russian yk

[tepid galleon]

ok...

lmao

[thorny tusk]

alr friend me ill help u later

yea?

i gtg

[tepid galleon]

they can help me?

[thorny tusk]

idk they have resources tho

[fringe prism]

How

Hi*

[severe flume]

Hey can yall recommend some books for IMO (International math olympiad) Ai suggests different book everytime it's very confusing which one to buy

[gloomy seal]

https://educationbestower.com/IIT JEE MATHS BOOKS/PATHFINDER FOR OLYMPIAD MATHEMATICS.pdf

[gloomy seal]

are you comfortable with digital books or do you want physical ones?

[severe flume]

I prefer physical ones

Is this one book enough? Ai suggested many books for different topics

[gloomy seal]

for example?

you can also set ChatGPT's personality as an olympiad coach

then it is soo much better

[severe flume]

These are the one gpt suggested

[gloomy seal]

what level are you in?(depends on country)

[fringe prism]

egmo by evan chan

[severe flume]

I can do 10th grade math

[gloomy seal]

I'm talking about what county and what level of IMO stage?

there are multiple exams to get there if you know

[severe flume]

India but i haven't entered in IMO Qualifiers for my country

[gloomy seal]

im also preparing for IOQM

[severe flume]

Oh nice

Which country

[gloomy seal]

bruh IOQM is only done in India

[severe flume]

Oh I forgot lol

[gloomy seal]

I'm preparing from this for the first stage

[severe flume]

Alright

Which class u in now?

[gloomy seal]

going in 11th

https://www.amazon.in/IOQM-Mathematics-Indian-Olympiad-Qualifiers/dp/9361597531?source=ps-sl-shoppingads-lpcontext&ref_=fplfs&psc=1&smid=A1WYWER0W24N8S

it was 525rs on my time

[severe flume]

Oh

You are 14 now?

[gloomy seal]

buying books from my own earned money is so much better than spending parent's money

[gloomy seal]

going to be 15 after 3 months

[severe flume]

Damn you got so much time

[gloomy seal]

wdym bro

[severe flume]

I'm going to be 17 in 7 months

I have like 3 realistic attempts

[gloomy seal]

bruh i was promoted by 3 classes

[severe flume]

How

[severe flume]

True

[gloomy seal]

i skipped LKG and UKG, and then skipped 5th due to Covid and got into a government school as a 6th grader.

😭

[severe flume]

Damn

[gloomy seal]

i like it tbh

now there is only 1 attempt

[severe flume]

I had to go through all the classes

[severe flume]

Why you are 14 now so you got like 5 attempts before you turn 20

20 is the age limit

[gloomy seal]

bruh they end up on 11th

[severe flume]

wdym

I thought age was the only restriction

[gloomy seal]

once you pass 11th you can't give IOQM

which class/grade are you in?

[severe flume]

I'm giving 10th boards right now

[gloomy seal]

me too

[gloomy seal]

oo

[severe flume]

Told you, you got 4-5 chances easily

[gloomy seal]

gg's bro I'll nail it

which state are you from?

[severe flume]

West Bengal

U?

[gloomy seal]

Delhi

[severe flume]

Oh nice is the qualifiers held at Delhi?

[gloomy seal]

of course the cut-off last year was 35

[severe flume]

How many participants were there

[gloomy seal]

more than one lakh

[severe flume]

Damn 💀

I gotta lock in

[gloomy seal]

im in a missionary school named SOSE

[severe flume]

Oh nice

I'm definitely failing boards this year

I gotta apply for NIOS

it's all good tho as NIOS actually reduces my workload

Also flexible

I don't even have to go school anymore

[gloomy seal]

My hindi exam was tuff 🥀

[severe flume]

Just give the exams and you got a certificate

[severe flume]

Real my second language is gonna cook me so hard

[gloomy seal]

prolly getting an 80 in hindi

[severe flume]

How is that bad

[gloomy seal]

in a missionary school it is considered as a fail

[severe flume]

Oh

Are missionary schools like more easy than others?

[gloomy seal]

wdym by that?

[severe flume]

I mean 80 is considered great in ICSE/CBSE

[gloomy seal]

our board is DBSE (Delhi Board of School Education)

i gave an exam to get into my school

[severe flume]

Oh

[gloomy seal]

only one in 2,000 people get selected

that was tuff

[severe flume]

Damn touch competition

Touch bro 😭

Crazy typo

[gloomy seal]

study for your exams and then exams are over, grind for IOQM

[severe flume]

Yup

[gloomy seal]

not to show off but to meet great people and increase the problem solving skills

[severe flume]

With great power comes great responsibility ahh

[amber bridge]

don't

worst choice of my life

[gloomy seal]

these marks won't matter your whole life. my real goal is to do business

[amber bridge]

was to take admission in nios

[severe flume]

Why

[severe flume]

How do you connect math to business

[gloomy seal]

i try to see patterns behind the numbers

[severe flume]

Like stocks?

[amber bridge]

first of all nios sucks in exam monitoring they use 3rd party to manage there exams that means they give out tender to conduct exam mostly gov. and private take this and they don't care at all about student , the paper checking is worst i was scoreing near 82% or 83% mf failed me in 2 subject and my final result came out 50% total

[gloomy seal]

yep

[amber bridge]

and my cbse % was much better 68% and that too i only studied for 1 week and gave the exam and that too in bihar region the one which is harder compared to other state sure not hard enough to delhi region but still

and not only i failed the exam but those mf failed everyone from the school and the one who copied me passed in the same test which i failed and vice versa

[amber bridge]

talking about nios

and now i have to give again

and funny thing those who cheated through phone also failed

[severe flume]

Damn

[amber bridge]

bro i suggest you go through cbse atleast they are fair with there exam this mf exam paper get leaked for free

before 30 mins

no checking at all, we were allowed to take phones with us in the exam hall sure if they catch us they will seize the phone and give you back after exam

[severe flume]

Is this the same in all NIOS structures or it depends

[amber bridge]

one of them caught talking with his friend in the corriodor with phone mf argued with the teacher that it is not written on the admit card and guess what he still gave the exam and only thing happened was his phone was seized for that exam

[amber bridge]

dk but ill say for west bengal or near kolkata pls don't

[severe flume]

💀

[severe flume]

I have no other option I'm failing this year and If I continue to repeat the year I probably wouldn't be able to balance school with IMO preparation plus the shame will be unbearable, if I fail again in both I might actually kill myself

I tried to sacrifice my sleep but that was worst it ruined everything

[amber bridge]

just go with cbse it's way better , you won't beleive one of our class mate wrote questions in the paper mf got 75 he has a good handwriting that was his advantage and i got 67 and that can't happen because ik what i wrote and i rechecked my question paper and it was making 95+ maybe spelling mistakes will reduce my marks but still 67 ? i got 90 in my cbse board that too i just studied for 6hr before exam and skipped most of the poems only summary and done that too i left 10 marks because idk the answers .

[amber bridge]

bro don't . Killing yourself is not the solution i tried my self and luckly i just stopped in 3rd time and ik what matteres now . Btw are you in 12th or dropper?

[amber bridge]

how much ? i sleep was sleeping for 3hr daily in my 11th and 12th .

[gloomy seal]

sleep for 8 hrs at least and study effectively for 4 hrs at least

[amber bridge]

i was addictive to games so i usally play till 3am but not anymore

[severe flume]

That's crazy my mom won't pay anything for new admission I already wasted 5k because I wanted to get in this rich ass school for my iit dream(back when I didn't knew what to do)

[gloomy seal]

sleep is important to pursue math and focus on things

[severe flume]

I'm aiming for 9hr sleep daily

[amber bridge]

same , i wasn't forced by seeing my father and his hopes i couldn't say no in 11th

[severe flume]

I'm not dropping I have plans for NIOS if I fail 10

[amber bridge]

10th ?

[severe flume]

I sleept like 4-5 hrs (bad quality+ no study structure)

[amber bridge]

https://tenor.com/view/joe-biden-presidential-debate-huh-confused-gif-9508832355999336631

bro wait what , you're rn in 10th or 12th ?

[gloomy seal]

bro told me he is giving 10th boards

[severe flume]

I'm giving 10th boards right now I don't expect to pass

[amber bridge]

what exams are completed till now ?

[severe flume]

English lang + lit and maths

[gloomy seal]

schools that run for money suck

[severe flume]

True

[amber bridge]

i won't suggest for dropping either in 10th it's not worth it

[gloomy seal]

what resources are you studying with?

[severe flume]

Self study

[amber bridge]

btw 10th is easy you just make last 5 years paper you will see the pattern and they don't mix different topics to make a whole next lvl question like they do in 12th

[gloomy seal]

im talking about YT,books, etc

the teachers suck obviously

[amber bridge]

i got 88% tho i could cross 90 but in last exam my mom get admit in hospital and that too was my maths exam

[severe flume]

I will buy some books for IMO and I watch the organic chemistry tutor for some tutorials

[amber bridge]

what's your main goal ?

[severe flume]

Damn bro hope she is doing well

[amber bridge]

which subject you like the most ?

[severe flume]

Maths I want to be a mathematician

[gloomy seal]

Physics+math

[amber bridge]

she is , actual hospital said she had a cancer tissue but it was not it's just a cyst they mis understood it with cancer tissue

[severe flume]

💀

Crazy observation

[amber bridge]

are you sure about it ?

[amber bridge]

railway hosptial op

https://media.discordapp.net/stickers/1288652882517692416.gif?size=160&name=Wumpus

[severe flume]

Government ahh

[severe flume]

Yes it took some time to figure out but I love maths

I wish we could study however we want without any degree restrictions

Life would be soo goos

Good*

[gloomy seal]

wdym by that?

[amber bridge]

nah it's better then most private hospital actually , it come under railways and Gm of railway house is near so they don't fuck around

[severe flume]

Oh niceee

[severe flume]

Like less eligibility criteria for applying or entering competitions

Or university

[amber bridge]

same with me but believe me nothing stays the same what you see is just a small portion of it not the full pic

[severe flume]

Well I will see

[amber bridge]

and if you are going with pcm do one thing try for ugee

[gloomy seal]

studying for a degree is so bad. the "mathematician" tag should be for the people who have contributed to humanity(like the builder of AI).

[amber bridge]

ugee give iiit h which is far better then iit's maybe you haven't heard of it but india top 4 research lab in ece and ai / ml is under iiit h and iisc only have 2

[severe flume]

Alright I will look into it and see it it interests me

[gloomy seal]

yep we know IIT's importance

[severe flume]

Real

[severe flume]

Crazy

[amber bridge]

also since you are trying your luck on maths iiit h is best for you since there exam parttern have deep knowledge about daily science and maths mostly maths and logical part

[gloomy seal]

you will give WBJEE right?

[amber bridge]

i said IIIT Hydrabad not IIT

[amber bridge]

yup

[gloomy seal]

(typo)ik my uncle graduated from there

[amber bridge]

you can also get intership in mipt moscow from iiit h most likely tho i can't find about it properly

[severe flume]

Nah it's too much my main goal is IMO fir now

[amber bridge]

btech + mtech ?

[gloomy seal]

he had a digital marketing course

[severe flume]

Sounds interesting

[amber bridge]

you can't give wbjee it's for 12+

[severe flume]

Yeah I thought so

[amber bridge]

mipt is mostly for maths and more russian cllg are there

[severe flume]

Are Russian colleges good?

[amber bridge]

there is not digital marketing degree in iiit h only cse , ece , cld,chd,etc mostly related to cse and ece

[amber bridge]

for maths it's gold mine

[gloomy seal]

IIITB

[severe flume]

I thought western unis are better

[amber bridge]

come to class 11 and you will find mostly russian aurthors for math and trust me those books doesn't have any theory or examples straight questions

[gloomy seal]

he is 90% blind also

[amber bridge]

you didn't mention iiitb , i was talking about iiit h

[gloomy seal]

srry mb

[amber bridge]

see it's a long way to go rn focus on 10th

[severe flume]

Alright

👍

[amber bridge]

this is my drop year and im trying hard for ugee only 50 days left for the exam ik im cooked nothing can save me still one last fight . So don't try to harm yourself it will create more problem then it solves.

you still got time

[gloomy seal]

what exam?

[severe flume]

Alright good luck for your exam I hope you get in

👍

[amber bridge]

10th doesn't matter my whole allen batch mates who topped in 10th and even in allen couldn't get into iit the highest out of 80 student only one got iit .

[amber bridge]

ugee

for dual degree

[amber bridge]

what about you ?

[gloomy seal]

I'm in 10th.

giving boards

[amber bridge]

ohk, good luck with boards

[inland totem]

hmm

[thin pumice]

what is 0^0?

[inland totem]

1

[swift imp]

0^0

,calc 0^0

[gilded halo]

Result:

1

[little wraith]

undefined?

if i write it as 0^2/0^2, we get 0/0 which is undefined

[remote phoenix]

depending on how exactly you define exponentiation it's either undefined or 1

[agile gazelle]

hey

[little wraith]

hi

[agile gazelle]

i'm looking for shortlisted IMC problems or some IMC training camps ressources.

if you have it please share

[mighty pine]

in context of series it's 1

[sturdy thicket]

Wait what

No

Its undefined

Cus like

Oh wait no nvm

Well if it’s cus it breaks the rules that 0 to the power anything is 0 and anything to power 0 is 1

So it’s undefined

[wet otter]

Hello

[remote phoenix]

if you want the constant term of a power series to work as written then you need to define 0^0 = 1

[kindred wraith]

also combinatorially, n^k is the number of ways to distribute k distinct balls into n distinct boxes

so 0^0 is the number of ways to distribute 0 balls into 0 boxes, which must be 1 way

so 0^0 in discrete contexts is almost always 1 too

[mighty pine]

i never saw it that way this is pretty interesting

[thin hinge]

its like distributing nothing into nothing so it is not necessary that there will be 1 way atleast

[kindred wraith]

in almost all cases in combinatorics, the empty set counts because it is impossibility that invalidates a count, not the lack of a positive case

we say that there are 0 ways to get from A to B if it is impossible, but 1 way to get from A to A because the destination is reachable

[mighty pine]

there's 1 way to do nothing

[granite storm]

even i thought of something like this.
consider the equation x^x=1
xlnx=ln1=0
so either x=0 or lnx=0, x is 0 or 1.
so 0^0=1. is there any mistake in the algebra or anything?

[wet hare]

x can't be 0 at the second step xlnx = 0

Cuz ln(0) is undefined

[agile gazelle]

That’s hilarious

[wet hare]

Same combinatoric reason as to why 0! = 1

There's 1 way to arrange nothing

[agile gazelle]

Well for that we have the gamma function

For 0^0 we don’t

[mighty pine]

what if you're dealing with a series

[wet hare]

You don't need the gamma function for that

[agile gazelle]

You need to project combinatorics on series

[granite storm]

oh ok

[mighty pine]

i don't really see the need for it in like power series

[agile gazelle]

Why

[mighty pine]

factorials can be recursively defined

the gamma function would be useful for fractional factorials

[agile gazelle]

They’re defined recursively for n in N*

[mighty pine]

i. e. (1/2)!

[mighty pine]

yes

i don't see why you'd need it in combinatorics

esp. here

you can just do that

[severe eagle]

faaaah density argument

[wet hare]

Huh

[severe eagle]

my teacher is teaching density argument and big O notation

he just went through china southeast MO grade 11 q7

he used basel problem to bound

[ivory ember]

orzorzorzorz

[severe eagle]

decline orz

i just told my teacher "six seven"

because the question contained 67

[smoky urchin]

...

[kindred wraith]

we do that actually in a way

think about generating functions such as the binomial theorem

or more generally, the coefficients are an indexed sequence, so wouldnt we count them by their position?

[shrewd gyro]

https://tenor.com/view/rayleigh-one-piece-crying-gif-7583256620608062087

[severe eagle]

😭

[inland totem]

in calc, it's treated as indeterminite

[remote phoenix]

you need to distinguish between "0^0" as an integer arithmetic expression and as a shorthand for limit calculus

[pliant stream]

Why tf is amc 8 honor roll 21

[viral sierra]

Although the test was quite easy, but 24 dhr is really abnormal

Especially knowing that the last 4 years, the cutoffs were 22,21,22,23, and are usually from 21-23

And in the previous years, 23 was the highest cutoff

[thorny tusk]

yay i got dhr

[zinc ridge]

i got 22

dur

i was kinda silly so i sillied

[fringe prism]

integrate 18x^x/0.1+(3+8/19x^2)/84pi

[fringe prism]

POV silly silly bent silly silly

[thorny tusk]

lol

[severe eagle]

the test answers were leaked as isual

sadly amc 8, 10, 12 lost almost all thr prestige

also why is your bio N > C > G >>> A

G > N >> A >>> C

[swift imp]

But imo and usamo still have good prestige surely

[viral sierra]

False

[severe eagle]

of course imo has good prestige

it isnt organized by maa

usamo is better because of low student population

[severe eagle]

[thorny tusk]

fr?

[severe eagle]

for amc 10 and 12

as well as amc 8

the cheaters stole my honor roll

though my failure in aime was my own fault

[thorny tusk]

ya

[severe eagle]

i carelessed 6 questions

[thorny tusk]

wait samee

[severe eagle]

i only took aime 2 because im singaporean

faaaah

[narrow swan]

Can anyone here post some really good problems?

Need it for my college work 🥀

[fringe prism]

what abt jmo):

[narrow swan]

Thnx

[empty cairn]

Yo

[swift imp]

jmo basically amo

[fringe prism]

o yea

[inland totem]

hi zelix

[inland totem]

wut

[fringe prism]

hi friend

[fringe prism]

cooked

[inland totem]

format it for me

[fringe prism]

it is

idk how

[inland totem]

hmm

[inland totem]

happens to all of us

[pine escarp]

Same😔

[fringe prism]

hi

[inland totem]

are dhr cutoffs out?

[pine escarp]

Yeah it was 24

Are any of you guys still in middle school

[inland totem]

missed by one point

well i don't wanna take amc 8 anymore

maa really needs to put in more anti-cheating protocols

[thin pumice]

saddest part of my life. WHY TF SO HIGH

[thin pumice]

FOR REALLLL

[inland totem]

prolly cuz there's so many people cheating apparently

they raise the dhr instead of dealing with the cheating issue

[ivory ember]

just make the test the night before

[inland totem]

[ivory ember]

no way to leak it if it doesn't exist

[thin pumice]

I WANT MY DHRRRR WAHHHHHH

[ivory ember]

[inland totem]

what grade

[thin pumice]

grade like score? the same as u

[inland totem]

like school grade level

[thin pumice]

wdym???

[inland totem]

[thin pumice]

whattttt

[viral sierra]

same 😭 the fact that my score is lower than last years...

I WANT MY DHR WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[inland totem]

same

[thin pumice]

i feel u bro

[thin pumice]

sameeeeee

[inland totem]

what is ur score

[viral sierra]

23 😭

[inland totem]

same

could've got perfect

[viral sierra]

Also, will u guys have another chance to take it??

[inland totem]

sillied 2

[inland totem]

i could, but i don't wanna

[thin pumice]

patrick does

[viral sierra]

sillied 17 and forgot the 333 case on 25

[thin pumice]

yea g8 its useless

[thin pumice]

its okkk brain farts happen

[viral sierra]

I just want my perf 😭 so will prolly take it next yr

[inland totem]

what grade u in rn?

[thin pumice]

which grade u in?

[viral sierra]

7

[inland totem]

same

: )

[viral sierra]

🙂

[thin pumice]

oh but u have a good score for hs application tho

[inland totem]

wbu

[viral sierra]

wbu?

[thin pumice]

grade? yk my grade

[inland totem]

8th?

[thin pumice]

ya

[inland totem]

unc

[viral sierra]

unc

[thin pumice]

heyyyyyy

MEANIE

[viral sierra]

👵

[thin pumice]

child respect ur elders

[viral sierra]

lol

[inland totem]

no

unc

[thin pumice]

disrespectful disgrace my child (jk)

[radiant jasper]

.

[severe eagle]

fr

[severe eagle]

[fringe prism]

ok

[severe eagle]

i didn't bother taking amc 8 this year

[fringe prism]

Same

[severe eagle]

im sick and cant do geometry

aaaaa

[viral sierra]

i have mc states this weekend 😭

And im fried

[blissful scarab]

can a 3 dimensional frequecy table be used to display more complex data sets ?

[viral sierra]

does anyone have any advice ?

[viral sierra]

probably. smth like this?

[inland totem]

hmmm

[inland totem]

so do combi

[inland totem]

hi zelix

[fringe prism]

hi friend

[viral sierra]

what should i last minute grind

in order to not silly and get like a 45-46

[inland totem]

ye

ofc

and if u don't make it to nationals i will be supremely disappointed

[viral sierra]

i prolly wont. i happen to be in ma 😭

so be prepared for dissapointment

[inland totem]

maryland?

[viral sierra]

no massachusetts

[viral sierra]

i wish

[inland totem]

hmmm

[severe eagle]

disgusting

[inland totem]

fair

[snow thistle]

https://artofproblemsolving.com/community/c594864h3774998

trust it

[sacred silo]

any tips for getting good at comp math?

[blissful tulip]

just grind bro

10 hours a day

start with aops

[pine escarp]

Unrelated but do you guys consider aops books outdated

[sacred silo]

how do i go abt jus not knowing how to do something?
do i jus look it up and try to understand it

maybe re do the question

[blissful tulip]

i like them for comp math

[blissful tulip]

yeah its better to understand the concepts

[blissful tulip]

btw what lvl are u for comp math

[sacred silo]

bro im ngl im a undergrad student and im prob like below amc 12 ngl

i want to get better and build up to at least usamo or aime

but idk

[blissful tulip]

undergad in college?

[sacred silo]

yes

[blissful tulip]

yea ig just do more problem and become more familiar with strategies

[viral sierra]

No

[olive hatch]

im planning to do cemc euclid at the end of the month, any ideas on how i should balance studying for that while also keeping up with school. and also tips to like NOT procrastinate for idk say 5 hours and then do nothing 🙏

[fringe prism]

RIP

[scenic kestrel]

ur cooked

i can barely make it out of arizona state

[fringe prism]

RIP

[sacred silo]

thats where i go

[grave jetty]

I need to make AIME next year, so do you guys have any tips?

[thorny tusk]

do omc mock tests

and amc 12

even if ur doing amc10

[grave jetty]

Thank you very much!! ^^

[scenic cape]

Does anyone know about bcss math contest

[spark scaffold]

Can we cancel the exponents

[smoky urchin]

hmmm

i think so

[spark scaffold]

The third power

Bc Ik same base can cancel

And set exponents to each other

[smoky urchin]

so x ^x3 would be = 36

[spark scaffold]

Yea

But that doesn’t work

[spark scaffold]

I can do is to make 36^3 into 6^6

And (x^x^3)^3

Info (x^x)^9

[radiant jasper]

,, (x^{x{^3}})^3 \neq (x^x)^9

[gilded halo]

hail

[radiant jasper]

,, (x^{x{^3}})^3 = (x^{3\cdot x{^3}})

[gilded halo]

hail

[radiant jasper]

this does lead to a way

you can write $(x^{3x{^3}})$ as $(x^3)^{x{^3}}$

[gilded halo]

hail

[radiant jasper]

and equate with 6^6

$(x^3)^{x{^3}} = 6^6$ do you notice something

[gilded halo]

hail

[zinc ridge]

wowies

its just cube root of 6

[fringe prism]

RIP

[spark scaffold]

It’s is cubic root of 6

[inner merlin]

Help

1.Demuestra que la suma de 4 numeros enteros consecutivos no puede ser un cuadrado perfecto.

2.Encuentra el menor "a" tal que a+2a+3a+4a+5a+6a+7a+8a+9a sea un numero de cifras iguales. Creo que el numero debe ser divisible por 9, por 5 y por a.

[inland totem]

hi zelix

[fringe prism]

hi

[tribal anchor]

Vale, para el primero, la suma de 4 números consecutivos es n + (n+1) + (n+2) + (n+3) = 4n+6=2(2n+3) (esto es la parte fácil) , pero lo complicado es ver por qué esto no puede ser un cuadrado perfecto

Pista 1: || El numero en cuestión es producto de otros 2 números , qué tienen de especial ? ||

Pista 2: ||Solución de la pista 1: par*impar ||

Pista 3: ||Cuál es la factorización de un cuadrado perfecto ? ||

Pista 4: || El qué seguro que no tiene 2n+3 en su factorización en factores primos? ||

Pista 5: ||Solución de pista 4: un 2 multiplicando ||

Pista 6: || Por lo tanto, es imposible que 2(2n+3) sea un cuadrado perfecto, ya que para que eso sucediese, la descomposición en factores primos de 2(2n+3) , tendría que tener cada primo elevado a una potencia par, pero hemos deducido que 2(2n+3) tiene en su descomposición un 2 elevado a 1 (impar) ||

[obtuse onyx]

I heard a rule where the server must be English only.

[tribal anchor]

As I understand from the rules, its not mandatory as long as its just a specific and quick question

[scenic kestrel]

bro i was one point from going to mathcounts state 😭

[viral sierra]

What state do you happen to be in?

[scenic kestrel]

az

[viral sierra]

what was the cutoff?

[scenic kestrel]

not sure

i got 26 though

depends on the chapter

[viral sierra]

oh. our wildcard was 38 i think

[viral sierra]

i mean wildcard?

[scenic kestrel]

idk if our state even does that

[soft vigil]

2024 az was cracked

[scenic kestrel]

yea

[soft vigil]

but that one kid on the team's brother kept chasing me the entire time

[scenic kestrel]

was he in the team

[soft vigil]

not his brother

[scenic kestrel]

oh

[orchid siren]

If I average 30 in state competition practice test, state and target

Y’all think I got any chance?

💔

[viral sierra]

depens on the state

[orchid siren]

💔🫩

Texas bro Texas

[viral sierra]

then prolly not 😭

[orchid siren]

Why do they have to be so so so smart 💔

[viral sierra]

idk

also if i score around 44-46 range on my state mocks (but the scores may drop in the real test) do you think i have a chance at nats (massachussets by the way 😭)

[orchid siren]

OH MY DAYS

44-46? 💔

[viral sierra]

would be fine but lex existts 😭

[inland totem]

hmm

mathcounts sounds fun

[daring sparrow]

i got 38 on mc chapter 💔

so norz

[inland totem]

hmmm

is that bad

[daring sparrow]

yes

38/46 and the test is ez

[inland totem]

hmmm

do better next time

[viral sierra]

did u also silly the last target?

[daring sparrow]

i sillied p7

p8 ez

i didnt read question 💀

[inland totem]

haiya

[orchid siren]

What test are similar to the state competition?

[daring sparrow]

mathcounst

[viral sierra]

its fine, i acc divided by 2 for p8 😭

[daring sparrow]

i thought 288 was wrong

at first

b/c an orzlord got 144

💀

[inland totem]

wait what was question

sounds interesting

[daring sparrow]

sum combo shi

[inland totem]

so specific

[daring sparrow]

BASHY combo shi

ok wait i think i remember problem

7 people A, B, C, D, E, F, and G are seated around a round table. G sits somewhere to lock the table in place. Given that exactly one of the pairs AB, CD, EF must be present when seating the other 6, how many such ways can we seat them?

or sum like that

idk the specific names

[inland totem]

alr

[daring sparrow]

bashy ahh cw btw

[inland totem]

alr

hmm

[inland totem]

i figured it out

not that hard tbh

js bashy like u said

[daring sparrow]

you got 288 right

[severe eagle]

average szm rating

19% 7 star 😭

[zinc ridge]

yeah i got 288

i was like the only one in my chapter who got that

3 * 2 * (8+8+16+8+8) amirite

[fringe prism]

Hi

[daring sparrow]

i factored the 8 out of ts but yeah

,ti

[gilded halo]

The current time for nadat12 is 07:23 AM (PST) on Fri, 06/03/2026.

[inner merlin]

Ufff mil graciassss

[inner merlin]

No seas egoista

[inland totem]

ooh chinese

[inland totem]

hmm

[zinc ridge]

thats risky!

[inland totem]

,ti

[gilded halo]

You haven't set your timezone! Set it using the interactive timezone picker with ,ti --set.

[inland totem]

hmm

[inland totem]

ye

[zinc ridge]

do you take aops intermediate counting and probability

perchance

[daring sparrow]

hmm maybe

(yes)

[inland totem]

they should make a difficult intermediate and counting aops book

i'd buy it

[daring sparrow]

generating function

graph theory

[inland totem]

that's already in vol 2

[daring sparrow]

sus theory

[inland totem]

i think that's described too