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well still got another year before the next amc 10
oh yeah
dude the saddest part abt my b score was that I got question 3 and 4 wrong ๐
thats 12 points right there just gone bc I flunked the easiest questions on the test
ts not the method
real
๐ญ is that not a good score
if I got those two then I would have a 100.5
Its not aime bro ๐
it's good but aime is usually around 100
๐ฅ js be glad you didnt bomb it and get like 42 points
last year aime cutoff for b was insane at 111 or smth
bro ๐
you get 37.5 points without answering any questions
nvm 105
how ya get 42 ๐ฅ
how likely is 136.5 gonna be dhr for amc 12b
its aight bro
thats why we practice
yea
i lowk spent the whole year slacking on comp math so its deserved
aw man
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How do you imagine anyone will be able to answer that better than you can yourself by looking up historical data?
fair enough
wait you guys are sophomores right
ye
how did yall do on the amc freshman year
Not good :/
Don't advertise in this server at all, please.
This year, I got a 150. This is my second year
what score did you get
daamn
Sorry, I didn't know
orz
60 ๐ฅ
ye ts is sad
yep
๐ญ wait i have hope
I didnt improve that much
im still a freshman rn i got one more year to take the 10a and b
couldve gotten 100.5 if I didnt miss 2 of the easiest questions on the test ๐ฅ
where do y'all go to school?
yea
antarctica
use it wisley
real
harvard trust
nah MIT trust
How did you study for amc?
i mean you got a 130s
thats insane
dont you just practice a lot
uhhh lowk this year i was slacking
lol
i think i just did a lot of practice and textbooks
8th grade was my peak ๐ญ
real
uh i did woot but i kinda got smoked and didnt rlly learn stuff
holon what math are you guys taking
bro what ๐
WAIT WAIT WAIT
Olympaid stuf??????
yeah it was not a good idea
that course costs 800 bucks too bro
yea man
it says for ppl who score 7-9 on an aime bro ๐ญ
i got 10 in 8th so i thought i could do it but utrns out im really bad at proofs
and that aime was a lot easier than the others
wait u got 10 questions on an AIME??????????
bro whaaaaattttttt
what did u get on the amc???
2023 aime is a lot easier than like 2024 or 2019 in my opinion
no ;-;
bro
139.5
you were sooo close tho
I think let me check
DAMN
it's okay tho ill lock in this year trust
orz
Ahhh I'm not that good at showing my work ๐
Hey guys, I got a 150 on AMC 10
you dont need to show work
it's just u put a number from 0-999
Oh they don't judge work?
ye you don't
Oh ok phew
no
also wokr
no u need it for USAMO
oh ok
Woah
proofs is basiclaly work
yea
Oh I remember there was a proof comp where you had a whole month
what test did you take?
Amc 10a
one of my friends did usajmo in 8th and just wrote "the proof is left as an exercise to the reader" for one question
i mean 9th
not 8th
USAJMO in 9th be crazy tho
yea
wait holon what math are you guys taking ๐ญ
Geometry at school
yea
they wouldnt let me skip to calc so math 3 ๐ฅ
damn what
๐ญ they let me skip from math 2 to calc 1
like once i completed math 2
hey youre the one doing well in amcs ๐ญ
and i think he got 35/42
no cuz hes a little boy
im not doing well bro
also i dont think hes old enough to like go there on his own im not sure
you were js saying you almost got a 100
OHHHH
thats basically good
thats not that good compared to irrational li or carrots ๐ฅ
fair
yea
but its better than my fricking 42 or wtv on the 10b ๐ฅ
This year was relatively good for me cause algebra and stuff
I failed the analytical geo questions
Hey man its fine
๐ญ
i was selling the 10a so bad i was like 1^3=0
just grind and we'll get there
yea lmao i was tweaking during the test or smth
๐ญ
real I forgot distance thingy
๐
I suck at algebra
same
bro I do everything but algebra
yes ๐
The other stuff is funn
like mods and geo and combinatorics
thos are fun
I quite like combinatorics
yea its fun sometimes
but it's not fun when you start to add like summations and mods to it ๐ฅ
Omg
summations + sigma
scare me so bad for some odd reason
I think summations and series by itself are ok but like when you start to add different stuff to it it gets weird
also btw did you draw this lol
no i screenshotted this off of youtube
aaaaa
lol
what math are you in? (just curious)
calc bc
theres so much arithmetic it's killing me
you think its easy?
nah
oh ๐
i think calc aint too bad
at least what I'm doing isn't
calc is so much effort
fr
nah
when you start to get into USAMO and stuff its EVERYTHING but calc lol
nothing in competitive math requires calc
but sometimes it's easier to just cheese it with calc
it's like if u coordinate bash a geometry problem
I've never had to use calc to solve a comp problem bf
@turbid cobalt @vague jetty @stable pewter Just wanna say thanks for talking math w me :))
i really appreciate it
IrrationalLi, what grade r u in?
in my school like lowkey noone likes math and it is so fucking sad
Nah it's fine
I've never been good at math before
Your welcome
wdym??? ๐ญ
well math isnt usually considered
"fun"
Like from 4th to 7th grade I was really bad at math
139 is INSANE
Math is so fun
really?
I got 11 on amc 8 ๐
๐
Idk 8th grade's my year ig
did you take mathcounts?
No
oh
I think I did mathiscool but
omg mathcounts was so fun
i never heard of it afterwards
oh aight
bro they put super smash bros and tetris on the countdown screens
you did mathcounts too????
FR???
yeah
oh it was at nats
I have a sad story to tell
they had like this 80 player foosball table
YOU WHENT TOO NATS?????
WHATT?????
yeah my rank was pretty bad tho
ITS STILL NATS
nats is crazy
top 4 in ur state dude
thats insane
bro
i didnt even go to state
although it was sorta not my fault I couldn't
I got 6th place and 12 people whent to state and I wasn't one of them so uhhhh
go figure
ye
how did ur region decide to send ppl
teams ๐
like my place sent top 3 teams and top 2 individual i think
thats insanely good dude
school teams are not it
IKR???
bro i was the only one that was good
like the second best in my team got 22nd place
partly bc she cheated off me
but still
bro there was like 100+ kids
and like 10 procters
and they didn't really procter
they just be standing on the side
doing nothing
wait hwat state
ny
fr?
yeah
I was born there
then moved 4 times
and ended up here :/
wait you got 2nd place in state in NY?
thats insane
NY is full of sweaty asians
no it's top 4
California, then Texas, then Mass, then maybe NY
dude texas has like such a long streak of 1st place nationally
thats still good lol
this year ny did pretty good tho 2nd place
one of them stayed up playing brawl stars so he was absolutely cooked for countdown
ik him lol
oh ๐
he was on the team when i did it as well
LOL
and his brother told me
cuz obv u do not want to admit to doing bad cuz u were playing brawl stars out of all games at 12am
No, it's all math now
math is the best game
fr
dude I made the stupidest mistake in my regionals countdown
it was the tiebreaker game for the round
and a easy question popped up
and I got it
and
I answered my question in common fraction form by instinct instead of a mixed number
:/
countdown is so stressful
If I got that question right I wouldve gone to beat the person who got 1st
1st
NOICE
for ny countdown doesnt rlly matter
why?
oh yeah they got the wrong person for 1st place individual so i didnt have to go against them
math is the best supercell game
i think it's cuz usually we never do good in nationals but it might change soon
ohh aight
Lol
i mean if the 1st place person got beat by a person you beat then technically you wouldve beat them?
nah he was rlly good
hes the 35/42 usajmo kid i was talking about
what
oh yw ig?
but like they didnt call him up to top 12 cuz they got the wrong person so there was this random kid in "1st place" and he got smoked
Oh ๐
LMAO
NAH
yea you only ever see calc in comp math for a calc specific comp
they did bro dirty
like the bmt calc focus test
very epic
now i gotta catch up to him
yk we all go to diff schools right
fr
do not do
bmt ๐
๐ฅ
did u go?
i couldnt even get top 50% on the general
yea i got cooked
top 10 being 23 is insane
did you?
defo all smurfs
damn
๐ญ wow
yall took the BMT?
well its not really something u take
oh?
oh fair
ahh
you did alg and discrete right
you have to go to berkely to take the math test??
yep
yeah
theres online i think
yup
online is cooked
why
for placement reasons
nice
but if u js enjoy the tests its chill
are you going to it next year?
i did bmt online in 9th and got absolutely diddled
everyone from china absoltuely destroys the competition ๐
never doing bmt ever again
why not???
ptsd
lol
all the other people on my team did like alg/geo but everyone got diddled by geo apparently
dude the power round was terrible
no wait power round was peak
idk if i can discuss it rn tho ๐ญ
me when alr have existing knowledge ๐ฅ
knot theory is not niche enough for a power round topic
Fr theyโre forced to be good at everything, you could say that about all of Asia though imo
i should try smt again
damn
i feel like a good amount of people would alr have prior knowledge about the power topic
i should lowk do calc and alg next year
do you guys hafta pay for the BMT and stuff?
yeah
yea its only 15 bucks tho
might be the strat
wut grade r u in?
9th
oh alr
Stanford??
wbu
yeah got absolutely smoked on that too
smt problems this year were absoltuely horrid
Oh aight
all of htese subject tests js have like
do you mean smoked like in a good or bad way??
ridiculous ass difficulty jumps after like p7/p8
terrible
wait @stuck tartan what grade are you in
Oh you got smoked :/
11
damn
i was in 8th tho so i think i could do better now
๐ญ
how were the dinosaurs unc ๐ฅ
what?
oh aight aight
wait did you take the amc 12 this year
damn
acc no
what score do you think you got
130 is not bad
lmao i didnt get this one either i had no clue
130 be insane
i put 3 or smthg i think
cuz liked
acc idk what i was doing
i got that under WLOG 6 squares are fixed
but i didn't realize there were 4 configs for the last row
They had this question on the 10 too
burnside lemma?
๐
burnside lwk overkill
js like
use brain
WLOG center square is some color
i did red
and then i assumed adjacent color was blue
ohhhh i shouldve done that
cuz idk why i started with a corner and i was like im not counting ts
did u do p25
me neither
i was able to get 2 equation 2 variable but i messed up my calculation
so i left it blank
equation?
oh rip
did u like construct an equilateral triangle
and then the origin
i tried to use law of cosines with like
has distances1,2,3 from the vertices of the equilateral traingle
also this is like
identical to 2012 aime 1 p13
i remembered the config so i like
did this when i got stuck on p5
i did 2 equations using law of cosines but i somehow messed up
pardon my amazing fabulous diagram
the BEST diagram they say
chrome canvas + touchpad
๐ญ wow bro ts is amazing
wait ima do it rn
i hate how when i search up 2025 amc 10 it doesnt bring up the aops website
Just save it
Or more accurately bookmark
holy im dumb how did i not think of that
Your welcome
tanks
curious question: are there any other math comps (other than the amc) in the usa?
theres a few
like SMT BMT duke math meet etc
Probably
Just not as big nor prominent
yea
Yesterday was a Math Comp at my school and it was at FGCU, not AMC
oh cool thanks for the info
hmmt
pumac
cmimc
yea its so dumb
tons of others
Bowling
"its clear to see that ptolemy hold true from this drawing"
Ok patrick
is ts 12b 25
perchance
im about to submit my 20th unit
just recently ๐
otis?
yuh
You got into USAMO?
94.5/105
2023 cuts โค๏ธ
my god fr i peaked in 5th and 8th ๐ญ
but 8th i fell off after november so
the huge jump all the way to 230s cut..
i barely made AIME my last year of HS and then didnt try at all lmao
my god fr i was shocked
the year before you only needed a 16
did anyone here do MMATHS this weekend lmao
no
i was responsible for hosting one of the sites
noo like 2022 amc cycle
yeah
not like the cuts that came out in 2023
yes
EWWWW Q21.
what
Amc 10 had a lot fo calculation
12a was not easier than 10a
wdym
i swear i posted a pic of it here
yeah it was js dumb bash
Coordinate bash is interesting but frustratin
idk ๐
i heard from abt everyone that 12b was easier though
alr ill look at it tmrw im like dumb rn
bc it was js dumb bash ๐ญ
its two lines bro
Ptolemy moment
Or van schooten if ur quirky
wtf is van schooten
idk kit's kinda satisfying
i do not understand ts
if it is then good for u ๐ญ
coord bash is just worse complex bash which is worse bary bash which is just bad geo
synthetic is just better than all
bro like deadass i was literally using the correct method until i saw my sum incorrectly like my handwriting is terrible bro i sonetimes dont understand it
Yall who wanna do maths
yes also kronii
hm?
i love synthetic unless i cant think of what to do
then i despise it
So apparently 12B was THAT easy
friend of mine who got 67.5 last year got 132 on 12B and 105 on 12A
67676767
It really was that easy icl
hello
bro how
does that mean next year is gonna be hard??
no
last year was easier ts year even easier
according to this trend amcs literally gonna be amc8 next year
what the fuck are they doing
everything hard abt this year is bash
so youre telling me nothing is bash
true
lwk both from last year were still easier than this year's though
LMFAO
dont worry bro most adavanced maths also struggle with basic arithmetic
He probably improved a lot
even if he did +27 from a to b is a pretty large difference
thats 4-7 more questions right ๐ฅ
Yeah he improved but not that much
like not enough to warrant such a big improvement
Hello everyone, is there anyone who participated in the EMC
I am aiming to take it next month and I want to hear from someone with actual experience
Yall
I'm gonna assume there are ppl here who participated in olympiads, etc
Are there any tips/areas/domains which yall think should be worked on more as they are more important than others?
what are cutoff predictions for 12b?
well no that could js be unlucky
but overall 12a was generally considered harder
As someone who is about to take the bmo1 tomorrow and does not know much about non British maths Olympiads, the main topics are geometry, algebra, number theory and combinatorics, of those i would say geometry is the best one to prepare for as the questions are most similar from year to year, my main advice would be to be very aware that cyclic quadrilaterals can appear anywhere so be on your guard
Alr, thanks
good luck for bmo1!
y am I even in this discord
because this is where cool ppl hang out
yessir
orzmit otiser
what will the cutoffs be in this years 10a?
buh
96
b felt a lot harder than a
thx
what about 12b
vro the cheating this year has been crazy
inconspicous reddit post selling amc answers for 10a right before the 10a started for 50 dollars:
a true entrepreneur right there
trying to decipher who you are rn
vro it was even on yt ๐
on the 14th i went on yt to search up solutions and literally found this
wait lemme go grab
literally second short that pops up
5k views
buh
they better not be >91.5
what the hell
did you only add the pull ups 27 wrong problems in?
anyone doing bmo1 later?
Selfadmit
good luck!
btw there is an embargo on bmo1 discussions until i think friday afternoon
What are the odds amc12a cutoff will be under 80?
I did it today
0
Last year was way harder
Yeah I couldnโt do pull-ups before that ๐ญ
@ruby quest hey how was bmo1!
๐คซ
Ofc it's reddit
๐ฅ
this is plain dumb. The ppl who bought it are dumb cuz if you get caught ur ruined. And it wasnt THAT hard. Dude like even my 8th classmates got pretty good first try. This is plain dumb.
๐ ๐
hey guys did anyone here do seamo this yearr
you're technically not really meant to discuss bmo1 yet
i think friday 9am is when embargo finishes
there's more uk olympiad ppl in the MODS discord server linked in this channel description if u wanna discuss tmr
but uhhh sorry mb
gives information about difficulty
like if ppl said "problem X was really hard" that gives information to ppl doing the paper
ts does not give any advantage
you can do it via DMs, no one will check those lol
Please respect embargos set by contest organizers,
but there are still technically ppl doing bmo1 and especially since this is an international server, yeah ^
ah unfortunate, better luck next year! (if ur still eligible)
dont argue and respect the rules of the competition pls
yo it was pretty good icl
i did 1 2 4 and 6
hopefully bmo2 this time
js learnt eulers line rule thing for imo
its 2:1 in case u didnt know
me too twin
WE are getting bmo 2 next year
how close were u to the cutoff btw?

yeah that was my reaction too
what school do u go to btw?
wow!
your achievement is quite unfathomable
you must be quite a dedicated scholar
i messed up q2 bmo ๐
i dont know how much im allowed to talk before friday but it was a really simple calculation error

you're not really meant to say anything
like also including this
but i am happy to share my thoughts tmr
technically it might give ppl information about problem difficulty
like if i said "i did 1 3 4 5 6" or smth like that then ppl might think "oh ok P2 is hard, i won't attempt that" or smth along those lines
anyway i agree it's not revealing much and also tbh pretty much everyone has done it now
but yeah ur not really meant to discuss anything until fri 9am iirc
IMO???
but yeah well done! i think ppl found this year hard in general so that's almost certainly bmo2
what was ur solution to p6?
hmm yeah i was wondering that asw
its a lot to write but the solutions are released online arent they
what was ur general idea?
told u in dms cuz its a lot and i dont wanna blab on here
u didnt tho?
well solution videos are out
marker's report isn't yet
how did it go for you?
i did it like a month ago
i'm on the problem selection committee, i'm not a student lol
oh lmao
||look at the position of the frogs mod 4, then do stuff with that||
lowk i didnt get to try that question too much
im not getting bmo2 but do u have ideas what mark distinction is roughly gonna be this year?
which one's distinction again?
the award below bronze
ngl i never paid attention to distinction lol so i don't know
but ppl did seem to find this year's paper significantly more difficult than in previous years (whoops mb)
so probably lower than normal
@high goblet about the quote on your bio
27 isnโt a prime?
I think you meant 29 and 31
well yep 27 isn't prime
terence tao called it one tho
Oh
I think Terence Tao isnโt the worlds smartest mathematician if he called 27 a prime :))))
No if Terence tao calls 27 prime it is a prime and everyone else if wrong
I'm not sure it makes sense to compare strictly for world's smartest, but I think there's broad agreement that Tao is certainly one of the few dozen most brilliant mathematicians alive.
The point of the quote is that if even he can make a silly mistake once in a while, the rest of us should not be fatally discouraged by making mistakes too.
In a similar vein, a widely circulated anecdote says that Alexander Grothendieck, widely regarded as the most brilliant and influential mathematician of the late 20th century, once offered 57 as an example of a prime, in the heat of the moment.
Has anyone done the senior kangaroo?
terence tao is never wrong
"From a young age, I knew everyone was wrong and I was right"
i was born at a young age
i do not like freshman bro
Yo i do the same thing
We like the same person
Guys, I had a quick question: To advance to MOP, do they ever pick people from USAJMO, or is it always from USAMO?
they pick both
unfortunately i will take all the slots
oh no!
Damn your that chunky?
yeah im 5'5 650 pounds
When you go down a hill do you walk down or roll down?
i dont go up on hills
my doctor said i cant
since its too hard to breathe
Lolololol
i think its like 12 ish jmo quals
Any fast calculation tips
hi
Ong
Just curious, did anybody here do ther Berkely Math Competition in person on Nov 2.?
If so, i just wanted to ask a few questions abt how it went cause im doing it next year,so just
dm me pls
I think @stable pewter did it
You could ask him
what
wasnt the bmt november 8?
or are you talking about a diff one
@celest frigate
does anyone know what i should aim for on the aime to try to qualify for jmo if i got 121.5 on the amc 10 b 2025 fall
i think im lwk cooked
Depends
The is year gonna be diff than the past years
Aime questions gonna be worth 20 points instead of ten
I would say you should get around 12 questions to guarantee usamo with your score
What is the smallest number that can be obtained by dividing a three-digit number with digits other than zero by the sum of its digits?
The answer is 21/2
i ask gemini but he say 49/3
maybe open a help channel here #help-25
no way, me too
That is NOT guarantee usamo vro
120 + 120 would be 240
It prob wouldnโt guarantee
But itโs p likely youโll get in
bro MIGHT be a lil outdated ๐ญ
Yea I just checked and the last two years was like 240-250 :/
Before that tho it was 230s and 220s
I was bing chilling learning integrals and I saw Integration Bee finals from 2023 and this problem seemed doable but now both me and my friend are stuck thinking we know sth
Real
wait ts might be doable
๐ญ โ๏ธnvm i didnt see that square
no dude 12 questions = 240 points so its like 120+240=360 ish
I meant past years
Iโm basing it off how they done it in pass years
Maybe uhh
you could uhhhhhh
Substitute some things?
Half angle / double angle formulas?
Like who comes up with these integrals?
best you can get to is (2cos10x-1)/(2cos2x-1)
obviously squared
Well
You know
There's a formula that evaluates integrals?
I'm sure that'll have an answer for ya
yea bro js graph the function and use riemann sums ๐ญ
cue that one biology paper where they discover how to integrate
reinventing the wheel ahh paper ๐ญ
peak pfp
pebble
And I feel like there's much mroe you can do from here
But I'm wondering if this is really what they had to do, because it's kind of a lot of simplification
Like, there's gotta be a simpler solution or trick
pebble
$\int^\pi_0 \left(\frac{1-4\sin^{2}\left(5x\right)}{1-4\sin^{2}\left(x\right)}\right)^{2}dx$
pebble
Could anyone here be so kind as to dm me some olympiad notes? For any topic, of any level.
You havenโt learned this in class yet 
please send the link, i m new to discord
ive got it down here as well, what to do next?
You can reduce the expression in brackets to
(2cos(10x)-1)/(2cos(2x)-1)
= 2cos(8x) + 2cos(6x)-2cos(2x) - 1.
So, if you square it and use the product of cosines formula you get some constant plus a huge sum of cos(kx) in which every term gives 0 when integrating over [0;pi]. Thus, we are left with the constant which is easy to find without full squaring. It just equals 2+2+2+1=7 since 4cos(t)^2=2+2cos(2t).
is this an olympiad problem
oh this one is nice
it's my homework and i'm STRUGGLINGGGG
it looks like an olympiad problem
so the fact that there's osmeone out ther esolving this in 30 seconds is a bit
basically
demotivating
you know x>y right
so 1/x<1/y
so thus
$\frac{1}{y}<\frac{1}{60}<\frac{1}{y}+\frac{1}{y}=\frac{2}{y}$
real 
and thus you can bound y
oh that was not where i went at allll
i did some stuff till i got (x-60)(y-60)=3600
this method is better if there are more variables though
x-60 and y-60 must multiply to 3600 so just list out the pairs that multiply
you can factorize 3600
there has to be some perms and combs magic i can use here
no need
there's NO WAY i need to do this manually
in fact the total # of pairs (x, y) is just number of factors of 3600 which is like
45
watt ๐
cause like
given x-60 is a factor of 3600
then y-60=3600/(x-60)
giving a pair (x, y)
oh wow i did NOT think of it like that
omg wtf
maybe i just suck so taht seems rlly impressive to me
lmao
thank u!
i don't really get how that points me to the answer and also what a pair (x,y) even means
a pair (x, y) is a solution
so oyu have (x-60)*(y-60)=3600
and you know that both (x-60) and (y-60) are integers
so as they multiply to 3600
you can set x-60 to be any factor of 3600 and y-60 will just be the opposite factor
like x-60=1 and y-60=3600 or x-60=6 and y-60=600
oh WOW what??
that is so cool
wait that is SO COOL
Oh my god
so then
there are 45 factors of 3600
setting x-60 = to one factor means y - 60 is another
u can do this for 45 factors
so are there
90 solutions?
no wait
wait yes?
there are 90 different solutions
i think
Why 90
i worked on it for a while and got 22
it was actually 45 total for both x-60 and y-60
since x > y, that means u need to omit the obvious ( 1 and 3600)
so now 44
and then div 2
You omit the x=y
No its fit for amc
Olympiad is worse
But also tends to have less computation
And more of proving
im leaving this server it pmo
anyone know what a 15/25 on the amc 8 would roughly translate to for amc 10
https://artofproblemsolving.com/wiki/index.php/AoPS_Wiki:Competition_ratings#AMC_8
problems 1 to 10: same difficulty
problems 11 to 20: harder
problems 21 to 25: exponentially harder
ooh thanku
I'd say you could still get 12/25 on amc10

